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Exclusive Reporting Outside Nancy Guthrie's Home Reveals CHALLENGES For Police, with Phil Holloway

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· 16 min · 2,746 words · 23 timestamped sections

This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Exclusive Reporting Outside Nancy Guthrie's Home Reveals CHALLENGES For Police, with Phil Holloway", an episode of Megyn Kelly published February 10, 2026 (16 min, about 2,746 words). It mentions 9 people, works and ideas, including Nancy Guthrie, Chris Nanos, Phil Holloway, Savannah Guthrie, Daily Mail.

What this episode is about

The investigation into Nancy Guthrie's mysterious disappearance reveals discrepancies in the initial reports regarding her attendance at church, highlighting that she had not attended in-person services since the pandemic but was participating in a live stream from her daughter’s church in New York. Following her absence from the live stream, a concerned friend contacted the family, initiating an ongoing search for the 84-year-old.

Key takeaways

  • Sheriff's 180-degree turns make you wonder if he's channeling a figure skater more than a lawman.
  • Nancy's church attendance was a pandemic ghost story—missing the service but present online in spirit.
  • Online sleuths: the modern-day detectives scrutinizing facts while some sheriffs seem to improvise on live TV.
  • The terrain around Nancy's house proves crucial; investigating crime scenes isn't just about witness statements.
  • Who knew a missing person's case could lead to so many wrong turns? Law enforcement, do your homework!

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 3:00: Savannah Guthrie, Chris Nanos, Daily Mail, Annie Duke
  2. – 6:00: Phil Holloway, Chris Nanos, Ashley Banfield
  3. – 9:00: Annie Duke
  4. – 12:00: Chris Nanos
  5. – 15:00: Ashley Banfield
  6. – 16:00: Birch Gold Group

Notable quotes from "Exclusive Reporting Outside Nancy Guthrie's Home Reveals CHALLENGES For Police, with Phil Holloway"

  • Sometime earlier that morning, they got a call from somebody at the church who said, Hey, your mom's not here. the family went to the house at 11:00 in the morning. The family got.
    about Chris Nanos · at
  • After Nancy did not show up to watch this live stream on February 1st, Sunday last Sunday morning, a friend contacted Savannah's sister Annie, which then set off the desperate search that still has.
    about Nancy Guthrie · at
  • Happening to us or our loved ones. So we're really invested in making sure we get every fact correct. Unlike you where you sit there with your tweets and think that you can…
    about Ashley Banfield · at
  • Well and he has been on the ground reporting now for about a day there in Tucson. Phil, welcome. Thank you.
    about Phil Holloway · at
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Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Nancy Guthrie — Person · Missing person / subject of investigation · 6 mentions
    Central figure in the segment; discussion focuses on conflicting accounts of how her absence was noticed and the ongoing investigation into her disappearance.
  • Chris Nanos — Person · Law enforcement spokesperson / referenced official · 4 mentions · first at
    As Pima County Sheriff, he is criticized for inconsistent public statements about the initial report (church attendance) and for investigative/scene-management decisions.
  • Phil Holloway — Person · On-the-ground correspondent / legal analyst (guest) · 2 mentions · first at
    Provides field observations from Tucson and analysis of investigative issues (terrain, evidence handling, chain of custody, plausibility of extortion vs. abduction).
  • Savannah Guthrie — Person · Family member referenced; public-facing figure tied to NYC church · 3 mentions · first at
    Her NYC church livestream is described as the setting where Nancy’s absence was noticed; Savannah is also referenced via the Today Show segment and family communications.
    I sat down with Pastor Michael Rosenda in the very pews she and Savannah often pray in. This is Savannah's church and it's also it's also NY's church, right?
  • Annie Duke — Person · Family member referenced; contact point in timeline · 2 mentions · first at
    Described as Savannah’s sister; a friend contacted Annie after Nancy missed the Sunday livestream gathering, triggering the search.
    After Nancy did not show up to watch this live stream on February 1st, Sunday last Sunday morning, a friend contacted Savannah's sister Annie, which then set off the desperate…
  • Michael Rosenda — Person · Referenced clergy / interview subject on Today Show · 1 mention · first at
    Identified as the pastor of the Guthries’ NYC church; provides context that services were livestreamed during the pandemic and that Nancy began watching remotely.
    I sat down with Pastor Michael Rosenda in the very pews she and Savannah often pray in. This is Savannah's church and it's also it's also NY's church, right?
  • Ashley Banfield — Person · Referenced journalist / comparator in media-critique · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as another reporter/host trying to cover the case “in good faith,” used to rebut claims that online commentators caused confusion.

