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Most People Don't Understand This About Winning Ft. Tim Grover - Ep 996 Q&AF

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Most People Don't Understand This About Winning Ft. Tim Grover - Ep 996 Q&AF", an episode of Andy Frisella published February 2, 2026 (1 h 1 min, about 12,094 words). It mentions 7 people, works and ideas, including Andy Forcella, Tim Grover, 75 Hard, The Book on Mental Toughness, Relentless.

What this episode is about

Tim Grover emphasizes that winning requires an obsession and unwavering commitment, arguing that success is not accidental but the result of unseen hard work and dedication. He challenges the notion that greatness can be achieved through shortcuts, urging individuals to confront their egos and recognize the hidden efforts behind high-level achievements.

Key takeaways

  • Winning isn't casual; it's a full-time obsession masquerading as magic.
  • Greatness requires visible effort; the unseen grind is what makes dreams look effortless.
  • Believing half-effort leads to success? That's ego talking, not reality.
  • Successful transformations often trace back to a pivotal lesson painfully learned early on.
  • The allure of magic in success hides the relentless hustle behind the curtain.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Tim Grover, 75 Hard, Relentless, Andy Forcella
  2. – 20:00: First Form
  3. – 1:00:00: First Form

Notable quotes from "Most People Don't Understand This About Winning Ft. Tim Grover - Ep 996 Q&AF"

  • Have real talk. Real talk is just 5 to 20 minutes of me giving you some real talk. And then we have 75 hard versus.
    about 75 Hard · at
  • Tim has been one of the guiding I guess mentors in my life for a very long time. I was introduced to Tim through his book, Relentless. when I read that book, I was pretty sure that I was the only person like me on the planet. I was in a.
    about Andy Forcella · at
  • Hey Andy. My name is Ty and I'm from Nebraska. since I was 16, I've been listening to you. I'm 21 now and have successfully failed my first business. I started a construction company in 2025.
    about Nebraska · at
  • The podcast since you've been 16. So then you should be very familiar with First Forms history when you guys opened up your first store and everybody was sleeping in the store…
    about First Form · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Andy Forcella — Person · Host · 1 mention · first at
    Primary speaker and show host running the Q&A format; he frames the episode around winning, pressure, and long-term process, and he interviews Tim Grover as a special guest.
  • Tim Grover — Person · Main guest · 4 mentions · first at
    Featured guest and trusted mentor figure to the host; contributes coaching perspective on pressure, timelines, and elite performance; also wrote the foreword to Andy's book.
    Tim has been one of the guiding I guess mentors in my life for a very long time. I was introduced to Tim through his book, Relentless. when I read that book, I was pretty sure that I was the only person like me on the planet. I was in a.

Books & papers

  • The Book on Mental Toughness — Book · Primary recommendation · 1 mention · first at
    Andy Forcell's book on mental toughness, with a forward written by Tim Grover.
    Episode 208 on the audio feed. Again, that's 208 on the audio feed. there's also a book. The book is available at andyforceller.com. It's called The Book on Mental Toughness.…
  • Relentless — Book · Referenced work · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as a book that had a significant impact on Andy Forcell's life, saving him during a dark period.
    Tim has been one of the guiding I guess mentors in my life for a very long time. I was introduced to Tim through his book, Relentless. when I read that book, I was pretty sure that I was the only person like me on the planet. I was in a.

Companies & orgs

  • First Form — Company · Business focus · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned in the context of Andy Forcell's business history and the challenges faced in its early days.

Products & tech

  • 75 Hard — Product · Primary recommendation · 2 mentions · first at
    Described as the initial phase of the Live Hard program, the world's most famous mental transformation program.

Places & events

  • Nebraska — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as the home state of a listener who submitted a question.

Full transcript with timestamps

Cuz there's nothing casual about winning, bro. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. People who win are obsessed with winning. And when you come in and you think that you can do half their work or uh learn half their skills or you're going to find a way around that, you got to realize that's an ego problem with you. You think you're better than you actually are, which is keeping you from getting where you want to go. Greatness is not an accident. It It really isn't. And it's painted as if it is, but it's not. You just don't see the things that go into it. So you assume it's magical.

So what is magic? Magic isn't what you see. It's what you don't see. Man, there you go.

It's what you don't see. So when that person has that magical skill, that magical talent, that magic makes that magical shot. It's what you don't see. When a magician isn't everybody, it's what the magician doesn't show you what makes things magical.

What is up guys? It's Andy Forcell and this is the show for the realists. Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness, and delusions of modern society and welcome reality. Guys, today we have Q&A. That's where you submit the questions and we give you the answers. DJ's going to tell you how to submit your questions. Guys, you can email these questions in to ask andy andforcella.com. Uh, you can also click the link in the description below to submit them for a chance to be read or drop them in the comment section of the Q&A of episodes at any faceller motivation on YouTube.

Now, if this is your first time listening, we have shows within the show. Uh, tonight we're going to have CTI live at 700 p.m. Central time on YouTube and X, formerly known as Twitter. Uh, sometimes we're going to have real talk. Real talk is just 5 to 20 minutes of me giving you some real talk. And then we have 75 hard versus. 75 hard versus where someone who's completed the 75 hard program comes on the show. They talk about how they were before, how they are now, and how they use the 75 hard program to transform their lives. If you're unfamiliar with 75 hard is the initial phase of the Live Hard program, which is the world's most famous mental transformation program in history. And you can get it for free at episode 208 on the audio feed. Again, that's 208 on the audio feed. Uh there's also a book. The book is available at andyforceller.com. It's called The Book on Mental Toughness. Uh

and I happen to have the guy who wrote the forward for the book sitting directly in front of me.

It wasn't me. Yeah, it's not DJ. Uh it's Mr. Tim Grover. What's happening, bro?

Everything's excellent, brother. What an honor, man, to be able to do that forward for you,

bro. You have no idea. It's not [clears throat] your honor, it's mine. What was the first thing you said when he asked you?

Well, I first thing that came to mind. Of course. Yeah, of course. The only thing was the the background story about that is um my agent Sherry got a call saying we listen, we need the forward. We need the forward like right away. And she sent the she got in contact with me. We wrote the forward. We sent it to her.

What came out a year and a half later. Oh yeah. Hey, it took it took us a minute.

