Will Chiefs-Cowboys be the highest-rated regular season NFL game ever? 📱

What this episode is about

A lively Thanksgiving discussion centers on predicting whether the Chiefs-Cowboys game will be the highest-rated regular-season NFL matchup ever, while the host reflects on Thanksgiving traditions, food, and the blending of football with family gatherings. Key points include considering ratings potential and the host’s personal take on Thanksgiving, including its cultural dimensions and personal favorites.

Key takeaways

• Turkey-day irony: the show hypes progressivism while celebrating a holiday born from colonial foibles, then serves authenticity via fried chitlins.
• Food, football, and family dominate Thanksgiving, yet the real plot twist is LA transit chaos turning grocery runs into epics.
• Parks Meat Market becomes a cultural compass: neighborhood lore, underground seasonings, and a reminder that supply lines equal identity.
• Transplant perspective matters: local rituals reveal how communities sustain themselves when media personas collide with real-life errands.
• The 'regular person' brag doubles as a sociology lesson: small-town rituals exist anywhere, even amid LA’s glitz and cops.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Jamal Hill (Host) · 1 h 1 min speaking
• Latasha Brown (Guest) · 5 min speaking
• Unidentified (Guest) · 21 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 10:00: Thanksgiving, Parks Meat Market, Los Angeles, Jamal Hill
2. 10:00 – 20:00: Chiefs, Cowboys, Thanksgiving, Eagles
3. 20:00 – 30:00: Eagles, Chiefs, Shador Sanders, Cowboys
4. 30:00 – 40:00: Shador Sanders, Jamal Hill, Kevin Stefanski, Dwayne Wade
5. 40:00 – 50:00: Shador Sanders, Angel Reese, Jamal Hill, Jackson Dart
6. 50:00 – 1:00:00: Angel Reese, Shador Sanders, O. J. Simpson, we ain't buying it
7. 1:00:00 – 1:10:00: we ain't buying it, DEI judge, COVID, Hassan Minaj
8. 1:10:00 – 1:20:00: we ain't buying it
9. 1:20:00 – 1:27:46: Thanksgiving

Notable quotes from "Will Chiefs-Cowboys be the highest-rated regular season NFL game ever? 📱"

• Treats, all the hog malls, all the collie greens, all of that is coming out on Thanksgiving. Hence why I love it. It combines two of my favorite things, food and football. And…

  about Thanksgiving · at 2:02

• From me, a dude was back there, and he was Oh, I was just here. They up here because somebody inside of parks was waving a knife out around and threatening to stab people. I…

  about Parks Meat Market · at 7:35

• Moment are going to be the ones that show up. because what you said a Davis here is the biggest concern. The Cowboys always find a way to step on their own foot. and as many of…

  about Cowboys · at 18:35

• Good position, especially when you think of like how bad they started in this game, you would be doing yourself a serious disservice if you counted out the Kansas City Chiefs.…

  about Chiefs · at 21:22

• Is I made mention of this the other day is the conversation around Shadur is exhausting because it's too extreme on both sides. You have people who are I think attacking Shadura's character unnecessarily about things that have.

  about Shador Sanders · at 34:24

• On Yeah, I was on lear today is I have to really watch what I say about Shador Sanders. And the reason why I do because I realize that so many of our people love him to an extent, protect him to an extent that it's irrational.

  about Jamal Hill · at 38:20

• So, one of the initiatives that Latasha is behind and there's other people behind this too is called we ain't buying it.com.

  about Latasha Brown · at 59:33

• In their policy mentality and how they do things, but they can still collect our money. So for the cheap seats, we ain't buying it. That's the whole vibe from November 27th to December 1st.

  about we ain't buying it · at 1:02:07

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Jamal Hill — Person · Host · 5 mentions · first at 0:05
  He hosts the Thanksgiving edition of Spolitics Live, narrates personal Thanksgiving stories, and leads discussions on NFL games, Shador Sanders discourse, and consumer boycotts tied to DEI.
• Shador Sanders — Person · Core topic (cultural/sports debate subject) · 19 mentions · first at 29:08
  Jamal critiques extreme narratives around Sanders (both pro and anti), discusses his NFL situation in Cleveland, and analyzes why parts of the Black community defend him intensely.
• Latasha Brown — Person · Referenced organizer / campaign leader · 1 mention · first at 59:07
  Introduced as co-founder of Black Voters Matter and a leader behind the 'we ain't buying it' initiative encouraging boycott and local spending.
• Angel Reese — Person · Referenced comparison / cultural discourse example · 9 mentions · first at 40:39
  Used as an analogy for community 'protectionism' similar to Shador Sanders; Jamal also addresses misinformation about quotes attributed to her.
  Happens. And this is this speaks to and I'm glad you brought up Angel Reese because Angel Reese is actually a very similar comparison to Shadura Sanders in some ways. And I'm gonna tell you why in a minute. But here's the thing. time 18188.
• O. J. Simpson — Person · Referenced historical example · 2 mentions · first at 54:59
  Used to explain how communities sometimes elevate individuals symbolically (criminal justice system critique) independent of the individual's personal alignment with the community.
  That was the point. It's like the point wasn't it didn't have anything to do with OJ. It had everything to do with the fact that for a lot of black people, it was the opportunity to finally get one up on a justice system that has.
• Kevin Stefanski — Person · Referenced coach (criticized) · 1 mention · first at 33:11
  Jamal criticizes Stefanski's handling of the Browns QB situation, arguing he prioritizes being right about Dylan Gabriel over starting Shador Sanders.
  Then you need to figure out what you have at this position. And it has also been obvious to me that Kevin Stfansky would rather be right than do in some respect what's good for his football team. I always said this about players.
• Jackson Dart — Person · Referenced comparison point (race/media scrutiny) · 2 mentions · first at 45:52
  Used to illustrate how confident white athletes are treated differently than Black athletes; Jamal cites jewelry and media reaction differences.
  But if he were if Jackson Dart was black and in New York, come on now. It'd be entire stories and think pieces about his behavior.
• Caleb Williams — Person · Referenced player (Bears QB) · 1 mention · first at 24:29
  Discussed as showing growth; part of Jamal's Bears vs Eagles analysis about trust and development under coach Ben Johnson.
  Good meaning like do we really believe that the Bears are good? And I think there's no doubt that Caleb Williams has been incredibly like his growth has you see it you see…
• Dwayne Wade — Person · Referenced example of leadership/sacrifice · 1 mention · first at 31:40
  Used as an NBA example of a star who adjusted his role for team success with LeBron, contrasting with 'win my way' mentality.
  Give you an example. When the Miami Heat, when the Heles came together with Chris Bosch and LeBron James and D Wayade, I always thought they were going to work because they all wanted to play together. They wanted it to work, right?
• Jerry Jones — Person · Referenced team owner/executive · 1 mention · first at 15:43
  Mentioned as making 'nifty moves' that improved Cowboys defense, part of the Cowboys' upswing narrative.
  Has performed all season. We've also seen after Jerry made some nift Jerry as in Jerry Jones made some nifty moves, we also understand that the Cowboys defense has performed a…
• Stacy Abrams — Person · Referenced political figure · 1 mention · first at 59:16
  Mentioned as part of the explanation for Georgia turning blue, alongside Black Voters Matter's organizing.
  Stacy Abrams certainly has something to do with that, but so did Black Voters Matter. They had a lot to do with it.
• Hassan Minaj — Person · Referenced commentator · 1 mention · first at 1:03:25
  Quoted for an observation about civil rights movements: Black people lead and others 'get sent the email,' used to discuss coalition benefits of civil rights laws.
  Them end the we need to ask for help for us. Well here's the thing is the reason why other people Hassan Minaj the comedian and cultural commentator said something to me one…
• Raphael Warnock — Person · Referenced elected official · 1 mention
  Cited as an outcome of Georgia organizing efforts attributed partly to Black Voters Matter.
  They were doing the work on the ground, getting people engaged. It's a big reason why you have Reverend Raphael Waro as a senator and just the change, the blue change that you've seen in Georgia.

