Some Words Of Advice In Light Of This Conservative Scandal

What this episode is about

The discussion centers around a recent scandal involving conservative influencers Elijah Schaefer and Sarah Stock, highlighting the risks associated with both personal and professional relationships. The narrative explores allegations of infidelity and inappropriate behavior at conservative events, underscoring the potential consequences of reckless decision-making in a high-profile environment.

Key takeaways

• In the world of influencers, scandal is just another episode in the never-ending soap opera called life.
• Professional risks fuel success, but personal risks might just lead to 'Days of Our Lives' drama.
• Happiness might be simple: faith, family, and fulfillment—no affair can compete with that trifecta.
• CPAC after-parties: where political aspirations go to die, alongside reputations and marital vows.
• Men, if happiness is your goal, steer clear of temptation; sometimes, the real danger is in the afterparty.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Matt Walsh (Host) · 16 min speaking
• Elijah Schaefer (Guest)
• Sarah Stock (Guest)
• Milo Yiannopoulos (Guest)

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Elijah Schaefer, Sarah Stock, CPAC, Milo Yiannopoulos
2. 3:00 – 6:00: CPAC
3. 12:00 – 15:00: Policy Genius

Notable quotes from "Some Words Of Advice In Light Of This Conservative Scandal"

• Influencer guy, is now headed for a divorce. And it was revealed that allegedly he had an affair with a woman named Sarah Stock, who's a conservative influencer, sort of…

  about Sarah Stock · at 0:59

• She did a good job and but never met her and I don't know her. Apparently, she worked with Elijah or for him. he was her boss at in this his conservative media company called…

  about Elijah Schaefer · at 2:13

• Part. I want to make sure that they're taken care of if something were to ever happen to me. God forbid. That's where our sponsor, Policy Genius, comes in.

  about Policy Genius · at 14:30

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Elijah Schaefer — Person · Referenced subject of scandal · 2 mentions · first at 0:54
  Cited as the conservative podcaster/commentator at the center of an alleged affair and impending divorce; used as a cautionary example about personal vs professional risk-taking.
• Sarah Stock — Person · Referenced subject of scandal · 2 mentions · first at 1:05
  Named as the alleged affair partner in the story; also described as a newer conservative influencer who may have worked for/with Schaefer.
• Milo Yiannopoulos — Person · Referenced source/publisher of alleged evidence · 1 mention · first at 1:26
  Identified as the person who posted alleged text messages and audio recordings related to the scandal; the speaker notes uncertainty about how he obtained them.
  Obviously, there are text messages and audio recordings which were posted by Milo Yiannopoulos. I don't know how he got him. and there are stories of alcohol and drugs on the part of Schaefer, other lurid details,.

Places & events

• CPAC — Event · Setting · 2 mentions · first at 1:37
  Mentioned as a location where conservative conferences turn into scandalous events, contributing to the episode's theme of personal and professional risks.
  Alcohol and drugs on the part of Schaefer, other lurid details, affairs happening at CPAC.

Sponsors

• Policy Genius — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at 14:33
  Promoted as a life insurance marketplace to help protect families, mentioned in a sponsor segment.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 sometimes take risks professionally. Never take any risks in your personal life. Never go in any situation where it's like uh this could get weird, right? That's the thing is like I'm go to the afterparty with her. I'm going to hang out with this woman who I know from you're putting stuff on the line that should never be on the line. So, I wasn't sure if I would comment on this and and normally it's the kind of thing that I I don't comment on, but I do feel compelled to say a few things. Uh, so over on X right now, we there's a new episode of a right-wing influencer soap opera happening. There's a new episode of Days of Our Lives that, you know, right-wing influencer edition. And I'm not going to get into all the embarrassing details. You can go find out about it yourself. It's all over the place.

