Left Spins False ICE Shooting Narrative, Conan Slams Political Comics, w/ Jesse Kelly & Link Lauren

What this episode is about

The discussion centers on perceived leftist ideologies regarding law enforcement, particularly in the context of a recent shooting involving a police officer in Minneapolis, where the host criticizes the media's portrayal of the incident and calls for stronger federal law enforcement presence. Additionally, the conversation touches on political dynamics within the Republican Party, highlighting JD Vance's rising popularity among voters, and addresses a controversial incident in California related to gender identity in public restrooms.

Key takeaways

• When leftist madness meets federal law enforcement, community chaos becomes the new normal; welcome to Portland's playground.
• JD Vance's rise within the GOP may seem meteoric, but the real shocker? Polls show he’s already outpacing Trump.
• An endless cycle of political accusations makes it clear: in the partisan arena, everyone's a potential 'Hitler on steroids.'
• Who needs horror movies when you have viral videos of public antics masquerading as social justice in women's bathrooms?
• Cutting your phone bill in half is easy—unlike convincing a leftist that obstructing ICE isn't just childish mischief.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Megyn Kelly (Guest) · 1 h 14 min speaking
• Jesse Kelly (Guest) · 37 min speaking
• Link Lauren (Host) · 12 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 15:00: Donald Trump, Leah Thomas
2. 30:00 – 45:00: Donald Trump, Larry Kramer, Relle Bilal
3. 45:00 – 1:00:00: Donald Trump, Irene Fernando
4. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00: Grace Hudson
5. 1:15:00 – 1:30:00: Somali, Donald Trump, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant, Grace Hudson
6. 1:30:00 – 1:45:00: Donald Trump
7. 1:45:00 – 2:00:00: Delta Force, CBS Evening News, Doug Mhof, Tony Dokapool

Notable quotes from "Left Spins False ICE Shooting Narrative, Conan Slams Political Comics, w/ Jesse Kelly & Link Lauren"

• They get off in dressing like women and then parading around in front of women which is exactly what Leah Thomas was in my well-informed opinion. And the women are supposed to…

  about Leah Thomas · at 2:48

• Ask or at least think about the Democrat in your life and think if they believe that Donald Trump, just as an example called Nazis at Charlottesville very fine people. Think…

  about Donald Trump · at 12:33

• Got to show you the police chief and then get your reaction. Her name is Relle Bilal and she's the Philadelphia sheriff.

  about Relle Bilal · at 40:29

• Wearing a mask to commit crime. I'm thank God for our district attorney Larry Kramer, who say he's going to lock them up. And I'm saying now, we are not going to whisk you away…

  about Larry Kramer · at 41:21

• For some reason just caught on. It is in Planet Fitness in California and a woman named Grace Hudson who goes to Planet Fitness walked into the women's locker room and what she…

  about Grace Hudson · at 1:00:27

• He's probably happy that this happened because it's moving the news cycle off of his massive Somali fraud scandal.

  about Somali · at 1:15:47

• And arresting illegals. And just yesterday, we got an announcement from Secretary Bessant saying if you are on public assistance, you can no longer wire money out of the United…

  about Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant · at 1:21:00

• Up, okay? And man up too, okay? We need more alphas in this world. Like I want Delta Force looking guys. I want those guys who went and snatched up Maduro. I don't want cryb…

  about Delta Force · at 1:55:26

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Donald Trump — Person · 11 mentions · first at 12:37
• Grace Hudson — Person · 4 mentions · first at 1:00:33
• Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant — Person · 2 mentions · first at 1:21:05
• Leah Thomas — Person · 1 mention · first at 2:53
• Relle Bilal — Person · 1 mention · first at 40:32
• Larry Kramer — Person · 1 mention · first at 41:27
• Irene Fernando — Person · 1 mention · first at 45:19
  Commissioner for Minneapolis for Henipin County, Minnesota where this thing went down. Her name is Irene Fernando. You don't have to listen to much. It happened this morning to figure out what's going on with this lady. Watch.
• Tony Dokapool — Person · 1 mention · first at 1:56:13
  Just not crying all the time on camera as a male anchor. I would take that too. That we talked about Tony Dokapool yesterday, the weird crying in a clip that he put out. He put…
• Doug Mhof — Person · 1 mention · first at 1:59:10
  Okay. Doug Mhof. So, it's like if you ever want to be taken seriously, you cannot cry on camera. I don't need to see grown men crying. maybe after sex with a cigarette, but no, I.

Companies & orgs

• ICE — Company · 2 mentions
• CBS Evening News — Company · 1 mention · first at 1:58:14
  Because, he's, telegraphing, Oprah., He's Topra. That's that's what he's trying to do with the CBS Evening News. And like Oprah's show now these days, it will fail. I like this…

Concepts & topics

• Somali — Concept · 4 mentions · first at 1:15:51
• Delta Force — Concept · 3 mentions · first at 1:55:30

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly show. Oh my god there's so much happening. These leftists have lost their ever loving minds. They're woke. They're giving pronouns. They're talking about how he this cop should have discerned that the tires were turned a certain way and therefore the car wasn't going to actually run over him even though it had hit him in Minneapolis. I mean truly it's insane and it's spreading and we have so many examples of leftist madness now in response to ICE and in Portland Customs and Border Patrol. it like all we can do is flood the field in my view with more officers and really make clear to these people that they have no right to interfere with federal law enforcement trying to clean out their neighborhoods of murderers and child molesters. Get out of the way.

0:57 Thank God we have this administration in power right now. Um, Trump has been openly on the side of the officer under fire in Minneapolis and and JD Vance like underdog comes out to just boom boom boom take on the media at the White House press briefing room and it was a breath of fresh air and a thing of beauty. Now, of course, you're getting the he's even worse than Trump from the the Dispatch people like Tim Miller. He's worse. He's horrible. They're getting ready because they've seen the poll showing that JD Vance is, I think at 53% right now amongst Republicans on who's the most likely to be the Republican nominee in 28. No one's even close. So, of course, it's never too early to lay the seeds of he's even worse. He's he's more of a fascist. He's he's Hitler on steroids. Um, and then we will get to a shocking disgusting video out of California involving a man pretending to be a woman

2:02 in a woman's bathroom jerking off. You can see it in the shadow down below that this wonderful woman decided she would record to prove what was going on in there. And then the confrontation happens afterward with the gym employees, the young woman who recorded it, the in the stall, and the woman's boyfriend who is a hero. Um, I'm sorry, but this is what we've been saying would happen all along. They're not in there because they're gender confused. They're in there acting out a sexual fantasy, which comes from their autogyophilia where they get off in dressing like women and then parading around in front of women which is exactly what Leah Thomas was in my well-informed opinion. And the women are supposed to be a part of their sexual fantasies. The video is infuriating. It is R-rated. We're only going there's you don't actually see a body part, but you see the shadow. Um we will show you an appropriate amount so

3:14 you can make up your own mind and then move on from the video, but we'll show you the confrontation after uh in just a bit. There's a lot to get to. Um in just a bit we'll be joined by spot-on host Link Lauren, but we're going to start today with fire Jesse Kelly. He's fire. host of the Jesse Kelly show on the Megan Kelly channel now SiriusXM11. He's part of our MK channel lineup which I'm totally honored to say and he's host of I'm Right. And you can find him on YouTube as well. Jesse Kelly. Don't miss a moment. Subscribe to this show on YouTube and follow me on Insta Facebook, and X. If your credit card balance is freaking you out after all the holiday spending, I mean, right? I have something that can save you money right now. You could cut your cell phone bill in half by switching to Pure Talk's saver plan. Just $20 a month for unlimited talk, text, and three gigs of high-speed data on Pure Talk superfast

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4:50 Jesse, so good to have you here. You of all people need to be here today. Um the leftist madness is a bit much. I I'm There's so many places I could start. I could start, but here's I'm going to start on this video, which I found so infuriating. Um, Deb, did you say this is from Portland? This one, the top 11 it's from Oregon. We don't know if it's Portland, but obviously there's chaos in Portland from these anti-ICE protesters. This is a video for the listening audience of a leftist woman in her SUV trying to box in an ICE agent who's trying to pull out of his parking spot to go chase bad guys. And she and her band of leftists make it as difficult as they humanly possibly can for this guy to go do his job. And she narrates it.

5:36 Watch this 11. See her blocking him in. We can play. My car is bigger than yours.

5:51 We, can, play. Ice., It's, ice., Please, help, me, record. Get behind them if you have a car. If you have a car, please pull behind them. It's Ice. Can you pull behind them? It's ICE. They're trying to kidnap people. Please pull behind them. Please pull behind them and park. Please

6:24 and, somebody park, behind, them., Can, you, put, your, car behind them, please? It's ice.

6:33 Put, your, car, there., THEY'RE, GOING, TO MOVE. HURRY, PLEASE. HURRY., Park, your, car, sideways,, please.

6:41 The, ice, a's, trying, to, get, out., He's backing up, doing little three-point turns, trying to curve out of this.

6:47 He, gets, out, but, gets, blocked, again. She, speeds, up, behind, him, to, block, his the rear of his

6:56 dumb, You're, not, going, anywhere. We have them blocked in, but we need more cars.

7:05 Look, at, these, losers. Two., Three. two of them in the car. Unfortunately,, we, don't, get, to, see, the end of it, Jesse, which I seriously hope involves some pepper spray and some handcuffs. Um, but this is what they're doing to our ICE agents who have families who are out there literally arresting child molesters and taking them off the streets. and this this woman's calling them dumb and mocking them and taunting them and encouraging her fellow leftists to prevent them from arresting the bad guys in her community. What do you make of what's happening right now?

7:44 There's, there's, just, so, much, to, get into, Megan, when it comes to all this. First, we have to set something aside and I hate to even do that because you and I could sit and riff on this for hours, and I know it's something you talk about. Let's set aside the paid and organized portion of this. We do have to understand what a large percentage of communist street activism in this country is paid for and organized. It's not organic. It's not always, you know some some uh just naive soccer mom coming out and who watches too much television., So, many, of these, people,, at least the ring leaders are paid and organized. They organize these acts of resistance online. Billionaires, foreign and domestic, pay for these things.

