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The American Dream is Now a Coin Flip: Here's Why and What We Can Do

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "The American Dream is Now a Coin Flip: Here's Why and What We Can Do", an episode of 3 Takeaways published February 7, 2026 (32 min, about 5,661 words). It mentions 9 people, works and ideas, including Raj Chetty, Opportunity Insights, Hope 6, Harvard, MIT.

What this episode is about

The discussion centers on the declining accessibility of the American Dream, revealing that children born in the 1980s and 1990s have only a 50% chance of achieving greater economic success than their parents, a significant drop from previous decades. This decline is attributed to both slower economic growth and a shift in how income growth is distributed, resulting in higher inequality and fewer opportunities for upward mobility, particularly for lower-income families.

Key takeaways

  • The American Dream is becoming a coin flip: 50% chance kids out-earn their parents today.
  • In the '50s, rising tides lifted all boats; now, only yachts are getting the growth waves.
  • Low-income kids face a better chance at success in rural Midwest than in anywhere else globally.
  • Having high-income friends is more predictive of success than simply having cash—it's not just about money!
  • Education quality, community integration, and social capital are the true currencies of upward mobility.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Opportunity Insights, Harvard, Raj Chetty, Salt Lake City
  2. – 10:00: Harvard
  3. – 15:00: Hope 6, Cababriti Green
  4. – 25:00: Opportunity Insights
  5. – 31:40: Opportunity Insights

Notable quotes from "The American Dream is Now a Coin Flip: Here's Why and What We Can Do"

  • Today I am really glad to be joined by Raj Cheddy. Raj is a Harvard professor who studies opportunity in America. He and his team at Opportunity Insights follow people's lives over time to see what truly helps kids get ahead. Their.
    about Raj Chetty · at
  • Children's chances of rising up out of poverty look better than anywhere else in the world. For instance, much of the rural Midwest or a city like Salt Lake City, your odds of…
    about Salt Lake City · at
  • Think of well-known places like Harvard or Stanford or Colombia MIT. When we look at kids in these data, they're doing extremely well afterward. But unfortunately, it turns out that very.
    about MIT · at
  • Your new study Raj looks at a huge realworld experiment in housing. And before we get to the results, what was hope six trying to do?
    about Hope 6 · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Raj Chetty — Person · Main guest · 1 mention · first at
    Primary interview subject explaining his research on economic opportunity, neighborhood effects, and social capital, including findings from the HOPE VI housing revitalization study and tools like the Opportunity Atlas.

Companies & orgs

  • Opportunity Insights — Company · Business focus · 4 mentions · first at
    Research group at Harvard studying economic opportunity, mentioned as the organization conducting the studies discussed in the podcast.
    And his team at Opportunity Insights follow people's lives over time to see what truly helps kids get ahead. Their findings are being used by more than 200 cities in over 40…
  • Harvard — Company · Affiliation · 3 mentions · first at
    University where Raj Cheddy is a professor and where Opportunity Insights is based.
    Today I am really glad to be joined by Raj Cheddy. Raj is a Harvard professor who studies opportunity in America. He and his team at Opportunity Insights follow people's lives over time to see what truly helps kids get ahead. Their.
  • MIT — Company · Affiliation · 2 mentions
    Mentioned as one of the prestigious institutions where students tend to do well after graduation, highlighting issues of economic segregation in education.

Places & events

  • Hope 6 — Event · Case study · 1 mention · first at
    A major housing program studied by Raj Cheddy and his team, showing the impact of neighborhood revitalization on economic mobility.
  • Salt Lake City — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as a city where children's chances of rising out of poverty are better than in many other places, including international comparisons.
  • Cababriti Green — Place · Case study · 1 mention · first at
    A high-poverty public housing project in Chicago mentioned as an example of the type of neighborhood targeted by the Hope 6 program.
    That we've been talking about in America, high poverty public housing projects. There are famous examples that listeners may have heard of like Cababriti Green and Chicago or…
  • Denmark — Place · Comparison · 1 mention · first at
    Used as a comparison point for economic mobility, showing that some parts of the U.S. offer better opportunities.
    Children's chances of rising up out of poverty look better than anywhere else in the world. For instance, much of the rural Midwest or a city like Salt Lake City, your odds of…
  • Sweden — Place · Comparison · 1 mention · first at
    Used as a comparison point for economic mobility, similar to Denmark.
    Children's chances of rising up out of poverty look better than anywhere else in the world. For instance, much of the rural Midwest or a city like Salt Lake City, your odds of…

Full transcript with timestamps

Today I am really glad to be joined by Raj Cheddy. Raj is a Harvard professor who studies opportunity in America. He and his team at Opportunity Insights follow people's lives over time to see what truly helps kids get ahead. Their findings are being used by more than 200 cities in over 40 states to improve outcomes for lowerincome families and children. He's just completed a major new study on what it really takes to create high opportunity neighborhoods. Raj, thanks so much for joining Three Takeaways today.

