Breaking News in Nancy Guthrie Investigation Include Delivery Man Detained and RELEASED and New Note

What this episode is about

The investigation into the abduction of Nancy Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of NBC host Savannah Guthrie, has seen significant developments, including the release of a man initially detained as a person of interest and the emergence of a new note in the case. Despite ongoing concerns for Guthrie's safety due to her age and health issues, authorities continue to search for her, raising questions about the validity of the suspect's alibi and the potential mishandling of leads.

Key takeaways

• In the chaos of breaking news, not all suspects fit the profile—sometimes, they simply fit the description.
• Nancy Guthrie's case is a stark reminder: even advanced technology can fail when basic precautions aren't taken.
• An FBI investigation can turn a sleepy case into a headline—proof that urgency can change everything.
• Sometimes 'hope' wears thin—like the alibis of potential suspects that sound better at 4 AM with no coffee.
• In a world of misinformation, knowing what you think you know may be the biggest mystery of all.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Megyn Kelly (Guest) · 16 min speaking
• Cash Patel · 1 min speaking
• Brian Enton (Guest) · 1 min speaking
• Harvey Levin (Guest) · 1 min speaking
• Wanita (Guest) · 1 min speaking
• Josephina (Guest) · 1 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 5:00: Nancy Guthrie, Google LLC, Savannah Guthrie, Nest
2. 5:00 – 10:00: Nancy Guthrie, Savannah Guthrie, Cash Patel, Google LLC
3. 10:00 – 15:00: Bitcoin, Harvey Levin
4. 15:00 – 20:00: Bitcoin, Harvey Levin, Birch Gold Group

Notable quotes from "Breaking News in Nancy Guthrie Investigation Include Delivery Man Detained and RELEASED and New Note"

• Guy? not sure what's happening there, but we're going to talk about it with our panel. this is all in the search for Nancy Guthrie, an 84year-old woman. She's the mother of NBC…

  about Nancy Guthrie · at 0:58

• Plural, front and back. And he was telling us that was kind of it because Nancy Guthrie didn't pay for a recording service and that meant there wasn't going to be a record. He…

  about Nest · at 3:37

• Marked for deletion, but it's not actually gone until it's actually overwritten by something. And it's possible it just that piece of tape stored in the Google system had not yet been overwritten.

  about Google LLC · at 5:11

• Realized they had the wrong guy. But the alibi we heard from his mother-in-law, Brian Enton, intrepid reporter that he is, actually followed the cops down there, got the…

  about Brian Enton · at 7:10

• I don't know. I don't know enough about it to say whether this is a smart strategy or not. I am sure that Savannah has said, I'll pay what I need to pay in order to incentivize…

  about Savannah Guthrie · at 9:38

• And two local Tucson news outlets the same letter we're told by authorities demanding a ransom saying they have Nancy, she's okay, but they want 4 million dollars in Bitcoin if…

  about Bitcoin · at 10:34

• Whether that's a crime or what that is, but it's despicable. and I'm and Harvey said that he gave that information to the FBI. So, this person has given their name or a name…

  about Harvey Levin · at 15:10

• There's a never- ending list of reasons gold has risen over 700% in the last 20 years, and a never- ending list of reasons smart Americans diversify a portion of their savings into precious.

  about Birch Gold Group · at 19:13

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Nancy Guthrie — Person · Missing person / central subject of investigation · 7 mentions · first at 1:03
  The episode centers on the reported abduction and ongoing search for Nancy Guthrie, including FBI involvement, alleged ransom notes, and evolving leads.
• Savannah Guthrie — Person · Referenced public figure / family member of missing person · 3 mentions · first at 1:06
  Identified as Nancy Guthrie’s daughter and an NBC host; her family’s public pleas and the case’s media attention are discussed in relation to the investigation and ransom communications.
• Harvey Levin — Person · Referenced media figure / TMZ representative · 4 mentions · first at 11:10
  Discussed as a key media intermediary receiving ransom-related communications and later an alleged extortion email offering a suspect name for one bitcoin; he is portrayed as selectively sharing details and passing info to the FBI.
• Cash Patel — Person · Referenced official source (FBI Director, as stated in episode) · 1 mention · first at 5:24
  Quoted describing investigative progress and stating there are “multiple persons of interest,” framing the episode’s update on law-enforcement actions and technical recovery of camera data.
  That's that's crazy to know how it works. in any event, here's FBI Director Cash Patel last night on Hannity telling us that there are quote multiple persons of interest. Now, watch Sean without polluting the.
• Brian Enton — Person · Referenced field reporter · 1 mention · first at 7:14
  Cited as the reporter who followed law enforcement activity and interviewed the detained delivery driver’s mother-in-law, providing the publicly aired alibi details.