8:25 That's why they show up with freshly printed signs right away. So let we have to kind of set that part aside. Let's deal with the people who are actually genu genuine. And maybe that walking ad from anti-depressants is genuine. Let's just assume for a moment she is. I actually and people are going to find this funny because I'm known to be such a jerk. I actually feel a lot of sympathy for her and and I feel sympathy for that 37year-old street animal who just got killed by ICE and and of course her her wife and everything. And the reason I feel sympathy is because so many of these people are just simply stupid or they're drugaddicted or or come come from broken homes. Broken people generally is what you will find in these street protests. You don't find happy, wellto-do people from solid families, good two parent homes, you know, go to church on Sunday. You don't generally find those kinds of people. If

9:19 you sift through the rubble that is a communist street animal protest, it's the drags of society every time. It's every scumbag and criminal and nut job you can find. And I I actually find what Democrats in the media do to these people to their minds. I find it to be extremely extremely evil on par with uh picking on the special needs kid in high school. Everyone had some evil scumbag in their school who would do something like that. I'm not even trying to be funny. Everybody knows there was one kid who was so cruel he would do it and he would think it was funny. That's what Democrats do to their base all the time with the relentless loop of lies you see on CNN and everything else. Nazi Gestapo. Nazi Gustavo. Then you see that stuff, Megan. Everybody watching listening right now sees that stuff hears that stuff. They roll their eyes.

10:07 but to somebody who's broken and drugaddicted and lost. They hear these things and they believe them and they get themselves spun up to the point that you'll drop your kid off at daycare and then go out and try to run over an ice age agent, and, oh, now, I'm, dead, and, I won't ever see the age of 38. I find it to be incredibly sad and I find it to be incredibly evil. The Democrat party is the party of evil in this country. As much as I despise Republicans most of the time, they really are the party of Satan. The Democrats are drives me insane. Gosh you're not you're not wrong. I saw somebody saying the other day about the woman, the 37year-old woman um Renee who tried to run over that cop obviously. Um that she might actually not have known that ICE is arresting murderers and child molesters. She um she genuinely might not have known that. She might have thought that they were there as

10:57 some sort of militia meant to just arrest American citizens and deport them. Because if you get your news from NPR, for example, or MS Now, that's probably how you'd walk away looking at this. I mean, just today there's an example of the New York Times headline and the Washington Post headline on this case, you know, of of this woman being shot to death, this 37year-old, and it's it paints it all in the most sympathetic um misleading way. Hold on. Is this I want to find the actual headline. I think we have it made. They try to suggest that this is just this, you know, sweet lady. Here it is. New York Times by Kenneth Vogel.

11:36 A New York Times analysis of footage from three camera angles shows that the motorist was driving away from, not toward a federal officer when he opened fire. And then the Washington Post headline, ICE agent was not in the vehicle's path when he fired at driver. Video shows. Oh, well, shockingly, my eyes show something very different Jesse. But if you are one of these leftists who relies on Wo or New York Times for your news, you have a very different impression of what went down that day.

12:11 That's, what's, so, frustrating, about, what you just said, what we just talked about, Megan, is uh think about the Democrat in your life. Everybody watching and listening has a Democrat somewhere in their life. I always refer to them as a liberal aunt Peggy, but who knows? Maybe your brother, maybe who knows? And think about this. Think about this. I have a I have an aunt Peggy, but she's not that liberal.

12:30 Sorry,, Peggy., But, but, think, about, this. Ask or at least think about the Democrat in your life and think if they believe that Donald Trump, just as an example called Nazis at Charlottesville very fine people. Think about that. Think about the Democrat in your life and think if they believe that Donald Trump told people to inject themselves with bleach. Now, the reason I brought up those two things is both of those things are available on video. what he actually said. The Democrat line, the communist line is an outright lie. And it's not like you have to take Megan's opinion on it or my opinion on it. You can pick up your phone. Everyone's holding one right now. You may be listening to this show on your phone and you can watch what he actually said. Easily verifiable on video. And yet the vast majority of Democrats in this country because they live in a world of makebelieve that is constructed for them by the communist

13:19 elites in this country, they believe something that is an outright verifiable lie, not subject to opinion whatsoever. We are dealing with people who are by all accounts insane. And and I'm not saying that to just be insulting although I'm totally fine to insult these animals. I'm saying that because we have to understand what we're dealing with. If if I covered myself with peanut buttered with Yeah, you can't. If if I if I got naked and covered myself with peanut butter and attached wings to my back and went up to the ceiling of this of of this roof here and tried to jump off, you would call me crazy because I believe I believe I can fly and I cannot fly. It's verifiable I can't fly, but I believe all the way I can fly. You would look at me and you would say, "This person is insane. He probably can't be reasoned with. He needs professional help. I need to keep my distance."

14:10 whatever. But you would not say, "I just need to have a conversation with him." Well, that has become our political discourse in this country because the people on the left reside in a world of complete lies that is reinforced day after day after day by Democrats and the communists in the media. And we're at a place where just normal people, you don't have to be some hardcore right-winger like me, normal people are frustrated because you talk to these people and it's like you're talking to a rabid Wolverine or something like that.

14:38 They don't even they're not even human beings anymore and their eyes are bucked out. I don't know how we deal with it Megan. But we have to understand that's what we're dealing with.

14:46 It's, it, I, was, just, telling, the, audience I think yesterday the day before that my therapist, God love him. Um he always says stay away from crazy

14:54 which, is, a, very, funny, line, from, a, from, a therapist, but it it's true. Stay away from from crazy. And like the problem for these ICE officers is they have no choice but to get right up in the face of crazy. you know, this the these officers didn't want to have to deal with this woman who ran over. They tried to this officer and did hit him uh notwithstanding what you read in the Washington Post and the New York Times. They didn't want to deal with her, but she came into this area. She parked her car perpendicular to the oncoming traffic of the road and then it is their job to remove her so that others are safe and so that they can do their job which is to pass. That's how this confrontation unfolded. And while others kept telling us that that's not true she was just there as a legal observer which is a lie. She's a freaking she was a wannabe poet. And I'm sorry, but not a good one. Um, she was a legal observer.

15:48 She was there as a paid agitator, or not paid. She might have been paid for all I know, but she was there as an agitator to be the lead, we were told, by an eyewitness, in antagonizing ICE. And now we know that because on CNN last night they dropped a video of the preceding moments before the tape that we've all now seen where she accelerates into the officer and he shoots her. Now, we've seen what she did in the moments before. First,, I'm, going to, I'm, going, to, descri I'm, going to, let, you, hear, how, Anderson Cooper describes it. And it's truly like, gee, who knows who knows what we're seeing. No, we know exactly what we're seeing because we can see with our eyes and we all have seen now the eyewitness accounts that she was parked perpendicular to oncoming traffic.

16:28 Anderson. This is the video proof of it unfolding before your eyes. Just tell the audience the truth. Here he is.

16:35 CNN, has, obtained, some, new, video., Again, it's grainy and distant, but it shows four full minutes leading up to the shooting. It shows Renee Goods, Maroon Honda Pilot, entering uh from the right there. Then 20 seconds later, someone gets out on the passenger side. We don't know who or why this person leaves the car. We then see her turn and pull perpendicular across the street, seeming to to block the way, but as you see here, leaving room for vehicles to pass by her on either side. Finally, there is this new angle of the federal officer who shot her. He arrives. Another federal SUV pulls up. As the ICE officer briefly goes back to his car, then he returns and with another agent grabbing at her door, she starts to move forward.

17:21 Again, it's hard to see. that may reveal it says nothing about why Renee Good was where she was or what she was doing there.

17:31 What isn't says, nothing. Is, Isn't, it, so, brilliant, what, they, do though, Megan? Because when it's all on video like these these scumbag liars like Anderson Anderson Cooper, it's brilliant, isn't it? Because it's all on video and even your liberal aunt Peggy as she's done, you know, sniffing her anti-depressants, even she can watch video, right? So he can't come out and say she wasn't there. He can't come out and say she was just cruising along and I pulled up beside her and gunned her down. That doesn't work, right? So what do you have to do if you're in the media? If you're a communist and you're trying to protect the narrative at all times, protect the revolution, you just have to give people a little bit of an offramp. So instead of coming on the news and saying exactly what she was doing,

18:14 of, course,, well,, I, mean,, we're, really not sure. We we don't know who's getting out. I mean, she might have been trying to parallel park. She is a woman after all. I they have to act completely lost. Of course, if this was if this was you if this was me, if this was anybody else listening who's a normal human being they would have all the facts. They'd be crucifying you for every hour on the hour on CNN. They would drill down on everything. But of course, because it's an apparatic who got caught doing horrible things like they always do. It always, well, I mean, we're confused.

18:44 The facts are still coming in. I I mean the the video was grainy. We don't That's exactly what they do. really. It's evil and it's brilliant to be honest.

18:51 Who, could, know? Yeah., Who, knows? There, there's, no, way, there, there., It says nothing about Renee Good where she was or what she planned to do except for the fact that she was perpendicular to oncoming traffic. But he points out cars could go around the front or the back. I guess she needed a bigger truck is what Anderson is pointing like her her SUV wasn't quite big enough to to block both lanes of oncoming traffic, but she sure did try. This is such gaslighting. And here's more of it. Rachel Matto Satri.

19:22 I, mean, the, the, key, is, nonviolent, protest and this woman who got shot in Minneapolis, this mom, you know, she was she was not doing anything violent. Had had she wanted had she been trying to drive into those federal agents. She would have steered toward them, not away from them.

19:38 Thank, goodness, we, have, a, video, of, what happened because otherwise might have gone unquestioned.