Thanks for having me, Lynn. It is my pleasure. Let's start big. When people talk about the American dream today, what's actually happening to economic opportunity in America?

The way I think about the American dream is I think a cornerstone aspiration of our country that through hard work any child should have the chance to move up in the income distribution relative to their parents. And so if we ask in the data, how likely is that to actually happen in practice? Turns out that for kids born in the middle of the last century, say back in 1940 or 1950, more than 90% of those kids went on to earn more than their parents did. But if you look at what has happened over time, you see that there's been a dramatic fading of the American dream such that for children born in the 1980s or 1990s who are becoming adults now and entering the labor market, it's basically become a 50/50 shot, a coin flip as to whether you're going to do better than your parents. So in that sense, Lynn, the American dream is less accessible than it used to be in the past.

And is part of that because economic growth in the 40s and 50s was so much more rapid than economic growth today?

So part of the reason for the fading of the American dream is indeed a decline in economic growth. About onethird of it is caused by lower growth rates in recent years. But actually twothirds of it is caused by a different phenomenon, a change in how that growth is distributed. In the 40s and 50s, everyone kind of got ahead together. Everyone's incomes went up. In more recent years, growth has been skewed primarily to people at the very top of the income distribution. And so the growth that we have is benefiting a large part of the population, much less.

And wages are stagnating for people at the bottom of the income distribution. And I think that underlies a lot of the frustration that people around the US feel that this is no longer a country where it's easy to get ahead.

To be clear, you're talking about the American dream and opportunity from work as opposed to income from government payments and subsidies.

That's correct. Here we're talking about how much you are earning and whether that's more or less than what your parents earn, separate from what's happening with government subsidies. Although of course government subsidies may affect how well children end up doing. They may affect how much people choose to work and so on.

For families starting at the bottom, kids born into the lowest income households, how difficult is it for them to actually move up?

So it turns out that the answer to that question, Len, actually varies greatly across different parts of America for different subgroups. In general, we think of the US as the land of opportunity, but actually, if you're born to a low-income family in the US, on average, your odds of rising up look lower than they do in other developed countries, like in Scandinavia, for example, or Canada. But there are certain parts of America where children's chances of rising up out of poverty look better than anywhere else in the world. For instance, much of the rural Midwest or a city like Salt Lake City, your odds of rising to the middle class or beyond if you're born to a low-income family there are better than in Denmark, better than Sweden, better than any place in the world. Yet, there are other places in America like much of the Southeast, cities like Cleveland, Detroit, Atlanta, where unfortunately if

you're born into poverty, you are likely to remain trapped in poverty in the next generation at present. That is really sobering. When you step back and look across decades of data, what actually helps people move up? What matters most?

We've been studying exactly that question. The way I think about it is trying to understand the science of economic opportunity using large-scale data in our research group here at Harvard, Opportunity Insights. And there are of course many different things that matter, but let me highlight a few that seem central. The first is the quality of education someone gets. As you might expect intuitively, having access to highquality K through2 education, access to effective higher education is extremely important. Second, segregation plays a really big role. So when you live in a more integrated community where you're more exposed to highincome people, more connected to better jobs and so on, you see better outcomes for kids. And third, and maybe most importantly, which builds on that idea of living in an integrated community, we find that social capital, who you interact with, in particular, how many

highincome friends you have as you're growing up, is a very strong predictor of upward mobility. Kids who grow up around higher income peers, who have more high-income friends, who may serve as role models, connect them to internships, job opportunities, these kids tend to be much more likely to rise up in the income distribution. I will come back and ask you about each of those. But a lot of people think poverty is mainly about money. What do they get wrong? So I think when we think about poverty often the simple solution is well if someone's poor why don't we just give them money in the form of a transfer. And mechanically of course that is the most direct way to address the problem. But I think that solution ultimately while it's well intended and has a role falls short as a long-term approach for a couple of reasons. The first and simplest is that it's not really friscally sustainable. So the way

I think about this is the old adage that if you give a person a fish, you feed them for a day. If you teach a person to fish, you feed them for a lifetime. And basically the reason we focus on opportunity and earnings and economic mobility is the logic of teaching people how to fish. If you give people that education and that social capital, the resources to succeed themselves, then you've provided for them for years to come. And not only that, be then provide to society in the form of higher tax revenues, new discoveries, new businesses that help all of us. If you simply give people resources, of course, for people with health conditions or certain things that prevent them from working, that can be extremely important. But that in and of itself is not going to be a way to help many people. in the long run. We simply don't have the resources to do that. We need to help empower them to rise up.