It took us a minute, but uh a lot of you guys don't know, but um you know, Tim has been one of the guiding I guess mentors in my life for a very long time. Uh I was introduced to Tim through his book, Relentless. Uh when I read that book, I was pretty sure that uh I was the only person like me on the planet. I was in a very dark space. Uh I was like a lot of you guys, very ambitious, working very hard and felt completely out of place. And I read that book and and I say this often, dude. I think it saved my life for sure. I know it did.

And um you know, to have you write the forward of my book is just I mean, bro, it's one of the coolest things that's ever happened in my life. Oh,

so it was it's an honor, man. You know how we I feel about you, Annie, by the work that you've done, your history, what you've built, everything, you as a person. So, it wasn't even a And we get asked all the time. I mean, I know how often I get asked, I don't even know how many times Sherry gets emailed about people asking us to do forwards and quotes for the book, and the answer is no.

Well, not no hell. Yeah, it listen um it's pretty awesome, man. It's pretty cool to to have you as a friend and and to to you know, how we met was pretty cool. Um, you know, I I read the book. I posted about the book on my Instagram and you sold a couple books

and uh and then we met at Cardone's uh 10X, his first one, and that was like sitting right next to each other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty cool, man. I was like, "Man, there's Tim Grover." And you turned around, you're like, "Andy." And I'm like, "Holy [ __ ] Tim Grover knows who I am."

And Andy was wearing a suit. Yeah. No [ __ ] That's right. That's right. But uh but we have him here today to go through some uh some Q&A with you guys.

So, it's a very special day for you guys. And I guess we'll just get right into it, man.

Yeah, let's do it, man. I got some good ones for you. You do? I I I usually do. I try.

All right. So, here we go, guys. Andy. Tim. Question number one. Uh, hey Andy. My name is Ty and I'm from Nebraska. Uh, since I was 16, I've been listening to you. I'm 21 now and have successfully failed my first business. I started a construction company in 2025 and by 2026, we are done. And now I'm restarting. I don't have a great path in mind, but I know I need to pay bills, make money, survive for now. I was wondering if you had any wise words of MF wisdom for a 21-year-old who's determined to be a millionaire by 25.

Well, first I'd say uh you're lucky to have that lesson in your in your uh repertoire now as opposed to later. Um, you know, right now when you're young, a lot of people, you know, they're scared of failing. They're scared of looking stupid. And you already got that part out of the way.

Yeah. Successfully fail. So, uh, um, you know, when it comes to losing, man, you know, you can hate to lose, but also value the lessons that it learned that that it teaches you. And, um, you know, where you're at in your life, this isn't going to be your last loss. Uh, but hopefully it's your most important. And you have to ask yourself, you know, instead of worrying about like how silly you look or or a failed business or any of these things, you have to just ask yourself what'd you learn? Because this path that we're on as entrepreneurs is a lifelong path. You know, uh Tim and I talk about this a lot. You know, when you're a pro alete, you have, you know, 8 to 12 years if if you're lucky.

If you're lucky, right? And entrepreneurship is a unique game where you get to compete at the highest level, but it goes for as long as you want to play. And you know, sometimes people opt out, sometimes people ride it all the way to the end. But the point of the matter is is that you're very young. And to have started and failed a business at the age of 21, it really honestly is probably the best thing that you could have going for you. Uh when I started in business, you know, I I started with a lot of little things, you know, even back to when I was a kid.

I started, you know, um selling baseball cards, selling light bulbs doortodoor, uh doing all these different things. And, you know, none of them worked. But every single time I went through one of these these situations where things didn't work, I learned a lesson. And as I've grown as an entrepreneur over the course of my life, I've started to change things from wins and losses to um lessons. Okay, what did I learn here? What did I learn there? And that goes for both the wins and the losses. And I think to to play the long game, you know, you have to attach less of your identity to the outcomes in terms of wins or losses and more of your identity to the process. Okay, what am I doing every single day? What are lessons have I learned? How is that going to help me get where I want to go? And that goes for both the wins and the losses. This is like, you know, you guys saw um Indiana win national championship last

week. You know, they interviewed Signetti right after the game and he said he said, "What are you going to do?" He said, "Well, I'm gonna have a beer." Okay. But I guarantee you he probably didn't have two,

right? He probably I bet you the day after that he was back in the game working for that next one and that next one.

And you know, you're going to lose games, you're going to lose businesses, you're going to lose relationships, you're going to lose. Um,

but if you keep going, it's not a loss, it's just a lesson. So, I think that the main thing that you got to keep in mind here as a young man is that you're going to have these situations repeat over and over and over again. Most people will identify a big loss like that as a defining moment in their life in a bad way. When in reality, every great person that I've ever met defines their losses as just part of the journey. They see it as a necessity that led to the outcome that they were after down the road. Um so, you know, that that's my advice, man. It's really just as simple as as continuing to work down the path and continue to get better. I mean, what do you think, Tim?

Well, first of all, I'm still waiting on my light bulbs from you. Yeah, I didn't realize it was you. Yeah.

Um, obviously everything that you said is absolutely true. The one thing I would say in part of his question is I one of the reasons I think a lot of people fail in their thing is they put a timeline on like, you know, I have to be a like he said, I have to I want to be a millionaire by the time I'm 25,

right? All right. So you try to you you try to accelerate everything and you may not be ready to accelerate at the speed that you that you think you're prepared for. So throw that throw that number or that timeline out and like you said continue with the process, continue to work and because things and you you say this all the time is things always take longer than you anticipate.

They just they just do. They just do. and your story is not is not unique. Um, you know, obviously, you know, you said you've been listening to this to the podcast since you've been 16. So then you should be very familiar with First Forms history when you guys opened up your first store and everybody was sleeping in the store and I think I I don't remember your first month or something you made like $12 or 18. Yeah. Seven bucks our first day.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you don't you don't have a you don't have a unique you don't have a unique story. So a lot of people have gone through this. So when you're taking a when you taking a lessons from these individuals listen don't think you're alone. You're alone in this. But whatever mistakes you made you cannot continue to make those same mistakes. It's like you know you have to learn. You have to learn from this failure. Like they saying failure is a learning process. So, if you're going through it and you like you're going to try to do it the exact same way, the same method with even the same people and the same attitude, it's not it's not going to it's not going to work. There has to be some there has to be some adjustments there. And maybe the people that you were doing business with or the some people involved in your business, you got to look at them and see if they're part of the win or part of the

loss. Yeah. I also think it's important for everybody to understand that like dude whether you're playing basketball or baseball or football or entrepreneurship or business. I mean look dude you know you get in the you get in the Hall of Fame in baseball for batting 300. You know what that means? That means you struck out or got out seven out of 10 times.