Companies & orgs

  • Daily Mail — Company · Referenced source · 1 mention · first at
    Cited as the source that broke the story about Nancy Guthrie's church attendance habits, influencing the narrative of the case.
    Because she had not attended service in person in Arizona since the pandemic as broken by the Daily Mail. And every day since the Daily Mail broke that, we at the MK show have…

Sponsors

  • Birch Gold Group — Company · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at
    Advertised as a service for diversifying savings into precious metals, particularly gold, during economic uncertainty.

Full transcript with timestamps

This is the mystery that we've been raising on this show for days now. You remember initially the reports were from the sheriff that Nancy was discovered missing after she failed to show up to church. Here's Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos trying to explain.

Sometime earlier that morning, they got a call from uh somebody at the church who said, "Hey, your your mom's not here." Um, the family went to the house at 11:00 in the morning. The family got noticed from somebody at church that she was not at church.

Someone at church notified them. She was not at church. I could I could play you four more. Okay. He said it repeatedly. Um, well, like many of Sheriff Nanos's statements, that did not check out because she had not attended service in person in Arizona since the pandemic as broken by the Daily Mail. And every day since the Daily Mail broke that, we at the MK show have been asking, "So, how did the family know that she wasn't allegedly at church?" Like, what is that report based on if she wasn't actually going to church? Then we found out that there was a live stream, but that you couldn't see if you were a congregant who was participating in it. We reported that to you. Then we found out that there was a chat along with the live stream. And we speculated here, could it possibly be that people reported in the chat that Nancy wasn't there, that that this 84year-old was joining the live stream chat? We had no idea and no one

would answer our questions. But now we know that Nancy did regularly gather with a small group of friends on Sundays to watch a live stream not of her church in Arizona, but of her daughter Savannah's church in New York City. Fox News reporting that last night. After Nancy did not show up to watch this live stream on February 1st, Sunday last Sunday morning, a friend contacted Savannah's sister Annie, which then set off the desperate search that still has not ended. The pastor of the Guthri's New York City church spoke out today on the Today Show.

I sat down with Pastor Michael Rosenda in the very pews she and Savannah often pray in. This is Savannah's church and it's also it's also NY's church, right?

Yeah. Over the years, Nancy would visit and we got a chance to meet her and know her a little bit. Um and then during the pandemic, we started out of necessity filming our services, our prayers, our sermons, and putting it out there into the world. And during that time, Nancy started to uh to watch

Okay. Just a word. Um, it's very annoying when these Johnny come lately to the story bomb in try to pass judgment on those of us who have been here reporting it from the beginning aggressively and with misinformation. And that's what leads me to Hall Monitor Brian Stelter. Hall monitor is out there tweeting the following. Online sleuths and internet commentators have sowed confusion in recent days about how exactly Nancy Guthri's absence was first noticed on February 1st. Here's the deal. And then he goes on to explain what went down.

Okay, it's not online sleuths and internet commentators who have sewed this confusion. It came directly from the sheriff multiple times. Hall monitor, do your homework. online sleuths and commentators have been trying to piece together what's real based on the sheriff's 180 reversals of his own comments if you just wait 24 hours. He is the one who said she didn't show up at church and someone at church noticed and called her family. Um the the misinformation around this has just been pretty legion. That sheriff, I mean, she was snatched from her bed, then he had to take that back.

He's had quite a few that he's had to clarify. Nobody's perfect, but spare me the sanctimonious parachuting in with your corrective record, hall monitor. Okay, do your own homework before you try before you try to lecture those of us who have been following this in its every detail. Because actually some of us really do care about getting the facts right. And hall monitor, some of us actually do have to worry about this kind of thing happening to us or our loved ones. So we're really invested in making sure we get every fact correct. Unlike you where you sit there with your tweets and think that you can weigh in and correct people like this show or Ashley Banfield or anybody else who is trying in good faith to get the facts of this case right. I've had it.

