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FROM SUPERBOWL WINNER IN ROOKIE YEAR: TO NFL AGENT || ROY LEWIS || EPISODE 066

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October 23, 2025 · 1 h 8 min · 14,484 words · 258 timestamped sections

This is the full, timestamped transcript of "FROM SUPERBOWL WINNER IN ROOKIE YEAR: TO NFL AGENT || ROY LEWIS || EPISODE 066", an episode of Code To Winning published October 23, 2025 (1 h 8 min, about 14,484 words). It mentions 239 people, works and ideas, including Roy Lewis, Roy Lewis, Roy Lewis, Roy Lewis, Roy Lewis.

What this episode is about

Roy Lewis reflects on his journey from a late start in football during middle school to winning a Super Bowl as a rookie with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He discusses the pivotal mindset shifts that fueled his rise from high school standout to NFL player, and shares insights into the intense atmosphere and dedication required to achieve success at the highest level of professional sports.

Key takeaways

Perception becomes reality when skill silences doubt—no seventh grade jitters here.
Steelers rock: even janitors scout talent faster than hiccups on caffeine.
Black belt at ten: mastered body awareness before learning football alphabet.
Football agent evolution: turns game passion into boardroom blitz.
From T-ball to Super Bowl: every pro’s past starts with playground poses.

Who speaks in this episode?

KG (Host) · 24 min speaking
Roy Lewis (Guest) · 44 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

0:00 – 10:00: Pittsburgh Steelers, NFL, NFL, Roy Lewis
10:00 – 20:00: Super Bowl, Tomlin, James Harrison, Coach Tomlin
20:00 – 30:00: Barack Obama, White House, Barack Obama, Barack Obama
30:00 – 40:00: NFL, Financial Literacy, Cameron Foster, NFLPA
40:00 – 50:00: Financial Literacy, NFL, Super Bowl, Cameron Foster
50:00 – 1:00:00: Richard Sherman, All American, All-American, All American
1:00:00 – 1:08:12: Roy Lewis, Roy Lewis, Roy Lewis, Roy Lewis

Notable quotes from "FROM SUPERBOWL WINNER IN ROOKIE YEAR: TO NFL AGENT || ROY LEWIS || EPISODE 066"

So to go into depth man to be honest I had never experienced anything like what I experienced my rookie year in Pittsburgh with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
about Roy Lewis · at 1:16
Learning a bit more about what happens behind the scenes of sports, I have the man in the studio today, NFL champion, literally Super Bowl champion as well. played for both the…
about Roy Lewis · at 2:34
Lost the last couple games and I was just All right, that's it. getting to Pittsburgh with Coach Tomlin, he revitalized me instantly. It was like a family from the owners, Mr.…
about Roy Lewis · at 8:40
No, I don't. But Coach Tomlin is Coach Tomlin is not a man of many words in that regard. Coach Tom is a professional. He teaches you how to be he teaches men how to be men. Period.
about Coach Tomlin · at 18:20
I set out to do it. My personal my own former agent, excuse me, a gentleman by the name of Cameron Foster out of Seattle area. range sports, foster former foster kidney easily…
about Cameron Foster · at 28:27
I'm an NFL lifetime PA member. I'm a players player. I stay connected. I work well within the NFLPA community out here in Phoenix. We have a great chapter. we have men and…
about NFLPA · at 34:34
Kids are walking into the NFL with more than a half a million dollars in their bank accounts right now and maybe not the financial literacy to manage it. You see what I mean? So.
about Financial Literacy · at 37:56
Possible now. And again, there was a human component. We get that. But the NFL is doing a great job as far as taking care of young men post and like I said, transitioning and…
about NFL · at 45:42

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

Roy Lewis — Person · Main guest · 5 mentions · first at 1:21
Former NFL player and Super Bowl champion describing Steelers culture under Mike Tomlin and his transition into being a football/NFL agent.
Roy Lewis — Person · Main guest · 5 mentions · first at 1:21
Primary interview subject; discusses his path from youth sports to NFL (Steelers/Seahawks), Super Bowl culture under Mike Tomlin, and his transition into being a football/NFLPA-certified agent.
So to go into depth man to be honest I had never experienced anything like what I experienced my rookie year in Pittsburgh with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Roy Lewis — Person · Main guest · 5 mentions · first at 1:21
Primary interview subject: former NFL player (Steelers/Seahawks) describing rookie-year Steelers culture, Super Bowl run, and his transition into being an NFL agent.
So to go into depth man to be honest I had never experienced anything like what I experienced my rookie year in Pittsburgh with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Roy Lewis — Person · Main guest · 5 mentions · first at 1:21
Primary interview subject: former NFL player/Super Bowl champion discussing Steelers culture, mentorship, and his transition into being an NFL agent.
So to go into depth man to be honest I had never experienced anything like what I experienced my rookie year in Pittsburgh with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Roy Lewis — Person · Main guest · 5 mentions · first at 1:21
Primary interview subject: former NFL player and Super Bowl champion discussing Steelers culture, mentorship, and his transition into being an NFL agent.
So to go into depth man to be honest I had never experienced anything like what I experienced my rookie year in Pittsburgh with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Roy Lewis — Person · Main guest · 4 mentions · first at 3:02
Primary interview subject — former NFL player (Super Bowl champion) who discusses his playing career, transition to being an NFL/football agent, mentorship, and player welfare.
Roy Lewis — Person · Main guest · 4 mentions · first at 3:02
Primary interview subject: former NFL player (Steelers/Seahawks) reflecting on rookie-year culture under Mike Tomlin and explaining his transition into being a football/NFLPA-certified agent.
Roy Lewis — Person · Main guest · 3 mentions · first at 3:02
Primary interview subject: former NFL player (Steelers/Seahawks) and current NFLPA-certified agent discussing Steelers culture, Super Bowl run, and his transition into representation.
So to go into depth man to be honest I had never experienced anything like what I experienced my rookie year in Pittsburgh with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Curtis Wayne Wright — Person · Former NFL player and football agent · 1 mention · first at 2:10
KJ Wright is a notable figure in the NFL and is referenced in the context of the guest's journey and experiences.
KJ, I think everybody wants to still be connected. Deal. I wanted to still be connected to the game. It was such a big part of my life. It still is a big part of my life. My son played.
Coach Tomlin — Person · 4 mentions · first at 1:34
Tomlin — Person · 5 mentions · first at 1:33
That successful. I remember we lost the last couple games and I was just All right. Said, Getting to Pittsburgh, Coach Tomlin, he revitalized me instantly. It was like a family…
Cameron Foster — Person · Referenced mentor / former agent · 3 mentions · first at 28:31
Named by Roy Lewis as a key mentor and his former agent who encouraged Roy to become an agent; described as an experienced agent from the Seattle area.
Mike Tomlin — Person · Referenced expert · 2 mentions · first at 1:34
Head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers during Roy Lewis's time, mentioned for his leadership.
No, I don't. But Coach Tomlin is Coach Tomlin is not a man of many words in that regard. Coach Tom is a professional. He teaches you how to be he teaches men how to be men. Period.
Kevin G. (KG) — Person · Former NFL player (Pittsburgh Steelers), potential interview subject referenced as KG · 1 mention
Ambiguity of initials could refer to a specific individual; needs clear identification and corroborating context
Really good. And then it went so then I started to dominate the games in high school. I would say KG I think what happened was my mentality shifted and it was like all my…
James Harrison — Person · Referenced expert · 3 mentions · first at 17:01
Former teammate at Pittsburgh Steelers, mentioned for a memorable play in the Super Bowl.
At halftime, we went in to halftime ahead because James Harrison caught the interception right before halftime. 106 yard, I believe, interception. on the goal line. Yeah, we're getting ready to blitz and Debo he.
Barack Obama — Person · Referenced public figure (U.S. President) · 3 mentions · first at 24:26
Mentioned in connection with the Steelers’ White House visit after the Super Bowl and a community service event; used to highlight the scale of the experience.
Current and active military men. And we just did it like assembly line style. M and Obama President Barack Obama walked around and shook every single hand, took every single…
Art Rooney — Person · Referenced owner / culture symbol · 2 mentions · first at 1:40
Represents Steelers ownership and organizational culture; described as personally knowing everyone who wore a Steelers uniform and tied to the Rooney Rule legacy.
All right. Said, Getting to Pittsburgh, Coach Tomlin, he revitalized me instantly. It was like a family from the owners, Mr. Rooney, all the way down to the maintenance man, the fabric.
Ben Roethlisberger — Person · Referenced expert · 1 mention · first at 18:50
Former teammate at Pittsburgh Steelers, mentioned in the context of the Super Bowl.
Yeah, Big Ben. That was, that's his team. he had just came off of the 2005 Super Bowl versus the Seattle Seahawks in Detroit at the Motor City Classic. Remember.
Big Ben — Person · Referenced player · 1 mention · first at 18:50
Nickname for Ben Roethlisberger, mentioned in the context of the Steelers' success.
Yeah, Big Ben. That was, that's his team. he had just came off of the 2005 Super Bowl versus the Seattle Seahawks in Detroit at the Motor City Classic. Remember.
Mario Balotelli — Person · Anecdotal reference · 1 mention · first at 39:17
Mentioned in a humorous story about soccer.
Experienced? Like the crazy ones that make the best experiences cuz just to, summarize the story, there was a striker he had, Mario Balotelli. And that's my guy with the gold mohawk from Italy.
Jason Dillard — Person · Referenced mentor / first agent · 1 mention · first at 49:04
Named by Roy as his very first agent (JD) who attended the Super Bowl with him and served as an early mentor in his career.
Well, yeah, I'll name him first. It's Jason Dillard or JD and then he's out of Sacramento. I was my very first agent. It's my agent I took to the Super Bowl with me. Him and my…
Steve Weinberg — Person · Referenced mentor (agent industry veteran) · 1 mention · first at 49:34
Cited as a highly experienced agent mentor (40th/41st draft) and early NFLPA-certified agent, providing guidance and ‘skip steps’ knowledge.
His 35th draft. He's been doing it for a long time. Another gentleman that I have that's a mentor of mine, Steve Weinberg.
Steve Weinberg — Person · Referenced mentor/industry veteran (sports agent) · 1 mention · first at 49:34
Cited as a long-tenured agent and mentor providing institutional knowledge and practical guidance (contacts, process) for a newer agent.
His 35th draft. He's been doing it for a long time. Another gentleman that I have that's a mentor of mine, Steve Weinberg.
Steve Weinberg — Person · Referenced mentor (agent industry veteran) · 1 mention · first at 49:34
Presented as a long-tenured NFL agent mentor (40th/41st draft) who provides industry guidance and institutional knowledge to Roy as a newer agent.
His 35th draft. He's been doing it for a long time. Another gentleman that I have that's a mentor of mine, Steve Weinberg.
Steve Weinberg — Person · Referenced mentor (agent industry veteran) · 1 mention · first at 49:34
Named as a long-tenured mentor in the agent business (40th/41st draft), providing institutional knowledge and guidance to Roy as a newer agent.
His 35th draft. He's been doing it for a long time. Another gentleman that I have that's a mentor of mine, Steve Weinberg.
Barack Obama — Person · Referenced public figure (White House visit) · 3 mentions · first at 24:26
Referenced in connection with the Steelers’ post–Super Bowl White House visit early in his presidency; used to highlight a memorable life experience and community service event.
Current and active military men. And we just did it like assembly line style. M and Obama President Barack Obama walked around and shook every single hand, took every single…
Barack Obama — Person · Referenced public figure (U.S. President) · 3 mentions · first at 24:26
Appears in a story about the Steelers visiting the White House after the Super Bowl; used to illustrate a memorable life experience and Obama’s demeanor.
Current and active military men. And we just did it like assembly line style. M and Obama President Barack Obama walked around and shook every single hand, took every single…
Barack Obama — Person · Referenced public figure (White House visit story) · 3 mentions · first at 24:26
Appears in a story about the Steelers visiting the White House after the Super Bowl and doing a care-package service project; used to highlight a memorable life experience.
Current and active military men. And we just did it like assembly line style. M and Obama President Barack Obama walked around and shook every single hand, took every single…
Ryan Clark — Person · Referenced teammate/veteran mentor · 2 mentions · first at 10:05
Mentioned as a veteran who mentored Roy Lewis and as part of Steelers’ defensive identity; also referenced as a current ESPN personality.
Mentality. everyone looked out for me. Troy looked out for me. Ike, Ryan Clark that you see daily on ESPN. these are all like older brothers, that would just took me underneath my wing and showed me this is how you survive in the NFL.
Phil Collins — Person · Referenced cultural touchstone · 1 mention · first at 15:05
Referenced as music the team used during Super Bowl preparations (visualization/music ritual before game).
Closed our eyes and just start vibing to Phil Collins, and it was just Are you hear that? I can feel it coming in tonight.
Jose Mourinho — Person · Anecdotal reference · 1 mention · first at 38:54
Mentioned in a humorous soccer story.
Steve Weinberg — Person · Mentor · 1 mention · first at 49:34
Mentioned as a mentor in the agent profession.
His 35th draft. He's been doing it for a long time. Another gentleman that I have that's a mentor of mine, Steve Weinberg.
Steve Weinberg — Person · Referenced mentor (agent industry veteran) · 1 mention · first at 49:34
Cited as a long-tenured NFL agent mentor ("40th or 41st draft"), used as an example of learning from experienced practitioners.
His 35th draft. He's been doing it for a long time. Another gentleman that I have that's a mentor of mine, Steve Weinberg.
Steve Weinberg — Person · Referenced mentor (agent industry veteran) · 1 mention · first at 49:34
Cited as a long-tenured agent mentor (40th/41st draft) and early NFLPA-certified agent, illustrating Roy’s reliance on experienced guidance.
His 35th draft. He's been doing it for a long time. Another gentleman that I have that's a mentor of mine, Steve Weinberg.
Steve Weinberg — Person · Referenced mentor (agent industry veteran) · 1 mention · first at 49:34
Named as a long-tenured agent mentor ("40th or 41st draft"), used to illustrate Roy’s reliance on experienced guidance in the agent business.
His 35th draft. He's been doing it for a long time. Another gentleman that I have that's a mentor of mine, Steve Weinberg.
Richard Sherman — Person · Referenced player · 1 mention · first at 55:03
Mentioned as a player who represented himself.
Have you noticed in recent years if a player has enough status, he can represent himself? Look at Richard Sherman. I love Sherman. It's my dog.
Christian Pulisic — Person · Referenced athlete (current US soccer star) · 7 mentions
Referenced as a likely ‘LeBron of soccer’ figure for Team USA; mentioned as playing for AC Milan, in the soccer discussion.
Barack Obama — Person · Referenced public figure (President) · 3 mentions · first at 24:26
Appears in a story about the Steelers visiting the White House after the Super Bowl; used to illustrate a memorable life experience and service event.
Current and active military men. And we just did it like assembly line style. M and Obama President Barack Obama walked around and shook every single hand, took every single…
Larry Fitzgerald — Person · 2 mentions · first at 17:23
Play once in a lifetime player. He caught he catches the ball in the end zone from Kurt Warner. Larry Fitzgerald, I don't know.
Dennis Schroder — Person · 2 mentions