And everybody that you guys look at and see as winning, they don't necessarily show those parts of their journey. you know, they should, but they don't. And that's for a number of reasons. You know, one, maybe maybe they've got a massive ego and they're embarrassed of of the things that they did wrong.

It's not cool or flashy. Yeah. But but the truth of the matter is is that you know in in my experience, [clears throat] you know, those have been the most valuable things. The times when things didn't work out, the times when things didn't go the way that it's supposed to go because it it did allow, just like Tim said, for you to audit and say, "Okay, I can make this decision. This actually worked pretty good, but this didn't work well." Um, and then over the course of time, you start to find that recipe where the things that work work and the things that you are weak, uh, you replace with with either people or systems or, uh, a new skill set, and then you go at it again. And I think a lot of people, to your point, Tim, when they put these timelines on them, um, you know, they get to be the 25 and they're like, well, [ __ ] I didn't make it, so you know what? It's not for me. Complete failure,

right? And that's just not the game. And the game is very long. And these people that you look at and you say, "I really want my life to look like that." I mean, dude, I I could guarantee you if you get them and you get a couple beers in them, they'll tell you all the horror stories they had to go through to get to that point.

And here's the thing is just you look at the successful people and you talk to them and you you go to them like, "Man, you made it." They'll the first thing they'll tell you, I haven't made anything yet.

Yeah. I haven't made anything. It's a It's a It's an infinity journey. It doesn't it doesn't it doesn't end. And that I'm not always saying that's a that's the best thing, but the true entrepreneurship the journey never the journey never stops. It just doesn't. I think, you know, it's also important to note, dude, that you know, the people who fail the biggest in life are usually the people that won early. Okay? We see this over and over again. We see this with the MVP of the high school football game. Oh, yeah.

Or we see this with Great point. Right. you started out and you know you you hit on something and it made you some money right up front. And what happens is or you know like we see this with with people's physical bodies, right? They were in shape. Uh they were attractive. They were and then you see them when they're 40 and you're like who the is this? Right? And the the reason for that is is because they never actually had to learn the skill set to produce that outcome. And a lot of people who lose in life, the worst are people who won once. They won once and then they can't win again because they attach their identity to that one win that came because you know what? There is some things that you're going to swing and you're going to hit real hard and it might work out a little bit, but if you don't develop the work ethic, the skills, the habits that come behind that, you can't replicate it. And so the

truth of the matter is to this guy who's asked this question, "Bro, you're in a much better spot than anybody could be over the course of the long term by failing that so early." Okay, if you had won that business so early, here's what your attitude would be.

Everything I do wins. Yeah. Everything I touch turns to gold. And I know this from being around a lot of uh business people and a lot of people who have lost in their entrepreneurship journey. They constantly talk about that one time they won and they attach way too much to that one win uh as opposed to, you know, are you winning consistently? What's it look like 5 years from now, 10 years from now, 20 years from now? And so I actually think that winning early is a very dangerous thing for people um because they never learn the skills or or or develop the the lessons that they need to learn to replicate that over the course of their life.

The one thing I would also tell them I was like take a little journey into your upbringing. All right. how you how your parents, if you have siblings, how how they handled winning and losing when you were grow growing up, not only for themselves, for you, cuz that will that has a lot to do with your identity.

Yeah. How much you attach yourself to it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, bro, you know, I mean, if you grow up around parents that are can, you know, look, dude, there's two there's there's the story of like the two sons, right? They have an alcoholic father and one son never touches alcohol because he saw what his alcoholic father did. The other son does exactly what his father did and ends up with the exact same life.

And you have to have the awareness and the honesty to be able to look at your environment of where you grew up and say, "What did I pick up from that? What did I see?" Right? And sometimes that [ __ ] isn't fun to look at because dude, we love our parents and we we're happy that, you know, they they tried their hardest and we care about them and, you know, it's it's hard to look at someone that you truly love and say, "Man, they kind of me on that." You know what I mean? Right.

But if you're aware, if you if you develop that self-awareness to be able to truly dissect things for what they are, that's where you want to be. You want to live in that zone. You don't want to attach your emotions to either. You want to see things for what they are. And when you can do that without emotion, it makes your chances for success, you know, that much greater.

Love it, man. I love it. Uh, guys, Andy Tim, let's get to question number two. Um, Andy, I feel like once people labeled me capable, the expectations never stop. I can't fail quietly anymore. And that pressure makes every decision heavier. It's like I am expected to succeed now. So what do you do when you don't? I know every single at bat isn't going to be a home run. I get that. But the people counting on me don't. So how do you handle this? I say that's a great problem. Most people can't put the expectation of winning on themselves. They have to have it put on them externally. And when you're lucky enough to be in a situation where everybody expects you to win, that pressure is automatic. And by the way, nothing good ever comes without pressure. So I would consider yourself pretty fortunate to have that because the worst thing that could happen were for you to be going through your life

and be surrounded by people that just expect you to lose. There's no pressure. There's no there's no expectation. And ideally, you should have that expectation on yourself. But sometimes it takes external pressure to to to to start embodying that full time because dude, like we just talked about an hour ago. It It's heavy as the [ __ ] head, right? When you're that dude, guess what? It comes with that dude [ __ ]

Yeah. You know what I mean? Everybody wants to be Everyone wants to sit in that chair. Everybody wants to sit in that seat until it's time to sit in that seat. Until it's time to make those decisions. Listen, pressure is a privilege, folks. Stop. Don't run from it. You don't run. You don't run from pressure. You run toward you run towards it. All right? Pressure defines who you are and who you're not, but also defines who you can become. All right? So, don't you know, you sit here and you watch what separates the top business people, the the CEOs of the companies, the the pressure when they have to make those dec when they have to make those decisions that affect, you know, tens and thousands of of individuals. when you're watching a baseball when you're watching a a baseball uh player, a pitcher or a batter or basketball or a quarterback or so forth, you know, it's the it's the wins and losses comes from

individuals that can handle the pressure that's not only internal, but that's that's also ex that's also external. Obviously, those people see something in you, but make sure you're taking the pre the the pressure the individuals that are putting the pressure on you are those individuals that does that have the right to do that. All right? This is this is, you know, it's just not people that are trying to that are looking to bank off of your bank off of your success. So, if you want to alleviate some of that pressure is alleviate those individuals.

alleviate those individuals, then the pressure that that's bestowed on you is actually pressure that you want.