Companies & orgs

• Google LLC — Company · Business focus · 4 mentions · first at 3:13
  Google's ownership of Nest and its role in the investigation into Nancy Guthrie's kidnapping is discussed, particularly regarding data recovery from Nest cameras.

Products & tech

• Nest — Product · Case study · 2 mentions · first at 3:23
  Nest cameras are pivotal in the investigation, with discussions about their functionality and limitations in recording and storing footage.

Concepts & topics

• Bitcoin — Concept · Key argument · 11 mentions · first at 10:45
  Bitcoin is central to the ransom demands in the case of Nancy Guthrie's kidnapping, highlighting its use in criminal transactions.

Sponsors

• Birch Gold Group — Company · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at 19:24
  Birch Gold Group is mentioned in the context of an advertisement, promoting gold investment as a hedge against economic uncertainty.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 There is a ton of breaking news. I mean, overnight it was insane. I don't know about you, I was up until about almost 1 following the news coverage and then we all set our alarms for AM update for 400 am because we usually put that script to bed before we go to sleep, but we knew there'd be potential breaking news overnight. So, at 4:00, we hauled our butts out of bed for you guys. You could hear the difference in my normal voice versus my 4:00 a.m. voice. Though in fairness to myself, I was trying not to wake up my family as we um updated the script to let you know that the person of interest that they had pulled over or the quote subject that they'd been calling him had been released. Uh so they there was a a lot happening last night as they went down close to the Mexico border and got this guy and then it turned out to be we believe now nothing. Um they're saying that he has an alibi though we heard his alibi and

0:47 it didn't seem all that amazing. Is it more likely that they just realized after talking to him they didn't have the right guy? And are we really just like doing this to people based on the fact that they look a little like the guy? Um, not sure what's happening there, but we're going to talk about it with our panel. Uh, this is all in the search for Nancy Guthrie, an 84year-old woman. She's the mother of NBC host Savannah Guthrie, as you know by now, who may or may not still be alive. You know, many of us presume that the worst may have happened by now given her heart issues, given the fact that this was clearly a violent man who abducted her.

1:22 Um, and just given, you know, playing the odds of this person who doesn't really appear to have negotiated at all or at a minimum in good faith with the family if you believe those ransom notes are from him. But she could still be alive. We don't know in fact what happened to Nancy Guthrie. And last night there was a report for a minute that an 84year-old, this is unconfirmed online, had been taken to this hospital in Arizona via LifeFlight. And there was this hope where it was like, "Oh my god, what if? What if? What if?" And then they quickly said, "That's not her." So you you do get these periodic reminders that there's what you know and there's what you think you know. And we do not know the status of Nancy Guthrie. You know, Savannah and family are hoping and praying and believe she's still alive.

2:12 And then there are many of us who are hoping and praying she's still alive, but believe she's likely not for those reasons I stated. Um, in any event, we do know that she was forcibly taken from her home in the early hours of last Sunday, two Sundays ago, um, that day, February 1st. And that means she has not been seen for 11 days. Not by anyone who cares about her. We were live on the air together when we got those stunning photos yesterday and the videos from the FBI in what is sure to be a game changer in this case showing an armed man in a mask approaching NY's home in an incredibly creepy ass video. So, it seems the FBI is now taking an increased role in the investigation after the Pima County Sheriff's Department did not appear to be making much progress. We heard that sheriff told us that he had sent off the videotape or there was a videotape to send, but he had contacted the Nest camera company, which is

3:13 Google, by the way. That's who owns and makes Nest, saying, "Is there anything on here?" Is like the camera's gone. He said it's not in our possession. Um, we have one, by the way. We're going to get into it, but here is what the Nest camera looks like. Um, and we're going to show you a demonstration that we did with this thing. But he said, "They're gone. We don't have them." So, we believe the perpetrator took the nest cams off of Nancy Guthri's doors, plural, front and back. And um, he was telling us that that was kind of it because Nancy Guthrie didn't pay for a recording service and that meant there wasn't going to be a record. He said it the cameras record a couple a little like some images, but they rewrite themselves every hour or so when you don't pay for the recording service. And this, of course, you know, she was taken, we believe, around 2:30 a.m.