Companies & orgs

• Chiefs — Company · Core sports topic (NFL team discussed) · 11 mentions · first at 14:22
  Jamal analyzes Chiefs vs Cowboys as the marquee Thanksgiving matchup and argues the Chiefs are more trustworthy due to Patrick Mahomes.
• Cowboys — Company · Core sports topic (NFL team discussed) · 10 mentions · first at 14:22
  Discussed as Chiefs' Thanksgiving opponent; Jamal notes Cowboys' tendency to self-sabotage and references Jerry Jones' moves and Dak Prescott scrutiny.
• Parks Meat Market — Company · Referenced local business / story setting · 4 mentions · first at 3:14
  Central to Jamal's pre-Thanksgiving story about shopping for turkey parts in LA and witnessing police presence after a knife incident.
• Eagles — Company · NFL game discussed · 11 mentions · first at 14:37
  Jamal discusses the media narrative 'what's wrong with the Eagles' and predicts they will 'make a statement' vs the Bears.
  That we have on Thanksgiving, we got Packers, Lions, we got Bengals, Ravens, and we also have Bears Eagles. So, good matchups for the most part all around. Bengals and Ravens…
• Lions — Company · NFL game discussed · 2 mentions · first at 14:47
  Jamal picks the Lions to win at home on Thanksgiving and notes her husband's lifelong Lions fandom and Detroit atmosphere.
  Around. Bengals and Ravens eh Packers and Lions. That's gonna be a good win to send in Detroit. My husband's very excited as a lifelong Lions fan. But Chiefs Cowboys, everybody…
• Black Voters Matter — Company · Referenced organization · 1 mention · first at 59:09
  Cited as instrumental in Georgia's political shift and in electing Raphael Warnock; connected to the 'we ain't buying it' campaign via Latasha Brown.
  Bring you guys' attention to and a good friend of mine, Latasha Brown, she is the co-founder of a great organization called Black Voters Matter.
• Packers — Company · NFL game discussed · 3 mentions · first at 14:32
  Discussed as part of the Thanksgiving slate (Packers vs Lions), with Jamal expressing distrust/uncertainty about the Packers.
  And in case you guys, are unaware about the other NFL matchups that we have on Thanksgiving, we got Packers, Lions, we got Bengals, Ravens, and we also have Bears Eagles. So…
• Bengals — Company · NFL game mentioned · 2 mentions · first at 14:34
  Mentioned as part of the Thanksgiving slate (Bengals vs Ravens), with Jamal quickly favoring the Ravens.
  Oh, Bengals Ravens. should we even bother? Ravens. Look it. Love it.
• Braid Your Way — Company · Referenced local business · 1 mention · first at 3:30
  Jamal shouts out her braider's business as part of describing community ties in Inglewood/Manchester area.
  The pandemic, Parks Meat Market, saving grace. My braider who's also on that side of town, also in Englewood, shout out to Braid Your Way, my girl Martha on Manchester as well.…

Concepts & topics

• we ain't buying it — Concept · Core call-to-action / campaign slogan · 8 mentions · first at 59:39
  Central consumer-activism theme encouraging a boycott of big-box stores and redirecting spending to local/Black-owned businesses.
• DEI judge — Concept · Core political topic · 2 mentions · first at 1:00:38
  DEI rollbacks are presented as a key reason for boycotting big-box retailers; Jamal argues DEI has been racialized and used to justify disrespect toward Black consumers.
  About DEI. It's because it is signaling a mentality to where they think because right or wrong, black people have been made to be the face of DEI.

Places & events

• Thanksgiving — Event · Core topic / framing event · 20 mentions · first at 0:03
  The episode is explicitly a Thanksgiving edition, used to frame personal anecdotes (food, shopping, dessert mishap) and the slate of Thanksgiving NFL games.
• Los Angeles — Place · Setting · 4 mentions · first at 2:29
  Jamal situates his Thanksgiving prep and local business references (Parks Meat Market, Inglewood, West Hollywood) in Los Angeles.
  Black neighborhood since I left Detroit because of where my different travels have taken me. And even when I first moved to LA, I lived in West Hollywood, which as we know, and…
• COVID — Event · Referenced context event · 1 mention · first at 1:05:34
  Referenced regarding the pandemic lockdown affecting Parks Meat Market operations and later in discussion of a bill studying anti-Asian discrimination during COVID.
  The answer is no, you don't. It's all under the same hate crime bill. All right. The COVID bill that was passed that specified about the number of crimes and of course the…
• Fourth of July — Event · Referenced comparison event · 1 mention · first at 1:19
  Mentioned briefly as another holiday associated with eating, contrasted with Thanksgiving's food focus.
  With our family. And more importantly, this is a holiday that is purely built around eating. I know to some degree Fourth of July is too and other holidays, but for the most…

Media & podcasts

• SVU — Media · Pop-culture reference (abbreviation) · 1 mention · first at 12:25
  Referenced interchangeably with Law & Order SVU as Jamal jokes about being 'on the case' for her missing dessert.
  I'm I'm to I'm all in from SVU on there.
• Law and Order SVU — Media · Pop-culture reference · 1 mention · first at 12:28
  Used as a metaphor for Jamal tracking down her missing dessert shipment, invoking Olivia Benson as a 'detective' figure.
  Put down the wrong zip code. So, let me tell you how I done spent my morning. I have spent my morning tracking down the sweet potato cheesecake like I'm Olivia Benson in Law…
• First 48 — Media · Pop-culture reference · 1 mention · first at 12:37
  Used as another detective-show metaphor for Jamal's dessert tracking, referencing Carolyn Mason and other characters.
  I'm Carolyn Mason trying to find this sweet potato cheesecake and the cinnamon roll pound cake. So, y'all need to pray for me because I really want to find this cheesecake. All right, so now y'all.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:01 Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to another Thanksgiving edition of Spolitics Live. I am your host Jamal Hill. I never introduce myself when I do these things. Even though it says right there on your screen that I am the host of Spolitics Live, I feel like uh that I still should introduce myself. Anyway, I just want to know for all the people who are joining me now who are in the in the comments section, how is your pre-Thanksgiving going so far? I want to quickly before I dive into a few things about this particular um uh before I dive into a few of the things I want to talk about, let me tell you how my Thanksgiving is going so far.

0:44 For pure reference, Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. Now, I want people to understand that in this progressive space that I'm in, I recognize what Thanksgiving that we've been taught, it was all [ __ ] So, I completely recognize that there is a colonial element of Thanksgiving that cannot be overlooked or whatever. So, for me, it's not really about quote unquote Thanksgiving. It's about an excuse for a lot of us to get together with our family. And more importantly, this is a holiday that is purely built around eating. I know to some degree Fourth of July is too and other holidays, but for the most part Thanksgiving is about how much food you can consume. And because I live my big backness out loud and I'm not ashamed of it, I'm completely here for this holiday.

1:42 And when I was growing up, like a lot of kids, Christmas was always the favorite holiday, especially for me because my birthday was December 21st. So, it was like birthday, Christmas, and yes, I always got separate gifts. Story for another day. But the whole point is if you have any level of big backness in you, Thanksgiving is your time. All the treats, all the hog malls, all the collie greens, all of that is coming out on Thanksgiving. Hence why I love it. It combines two of my favorite things, food and football. And I guess if you want to say family, I don't mean to discount that and I don't mean to say that in a way to suggest that family is not important, but it does contain the three things. Food, family, football. That is all that Thanksgiving is about. Okay, so that being said, let me tell you how this Thanksgiving is going. So yesterday, as many of y'all know, I live in Los Angeles. And you

2:34 know what's so funny is that when I talk about how I move about this world outside of what y'all may see with me doing these YouTube lives or politics or whatever and you see me in other media spaces, I think some of you have it twisted that I don't move like a regular person. When I tell you I move like a regular person, that's what the hell I mean. I move like a regular person. So in LA, at least from what what I've been told on for my side of town, and if you are from Los Angeles, live in Los Angeles, you can certainly chime in.

3:08 Make sure to keep it continually popping in the comments section. So the best meat market on my side of town in Los Angeles is called Parks Meat Market. It's on Manchester. Everybody know it. And during the pandemic, it was really during when we in the lockdown part of the pandemic, Parks Meat Market, saving grace. My braider who's also on that side of town, also in Englewood, shout out to Braid Your Way, my girl Martha on Manchester as well. uh you know they told me about the meat market because one of the reasons why I still like going in the shop and I know a lot of brothers out there can identify with this because y'all go into the barber shop women we go to the braiding salon or you know we go into the good old hair shop good old beauty salon whatever either or we go to a salon is much like you all love the community experience I also love the community experience so I can figure out like what's going on

4:02 right and so they put me up on so much game they put me up on a lot of things in LA, especially with me being a transplant, I've only been here since 2018. So, there's a lot of things I need to be put up on. And one of the places they put me up on was Parks Meat Market in Englewood. So, I go to Parks. I've been there a few times already. Parks, the reason why Parks is the [ __ ] is because Parks got everything. They got everything from chitlins to hog malls to turkey to ground beef to pork loin. They got everything. And they got all the seasonings, too. And when I say all the seasonings, I don't mean just the stuff you might get in Kroger's or the things that you um you know might get at your general garden variety grocery store, depending on what part. If you in the South, Publix, Publix used to be my joint.

4:53 If you in the Midwest where I'm from, we got Meyers, we got, you know, Kroger's. We had We used to have Farmer Jacks. That's some old school stuff. Y'all don't know nothing about that. But wherever you live, it's like, you know what the normal season is? Like, nope. Parks is going to have the slap your mama. They going to have all of the underground seasonings that you don't you don't really find out there in the general populace. So, they got all the seasonings. They got all the accutra and they got all manner of meat, all of that. So, on Thanksgiving, y'all know it was going to be jumping. So, me, I try to be ahead of the game. So, I was like, you know what? I'mma roll the parks on Tuesday.

5:34 Um, and you know, just get in where I fit in. I roll to parks on Tuesday. I get up there line already outside the door. And this is not surprising cuz Parks is kind of a small place. So, they only let you in so many at a time. And during the pandemic, it was really crazy cuz like they was only letting like one or two people in this small little store at a time. But again, best meet I think on my side of town in LA. So, at any rate, Parks is lying outside the door. What I noticed when I roll up, it was like three cop cars out there and a fire truck. And I'm like, "All right, this is kind of weird." But the the cops and the fire truck, they just chilling. I get in line. The guy in front of me is a fireman. I was like, "Oh, I see what it is." They done made a run. They done made a run. They like, "You know what?