0:47 Just that just a brief overview so you understand what is precipitating what I'm about to say. As the story goes, allegedly, uh, Elijah Schaefer, who's a conservative podcaster and commentator, influencer guy, is now headed for a divorce. And it was revealed that allegedly he had an affair with a woman named Sarah Stock, who's a conservative influencer, sort of recent, new to the scene, kind of recent, and was herself in a relationship with a man that she eventually married, but before she married and but was in a relationship with a guy, this trrist was going on.

1:19 And I don't know what's true or what isn't. I can't confirm anything. Obviously, there are text messages and uh audio recordings which were posted by Milo Yiannopoulos. I don't know how he got him. Uh and there are stories of alcohol and drugs on the part of Schaefer, other lurid details, uh affairs happening at CPAC. Um which part of the story you hear often with these soap operas of like conservative conferences turning into drugfueled orgies and and all that. So all that stuff is out there. It's all It's all going viral. I'm not revealing anything that isn't plastered everywhere already. And I have nothing to say about the specifics because I I don't know anything. I don't know these people.

1:59 I've met Elijah a few times. I think we did I think we did Tim P's show together one or two times. Sarah Stock I've mentioned on the show once or twice. Uh she did she was in that clip of the um the surrounded episode where I think she she did a good job and um but never met her and I don't know her. Apparently, she worked with Elijah or for him. Uh he was her boss at in this his conservative media company called The Rift. It's all very sad. Feel bad for the families. I feel bad about the whole thing. I take no pleasure in any of it. I can't imagine how anybody would. Certainly not here to gloat or gossip. Pray for everybody involved. You know, I I I hope all the damaged lives can be repaired. I just feel compelled to say a few things in the way of advice or or words of caution.

2:47 And really, it's just this because anytime I see a married man whose life comes crumbling down because he was off having affairs and partying and doing all that kind of stuff, which let's be honest, is pretty common. I mean, it's pretty common in general. It's pretty common in the business in my business. There's a lot of that going on and a lot of it does happen at conservative conferences like CPAC and all those kinds of events. That's why I that's why I don't have a lot of friends in this business. I have I have a small group of people that I would consider friends who I know and work with and trust. I have a larger group of acquaintances who I you know would sometimes call friends in a sense but uh I I work with but I don't I don't or I've worked with friendly with I don't really hang out with though. As for everyone else I don't you know I don't know I don't know these people.

3:43 I don't talk to them. I don't go to the events. Uh if I do go it's just to give a speech and leave. Never go to the after parties. I've been to CPAC a couple of times. I mean, we were there last year. We did a we did a podcast from the stage. Not going to like an afterparty. No. On the rare occasion that I do go to any kind of like conservative function, uh, usually because I'm speaking or something, if there's a party or a cocktail hour or whatever, uh, and I and I always want to avoid those, but sometimes, especially if I'm speaking, they'll go they'll say, "Well, we got this cocktail hour hour ahead of time. Would you want to go to that?" And my answer is, could I can you just stab me to death instead?

4:29 Can you just stab me? I How about that? You want me to go to your cocktail hour? How about instead you just stab me in the face to death? Can we do that instead? That's my counter. But sometimes you got to go. It's all part of the thing. So, and I prefer to bring my wife uh to those kinds of things. Anyway, all that to say, these kinds of scandals are not uncommon in society generally and in the media business especially. So, here's what I want to say to the to the men out there, and this applies to women, too. You know, there there was there was a woman involved in this story allegedly, and but I'm a man, and so I want to talk to the men. As a man, if you want to be happy, which who doesn't?