Companies & orgs

NFL — Company · Organization discussed · 4 mentions · first at 0:57
Central to the discussion as the professional league where Roy Lewis played and now works as an agent.
Pittsburgh Steelers — Company · Referenced team / formative organization · 7 mentions · first at 0:59
Roy Lewis describes his rookie year and cultural experience with the Steelers; many stories and lessons reference the organization and its people (Coach Tomlin, Mr. Rooney, Hall of Famers).
All right. Said, Getting to Pittsburgh, Coach Tomlin, he revitalized me instantly. It was like a family from the owners, Mr. Rooney, all the way down to the maintenance man, the fabric.
Seattle Seahawks — Company · Former team · 2 mentions · first at 2:47
Another team Roy Lewis played for, mentioned in the context of his NFL career.
Man in the studio today, NFL champion, literally Super Bowl champion as well. played for both the Pittsburgh Steelers and the team from Seattle. I'm joking, the Seahawks.
NFLPA — Company · Referenced organization / player association · 1 mention · first at 34:34
Mentioned as part of the player support ecosystem Roy engages with (certification, resources, community chapters).
University of Washington — Company · Alma mater · 2 mentions · first at 1:26
Roy Lewis's college, mentioned in the context of his transition to the NFL.
At defense, just the team, just the energy. Coming from the University of Washington my senior year, we weren't that successful. I remember we lost the last couple games and I was just All right. Said, Getting to.
NFL Trust — Company · Resource provider · 1 mention · first at 43:42
Mentioned as a resource for NFL players' transition and wellness.
And then in the 2012 CBA. and now we're in the 2020 to 2030 CBA. But we've done a better job. The NFL trust has come in as a liaison between the NFL players union and the NFL…
NCAA — Company · Regulatory body · 38 mentions
Mentioned in the context of NIL deals and college sports.
Much regulation with the NIO. there's there's starting to be more, but yeah, they just had a new settlement, of course. You probably heard about that with the $2.8 billion…
MLB — Company · Comparative reference · 4 mentions
Mentioned in the context of sports leagues and player contracts.
NBA — Company · Comparative reference · 4 mentions
Mentioned in the context of sports leagues and player contracts.
Man United — Company · Cultural reference · 1 mention · first at 41:24
Mentioned in the context of soccer fandom.
Yeah been like Beckham. Now he's killed my team a few times because I'm Man United.
Man City — Company · Cultural reference · 1 mention · first at 41:25
Mentioned in the context of soccer fandom.
He was Man City, so they beat us 6-1 with the whole why me kind of thing.
Bayern Munich — Company · Cultural reference · 1 mention · first at 41:38
Mentioned in the context of soccer fandom.
I like Bayern Munich. I like the Wendowski, you know what I mean? I like some of the older players when I was growing up watching, but I grew up.
LA Galaxy — Company · Cultural reference · 1 mention · first at 41:45
Mentioned in the context of soccer fandom.
You know what I mean? I like some of the older players when I was growing up watching, but I grew up watching of course the LA Galaxy just Kobe Jones.
AC Milan — Company · Cultural reference · 1 mention · first at 42:22
Mentioned in the context of soccer fandom.
Somewhere. He's yet to be found, but he's probably Christian Pulus. Just one guy that plays in Europe, AC Milan.
Premier League — Company · 2 mentions · first at 41:31
Oh yeah, I do remember that. That is on my bucket list to go to a Premier League game or to go to a European soccer game.
Pop Warner — Company · 1 mention · first at 4:23
So, in seventh grade, there's a group of young men, my middle school, and they played Pop Warner. And Pop Warner at that time was kind of clicky.
Ohio State — Company · 1 mention · first at 5:42
Gentlemen who were already there. I found like OVH tapes and I would just watch like players from like Ohio State back in the day, Chris Gamble, Kiwan Ratliff from Florida…
Buffalo Bills — Company · 1 mention · first at 12:15
Remember him speaking to the team before my third preseason game. I think we were playing against the Buffalo Bills in Toronto and he said, Tonight, there's two types of people in life.
Baltimore Ravens — Company · 1 mention · first at 13:37
Like ranking when you at that time? I believe we were the top seed because we played the Baltimore Ravens three times and we played the AFC Championship in Pittsburgh.
NFL Films — Company · 1 mention · first at 17:48
In. It's the coolest thing you ever seen. And sometimes they'll replay it on NFL films is one of the great plays. But it was cool to witness that play. I'm What is going Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yes. Yes. It was just everything.
Range Sports — Company · 1 mention · first at 28:34
Own former agent, excuse me, a gentleman by the name of Cameron Foster out of Seattle area. range sports, foster former foster kidney easily sports, but he was the one who kind…
Chelsea — Company · 1 mention · first at 39:05
No, he's one of the most profound like managers in Europe. like he's he's from Portugal, he's coached Chelsea, he's broken almost all the records as well.
Man United — Company · 1 mention · first at 41:24
Yeah been like Beckham. Now he's killed my team a few times because I'm Man United.
Man City — Company · 1 mention · first at 41:25
He was Man City, so they beat us 6-1 with the whole why me kind of thing.
Bayern Munich — Company · 1 mention · first at 41:38
I like Bayern Munich. I like the Wendowski, you know what I mean? I like some of the older players when I was growing up watching, but I grew up.
LA Galaxy — Company · 1 mention · first at 41:45
Some of the older players when I was growing up watching, but I grew up watching of course the LA Galaxy just Kobe Jones.
Team USA — Company · 1 mention · first at 42:01
And then next year is the World Cup as well. So yeah, we'll see what happens. But right now, the team USA needs to get a little better cuz they've been losing every damn game. Every time I watch him, I'm let's watch these guys.
AC Milan — Company · 1 mention · first at 42:24
He's probably Christian Pulus. Just one guy that plays in Europe, AC Milan.
NFL trust — Company · 1 mention · first at 43:42
And then in the 2012 CBA. and now we're in the 2020 to 2030 CBA. But we've done a better job. The NFL trust has come in as a liaison between the NFL players union and the NFL…
NFL Players Union — Company · 1 mention · first at 43:44
We're in the 2020 to 2030 CBA. But we've done a better job. The NFL trust has come in as a liaison between the NFL players union and the NFL to basically orchestrate and help…
Professional Athletes Outreach — Company · 1 mention · first at 44:23
Trust. We have the player benefits. We have the NFLPA. We have the former players. We have the professional athletes outreach. We have FCA. We have every single thing under the…
Celtics — Company · 1 mention · first at 57:02
4 year extension. And then it just went off the table. Then I think he ended up settling for the Celtics for like a 6 million.
ESPN — Company · 1 mention
FCA — Company · 1 mention
MLB — Company · 1 mention
Narbonne High School — Company · 1 mention
Serra High School — Company · 1 mention

Products & tech

FIFA — Product · Cultural reference · 5 mentions
Mentioned in the context of soccer video games.
So I'm happy you named his name because that was like the only reason I would play FIFA cuz I want to play Botelli.
MySpace — Product · 2 mentions · first at 23:16
Whereas back then it wasn't as accessible you know what I'm saying it was around MySpace was just about dead [ __ ] I remember MySpace. I remember MySpace.
Facebook — Product · 2 mentions · first at 23:41
MySpace, Facebook. But you know what?
Instagram — Product · 1 mention · first at 1:07:37
Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. Even though I'm not really that active, I will use my Instagram, but I'm really old school, but I am going to tap back into my platforms, just so you.
Twitter — Product · 1 mention · first at 1:07:37
Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. Even though I'm not really that active, I will use my Instagram, but I'm really old school, but I am going to tap back into my platforms, just so you.
Skittles — Product · Incidental mention · 1 mention · first at 48:03
Mentioned humorously in the context of a story.
No, I saw them and I was like I didn't even hesitate when I end up like seeing them like I got to get those Skittles socks, you know.
cleats — Product · 2 mentions
VHS tape — Product · 1 mention · first at 5:51
Gamble, Kiwan Ratliff from Florida, like all those guys. to watch the actual VHS tape with the tracking button, watch their stances, and I was if I can mimic this, then I got a…
care packages — Product · 1 mention · first at 25:21
South Lawn, we did a community service project. I think we made upwards of like 85,000 care packages alongside wounded warriors. So men and women, former veteran or veterans…
Top Ramen — Product · 1 mention · first at 47:05
It's huge. tell a kid who's going from eating Top Ramen to, hey, he can eat at the top of the building now, how do they handle that?
Skittles — Product · 1 mention · first at 48:03
That's awesome, man. Yeah. Look at the Skittles. Is that a Is that a tribute to Maran? Hey yo, Beast Mo.
Skittles socks — Product · 1 mention · first at 48:21
No, I saw them and I was like I didn't even hesitate when I end up like seeing them like I got to get those Skittles socks, you know.
Rolodex — Product · 1 mention · first at 50:04
Right. Well, call somebody. Well, who do I call? Or what do I look in the rolodex? And the directory, who am I looking for? Is the player personnel? Is it director? Is it the…
Noia phone — Product · 1 mention · first at 1:07:24
Pop open the Noia phone. I think that's what No.
FIFA — Product · 1 mention