6:22 We we going to use our standing here in the community to get a little something here at parks cuz again, it's a line." And so I'm like, "I ain't think nothing of it or whatever." So I'm in line. We all chatting, you know, we in this communal community experience and a couple people recognized me and they were very surprised like what you doing up at Parks and I had to tell them like I don't live too far from here cuz despite what everybody may say about me or what people may assume about me, I live in a majority black neighborhood and I'm going just leave it at that. And for people, and I'm not saying if you don't live in a majority black neighborhood that that means something about or that's some kind of indictment about your blackness. But I'm saying for me, I live in a I live currently in a majority black neighborhood. And I'm proud of the fact that I do because I probably haven't lived in a majority

7:09 black neighborhood since I left Detroit because of where my different travels have taken me. And even when I first moved to LA, I lived in West Hollywood, which as we know, and anybody from LA knows, is not majority black. So anyway, I'm in parts, everybody. And I was like, "Hey y'all, uh, why the I was like, I see you here, but why the police up in here so strong?" And a few people back from me, a dude was back there, and he was like, "Oh, I was just here. They up here because somebody inside of parks was waving a knife out around and threatening to stab people. I was like, "Wait, I'm sorry. What? Somebody almost got stabbed up in here over some turkey?" So here, one of the reasons why Parks was off the hook is because of course if you go to any of the grocery stores, be it if you're in Los Angeles, Ralph, Vans, Bristol Farms, wherever, like they selling whole turkeys. What they're not selling is turkey pieces.

8:06 See, I needed some pieces because it's going to be a relatively small Thanksgiving this year. I didn't need a whole turkey. I just needed like a couple wings, drumstick or two, little bit of like I didn't need the whole production. And at parks, yo, you can get mediumsiz wing, small wing, big wing, big leg, what you can get whatever you want. So that is why I went to parks. And so my man was like, somebody I was like, somebody was in here TRYING TO STAB SOMEBODY. in parts and he was like, "Yeah, they" He's like, "I just left and then I just came back." And I was like, "If if that ain't my people, I don't know what is."

8:44 And me and my husband, we have talked about this before as it relates to I'm going try to pull my chair up while I'm talking y'all right now, but uh me and my me and my husband have talked about this about how when we were growing up, we both grew up in Detroit. Remember how you would hear about a club getting shot up or some incident, a fight, whatever? you'll be back the next week if not the next hour. YOU NEVER THOUGHT about my safety or whatever. And as I'm talking to my man who telling me somebody almost got stabbed up in parks, I was like, "Well, did anybody leave?" And everybody was like, "Oh, no. We wasn't losing our place in line cuz that's how serious it was. That's how serious it was. Nobody was moving out of their place in parks."

9:27 which lets you know how good of a meat store they are because they were just like, "Yeah, we know a stabbing almost took place here couple ABOUT AN HOUR AGO." BUT TELL YOU WHAT WE AIN'T GOING TO DO. We're now moving out of line because it's just that serious. And you know what else happened? The cops, they just chilling having, you know, again, they they not on high alert anymore. they just decided, you know what, it's worth it for us to like also stand in line or also be here to try to as well get some Thanksgiving type of stuff. And I was like, man, I I really appreciate this about LA in this moment. It's like, yo, stabbing me damn.

10:08 Tell you what I'm going to do cuz I can't find them nowhere else. I'm getting these turkey wings. And I got to be honest, it didn't deter me in the slightest. I was like, yo, I'm just gonna uh I'mma just be in here. we just going to we just going to handle it if it's a problem. So that was like I was so happy that that worked out. Let me tell you my current Thanksgiving stress. So there's this great baker that I know who ships out cakes, pies, all that for Thanksgiving, really for any occas

10:42 a cinnamon roll pound cake. gotta get it for Thanksgiving. I'm thinking like, gotta get it, gotta get it. Put in my order. He shipped it out. And I'm looking at the the tracking number he gave me and and following it and they're just and they say this the address was undeliverable and this has never shown up in my house. And I'm just like, "Okay, where's my dessert?" Cuz I need them for tomorrow. And then I realized something. I was like, "Man, this is so weird. Your girl put down the wrong zip code." So, let me tell you how I done spent my morning. I have spent my morning tracking down the sweet potato cheesecake like I'm Olivia Benson in Law and Order SBU and she tracking down a perp. That's how badly I need to have this dessert delivered to me today.

11:32 And it's all my fault because I put down the wrong zip code. Right address, wrong zip code. Who does that? Me. That's who does that. And so because of that, I am now dert dessertless up the creek without a paddle. I am hoping I put in an intercept package request. I am hoping I'm able to get the sweet potato cheesecake and this cinnamon roll pound cake before the day is out cuz my ass is on the line right now. As again, Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. My husband was like, "Don't worry about it. It's not a big deal." Blah blah blah.

12:05 I'm like, "It is a big deal because I love Thanksgiving. So, all I know is I have called UPS today about 51 times trying to find out where the hell is this sweet potato cheesecake and where is this cinnamon roll pound cake. I'm Olivia Benson on it. I'm I'm to I'm all in from SVU on there. I'm Stabler. I'm on the case. to go even further back is for some of y'all that might have watched First 48. I'm Carolyn Mason trying to find this sweet potato cheesecake and the cinnamon roll pound cake. So, y'all need to pray for me because I really want to find this cheesecake. All right, so now y'all heard about my Thanksgiving shenanigans and I'm sure y'all have had some on and and by the way, by the end of this conversation is some Thanksgiving stuff that I want to get into with y'all because I want to know. Let me just prepare you right now. What is your most aggressive controversial Thanksgiving take? What What is that?

13:09 Oh, see, you know what? My man A. Davis, he know what I'm talking about. Call McNote and Bunk. I'm telling you, I need some detectives out there. I mean, what what is I need to find where is this cheesecake? Cuz they done took me to three different processing plants of postal stuff and I'm like, but you know what? Let me just say this. All the postal workers that I talked to today, despite it being a holiday tomorrow, you know, they trying to get off work as quickly as possible today. They've been all nice and exceptional. Exceptional.

13:42 Um, and so yeah, I know the same day reroute is not guaranteed, but yet I got a text message that said that they got it and it's been intercepted. So, I'm hoping if they show me the facility, your girl running up there and I'll be like, "Who got the cookies and shit?" Or, in this case, the sweet potato cheesecake and the uh and the uh cinnamon roll pound cake. I ain't had pound pound cake in a minute, so I'm here. I come. All right, let's get into some sports talk. Don't know if you guys have seen this, but um the Chiefs Cowboys game is the marquee matchup I think of the day.

14:29 And in case you guys, you know, are unaware about the other NFL matchups that we have on Thanksgiving, we got Packers, Lions, we got Bengals, Ravens, and we also have Bears Eagles. So, good matchups for the most part all around. Bengals and Ravens eh Packers and Lions. That's gonna be a good win to send in Detroit. My husband's very excited as a lifelong Lions fan. But Chiefs Cowboys, everybody is anticipating, especially with the Cowboys coming off the victory that they just had, beating the Eagles, that this is going to be the most watched. This is the prediction by the the experts that Cowboys Chiefs is going to be the most watched NFL regular season game ever.

15:12 That's a big statement. Now, I understand where that is coming from but that's a big statement, but personally, I'm g just say it right now. As much as the Cowboys, I believe at some point are going to falter this season. As much and by faltered, it's like right now there's a there's a little bit of hope going on because after beating the Eagles, I mean, we've seen how the Cowboys offense has performed all season. We've also seen after Jerry made some nift Jerry as in Jerry Jones made some nifty moves, we also understand that the Cowboys defense has performed a lot better in the last few weeks. So like they're they're on the upswing and they're not eliminated from the playoffs. They can definitely make a run. You look at their schedule and their schedule ain't bad. It kind of winds up to they might be able to pull this off. I completely understand the logistical and logical reasons why people believe that the Cowboys are

16:13 opposed to to um to make a run. And then you look at the Chiefs. The Chiefs are in trouble in a lot of ways. And right now where they sit, they're currently out of the playoffs. And to me, this is what I call a trust game. Who do you trust more in this situation with so much on the line and so much at stake? And y'all in the comments, let me know. Do you trust the Chiefs more or do you trust the Cowboys more? And I have to be honest. And while as a 49er fan just generally a sports analyst period, there there does come a certain amount of kind of twisted pleasure and like ribbon Cowboys fans because they so extra and they believe so hard and even when you want to point out like what their history has looked like for the last 30 plus years. They just in it, right? And I respect that.

17:07 But it is fun for me to kind of see them tormented a little bit. There's certain fan bases that you don't mind seeing tormented a little bit. But who do you trust more, the Chiefs or the Cowboys? And I think that's a legitimate question. And because of that question, I have to say I trust the Chiefs more because me imagining them and even though I don't think the Chiefs are what they were once were, um, in the sense of like how dominant we've seen them be over basically what it stretched to be almost a decade. Uh even though we've seen that, I will have to say that like it's clear that they're a bit on a downward turn. That doesn't mean they're going to be down for long, but it just appears that right now the Chiefs, they have Patrick Mahomes, and when you have him, you always have a chance. I think Travis Kelce clearly has lost a step.

18:01 There's parts of their offense that work, parts of it that don't work. I don't think the defense as as is as dominant as we've seen them in the years that they've won the Super Bowl, at least going to the Super Bowl. So, I think like you're seeing them kind of take a a bit of a step back and that's fine. And some of it is not even them fully taking a step back. Some of it is the fact that other people who are in competition with them and in competition for the same things have just taken a step forward. Some of it is that. But as it stands between these two, I totally trust that the Chiefs in this kind of moment are going to be the ones that show up. Uh because what you said a Davis here is the biggest concern. The Cowboys always find a way to step on their own foot. Uh and as many of you agree with me that the Chiefs are more trustworthy. Even though, and I don't think, by the way, let me just say this.