How do you think? Have you ever met anybody like I mean, dude, you've you've you've coached literally the greatest achievers in all different areas, sports, business, etc. Have you ever met anybody that that that didn't want that?

Not at the highest level. The pressure? Yeah. Not not at the not not at the not at the highest level. And then you know what you also look at it's your it's your consistent habits over and over again that people that people see that allows other individuals to believe you know believe in you. You know you look at um Michael in the you know in two of the championship games he gave the ball to Steve he gave the ball to Steve he gave the ball to Steve Kerr for that shot. He gave the other one to he he gave the other one to John Paxton. All right. But it took him years of watching those individuals in games, their practice habits, how they showed up to be able to say, "Okay, I trust I trust those I trust those individuals to pass them the ball." So, it doesn't always you don't always have to be the a lot of times your best individuals on in the organization and team are the ones that can handle the pressure the

best, but they're also other individuals during certain circumstances. You have you got to know who to pass the who to pass the ball to and let them say, "Hey, the the there create that take that pressure take that pressure situation, have everybody come your way and then make the right play." How how I feel like a lot of people get stuck in this idea that they're the only ones that can operate during pressure, which makes the pressure feel even greater.

Wow. Than what it is. How does someone go about figuring out who's who in regards to who can also handle that pressure when the time comes?

Well, like I said, you have to be around those individuals. It it has a lot to do with the the dynamics, the dynamics of them growing up, who they who they're hanging out with, what situations they put in. I mean, now I hate to say this, but you know, society is the way in our system is it's pressure is not a good pressure is not a good thing anymore. It's just, you know, it's everything. We got to treat everybody the same. We can't make anybody look a certain way. I mean, there's schools now that literally when I went to school, you had to make a presentation. You got in front of the class or you got in front of the whole school and you had to go out there and stand in front of the audience and tell them what you had to say and so forth.

Now, because they don't want to, they don't want to create anything different. You can literally take your cell phone and record your presentation now under your own

Yeah. Yeah. In the safety of a bedroom. I got a note because of my anxiety. I can't do the presentation. Well, then guess what, [ __ ] You're going to lose,

right? You're going to cuz that and then when you're exposed to that situation in real life, and you will be at some point. I don't care how protected you are.

Yeah. You You have You have zero. Your body It's a foreign substance. Your body doesn't even know what what it is.

You crumble. You Yeah. You're going to be like, "What's going to what's going to happen?" Well, dude, and that's why it's so important for you to seek out uncomfortable situations every single chance you get. Like, if you struggle with speaking, you should be trying to speak in front of two people, three people, five people, as much as it takes for you to lose that that feeling. Okay? And and what happens is over time, your skill set becomes so strong and so competent, bro. You don't even notice that there's pressure. Like, you don't even feel it. Like a lot of people think like they look at like high achievers and they think, "Man, that guy does really good under pressure." Except

that guy doesn't even feel the pressure. No, that's that's it's not even in his mind. There's no there's nobody that you watch on TV that is truly great at what they do, whether it be UFC or baseball or basketball or this or that or this, that

they don't feel it because they've acclimated to it over and over and over and over. And once you're acclimated to that level of pressure,

it seems like it's some sort of supernatural power, but it's it's very methodical and it's very tactical. And as long as you it's it's no different than a cold plunge, okay? You get in a cold plunge the first day, I don't give a [ __ ] who you are, bro. You're freaked the [ __ ] out. Okay? But if you do it every day for a year, okay? You're going to be around your buddies that have never been in a cold punch before and you're gonna get right in there and they're going to be like, "Oh, well that's that's no big deal." But then when they get in, they they freak out.

So, a lot of this is just acclamation, dude. It's just looking for situations. I mean, the first thing is you got to be aware of your lack of skill, right? And you got to be aware that I need to work on this or I need to work on that. And let me tell you something about speaking because it's a great it's a great thing to talk about right now. Uh there is not a better skill than you can have than being able to communicate under pressure. It is like the skill. So you know when I first started public speaking I was speaking to my team and in in the in the back of my in the front of my retail store and I had a piece of paper with some notes on it and my p my hand was looking like this and there's eight people in the room and I'm freaking the out but dude when you do that like a lot of people will say well how the did you learn how to speak?

Well, I had to do it every single week for 10 years before I ever got on the stage. And then when I got on the stage the first time, I was freaking out. But then I did that a gazillion times. And then now it's like, "Hey, you want to go speak in front of 10,000 people?" I'm like "Now?"

Yeah. Like, you know, like like right you need me like what do I need to say? Like what do you which way do you want me to go? Sure, I'll go do it. Like these this acclamation

of pressure and and being in situations that make you uncomfortable is extremely valuable because nobody was willing to do that work, bro. Like I was terrified to talk to people in public. Terrified. Okay? And even though I worked at a retail counter for 10 years, I couldn't go out in public and talk to people. I I could talk to them very well when they were in my environment. Sure. But I couldn't do it outside of that. And I recognized that. So, you know what I did? I made up a little game. A lot of you guys might recognize it from Live Hard.

What I did was I went to the grocery store and I said, "I got to have three meaningful conversations and then I can go home with strangers." And this wasn't, "Hey, uh, you know, nice shoes." It was

a conversation, right? I had to make it and force it into a conversation. And dude, I did that for years. For years, I did that every single day. The skills I gained from that exercise are very, very, very responsible for the outcome that I'm currently living in. And you guys have to understand, this goes for anything. This doesn't just go for speaking. This goes for if you're learning how to run or you're learning how to lift weights or whatever, dude. It's just repetition after repetition after repetition to the point where it just feels natural. And most people when it comes to like pressure run from the pressure their whole lives.

Pressure is a bad thing. Pressure is something to be avoided. And because they have that mind frame, they never acclimate to it the way that you need to to be effective. Do do does any of your athletes uh you know like do they ever talk to you like, "Hey, Tim, I'm having trouble with the pressure, man." I mean, they might hit you privately and say, "Hey, man. I'm getting a little overwhelmed." But, and I always tell them when they get overwhelmed, I was like, "Look outside the game. Look outside the game. What What's it what what's the external thing that's bringing in?" Because when you get overwhelmed, it's usually not by the situation. It's all the external. That's why I said you need to take a look at these the these outside individuals. And this goes back to a lot of pressure stuff has to do with rejection. So the one thing that was a great story that you just said about going to the grace

grocery grocery store. How many times did you walk up to somebody they thought I was a weirdo,

right? Just just a reject just a reject. Can you imagine going into a grocery store, walk nice shoes, they'll be like, "Oh, now the

right." But just just being able to once that pressure situation, being able just to approach a stranger, don't know who they are, and that is more than actually striking up the conversation. Once you get into there, you're like, "I'm good."