Concepts & topics

Financial Literacy — Concept · Core topic · 3 mentions · first at 38:02
Discussed as a critical skill for NFL players to manage their earnings and avoid financial pitfalls.
NIL — Concept · Core topic (adjacent) · 1 mention · first at 37:42
Discussed in the context of modern athletes entering professional ranks with significant earnings and the resulting need for financial literacy and agent guidance.
Kids are walking into the NFL with more than a half a million dollars in their bank accounts right now and maybe not the financial literacy to manage it. You see what I mean? So.
Rooney Rule — Concept · Strategy · 1 mention · first at 9:37
Discussed as a policy created by the Pittsburgh Steelers to promote diversity in NFL coaching positions.
That's the Pittsburgh Steelers organization, right? They created the Rooney Rule. There's a reason why men and women of color get an opportunity to interview for head coaching…
CTE — Concept · Key argument · 1 mention · first at 12:47
Briefly mentioned in the context of player safety and the evolution of football rules to protect athletes.
Was football back then, and thank God the rules have changed now, right? For safety purposes, to keep health, right? Cuz health is wealth and all information we find out about CTE. But yeah,.
Pop Warner — Concept · Youth sports · 1 mention · first at 4:20
Mentioned as part of Roy Lewis's early football experiences.
Just taught me how to really understand spatial awareness, have discipline. And so, in seventh grade, there's a group of young men, my middle school, and they played Pop Warner. And Pop Warner at that time was kind of clicky.
winning mindset / winners love to win — Concept · 6 mentions
Attorney General — Concept · 4 mentions · first at 24:07
Whatever can stick and stick. You know what I'm saying? Like we have, a president who likes to say, all press is good press. It don't matter what it is. So, people are saying anything nowadays M just to get some attention and sometimes.
CBA — Concept · 4 mentions
NIL deal / NIL space — Concept · 4 mentions
football agent — Concept · 3 mentions · first at 2:06
Finding out about this new chapter in your life from NFL player to NFL or football agent as well. Can you walk us through that transition? What made you decide that?
perception versus reality — Concept · 2 mentions · first at 0:22
Would match what is being said, you know what I mean? It's kind of like the perception versus reality type deal. And so, it wasn't until my perception of myself and how well I…
division one football player — Concept · 2 mentions · first at 0:43
Was like all my decisions started to align with what I needed to do in order to become not only a division one football player but ultimately NFL football player in the grand…
Hall of Famers — Concept · 2 mentions · first at 9:16
They forged me into a professional. And so they would have us around the likes of all the Hall of Famers, the greats, Mel Blunt, Mean, Joe Green, Lambert, Ham, JT Thomas…
playoffs — Concept · 2 mentions · first at 11:15
December and we're still winning. and you start to hear the talks about playoffs and here I am. I've never had a playoff. In college, you either play well enough to get into a…
ACC championship — Concept · 2 mentions · first at 13:39
At that time? I believe we were the top seed because we played the Baltimore Ravens three times and we played the AFC Championship in Pittsburgh.
NFL champion — Concept · 1 mention · first at 2:39
Learning a bit more about what happens behind the scenes of sports, I have the man in the studio today, NFL champion, literally Super Bowl champion as well. played for both the…
t-ball — Concept · 1 mention · first at 3:55
Learned the game of football. Prior to football in seventh grade, I was t-ball third when I was three, youth sports at the park at St. Andrews Park in LA. Shout out St.
Ballers — Concept · 1 mention · first at 4:02
Andrews. That's where the ballers come from. and then oh, became a black belt. Yeah, became a black belt by the time I was 10 years old. So, I learned how to dissect the body. My mom put us.
black belt — Concept · 1 mention · first at 4:06
Andrews. That's where the ballers come from. and then oh, became a black belt. Yeah, became a black belt by the time I was 10 years old. So, I learned how to dissect the body.…
Warriors mentality — Concept · 1 mention · first at 9:58
Pittsburgh, being around that family, they taught me how to be a family man, a professional. it was a Warriors mentality. everyone looked out for me. Troy looked out for me.…
bowl game — Concept · 1 mention · first at 11:20
Playoffs and here I am. I've never had a playoff. In college, you either play well enough to get into a bowl game and you play it and then you go home or you don't, you go…
rookie ball — Concept · 1 mention · first at 11:26
Don't, you go home. And so now the season extending. They talk about the rookie wall, and so how do you push through the rookie wall? It was because of veterans who taught me…
total wellness — Concept · 1 mention · first at 11:36
My body, how to put the right things in my body, how to treat my body right, mind, body, and sound. Total wellness to help you sustain and survive because this is your first year. you used to playing what 10 12 games max.
media week — Concept · 1 mention · first at 14:20
Win and so that's what catapulted us into the to the Super Bowl and then after that it was media week and that was a whole deal in of itself man. just yeah the experience and sometimes I don't give it enough credit you know what I mean.
Remember the Titans — Concept · 1 mention · first at 16:34
Know, when you say that, remind me, like I said, I never knew the sport and my dad's favorite movie is Remember the Titans.
2005 Super Bowl — Concept · 1 mention · first at 18:57
Yeah, Big Ben. That was, that's his team. he had just came off of the 2005 Super Bowl versus the Seattle Seahawks in Detroit at the Motor City Classic. Remember that? So, they played the Seahawks three years prior. So,.
Motor City Classic — Concept · 1 mention · first at 19:04
Came off of the 2005 Super Bowl versus the Seattle Seahawks in Detroit at the Motor City Classic. Remember that? So, they played the Seahawks three years prior. So, now this is Ben second run. And he's like Oh yeah.
New Year's — Concept · 1 mention · first at 22:27
Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's, New Year Day, these gentlemen, they're performing for their family, but you get the benefit. And so when guys get crucified by the media, it.
community service project — Concept · 1 mention · first at 25:17
South Lawn, we did a community service project. I think we made upwards of like 85,000 care packages alongside wounded warriors. So men and women, former veteran or veterans out there on the.
wounded warriors — Concept · 1 mention · first at 25:21
South Lawn, we did a community service project. I think we made upwards of like 85,000 care packages alongside wounded warriors. So men and women, former veteran or veterans…
fireman — Concept · 1 mention · first at 28:52
Young man? And I kind of took into consideration. pursued my passion as a fireman. That's what I wanted to do, post college and just be a family man. And then it kind of dawned on me. They just kept scratching at me.
World Cup — Concept · 1 mention · first at 41:58
And then next year is the World Cup as well. So yeah, we'll see what happens. But right now, the team USA needs to get a little better cuz they've been losing every damn game. Every time.
2012 CBA — Concept · 1 mention · first at 43:37
Resources. they would talk to you, right? back then during that CBA and then in the 2012 CBA. and now we're in the 2020 to 2030 CBA. But we've done a better job. The NFL trust…
2020 to 2030 CBA — Concept · 1 mention · first at 43:39
You, right? back then during that CBA and then in the 2012 CBA. and now we're in the 2020 to 2030 CBA. But we've done a better job. The NFL trust has come in as a liaison…
30 for 30 — Concept · 1 mention · first at 46:02
That is the kicker. You seen the shows what broke, right? The NFL, the 30 for 30 back in the day. You know what I mean? Like I think Yeah. that is the scary factor and especially now with the NIO. The NIO is just the wild west. There's not.
$2.8 billion settlement — Concept · 1 mention · first at 46:24
Yeah, they just had a new settlement, of course. You probably heard about that with the $2.8 billion settlement with NCAA versus the house, meaning that all former college players beginning yesterday, July 1.
Jesus Take the Wheel — Concept · 1 mention · first at 47:39
Wallet at all. I just tap my watch and just I named my car Jesus take the wheel.
Snoopaloop — Concept · 1 mention · first at 49:15
Bowl with me. Him and my dad were in the end zone, hanging out in Snoopaloop, hanging out, having a good time. And then my other agent, Cameron Foster. those two gentlemen were a wealth of knowledge. Cameron even more so. This.
All American — Concept · 1 mention · first at 50:51
That's take advantage of. Now, where do you also identify this the talent that because I've watched All American and I love the like the series and stuff, but then I always realize there's always some of these underprivileged, schools or.
lockout — Concept · 1 mention · first at 58:43
And as an owner, if the fans not happy, like during a lockout when fans started to retract their season tickets because, oh, you guys going to lock our players out of their locker room, then we ain't coming to the games then.

Places & events

NFL — Place · Contextual organization / domain · 10 mentions · first at 0:57
The professional league in which Roy Lewis played and now works around as an agent; discussion covers NFL seasons, playoffs, CBA, player resources, and culture.
Your first year in the NFL. Mhm. Mhm.
Super Bowl — Event · Achievement discussed · 8 mentions · first at 1:06
Highlighted as a pinnacle achievement in Roy Lewis's career and discussed in detail.
Just I've always just wondered like the mentality behind and the atmosphere when people are pursuing this prestigious achievement of winning a Super Bowl like what was it like…
LA — Place · Origin / background context · 3 mentions · first at 3:58
Roy references growing up in South Central LA, playing youth sports at St. Andrews Park — establishes his origin story and early athletic development.
Cool. And I'm sitting there and I'm experiencing this and I'm This is happening to me. I'm just a kid from South Central LA from 60th Street.
White House — Place · Event location / setting · 3 mentions · first at 24:54
Site of the post-Super Bowl visit where Roy and teammates participated in community service on the South Lawn and met President Obama.
Current and active military men. And we just did it like assembly line style. M and Obama President Barack Obama walked around and shook every single hand, took every single…
South Central LA — Place · Setting · 2 mentions · first at 5:23
Roy Lewis's hometown, mentioned in the context of his upbringing and journey to the NFL.
Dominate the games in high school. me and my teammates, we would just dominate. And it was a football school at Narbon and Sarah and SoCal and South Central LA. But that's when…
South Lawn — Place · Event setting (White House) · 1 mention · first at 25:17
Site where Roy and teammates did a community service project preparing care packages and met the President after the Super Bowl.
South Lawn, we did a community service project. I think we made upwards of like 85,000 care packages alongside wounded warriors. So men and women, former veteran or veterans out there on the south lawn preparing packages for.
St. Andrews Park — Place · Youth sports setting · 1 mention · first at 4:00
Mentioned as the park in LA where Roy and peers played youth sports and where 'ballers come from.'
Football in seventh grade, I was t-ball third when I was three, youth sports at the park at St. Andrews Park in LA. Shout out St.
Pop Warner — Event · Setting · 1 mention · first at 4:20
Mentioned as the youth football league where Roy Lewis started playing.
Spatial awareness, have discipline. And so, in seventh grade, there's a group of young men, my middle school, and they played Pop Warner. And Pop Warner at that time was kind of clicky.
Arlington National Cemetery — Place · Referenced event location · 1 mention · first at 26:07
Roy references a childhood visit to lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier — part of his life experiences with the White House visit context.
Cool experience. And that was what, my second time ever going to the White House. I went back when I was in middle school to lay the wreath at the Arlington National Cemetery…
Premier League — Event · Cultural reference · 2 mentions · first at 41:31
Mentioned in the context of soccer fandom.
Oh yeah, I do remember that. That is on my bucket list to go to a Premier League game or to go to a European soccer game.
Tomb of the Unknown Soldier — Place · Personal background · 1 mention · first at 26:07
Mentioned as a significant site within Arlington National Cemetery.
White House. I went back when I was in middle school to lay the wreath at the Arlington National Cemetery at the tomb of the unknown soldier. So that was a cool experience and…
World Cup — Event · Cultural reference · 1 mention · first at 41:58
Mentioned in the context of soccer fandom.
And then next year is the World Cup as well. So yeah, we'll see what happens. But right now, the team USA needs to get a little better cuz they've been losing every damn game. Every time.
Seattle — Place · 5 mentions · first at 2:47
Literally Super Bowl champion as well. played for both the Pittsburgh Steelers and the team from Seattle. I'm joking, the Seahawks.
South Central LA — Place · 2 mentions · first at 5:23
Dominate. And it was a football school at Narbon and Sarah and SoCal and South Central LA. But that's when I knew I was Oh yeah, I got a shot at this thing. And not only that…
St. Andrews Park — Place · 1 mention · first at 4:00
T-ball third when I was three, youth sports at the park at St. Andrews Park in LA. Shout out St.
60th Street — Place · 1 mention · first at 10:49
Experiencing this and I'm This is happening to me. I'm just a kid from South Central LA from 60th Street.
453 West 60th Street — Place · 1 mention · first at 10:51
Figuro and 60th, from 453 West 60th Street. So, it was cool, man.
Toronto — Place · 1 mention · first at 12:18
My third preseason game. I think we were playing against the Buffalo Bills in Toronto and he said, Tonight, there's two types of people in life.
South Lawn — Place · 1 mention · first at 25:17
South Lawn, we did a community service project. I think we made upwards of like 85,000 care packages alongside wounded warriors. So men and women, former veteran or veterans out there on the.
Tomb of the Unknown Soldier — Place · 1 mention · first at 26:08
Middle school to lay the wreath at the Arlington National Cemetery at the tomb of the unknown soldier. So that was a cool experience and who would have thought you know years…
Portugal — Place · 1 mention · first at 39:05
No, he's one of the most profound like managers in Europe. like he's he's from Portugal, he's coached Chelsea, he's broken almost all the records as well.
Figueroa and 60th — Place · 1 mention
SoCal — Place · 1 mention

Media & podcasts

MySpace — Media · Cultural reference · 2 mentions · first at 23:16
Referenced in a nostalgic discussion of social media evolution and how athlete scrutiny and platforms have changed.
Oh, MySpace was something special. Yeah, the OG's remember MySpace. I remember that. You could put the status with the I think you could put like a song and people could.
Remember the Titans — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at 16:34
Mentioned as a favorite movie that illustrates the team atmosphere in sports.
Sports. So, that's why I want to, when you say that, remind me, like I said, I never knew the sport and my dad's favorite movie is Remember the Titans.
All American — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at 50:51
Mentioned in the context of discovering underprivileged talent in sports.
That's take advantage of. Now, where do you also identify this the talent that because I've watched All American and I love the like the series and stuff, but then I always realize there's always some of these underprivileged, schools or.
All-American — Media · Series discussed · 1 mention · first at 50:51
Mentioned as a series the guest enjoys, relating to sports and personal interests.
Talent that because I've watched All American and I love the like the series and stuff, but then I always realize there's always some of these underprivileged, schools or like…
MySpace — Media · Incidental reference · 2 mentions · first at 23:16
Mentioned in passing as a nostalgic reference to early social media.
Whereas back then it wasn't as accessible you know what I'm saying it was around MySpace was just about dead [ __ ] I remember MySpace. I remember MySpace.
Snoopaloop — Character · Casual reference / personal anecdote · 1 mention · first at 49:13
Mentioned briefly in a nostalgic anecdote (Roy referenced hanging out in Snoopaloop) — likely a nickname or inside reference rather than a major topic.
Out of Sacramento. I was my very first agent. It's my agent I took to the Super Bowl with me. Him and my dad were in the end zone, hanging out in Snoopaloop, hanging out, having a good time. And then my other agent, Cameron Foster.