19:46 Oh, my, god,, Jesse., Just, a, wife, and, a poet, right? Just a wife and a poet on her way to softball practice. I I She must have slipped on the ice. It's it it's terrible what they do. And you know what's really horrible about that is Rachel Matto with her rhetoric. She look her and Jimmy Kimmel. They're the exact type of elite communists we talked about at the beginning of this show. They will lie to their audiences every single night without end until that person that broken person at home, whoever they are, finally gets up and decides to go do something about it. And that person will go off and lose their lives. And Rachel Matto and Jimmy Kimmel, when they do it, won't lose a minute of sleep over the fact that they're the ones who drive that stuff. I am so careful with my audience as I know you are to implore them never to do anything to get yourself arrested, get yourself hurt get yourself killed because I dread the

20:41 day I pray the day never comes, Megan where I get some email of my husband heard you say this and he went out and got killed arrested. I I I think I would retire that day. I would be devastated if I thought the words I spoke hurt a normal person out there. But these people don't they don't have any hesitation at all. No remorse. No nothing. No, no sorrow for the six-year-old boy who now has one of his mothers gone. Nothing at all. They don't feel anything. Just soulless.

21:11 Mhm., I, It's, incredible, to, me, that, they don't that they'll just lie right to their audience's faces and jin up their anger with absolutely no care for who gets hurt, whether it's their audience or a federal law enforcement officer. And now the new narrative has turned into kind of what you heard Rachel Madowl say there, which is she she had turned her wheels, Jesse. You see, she backed up. They they were telling her "Get out of the car. Get out of the car right now." And she wasn't she wasn't complying. She was resisting and then she tried to flee. She backed up and then she turned her car and hit a cop.

21:46 She did hit him. And by the way, his father has now confirmed that on the record with the Daily Mail, the officer's father, um, he was hit. And now the new narrative has been, well she backed up, but then when she pulled forward, you can see that the wheels of her car for a split second were turned to the left and the cop was more to the right. You see? So, she wasn't intending to run him down, which, by the way, she would have had he not shot her. He He was hit. We see it on camera. But that's the new line. And yesterday on this program, we showed the audience video.

22:19 It's disturbing, but we're going to show it again of a cop in Baltimore who chased this bad guy uh into a culde-sac in Baltimore, Maryland, and told him to get out of the car. He pretended he was getting out of the car. She thought she had him and he killed her. He ran over her with his car. Forgive me, this is the videotape. I'm showing it to you for a reason. As the jeep continued to advance officer Caprio got off one shot.

22:46 WJZ, won't, show, the, rest,, but, a, somber jury saw and heard Amy Caprio dying from massive crushing injuries. Now, I want I want the listening audience to know this cop was on the side of the car, same as the officer involved in the conflict in Minneapolis. She was on like the front side headlight of it. He's coming at her from the side. He backs up and he rams her. It happens in a second. A second. He goes from stopped to she's dead with, as you heard them describe, massive injuries. She got one shot off and she died. She died Jesse. And now it was U. Will Chamberlain, I think, of the article 3 project online who was saying to the people like Rachel Matto who are focused on the direction of this Renee Goods front tires.

23:40 um is pointing to this video saying, you know, m maybe she didn't get a look at the tire. She should have she should have looked at those tires before she you know, made her decision. She would have seen them pointed at her instead. Like the absurdity of these leftist Rachel, Matto, who, makes, $30 million a year for doing one hour a week in her multi-million dollar mansions that we've shown because she puts them on the air. She wants us to see what a luxur luxurious life she lives. is going to sit there and secondguess this ICE officer who lives, we now know, on the outskirts of Minneapolis in a working-class neighborhood. He's married. He's got kids of his own. He's working as a cop. Jesse, he doesn't make $30 million a year for one damn hour.

24:24 And she's going to mislead them about he should have seen the way the tires were in between her backing up to Ran him and hitting him.

24:33 Yeah,, that's, what, they, do., I, mean,, it's a vehicle. It's the the people say "Well, she didn't have a weapon. And she had the deadliest weapon of any of them. She had a deadlier weapon than anybody in law enforcement had there. She had a 4,000B car. As you mentioned, it happens in an instant. And everybody with even the slightest bit of legal knowledge or law enforcement knowledge knows that you cannot take chances when it's a car. This is exactly why cops will often times do seemingly very dangerous things to get one of these speeding cars trying to get away from the cops off the road. They're not doing that because they watch Dukes of Hazard too much when they were kids. They're doing that because that 4,000 lb car coming down the highway can kill anybody, lots of people, in an instant. I know maybe they didn't educate their communist street animals that that's a deadly weapon because they want them to go out and do

25:24 terrible things, but it is a deadly weapon. And when you're told to stop stop. And when you're told to get out get out. And you don't get to hide behind. I was panicking. I turn my tires a different way. If you don't comply you are going to die. That is how it works. That's how it's always worked. And and for the safety of everybody including the civilians, that's how it has to work in a society. But of course the Rachel know that

25:52 Steven, Colbear, disagrees, with, you entirely. This is how he would spin the message you just offered. Listen here.

25:58 So,, the, message, from, this, administration is clear. Only they determine the truth. And when their forces come to your city obey or die. And if you die, you clearly didn't obey.

26:12 Okay. Except, it's um, it's, a, little, out, of, context. It's, all, on, camera., This, is, You, know what's something that's funny? I mean, I guess it's not funny, but it is in a way funny to me is how many years how many years, Megan, did you hear the left talk about, well, we want everything recorded. We want body cameras. We want this. that this was a big activism thing on the left. Because of course once the cameras come out, once everyone gets a cell phone camera and everyone has a body camera, then of course that's going to prove that these cops are a bunch of violent nutballs and racist. Of course we always have to throw in racist, very very racist. They do a lot of very racist things. And since we've had everyone with a cell phone camera and body cameras, what we've discovered is no, actually, we have a bunch of very violent, horrible people in this country who do horrible things. And cops are now

26:56 routinely put in an impossible situation. And in a blue hell hole like Minneapolis, thank God this guy was a federal officer doing federal things because you and I both know in a place like Minnesota, he would be spending most of the rest of his life in prison just like Derek Schovin is no matter what he did.

27:14 Oh,, they, would, Derek, Schovin, him. Yeah. In, 60, seconds., Yes., 100%., So, the, the recklessness of these people, right? Like this they they truly are painting this Renee Good like she was a saint. It's I listened to NPR up first. this morning. It it I can't it normally I cuts and I play the audience what this crazy leftist podcast does just because it's entertaining and it's an example of I couldn't even do it. I couldn't go back over it. Literally everything they said was misleading. They didn't even offer the fact that she rammed the officer. It was completely like oh this wonderful woman. They literally told us what was on her Pinterest page. Jesse they were getting into what's on her Pinterest page. nothing about how she had bet parked perpendicular, she was blocking the traffic, she resisted arrest, she accelerated into an officer.

28:03 Nothing. Okay. But knowing that this woman and because this is the one thing the left knows, this woman who was killed, Renee Good, has a six-year-old child. She has three children. She has one of the youngest of whom is six. And she left him that day to go do this. And the left would like you to believe this is just sweet mama who left her boy at the daycare to just go about her business omitting the agitation entirely., And, so, but, so, but, but, at least the left does know that this woman had a six-year-old child

28:34 and, that, that, child's, been, left, an orphan because the father is no longer in the picture. I think the father died a couple years ago. Um what does this woman do? I think this is Minneapolis but I'm not sure. We haven't been able to totally confirm that this woman decides to tell this lady to hold her beer and brings brings her six-year-old to an ICE arrest and leaves him in a car, which we know is dangerous based on what we saw just this week. Never mind the 100 rammings we've seen usually illegals who are getting arrested by ICE try to unleash on them. In this case, it was a Karen. But look at this side 11B.

29:14 Back, up. I'm, I'm, far, enough, away., I'm, not influencing anything. I, don't, I, need, you, to, get, in, your

29:19 No,, I, won't. Ma'am,, I, need, you, to, leave. It's, my, right, to, be, here. Back, up., I, will, not, car., You, were, too close right now. You were interfering. Federal investigation.

29:27 You're, going, to, get, out, of, my, face., I'm a public. No, I won't. Tell me why. I'm far enough away from your investigation.

29:33 Step, beyond, our, cars. Don't, touch, me,, please. Where's, your, cars? Right, here., Where's, your, car?

29:38 Oh,, that's, great., Go, all, the, way. Sure., I'll, be, on, your, cars., 20, ft. Right.

29:42 You, see, that, white, white, car? I, have, a, six-year-old, right, here., I, have a six-year-old right here in my car. Child in the car.

29:48 Child in danger. Getting, Get, your, child, off, of, the, scene. This is an active police scene. This is all on camera right now, too. Right here.

29:56 Yes., I'm, wonderful., I'm, very, glad, for it. Get, your, child, out, of, here., You're, right here. I'm happy right here.

30:02 Ma'am,, listen, to, me., You, have, the, right to videape. Okay. I, do., Thank, you,, sir.

30:04 Listen, to, me, right, now. I'm, going, to, listen. But, we, have, someone, that's, being detained right here. Okay.

30:08 Mhm., You, have, a, child. Tell, me, where, you, need, me, to, go, exactly. I, need, you, to, stay., Do, me, a, favor., No car seat. Okay. Do me a favor. You can videotape all you like, but you have to stay. You cannot come past that driveway. Okay.

30:19 I'll, be, right, back., Thank, you. Thank, you., Stay, at, your, car,, though. Okay. More than welcome to videotape. But do me a favor. By state law, we're policemen, too. That child is supposed to be in a booster seat. He's not of age. So, make sure you put him in a booster seat because I'd hate to give you a ticket.

30:32 You, can, give, me, a, ticket., I'd, love, it. like how do you help that person?