Yeah. It's a huge, huge deal. And you can apply that to anything that you want to get better at.

Yeah. So, don't run from the pressure. No. No. Not if you want to win. No, you got you got to you got to run. You got If you keep running from the pressure, you're going to be running your You're going to be running your whole life, man. You just going to Most people do.

Yeah. You're just going to You're just going and eventually you're going to get tired. You you going you're going to get you're going to get tired. You got to go deal go deal with that pressure, man. Go deal go deal with the internal pressure, the external pressure, whatever whatever it is, go deal. You will you will be you will you will benefit so much for it in all aspects of your life. And and here's the thing. If you don't deal with if you don't deal with the pressure for your fa for your family, it's going to be generation. They're going to watch how you do it. Then the next generation is going to run from it. The next one's going to run from it. Somebody's got to somebody's got to break the cycle.

Absolutely. Love it, man. Love it, man. Guys, Andy, Tim, we got question number three. Uh Andy, I've been working hard for years, but my results

aren't where I thought they would be at by now. At what point? Yeah, mine either.

Everyone's working hard. I hate Man, just this I I hate Well, man, I hate that dislike. Yeah. I'm like, seriously, I've been working I've been working. Everybody in this building got how many? You got what? How many employees do you got?

Yeah. All right. Everyone's working. Working hard does not People think working hard guarantees you results. Working hard does not guarantee you results. It just doesn't. All right. Are you working hard on the right? Are you working hard on the right things? You may be think you're working hard. All right. You may feel like you're working hard, but you better look around and see how hard some of the other individuals are working.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I mean that that's that at what point do you do you stop telling yourself to stay the course and instead admit you might need to change how you think, work, or or even who you are?

Well, I think the first thing that Tim said is the absolute truth. Okay. Everybody works hard, dude. You're you're not even in the game if you don't work hard. Okay. And it it you know that this is a pet peeve of mine, too. Like these that come in, bro. They come in and they're like, I'm a great I'm a great on the team. I'm a great team member. I show up on time. I work hard. The are you talking about, bro? That is like the minimum. You have to do those things. If you don't do those things, you don't even have a shot. Okay? And you can work hard your entire life and still lose. That's the thing. Working hard at the wrong thing, like you just said,

guarantees a loss. So you have to have the awareness for this person here. Are you making improvement? How many years have you been working? Have you been addressing your weak skill points? Have you been learning lessons? Or are you continuing to just pound your head into that wall hoping that it's going to come down? Because I'm going to tell you my okay. The hardest the the most effective, highest achieving people in the world understand that working hard is just part of it.

They don't even talk about how hard they work, dude. It dude, it's they they literally don't because it's just the price.

Yeah. But what they do talk about is could I do this a little better? Could I adjust my swing here? Could I move two steps this way and make it better? Am I doing this drill properly? Am I reading this kind of book? Am I actually good at this or am I making up for it with just grit effort? Okay, because people love to say this [ __ ] now, too. They like to say, "Well, it's not about working hard. It's about working smart." No, dumbass. It's about doing both for a very long time. Okay? And anybody who says this [ __ ] on the internet like this little Oh, it's about working smart, not working hard. Those are lazy. Okay? And the people who say it's only about hard work, it doesn't matter. Those people are stupid. Okay?

So, you're either lazy or you're [ __ ] stupid or you're effective. Effective people work hard and they learn along the way and they do that for as long as it takes to achieve the outcome. And that's the way it is. So, I can't answer your question about whether or not you're on the right path because I don't have enough data to tell if you know there are certain paths that you could choose that are not going to produce the right outcome. They're just not. Okay. Are most of them that way? No. But there are some. Okay. You're not going to be a multi-billionaire selling butterfly t-shirts right?

Okay. If your goal is to become a multi-billionaire, it's probably not going to happen on that path. All right? So, you have to be able to align the outcome with the path and then accompany that journey with very hard work for a very long time with the ability to improve along the way. But most people want one or the other or something else. And it's just not the way it works, man.

Listen, ask your peers, ask the people around you if you're working hard. Ask then then then then see, you know.

Well, what is hard work now? Well, well, it's hard work is so much simpler now because everything is literally you carry it around with you. You can get your research, you get your information, you get your podcast, you get everything in here. When you're working hard, are you working hard on on on the right things? Do you have the skill set? You know, I get people that have read the books and so forth, and they'd be like, "Man, you know, this book, I'm 30 years old. I know I had a dream of uh going to the NBA. I I only played in elementary school." That

and it ain't happening, dude. What What should I What should I What should I do? I was like, "Don't do it."

Yeah. Oh, you're being negative to Don't do it. Don't do you trying to doubt me to give me some fuel, right?

You know, take take that same energy and put it into some into something else. Now, can can you pos can you possibly do that? That that that's what that's what it is. All right. Well, it's just like this work this

Well, we eventually all have to have an honest conversation about what our natural propensity for skill set is. You had to you play college basketball. Yes. You didn't you didn't you didn't you had to come to a time where Tim had to say to himself, uh, this has a limit for where I'm going to go. But

I was a a sophomore or I think I was a sophomore, junior in college. I played a a junior in high school, man. That dude kicked my ass. He up and down. I played him one-on-one, man. Up and down the court. Up and down the court. Up and down the court. I like I like Yeah. Okay. Yeah. He and

he eventually ended up going pro. Had a great had a great career. Was a client of mine at at some at some point in his career. But I was just like you you got to be you got to be real realistic about your like you said what your what what your skill set is what your skill set is and what you're capable of doing. And here's the one thing now on TV and on social media and everything that's out there, you get to see how talented individuals really really are.

Yeah. The best. You see some of the skill sets of individuals on, you know, on these America's Got Talent or whatever the show is or whatever's got here and you look at these individuals, the dancers, the singers and so forth and these people, they're just trying to make it. Do you get to see the artist some of the you know if you stop looking at all all the [ __ ] that's on your phone and you look at some of the artistic talent that people have and how creative they are and uh your level of expertise and competition now is exponentially higher because there's so much exposure out there. So what you thought was hard work may not be hard work anymore.

That's right. And also, you know, when we think about like the outcomes that we're after, usually pre people have pretty ambitious outcomes, which is great, but you have to realize like for every single person you see on America's Got Talent, there's a thousand more just like them that didn't make it.