We sent Phil Holloway to Houston because we wanted someone of our own. I'm sorry, to to Tucson. Um, we wanted someone of our own there to be researching the facts and making sure that we're getting things right. Phil used to be a cop. Did you know that? And now, of course, he's a lawyer, very smart lawyer, and also a host at MK True Crime. So, he is neck deep in true crime cases. He understands reporting and he's been on the opposite side as a member of law enforcement as well and he has been on the ground reporting now uh for about a day there in Tucson. Phil, welcome. Thank you.

Great to see you. So, what are your first thoughts having been on the ground for about 24 hours? Look, one thing that a good lawyer uh will do, whether you're a prosecutor, defense attorney, if you're a criminal lawyer and you're involved in a criminal case, one thing that's important to do is to go to the scene of the crime so that you can uh on the ground, right? You want to see what the crime scene looks like. You want to see um the terrain. You want to just visualize how things are located with respect to to other things that may be of interest. in this case, the mom's house versus Annie's house. So, the one thing that I first noticed when I got out there, besides the giant scrum of obviously media personnel that have every inch of this very narrow roadway just kind of jam-packed with their vehicles and their equipment. Um, I noticed that the terrain uh at the house and around the house uh would be

something that would be very difficult to conduct an investigation in. Um, you've got, as you see there on the screen, you've got a lot of the, uh, cacti. You've got shrubs that are, you know, two or three, four foot high. Lots of things that would block the view of the house, the front door, uh, you know, from the roadway. And vice versa, if you have the Ring camera, it's not, it might see who's standing at the door, but it's not going to see what's out past all the that shrubbery. Um, and so I I sort of took a walk around and then I looked at the area across the street from the house and I saw more of this um, you know, rocky desert, traditional desert type terrain. And it's just it would be a very difficult, challenging place to do an investigation if your investigation turns on trace evidence. And now we know that some of this does turn on trace evidence. Uh, I've also talked to some

locals here who parathetically tell me, you know, they don't have a lot of trust in the sheriff. Um, they they tell me that the the morale in the department is not so great, that he has uh leadership problems uh within the department. And you start putting all this together and it tracks with the things that you just went through with respect to the sheriff. You know, I on the way out here yesterday on the plane, um I sent an email to to the sheriff's office, uh asking, "Hey, look, um is there anybody there that would be willing to talk with me for five or 10 minutes because I would I was interested in maybe doing an interview and showing the cop's perspective, right? Let them tell me and tell our audience what it's like from the perspective of law enforcement working a case like this where you're, you know, long on uh basically a mystery and short on leads and and you're up all night every night working um tirelessly

trying to solve a case, right? That takes a toll on officers. It takes a toll on their families. It's just very very grueling and hard work. So, I was looking to see if I could get someone to talk about that side of things. I wasn't like looking for additional um you know, information about the case itself. And you know, I got a very short response back saying the sheriff is the spokesman for this investigation and he is not granting any additional one-on-one interviews. So, I guess he's just completely checked out, which makes sense. I mean, he's he's given some press conferences, Megan, that uh quite frankly were left me scratching my head.

And he released the scene way way too early. You know, you had these blood droplets that were in the driveway. Uh and we had people um that were able to go and access those within a day or so after this crime occurred.

Lots of things about this just leave me scratching my head. Yeah, they they they compromised it now because if and when they ever make an arrest, that person's going to say anything that use is used against him from the crime scene, they're going to say it's compromised. What do you mean? They they had members of the media traping through the front porch, the inside the or the garage, the outside that how can you trust anything there? There was no chain of custody on the house or the area around it. Um so this will wind up being a problem for them if they ever find a perpetrator. Um, Phil, the the deadline for the ransom has passed officially and um it does not appear they paid it according to TMZ who has the Bitcoin address and to me it now seems clear from Savannah's latest message that

all involved have concluded this was a hoax. If she didn't think it was a hoax, she would have paid the 6 million. Um, so is that is that your understanding or your impression? It's it's my impression now and it's been my impression um from the beginning, but since I've been here, it's sort of solidified that in my mind. I think that somebody was obviously trying to extort her or uh basically con her out of some money, right? Uh but I don't think it's the people who took uh and probably killed Nancy Gthrie. And can I talk more about the the blood droplets that you were just mentioning?