30:39 Megan,, I, I, was, uh, reading, a, book, some years ago about East Germany when East Germany obviously communist East Germany and I knew a bit about it before I started reading the book, but just kind of like highlights. One of the things that blew me away about East Germany and it turns out this the same thing took place in the Soviet Union and China and everywhere else was that husbands would turn in their wives routinely. Wives would turn in their husbands. Uh children would turn in their parents. Parents would turn in their children.

31:12 Moms would walk into the Stazzy. Hey, uh I heard my daughter, she's criticizing the government. Just one I thought you guys should know about it. Stazzy shows up, takes daughter away in the middle of the night. And I remember thinking because I mean my boys, I have two sons. I I would die for them a thousand times over. I'd kill for them a million times over. I would and do anything for my boys. I couldn't relate. I still can't understand it. But the truth is there is something about that sick demonic religion of communism that it supersedes family immediately for these people.

31:44 It's not just that that woman would bring her six-year-old to a potential violent encounter. She doesn't even know who they're arresting. It could be a serial killer, a rapist, somebody who could come screaming out of that house and hop in her car and take her car away. But none of that would even occur to her. And you know what's weird? None of that would even bother her because she's there. She's now the true mother of the revolution. The child the child just needs to be a tool of the revolution. That's probably why she brought a ball. He's a nice shield.

32:11 He'll help the revolution. And I can't understand that way of thinking, Megan. I know how much you love love your kid. I I I know you probably can't understand that. I I don't want to understand it but I know that's how it is for these people. The revolution is their everything and everything else including their children, is secondary. Just a tool for the revolution.

32:33 This, is, such, a, good, point., You, You really brought that home. I You're right. Like, who that's got a six-year-old, not in his proper car seat, by the way, that sees law enforcement arresting someone who obviously is potentially a bad guy. You don't know what this is. You don't know why ICE is there. What did he do? Does he have a machine gun? You know, is he going to open fire? You have no idea. Is he going to ram somebody? Maybe your vehicle, too. Pulls over to the scene with their child in the car. I I'll tell you, one time in the past two years, we were walking in the Miami airport, my family, on on the way home from someplace, and an arrest went down. They were arresting somebody outside of like the the bathroom facility, and you know just in the airport as you walk like to your gate. And it was a big to-do. And of course, everybody, including my kids was like, "Whoa, what's happening there?

33:26 What's happen?" And immediat I was like "Let's go move. Get Let's get out of here." Any sane parent recognizes when you've got a criminal and the police you have a dangerous situation, and at a minimum, get your kids the hell away from it. This woman sought it out, then left her child alone in the car and was gleeful about it. Gleeful. But this same cabal will tell you they're the ones who care about humanity, children, the innocents. And I'm sorry to bring this to you because every day here on the Megan Kelly show, we have yet another leftist, crying., All right,, we've, shown the new CBS news anchor Tony Dokable balling about the fact he didn't get to grow up in Miami where he wanted to cuz his family moved away.

34:15 Then we had CIA, what's her name? the new tenant zar for mayor Zora Mamdani crying because the Daily Mail decided to ask her questions. Seal Weaver. Um, and now we have Phillip Bump who is a Washington Post columnist who was on the air on MS Now yesterday. I'm just going to play the clip for you. Six.

34:38 I, mean,, I, think, all, this, can, be, very personal. Uh oh, god. Look what you did to me, Chris. Um, I have a six-year-old and uh live TV. Great. Really emotional for me. And you know, I take away this is

35:00 great., Um,, you, know,, what, I, take, away from this is for me that's the thing that stands out that this was a family that could have been like mine. Um and there are a lot of situations, a lot of incidents that have involved ICE, have involved the government over the course of the past 13 months in which there is resonance for other families in in similar ways. Uh and for me, it's hard to think about that family being affected in this way.

35:27 Okay., I, I, I, have, a, serious, question, for you. This sounds flippant, but it's not. Is it the Is it the plastics that we're all taking in? Is it like too much sunscreen? What's Why are all the men becoming effeminite and more female-like in their emotions? I see a man crying on TV unless like their immediate family member has just passed or a dear dear friend of theirs or it's a situation like we had God rest him with Charlie where you're watching something horri that I excuse. But I'm sorry Jesse all this he doesn't know her. He knows that she was an agitator and he he literally can't control his emotions. I really is it is it an environmental thing like with the frogs that's making these guys more female?

36:12 I, know, that, we've, lost, 50%, of, our testosterone in 50 years and that they say according to studies that we're losing 1% a year from what I understand and there's a million different things on this. The main culprit, believe it or not, is the estrogen, the elevated amounts of estrogen that's in women's birth control that is somehow making its way into the water. Somehow they're not treating it out of their supply.

36:36 What?, Well,, you, don't, have, it., My husband Doug doesn't have it. Like, why are you guys still men?

36:40 That's, because, I, don't, drink, water, Megan. I stick with whiskey and so I'm going to be just fine in the end. But no, look, I I don't know whether it's the water supply. I don't know exactly what maybe Philip is actually on birth control given how the left thinks about things these days. He could be worried about getting pregnant. This is how these people think. I have no earthly idea. What I do know is that as a man to work up some crocodile tears on television, even if it's fake, and it probably was fake, even if it's fake, is so inherently embarrassing that there's no cause that I would do that for in the world. And if I was asked to, if my bosses told me in no uncertain terms to I would quit on that day because there's just no way you're going to get me to work that up on camera. And that the lack of shame sometimes. I know this probably sounds weird, Megan. You can yell at me if you want. Sometimes I

37:31 admire it that when you look at the ridiculous things these people do without an ounce of shame whatsoever. They just tell a blatant lie right to your face. They'll just they'll cry on camera. No shame. They'll do these stupid dances, all the dumb dances and the chants in the streets. Every time I look, I always think I always picture my dad and what my dad would say to me. God rest his soul. If I if he ever caught me doing something like that and he would just slaughter me. Yes. He would slaughter me and it I don't I don't know what it is, Megan, but I don't have it.

38:02 This, I'm, sorry., Like, this, is, the, kind, of man who would cry during sex. Like instant ruination. Like I this is ridiculous. He doesn't know this person. He knows that she went out there and and asked for a confrontation and still he's like this is he's leaning into it the same way that Tony Dookapool was enjoying the fact that he worked up tears over his lost childhood in Miami because they think this is like how to connect with you know today's young women you're not even discussing something particularly emot, by By, the, way, you're, in, news, Philip Bump used to write for the Washington Post now he's an MS now contributor you're in news you're supposed to develop a little bit of a thick skin especially as a man. But no matter male or female, this is crazy town what they're, doing., All right,, I, want, to, keep going because there's much more insanity to bring to you. Um, over in

39:00 Philadelphia, they have views on what has happened in Minnesota. Both the crazy ass woke Soros sponsored DAR Kraner Larry and his police chief. Oh and they're talking real tough, Jesse against the Trump administration and ICE with warnings about what's going to go down if Trump sends ICE there, which is absolutely his right. Um, we'll start with Kraner. Let's watch it. ST two.

39:27 If, any, law, enforcement, agent,, any, ICE agent is going to come to Philly to commit crimes, then you can get the f out of here. Because if you do that here I will charge you with those crimes. You will be arrested.

39:48 I'm, a, tough, guy. You, will, stand, trial. You will be convicted whether it's in state or federal court. It's my office prosecuting it. That's how the law works. And you will

40:02 because, Donald, Trump, cannot, pardon, you for a state court conviction. Do you hear me? ICE agents, do you hear?

40:11 I, hear, that, you, don't, have, jurisdiction or do you hear me? Military. You're, going, to, jail, if, you, commit crimes in the city of Philadelphia. You will be accountable. The law applies to all of you.

40:27 Okay,, good, luck, with, that., I, just, I've got to show you the police chief and then get your reaction. Her name is Relle Bilal and she's the Philadelphia sheriff. I'm Roshelle Bal, the sheriff for the city and county of Philadelphia. And I say her name, Renee Good. Rene

40:46 Rene, Good., Rene, good. Renee, good. Rene, good. This, should, not, have, happened,, but, we're here today. Let know that law enforcement professionals, real ones not the fake madeup ICE, probably Trump's uh new army to attack citizens of the United States. Did you hear what I said?

41:09 No, law, enforcement, professional, wears, a mask. None. None. those that come into our communities wearing a mask to commit crime. I'm thank God for our district attorney Larry Kramer, who say he's going to lock them up. And I'm saying now, we are not going to whisk you away for them to hide your identity because when you do it there, you getting arrested there. Law enforcement professionals do not shoot at moving vehicles. Not saying fleeing because she wasn't fleeing. She was getting out of the way. Law enforcement professionals do not stand in front of moving vehicles invoking an action that is illegal.

42:02 No,, we, don't. Tell, tell, it, to, the, officer, in Baltimore, Maryland. Not not too far from Philadelphia really on the on the train route. Tell it to her. We do not stand in front of a vehicle and we do not fire at a moving vehicle no matter whether it's about to run you over and take their parent from their child.

42:25 Couple, things, make, it, and, both, of, these things are completely somber and I'm sorry I don't mean to sound like I'm black peeling. I swear I'm not. First of all, you with all the DEI madness that's been going on in this country for a solid decade now, if not two decades it's it's been common for for most people, I know I've done this a lot, to think that, yeah, there's a lot of that. Yeah, they're just hiring this person because she's gay, because she's a black or a woman, or Lord willing, you get the trifecta, and you get all three, and you're just trying to hire this and that. And we always think that, well okay, they're going to hire someone for the mail room, maybe a street cop. Uh sure, an assistant manager somewhere.

43:02 We've convinced ourselves that this stuff, will, at least, be, held, at, a, at, a manageable level. Surely this stuff won't rise to the highest most important levels of society. But that's simply not how it worked at all. Well, the truth is at the the head of police departments and sheriff's departments and corporations and government government agencies and all kinds of things, we have the most low IQ loser scumbags now running critical institutions in this country. And it's frightening when you think about how high this stuff goes.