Yeah. Okay. So, you got to be honest with yourself, but not not in a pessimistic way, in an honest way. Right. There's lots of people, I'm one of them, that did not have natural skill set for certain things. Okay? I was not naturally good with people. I was not naturally good at speaking. These are skills I developed over repetition, repetition repetition. But if I had decided that I wanted to play pro basketball, it doesn't matter how hard I worked. It doesn't matter how many drills I had. It doesn't matter who I hired as my coach. Guess what? It ain't happening.

So people hide. Look, winners are going to win regardless. they're going to figure out a way to you have to be very honest with yourself. Are you not winning because you can't win or are you not winning because you haven't been doing it long enough? Or are you not winning because you haven't learned the skill set yet? Okay. But if the winning that you're after requires you to run a 4240 and you're 300 lb, it ain't happening. Yeah. So, you got to be honest about yourself in your assessment of where you're strong, where you're weak, where could you be great, and then you have to develop an outcome that allows you to get there with what would be considered some of your maybe gifts, but they're not everybody's very few people h have a quote unquote a gift that doesn't have to be nurtured and developed, right?

Like we get caught up in this language of, oh, that guy's gifted. That guy's gifted. Yes. But they also put in thousands upon thousands of hours to developing that gift right?

It's almost disrespectful to just say, "Yeah, yeah, it's very disrespect. You're a gifted speaker." It's like, "What the [ __ ] you talking about? I haven't spent

It's one We just talked about this on the other show. It's one of my most annoying pet peeves of people.

It's like there because there's nothing casual about winning, bro. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. People who win are obsessed with winning. And when you come in and you think that you can do half their work or uh learn half their skills or you're going to find a way around that, you got to realize that's an ego problem with you. You think you're better than you actually are, which is keeping you from getting where you want to go. And so there's all different kinds of ways to think about this. And I think most people are hiding in their assessments of themselves.

And what I mean by that is this. This person here says, "Oh, I've been working for years and I'm I'm not I'm not I'm not there. So

you notice he didn't say how many years." Years. Yeah. Was that one? Is that one and a half years?

He didn't say he didn't say how many years. He said that 10 years. Okay. New year. Like here,

bro. It took me 10 years to make over $100,000. 10 years. 10 years. Okay. Tell yourself the truth.

Are you really after that outcome? Are you pouring everything that you could into it? Are you learning every skill along the way? And if you still have been doing it for 10 years and that's an honest answer, you probably should be doing something else.

Something else. You don't have the talent for whatever you're doing, right? But that's super rare

unless it's like something like athletically or musically inclined, right? Like I used to have this guitar teacher

and dude, he he was amazing. Joe knows him. And we would play songs that I wanted to learn that he had never he was a jazz guy. He liked jazz. So I'd play him songs that he had never heard and he'd [ __ ] play them back. Like I'd play the song one time, he'd play them back. And I'm like, and I remember I was sitting there one time and I was like, "Dude, you are so talented." And he [ __ ] stopped right there. Stopped right there. And he goes, "I've been," he was 52 years old at the time. He goes, "I've been playing guitar since I was 8 years old." He goes, "I have tens of thousands of hours sitting here with this instrument. This isn't talent.

I worked for this." And it like he was serious dude. Oh, he was hot. And I was like, I never said that about anybody ever again. Yeah. Because I was discounting the work he had put in.

Yeah. And he was upset about it. And I I never made that mistake ever again. You see some of the greatest bass players, guitar players in the bands and the way they be you just you you're mesmerized by it. But they they've been doing it for

for decades. Decades. For decad. And they still practice it as though it's their first day.

That's right. and they're still trying to get better. They're still trying to figure out. They know they they've never hit perfection. They're always ch they're constantly chasing perfection knowing they're never going to catch it. But that's what it is. They're always looking for that that that per that perfect song, that perfect string, that perfect everything and the obsession to constantly get better and get better and get better. But what you said, it's a years and years and they've had the tal they've had the tal they've had the talent, they're willing to improve and so forth. What do you you know just working hard is not I could sit here all day and I could dedicate the rest of my life to say okay I'm gonna whatever it is if I don't have the if I don't have the ability to talent if I'm not good at it doesn't m it doesn't matter

or the time it doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah. I mean dude you could you could create a lot more skill set when you're 20 than you can when you're 60.

Yeah. You just have more time. So the fact that this person is young that's a good thing. All right.

A great thing. But we have to be real about this, dude. This is not Greatness is not an accident. It It really isn't. And it's painted as if it is, but it's not. You just don't see the things that go into it. So, you assume it's magical. Like whenever I my buddy Matthew, the guitar guy, that's magical to me. I was like, "How the did anybody do that?" Like, I couldn't believe it. But I wasn't there for the the 40s something years that he 42 years or whatever it was that he played.

So what is magic? Magic isn't what you see. It's what you don't see, man. There you go.

It's what you don't see. So when that person has that magical skill, that magical talent, that magic makes that magical shot. It's it's what it's all the hours. It's what you don't It's what you don't see. A magician isn't everybody. It's what the magician doesn't show you what makes things ma ma what ma makes things magical.

And I I I think too dude you could become pretty good. It's [ __ ] like if I started today if I started playing guitar today okay I haven't played in a number of years. If I started today let's just say I never played before and I played every single day and I did that for five or six years. I could go play in a band.

Oh yeah. I I could be in a band. Okay. But I'm not gonna be the Rolling Stones. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Yeah. Right. I'm not gonna be Jimmy Hendricks, bro. Like, so we have to be real about these things. And the internet wants to like make everything seem like it's everything can be done. There's actual real constraints to your achievement that if you're not aware of will keep you from achieving anything.

Yeah. So to this person, okay, we don't know how long they've been doing it. We don't know, you know, they say, "Oh, I've been working hard." But for example, like an operator standard, we have this, we have a power list system, right?

You could plug in the wrong [ __ ] every day on your power list and win your days.

But that doesn't mean it's going to produce the outcome you're after. You have to have the awareness to know what the critical tasks are that move you towards that goal. Right. So, we can get caught up in this idea of working hard without, like Tim said, working hard on the right things. And that is a huge difference.

I was going to ask you guys on that note, right? Like from your experience, how many of those how how many people would you say that you know? Yes. Okay. Let's let's let's let's hit check the box. They're working hard, but they're not working hard on the right thing.

Yeah. It's time to upgrade your oil ring, man. That thing don't fit no more. Huh? No, it's just a little rubber. Oh, it's there.