You know, um there's video of that. We've seen it. I think Brian Inon was out there and he took some video showing those blood droplets and I've been talking with others here on the ground and getting a better feel for what that looked like. And you know, in some of the video that I took that I think maybe you just showed showed that the house there's it's like this semic-ircular rock driveway and in the in sort of in the middle between the entrances and exits on that semic-ircular drive there's this um lots of cacti and shrubbery and other things like I mentioned. And so what you what you can sort of surmise happened is that there was some struggle in that house that caused her to bleed. Now, it wasn't the kind of bleeding that you would expect if say you cut an artery. It was little droplets more like think about if you have ever had a bloody nose and you, you know, have blood that's just gravity is

taking it straight down and it's, you know, dropping droplets on the ground. Okay? So, it wasn't heavy bleeding. And we also know that there's some DNA inside the house. I mean, it could be touch DNA from the cells left behind by whoever, or it could also be blood in there. It stands to reason that if you had blood droplets on the doorway or the uh doorstep, then you might have blood droplets just inside the door and then those droplets come out uh to the top of the semic-ircular driveway and then they end. And so what that suggests to me is that somebody put her in a vehicle and drove her away from there. And so if that's the case, why didn't we have the search plane up that the sheriff's office had within hours? Okay. Um we know the border patrol came in and had some dogs out there, but we don't know much about how the dogs were used and in what capacity uh to try to track some scent.

And you know, it the whole thing just points to a scenario where maybe it was a burglary gone bad. And this is not necessarily inconsistent with Ashley Banfield's reporting either. um something happened with somebody and it was some type of an altercation. Um family members can commit burglaries, too. So, I'm not saying that Ashley Banfield is mistaken about any of that. It's consistent. Or it could be just a random stranger going in. But somebody went in there and it was a burglary. She was assaulted. And I think that they took her out of there so that they didn't leave her behind because there's lots of evidence on a body whether it's alive or breathing that can identify the attacker. So there could be I I've seen cases where someone was shot in the head with a small caliber uh rifle or something and the bullet never leaves and it and it just makes very small blood droplets. Okay. And sometimes the

body, I've seen one case where the head was taken to uh so that the killer could, you know, prevent law enforcement from finding that bullet and matching it back to some gun. So there's all sorts of reasons that come to my mind why a killer or an attacker would remove Nancy from that home. Uh and none of them are good. uh this whole thing feels like it's um turned into uh I don't want to say a stale case and hopefully with this new information this afternoon maybe maybe we will get some kind of breakthrough but the general feeling around here up until that announcement that you just made uh about the maybe a picture of a of an of interest or something like that until that it's just the feeling here is that this is a stale case and that law enforcement is just at the end of the end of their investigative leads right now.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Exclusive Reporting Outside Nancy Guthrie's Home Reveals CHALLENGES For Police, with Phil Holloway"?

Megyn Kelly (Guest), Phil Holloway (Guest), Chris Nanos (Guest), Michael Rosenda (Guest).

What is "Exclusive Reporting Outside Nancy Guthrie's Home Reveals CHALLENGES For Police, with Phil Holloway" about?

The investigation into Nancy Guthrie's mysterious disappearance reveals discrepancies in the initial reports regarding her attendance at church, highlighting that she had not attended in-person services since the pandemic but was participating in a live stream from her daughter’s church in New York. Following her absence from the live stream, a concerned friend contacted the family, initiating…

What is mentioned in this Megyn Kelly episode?

9 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Nancy Guthrie, Chris Nanos, Phil Holloway, Savannah Guthrie, Daily Mail, Annie Duke. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Exclusive Reporting Outside Nancy Guthrie's Home Reveals CHALLENGES For Police, with Phil Holloway"?

The episode runs 16 min; the transcript is about 2,746 words in 23 timestamped sections.

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