43:33 That's one. Two, uh I know you're much more of a student of history than probably I am, Megan. I certainly know your wonderful husband Doug is, but I have not been able to find a historic historical example of where we are now as a country. And where we are now as a country is we have hostile foreign city states inside of our border. And I'm not sure how a country deals with that, any country, because I've never seen an example of it. Maybe the best example would be some city in you the Roman Empire or some or or the Persians or some city that rebelled inside of its border. Maybe that's the best example I can find historically.

44:18 Only it's all over the United States of America. New York City, LA, Minneapolis Chicago, over and over and over. Seattle, Portland, you can go down the line. Some of our biggest, most important cities, it's not just that they're a little left, right? It's not just that they see things differently. That's always been the case. They are openly hostile and the leadership of those cities has declared that the deportation force of the United States of America is illegal, subject to arrest, and that they will send their law enforcement out to fight them. That is,

44:50 yeah, civil, warish., I, hate, to, even, use, the term. Tim, Tim, Walls, threatened, to, do, that., He he threatened to do that just the other night. He said if ICE keeps this up he's, going to, send, the, National, Guard out to fight ICE. Good luck with that. You're so right. And on your first point about like the DEI hires and you're kind of banking on maybe traffic cop at the best. Um, no it's that's not what's happening. This is the police commissioner for Minneapolis for Henipin County, Minnesota where this thing went down. Her name is Irene Fernando. You don't have to listen to much. It happened this morning to figure out what's going on with this lady. Watch.

45:28 I'm Henipin County Commissioner Irene Fernando, but you can call me Kamish. I use she her pronouns and I'm a very very proud child of immigrants. I'm the youngest woman to ever serve on the Henipin County Board. I'm the first Filipino American elected in the state

45:44 and, I'm, Henipin's, first, board, chair, of color in our history. Oh, my, god., The, United, States, due, process means that justice is pursued through legal action, credible investigation and courts, not through guns, murder and violence on our streets.

46:05 Jez, it's everything., Every, box. It's, at, the, highest, levels,, Megan., And that's what's scary. It's And you know what? It's even more frightening when you talk about it like this. It's in law schools, as you well know. It's in medical schools. Everyone's seen the video,, or, at least, if, you, haven't,, I highly recommend you go look it up. At Colombia during medical school graduation, we're talking elite level. This Colombia, the kids are reading some communist apparatic about how I am going to when I when I do medicine, I'm going to take into account the historically disadvantaged. I mean, the biggest bunch of commie goblygook you've ever heard in your life. We lied to ourselves that this stuff is so insane and would be so damaging that yes, they'll let the animals have some fun with this role or that rule, but surely they'll never rise up into the most critical positions, but that's just not true. And again, in blue

47:01 areas, in blue states, and most definitely blue cities, they control everything. As you know, Megan, they are the judges. They are the DAs. They are the, cops., At least, the, top, cops., The street cops may be okay, but they're completely handcuffed. Pardon the pun on that. They're the mayors. They're the They run the city parks department. How do you deal with hostile communist foreign city states inside your border? I don't know, but I know we have to. We can't go on like this.

47:29 No,, we, have, to, do, what, Trump, is, doing. You have to and you have to double down. You have to send more troops when they behave like this. I just can't imagine being in her position, which you're supposed to be kind of a badass person right? your police commissioner and like talking about myself like that like I'm I'm a woman. Um I'm now over 40 so I'm you know ARP eligible. Um I'm Irish so I come from people who were oppressed when they first immigrated to the United States. Um there's some some Polish in my background. We were invaded by the Nazis. Um I have one breast that's slightly larger than the other.

48:04 Um, how much are we going to learn about you, madam? It's insane. These people they're not Well, that's why your your first response was totally valid in in a couple of these sound bites, which was I heard you giggling. That's that's what comes to mind. They're laughable.

48:22 What, What, else, can, you, do, when, when you're faced with this kind of insanity? It's not like you can I mean, we talked about it in the in the beginning of the show, Megan. It's not like you can tackle it or reason with it. any human being who introduces themselves with their pronouns and then as you just mentioned goes down the list of their their neverend here are my victim accomplishments before I go through this there's no there's no talking to that person we've always wanted to believe those, of, us, at least, my, me, on, the, right we've always wanted to believe because we believe in the goodness of our fellow man and the sanctity of every individual that that maybe maybe our political opponents okay they're they're a little lost they're they're a little naive.

49:02 Naive. They just don't understand. If I could just have a pizza and a beer. Give me a couple hours. I'll show them. I've got facts. I've got facts here on this paper. I'll show them some facts. I'll show them some video and and they'll come around. That's not true. They're insane. They're just insane.

49:18 No,, it's, a, it's, a, no., I, would, love, for that woman to meet you and say those pronouns and and you say

49:23 uh,, I'm, Jesse, Kelly., He,, him,, white, straight. It's awesome. Okay, stand by. Um, we have got more with Jesse on the back end of this break. Don't go away. I've been talking a lot about Riverbend Ranch because I love their steaks. They have some spectacular beef bundles that are wonderful gifts to friends and family. Their prime rib roast and other bundles are only available while supplies last, and they are going fast. For the last 35 years, Riverbend Ranch has been creating an elite Angus herd by using ultrasound technology to identify genetically superior cattle with a focus on flavor and tenderness. They only use the top one or 2% of the other of the entire Angus population as their breeding stock, producing beef that has much more flavor and tenderness than your average Angus beef. All Riverbend Ranch cattle are born and raised in the USA, and the beef is processed right at the ranch in their award-winning USDA

50:16 inspected processing facility. You avoid the costly middlemen because the beef is sent directly from Riverbend Ranch to your home. Order from riverbendranch.com and use the promo code Megan for 20 bucks off your first order. Let me know what you think. That's riverbendranch.com. Promo code Megan. All right, so here's where we're going. My team, because they love to torture me, heard our discussion about NPR's up first this morning and went back and cut the bit about Renee Good's Pinterest. Would you listen to this? Well, a reporter from the Minnesota Star Tribune spoke with Good's mother. She described her as the kindest person she's ever known. Said she was not involved in any kind of anti-government activity. Good was the mother of three kids. The youngest is about 6 years old.

51:07 We, know, she, had, a, home, repair, business with her wife in Kansas City. We also found what appears to be her Pinterest page. And you know that page, to put it simply, is filled with the things of a normal human life. ideas for recipes and haircuts, plans for a garden, and tips on parenting like how to soo a child's anxiety and fun things to do with them in the summer. Jesse, that's it. That's it. And listen listen. The New York Post has an explosive report out today that talks about how this woman Good was an anti-ICE warrior who was part of a group of activists who worked to document and resist the ISIS crackdown in Minnesota.

51:50 She moved to the city last year. She linked up with the anti-ICE activists through her six-year-old son's woke charter school, which boasts that it puts social justice first and involves kids in political and social activism. She was a warrior. She died doing what was right. A mother named Lisa whose child attends the same school told the Post. She they they say that her she was trained against ICE agents what to do what not to do. It's a very thorough training, says Lisa. Is it um to listen to commands, know your rights, whistle when you see the ICE agents, and so on.

52:25 She was doing everything right. Not last, but last but not least, these goods. Uh, Renee and her wife had no love loss for President Trump, leaving their Kansas City, Missouri neighborhood to leave for to move to Canada after the 2024 election with plans to leave the country for good. They lived there for a few months before settling into Minneapolis, said a former neighbor. So this woman who's just she's just about the recipes, Jess, that's it. Just loves her recipes. Was a freaking icerained agitator. Can you imagine how disgusting her recipes must have been? There's no way that woman was a good cook. I There's no way that's that's one. Two, I I think normal people would be shocked to discover the level of professionalism these communist warriors I and I you know, I'll use their term because that's how they see themselves. normal people even politically active people who go vote in primary elections and get

53:18 involved in elections do not really realize the level of organization and sophistication of the communists in the United States of America. And it's always been this way. And let's remember, we have elected officials like Karen Bass, mayor of Los Angeles America's second biggest city, traveled routinely to Cuba for communist training. Tim Walls, governor of Minnesota, traveled to China about 8,000 times. Nothing shady going on there. If you talk to any former communist street animal in this country, and I've talked to many, they will discuss classes courses, they have retreats that that we we don't do this kind of stuff on the right. If anything, and I I ran for Congress twice and lost twice, but you gather people up for five minutes on a Saturday and say, "Here's your list, and uh please be polite and here's some bumper stickers to hand out and go knock on some doors and have a good time

54:10 everybody. God bless. Gather around for a prayer." That's the extent of our training on the right. Communists don't do this. They have whiteboards. This is what you're allowed to do. This is how you can impede if you do this. And beyond that, Megan, I know you know about this because I know you've talked about this. They have phone numbers you can call if you do take things too far and get yourself in handcuffs where you can call a number and somebody will post bail on your behalf. It is a level of it's an army. It's it's a gorilla army operating inside of our borders. It doesn't want you to know that. So whenever one of them takes it too far and gets shot, you have to talk about her Pinterest page on NPR. Just a loving mother and poet who made a lovely kale salad. But in reality, that woman was trained and most likely paid.

54:57 Honestly,, I, like, I, am, sorry, that, Renee Good is no longer with us. I genuinely am. I'm sorry for her, for her family for her children. But it is because of her own choices. That's just the harsh reality. She made really, really terrible decisions. And now this just in. Uh Jesse, we've been asking yesterday along with many others, where is the videotape from the cop? because and I'm not I'm not gonna name the cop right now. His name is out there, but I don't want him doxed. Uh this is not important right now what his name is. Um by the way, he's an Iraq war veteran. He has a family of his own. Uh and again he was dragged just last June by an illegal while he was trying to arrest him in ICE, a child molester to save people like Renee Good's children. Um so he had reason to fear these cars. So he took out his cell phone and he he was videotaping this whole encounter. And we asked ourselves and our audience

55:50 yesterday, where's that tape? Well guess what? Alpha News just got it. And they're amazing. They're in uh Minneapolis and in Minnesota. They've done great reporting on the whole Derek Schovin case. And um here it is. We're going to play it for you. This is the the vantage point from the cop leading up to the moments of the confrontation. He's getting out of his car. You can see him approaching the maroon SUV. She's She's behind the wheel.