18:56 I don't think they need, and this has been proven, they don't need Travis Kelce to perform at the elite level we've seen him perform in order to win. They have other weapons. they have other ways in which they can win. I just think that this is a different kind of year for them. Like, would it surprise me if the Chiefs didn't make the playoffs? Not at all. Would it surprise me if the Chiefs lost this game? Absolutely. And I think most of us feel like how you do uh Dorocris the D I am pronouncing this wrong. Duo Curroso 233. I'm gonna stop trying to pronounce y'all screen names because they be wild. Like, oh, why can't y'all have some [ __ ] like Mike, you know, Mike Evans or something like some of y'all are a little confusing. But anyway, I say all this to say I agree with you. Like you have those two dependable elements and I do think that Dak Prescott, much like Tony Romo, got gets more [ __ ] than he should. And

20:01 in many ways, the Cowboys let both of them down. I felt like they definitely let Tony Romo down because Tony Romo was a good quarterback. Tony Romo could have been an elite level type of quarterback that you talk about in that kind of way. He had that kind of skill set, but they constantly did the same thing like they did with Dak cuz like they saddled him with pretty crappy defenses. They had some opportunities and opportunities that he certainly was a part of blowing. So, I'm not going to try to absolve him from it, but I think there's a lot of teams that Tony Romo could have won a a Super Bowl with. And I feel that way with Dak Prescott. Like, I think Dak Prescott is good enough that you can win a Super Bowl with him. Like, ask me as a 49er fan when we went to the Super Bowl and played the Chiefs with Jimmy Garopppolo, would I have rather had Dak Prescott? Hell yeah, I would have rather

20:53 had Dak Prescott than Jimmy more crap than he should because there is a certain level of expectation. There's a certain level of scrutiny that comes along when you're the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. Just like if you're the quarterback of the New York Giants, in certain markets that or in certain franchises as well, it's going to mean more. So, I say all that to say is while the Cowboys I think are in a good position, especially when you think of like how bad they started in this game, you would be doing yourself a serious disservice if you counted out the Kansas City Chiefs. So, my pick is I think the Chiefs are going to win. And just really quickly to mention some of the other games, Packers, Lions, I the NFC North, uh love how it's shaping up.

21:45 Um, there's something about the Packers, you know, the quote Cedric the Entertainer Curl ain't quite something about them dudes. And um, maybe you guys have a better way of putting it um, in context than I do, but like Curl not quite right with the Packers. I don't know if this is Jordan Love question. He's still young. He still has a lot of growing. He's still coming into himself as a quarterback. He does make silly mistakes at times, but it's like curl not quite I trust the Lions more in that game because ultimately in a lot of these games it's like who do you trust more? I mean that's really how you determine a lot of matchups. Lions are at home where they play very well.

22:35 Being from Detroit, I understand exactly how insane tomorrow's atmosphere is going to be. especially with the Lions being in the position that they're in. So, I expect forfield to be on fire. Think the Lions gonna win that one. Bears, Eagles. [clears throat] I know a couple weeks ago on live here on Spolitics Live, I discussed the Eagles and how it just seemed to me no matter how much they won, no matter how much they won, every week was what's wrong with the Eagles, whether they won or lost. Like there was some weeks when the Eagles won, you didn't know like if you were an alien coming down from somewhere else and they said, "Hey, [clears throat] can you determine by how the media is talking about this team whether or not they won or lost this game?" You would have a very difficult time deciphering like did they win the game? Because everything with the Eagles has this entire narrative of their season has been

23:30 what's wrong with them? And I realize that the Eagles, particularly Saquon Barkley, has not been the player this season that he was last season. Some of it is because I think their offensive line is not as good as it was last season. So, there are very real reasons. There's that constant drama, you know, with AJ Brown and Jaylen Herz and if Jayen like the fact that we're still wondering if Jaylen Herz is a good quarterback in the NFL after what he's done is mindblowing to me. So, at any rate, um this feels like a game where I feel like the Eagles are going to try to prove something. And that's not to say that the the Bears don't have anything to prove because they certainly do given what their record is. A lot of people have been looking at them as is this a team that we can really trust that's good meaning like do we really believe that the Bears are good? And I think there's no doubt that Caleb Williams has

24:31 been incredibly um like his growth has you see it you see where he's grown. still some things that he does as a young quarterback. Then you're like, "Eh, [clears throat] not so great." But generally speaking, you see the growth under head coach Ben Johnson. But are you ready to trust the Bears? Again, there's that word trust. Do you trust the Bears over the Eagles? And keep in mind that this game is in Philadelphia. And I have to say, I trust the Eagles. And I think they're going to take a lot of this personally to quote Michael Jordan from the last dance. He I think they're going to take this personally. So anyway, there's my pics.

25:15 Oh, Bengals Ravens. I mean, should we even bother? Ravens. Look it. Love it. How they came back. What do you know? You get back your best player on the team getting back LAMAR J. LOOK WHAT HAPPENS. WHAT? They're actually really good. Okay. Uh, think the Ravens will be fine. So, what we're looking at here in this Thanksgiving day, I got the Lions, I got the Ravens, I got the Chiefs to win in Dallas, and I have the Eagles to, I think, make a statement. You know, the Eagles though, they ought to actually look at this as a blessing that they're doubted in the way that they're doubted despite the fact that they are coming off winning a Super Bowl.

26:01 It's rare that a team in their position is doubted and disrespected as much as they have. Usually the hardest thing about repeating and to get back to a Super Bowl or to win a Super Bowl is that people get a little lazy. They get a little softer and you start riding the spoils of what you last did. the Eagles don't have to worry about it because based off what has been the conversation and the narrative around them is most people are looking at them and doubting that they will even have an opportunity to get back despite what their record says. Like most people doubt the Eagles or unless you're a Philly fan, but then the whole conversation around them is what is what is wrong with this team? And I think they should use that to their advantage.

26:47 It gives them a built-in chip on their shoulder. It gives them built-in motivation and that is rare to get after you won the Super Bowl. So, they need to frankly take advantage of that and use that to fuel them through the rest of the season and beyond that. You know, a lot of times when teams and players shout that nobody believed in us, I'll be like really. I remember this is, you know, to take y'all back. So I covered college football and college basketball for about six years. And when I covered college football and basketball is when the Miami Hurricanes were the Miami Hurricanes. I'm talking about the Willis McGee, Frank Gore, Ken Dorsy didn't lose a game in about two years Miami Hurricanes. Those Miami Hurricanes, I had an opportunity to cover several of their games and I would crack up because y'all know how dominant that team was.

27:37 And oh, by the way, as a little side note, I was there that I was covering that game when Ohio State beat them in the national championship in the Fiesta Bowl. It's one of the greatest college football games. I think that might be the greatest college football game that I saw in person. At any rate, the Miami Hurricanes were as dominant as they were during that time. And those that don't know would always play the nobody believed in us card. I'm like, who is nobody? you are, you guys are literally out here like the constant conversation was whether or not that Hurricanes team could beat the NFL team.

28:14 That was constant. And yet they on here with this nobody believed in us. So I think teams often invent reasons to be pissed off to keep the edge. If you're the Eagles, you ain't even got to do all that. You have so much material from this season of everybody thinking, "Y'all lost the step. Y'all not as good. Your quarterback ain't as good. your offense ain't as good. Like, you have a lot of reasons to go out there every week and play what I call shut the [ __ ] up football because that's what you're trying to get people to do. So, at any rate, I think this bows the the the Eagles well. And so, if I were them, I'd be using that as a major motivation.

28:58 All right. Uh, one other football topic I want to get to today. Look, I know a lot of you guys have seen my comments on Shador Sanders and many of you have haven't disagreed. And I think one of the disconnects with it and realize I haven't said anything bad about Shador Sanders is just I'm not buying in in the same way, not in terms of his actual ability, but with certain things about the narrative around Shador Sanders. No, I do not believe that an entire NFL conspired against Shador Sanders to humble him. I believe in a lot of NFL conspiracy theories, ones that have been proven over time, but that one been a little bit harder for me to believe and I've been very clear about how I feel. I think he is a talented quarterback who has an opportunity that I expect that he will fully take advantage of.

29:58 They play the 49ers this week. Obviously, that's an upgrade in competition from when he just won his first game as an NFL starter against the Raiders. But even if they don't win, it's still an opportunity for Shador because if you're Cleveland, it doesn't make any sense for you not to start him the rest of the season. I think you kind of know what you have in Dylan Gabriel. You don't know what you have in Shadore. And so before next season comes along, then you need to figure out what you have at this position. And it has also been obvious to me that Kevin Stfansky would rather be right than do in some respect what's good for his football team. I always said this about players.

30:42 There's a like the NBA for example, which I have extensive experience covering. In the NBA, there are guys who want to win and guys who only can win their way. And there's a very big difference between those two types of players and their mentality. the guys that only want to win their way. Like they still want to win. They still believe in delivering championships. They still believe in all those things that sports fans want them to believe in. But when they only believe they can win their way, that means, oh no, we can win. But we can only win if I'm taking 30 shots. If I'm not taking 30 shots, then I don't think that's an effective way that we can win.