4:04 Saturday night to Sunday. And they didn't find her missing until the next day at noon. So would have been long overwritten. But he said they had reached out to Google to find out, you know, could anything be recovered. Then the FBI got involved and things stepped up significantly. It does seem that the FBI got a warrant or put some pressure on Google. We don't know. Cash referred to like our our private partners. We worked with our private partners to get this done. Um, in any event, that's how they hit pay dirt. And you can only imagine the guy whose job it was to actually call through all the cached images in the Google database of all the homes. Maybe they can target it geographically. Maybe he knew Tucson. I don't know if you can get it down to a specific street, never mind a specific address, and try to comb through all these like stored images. We're told by one expert that what happens is when you

4:58 delete when like the Google service is deleting Nancy Guthri's images from 2:30 a.m. or 1:47 a.m. that night, it doesn't mean it's totally gone. It means it's marked for deletion, but it's not actually gone until it's actually overwritten by something. And it's possible it just that piece of tape stored in the Google system had not yet been overwritten. That's that's crazy to know how it works. Um, in any event, here's FBI Director Cash Patel last night on Hannity telling us that there are quote multiple persons of interest. Now, watch

5:36 Sean without um, you know, polluting the investigation. I will say we have made substantial progress in these last 36 48 hours thanks to the technical capabilities of the FBI and our partnerships and I do believe we are looking at people who as we say are persons of interest but as you know with any investigation you're a person of interest until you're either eliminated or you're actually found to be the culprit or the culprit's involved and that's the stage we're at right now. multiple persons of interest. That sounded promising. And last night, a delivery man was detained right by the Mexico border on the Arizona side as part of this investigation. SWAT was there. We told we were told a hostage rescue team was on scene uh at least at least in Tucson. I'm not sure whether they actually wound up going down to this area near the Mexico border, but we're, you know, the reports of the SWAT

6:28 team and the hostage rescue and then that report unconfirmed of an 84 year old woman in a lifeflight helicopter and now multiple persons of interest and boom, somebody's a subject, that's how I referred to him, a subject is being detained and they're searching his house and the reporters traveled immediately down. It was about an hour south of where Nancy Guthrie lived. Uh but it appears very much that they had the wrong guy. His world has now calmed down dramatically. Law enforcement has moved on. He was released after they say his alibi checked out. Now again, I don't totally understand. I don't I'm not sure. I believe the alibi thing. I I'm guessing they just talked to him and realized they had the wrong guy. But the alibi we heard from his mother-in-law, Brian Enton, intrepid reporter that he is, actually followed the cops down there, got the mother-in-law, Wanita, on tape on NewsNation. I watched it live

7:23 and Wanita said his his alibi was he doesn't work uh I think she said Thursday, Friday, Saturday or it was or it was Friday, Saturday, Sunday nights and he lives with her and her daughter and that he was home. That that was the alibi. So, it's not exactly airtight. I'm just going to guess since they do appear to have entirely moved on from Carlos that there was something else that convinced them this was not their guy. But this guy had his cage rattled last night. He spoke to the media right after his release. Watch.

7:54 How would you describe what happened to you? Terrifying. Something I didn't do for something I was being I felt like I was being kidnapped, bro. Cuz they didn't tell me anything at the beginning. I was detained the whole time. That's what they told me. Where were they? At the back of a car. a Miranda car and then they move me into a Puma County Sheriff.

8:11 Were you being questioned in the car? At the Miranda car, I was being questioned, but they only asked me for my first name, my last name, my date of birth, and my social.

8:19 Okay. What What were they asking you about? Where were my whereabouts? Okay. Where do I work? Where was I and all that? But

8:26 are you ever up in Tucson? Yeah, I work in Tucson. What do you do? GLS. Deliver packages.