56:23 That's, fine,, dude. I'm, not, mad,, boy. Show, your, face. I'm, not, mad. That's, okay., We, don't, change, our, plates every morning.

56:29 That's, her, talking., I'm, not, mad. It'll, be, the, same, plate, when, you, come talk to us later. That's fine. US citizen, former wife. You want to come at us?

56:38 You, want, to, come, at, us?, I, say, go, get yourself some money, boy. Go ahead.

56:43 Out, of, the, car. Get, out, of, the, car., Get, out, of the way. She's, getting, in.

56:49 Here, it, goes. Let's, react, that., Let's, react, the, very last part and we'll we'll play it again. But Jesse, what what we see there is her wife antagonizing Ice. This was obviously part of an op. She's filming them. She's she's trying to upset them. And uh I didn't realize the wife was trying to get into the car at the time Renee Good steps on the accelerator and hits the cop. Let's watch it again.

57:24 The, same, plate, when, you, come, talk, to, us later. That's fine. US citizen, former president., You, want, to, come, at us?

57:31 You, want, to, come, at, us?, I, say, go, get yourself some lunch, big boy. Go ahead.

57:35 Out, of, the, car., Get, out, of, the car. Get, out, of, the, car. Oh, I, mean,, you, can, hear, the, collision., You can hear her hit him. And by the way Jesse, if you slow it down and you look at the screen grab of Renee Good's face you can see she saw him. She's looking right at him. I mean, there's We have it here. You'd have to zoom in, but I did it on my phone. She clearly saw the officer and accelerated. I don't know that she wanted to run him over. I don't know what she intended, but it doesn't matter. What he saw was a dangerous instrumentality about to kill him, and that is why he opened fire. Your thoughts on it?

58:18 No,, she's, dead., I, I, think, it's, so, sad, but these are the Look, this is You start doing drugs. Please don't start doing drugs, Megan. Not that I'm concerned for you, but you you start doing uh drugs, heroin. It's something something terrible like that. You make choices, bad choices. They lead to other bad choices which leads to other bad choices and one day those choices get you killed. I I've made a bunch of terrible choices in my life, many of which could have gotten me killed and by the grace of God I'm still here. But that's a woman who knows the whole background of how she got involved in communist politics, all the meetings all the all the training, all the this and that, her and her her wife. And they led her to Minnesota one day and now she's gone. She'll never see the age of 38. And the the terrible tragedy as as we talked about in the first hour is the communist leadership that encourages

59:13 these people, organizes these people pays these people, billionaires, people in the media, Democrat politicians, they won't they won't change their ways today, Megan. There's no humanity in it for them. They're not sorry at all. They'll send a bunch of other poor idiot dregs out to die again today and tomorrow and the next day. They'll kill the whole world if it means money and power. Yeah it's

59:34 was, like, six, or, eight, months, ago. Remember they said more more people need to die. We need to cause more chaos and more people need to die to get attention to our issues. Well, Renee Good was sacrificed in that battle. Here's a closer image of her face while driving the car into the officer. I mean, there it's clear she's looking at the camera. She obviously saw him and put her foot on the gas and pressed. It doesn't matter what her motivation was. I don't care whether she was trying to run him over or trying to escape. All that matters was the perspective of the officer and a reasonable officer in the same position.

1:00:09 Would they reasonably fear for their safety or the safety of others? And by the way, the one the other cop's arm was in the car as she was trying to take off. Uh, and the answer is obviously yes., All right., Listen,, I, know, you, you got a hard out coming, but I've got to ask you about this story. Um, it happened in May, but it just made the news over the weekend because the video for some reason just caught on. It it is in uh Planet Fitness in California and a woman named Grace Hudson who goes to Planet Fitness walked into the women's locker room and what she says is she used the facilities. She walked out of the stall, I guess, to wash her hands.

1:00:47 The shower inside the women's locker room stops and quote, "This dude comes out." Quote, "Literally straight up dude, tall and masculine. He's naked and wrapped in a towel, she says. And the next thing she knows, he goes into one of the bathroom stalls. Forgive me. Viewer warning here. You're not going to see, any, body, parts,, but, you're, going to see shadows of the body parts. And it's really clear what he was doing.

1:01:23 Bro,, I, literally, saw, your, shadow,, bro. Like Come on. She, confronts, him.

1:01:27 You, saw, my, shadow, that, didn't keep myself together. Y'all, going, to, call, the, cops, or, do something about this cuz this is

1:01:40 the, boyfriend., I, just, want, to, make, sure this properly. Don't, act, innocent,, bro.

1:01:46 I, saw, the, video., I, was, on FaceTime watching you. You're, in, the, females, locker room beating your dick. It doesn't matter who you are. That's inappropriate to be doing with females around. It doesn't matter if you're in the stall. It is inappropriate. Do that at home.

1:02:04 Not, harassing, you, out, in, the, stall. You, were, in, the, women's, bathroom.

1:02:07 I'm, allowed, to, be, in, here., You, cannot. Doesn't, matter, if, you're, allowed, to, be in here. You're not allowed to jerk off in here. Bro

1:02:14 what, were, you, doing? I, was, drying, off, like, I, just Oh,, it's, just, drying, off., Just, I'm, sorry for the listening audience. you what you can see is like if you were standing outside of a bathroom stall, you can see maybe people's feet and you can potentially see a shadow of the person and you can see the guy's clearly jerking off. It's very obvious. And then they confront him. He's dressed in hot pink. He's half out of the stall because he's, you know, I guess embarrassed he got caught and claiming he has a right to be there, which sadly under California law, he does. He does. The Planet Fitness people stand around. They have no idea how to handle it. That's obvious. They don't help. The boyfriend comes there in there and does the right thing, you know, calls out the guy, gets into his face rhetorically. And this guy has the rights and the law on his side in the People's Republic of California.

1:03:09 Jesse Kelly you, know,, Megan,, we, we, look, across, the ocean at various, you know, Islamist type countries where where women are treated like cattle. you know Afghanistan right now, young girls aren't allowed to go to school and women are beaten and abused. And we're mortified by it. Correctly. So, by the way, we're mortified by it. That that there's a place where women are just abused repeatedly. And you know what we do though? We look down our noses at those places and we think, "Well, I could never hear." Well, that's every blue state now in the United States of America. And that's just the reality of it. The reality of it is because we've allowed this demonic filth to fill up certain parts of our country that young girls are abused, sexual abuse physically abused, certainly on the sports field routinely. And we still look across the pond at a place like Afghanistan and we talk about what

1:03:58 backwards barbarians they are. But every decent society in the history of mankind would have handled that problem immediately. And I mean legally illegally. Immediately that person would have been apprehended, faced some sort of punishment. Who knows what kind of punishment that would be? It would depend on what time period, but it it would have just simply been understood. The women deserve to be protected in society. But if you choose to be a Democrat and live in a Democrat place that protection is now gone. You are way you're not even second fiddle. I don't know if there's a third or fourth fiddle, but that's where you are compared to all this demonic nonsense that goes on. And it it sickens me that's where we are that young girls that women of any age would be subjected to that. But that's what happens when you vote Democrat.

1:04:47 Yeah., And, now, like, that, you're, I, have, a 14-year-old daughter. Like we have to walk into Planet Fitness and if she has to use a facility, she has to be next to that. Or what about after this guy leaves, I've got to go use that stall or my fellow women have to go use that stall that some guy was just jerking off in. How did it end?

1:05:01 Uh, it's, disgusting., I, know., And, and Gavin Nuome, who wants to be the president, allows this. He willingly allows it. It's disgusting. And they say, Jesse, oh, you know, it's about being kind and being empathetic and people are different and we have to let them use the the facility that aligns with their gender identity. The vast majority of these men pretending to be women are auto gyophiles. they get off on being in women's spaces, dressing like women, and if they can jerk off around women in those circumstances, so much the better. We are not safe with these perverts exploiting these laws.

1:05:43 And I don't know what it's going to go. I'll let you get a quick last word, but I don't know what it's going to take to to to bring this home for people like Gavin Newsome who are still in power and want even more of it. It's going to take people, even normal people, maybe even you know, people who lean a little left waking up and realizing there's only one party that enables this. It's not me sitting here waving pompoms for the useless Republicans. But the truth is the demon the Democrat party, they are the party of evil now. They promote it.

1:06:11 They will protect it. And as long as you keep voting Democrat, I know I know your daddy loved JFK, but as long as you keep voting Democrat, this is what you're going to get more of. There's no way around it. Jesse Kelly, thank you for everything you do.

1:06:25 Appreciate, you,, mate. Okay,, I, just, want, to, play, one, sound bite. Jesse had to go, but I want to play the soundbite of the young woman who was the witness to this. Her name is Grace Hudson, as I said, and she's she updated her video by commenting on it on TikTok this past Sunday. Listen.

1:06:42 I, go, out, to, wash, my, hands., The, shower stops and this dude comes out a tall and just masculine everything. He's naked and wrapped in a towel. I go to dry my hands. I turn back around and I see that shadow. So, I go back out into the gym and about 10 15 minutes later, I come back into the bathroom and he's still doing that. I called my boyfriend and showed him. I go and tell the workers at the front desk. They just didn't really seem like they knew what to do. Eventually, they follow me into the restroom. He kept trying to say, "Oh, he's transgender. He was drying off. I do have regrets. Like I should have done more. I should have called the cops. I thought about it, but I was like, there's no way anything is going to come of this. Like people are just going to say I'm transphobic.