You talked about three factors. The first was education. Can you elaborate? In the context of education, we find that a number of different things matter. I basically visualize it as a pipeline starting from birth to early adulthood. That first job you get that seems to also play a really important role in the subsequent career you pursue. And throughout that pipeline, we find that there are various interventions basically improving the quality of the pipeline at each point that can help people do better. Let me give you a few examples. Start from preschool or early childhood nutrition.

There are a number of studies showing that when kids have access to better preschool environments, better, you know, kindergarten teachers, for example, that has longlasting effects on how well they do. In our group, we wrote a study called how your kindergarten teacher affects how much money you earn when you're 30 years old. And we were able to show that if you happen to get lucky and have a better teacher in kindergarten, we followed millions of kids over time and saw that the kids who had better kindergarten teachers were more likely to go to college, they were earning more money and so on. That continues throughout childhood. The quality of teaching matters. the quality of classes you have in high school, how big your classes are, various factors shape kids outcomes. And then that continues into higher education. If you go to a college that helps a lot of people rise up, gets them into good

careers and you know, not into pathways that are thriving in the current economy that has longlasting benefits.

You mentioned economic integration. Can you elaborate on that? Yeah. So why is our society so segregated? I think there are a few different reasons. If you look at where people live in cities in America, you tend to see that high-income people live in certain neighborhoods, lower income people live in other neighborhoods. If you look at where we go to school, where we go to college, coming back to the point we're discussing earlier in education, there tend to be certain colleges in America where if you look at kids outcomes after they graduate from college, they do terrifically well.

Think of well-known places like Harvard or Stanford or Colombia MIT. When we look at kids in these data, they're doing extremely well afterward. But unfortunately, it turns out that very few kids from low-income families actually attend these institutions even at present after they've expanded financial aid dramatically and so on. There are other colleges in America like two-year community colleges that educate many low-income kids, but unfortunately when we look at outcomes after kids graduate from those colleges, they don't look so great. Not that many of those kids are thriving afterward in terms of having successful careers and so on. So that's another dimension of our society where there's a lot of segregation.

Lower income kids get tend to go to certain kinds of colleges. Higher income kids go to other colleges. In fact, it turns out colleges are as segregated as neighborhoods in the United States, even though you might think of colleges as being the place where you mix with others. And so segregation is prevalent throughout our society. And often it's the higher income people who are participating in institutions that give you opportunities to then do even better. And that perpetuates a lack of opportunity.

And to be clear, you're talking about economic segregation, not segregation by race.

Exactly. Right. Here we're talking about economic segregation, which truly seems to be the key predictor of upward mobility. Of course, it could be correlated with racial segregation because black people in particular tend to have lower incomes at present in the United States, but here we're talking about economic segregation.

Your research keeps pointing to place, why does where a child grows up matter so much? We find very clearly in the data, again analyzing the lives of 20 million kids who grew up in different neighborhoods in America, that the exact neighborhood in which you live, not just which city, but which burrow of New York, which side of the street you live on in some cases plays a really fundamental role in determining how kids do. And that relates to many of the factors we've discussed. Where exactly you live can determine which school you attend, which college you end up going to, and so on.

But I think one of the most important reasons that place matters is because it determines who you interact with. It's because it determines your social capital. Perhaps the most important form of wealth we all have. Not financial wealth, but our social wealth. Who do we learn from? Who inspires us? Who tells us that even if you're not a doctor, here's the pathway to becoming a doctor. Those kinds of influences really shape how people end up doing. I think many people will find that very surprising. Your new study Raj looks at a huge realworld experiment in housing. And before we get to the results, what was hope six trying to do?

In our new study, we analyzed a very large program, $17 billion program called Hope 6, which sought to take some of the lowest opportunity neighborhoods that we've been talking about in America, high poverty public housing projects. There are famous examples that listeners may have heard of like Cababriti Green and Chicago or large housing projects in New York City known for being tough environments with high rates of crime, high rates of poverty and so forth. And basically, Hopeix in the 1990s and 2000s said, "Let's essentially demolish these high poverty public housing projects and try to create revitalized mixed income neighborhoods on the thesis that maybe this would change social dynamics and change the resources that people have and maybe bring better lives to the people who are living there."