Sponsors

Barack Obama — Sponsor · Not a sponsor (misclassified in input) · 1 mention · first at 25:36
Appears as an honored guest and president met by team; not a sponsor. Kept for clarity but marked low-confidence as sponsor.
Current and active military men. And we just did it like assembly line style. M and Obama President Barack Obama walked around and shook every single hand, took every single…

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 I guess my life is like most young people, right? You play sports when you're younger, right? Your parents want to get you involved. It wasn't until seventh grade that I actually started playing a sport of football. So, I learned the game of football. In high school is where I really kind of set in at, you know what, maybe I have an opportunity at this thing. You know what I mean? As I started playing better and better and I guess my play on the field would match what is being said, you know what I mean? It's kind of like the perception versus reality type deal. And so, it wasn't until my perception of myself and how well I was playing, I was like, you know what, damn, I actually am really good. And then it went so then I started to dominate the games in high school. I would say KG I think what happened was my mentality shifted and it was like all my decisions started to align with what I needed to do in order

0:43 to become not only a division one football player but ultimately NFL football player in the grand scheme of things. Even though it was so far away, you know, I was only in high school but all my decisions I was just like just firing on all cylinders.

0:53 You've experienced something that most people, you know, can only dream of. Your first year in the NFL. Mhm. Mhm.

0:59 Know with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I just I've always just wondered like the mentality behind and the atmosphere when people are pursuing this prestigious achievement of winning a Super Bowl like what was it like on a day-to-day basis and the training ground whether you lock and stuff like that?

1:16 So to go into depth man to be honest I had never experienced anything like what I experienced my rookie year in Pittsburgh with the Pittsburgh Steelers. at defense, just the team, just the energy. Coming from the University of Washington my senior year, we weren't that successful. I remember we lost the last couple games and I was just like, "All right." Said, "Getting to Pittsburgh, Coach Tomlin, he revitalized me instantly." It was like a family from the owners, Mr. Rooney, all the way down to the maintenance man, the fabric.

1:44 That's who they are. Did the coach say something different when you guys went into halftime knowing that there was two quarters left to try and like instill a lot of like less nerves, less pressure? Do you remember any of the words the coach said at that point in time? Very curious. And also transitioning and finding out about this new chapter in your life from NFL player to NFL or football agent as well. Can you walk us through that transition? What made you decide that?

2:10 You know, KJ, I think everybody wants to still be connected. Deal. I wanted to still be connected to the game. It was such a big part of my life. It still is a big part of my life. My son played football, constantly try to mentor and advocate for youth sports. And so this was my way of directly having an impact back on the game.

2:28 The code to winning insights you need today to seize the world tomorrow. If you are curious and interested in learning a bit more about what happens behind the scenes of sports, I have the man in the studio today, NFL champion, um, literally Super Bowl champion as well. Uh, played for both the Pittsburgh Steelers and the team from Seattle. I'm joking, the Seahawks. All right. Um, so yes, the modernday Spencer stress if you've ever watched bowlers. So literally NFL player turned into football agent. So, the man, the myth, the very legend himself. We got Roy Lewis in the studio. How you doing, brother?

3:07 I feel good. Thank you for the intro. I feel great. It makes me feel like I'm on the baller show.

3:12 Oh, I enjoyed that. You know, I watched it back then. And so, that's why I when I was on the phone with you yesterday, I'm like, "Oh my gosh." Like, hang on. NFL player turned into like agent. I've seen this thing before. That was a very, very good series.

3:23 So, yes, I want to just touch base about just your experience. I often love people that have played sports at a professional like level because it just takes a literal like you know certain level of mentality physical attribute but like can you walk us through your journey please? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I guess my life is like most young people, right? You play sports when you're younger, right? Your parents want to get you involved. Um, it wasn't until seventh grade that I actually started playing the sport of football. So, I learned the game of football. Prior to football in seventh grade, I was uh t-ball third when I was three,

3:58 you know, youth sports at the park at St. Andrews Park in LA. Shout out St. Andrews. That's where the ballers come from. Um, and then oh, became a black belt. Yeah, became a black belt by the time I was 10 years old. So, I learned how to dissect the body. My mom put us in there for discipline, but uh more so just taught me how to really understand spatial awareness, have discipline. And so, in seventh grade, there's a group of young men, my middle school, and uh they played Pop Warner. And you know, Pop Warner at that time was kind of clicky.

4:26 He was like, "Hey man, you played Pop Warner." And so, I wanted to play. They said I couldn't. So, I told him, "I have my mom sign me up and I take all your spots." And I literally played to every last one of those people

4:36 in my palm warner watched me play professionally. That's crazy. But the journey between then when uh before you went to college and stuff, when did you realize, hey, listen, you actually had the talent and you wanted to take it like at a different level as well. Was that always like the motive and the reason behind it too?

4:50 I think you know in high school is where I really kind of it kind of set in at you know what maybe I have an opportunity at this thing. You know what I mean? as I started playing better and better and

5:00 I guess my play on the field would match what was being said, you know what I mean? It's kind of like the perception versus reality type deal. And so it wasn't until my perception of myself and how well I was playing. I was like, you know what, damn, I actually I'm really good.

5:13 And then it went so then I started to dominate the games in high school. You know, me and my teammates, we would just dominate. And it was a football school at Narbon and Sarah and uh and SoCal and South Central LA. But uh that's when I knew I was like, "Oh yeah, I got a shot at this thing." And not only that, scholarship, right? Division One scholarship. I'm trying to get as high as I can, as fast as I can to the top. And so I started to mimic and watch gentlemen who were already there. I found like OVH tapes and I would just watch like players from like uh Ohio State back in the day, you know, Chris Gamble, uh Kiwan Ratliff from Florida, like all those guys. to watch the actual VHS tape with the tracking button, watch their stances, and I was like, if I can mimic this, then I got a chance. And so that just kind of took me every step of the way as I got more and more athletic.

6:00 Became easier and easier. You know what I mean? And then uh when I got to college, I was like, "Oh yeah, it's time. It's time." And you know, when you know, you know. You have the coaches, you have the mentors, you have

6:14 I would say KG, I think what happened was my mentality shifted and it was like all my decisions started to align with what

6:24 I needed to do in order to become not only a division one football player, but ultimately an NFL football player in the grand scheme of things. Even though it was so far away,

6:32 you know, I was only in high school, but all my decisions, I was just like, I'm just firing on all cylinders. all my workouts, how I'm going about things with people I'm meeting, the guys that are recruiting me. Um, so it just worked out timing. Sometimes the universe just don't miss.

6:46 I love that so much. And whether you believe in a God or not, like I always feel like higher power, the universe, like a higher energy. Some things just are always align. You're like, "Listen, this thing had to happen in order for me to actually experience this thing as well." Cuz I'm very religious and I believe obviously like in a god. And I think sometimes when I hear stories like that when you're like, "I just knew. I know what what you mean. Like you know what I'm saying? And I feel like we have a calling sometimes as well. And so sometimes uh you know we we end up like finding out at a later stage, hey listen, this is what I'm called to do.

7:16 This is my purpose and my glory to actually like inspire, uplift, and like add purpose and value people's lives as well. So I couldn't agree more.

7:24 I I agree, man. Added value, I think, is probably the biggest deal. You know, everybody can add value. We all can take something and give something to one another on our daily journey. So I look forward to that. And so when you start to receive that from multiple streams, like we have multiple streams of income, but you can receive multiple streams of positivity and multiple streams of excellence, multiple streams of whatever it is, you absorb that good energy. Sky's is truly the limit, man.

7:49 Love that. Love that. I mean, you've experienced something that most people, you know, can only dream of like in um obviously I think it could have been like your your um your first year in the NFL.

8:01 Mhm. Mhm. you know, with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Um, I just I've always just wondered like the mentality behind and the atmosphere when people are pursuing this um prestigious um achievement of winning a Super Bowl like what was it like on a day-to-day basis on the training ground whether you lock and stuff like that?

8:22 So, to go into depth, man, to be honest, I had never experienced anything like what I experienced my rookie year in Pittsburgh with the Pittsburgh Steelers. at defense, just the team, just the energy. Um, coming from the University of Washington, uh, my senior year, we weren't that successful. I remember we lost the last couple games and I was just like, "All right, that's it." Um, getting to Pittsburgh with Coach Tomlin, he revitalized me instantly. It was like a family from the owners, Mr. Rooney, all the way down to the maintenance man, the fabric. That's who they are. Um, and he meant every bit of it. Mr. Rooney knows every single individual who's ever worn a Pittsburgh uniform.

9:02 Wow. That's how important you are to their organization. I didn't know that as a young man. I'm just thinking it's just football. No, they brought me into a culture. They bought me into a family. They forged me into a professional. And so they would have us around the likes of all the Hall of Famers, the greats, you know, Mel Blunt, Mean, Joe Green, Lambert, Ham, uh JT Thomas, Franco Harris. These gentlemen were at our welcome to Pittsburgh entry party. Just cool little nuances, little touches that that organization does that keeps them here.

9:36 That's the Pittsburgh Steelers organization, right? They created the Rooney Rule. There's a reason why men and women of color get an opportunity to interview for head coaching positions in the NFL. Prior to the Rooney Rule, it wasn't that was non-existent. So, they are truly an advocate for trying to bolster a community. So getting to Pittsburgh, being around that family, they taught me how to be a family man, a professional. Um, it was a Warriors mentality. Um, everyone looked out for me. I mean, Troy looked out for me. Ike,

10:05 Ryan Clark that you see daily on ESPN. I mean, these are all like older brothers, you know, that would just took me underneath my wing and showed me

10:14 this is how you survive in the NFL. You know, this is how you play ball in the NFL. This is what you do in the NFL. Here's the etiquette. Here's the unknowns, the unwrittens NFL, and I'm going to teach you at at a high level from a winning franchise. So, you don't have any bad habits, Roy. You going to come into the league with a clean slate and learn how to do it the right way. And it was so cool. I was so fortunate um the preparation, the attention, the detail, how we went about our business. It was just um it was it was it was surreal. It was cool. And I'm sitting there and I'm experiencing this and I'm like, "This is happening to me. I'm just a kid from South Central LA from 60th Street.

10:51 Figuro and 60th, you know, from 453 West 60th Street. So, uh, it was cool, man. Just being able to to to to to share that back with my family as I'm going through it. And then as the season progresses, we keep getting better and better and we keep winning and winning and winning and next thing you know, it's in December and it's in late December and we're still winning. and you start to hear the talks about playoffs and here I am. I've never had a playoff. In college, you either play well enough to get into a bowl game and you play it and then you go home or you don't, you go home. And so now the season extending. They talk about the rookie wall, you know, and so how do you push through the rookie wall? It was because of veterans who taught me how to condition my body, how to take care of my body, how to put the right things in my body, how to treat my body right, you know, mind, body, and sound. Total

11:38 wellness to help you sustain and survive because this is your first year. you used to playing what 10 12 games max. Welcome to the NFL. This is 17. Let's go. 161 17 right now whether you're ready for it or not. And so, uh, they did a great job of just grooming me, man. Just the whole year was just one big journey. And it makes sense now because in hindsight, Coach Tom would always say, "It's never about the destination, kid. It's about the journey."