5:15 As far as I can tell, there are three things that you should have if you want to be happy. And it's really only three things. So, it's actually pretty pretty simple. That's the good news. First of all, you need to have a faith. You know, a man cannot be happy without having some sense of ultimate purpose in his life. What's it all for? What does it all mean? The answer can't be nothing. There's no happiness in that. Second, you need a family, a wife and children who you love and who love you. And third, you need a profession. You need you need a vocation that is important to you. And I say important to you because that's what I mean. It's, you know, it it it you don't need other people to think that it's important. Everyone has different jobs, different vocations, and you might do something for a living that other people look at and they don't think it's that important or they don't see why you care

6:09 about it that much. Doesn't matter. You have to think that what you go out and do every day matters. It doesn't really matter if other people find it important. You have to find it important. If you don't do anything right, if you aren't pursuing any goal, if you have no vocation, if you have no profession as a man, that is a recipe for misery. That's just pure misery. And if you do something every day that you don't think matters, that doesn't even matter to you, that isn't even important to you, uh then that is also misery. Either one of those things is misery.

6:47 So if you have a faith, if you have a family, if you have a job, you know, a vocation that matters to you, then you have everything. Like you you have all of the ingredients for a happy life. All of the ingredients you could ever need. You don't need any other ingredients. You don't need to look around and say, "I need to add to this. I need more." No, you don't. Stop looking. You won. You got it. Now, the goal is to grow in each of those categories. So, it's not over. But you have the loving family. You have faith. And you have a profession. You have a job you care about. You have a vocation. Well, now grow. You grow in faith. You grow in your love and devotion to your family. you grow in your career, in your profession, whatever it is. And that's all you need for a happy life.

7:38 And then don't it up. Like, sorry to be crass, but your your goal as a man should be to have those things. Faith, family, a job that matters to you. And if you have all that, don't it up. Cuz so often I see men who have all that, they have it all. Like really, you have it all. And and they squander it. And women do this too. You know, don't give me plenty of cases where women have a happy, loving family, a loving spouse who's loyal to them and they go and they ruin it. They ruin it for nothing. Like for nothing at all.

8:12 What are you getting out of this? You go and have an affair or something. It's like it's dest like it's guaranteed misery. Is guaranteed you're ruining your life. You're going to regret this forever. You're not going to be happy. You are ruining everything. Why? So, it's I'm not putting it all on men, but I'm just I'm talking about men right now. And I think I can more credibly like give the ingredients for a happy life for men because I am one. But here's the thing. If you're a man and you have a family, cuz all that seems obvious enough, although it can't be said enough.

8:46 If you're a man and you have a family and you have a job, but you crave more excitement, you know, you want more action, you want more excitement, you want more of a challenge, you want more to do, that's fine. That's good. Yeah, you should feel that. I feel that. So go and find that excitement, find that risk-taking in your pursuits, in your profession, in your vocation, whatever that looks like. Don't be reckless. Don't be stupid, especially if you have a family, if you have kids. But, you know, men do crave excitement. And what I'm saying is that you should harness that energy into your pursuits.

9:24 I'm not saying that you get married and have kids and all that and you become this like domesticated unic who who has no other goals and ambitions and and and and has no desire to like get out there in the world and do something. I'm not saying that at all. You don't want to become that. But you harness that. Like every man needs a mountain to climb. We all we all need that. So I'm not saying that a man should have his family and his job and just be content to coast and glide for the rest of his days. No, you need a mountain. You need a challenge. So find that in your profession, find that in your career, maybe a hobby too, you know, or something like that. Like that that can also be an outlet for that kind of masculine drive to challenge yourself, to find excitement.

10:06 And um, you know, for me, I do what I do every day. It's important to me. Other people sometimes will look at what I do. You just talk for a living. It it's frivolous. And that's fine. I think it's important. I care about it. And uh but the thing that really excites me in my specific like career path is making movies. So over the past 5 years, I've discovered for myself a new challenge, something that I find very exciting, very difficult, extremely rewarding. And that's where I harness most of my sort of risk-taking, excitement seeking energy into that. And and for you it will, you know, it's be something different, whatever it is. But here's the crucial point. As a grown man, you should not be seeking excitement in your personal life, in your social life.