31:19 And the guys that only want to win their way, sometimes there is a difference between talent and results. Cuz sometimes the way you want to win ain't the way that y'all need to win. Give you an example. When the Miami Heat, when the Heles came together with Chris Bosch and LeBron James and D Wayade, I always thought they were going to work because they all wanted to play together. They wanted it to work, right? And so Dwayne realized what he needed to do even though he was still very much in his prime, even though he had already delivered a championship as the main as the main piece as the man even though he'd already done that. He took a step back when LeBron got there because he realized their best chances of winning was if the team was built and centered around LeBron. It takes a very emotionally intelligent player to realize that. It takes a very mature player to realize that that even though

32:23 they still have the ability on any given night to take this team to where they need to be, they realize that's not what's actually best for how the team can flow. And so I think Dway deserves a lot of credit for doing that. And because he did that, that to me is why that Avengers configuration was successful because D. Wayade understood what it took to win and it didn't have to be his way. Now, if he was the type of player that said, "Oh, we going to win, but it's got to be my way." Then I think that would be totally different.

33:02 So I say all that to say is that Kevin Stfansky with some of how he's treated Shador Sanders is like he wants to win but he wants to win his way and his way is being right about Dylan Gabriel and there is nothing that we have seen that has justified Dylan Gabriel being their third round pick. I'm not saying that Shador should have went fifth. I'm not saying any commentary about what that what that is. But there is nothing I have seen from Dylan Gabriel that would lead me to believe, yeah, that guy can be a franchise guy one day. Maybe I'll be wrong. Who knows? So, because of that, as a franchise, the best thing for the franchise is to see what Shadur has and put him out there and make him the featured quarterback, make him the starter for the rest of the season.

33:54 And that's kind of the way football works sometimes. Even though Dylan Gabriel is a rookie, has the right to develop, football ain't always fair. And there's so many examples to point to that. Some of this is about situation. Some of it is about timing. And situation and situation timing and momentum are all with Shadore and I recognize that. Now that being said, as we have seen the conversation about Shadura progress, what has been obvious is I made mention of this the other day is the conversation around Shadur is exhausting because it's too extreme on both sides. You have people who are I think attacking Shadura's character unnecessarily about things that have nothing to do with football.

34:45 with a presumptuousness about his body language and how he acts and what he says. Like they just doing the most, the absolute most. And it's annoying. On the other side of that, and I picked this up on threads because there was somebody on threads that called some of the Shadur Sanders fan, this is not every fan, but called some of them Shadura Sanders truthers. And I was like, "Oh my god, that is the perfect example." There's nothing wrong with rooting for Shador Sanders. And I have been in conversation with a lot of people about why is it this guy, and I'm going to speak from a community standpoint. It's like, why is it this particular player that has become the nephew of the black community? How is this happened? And I'm not suggesting asking that question to say it shouldn't have happened. I'm just trying to understand it because the levels of extremism in the opinion is mindboggling to me. I'm like, I kind of

35:51 don't understand like why this is a thing. Um or a thing to this extreme. I understand rooting for him. I understand wanting him to do well. Totally get those. But why is it so extreme? So, case in point, if y'all think I'm the one who is, you know, making this up or whatever, this is what I mean by too extreme. And this is what I mean by that definition of Shadur Sanders truther. Here is Kendrick Perkins, NBA analyst on ESPN talking about Shadur Sanders recently. The Dura Sanders is the most powerful black man since 2009.

36:37 You know what happened in 2009? Right. That's when President Obama got elected in office. He's the most powerful black man since 2009. You said you were sitting there watching the game in your house and what you did? You ran. You ran with the TV.

36:53 Goddamn right. I did. What was you doing DB? Oh, cheering. I was happy. You was chilling like a [ __ ] When Shadura Sanders is on the field, and when I say powerful, powerful because it's two sides of it, right? Think about it. Okay? You got the black community. He bringing the whole black community together. I ain't I ain't ran across one black person that that said one bad thing about shouldn't do it.

37:17 We want him. And guess what? Not one. Because he has the balance. He has the balance of that.

37:23 I'm arrogant, but I'm humble, too. Yeah, he got fun with this [ __ ] And he having fun with this [ __ ] And on top of that, y'all want me to say it ain't Y'all want me to fail it ain't going to happen.

37:33 Yeah, he talking [ __ ] He's the most powerful black man in sports. No other no other. He matter [clears throat] of fact, [ __ ] black man. He the most powerful player in sports. Shadur Sanders is the most powerful black man in sports and the most powerful black man since 2009. Guys, what are we doing? Like y'all got to help me understand this. And and see this is what is difficult about having this conversation. And I I I think uh I was on Yeah, I was on lear today is I have to really watch what I say about Shador Sanders. And the reason why I do because I realize that so many of our people love him to an extent, protect him to an extent that it's irrational.

38:41 And so I can't have a rational conversation with people who are being irrational. And so because of that, because I can't have that conversation, I said, "You know what y'all? Y'all got it." Because every time I try to, and I'm not even bringing what I think to be harsh critique. I'm just not at the point where I would say that Shadur Sanders is the most powerful black man since 2009. And I'm just saying he's not. So when I say that he's not, the truthers come out and say I'm denigrating a black man. So I I don't even know what to do with that. It's like if you if you don't get so irrational about Shadira Sanders, your whole blackness is called into question. just standing in the community is called into question. So, I'm trying to really wrap my mind around it. And y'all gonna have to help me in the comments. Why do we feel this way? Why do we feel this strongly to the point where you have an analyst and Kendrick,

39:42 I respect Kendrick. I like Kendrick. I like him on air. He does his thing. Why do you have someone in his position saying that Shadur Sanders is the most powerful black man since 2009? DID LEBRON DIE? AND BY THE WAY, WE confuse popularity for power. Popularity and power and influence are not the same thing. And maybe he meant influence and power or excuse me, maybe he meant influence and popularity. Maybe that's what he meant. And so, yeah, I get it. He is very popular. He was s He was one of the most power or more one of the most popular athletes when he played college football. I get it.

40:32 Oh, wait. Hold up. Let me let me Oh, let me let me take a time out right here. This is from time 18 1818. Jamal Hill, you put Angel Reese and Muhammad Ali in the same breath. Here you are saying something about a young black man. Wow. Time. Let me educate you real fast because this has come up many times. I never said that. I need you to get media educated. Does that sound like something reasonable or rationable rational that I would say? I never said that. And I hate to tell y'all what happens. And this is this speaks to and I'm glad you brought up Angel Reese because Angel Reese is actually a very similar comparison to Shadura Sanders in some ways. And I'm gonna tell you why in a minute. But here's the thing. time 18188.

41:15 It was a madeup quote and I don't know if you know this happens or not but there are bot farm generating content creators and what they do is they put somebody like Angel Reese on a postcard because notice notice how you could never find any video of me saying that. You never saw it in a story. You never saw it in any mainstream media publication whatsoever that Jamal Hill called Angel Reese Muhammad Ali. You never saw that anywhere. you saw it on Facebook or you saw it on one of these little tired little blogs and they never gave you any origin source.

41:49 So, no, I am not crazy. I never compared Angel Reeves to Muhammad Ali. Another one that circulated that I supposedly said was me saying that she was the next Michael Jordan. I never said that either. So, y'all can time out with the dumb [ __ ] Get more media literate. Next time you see a quote that appears too provocative, it's probably not true. So ask yourself some questions. Anyway, I say all that to say the entire conversation around Shador Sanders is just out of control. It's just out of control on it's just out of control on both sides.

42:34 To say that Shadur Sanders is more powerful than Barack Obama was or as powerful making it similar is completely crazy. Shad Shadur Sanders entertains us. We are excited about his talent, excited about the possibility. He doesn't change anybody's life in one direction or another. Now, maybe if you want to say like, okay, he could be representative of what you can accomplish. Well, even that would be a stretch because he is somebody who is gifted at football, which 99% of people are not. He is somebody who came from wealth. He came from a background that most people do not come from.

43:22 So once again, you know, now if you want to take the simple, nobody believed in me and I made it and I achieved it. It's a lot of athletes that show that and that is not to dismiss what he does. But I I am trying to understand what is it about Shadur Sanders that has made our community react the way that they have react in a way that is irrational in a lot of ways. I just I just want to know. All right. I mean King uh King RC 36, you said he does a he doesn't he does a lot for the people. What does he do for the people? And I don't and I'm not asking this to say that he doesn't do anything for the people. I want y'all to tell me what is it about Shadura Sanders that made him the one that we said not on our watch?

44:20 Ju I I am just curious from the community response. What is what is the thing that made us say that um because and I'm I'm glad you brought this up. Okay. So Pat Mahomes to me um has a lot of power in the in the league. And the reason that Pat Mahomes has a lot of power because I I promise you if something happened to Pat Mahomes, like you know how Tom Brady when he got hurt, suddenly you there was a decided change where you couldn't hit the quarterback below the knee anymore. That was the Tom Brady rule. That's power. One quarterback gets hurt and they decide to change the whole rule book because of him. That is power.

45:12 All right. So yeah, I get it. And and listen, I understand and I I don't want to act like I'm like completely culturally aware. I'm very aware. I understand that in this country, confident black men get put under a different level of scrutiny, persecution, and criticism as opposed to confident white men. Like I made this comparison the last time I discussed Shador Sanders is that there is a way in which confidence with white athletes is portrayed and discussed and welcomed that will never happen with black athletes. Wouldn't happen. Jackson Dart is a case point example. Do you know that if I mean got some jewelry, don't get me wrong, but I don't know.