And when you first saw the data from this program, what surprised you the most? Well, when we first started to analyze the impacts of hopeix and you know hopeix has been discussed widely for many years but fundamentally people haven't had the ability to track the people who were living in those public housing projects over time and understand how their lives changed after versus before revitalization. When we first start to look at the data, when frankly the the results were actually somewhat disappointing, if you look at the adults who lived in these projects before they were revitalized and followed them over time, you saw very little change in their economic outcomes afterwards. So after spending billions of dollars, if you simply tracked the earnings of the adults living in these places, you didn't seem to have achieved that much, which was disappointing. But then we recognized partly on the basis of prior

research our team has done looking at people who move across neighborhoods that where you live really matters much more for kids than it does for adults. And it turns out when you look at the kids growing up in these revitalized neighborhoods, you see a dramatically different picture. The children growing up in revitalized public housing projects in these mixed income areas have 30 40% higher levels of earnings than comparable children who were growing up in exactly the same place before revitalization.

And children who grew up in these neighborhoods from birth did especially well.

So what we see in the data is that kids who grew up for longer periods of time in revitalized communities do better as adults. That echoes a more general pattern we see in the data, which is that there are dosage effects or exposure effects every extra year that you spend in a more integrated community, in a community with better schools, and a community with access to better job training programs, the better you do in adulthood. And so if you grew up from birth in one of these revitalized communities, you got the biggest benefits. So, a lot of this comes back to what you called social capital or social connections. Can you talk more about what kids actually pick up by being around higher income peers?

Yeah, that's an excellent question, one that we are studying at the moment and I don't think quite have the answer to yet as a field, but I think of two or three different likely possibilities. So first at the most basic level more than half of jobs in America are obtained through referrals. So if you are connected to people who are working at a good company or working in a very different career to what your own parents are doing, you are more likely to get an internship or referral to such a job and that can make a big difference. Second and I think at a deeper level if you think about the process of say applying to college maybe familiar to many people you know around your parents who went to college and other peers who go to college but if imagine you're the first in your family to go to college living in a community where very few people have gone to college which is common for for many

low-income kids well how do you find out you know should I how should I prepare for the SAT how many times should I take the test you know what colleges should I apply to this is all kind of form morning. And I think being connected to people who've had those experiences can provide valuable information that really changes people's lives. Third, and I think maybe at the deepest level, and my suspicion, although we don't yet have the data to show this, is that this may be the most important channel, is that people's aspirations are shaped by who they're around. If you've never met a scientist, never met somebody who started a successful business, you just don't envision yourself going down that pathway. piece of evidence I like from some of our research that really points in that direction is that we track the lives of millions of people who go on to become inventors. And we find that women

are much more likely to go on to become inventor as measured by having a patent if they grow up around female scientists. But if they grow up around male scientists in exactly the same field, it has essentially no impact on their outcomes. And I think that points to very clear and more general pattern the data that people tend to emulate those around them. If you can see someone like you who's pursued a certain career path, then you're more likely to do it yourself. And so these more connected communities, I think, provide those aspirations for for children from lower income backgrounds.

That makes it feel really tangible. This was an expensive program about $17 billion overall and a cost for the government about $170,000 per apartment. When you weigh the costs against the long-term benefits for kids, how do they stack up?

Yes. So, like many things, Lyn, we found in our work that you don't get big benefits unless you make significant investments. You can't create economic mobility, create opportunity on the cheap. And so this costs quite a bit of money as you noted up front $170,000 per revitalized apartment. But we estimate that year after year as kids grow up in these units and go on to earn as we discussed earlier 40 50% more over their lives if they grew up in those places from birth, those benefits over say a 30-year period add up to about $500,000.