8:31 Okay. Do you think you might have delivered a package to Nancy Guthri's house? I don't know. Might have been a possibility. I don't know. Uh, by the way, Josephina, not Wanita, is the name of his mother-in-law. So, the search for Nancy Guthrie and whoever took her continues. Now, it's been just about 24 hours exactly since they released those photos. And I guarantee the tip lines are going nuts. Let's not forget there's been a $50,000 reward posted by the FBI for information that leads to the finding of Nancy Guthrie andor the arrest of whomever took her.

9:05 And there's been some criticism of that number by some people saying it should be higher if you want to truly incentivize somebody to turn in a bad guy. And I get that argument. I do. I'm somewhat tempted by it. But I think the the general thinking is that if you go too high, you encourage all the nut cases. Like they're just desperate to get money. And so you, you know, maybe quadruple the number of tips coming in, but you quadruple them in the FBI's experience with no nothings who are just taking a shot at getting the money. Um, I don't know. I don't know enough about it to say whether this is a smart strategy or not. I am sure that Savannah has said, "I'll pay what I need to pay in order to incentivize the return of my mom." And I'll bet you anything that she's had a lot of well-wishers. I mean, I happen to know that she's dear friends with one of the richest families in New York. And there is zero chance those

9:57 people could, you know, didn't offer to help her. I mean, even the six million would have they it would have not even been a rounding error for them. I'm sure I'm sure they would have offered to help. So, it's got to be strategic these decisions, not paying the ransom, though there's a question about that that I'm going to get into right now andor not raising the $50,000 reward money. Now, okay, on the ransom demands, because as you recall, there's not only the fact that NY's missing, there's this separate and possibly related lane of someone demanding ransom. And this someone wrote to TMZ and two local Tucson news outlets the same letter we're told by authorities demanding a ransom saying they have Nancy, she's okay, but they want 4 million uh dollars in Bitcoin if they had paid it by last Thursday. When they didn't, they had said in advance it's going to go up to 6 million and the final deadline is Monday, meaning 2 days

10:57 ago, 5:00 p.m. Bitcoin. You saw the family's please on camera saying, "We understand. We want to hear from you." They never contacted the family. They only contacted the media with this message. And the family begged for a direct message or instructions or proof of life. None of which ever came. Harvey Leven was on the air the other day saying maybe that second letter, which he did not receive, it was only sent to one local news outlet. Maybe it had proof of life. It didn't. That local news outlet's sister station reported.

11:24 Do we have the soundbite, Deb, from yesterday? Can we bring it over? um which is the the the sister station to that station which I think is called Arizona Family uh went on the air and specifically made clear that this second note which they did not describe as a ransom demand because apparently didn't renew that demand did not have proof of life in there and and it's one of the reasons why the Guthrie family was so forlorn I'm guessing in their message where the three of them came back on camera and just said, "We understand. We have your message and give us back our mother so we can celebrate with her and so that and we'll never have peace unless we can have this. We will pay."

12:13 So, it seemed to be a new negotiation of maybe she's not okay, but we'll still take her. Like, we want to me it sounded like we we'll take her back dead or alive and we will pay. Um, this is all speculation because the authorities have not released the actual notes even though we're now past the deadline, which, you know, I query whether it's now time to release the notes um in the same way that they released the Uni Bomber writings. uh because they might shed some light on who this is. There might be somebody who recognizes a turn of phrase, etc. to say, "Oh, yeah, I know who this is or I see a clue that you didn't see." Do we have it, Deb?

12:58 Sorry. Okay, never mind. We're going to move on. Trust me when I tell you that the local station said there is no proof of life in the second soundbite. So, TMZ's Harvey Leven is back on the air again this morning. This time he says TMZ has received a letter from someone who says they know who the kidnapper is and they want one bitcoin which is worth about $60,000 in exchange for giving up the name. So they want their own ransom for revealing who the kidnapper is. Here's Harvey trying to explain on Fox.

13:36 So an hour and a half ago we got a kind of a bizarre letter. uh an email from somebody who says they know who the kidnapper is and that they have tried reaching uh Savannah's sister Annie and Savannah's brother uh to no avail. And they said they want one bitcoin sent to a Bitcoin address that we have confirmed is active. It's a real Bitcoin address. Um and um as they put it, time is more than relevant. So we have no idea um whether this is real or not, but they are making a demand. It's interesting that you know bit bitcoins fluctuate in value. Um but it's around $56,000 now, one bitcoin, which is about the amount uh that the uh authorities are offering for information leading to the return of Nancy. So, I don't know if that aligns, but whoever sent this, and they actually give a name um that um and an email address, but whoever sent this is asking for around that amount uh via Bitcoin.