I'm just checking. I'm just messing with DJ's down 100 since he met you. I know that always.

Oh, Tiff checks in on me, right? I know. Checks in on me. I know. Uh, but no, I mean, so

he almost came down here and beat your ass one time, bro. He did. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. He did.

Um, I wasn't going to beat his ass. I'd bring other people that would help him.

I at my age, I He got punched by Michael Jordan, man. I I I had to pull DJ aside. I say, "Hey, bro. Let me tell you something."

Authority. Let me tell you something. There's only a few people that you better text back.

And he's one of them. That's right. Um, no. But but let me let me ask you guys this on on the topic of, you know, let's check the box. They're working hard. Okay, there's not a question. Okay, you're working hard. You're just a little off like you're off target, maybe not on the right thing.

How what how would you guys like what would you guys say? Like is that the majority of people? They're just a little off from target or is it like

are we assuming that they actually work hard? Actually work hard. Okay. So, we're assuming they actually work hard.

Actually work hard. You're you're asking out of the people who don't achieve what they want to achieve, but they actually work hard, what's the problem,

right? Are they just a little off or for most people, they're probably really far off?

I think most people lack a self-awareness. Yeah. I think most people don't have the ability to coach themselves.

Yeah. I think the greatest people in the world have the ability to coach themselves. I don't think they attach emotions to their performance. You know, like when you talk to someone like, "Okay, I'm a bad loser. I hate losing. And for about 20 minutes after I lose, do not talk to me.

Okay. But after that 20 minutes, I'm able to sit down and I'm able to say, "Okay, why' I lose?

What did I do wrong?" You were able to break it down, right? What did I do wrong? How could I do it better? What needs to happen next time so I don't get like this again? That's a skill that a lot of people don't have. And I I've always been able I've been very fortunate and I think you know growing up around my dad really helped me with [snorts] this

because I can remember one time I was wrestling and my dad will tell this story but I had to wrestle this dude who like he never he this guy never lost a match in high school ever. He played in the NFL and um I had to wrestle this dude and I remember we were at wrestling and and I was a heavyweight. Okay. So

we could have guessed that. Yeah. No [ __ ] So So back in my day in wrestling when you were a heavyweight, you got a lot of forfeits. All right.

Which means they didn't have a heavyweight. So like I look around and you know you look around the room for the other fat guy. All right. And you're like, "All right, where's the fat guy?" All right.

No fat guy. Good. So I'm w we're at this wrestling weigh in and I'm looking around. There's no [ __ ] fat guy. But you still have to weigh in. Okay. So, I get on the scale and dude, I used to get like super nervous before wrestling.

I didn't get nervous for any sport except wrestling because dude, there's no [ __ ] hiding. It's you

and that other dude and everybody's watching. All right. So, I remember I'm like I I get on the scale and I'm all calm and [ __ ] and my coach looks at me and he's like he's like, "Man, what's what's gotten into you?" And I'm like, "What do you mean?" And and I'm like, "They don't you know what what do you mean?" And he's like and as he's like telling me this like there's three of their coaches standing there and their coach starts taking off of their clothes and and he's [ __ ] yolked and I'm like looking at my coach and I'm like why is their coach getting on the scale and it turns out this was their guy. Okay, this guy's like 240.

I mean dude he played tailback in the NFL so you know what the [ __ ] he's just one of them guys.

You thought it was a coach. Yeah, I thought it was a [ __ ] coach. And I got terrified, bro. I was like, so I went out there. I I lost. I did okay, but I lost. And I was so pissed off on the way home when I lost. And my dad was like laughing at me. He's like, "First of all, let me tell you something. Nobody expected you to win." Okay, let's just start right there. Second off, why'd you lose? And we went through the whole thing, right? And so my dad was always very good at like breaking down the losses when I it wasn't ever, you know, we we celebrate the wins. Sure. Okay.

But way more valuable when I lost. Like if if we had a football game, you know, we would break down like not in a film way, but he would take all the bad plays. He say, "What happened there? What happened here? What happened there?" Right? And that taught me at a very young age how to do that to break down and coach myself.

And the highest achievers and I I would be interested to see if this is common with

I already know what he's going to say. Yeah. They they do it themselves. And and then then like like like bro like when I've had problems before and I've called you I already knew the problem. You already know.

I called Tim and I said, "Hey man, uh this what's going on?" Blah blah blah. What do you think? He's like, "Yeah, you're [ __ ] right. this. So like the the highest achievers have an awareness that's not emotional. They might look emotional in the moment.

They might get pissed off when they lose. They might break [ __ ] but eventually they calm down and they're like, "All right, here's what happens."

They've had so many conversations with themselves like you said, they can they can self I I would have before I could point something wrong, they would already say, "I already know.

Already got it." I think that's a common amongst amongst the highest level winners in anything.

Yeah. You know, that's why coaches always say they're the easiest to coach. You know what the common factor you talk

and people think that because what they think when they say that is that guy's so good. I don't have to coach him. No, that's not what it is.

No. And you know Tom so um uh there was a thing I just saw on um Tom Brady and I know we're going a little bit off subject. He's just said he could look at a playbook once

and know it. I know it. Like an NFL playbook. NFL play. He goes, "I know every Yeah. But dude, if you look at Tom Brady and you look at his background and you look where he came from and you look how he was drafted, he wasn't a star anywhere, dude. So what happened to him? He had this is my outcome. This is where I want to be. What do I have to do to get there? Well, I'm not the fastest. I don't have the best arm. I can play,

right? So, I gotta be smarter and I gotta learn the game and I got to be technically perfect.

Yes. And that's this is dude the the the guys who win over and over and over. They are those guys.

That's working hard on the right things. You see what I'm saying? So, he's I'm listen I'm not going to I'm not going to be the fastest quarterback. I'm not going to be able to do this. I don't I got a decent arm. I got this. But, you know what? the ability for me to process information, recognize situations, lead lead a team, being able to know know not only my playbook, but the opponent's playbook after I see it. There you go,

bro. And and dude, let's be real about this. This is the truth. The most talented people rarely win. It's the guys with some talent. It's the guys with some ability. Because here's what happens. These dudes that have this gift that we all call talent, maybe they run a 4140 or maybe they jump 70 inches or whatever the [ __ ] it is. They l they they they what happens is they end up relying on that.