46:01 Let's just say Cam Ward, right? Cam Ward number one paid quarterback with the Titans. If Cam Ward wore that big rope or what Cuban link that Jackson Dark wore, we'd be having a whole another conversation. A whole another conversation. And I don't say that because I don't think I look Jackson D. Wear all the Cuban links you want. I DON'T CARE. WEAR THEM ALL. Talk all the [ __ ] Do all the Tik Tok dances. Do it all. But if he were if Jackson Dart was black and in New York, come on now. It'd be entire stories and think pieces about his behavior.

46:56 So yeah, that that is why and then I think also the part of Shadur's story that also resonates is that there's a lot of black people who look at Shadur and especially for people who feel like he was wrongly not necessarily wrongly evaluated but picked in the wrong spot. Black people have this constant experience where we know we're good, but we wind up getting shorted. We wind up not getting the access point that everybody else gets. And so, a lot of us can relate to that. And because we can relate to that, Shadur Sanders doesn't just feel like another quarterback out there. It feels personal.

47:47 I compare well when Michael Vic was at the height of his stardom. Black people love the hell out of Michael Vic. Everybody love Michael Vic. So I don't want to make but there's a certain cultural community conversation that takes place in our community that's frankly different than other places, right? And so Michael Vic was definitely he was the people's quarterback. But I gotta be honest, even with Michael Vic, and y'all can tell me if I'm wrong, y'all can tell me if I'm wrong, is even with Michael Vic, this layer of protectionism that Shadur has wasn't quite the same. And Michael Vic showed us all the things as a quarterback.

48:37 physical marvel, unbelievable speed, played the game in a way no one had ever seen before. Just I didn't I think the way that that Shador Sanders is loved on is still different. It's still different. Brought up another name. There's Nat Graham 6250. Cam, too. We love Cam Newton. That's true. But even with Cam, as much as people love Cam and did do love Cam still, it wasn't this. It was still different. And I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it. So, as I'm trying to get to the bottom of it, I make sure to reach out to people whose opinions I trust to say like, "All right, I'mma play ask a black man." Because maybe there's some things as a black woman I'm not getting as to why Shadur has become the one that we said not today.

49:38 So, I asked a good friend of mine about this and he had a very interesting theory and you guys can tell me if you think this theory is right, if you think it's on base, off base, whatever. So, and I'm going to read to you exactly. I got my phone here. So, I'm going to read the the text messages. We had a text exchange and I if the person tells you who that we talked, that's fine, but I don't want to out them. it is somebody you guys know, but I just wanted to understand. So, I texted him. I said, "I'm trying to think of a a good cultural reference to explain the relationship black people have with Shadore or maybe the relationship that is specific to black men." And he said JFK Jr.

50:25 JFK Jr. H [clears throat] interesting. Okay. I never saw that one coming. All right. JFK Jr. and I said, "How so?" This is what he texted me back. Legendary father who captured the imagination of a generation. This is why he's comparing Shadur Sanders to JFK Jr. like JFK is the model for the boomer generation. Dion is kind of that for my generation of black men being that Dion is JFK. The son comes along, can't match his father, but can approximate, but we want it for him so badly. He looks like his dad, reminds you of his dad, at times can feel like his dad, but there's only one pops, but both feel like cultural siblings rather than actual people.

51:20 You all tell me if that is right or wrong. Shador Sanders, JFK, Junior. Important to put that junior on there. Um, in case I because I know you guys are are are going to laugh, but yes, that was my husband that just walked behind me. But JFK Jr. is an interesting comparison. And I never thought of it that way. And I was like, that could explain why there is this reverence for him is that it's the spillover from Dion, but also because the son reminds us so much of the father that it's like they just we just got them both. And it is what it is. So that's that's not a bad analogy at all.

52:01 And I see some of you in the comments are rocking with it. None of the boomers were worshiping JFK's dad. Well, they kind of did, but yeah, I I couldn't get it. So here, uh, Malikica, I think that's your name. Malikica 9266. I can only speak for me as a black woman, as we as black people are not a monolith, but I know it's certainly triggering for me as a woman working in corporate America, seeing what made me want to I assume there was more there, but it got cut off. Sorry. Um, so the comparison that I have from a sports standpoint is Angel Reese. And I'm sure that many of you have noticed that there is a layer of protection around Angel Reese. I do not think it's it's the same as Shador Sanders because there are plenty of people who do not like Angel Ree. Um especially a lot of men, I have to be honest, who, you know, tear her down as a basketball player, constantly saying like she wants

53:01 to be an influencer more so than she wants to be a player, not working on her game, blah blah blah blah blah. However, with black women, Angel Reese is is our one. We like we going down. We going down swinging on this one. And I think it is because there is that relatability of having a black athlete who a woman who you see trying to sort of step into her unapologeticness and doing that and being denigrated for it and being castigated for it. and especially some of the conversation around Angel Reese and what people have called her and there's a lot of black women who can relate to their authentic their authenticity being weaponized against them. And so that is why you see a particular response among black women as opposed to what you might see in other corners. So Angel Reese is the black woman Shadura Sanders.

54:03 So, I get it. Um, and see what I'm saying? I don't see Kayla Clark dressing half nude. Not that anyone wants to see her half nude. Okay, congratulations to you, Benny from Queens. Want a cookie? But that's when we hear those criticisms like, "Why she out there looking like that? How dare she look this way or that way?" When we see the policing of her body, her behavior, and her attitude, it immediately sends a bat signal to black women. And we like not today, not today, not not no way, no how. That is what it is. So I understand how sometimes athletes can dig and mean something deeper culturally, but it is often surprising to me about who gets picked to wear this mantle and like how and why do we pick them? I think it's more circumstance than anything. And not that I I made this point before about OJ Simpson. And clearly I'm not just so the slow people. I am not putting Shador Sanders in the category of OJ Simpson.

55:08 But OJ Simpson was a symbol for a lot of black people when he was on trial for the murder of his ex-wife and her friend for Nico Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman. We knew as a community that OJ wasn't [ __ ] We knew this. We knew he didn't rock with us. We knew he wasn't really trying to be around us and be tight with us like that. But a lot of black people use OJ as a symbol because what was of greater importance was understanding how the criminal justice system works against us. That was the point. That was the point. It's like the point wasn't it didn't have anything to do with OJ. It had everything to do with the fact that for a lot of black people, it was the opportunity to finally get one up on a justice system that has humiliated us, disrespected us, wrongly imprisoned many of us, unfairly sentenced many of us. That was the problem.

56:03 And so, yeah, they OJ Simpson was used to bring a light to all those problems. And I got it. You know, much like I get why Angel Reese, a lot of women, black women latch on to her. But in both cases with Shadur and Angel is we got to leave room to be able to talk about them in a reasonable way so that any level of accountability or critique is not seen as a complete, you know, as being complete traitors to the race. Like I defended some of Candace Parker's comments about Angel Reese. I'm like she she would know she she played in the league was one of the best players of all time.

56:54 And some of the criticisms she brought up about about her game, which I [clears throat] thought were fair. I mean, they treated Candace like she had given a critique of Angel Reese with a white hood on. And that's that's ridiculous. [gasps]

57:13 It's like we talking basketball people. Like it's okay to critique people about basketball right? So there's, you know, and and listen, I know that listen, it's not like we don't see white people do the same thing. So white people, if you think you exonerated from this level of irrational protectionism of people, you are sorely wrong. Cuz there's some people I could definitely call y'all out about. It's just the nature of people. So, it's not even a black or white thing. It's just truly the nature of people. And certainly, y'all have elevated some people symbolically because in your mind, it means something much more than what they're accused of waving at Kyle Writtenhouse right now. Cuz that would be one that you all elevate and go to the map for. And I'm like, uh, okay.

58:13 Out of this sense of we got to be Batman around here. A whole bunch of y'all was climbing that wall on January 6th a couple years ago, and a lot of y'all got them Donald Trump uh hats and bed sheets and and onesies and Yeah man. So don't even don't even make it seem like this is something that is purely relative to our community because white folks got some protectionism too. I mean I think this is just culturally the dynamic in this country. All right, those are my sort of final thoughts on Shador. Got a couple more things to get to before I get guys get you out of here. um something I want to bring you guys' attention to and a a good friend of mine, Latasha Brown, she is the co-founder of a great organization called Black Voters Matter.

59:13 You notice how Georgia turned blue. Stacy Abrams certainly has something to do with that, but so did Black Voters Matter. They had a lot to do with it. They were doing the work on the ground, getting people engaged. It's a big reason why you have Reverend Raphael Waro um as a senator and just the change, the blue change that you've seen in Georgia. So, one of the initiatives that Latasha is behind and there's other people behind this too is called we ain't buying it.com. That is the the phrase I should say the the slogan is we ain't buying it. And the whole point is this.

59:52 from November 27th to December 1st, they are encouraging all of us like instead of participating in Black Friday, Cyber Monday where we're going to all the big box stores, Target, Home Depot, ordering from Amazon, usual suspects, we should collectively make a statement and be like, "We ain't buying it. We're not buying it from these big box stores." And the reason, and I think this is a good one, like we saw that these Target boycott was successful. It still is. Target is reeling. And one of the biggest reasons and the impetus behind not supporting Target was because Target was very loud, proud, confident, and wrong about rolling back the DEI initiatives. And and listen, I get it that people are they're like, "Oh, um, well, why Target?" Well, that's why I want y'all to pay attention to we ain't buying it.com because we ain't buying it.com.