1:07:46 Okay, I'm That makes me so sad. This young woman should never have had to deal with that. It is a failure of all the rest of us. She's young. She didn't make the laws. She grew up probably in the area. It It's a failure of all of ours in not stopping this, not working harder to stop this. You know, I I don't know what to say. I I wish I had always been on the right side of this issue like so many millions of Americans. I thought it was empathetic to be kind to, you know, trans people so-called trans people who I never advocated for their use of bathrooms and locker rooms, but I'm just saying like the empathy thing worked on me until I started to see it explode. And so, it's my fault and it's the fault of so many but it's really the fault of the people who are still pushing it. There is no excuse for still pushing it in 2026 America. There is no excuse for Gavin Newsome and the lawmakers of California

1:08:45 like Scott Weiner, the disgusting, foul perverted, in my view, Scott Weiner, to allow this Why does she have to deal with this when she goes in just to work out and use the facilities? Shame on you. Shame on you, Gavin Newsome. And I'm telling you right now, if this guy runs for president and there is a debate and somebody doesn't ask him about this I will shame you daily. I will call my other big swing in podcast friends and make sure you get shamed by name for not asking him about this, about how he could allow this to happen to poor Grace Hudson. It's not her fault. She's feeling bad. She feels guilty that she didn't do more. Grace, there's nothing more you could do. The California law is against you. It allows this pervert to jerk off an inch away from you in the bathroom stall when you are just trying to get fit and better your life. It's disgusting. It's immoral. It's derelch.

1:09:47 It's evil. Uh there's been no response from Planet Fitness. Why not? Do you give two shits about your clients? Do you care at all? I wonder what Grace is paying a month. probably 70 bucks for her membership. Do you care at all about the women there? I'm just curious like who goes in there and cleans up the mess that that disgusting fool made? Yeah. Like do you think he's the kind who cleans up carefully after himself or do the women now need to sit on male seammen when they try to use the stall? That's okay with you, Planet Fitness, just checking asking for a friend. And you might want to talk to your front desk staff if you're going to impose these laws on Californians and then you Planet Fitness are just going to go along with them instead of creating some single sex stall where they can go. You might want to give some thought to the front desk staff. You know, like maybe they need to

1:10:40 come in there with their rubber gloves and their Clorox and their mops and their rags after every one of these so-called trans people uses our facilities. Okay? Because none of us wants to sit on that bathroom stall. None of us wants to deal with that. Okay? And unlike men, we actually do have to sit most of the time and our legs burn and it's tough and sometimes you're dealing with feminine business that makes it even tougher to be standing hovering for five minutes over the seat. So clean up your act make it clean, make it safe. And honestly, if if you can't stop this from happening, close up your doors and hang up your shingle. Get out. get out of the health business because that's not what this is. This is Time Square in 1977.

1:11:25 That's what this is. They're one step away from carving a little hole in between the stalls so somebody can suck that guy off. I'm sorry. I'm getting disgusting, but it happens. This is so disgusting. And what they tell us is it's trans rights, our human rights. That's it. That's the tweet. No, this is about women's rights. This is about this young girl, Grace's right to be safe and feel safe when she tries to relieve herself while working out. you,, Planet, Fitness., you, Gavin Newsome, and you too, Scott Weiner. We'll be right back. A new year means new financial goals like making sure your savings are secure and diversified. Will this be the year you decide to talk to someone from Birch Gold Group? They use an educational approach with a deep understanding of macroeconomics.

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1:13:22 Hey,, thanks, for, having, me., Great, to, be with you. Great, to, see, you., Okay,, so, we've, been talking about Minneapolis and Portland all afternoon and one thing I didn't get to was now that um Renee Good has died

1:13:39 the, protesters, who, have, been, harassing ICE for days are treating it like she's George Floyd. I mean like this is just a clear example in their view of police brutality and you know every sane passionate or compassionate person would see her as the obvious victim who didn't ask for this and you get this from one of the protesters. This is via the Daily Wire's Brea Stole SAT 12.

1:14:05 I, got, I, was, like, I, don't, know if, it's the right thing to do. It feels kind of wrong being here in some way. I don't know why. Um

1:14:10 why, why, do, you, think, Yeah, I, don't, know., Um, I don't know like where that stems from. Um, like I don't I mean part of it is being like a white woman that I'm privileged and I have a lot of privilege. Um, so I feel like white tears are not always something that's helpful or necessary. Um, when black and brown people have been experiencing this

1:14:38 for, a, long, time., Um,, this, isn't, new, for them. And so oh, my, god, um, I, don't, know, if, that, makes, any, sense, in that way.

1:14:48 Uh,, I'm, here, and, I'm, crying,, but, I, feel guilty about my tears cuz I'm white. And this doesn't even involve anybody who's black at all or Hispanic. It's all whites. The shooter, the cop, the cop who shot her is white. The woman who died is white. Her wife was white.

1:15:02 This, is, every, white,, white,, white,, and white. But you're a white woman's not allowed to shed white tears. Period. link because black and brown people have gone through this more times than white people have.

1:15:12 No,, they're, definitely, trying, to, make Renee the next George Floyd. You can see that with Tim Walls. And I think it's perfect for Tim Walls because he allowed businesses to be burnt to the ground during George Floyd. In fact, I think his wife talked about how they could smell tires burning outside and it really, you know, cos them to sleep. We can smell tires burning outside. Then Jacob Fry

1:15:30 Yeah., She, said, she, used, to, put, down, her windows or lift up her windows so she could smell it.

1:15:34 Right., And, then, you, have, Jacob, Fry, who was kneeling at George Floyd's casket. So, they're trying to do this, but what people can't forget, and I've been trying to raise this on social media this is a gift to Tim Walls. He won't admit this publicly, but in my opinion this is a big gift for Tim Walls, and he's probably happy that this happened because it's moving the news cycle off of his massive Somali fraud scandal. Look how quickly the move the news cycle moved on to Renee. So, I think Tim Walls is probably happy about this, but we're going to have to get back to the fraud scandal. One thing I also say is this.

1:16:03 If you're driving and someone tells you to stop their car, right? If a federal agent tries to stop and talk to you, do not try to ram into them with your Honda Pilot. Right? For me, I follow the rules. But what we've seen with these Democrats for years is they're so used to being let off the hook by leftist liberal judges. They're used to having no consequences. There'll be, you know pallets of bricks left out for them at these protests just willy-nilly. And so they're not ever used to having consequences. And unfortunately, in this situation, she had consequences. Nobody wanted to see her get shot. Nobody wanted to see her die. But when you're using your car as a weapon, things are going to happen, right? You stalked this guy, you rammed him, and it went down.

1:16:40 And, yet, the, media, continues, to, look, at this and say what we're seeing here is she was in the right. That's that's what this shows. You know, we saw that with Jimmy Kimmel last night. Thank God. You know, thank God there's a video that shows us this is Rachel Matto. Like obviously the video shows that the cop was in the wrong. And then thank goodness for Vice President JD Vance who went to the White House uh press briefing room yesterday got up in front of the, lectern, and, let, him, have, it. Here's ST 9.

1:17:09 Uh, when, I, was, actually, walking, out, here um somebody sent me a photo of a CNN headline about what happened in Minneapolis. And this is the headline. I'm just going to read it. Outrage after ICE officer kills US citizen in Minneapolis. Well, that's one way to put it and that is the way that many people in the corporate media have put this attack over the last 24 hours. And I say attack very, very intentionally because this was an attack on federal law enforcement. This was an attack on law and order. This was an attack on the American people. The way that the media by and large has reported this story has been an absolute disgrace and it puts our law enforcement officers at risk every single day. What that headline leaves out is the fact that that very off ICE officer nearly had his life ended, dragged by a car 6 months ago, 33 stitches in his leg. So, you think maybe he's a little bit sensitive about

1:18:06 somebody ramming him with an automobile? What that headline leaves out is that that woman was there to interfere with a legitimate law enforcement operation in the United States of America. But what that headline leaves out is that that woman has is part of a broader left-wing network to attack, to dox, to assault and to make it impossible for our ICE officers to do their job.

1:18:30 Cue, all, the, media, saying, he, made, that up. None of that is verifiable. She wasn't part of a network. See her mother,

1:18:38 her, mom,, who, says, she, was, really, great and wasn't part of a network. Well, I've got reporting from the New York Post quoting people at her woke school who say she was.

1:18:47 Mhm., You, know, what's, so, funny, watching that clip, what comes to mind for me is it's so nice having a president, a vice president, a secretary of state, an entire administration that can form coherent sentences because for the last four years, could you imagine Kamla even getting up there to do a presser and take questions that aren't vetted? Could you imagine Joe Biden getting up to take questions? They would give him note cards with people's pictures and names and biographies and the questions written out for him. So when I saw JD Vance at the podium, we can talk about the content of what he said next. I was just so happy to see a vice president who wasn't three sheets to the wind by 12 in the afternoon and could actually talk and form coherent sentences. So that was great. I'll also say this. Stop vilifying and demonizing law enforcement. But this is the whole narrative on the left, right? They

1:19:30 always have this victim mentality. They vilify men and women in uniform. Vilify people who serve our country. You see that with Jimmy Kimmel. Maybe we can talk about him in a second, but it's this constant vilification of people who are out there enforcing laws. I'm sorry Democrats. Let me break it to you how the country works. I haven't been on Earth that long, but I can break it down for you. Elections have consequences. If you guys don't like the deportations, if you don't like what ICE is doing, take it to the ballot box. You know what I'm saying? Kla Harris lost every single swing state, the House, the Senate, the popular vote, Electoral College, the list goes on. So when the Democrats are crying and whining about this, this is what we voted for. President Trump for 10 years has run on mass deportations.

1:20:11 We're going to do the wall. We're going to get criminals out of the country. We're going to be tough about it and we're going to move fast and get things done. So when the election came around and he won overwhelmingly, you guys are going, "Oh, we can't believe he's out there doing it. Take it to the ballot box. Stop using your cars as weapons. Stop stalking law enforcement. Stop doxing them." this poor man who was in an unfortunate situation and did what he thought he had to do in self-defense. They've already found his name, where he lives, his family. God bless all of them. But these leftists will continue to vilify law enforcement unfortunately I think, from here on out until 2028.