Adjusting for interest, adjusting for inflation far outweighing that initial cost. And indeed, even if you just measure the social impacts of those increased earnings in the form of higher tax revenues, lower expenditures on incarceration, for example, we see significantly lower incarceration rates for kids who grow up in these neighborhoods, um better health outcomes. My sense is that actually from a benefit costs perspective, this is an incredibly high rate of return investment for society. And so the question to me really is how do we create the structures to unlock more such investments where in the long run we will all be better off by not having these neighborhoods or these you know more broadly environments that are lower opportunity because when we help people thrive we all end up benefiting in the long run. Where else do you see real opportunities to create those connections, those social connections

without the huge expense of rebuilding entire neighborhoods? Yeah. So, I think there are a number of programs where we can adopt a similar line of thinking. So at a very simple level, if we're still thinking in the neighborhood context, rather than rebuilding neighborhoods, a different approach is to help people move to higher opportunity neighborhoods using things like housing vouchers on which we currently spend billions of dollars. But I think we could do that again in a more productive way. We see in the data that the millions of families that are receiving housing vouchers from the federal government, they're not actually using them to move to more connected higher opportunity areas because they're not receiving the social support needed in the housing search process itself to be able to find housing in one of these higher opportunity neighborhoods. And we have conducted interventions in the city

of Seattle that have since been replicated across the country that show that just providing a little bit of assistance when people are looking for housing can fundamentally change where they end up choosing to live and again improve their kids outcomes to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars over their lifetimes. So that's within the housing space. But then the same logic applies in many other domains. So give you two quick examples. In the context of schools, there's a recent program that some of my colleagues have been studying called communities in schools that essentially brings in social supports to kids in schools, you know, who may have who may not be attending or who may be having challenges at home uh that are preventing them from excelling in school. And they basically bring in a counselor and some support services to help you get through that period. And they show again following kids' lives

over long periods of time that this program has very large benefits. And then in a different setting, slightly older age, if we think about job training programs, there's a lot of discussion of workforce training these days in the United States as you know, especially in the context of the AI revolution. And there there's a lot of evidence showing that if you simply train people to get different jobs, you don't have that much of an effect. But if you give people a new set of skills coupled with that social support here, what that means is a network that gets them an internship at a specific firm looking to hire for that new set of skills they have or support in finding that new job. There's this new wave of programs called percolas Europe other such examples that have incredibly large impacts at very low cost and generate very high rates of return. So I think there are many places where we can be

having much greater impact without spending that much more money than we currently do, thereby helping people rise up and increasing our nation's productivity.

What do you see as the biggest opportunity that we're not taking advantage of right now to help people move up?

I think we spend a tremendous amount of money trying to address issues of poverty in the United States. trillion dollars a year depending upon how you count if not more. But we are not doing that in a way that allows people to most effectively sustain themselves in the long run. Coming back to creating opportunity as opposed to simply addressing the point in time poverty problem. And I think when we unlock those opportunities, we need to recognize that that's just not just a matter of charity. It's a matter of creating a more productive society that ultimately will increase GDP growth and benefit all of us. And I think we could be doing much more especially given modern evidence on what works in that space as we just discussed that can change many people's lives.

If you were advising a mayor or a governor, and I know you advise many mayors and governors, what do you advise them to do? And what's one mistake you warn them not to make when trying to expand opportunity?

So I basically advise them to first follow the data. So we now have data where you can look up in your own city where is opportunity lacking the most. Can go to a website called the opportunity atlas. Literally type in different zip codes, different addresses, diagnose the problem very clearly. Where do I need to focus for which subgroups? Uh how are things changing over time? and so on. So that gives you a clear picture of the problem. And then in treating the problem to make a medical analogy, we often focus on three different domains.

One is desegregation, helping people move to opportunity. Could be through vouchers, could be through changes in zoning laws, school district boundaries, and so on. The second approach is place-based investment. This relates to the hope six work that we just talked about. How can you take the low opportunity places and turn them into higher opportunity areas? And the third is to connect people to higher education after age 18. The key touch point is not the home you're living in but typically the college you might attend. How can we create better pathways to upward mobility at that point? Not just through traditional higher education but very importantly through vocational programs through modern day apprenticeships number of these can be highly effective.

So I think there's a clear playbook one can follow in each of these domains. I would encourage people to look at evidence we've compiled on our website opportunity insights that we can inform that a mistake people often make I think is to say I'm just going to spend a lot of money on this problem. I'm going to focus on the dollars that I spend in these various buckets without thinking as carefully about exactly how is that being spent and how is that endbine service being used by people who are often in very difficult circumstances and need social support to even take advantage of the resources you're offering. So you may set up a new program which seems very exciting on paper but in practice people with two jobs and multiple kids and many other challenges don't have the ability to actually make the best use of that. And so I think thinking carefully about how you provide that social support to use

that effectively to help people rise up is extremely important. Raj, can you explain briefly how your work is unique and different from the many surveys that are done?