11:02 You shouldn't be seeking it at parties or bars. Um, you shouldn't be seeking it in the company of other women. Most of all, as a grown man, your personal life should be one of peace and contentment. and quiet. I mean, as quiet as it can be. I got six kids at home, you know, but but spiritually spiritually quiet. Uh if you want to mix things up, you know, you're feeling bored, take on a new project, pursue a new goal, like try to achieve something. You don't want an exciting personal life full of drama and challenge. You don't want that. Like you want a personal life that is peaceful and quiet and stable and reliable and you know what you're going to get with people you know and people you love and people you trust.

11:55 And so some men, this is what I see, they take the wrong path and they end up in the reverse scenario. This is the worst possible world that you could be in. And these are men whose professional lives often are dull and unfulfilling. They're not really pursuing anything meaningful. They're not doing anything that they care about. But their personal lives are full of drama and intrigue and dysfunction. And when you talk to them, they always have a new problem. They always have a new obstacle. But not the good kind of problem, right? Not the problem that someone who's doing something exciting, doing something important, doing something meaningful, like they run into problems in pursuit of that goal. That's one kind of problem to have. But these are people who have personal problems, relationship problems.

12:43 These are men with tension and suspense in their personal lives because they have secrets that they're always working to keep hidden and lies that they're trying to keep straight, right? Lots of excitement, lots of suspense, and the wrong kind. What you want is a home that is properly ordered, that is peaceful and loving, that you can come back to after a day spent pursuing whatever your goals are. And and that's what you want. I know for me, like the picture of happiness, life at its peak for me is when I spend the day working on something very difficult and challenging, but important to me, where the stakes are high, success is not certain. you know, it could it could it might not work out, but I and then I go home and I and I and I'm home with my wife and my kids. I listen to my children tell me about their day and all the things that happened that are objectively less important than what I have been doing,

13:41 but I listen and I care and now my mind is focused on something smaller, something closer to home. And uh and they rarely ask me about my day. I find a lot of comfort in that. I find a lot of comfort in I could go I could be dealing with stuff and I got a lot of things going on and all these sorts of things and then I come home it's like what's going on with you guys and they'll unload all their stories and uh very rarely do they say what what's going on with you dad and I'm it to me that is happiness because I'm home now and and and that's what that's what matters is that I'm home and uh that's all a man can ask for. Looking back at where I started to where I am today makes me truly appreciate everything that my wife and I have built together. Through it all, my family is by far the most important part. I want to make sure that they're taken care of if something were to ever happen to me. God forbid. That's where

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15:49 Maybe make some smart gamles on occasion that if they don't pay off may set you back. Again, you got to be smart about it, especially if you have kids. But, uh, you should be doing that kind of thing, taking gamles, taking risks. I I believe in that. Never take any risks in your personal life. That's where you don't want to be risky. Never take any risks. Never go in any situation. Put yourself in any situation where it's like, uh, this could get weird, right? That's the thing is like, I'm go to the afterparty with her. I'm going to hang out with this woman who I know from that's risk. That's weird.

16:32 That's you're putting stuff on the line that should never be on the line because that thing you have, your loving family, that is the one thing that you never put on the line. You could put all your chips on the table, never put those on the table. That's for you. Never put yourself in a position to lose that. Ever. Ever.

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Some Words Of Advice In Light Of This Conservative Scandal"?

Matt Walsh (Host), Elijah Schaefer (Guest), Sarah Stock (Guest), Milo Yiannopoulos (Guest).

What is "Some Words Of Advice In Light Of This Conservative Scandal" about?

The discussion centers around a recent scandal involving conservative influencers Elijah Schaefer and Sarah Stock, highlighting the risks associated with both personal and professional relationships. The narrative explores allegations of infidelity and inappropriate behavior at conservative events, underscoring the potential consequences of reckless decision-making in a high-profile environment.

What is mentioned in this Matt Walsh episode?

5 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Elijah Schaefer, Sarah Stock, CPAC, Milo Yiannopoulos. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Some Words Of Advice In Light Of This Conservative Scandal"?

The episode runs 17 min; the transcript is about 3,118 words in 23 timestamped sections.

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