Okay. Not reading the playbook. No, that's right, bro. There's a very famous story about Jammarcus Russell about not reading the playbook. Jammarcus Russell, you remember Jamarcus Russell? Number one draft pick in the NFL. He's supposed to be the greatest quarterback ever because physically he was. He was 65, 280, ran fast, threw beat, no one could touch him. So, he gets drafted number one and and he goes out on the field and and the the Raiders are he got drafted by the Raiders and they're like, "This guy's pretty good."

So, he refused to read the playbooks. Okay. And they were pretty sure that he wasn't reading the playbook. So they gave him a playbook that didn't have any plays in it.

Oh man. And they told him to go home and read it. He came back the next day. He's like, "Yeah, I [ __ ] it." And if you don't know about NFL history, Jamarcus Russell's one of the biggest busts in the history of NFL. No offense if he's listening, but you were okay. But he could have not been if he was slightly less physically gifted. He probably would have realized I have to do all of these other things. So, a lot of the people that you look at and you say, "Oh man, that guy's great. That guy's great at what he does." It's not because they're the most talented, it's because they had a little bit of talent, but they were willing to do all the [ __ ] that goes with it. And like, dude, if we look at like, dude, Michael Jordan's the same way, is he not? Talent is a gift.

It's not a promise. And people think it's a people think it's a promise. So, another story that you want to that um Derrick Henry, so when he got to um when he got to Alabama with Nick Sabin, you know, they had all these intricate plays to run and all that and he was totally lost. And then it was like he goes and the Nick goes up to him and goes, "What's he goes in high school?" He goes, "They gave me the ball and they said, "Go run that. Go run to the other end." He goes, "That's all." He goes, "They gave me the ball." Said, "Go run to the other end."

Cuz he was just physically stunned. Yeah. just like nobody nobody could stop nobody could stop him. Now he knew at the next level and the coaching knew at the next level that wasn't going to be enough. So he started to had all the has all the talent, had the speed, the power, everything. You know, it's legendary, but he was willing to start working on the things that he needed to work on in order to be this dude.

Yeah. He the he just wasn't relying on his so-called gifts. And now look at him. Yeah, bro. He's one of my favorite players. And you know why? Because he runs and he's physical and he's big and he's faster than everybody, but he's gotten better as his career has gone on.

And that's a testament to what you're talking about, Tim. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway,

well, dude, I love it, man. This was great guys. Yeah. Tim, dude, thank you so much for coming in.

Always an honor, guys. Thank you. So, my It's always a pleasure. It's great to sit with you two individuals and just chop it up. And like I said, I always I come out of the one of the reasons I do this is honestly I I take away so much from this, you know, I'm just not here just spewing information. I'm gathering information how I can be how I can be better and how I can make other better. I'm 61.

Look at this guy. Yeah. Oh, look at him. Oh, I see him, bro. No, that's a high standard man right there, bro.

And I'm not ashamed to tell him. You know, people I when people ask me how old I am, I tell them exactly what I don't hide from my age. I always say I'm not old. I'm seasoned. I'm seasoned. I'm not I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid to tell. I'm not I don't hide. I I I don't I I don't hide. And there's the thing. I am more determined now on certain things. Listen, I may not be able to do things as fast as I as I were as I was, but my determination and the things I still want to accomplish and and it starts if I don't There's um old Saturday Night Live clip with um I'm trying to think of his uh his the comedian's name. Oh man. But you know, it says

back in that black and white days, huh? Huh? It's it's going it's going it's going it's going it's going way it's going way back. How you feel about yourself and how you look matters. I it it really it really does. Especially as you get as you get older.

Well, you're crushing it, dude. It it re it really does. It's very important. Do I do I wake up every single morning say, "Yeah, let me go to the gym." No. You know, it's I got to talk myself into it, but when I when I get there, I'm like, "I'm not going to waste my time." And you know, obviously it can turn into a social setting. And there's a certain I set a time once I get in I have to be in here and I got to be out of here. It's a lot of times I guess I don't have time for conversation.

The best part about Tim is when you say when you tell him I worked out for two hours. The you did

just when you work out, you have the gym to yourself, right? Sometimes it's just you two, but other than that, you're in there like this is my time. I got, you know, I got to finish during this and I got I got to get the hell out I got to get the hell out of there.

Yeah, man. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Listen, it's It's a Listen, man. I hope that sometimes you stop and think about how many people you've actually helped.

Oh, thank you. Because it it is it is it's not just the Michael Jordans. It's not just the Bryce Harpers. You're helping real people do real [ __ ] And I know we don't always see it,

but I hear it all the time. All the time from people. So, uh, and part Hey, I want to say thank you, too. part of we're going back on the physical thing. The support from first form whatever I asked for them it's literally it's there with under in less than 24 hours.

Yeah. But the rest of you got to pay. Okay. But there Yeah. But there there listen nothing comes for nothing come nothing comes nothing comes for free. All right. I don't because

actually I think you are you do pay. I I am ba I am blessed to have to get the products that I that that I get, but I don't take it

I don't take that lightly. I give back. I give back. Tim, you you've been giving back forever man.

And I'm going to I'm going to continue. It's the only way. It's the only way I know how.

It's the only way. It's the only way I know how. We appreciate you, brother. I appreciate you guys, too, man.

Hell yeah, man. Well, yeah, guys. Andy, Tim, that is all I have. All right, guys. We'll see you tonight. 7 o'clock today. You got plenty more, but this is all for today.

All right, 7:00 p.m. tonight. YouTube X, Twitter, whatever you want to call it. We'll see you there. Don't be a hoe. Show the show.

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Most People Don't Understand This About Winning Ft. Tim Grover - Ep 996 Q&AF"?

Andy Frisella (Host), Tim Grover (Guest).

What is "Most People Don't Understand This About Winning Ft. Tim Grover - Ep 996 Q&AF" about?

Tim Grover emphasizes that winning requires an obsession and unwavering commitment, arguing that success is not accidental but the result of unseen hard work and dedication. He challenges the notion that greatness can be achieved through shortcuts, urging individuals to confront their egos and recognize the hidden efforts behind high-level achievements.

What is mentioned in this Andy Frisella episode?

7 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Andy Forcella, Tim Grover, 75 Hard, The Book on Mental Toughness, Relentless, First Form. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Most People Don't Understand This About Winning Ft. Tim Grover - Ep 996 Q&AF"?

The episode runs 1 h 1 min; the transcript is about 12,094 words in 192 timestamped sections.

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About this transcript: the episode's spoken words as captioned on YouTube, split into timestamped sections. Reclip.Me locates every person, work and idea in the text, keeps the time it is first named, and quotes the words around it verbatim. Last updated February 3, 2026.