1:00:57 Let me throw this up again. It's about more than Target. It's about multiple big box stores who did the same thing that Target did in terms of rolling back their DEI initiatives. And while we know statistically who DEI helps or who it doesn't help, I should say, we also know something also very important that this isn't about this is about a mentality that the business has. And so that's why we are being vocal about DEI. It's because it is signaling a mentality to where they think because right or wrong, black people have been made to be the face of DEI.

1:01:35 Even though we're not the one it helps the most, they certainly not going to make white women the face of it because white women are the one that are helped most by DI. They want to make us the face of it because it's easy to get people to rally around being against it if they think we're the ones that benefit benefit from it. It works this way in every government program. So I say all that to say is this is about a mentality to where they think that they can disrespect customers that look like us in their policy mentality and how they do things, but they can still collect our money. So for the cheap seats, we ain't buying it. That's the whole vibe from November 27th to December 1st.

1:02:23 And if you go to this website, we ain't buying it.com, it's not about just not buying from Target. More importantly, it's about supporting black and local businesses. Here's Latasha. Is the best time of the year. Listen, it is Christmas season and hopefully by now you've heard of the We Ain't Buying It campaign. What we want you to do is this season to stay away from big box stores, but to spend your money and your time into local businesses, to small business, minorityowned and blackowned businesses. And this is an opportunity for us to redirect our money where it really matters. Go shop local. Make sure that you're supporting a womanowned, blackowned, and minority owned business.

1:03:06 Yes. Cuz we ain't buying it. We ain't buying it. Uh when it just says since white women were the main medic uh and half of them voted to protect white supremacy let them end the we need to ask for help for us. Well here's the thing is the reason why other people Hassan Minaj the comedian and cultural commentator said something to me one time that I thought was super interesting and also very true. He said this about just the general civil rights movement. He said no black people were on the front lines. we just got sent the email. What he was basically trying to say is like we all jumped on because of the fight that black people waged to progressively move civil rights forward. And if you look at the civil rights legislation, it's not just written for us. It's written for everybody. And just so you know, generally speaking, that's how those laws work. Is that no, there's not going to be specific design

1:04:07 legislation for us. is going to include other people who are part of the protected class of minorities and marginalized groups. And I understand why we have a problem with that. But realize that if it doesn't include sort of certain groups, it will never stand. It will get legally challenged as we have seen this happen a million times before. And before people start bringing up because this is inevitably what happen when I have this conversation is like it can be with us in mind but it can't be just for us because it will get shot down in most of the courts in the country.

1:04:53 But the reason why what I often hear as a response is like people point to the Asian hate crime bill. Number one, it wasn't an Asian hate crime bill. Just so you know, it was called that. And just because you hear the media call it that and that becomes a nickname, that don't mean that's what's in the legislation. I need y'all to go and read the legislation. Which, by the way, in this country, let's do a pop quiz people. Do you think you get more federal time if you conduct a hate crime against an Asian person than a black person?

1:05:28 The answer is no, you don't. It's all under the same hate crime bill. All right. The COVID bill that was passed that specified about the number of crimes and of course the really racist and bigoted dialogue that a lot of Asians were facing because of CO. It was just a bill to study the impact of COVID and how the Asian community became a target of discrimination and bigotry bigotry. It was just a study. They added research positions. That was it. It was purely symbolic. So before you get all worked up and thinking the Asians got something we didn't, they didn't. They are protected under I believe it's called the James Bird Hate Crime Act. James Bird was a black man, by the way.

1:06:30 I think it's the James Bird and Matthew Shepard. Hate Crime Act. I think that's what it is. Um, it was a hate crime bill passed in the name of James Bird, black man who was executed in Texas, and Matthew Shepard, who was a gay man who was also murdered because of who he was. So, everybody in the same once again, pop quiz everybody. Do you get more time if you commit a hate crime against a gay person versus a black person versus Asian person? The answer is you don't. They all get the same. It's all a hate crime. Nothing's different.

1:07:11 So, with that being said, I think the reason among the many reasons we should support we ain't buying it.com is because a lot of these companies have been playing in people's faces. And in addition to the DEI stuff, let's just talk about the affordability part of it, okay? that there's an affordability crisis happening in America right now. And when you look at not just inflation, but how people how a lot of these companies and businesses are using inflation to try to escalate and inflate the price of their products. It is crazy behavior. Like I think they were it was a study that was done on McDonald's and I feel like in the last 10 years their prices have total gone up 350%.

1:08:05 Now even when you account for inflation 350% now y'all just being [ __ ] and so McDonald's has had to rectify with the fact that they have priced a lot of people out and people are choosing much like everybody mama's used mama used to say I got McDonald's at home. People are literally choosing that. They're like, I we got McDonald's at home. And so beyond just wanting to support local and black businesses is there is this idea that the consumer no longer matters in this country. And so that was that was a big one. Oh, and uh BJG, I'm glad you said this. The Montgomery boycott, one of the most successful boycots in American history.

1:08:52 You could argue it was the most successful. I think it lasted two years in fact. And you know, a lot of people were very dismissive of the Target back uh boycott, saying, "Well, why you do Target? Why not Walmart? Why not this? Why not that?" It's always the why not folks who generally ain't doing [ __ ] right? is I think that it's okay for us to be in practice of resisting. Target was was about practice. To me, that was the big part about it is that we all got one message, got on message, stopped going to Target.

1:09:32 There was a message sent there. Essence, which is Target is their primary sponsor for the Essence Festival. essence probably face more backlash for their conviction than I've ever seen them face because of their relationship with target and because of some other things. The whole point why you need to practice resistance is that you need to be reminded that it works even if the target even if there's a bigger target or other targets that you can make. But we need to be reminded that it can work. You know, the Montgomery bus boycott, it lasted two years, and you had black people carpooling, walking, inconveniencing themselves to the highest degree because they knew that that was the moment where they had to prove that the resistance worked.

1:10:21 See, most of us in this country, and I myself am guilty of this thing, so I'm not setting myself apart from anybody else. Most of us want to be comfortable. We don't actually want the system broken. We want to make enough money so that we're not inconvenienced by the system that oppresses us, which is very different. That means you don't want to actually break the system. You're just like, it can stay in place. Let me figure out how I can work around it. So, at what point does the workaround not work? Cuz we keep trying to work around these capitalistic and oppressive systems in this country and it doesn't work.

1:11:04 We can't work around anymore. Like, we've done the workaround thing and the workaround doesn't work. What does work is when you prove your point at the register. That works. So, I encourage everybody, please support we ain't buying it.com. November 27th to December 1st. We talking about four days. Four days. I think we can all shop local. Listen, on my dessert shenanigans, you know where I I was? Well, one, I did buy it from a black baker. Not local, but a black baker who's in business for himself. Great. I've ordered from him before. He's wonderful. Ships the stuff to me. But my second stop wasn't to go to some big box store to try to figure it out. My second stop was to go to Harriet's Cheesecake, which is if you're in LA, you know Harriet is famous. It says Centella is on Englewood.

1:12:00 Older black woman owns the spot. She makes all kinds of cheesecakes. That line was wrapped. Okay. Wrapped in line for over an hour. All good. minor inconvenience. Very, very minor. So, I would say like as we're thinking about our Black Friday and Cyber Monday plans that go out of your way because I know some of you in the chat have been like, "Well, where do I find Amen?" y'all can research cont uh concert tickets, hotels, places to travel, things to do. Get to Googling. Like, everything doesn't have to f fall in your lap. like use Google, talk to other people, and find out where you can go to support your local businesses. A lot of them you probably see in your neighborhood and don't even realize it.

1:12:49 And so, yeah, like do do a little bit of research. Do a couple clicks. What's a couple clicks, people? Take some take some initiative and not ask for everything to be handed to you all the time in terms of like, oh, we boycotting. Well, where do I show up and what time and tell me how to navigate? No. Some of this is a thinking exercise where we have to do it. And I I hear you. Look, I hear you. Some local businesses are awful. They are. We'll skip those. Go to the ones that are good. Trust me, there are plenty of local businesses that are good. I remember um not too long ago, there's a Black Forest that I found that was close to my house. Service was excellent. Also on Centanella. Amazing. All right. So, yeah, people, we can we can do the extra leg work. All right. Now, finally, while we're talking about commercialism, I don't know if you guys have seen this trend. You know, I try to keep up on

1:13:45 what the Young Folks is doing. I don't always do a good job at it. I'm never more embarrassed than when the BET Awards or some award show come around in general. Um, and they start flashing names and people and songs. I'm like, I've never heard of this person. So, I'm like okay. But this is a a young people's trend that I paid stark attention to because it reminded me of another time in our life. Um, have you guys heard of this quarter zip trend? If you're not familiar with the quarter zip trend, let me get you familiar.

1:14:22 We don't do Nike tech. We don't do coffee. It's straight quarter zips and matches around here. He was talking about putting on a Nike Tech to come outside. I told him, "What are you doing? You upgraded in life. You wear glasses now. You wear quartz." I don't do Nike Tech. We don't do those. Talk to him.