12:04 Wow. It's about the journey. It's about the journey. And I vividly remember him saying quotes like that to us. I vividly remember him speaking to the team before my third preseason game. I think we were playing against um the Buffalo Bills in Toronto and he said, "Tonight, there's two types of people in life. Those that feel pressure and those that apply it. Tonight we're going to figure out which kind of person you are." Wow.

12:28 And that resonated with me. I'm just like, you know, you get the bug going. You know what I mean? KG, this was back in the day in the first Well, the CBI originally came under uh back in 2008. We still had the fourman wedge. So, it was a true kickoff. You can run down the field and I mean, you get blasted. That was football back then, you know, and and thank God the rules have changed now, right? For safety purposes, um to keep health, right? Cuz health is wealth and all information we find out about CTE. But

12:54 yeah, it was it was a different time when I came in, you know what I mean? If you're a gunner, if you're a wedge buster, you run down there, you got to bust them bust the wedge, make something happen. Make a splash plate, Louis, get in there. You know what I mean? So, um, it was it was just a cool experience, man. So, to to to ride that wave and then to get to the playoffs and then you watch it happen. Team start falling off. It's a whole different vibe in the playoffs.

13:18 Were you guys a wild card team at that time or would you get the playoff position?

13:21 Yeah, we had the playoff position. We had the playoff position. So, we had a buy. Perfect. Great. Then the next week

13:29 we play. Oh, yeah. What number were you like in terms of like ranking when you at that time? I believe we were the top seed because we played the Baltimore Ravens three times and we played the AFC Championship

13:43 in Pittsburgh. Okay, we beat them in Pittsburgh. We went back to Pitts uh to Baltimore to beat him when San Antonio caught the ball on the goal line with his tiptoes facing outward

13:54 towards the back towards the field. We caught that on another tiptoe catch by San Antonio for the win. And then we played him again in the AFC Championship and that's when Ryan Clark had that that nice killer hit on Willis McGee which was it was just a great play man. He read his keys. Ryan is such a cerebral player and he made the play and Brett Keel picked the ball up and secured the win and so uh that's what catapulted us into the to the uh Super Bowl and then after that it was media week and that was a whole deal in of itself man. just yeah the experience and sometimes I don't give it enough credit you know what I mean

14:30 being able to talk to gentlemen like you KG or you know when people ask me about it I'll bring it back up but you know life moves on and you keep going you just keep progressing you keep evolving you keep elevating and it's just like

14:42 it's good to reminisce and go down that because it shaped so much of me right it really has and so I think about that game I think about

14:52 the night before the game I think about the meeting room. I think about the music that we listen to when we turned off the we turned off the lights and we closed our eyes and just start vibing to Phil Collins, you know, and it was just Are you hear that? I can feel it coming in tonight.

15:16 Silent room. Just visualize that. You can feel the electricity right now. Wow. And I mean that was the conversation. It's time to go. You know what tomorrow means. We here now. That was coach Tomlin in a nutshell. That is coach Tom. That's why he is what? The longest winningest, you know, as far as having successful season coaches in the NFL.

15:37 Unbelievable. 18 17 18 years of never having a losing season. That's the philosophy. You just win by attrition every day. You put the work in. You just chip away. I don't care who looking. It don't matter who looking. We just chipping. It's to steal away. just going to keep chipping.

15:52 But the the reason why I like what you're saying is that football is one of the those unique sports that every single person has to play their role. Of course, you do get so it's everyone whether cuz you see in soccer you have 11 people on and off, but like football you have your offensive that will come in and you have your defensive and you have to have your kicker that has to have a good day, your quarter. So it's like, oh my gosh, it's one of those things where you can't really say like I dragged a team there. Yes, you can have an exceptional thing, but every single piece of the puzzle or the piece of the, you know, is playing their significant role. So, I often feel like it's one of the most team sports out there, you know, or team games that you can play in sports. So, that's why I want to, you know, when you say that, remind me, like I said, I never knew the sport and my dad's favorite movie is Remember the

16:36 Titans. Oh, yeah. So, he spoke about the team atmosphere, you know, left side, strong side, left side, strong side. And it just gives you chills. like gosh, they're going to win now. Now you're rooting for them, you know.

16:48 So, can if you like just remember like that moment, the Super Bowl day and halftime, I don't know what the score was. Were you guys losing or were you winning at that moment in time?

16:58 At halftime, we went in to halftime ahead because James Harrison caught the interception right before halftime. 106 yard, I believe, interception. Um, on the goal line. Yeah, we're getting ready to blitz and Debo he

17:14 106 yard as a linebacker. It was the most insane play once in a lifetime player. He caught he catches the ball in the end zone from Kurt Warner. Larry Fitzgerald, I don't know.

17:26 The other receiver breast was on the backside, but switch release. James Harrison picks the ball right in his bare basket and he's down the sideline like the Incredible Hulk just all brute strength and it is like elephants on parade. Everybody's just cleaning house. Larry jumps out of bounds. He comes back in. It's the coolest thing you ever seen. And sometimes they'll replay it on NFL films is one of the great plays. But um

17:51 it was cool to witness that play. I'm like, "What is going Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yes. Yes. It was just everything all in the same manner. So, um yeah, it was cool. It was cool. It was just uh the experience alone.

18:05 Yeah. Yeah. Did the coach say something different when you guys went to halftime knowing that there was two quarters left to try and like instill a lot of like less nerves, less pressure. What are Do you remember any of the words the coach said at that point in time?

18:20 No, I don't. But Coach Tomlin is Coach Tomlin is not a man of many many words in that regard. Coach Tom is a professional. He teaches you how to be he teaches men how to be men. Period. Grown men. We handle our job. We do our job.

18:36 We perform at a high level. Right, wrong, or indifferent, I do my job. That's the way it is. And so, I don't know what the conversation was, but all I know, we were excited about James. James was out of breath. Um, and we came back out second half. And ultimately, Ben, you know, Big Ben. Um,

18:53 oh, Big Ben. Yeah, Big Ben. That was, you know, that's his team. you know, he had just came off of uh the 2005 Super Bowl

19:02 versus the Seattle Seahawks in Detroit at the Motor City Classic. Remember that? So, they played

19:07 the the Seahawks three years prior. So, now this is Ben second run. And he's like "Oh yeah.

19:13 New coach. He won that one under Bill Cower. This time it's with with Tomlin." And so, um Ben had a lot to do. You had Hines War. We had a lot of veterans. Casey Hampton, um I can't even do a credit. Aaron Smith, Breil, Larry Foot, James Frier, Max Starks, um, Antonio Holmes, Heath Miller, uh, was our kicker, Jeff Reed. I love you, Jeff. Jeff was awesome. We just had a good We just had a good group of guys. And

19:45 as we all know, at least what I came to realize is that the good teams, the winning teams,

19:50 they're super close outside of football. M they take care of one another. They look out for one another. And so I was immediately baptized into this brotherhood, to this fraternity. Like, oh, this is the way that the NFL is. Every team is like this.

20:02 Oh, I love that. Every team is like this in my mind. You know what I mean? And if it's not, then it's my goal to get there and try to create that type of culture because this is how it was forged. I come from the Pittsburgh Steelers.

20:12 I mean, it's a good thing because it sets the bar so high, but then you don't know any other better. So, you're just assuming that every single team has got that level of standard and like that's where everything is as well. So,

20:21 100%. And and you would see that, you know, no matter where you went, it was like it doesn't care. In Pittsburgh, the mentality was it doesn't matter what happens. We've already decided we've won the game. It's just a matter of us physically going out there to articulate it. But in our mind, we've played the game. We've won the game. It's a matter of us going out there and doing it. And that was our approach. And it would be funny cuz the game would be happening and um the ball would bounce the different another way and somehow a guy would get it. The oddest thing ever.

20:48 That's why the ball is ablang, I guess. Ball bounce is weird in football, but it it becomes cyclic. And it and like I said, it wasn't only in in in in Pittsburgh.

20:57 Um that was also in Seattle when I got to Seattle. I got to Seattle only to be surrounded by another group of great individuals. TJ Husada, Dion Branch, Dion Grant,

21:09 Matt Hasselback, Julius Jones, Lo for the Tupoo. So my entire football career, I've been around nothing but legends.

21:17 That's amazing. And they've all mentored me. I've always been the youngest guy. So they just take me along. Lawyer Malloy, Marcus Juant, Jordan Babino, they would just grab me, pull me along, and kind of groom me. Hey man, this is how we go about our business here in the NFL. So I've been really, really fortunate to have those relationships um because it makes me who I am today.

21:36 Powerful. And then what's something in the life in the NFL that fans don't get to see or like fully understand?

21:44 Um you know what, it's funny you say that because we talk about this all the time. I think the audience the fans, they don't really understand it. They're human. We're human. We have the same issues as, you know, normal families would have, but sometimes we're scrutinized a little bit more. You know what I mean? I the case in point or example I would like to use is just think about on the holidays. I tell families, I said, "When you get around your family on holidays, you guys get to around family, you get to eat, have a great time, maybe watch a sporting event." Guess what? That gentleman who's performing, he's not with his family.

22:18 Yeah, you get the benefit from him performing on the holiday. It's not for him. He's performing. That's his job.

22:24 Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's, New Year Day, these gentlemen, they're performing for their family, but you get the benefit. And so when guys get crucified by the media, you know, it it hurts. I would say as athletes, we know we're we're we're kind of bred to have thicker skin, tougher skin, and kind of not be swayed by the media and just kind of stay in our own realm. But they're humans. we have feelings. We have to deal with the same issues that you have to you know what I mean as well and so uh I think there'll be a little bit more empathy more consideration more compassion in that in that in that regard it couldn't hurt why not right

23:01 but wouldn't you say then back then obviously with uh the transformation of social media especially over the last 10 years has been super crazy where everyone's got access people can hide behind the keyboard and start bullying whereas back then it wasn't as accessible you know what I'm saying it was around Um, I mean, MySpace was just about dead [ __ ]

23:19 I remember MySpace. I remember MySpace. Oh, MySpace was something special. Yeah, the OG's remember MySpace. I remember that. You could put the status with the I think you could put like a song and people could

23:30 you look it up, write your little code in the background. It was a good time. MySpace.

23:33 The twins were born then. Back then, it wasn't until You don't know about the MySpace, bro. You don't know.

23:41 MySpace, Facebook. But you know what? You're right. I think the evolution of social media, how we're moving in general in society, everyone is moving towards this, I mean, of course, it's been opinionated news for years, but

23:55 um people now have a platform to say whatever they want without any checks and balances. So, what you get is the wild wild west. Everybody's just firing shots.

24:03 Whatever can stick and stick. You know what I'm saying? Like we have, you know, a president who likes to say, all press is good press. It don't matter what it is. So, people are saying anything nowadays M

24:13 just to get some attention and sometimes some of the bad stuff is going to stick too. So, uh it's just unfortunate in that in that capacity that we're there, but when it's used in the right manner,

24:25 social media can be good. And speaking of presidents, I think I saw a picture with you and number 44.

24:30 Oh, you know it. It's great. Barack. Oh, it was beautiful. That's my uncle by the way. You know,

24:35 yeah, he's my uncle. Give me some of that. Yeah, I did my family genealogy. I think it's about 200 cousins something. It doesn't matter. We all family. Kenya, Africa. So we all family. I'm your brother too, brother.

24:46 There we go. Oh, we all connected. That is awesome. How was that experience? Cuz I think he was just inaugurated. I think 2009. He took office January 20th, 2009. And at that time, I think he went to the White House.

24:56 So you could have been the first team that he had met after the one Super Bowl if I'm not mistaken.