People have been studying issues of economic opportunity, growth, inequality for centuries. As you know, traditionally the way that's done quantitatively in economics is using survey data. You basically ask people, "How much money are you making? Where did you grow up?" And so forth, and you try to draw some conclusions from that. Lynn, as you know, well, if I were to ask you to give me a detailed picture of your life over the past 30 years, it's probably hard to recall every single thing that happened and what was important, what was not. What we are doing instead is using what you might think of as a big data modern-day approach where what's the key feature of our modern environment? It's having a tremendous amount of data. There's kind of a digital exhaust pipe to everything we do. Every time you file a tax return, every time you interact with people online, there's social network data.

There's data on how much money you're making, where you live, and so on. All in anonymized form. We take data on hundreds of millions of people and use that information to draw the insights that we've been discussing.

Raj, before I ask for the three takeaways you'd like to leave the audience with today, is there anything else you'd like to mention? What should I have asked you that I have not?

I think one let me say two things. I think the first is that we've been focusing on these issues from an economic perspective which of course comes naturally to me as an economist. But I think these issues of the American dream and people lacking opportunity are in a way much broader than that. They underly in my view the fundamental issues we face in our society as reflected in political discourse and the disconnect and the polarization that we see. We don't focus on politics in our own group. We focus solely on the science of economic opportunity. But other people have taken our data and correlated it with measures of political sentiment for example and you see interesting patterns that people are more likely to support populist candidates. basically have the sentiment that they want to overthrow the current regime in places where opportunity is particularly lacking, where levels of upward income mobility are low. Why is

that? It's because in those places, people tend to exhibit what's called zero sum thinking where when you live in an environment where it's hard to rise up, you tend to have the view that if you do well, it must come at my expense. And when you have that view, I think it creates kind of a corrosive atmosphere where it's hard to support people coming up together. So I think these issues of creating more economic mobility are vital not just from an economic point of view but really for the stability of our country and for progress more generally.

The second point I would make that not touched upon as much is that everyone stands to gain when we have greater upward mobility. It's not just about that person doing better. It's about society doing better. And the way we see that most clearly is by looking at data on things like who becomes an inventor or who becomes an entrepreneur. And we see that kids from lower income families are 10 times less likely to become inventors or entrepreneurs than kids who happen to be born to parents say in the top 1% of the income distribution. Now that's not because of a lack of talent.

It's because of the same issues we've been discussing of a lack of exposure or a lack of resources while they were growing up and so on. And if we could address those challenges, not only would those kids do better, but we would find a number of what we term lost Einsteins, we estimate that there would be about four times as many inventors in America if kids from lower income families were to invent at the same rate as high income white men, for example. And so, in that sense, we all stand to gain from addressing this issue of economic opportunity.

Lost Einstein's is a wonderful way to frame it. Raj, what are the three takeaways you'd like to leave the audience with today?

The first takeaway I would like to leave the audience with is that we should focus on expanding opportunity to address many of the challenges we face in society today. not merely addressing inequality or poverty, but actually creating opportunities for people to genuinely rise up on their own and achieve a higher standard of living that will benefit themselves and ultimately benefit all of us. My second takeaway is that we should focus on connecting people to opportunity. And I use the word connecting because we find in our work that who you are connected to, what your social capital is is really a key driver of economic opportunity at an individual level and at a broader level as well. When we live in a society where low-income people have more connections to high-income people, be it through their neighborhoods or their religious groups or their sports teams or their schools or employers,

that can help people rise up. And so I think that's both important for people seeking to rise up themselves. That forming those connections can be very valuable for you and for people seeking to make a difference in the world. You could think about how you mentor someone or how you change who you hire or who you admit in in your institution. I think that can be a way to create opportunity for many going forward. And my third takeaway, the broadest level is that we spend a lot of effort and money in my view on programs that try to solve this problem of addressing poverty, creating opportunity, helping increase productivity in our country. But unlike in the business world where you would very carefully measure the impacts of every expenditure you have and try to maximize profits and minimize costs. In this context, we spend hundreds of billions of dollars and we often have very little idea of what's working and

what's not. But now, thanks to modern data and methods, we can get a much better sense of which programs are working and which programs are not. And so, I would encourage people to think carefully about how to measure the effectiveness of the many efforts they're undertaking. Looking for instance at some of the work our group has been doing and others, I think we can have a much bigger impact that way. Thank you, Raj. Thank you for your research and your work with opportunity insights to help create economic opportunity. This has been wonderful.

Thank you, Lyn. My pleasure.

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