1:14:42 Yo, talk to us. Yesterday I was in the hood. Uh-huh. Today I'm wearing this sweater. I'm in Blink Street, gang. Change your life, gang. Put the tank downhips up. You heard? Cody zips. Stop. Come on. Talk to us. Amen, bro. We out. the quarter zip trend. So that's the that's the new thing that the young black folks are on is quarter zip as in the Yeah, quarter zip. I mean it's a pullover that just just a quarter zip, right? So I I personally I thought it was cute. I appreciated the fact that you got these uh you know young brothers out here.

1:15:24 They out here in their quarter zips. They're trying to do something, you know, trying to create a new style. And what it reminded me of is, and my ohead is in the chat, y'all let me know if y'all remember this. So, I remember it' be early 90s, and I feel like it went up to into late 90s, right? There was a good strong trend of black men wearing polos khakis wearing like where I'm from in Detroit, they was wearing rock ports. Um, not just like the regular Tims, but they were wearing more like the like the and not the light brown t, not the the normal ones, but they were wearing like a different kind of like ts that look look like something you wear to the office right?

1:16:10 And so I remember the whole Jay-Z with the buttoned ups like all like we went through that trend where basically dressing like business casual with a slight bit of edge was like the thing you know again polos Ralph Lauren khakis um and if you think about the rappers of those moments like if you were I mean there was a variety of rap that was out so if you wanted to be in the gangster rap you want to be in like Q easy e like you could do that but Then you also had Tribe Called called Quest. Look at how Tribe Called Quest dressed. Like everybody was trying to be on that or or like Leaders of the New School like that whole as my husband likes to call it like that backpack rap was like big or even like okay we'll a little look at Kanye the college dropout gear like that was huge. And so we've seen these moments and periods where you see young black men getting into a different kind of dress, right? And so I think the

1:17:16 quarter the quarter zip trend is cute. And one thing that has bothered me and again when I come to y'all like I'm never coming from a place on high. You know, I'm coming to you hopefully real and transparent so that you understand like I'm not in any way placing myself above where you are. But I'm going tell you the trend I hate it is the Yiann trend. I can't tell you the level of disdain I have for people referring themselves as YN, for people referring to other black men as YN. Like to me that's different. Like we we a community. Like I'm not going to sit up here and act like I don't never use the word [ __ ] I do. Right. I do. So, I'm not telling you that I don't. But the Yan thing was different because to me that was using it in a way that I thought was destructive and worse I thought we were doing that thing where we were that we don't want to be done to us where you're labeling an entire group

1:18:18 of black men based off what you consider to be pathological behaviors. And when I say that, and this is my general problem with how black people are often discussed, is like they make everything that we do, all the decisions that we make or the mistakes that we make seem pathological. It's not that as much as we've had conversations about black-on-black crime. Um then you know the conversation around black-on-black crime is always making it seem like black people are pathologically attracted to being criminals. That's the the whole shell game around black-on-black can prove that this is something that is pathologically our problem. then it justifies how we're treated with disrespect.

1:19:11 And these this general narrative of what is wrong with you black people is persistent in how we talk about black people, right? So it's like, you know, we're told that we're more criminal than everybody else. We're more we're broker than everybody else. Like everything is pathological. everything is like, "No, innately this is just who you guys are and it's it's exhausting." And so that's why I didn't like the the whole Y-N conversation or the Hawaiian label is because pathologically we were saying that this is who young black men are. And it wasn't being said in a communal way. It was being said in a way to separate a certain what we deem to be a certain type of black man from everybody else or a certain type of young black man from everybody else. Like, oh, they behaving like a YN. Like, what does that mean? I mean, I know what it means, but it was again saying that this particular group

1:20:15 of people, they just pathological. They can't be helped. They don't deserve dignity. They don't deserve respect. And so, yeah, I see I see the question. What's the issue with the word YN? We casually call. Yes, we do. But it's a blanket term. And the way we use it is important. Context matters. See, the Y-N thing was not about, oh, we just casually referred to them as that. The YN thing was asso associating a particular level of behavior with a particular group of young black men. And I don't like the behavioral stuff. I'm not I'm not with it. I am not with it.

1:20:51 I I'm not with things that make it more pathological. So with that being said, this is supposed to be the quarter zip trend is supposed to be a flip on that. But yet there's a lot of people who feel like this is just respectability politics regenerated that you have young black men who feel like, oh, if I wear this quarter zip and I get this matcha, which I've never had matcha. Have y'all had it? Like I don't I don't get it. And so, um, there is this idea that these young black men who are starting the quarter zip trend are buying into respectability politics. I don't think it's that serious. I think they think the quarter zips look cool. I love a good quarter zip on a man. Like, I think it it looks great.

1:21:39 Um, and I guess the old woman and me personally, I'm just like I I'm I'm just happy that y'all are into something that is generally positive. Now, we we going to work on some of y'all combing y'all hair. That's the next step. We don't want to give you too much at once. That's the next step. Um, but I like it because it's something that they can get into and they feel like if they have the feeling that doing this gives them a more positive feeling about themselves, I'm all for it. Match tastes like dirt. Why am I not surprised? It just doesn't look like something that would be good.

1:22:18 How Oh, okay. I guess I don't know what he's talking about there. Oh, this is the one I meant to flash up. Okay. how soon to the white the white boys been on quarter zips like that ain't new for them. The thing is they did on quarter zips and most people thought there was a lameness associated to it. And much like anything else, black people started doing stuff and suddenly it ain't lame. We know how to make anything cool. But if you're a black man out there and you're into this quarter zip trend or you see young folks into it, there is something that I want the young people to be reminded of. And this is from Louisiana politician Gary Chambers Jr.

1:22:59 who I love. So black men, as you get into the quarter zip trend, please remember this.

1:23:04 It's from a 40-year-old OG. I see y'all jumping into the quarter zip game. No problem. But let's talk about where you going and get that beverage, though. You got to go to a blackowned restaurant or a blackowned coffee shop and order you a beverage to go along with this quartz. There's no value in you giving all your money to somebody else when you do a trend. Can't let the trends keep continuing and the white man get paid off of all of that by black in the process. You can't just elevate your look. You got to elevate your mind and where you spend your money. Go to a blackowned business and leave that matcha alone. Get you some black coffee.

1:23:38 No sugar, no cream. That's the kind of girl. That's the girl of my dreams. And if you really want to top it off, pull up at a community meeting and show up in your community and show them that you got a mind to go along with your elevated look.

1:23:51 All right, Gary Chambers Jr. I'm with you when you write the black coffee thing. Like, no. I mean, I I get it. It's healthier. You a serial killer out there. Just black coffee. Just just raw. Just Just tasting that as it is, huh? Like, no, we ain't doing that. caramel macchiato over here and I ain't ashamed. So anyway, just keep that in mind as you're doing that. Uh as you're getting into the matcha, make sure that matcha is coming from black owned business. That'd be great. And hey, listen, you know, you black clothing designers or whatever that are out here, get get your quarter zip game up cuz if they buying them like that, that feels like a real opportunity for us to be involved. All right, finally y'all, it's the night before Thanksgiving. Somebody told me this like remember when I'm old enough to when Thanksgiving was like the drunkest night of the year? Like it was one of the biggest bar nights of the

1:24:46 year on Thanksgiving Eve. And I'm told that that is definitely not the case anymore. And granted, I'm going to be in the house cuz I'm I'm about to start cooking uh cuz I got dressing to do, greens to do or whatever. But my goodness, it's like what what happened? like people not going out and partying on Thanksgiving Eve anymore. At least those of us who are not cooking. I mean, not that you can't party in your own house and do that, but um but yeah, hopefully you guys are going to have a wonderful Thanksgiving. Kira says to to what relatives you think gonna be showing out on Thanksgiving. I think at my house is going to be pretty sane and I hope you you guys' is too. But um but yeah, I'm I'm disappointed in America, man. This supposed to be a big barn height tonight and and what are y'all doing?

1:25:40 Anyway, I hope you guys have a healthy, safe, wonderful, a very full new year. Break out them elastic pants or them jogging pants. Hope you get that nap in cuz ain't you know if we if we did a ranking of naps, Thanksgiving nap would probably be number one. The only nap I think could compete with Thanksgiving nap is golf nap. Golf nap. Golf nap is something. And I love golf. But golf nap that's a different kind of nap. That's like a where have you been all my life kind of nap. Black coffee no sweetener. Man, you insane. That's just I again I understand the health benefits but you probably have skin suits in your trunk. I hate to be the one to tell you that. And you probably are the start of a dine episode. Uh so yeah, after church nap, I should say when I was regularly attending church, that was a thing. Um always a good one. You know, even if you even that the NFL Sunday nap, if you catch that nap,

1:26:48 like maybe it's after the first set of games, but like before halftime or the next set of games or the afternoon games, but like there there's a sweet spot in there that's just undeniable. Uh anyway, y'all have fun on Thanksgiving. Thanks for hanging me hanging out with me here on another episode of Spitics Live. Again, continue to like, support. really appreciate how you guys have held me down. And I'm gonna keep talking. Y'all gonna keep listening. I'mma keep talking. Enjoy your Thanksgiving. Get full as hell. And I hope the wrong person don't make the mac and cheese. I I wouldn't wish that on nobody. And I will let y'all know, final thing. If I finally get these cheesecakes, please let this happen. Ple please, Lord, let me get this sweet potato cheesecake and this um and this cinnamon roll pound cake. We gonna wish that into existence. All right, y'all.

1:27:42 Enjoy your Thanksgiving.

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