25:01 We were the first team after he was inaugurated. Um he got there in what November and then or the election November that year. So

25:10 January 20th, January and then uh you guys went February. We went February. So after Subo,

25:16 what a great experience. South Lawn, we did a community service project. I think we made upwards of like 85,000 care packages alongside wounded warriors. So men and women, former veteran or veterans out there on the south lawn preparing packages for current and active military men. And we just did it like assembly line style. M

25:36 and Obama President Barack Obama walked around and shook every single hand, took every single picture, answered every single question, and was not too cool for school, not too busy, took the time to hang out with us. And it was

25:48 He still had black hair then as well, you know? Oh, yeah. He was smooth like butter, man. Back then, I got to show you some of the the pictures. He wasn't stressed. It was he had waves, you know what I mean? He was seasick. So, um it was a cool experience. And that was

26:01 what, my second time ever going to the White House. I went back when I was in middle school to lay the wreath at the uh Arlington National Cemetery at the tomb of the unknown soldier. So that was a cool experience and who would have thought you know years later I would be back there

26:17 champion. Yeah. Right. Shaking hands as president. So I've been fortunate in life you know as I as I look back over things you know

26:24 the creator's been good. No issues. Love that so much. Now, now the exciting part that I want to talk about as much as yes, you've gained so much experience and and and like life lessons from playing from the NFL. I'm very curious in also transitioning and finding out about this new chapter in your life from NFL player to NFL or football agent as well. Can you walk us through that transition? What made you decide that?

26:51 You know, KJ, I think um everybody wants to still be connected, right? Who doesn't want to still be connected? Like that for me was the ultimate deal. I wanted to still be connected to the game. Um it was such a big part of my life. It still is a big part of my life. My son played football. I constantly try to mentor and advocate for youth sports. And so this was my way of directly having an impact back on the game.

27:18 I can just give the players all the information that I wish I knew I had when I was playing. But before it was given to me, you know what I mean? So now I can just literally say, "Hey, here's what may happen. Let's be proactive.

27:32 Hey, that's what they can't do. Let's be proactive. Hey, here's your leverage in this position. Hey, let's work this. Or here's your rights.

27:40 Let's exercise this option." And so for me, becoming an NFL agent was like, I'm finally in a position to give enough of myself and to give back enough knowledge to where it can actually benefit the next person.

27:55 It's time to go forward with this. Someone can use this and someone can be great with this. And they could be and they could be even greater even faster

28:02 because this is knowledge that I've acquired over a long period of time. I'm giving it to my players in a condensed version right now. Hey, let's go do it. And so that's the that's the difference. That's the key. It's like, wow.

28:15 Which year was that when you did the when you transitioned to that? Uh I became an agent two seasons ago.

28:20 Okay. And so um and it's been great. I uh just said, you know what? Hey, this is my time. This is what I want to do. And um I set out to do it. My my personal my own former agent, excuse me, a gentleman by the name of Cameron Foster um out of Seattle area. um range sports, foster former foster kidney easily uh sports, but um he was the one who kind of prompted me, hey man, I think you'd be good at this profession, you know, a former player, you have a wealth of knowledge, why not impart that on a young man? And I kind of took into consideration. Um pursued my passion as a fireman. That's what I wanted to do, you know, post college and just be a family man. And then it kind of dawned on me. They just kept scratching at me.

28:59 Go back. And I went back and uh aced it with flying colors. And the rest has been um it's been great. KG. I've had nothing but

29:08 pure bliss being able to talk to young men about playing a game of football. And I think it also makes such a massive difference knowing that somebody actually played cuz sometimes the transition or when people are trying to jump in a field, it's like those mentors that like listen, go buy this amount of real estate, but the guy's bloody well renting a home or you know what I'm saying? And so obviously that's an extreme example I made, but somebody that's actually played the game and has been in the locker rooms has witnessed the coaches understands that it's makes it way easier because like you can relate and you understand the steps you know from start to finish as well. So I think it's easier cuz you not only a mentor but you can help somebody try and avoid something that you never got the chance to avoid by being that path to you know help them get the right trajectory. So, I think just getting

29:56 people that have experienced that thing makes a big difference. Would you agree?

29:59 Oh, 100%. I think immediately off the top, it's instant credibility. This gentleman has done exactly what I'm doing or trying to do. I should listen to them. And I give that same advice to the kids that I coach. Hey, stop taking advice from people who've done none of the things that you want to do.

30:15 Go find someone who's done what you want to do and pick their brain. They will gladly and gracefully tell you everything. And so my job as an agent is to help my clients and educate them and their parents as well, whoever the wife, significant other, but on potential pitfalls that they may or may not encounter along this journey

30:33 and why why why allow you to step on a landmine when I know it's coming. Hey, you don't want to go there, kid. So I can help navigate them. I can help say, "Hey, we want to go this way or you might want to do this. You might want to train here." And so it works. And again, having that credibility of being out on the field, it's a brother bond. You know what it is? Anytime you bleed, sweat, cry, go through some stuff with some guys or in the same kind of arena.

30:59 Mhm. It's It's all love. It It rubs off the second you see like, "Okay, he's a player. He's not just He's not just an agent. I'm not an attorney. I'm not a guy who just went to school to get the books. No, I'm a football player. I walk the walk. I talk the talk. We talk X and O's first, then we talk about business.

31:18 Boom. Because at the end of the day, my job is to keep you on the field. So, you got to know your X's and O's. Means you got to make sure you're a student of the game. You got to be making sure you're professional. Those are the small things. The other things on the back end I can help you with as well. Okay. Hey, you need this far as compliance. Hey, you got these kind of tests come up, yada yada. We can talk about that. But my goal is to make sure that you're ready mentally. Whereas, there's times my agent couldn't talk to me about football at all. He just didn't play football. Exactly.

31:46 I love Cameron Foster to death. He didn't physically play football. So, what can he really offer me besides reactiveness, right? Hey, Roy, what happened? Or, hey, okay, oh, that happened. Okay, we should do this now.

32:00 But I can offer it, hey man, this week is big. Hey, man. You don't want to make the same mistake twice, right? That means you don't have that much retention. You can make a new mistake, 1,000 miles an hour, but not the same mistake. M

32:12 coaches see that it's not having retention, right? And so these are little nuances. Hey, you might want to do this. Hey, no seams, no post. Play it like this or when you get in this. So we can have those little intimate talks that only playerto player know that an agentto player relationship, a true agent to player relationship, they wouldn't have. It's non-existent because there's a divide. There's a disconnect. You didn't actually physically experience what I'm going through.

32:39 Exactly. You didn't. So, you can't empathize truly with me. You don't know how traumatic it is. You can't really truly put yourselves in my shoe as a player if you've never really played.

32:51 Yeah. And players hold on to that value. That is added value, right? And I think that's that's the that's where the conflict ends up recurring with

33:01 a bunch of these sports analysts that have never touched uh, you know, a ball in their in their life and then they're out there telling the players that, you know, you should do that, you should do that. And when the players end up reacting, they're like, "Well, it's my job to become a sports analyst." And I think that's where the divide comes. And it's like, listen, it's not the fact that you you you calling us out. It's the fact that you have never ever stepped foot in the field and for you to try and like just be so have such a massive voice and influence. That's the problem. It's not just the fact that they're saying, it's the fact that their voice is valued and validated so much at a higher rate where it's like you've never played the sport.

33:33 Absolutely. And that's what you see now in society. Unfortunately, we've come to that point where again, it's become opinionated. And so the more we can rid that space of the subjectivity, so to speak. Hey man, just just go get an expert. I've yet to see a professional a woman play professional football. I've yet to see it.

33:52 I mean, and there's no disrespect to the women analysts out there to do a great job. But

33:56 a woman would be pretty hardressed to try to tell an NFL player what to do. The NFL player is going to look at her and be like,

34:04 "That's cool." Right? Like what are we talking about here, ma'am? It's not even a question. And I'm not even entertaining that. Right. So, we've we we're at that point now where you're seeing a lot of online gurus, a lot of technicians, a lot of specialists, a lot of people who are trying to impart knowledge on things that they may or may not have value or a wealth of knowledge behind, but you can sell it. And so, I think having that true authenticity, having that core that I can lean back on, hey man, I'm a players player.

34:34 I'm an NFL lifetime PA member. Like, I'm a players player. I stay connected. I work well within the NFLPA community out here in Phoenix. We have a great chapter. Um we have men and women alongside me. Even in my current I'm in the fire department as well. So my life is it's all centered around the brotherhood.

34:55 I'm the eldest brother of of all my brother what six of us. I'm the eldest of six. So I've always been a team player. So for me it's just just from one team to the next. I just keep going. You know what I mean? So, it's cool. I enjoy it. I thoroughly I thoroughly do.

35:09 And I want to know um obviously one of the best parts of when I when we spoke about um the agents and and everything we spoke about, how do you end up balancing obviously being a fierce negotiator for your clients and also trying to balance that with trying to, you know, being a mentor and a older brother and you know, figure as well.

35:29 Well, you know, I think we wear many hats, right? I mean, so not only am I technically the contract advisor or the agent, but I'm also a friend. I'm a confidant. I'm a brother. Um, I may have been a teammate, right? If we're on the same team, work on a teammate, right? They may come to me for

35:47 guidance, a counseling, a c sound counsel, you know, maybe on a personal situation. So, my job is to almost be like a risk management. I want my players to know and I want my my players families to know, you know what,

36:00 they're in good hands and I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that they stay in good hands.

36:05 They're important to me. I want to know about your family. I want to know the things that you you guys are into.

36:11 That's important to me, right? That's a value to me. You're more than just a client. You're my brother. You're doing exactly what I used to do. And I hope that that lineage continues to pass on. I hope I can pass it on to my son. He can pass it on to his son because then you really truly see the impact you can have by trying to get it done the right way.

36:31 I love that so much. And in your opinion then what's what's one story that you could say perfectly captures the the grind of being an agent right now?

36:42 One story because it is a grind. Oh my gosh, it's a grind. phone calls, traveling, like just

36:51 a story. Um I would say uh without names, but um yeah, you you you'll you'll run into some you'll run into some crazy scenarios. You get some crazy requests sometimes, you know, and then some players will just do some silly stuff, too. So, uh I think some of the silly stuff is a lot more funnier, you know. You're like, "Wait, you did what? Why? How did you get yourself in the way? What? Show me. Send me the picture, bro. Whoa, you did. That's crazy. So, that kind of stuff is the I think that's what makes me do it. I'm like, all you got to do is play football. Like, what are you doing right now? So,

37:32 because it's a learning curve, right? These young men are learning to assimilate into the real world. They This is a real job. It's no longer just, you know, football running around. And now with the NIL deal, the NIL space, which we can allude to and talk about later, these kids are now coming into the professional ranks.

37:50 Some of them are already millionaires for sure. 100,000 thousands without a doubt.

37:56 Kids are walking into the NFL with more than a half a million dollars in their bank accounts right now and maybe not the financial literacy um to manage it. You see what I mean? So I I get I get pleasure, you know, heckling them when they do silly stuff, just like poking them, teasing them like, "Oh, that's a rookie mistake." You know what I mean? Cuz you have rookie games within any any ranks. You know, me being a rookie agent, you know, there's a learning curve that I got to learn certain things how we go about certain business. When I was a rookie in the NFL, there was a certain way we went about things. You know what I mean? When I was a rookie in a fire department or a booter, we went about things a certain way. So I think in general, life is about being a rookie

38:35 over and over again. you you want to put yourself into something new, you got to be a rookie all over again and learn. And you want to pivot and change and do something else. Got to become a rookie again.

38:44 No, I love that. You know, it reminded me of a story when you said those are the things that make your, you know, the job so amazing as well. I don't know how much you follow European soccer.

38:53 I like European soccer. Do you know Jose Mourinho? I don't know him, but I love soccer.

38:57 I'm fascinated with it cuz I can't do it. No, he's one of the most profound like managers in Europe. like he's he's from Portugal, he's coached Chelsea, he's broken almost all the records as well. And they asked him, "What's one of like the craziest stories that you've ever experienced?" Like the crazy ones that make the best experiences cuz just to, you know, summarize the story, there was a a striker he had, Mario Balotelli. And

39:22 that's my guy with the gold mohawk from Italy. Balotelli. That's the guy. So I like him. So yes, he he's saying he's like I tell you right now if you hear the story about you're going to think it's crazy. So he starts talking said listen

39:36 Bellate has got a very big personality but he's very hardworking. Yes. So they go to this one team in in in Italy and like right now he's got no other strikers. Belotelli received a yellow card. You know obviously in soccer the rules are there's one yellow card. If you receive another yellow card you get a red card. Then you're out.

39:54 So he said but got a yellow card and then it's halfime. You only get 15 minutes. He spends 14 minutes not talking to the team. Putting Betatelli aside. Listen, Bellotelli, I have no striker. Balotelli, this player's injured. I need you. Botelli, if anything happens, just move your leg. Don't kick him. Don't do anything. All right. Do you understand the assignment? Ballet is like, yes, coach. All right. So, then he spends one minute like everyone know, hey, listen, we're going to play blah blah blah. He goes outside first minuteelli red card. So the waste the whole time. Thank you, Mario.