14:52 So, that person should be under arrest soon. Like they're trying to extort uh whom? the FBI, Harvey, TMZ in exchange for giving information they should just give. I don't know actually whether that's a crime or what that is, but it's despicable. Um, and I'm and Harvey said that he gave that information to the FBI. So, this person has given their name or a name and an email and a real Bitcoin address um and saying time is more than relevant, which is a weird way of phrasing it. That's not a thing. Time is of the essence is the phrase. Time is more than relevant. So, I'm not sure.

15:35 This could be and sounds like just another scammer. So, we'll see. But Harvey also seemed to have new information about whether a ransom has been paid into the Bitcoin account revealed in the first ransom letter to TMZ. This is where things are getting interesting. So, with respect to Harvey, I think he's playing this whole thing too cubed by half. Okay? Because You know, he's lifting the dress up, but only so much. And like, this is very important. This life or death does stuff. Like, I'm not sure. I think if I were in his position, I'd probably either be saying nothing or everything.

16:10 I mean, he's a member of the news media, and I guess he's given agreements to law enforcement not to reveal like so much, just enough to titilate. I'm not sure what's happening here, but take a listen.

16:23 Late last night, there was a Bitcoin address uh that had $6 million deposited in it. I don't know if that's real or a ruse, but I'm sure you know of it. Um, when you looked at that address, did it match what you saw in letter number one from several days ago?

16:42 I am not comfortable commenting on this. Okay. So then it's possible um that the Bitcoin address that was requested turned out to be uh this particular one. And that would

16:57 I wouldn't read anything. I I wouldn't read anything into this. Okay. So, if the suggestion that money was paid may not necessarily be the case. Is that what you're saying?

17:06 Correct. Do do you have any idea what what's h I don't. I'm sure you're just as confused as I am. and and Harvey would not even comment on the report from local Tucson station KGUN that indeed there had been activity in the Bitcoin account listed in that first ransom note but that it was less than $300 KGN which also received the same letter Harvey did putting an actual number on what was deposited into the Bitcoin account that again this is not the guy demanding a Bitcoin to reveal the name of the alleged kidnapper. This is possibly the actual kidnapper who wrote a real ransom note saying, "I have Nancy. She's okay, and I want 4 million or $6 million." And Harvey revealed he saw activity in the account, but wouldn't say more. KGUN, who also received that note, revealed, "We see activity in that account as well last night, but it's less than $300 that's been deposited into the account."

18:16 Watch. Here's Harvey. This $300 that was deposited last night that you were talking about with Sean, has that gone anywhere since that was reported last night by you? I have never said an amount and there is a reason I haven't said an amount and I am going to stick to that regardless of what anybody else has said. There are reasons behind why I'm saying that. Um, but I um I gave my word on something and I don't want to impede this in any way and I'm going to stick to what I said which is simply that there was activity and I'm not going to say more about what the activity is or I respect that last

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Breaking News in Nancy Guthrie Investigation Include Delivery Man Detained and RELEASED and New Note"?

Megyn Kelly (Guest), Cash Patel, Brian Enton (Guest), Harvey Levin (Guest), Wanita (Guest), Josephina (Guest).

What is "Breaking News in Nancy Guthrie Investigation Include Delivery Man Detained and RELEASED and New Note" about?

The investigation into the abduction of Nancy Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of NBC host Savannah Guthrie, has seen significant developments, including the release of a man initially detained as a person of interest and the emergence of a new note in the case. Despite ongoing concerns for Guthrie's safety due to her age and health issues, authorities continue to search for her, raising…

What is mentioned in this Megyn Kelly episode?

9 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Nancy Guthrie, Bitcoin, Savannah Guthrie, Google LLC, Harvey Levin, Nest. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Breaking News in Nancy Guthrie Investigation Include Delivery Man Detained and RELEASED and New Note"?

The episode runs 20 min; the transcript is about 3,611 words in 32 timestamped sections.

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