40:30 He said after them, he's never laughed so hard at the thing because like, you know, sometimes people just do what they're going to do. So I had to share that with, you know, with

40:38 funny to me, dude, cuz I can see Balotelli and his personality like this the whole time. Coach is looking at him. He's like, "Yes, coach. Yes, coach. Look, yes, coach." He's just going over his head and as soon as the whistle blows, he runs out there and just kicks the dude.

40:50 He kicks the guy. And the coach is like, "Really, bro? I just talked to you for 15 minutes." And he laughed so hard cuz you you don't ever see Josie like sometime he's very chill but he's like at that point nothing you can do you can't laugh it off too man

41:03 that's a good story I like to see I like stories like that because that's you see the personality like dude that's actually funny I can see him doing that

41:10 so I'm happy you named his name because that was like the only reason I would play FIFA cuz I want to play Botelli.

41:15 He's a good striker you know you just press the O button you can just shoot all

41:20 rockets bro. Yeah been like Beckham. Now he's killed my team a few times because I'm Man United. He was Man City, so they beat us 6-1 with the whole why me kind of thing.

41:29 Oh yeah, I do remember that. That is on my bucket list to go to a Premier League game or to go to a European soccer game. I like Bayern Munich. I like the Wendowski,

41:40 you know what I mean? I like um I like some of the older older players when I was growing up watching, but I grew up watching of course the LA Galaxy just Kobe Jones.

41:48 I mean, Slotton was there. Landon Donovan, Landon Donovan in Seattle was good. I got a chance to watch him.

41:53 We got a chance to check those guys out. Uh Eddie Johnson got a chance to watch him when he was younger.

41:58 And then next year is the World Cup as well. So like, yeah, we'll see what happens. But right now, the team USA needs to get a little better cuz they've been losing every damn game. Every time I watch him, I'm like, let's watch these guys.

42:07 Yeah, they look got to put LeBron in that team or something, bro. Yeah, I'm sure it's a LeBron James soccer somewhere. What happened to Freddy and do man? Where my man Freddy? Where Freddy go?

42:17 It's one of us out there. There's a LeBron of soccer out there. There is. Yeah, there probably somewhere. He's yet to be found, but he's

42:22 probably Christian Pulus. Just one guy that plays in in Europe, AC Milan. Yeah.

42:27 Okay. Like I liked him. I had another I was very curious, you know, I'm always like fascinated cuz especially with your role right now being an an agent. What are some of the things that you prepare the younger people that are jumping in the NFL because those are the ones sometimes that lack a lot of mentorship? What are some of the stuff that you can teach them that nobody warns them about?

42:48 Um, oh, very good question. Of course, the financial pitfalls. I think that is the first thing that needs to be addressed. Understand you're getting ready to come into your financial prime kid in your 20s. Most adults don't come into their financial prime until their late 40s, 50s, right? So, you're going to get ready to make more money than your parents and your family has ever ever accounted for right now instantly. That can be overwhelming. What do you do? How do you go about it? How do you manage it? Do you splurge? Do you save? Do you you still want to enjoy the fruits of your labor, but understanding how to have that balance, how to navigate that space, I think that's of grave importance.

43:29 There wasn't many, I guess I want to say programs or resources. I mean, they would talk to you, right? Uh back then during that CBA and then in the 2012 CBA. Um and now we're in the 2020 to 2030 CBA. But we've done a better job. The NFL trust has come in as a liaison between the NFL players union and the NFL to basically orchestrate and help players not only transition but understand what resources they have available

43:55 at all times from a financial standpoint to a emotional standpoint, spiritual standpoint all the way down to a family health and wellness standpoint.

44:04 Um, so there's tons and tons of resources. We're at a time now where for NFL players to be doing bad as people say quote unquote. Um that's a choice because we have the resources now. We have the trust. We have the player benefits. We have um the NFLPA. We have the former players. We have the professional athletes outreach. We have FCA. We have every single thing under the sun that is dedicated to helping

44:32 men either transition in or transition out or sustain and maintain throughout their entire NFL career.

44:39 So the days of we don't have the help, it's long gone. Now it's a matter of we need to start using it. We need to make it more more available, more known. We need to blast it more. And I think they do a good job of getting it out there, but there's always just that small portion of the individual that may not know about the information. But uh yeah.

44:58 But are they let known like when they joining the thing or is it the agent's responsibility to let

45:02 It's not the agent's responsibility. I mean I do that just naturally, but the players are now starting to understand. That's why I'm talking about the resources. The resources reach out. They come physically to the team's locker rooms, physically to the team's multi-purpose rooms, meeting rooms, and have seminars and say, "Hey, here's what we've here's what we have available. Here's a resource that available to you and your family, to your wife, the healthy baby program, the prenatal care, any and everything. Here's what we offer." So, there's things that I like to to offer them as a former player, but there's we're so resourceri now that there isn't an excuse anymore on why our players should be making bad decisions.

45:40 We have every resource possible now. And again, there was a human component. We get that. But

45:46 the NFL is doing a great job as far as taking care of young men post and like I said, transitioning and but again, the financial literacy portion of it

45:56 is probably the most paramount because that is the kicker. You you seen the the the shows what broke, right? The NFL, the 30 for 30 back in the day. You know what I mean? Like I think

46:07 Yeah. that that is the scary factor and especially now with the NIO. The NIO is just the wild wild west. There's not much regulation with the NIO. I mean, there's there's starting to be more, but um yeah, they just had a new settlement, of course. You probably heard about that with the $2.8 billion settlement with NCAA versus the house, meaning that all former college players beginning

46:29 uh yesterday, July 1. Um that they could uh today, July 1. Today, today actually today

46:38 former players from 2016 to 2024 can be paid. They can be back paid for their time and their service.

46:45 And moving forward, the 22 million that could be allotted for each team they could take a part of, not in addition to whatever collectives that universities have

46:54 that lay on the outside that want to contribute. So there's a lot of big money to be made. So again, the financial literacy component is huge.

47:03 It's huge. tell a kid who's going from eating Top Ramen to, hey, he can eat at the top of the building now,

47:10 how do they handle that? Yeah. Eating top tier now. Everything, you know, and so that is what I think really weighs on my mind most of the time when it comes to these players. Hey,

47:20 manage your money. Yeah. Because we've all seen it happen before. You can same way you have a lot, the same way it can be gone.

47:26 Yeah. It's true. Cuz I mean, when you get accustomed to swiping right now, like I swipe so much, I just swipe with the spirit. I just close my eyes hoping it decline. You know what I'm saying?

47:34 Some people don't even swipe. Like I use my my my my watch. I don't even take my wallet at all. I just tap my watch and just

47:39 I named my car Jesus take the wheel. Just go by the Atlanta. Look at that bank statement from Jesus take the wheel. Jesus take the wheel. He's active today. Oh my god.

47:51 If it declines, you know, Jesus take the wheel. If it declines, you know what to do. You see my man Jesus got me. I'm

47:59 Oh man, that's funny. That's awesome, man. Yeah. Look at the Skittles. Is that a Is that a tribute to Maran? Hey yo, Beast Mo.

48:06 No. No. I saw them. You see these right here, man. Hey, man. Put Put the camera on him right there. See the beast mode? Put your leg on them. Show them your leg. I know you athletic. Look at that. Look at that. That man got on some Skittles.

48:18 No, I saw them and I was like I didn't even hesitate when I end up like seeing them like I got to get those Skittles socks, you know.

48:24 Yeah. And they just stood out. I want to know um I've always been so curious. Um, and also one of the things I did love so much about you, I could tell that you've always had a student mentality. Like you always look for mentors when you were playing in football, when you were jumping there, you surrounding yourself with the Hall of Famers, just the great people as well.

48:41 Um, my question with that, was there a mentor in this NFL agent route that you've had that that has done it before?

48:50 Oh, yeah. It's my agent. My my actual former agent, both of my agents, actually. I just spoke to my my first agent yesterday and then my former agent, my most recent one.

49:00 And why is mentorship important? Just to follow up after you asked that. Uh well, yeah, I'll name him first. It's uh Jason Dillard or JD and then uh he's out of Sacramento. I was my very first agent. It's my agent I took to the Super Bowl with me. Him and my dad were in the end zone, you know, hanging out in Snoopaloop, hanging out, having a good time. And then my other agent, Cameron Foster. Um those two gentlemen were a wealth of knowledge. Cameron even more so. This was Cameron's his past draft was Cameron Foster's 35th draft.

49:30 His 35th draft. He's been doing it for a long time. Another gentleman that I have that's a mentor of mine, Steve Weinberg. This was his 40th or 41st draft. He I think he was the first certified NFL PA agent when they started certifying agents. I think back in like 1984 or something like that. Crazy. So, it's good to have gentlemen like that that you can pick their brain. They can give you little nuances about the business. They can tell you who you need to call, right? If you're a new agent, okay, cool. I like to represent you, KG. All right. Well, call somebody. Well, who do I call? Or what do I look in the rolodex? And the directory, who am I looking for? Is the player personnel? Is it director? Is it the scout? Is it the yada yada yada? Right? So, having mentors, they can help you

50:14 kind of skip steps. No, here. Here's this the contact for this guy. Let me talk to this guy. Or, hey, I got a great relationship with so and so. maybe you should have a right on. So they're the mentors that I've always surrounded myself with in life have always been gentlemen who've done exactly what I'm trying to do.

50:30 And it's not that I'm seeking them. It's just somehow someway they always seem to fall right into my lap because the universe don't miss

50:37 and I'll just happen to rub shoulders with them and next thing you know it's a conversation and cool I'm in to a whole another trajectory, whole another lineal opportunities open up.

50:47 That's take advantage of. Now, I mean, where do you also identify this the talent that because I've watched All American and I love the like the series and stuff, but then I always realize there's always some of these underprivileged, you know, schools or like high schools before they go to college, whatever it may be, where you could get this potential talent that nobody can discover. Where what's what are the tools or use or how do you discover this talent?

51:11 Well, well, you know, I think um there's talent everywhere. You know what I mean? Nowadays with the internet, you can have access and accessibility to talent any and everywhere across the globe. Kids are uploading their highlight tapes, their plays. I mean, in rapid time, literally it happens. It's out on the internet, sometimes live. And so, uh, you know, I use every tool possible, social media, uh, you can tap into warm referrals, you know, family members, clients. Hey man, my buddy like what you do for me. Amen.

51:44 I think you should. Okay, cool, man. But this business is built off of relationships. I'm a bridge builder. My entire life I've been a bridge builder. I build bridges with the intent to keep the bridge because you never know who behind you may need to cross that bridge.

51:58 You never know. You may need to go back across that bridge. Somebody who came before you may want to, hey, Roy, remember that bridge? Oh, it's right there. You may

52:06 transition them into another direction. So, I'm a bridge builder and that's all I you doing. So, all my mentors are the same way. We build bridges with one another. We build bridges throughout our community with the goal is to each one reach one. Each one teach one, right? And we lift as we climb. One come up, we pull the next one up. Hey young man, this is how I did it. This is how this is how we go about the business. And so that holds dear to me. So I love my mentors. I unfortunately it's funny. I won't say unfortunately. I had to learn that I was a natural mentor. Sometimes you don't want to accept what you really are. You know what I mean? You want to do what everybody else do. when um

52:41 goes back to calling again what we were talking about earlier calling right sometimes I had to realize like I can't just do everything I got to be a mentor and people keep coming to me for advice I'm like why you keep asking me I want to you know what I mean but once I accepted that and understood that um and grew into that it just catapulted me because it's like I don't know my mentors that I speak with they impart knowledge on me and by the time I talk to someone who wants to speak to me it's like their words just flow right through me too

53:06 you know what I mean so each one is reaching one it's a cool it's a full dichotomy. It's the craziest thing ever, man. I'm like, right on. So, I enjoy being a mentor, a father figure, a teammate, an agent. Um, I can wear any cap you need me to wear. That's exactly what I'm here for.

53:23 No, that's awesome. You know what I mean? What goes on? I know you've done it for two seasons and you still have so much experience in it, but what goes on in like contract negotiations, you know, cuz

53:33 it's really boring. Just so you know, it's boring. It's not as exciting as people think it's done. But

53:40 is one of those like the the manager picks up the thing. No, I said I want to give him that amount. No, I give him that amount. It's like throw something in the air up. Is it that intense or is it just like

53:49 No, I mean there can be some heated moments. I would assume, you know, for some for some contracts and certain players. Uh but yeah, it's business. It's legality, you know. It's it's legal ease.

54:01 It's contractual jargon that you're well verssed on knowing and that you're conditioning to look for. And then you go forth and you say you set together a plan. You understand you make sure that your client understands what that game plan is that the team is on board as well

54:18 and then the offer is made and vice versa you know but there's certain things that certain times there's

54:24 things that don't need to be explained. we already know like okay this must be included like you know these are certain incentives that may or may not need to be included based off the player you know what I mean the team um the situation and so I mean you learn those things along the way you know

54:40 and who has most of the say is it like the the the player or is it the agent cuz sometimes I feel like agents um have got so much influence that we don't really understand like or is it both parties that come to an agreement before then

54:51 so ultimately I would say this ultimately the player has the leverage. The agent is just a liaison between the player and the team. Have you noticed in recent years if a player has enough status, he can represent himself? Look at Richard Sherman. I love Sherman. It's my dog. Wing Ram Sherman.

55:07 Look, boy. Um, yeah, he represent himself. Why not? He has the wherewithal. He has the knowledge, too. He's a Stanford grad. He understands the business. Yes, I can represent myself cuz I'm not going to get myself into anything crazy. And if I do, guess what? I can easily always call NFLPA and say, "Hey, would you mind looking over this contract for me?" They will comb through the contract with fine tooth comb to make sure there's no inconsistencies, any discrepancies, make sure there's no any, you know, misrepresentations, and then send it back. And so, that's that's the business side of it. You know what I mean? So, um I don't think that

55:43 people really understand business is business, and it will be conducted like business. You don't see big business people arguing and yelling and screaming. Nah, we going to sit down. We're going to pass a envelope across the table. You open it up, you look at it. H boy, whispers and

56:00 you know what I mean? That's sometimes is how it is. And then sometimes you come in there, it's there. It's fine.

56:06 The reason I asked that, um, cuz I love sports so much I think I've shared so many different stuff but I always follow it's crazy like

56:15 when I do so much I travel but like what I what brings a lot of like a bit more calming down cuz as much as I do my podcasting stuff I research my like the guests that I do like and look make it very personal questions whenever I I finish here I listen to like just sports stuff like I'll listen to like a soccer thing and it's like oh the agent should have negotiated that and that the reason I'm bringing that up the Dennis Schroeda situation I don't know if you remember what happened between

56:38 what happened with the the Hooper yeah with the gold patch I Yeah. Yeah. Um, same thing from Germany. But what happened in his scenario, I think the Lakers, I'm just paraphrasing here, they had a contract on the table for him. Uh, but they they were trying to be a little bit more greedy where they said they could get more. They could get more. They could get more. I can't remember what the figure was. Could have been 60 million or something what like that like 4 year extension. And then it just went off the table. Then I think he ended up settling for the Celtics for like a 6 million.

57:04 I remember that for one season. Yes. Yeah. And so it was blamed at the time on the agent. I think there was a conflict of or like there was misunderstanding between player and agent. But from some someone that was almost guaranteed it could have been 60 70 or 80. I can't remember what it was but it was a four five year contract. Yeah.

57:20 And so that's why I asked that cuz I've always been curious. I'm like wow like if he's blaming the age and the agent's like no it's he like it's like there was a bit of disparity or or misunderstanding or some conflict there. So I'm like, gosh, that's when I realized like agents, yes, as much as you the liazison, like they still play a big role.

57:38 Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And and I think there there are some cases where agents will mismanage clients. They will mismanage situations. Um that comes with the territory, right? There's not a right or wrong answer. It's just

57:52 if the situation works, we can make it work. If it can't, then both parties have to kind of agree to disagree until a deal gets done. That's why you see so many players hold out some. So often during training camp, you see players say, "Well, I'm not going to do this." Because it's just a matter of, "Hey, you're not willing to work with me and get this compromise." We're trying to get we're trying to be made whole. The whole goal is to be made whole to get a contract so guys can go out there and play football. But

58:16 sometimes the number game, and by number game, I mean this game will hold up and tie up things. You know what I mean? And so you'll see players almost advocate for themselves. And it's not that the agent can't, but ultimately the player holds the weight because if the player's not happy, then the team's not going to be happy. If he's an integral part of the team, then that means the fans not going to be happy. And as an owner, if the fans not happy, like during a lockout when fans started to retract their season tickets because, oh, you guys going to lock our players out of their locker room, then we ain't coming to the games then.

58:51 Again, this goes back again to the fact that you've been a player and you understand the game.

58:55 I understand that game. So, I understand that you you keep the masses happy. Keep the masses happy. I always tell my players, the fans are here to see you. They're not here to see the agent. They're not here to see me anymore. They're not here to see the owner. They're here to see you. You guys, you guys make this ship go. Understand the buying power of the players. You have power. You have leverage. You can make this thing going. Now, we're at a point where we're more than 50% of the revenue share. players are getting compensated well. Um, NIO is great, benefits are great. We've reduced so many um, I would say statute of limitations as far as getting guys vested and what the benefits that they do acrew. So, um, yeah, we're we're moving in the right direction. Pretty soon it should be the NFL, Lord willing, we want to get to how the NBA and MLB fully guaranteed, you know what I mean?

59:55 You're protected. That's the goal is to have guys protected. We want guys protected all the time, not just some of the time. We want him he signs out of line, he's protected. Him and his family is protected right now, not backloaded in the hope that he make it to year five so we can give him the big lump sum. No,

1:00:12 take care of him now. You know what I mean? Because you see baseball players, they play for a long time. They're happy. They're they just doing their thing because the money's good.

1:00:21 Football players, we scrapping sometimes. Sometimes it's a dog fight, you know what I mean? It's a dog fight within amongst teams just to be able to fit all the good players on the roster and to financially accommodate them properly. It's like, man, I know I got a superstar here, superstar here, K, I can't pay all of them. I don't want to let so and so go, but I have to because I got to pay KG.

1:00:45 I have to pay. He's my guy, but he's my guy, too. But, so it becomes that, you know what I mean? So, and then sometimes you'll get players who will take that sacrifice as well, right? That that's that's that's on a player. Hey, man, you know what? I'm I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of money to win. I'm willing to sacrifice. Look, I got money. I don't need the accolades. I want to win.

1:01:08 The winning is why we play the game. There's not one player who ever say, "I'm just playing for the money." Okay, you won't be playing for long. you won't be playing for long because it'll seep through dudes out. It'll be like blood in the water. Dudes like, man, he don't care.

1:01:23 He don't care about it. He's just out here. We don't like that. I don't know how else to say we don't like that, but we don't get down, you know what I mean? We We're here for the game, for the love of the game. Most players would play the game for free if we could, you know, but

1:01:36 because people just love it, you know? Love it. Same way you probably play soccer. You play football on the pitch.

1:01:41 Thank you for saying football, you know. I got you. You know, I got some I got some I got some mates. I got some B, you know.

1:01:47 Now, we'll go to England. I was talking to her about it. We're going to try and go get a catch a game Premier League one of these times. So,

1:01:52 I want to go. Let's do it. Let's do it. I want to see some I'm forever blowing bubbles. I want to see

1:01:59 I want to start sending you reals of send huligans out there. Oo loves soccer. Yeah. No,

1:02:10 it's a religion down there, you know. He's soccer god. So, Yeah, it's a cool thing.

1:02:15 No, sports just unifies people, you know? Whenever I'm depressed, I watch sports.

1:02:20 That's my therapy right there. But sometimes they bloody lose. I'm like, "Luca, shoot the damn ball."

1:02:25 Come on, Luka. Shoot the joke. No, I I I agree. It's um it's an outlet. It's therapeutic,

1:02:32 you know? It um for me, it's just always been like my sanctuary, man. No matter. I keep I keep cleat in my car. My fans know I don't want to give it up. I keep cleat in my car. I keep two pairs, too, just in case somebody feeling froggy, they still want to race and get down. But yeah, it's just a part of me. It's a part of my fabric, man. And um

1:02:51 I enjoy it. I really do. I enjoy talking about it. I enjoy what it's given me, the lifestyle it's given me. I enjoy what it's allowed me to see, the people it's allowed me to touch. I've used football as a vehicle to literally put my feet on different continents that I only read about when I was in elementary, middle school, high school, and college.

1:03:15 Oh, literally. So, I always ask this question. This my my concluding question cuz

1:03:22 he's like, "We haven't even started the question. We haven't even started down. Let's keep going. We can talk all day about this. I can come back and chill out and maybe bring some people, too, man."

1:03:30 I appreciate that. Thank you so much. Got a nice little honey ho. I like it. You know, because the podcast, I I've always loved the term winning and and I think every time I've interviewed people, uh, they always have a different perspective to what the actual term means. For Roy Lewis, what does the term winning mean for you?

1:03:50 Hound. To hound your adversary. That means anything. It could be a life problem. It could be a stress problem. It could be a competitor. You hound your adversary, your opponent unmercifully until they know and understand that you're physically, mentally, emotionally stronger.

1:04:09 You just held and you just kept poking. You keep poking. I said it's an undying will to be successful. That's what winning is. It's habitual. It's what you think. It's how you act. It's how you carry yourself. It's everything. It's winning. That's it. It's not that I even hate losing. I just love winning because winners love to win.

1:04:31 Winning is a way of life. You install that. You download that code and then you polish it by success. Every little success you get, you polishing it. Polishing it. Just shining it up. Shining it up. And you look at like nice. And then after you now you protect it. You protect that energy. You protect that mindset. You give it away to the the ones that you need. You sprinkle it on them so that they can can come in. But you protect it because that is your fire. That's my aura. Winning. Everything I touch, I win.

1:05:08 Period. No matter what it is. I don't even have to know about it. But my mindset is so open to winning that I'm willing to learn whatever it is I have to learn in order to be successful at it. That's winning. You know,

1:05:21 winners do what losers refuse to. That's being open to learning a new skill, reading a new book, hearing from a new author, whatever it is, you're you're open. The moment you cut yourself off from learning, you start dying. Learning is winning. The more you learn, the more you earn, the more you win. I'm winning at life. It don't matter how small, how minute, how micro it is, how macro it is. If it's something new that you learn, that's winning. You won today.

1:05:52 I fed it. Facking the wins. Said if I could uh just drop the mic down there and just hit the podcast right there and then. That was that was absolute poetic. You're the modern day Shakespeare as well.

1:06:02 But my teacher would be very impressed. Yes, you hear that. Uh Mrs. Bernstein, she said I was going to be a Renaissance man back in 8th grade. I didn't know what that mean, but yes, I know what that means now. But no, seriously, man. It's just like what you're doing. The code to winning. This is winning. I don't think you understand. This is win. This is powerful. This is added value, right? To want to be able to delve deep into other people's career paths and say, "Hey, man, teach me about what you do. Here's what I like to do. I like to figure out what you like to do."

1:06:32 Cool. And it serves a purpose because every time you interview someone, tap more nuggets into your

1:06:38 Exactly. your aura. Your coach winning this, you got to roll it. Okay. NFL player, some soul, profession. Yeah, you got all this.

1:06:47 I'm getting a chum full of the memory. And you can tap into that winning. So when you come across somebody who may need a little bit of that information in your park,

1:06:56 you just sprinkle a little bit on them. A little winning on them. There you go. Let me touch you with this jewel, bro. That I learned from this. Bingo. That's the code to winning.

1:07:04 I love that. I love the code. Roy, if you could let our our viewers know over there if where they could get a hold of you, maybe follow you and

1:07:12 uh just call me on my phone. my number and stuff. 3059. What's the new song that Drake Dre got?

1:07:20 Baby girl. That's the song. That's the I just saw him running stuff like that. Pop open the Noia phone. I think that's what No.

1:07:26 Oh, it is. No. Yeah, girl. I don't I don't know the word girl. I like it for the whole world.

1:07:34 But uh no, I'm just normal social media. Uh Facebook, uh Instagram, Twitter. Even though I'm not really that active, I I will use my Instagram, but I'm really old school, but I am going to tap back into my platforms, just so you know. Let me get my IG. Get it going. The code to winning.

1:07:53 Perfect. KG's going to teach me how to rock it, right? Let's go. The code to winning insights you need today to seize the world tomorrow. Your man, my man, your guy, Roy Lewis. Thank you very much, boss.

1:08:03 Appreciate you, brother. One love, my friend. There you go. Excellent.

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Roy Lewis reflects on his journey from a late start in football during middle school to winning a Super Bowl as a rookie with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He discusses the pivotal mindset shifts that fueled his rise from high school standout to NFL player, and shares insights into the intense atmosphere and dedication required to achieve success at the highest level of professional sports.

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