1:20:43 It's, to, you're, totally, right., And, by, the way, it was a very good point you made about Tim Walls because look, he may be dodging, responsibility, or, at least, the limelight right now because all eyes are focused on ICE, but this is coming back. This is definitely coming back. ICE did not back off one bit. Their officers are all still there investigating the fraud and arresting illegals. And just yesterday, we got an an uh announcement from Secretary Bessant uh saying if you are on public assistance, you can no longer wire money out of the United States, which is clearly aimed directly at these Somali in Minneapolis, who per reporting from City Journal and County Highway and others have been wiring money overseas. in part it is believed has fund the al-Shabaab terrorist network and Secretary Bessant just put the kaibash on that and Tim Walls is not going to escape responsibility for this

1:21:39 no, Tim, Walls, wants, to, offiscade, hide, the truth he does not want to address this Somali scandal and I'm almost thinking you know I'm the least conspiratorial person you will ever find Megan but when I look at the last election right Kla Harris chose Tim Walls out of the blue she needed Pennsylvania she didn't choose the guy from Pennsylvania she chose this clown Mr. jazz hands from Minnesota. So, she chooses him, right? And all of their vetting, you're telling me the DNC's vetting, Kla Harris's vetting, PR, all of that, private investigators, you guys didn't know about any of this fraud, even though people in Minnesota said they've known about it for years. There have been rumors for years. And I can tell you Megan, I have friends all across the political spectrum, left, right, center libertarian, whatever. This is bringing people together. I mean, I had a transgender classmate from NYU who lives

1:22:25 in California text me paragraphs about how pissed she was about the Somali fraud scandal in Minnesota because we work hard. We pay our taxes. We get up and work. We sit here and work and sell our masa chips every day and cowboy colostrum and work. We don't want our tax dollars going to Somalians who are funding terrorism. Call me crazy. And it's clear we're paying way too much in taxes if 8 10 12 billion by some of these estimates is going to terrorist organizations and Somalians and daycarees with no children. So this is going to bring people together. I think fraud if Republicans get their act together in the midterms they can run on this fraud. I mean there's something here for everybody here. Healthc care fraud. SNAP program has a lot of fraud.

1:23:05 They didn't want to turn over their scrolls either. You've got Somalian fraud. You've got people rigging things. I think Republicans can run on this. run on most favored nations, run on getting health care costs down, run on securing the border, and ram this fraud narrative home because if Republicans lose in the midterms, you don't think there's going to be even worse fraud. You don't think there's going to be worse fraud? I have to say get worse.

1:23:24 I, think, it's, great, that, the, DOJ, now, has a new like fraud ambassador, fraud zar I'll do it

1:23:28 who's, going, to, be, looking, at, this,, but that person also needs to look into disability fraud because I've covered so many cases where people they claim disability, it's They retire with, something, like, I, don't know threequarters of their salary and it's all made up. Then you see them running a marathon. You see them doing like a triathlon. It's ridiculous. And that's another fertile area to figure out who's defrauding us out of our hardearned dollars.

1:23:50 If, anyone, has, flown, Southwest, in, the comments, you have seen this first and foremost. They have 20 wheelchairs. And you know Southwest is first come first serve. So it's like the Hunger Games. They've got 20 wheelchairs cuz people got to get on first and get those good seats. You get off in Miami, people struting off the plane, sacheting off the plane. So we do need to look into all of this.

1:24:08 It's, so, true., We, have, all, seen, that., One word on JD Vance, who was just stellar yesterday. Tim Miller of the Dispatch uh tweets out, JD Vance is the most appalling person in public life since segregation. This is a truly despicable performance. And then you've got John Favro of the Pod Save guys. Can't believe I'm saying this, but I think he's worse than Trump. Certainly more despicable. Two people that's just two, but there were plenty others calling him despicable. That's the word for JD Vance. He's despicable.

1:24:40 He's even worse than Trump. Link, they see what we see, which is 48. Well,, it's, interesting., Tim, Miller, these guys from Pod Save America they're about as politically relevant as like a hemorrhoid. Like, nobody cares about what they have to say whatsoever. Like, I don't think anyone is looking to Tim Miller for some political expertise. This guy doesn't even know where he stands. He'll say anything to get on MSNBC each night. So, he has no principles. And where were these folks the last four years when they were carrying water for Biden? When Karine John Pierre and these Democrat operatives were saying he's sharp and quick and doing cartwheels, you have no trust. You have no trust outside of your very far-left base. So, how are you going to win in 26? How are you going to win in 2028? And I will say there's not much competition on the left, right?

1:25:21 Gavin Newsome, he's supposed to be their stellar star. Gavin Newsome in every single interview you press him, he starts shaking, he starts sweating, his eyes are bloodshot, he comes unglued very quickly, Gavin Newsome. So, I don't even think he'll do well in debates. So JD Vance Com Collected Marco Rubio funny comical collected as well. I mean we have a great bench and I think there are some names that we're not even discussing yet. So we'll see.

1:25:46 Here's, what, I, want, to, hear, the, next, time Gavin Newsome goes anywhere. Grace Hudson. Grace Hudson. Grace Hudson. Grace Hudson. Planet Fitness. Planet Fitness. Planet Fitness. Planet Fitness. Every journalist who fails to do that is derelct in his or her duty. Well, what's interesting is one time when I was in the press poll, I asked President Trump about the fight Gavin Newsome was having with the DOJ to keep men and women sports. And we've talked about AB Hernandez. And Gavin Newsome has flip-flopped on this trans issue a lot.

1:26:12 Now he's decided he wants more trans kids and he loves trans. So clearly the special interest and entrenched interests and medical lobby has gotten to him. But I remember asking President Trump, I said, "Does Gavin Newsome hate women? Does he hate women? How can you as a father, right, as a father of a young woman want men in the women's locker rooms, men in the women's bathrooms? And President Trump laughed. He's like, I certainly don't think Gavin Newsome hates women, but if Gavin Newsome doesn't come down on the right side of history on this issue, he doesn't have a prayer. They say this is 8020. Go out there and talk to people at the supermarket. Go out there and talk to forgotten men and women of this country. They will tell you this is not an 8020 issue. And I'm so happy if Kla Harris had won, we could have been deplatformed for having this conversation. Look at what happened during if you said anything they didn't

1:26:56 like. It was like George Orwell 1984. We would have platform and, he, he, he'd, imposed, that, readily., And by the way, no, he doesn't hate women but he he just just our rights. That's all. Just our rights. Um I want to keep going. You mentioned Jimmy Kimmel. I'm glad you raised that cuz I've been trying to get to this all week. His show won the Critics's Choice Awards and he had the nerve to say this backstage. Sat 17.

1:27:20 It's, interesting., It, was, almost, a near-death experience for me and you know, of course, not literally, but I did feel a little bit like uh Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn watching their own funeral when all this stuff happened and and to be here and to um see that people reacted to it in a not just a positive way, but in a almost a desperate way. We're like, "Oh boy, when they come after the comedians, this is when we draw the line." And uh you know, we're very grateful that they threw the line at us.

1:27:54 Uh, Link,, a, near-death, experience., I mean, how dare he use that term? How dare he use that term? This multi-millionaire privileged sitting out there in Beverly Hills because his show was off the air for 5 days. Five days.

1:28:09 That's, it., And, he, wants, to, use, that term. And also just one other point to talk about how oh you know when they come for the comedians.

1:28:17 Where, was, he, when, comedians, were, being cancelled left and right in 2020 because of woke excesses. I'll just play you one just one. Um Ryan Long came on our show in May of 2021. We didn't even have video. We were just an audio podcast back then and talked about this and what he'd been through. He's a brilliant comedian. It's a quick sound bite, but listen to this SAT 19.

1:28:42 I, mean,, when, I, was, uh, doing, stuff, at CBC, which is the Canadian Broadcast Corporation, I was part of, you know traditional media, and I had probably the biggest views out of any show. And there my um digital series um other the two or three other ones would be turned into television shows and mine wouldn't. And I was in a million conversations you know, in closed doors and in on uh conference calls where it was like listen, like they're not doing a show with a white male. like that's just what the situation is. Um if you want to, you know, potentially we could be partnering with someone that isn't white or whatever it is, right? Like the amount of these conversations I have and I go "Yeah, okay." So option one is I can you know, stay there and complain.

1:29:20 Option two is I sort of moved to America and tried to build my own thing. So I of course that sucks. And you know, Tim Allen's getting his show kicked off the air because for no reason when it was a hit. And I've seen this time and time again. I don't remember Jimmy Kimmel standing up for anyone other than himself. Link

1:29:41 for, Jimmy, Kimmel, to, say, him, being, put, on pause for a couple of days was a near-death experience. It made my skin crawl a couple days ago when I saw it because what a slap in the face to men and women who serve this country? What about people who are going through chemotherapy right now? What about people who are on in the hospital about to die? What about those people? And so when I see Jimmy Kimmel going out there and saying he had a near-death experience because his show was off the air for a few days, what a slap in the face to people actually going through things. Number two, Jimmy Kimmel is not funny, right? Jimmy Kimmel has never had a funny joke. He's not a real comedian.

1:30:12 He's a partisan hack. Sort of like Steven Cob Bear, right? He's running what? A $40 million deficit at his show. If you think he was a conservative would they keep him on the air? Absolutely not. But Jimmy Kimmel gets a pass because it's ABC, it's Disney, all the special interests love Jimmy Kimmel. They'll push any pharmaceutical product and do what they have to do on air every single day. But Jimmy Kimmel, it's interesting. You can tell he's lived a charmed life, a pretty easy life because this is the worst thing that's ever happened to him, getting a three or four day vacation

1:30:39 you, know. Then, he, um, made, a, comment, on, stage, in which he ripped on Trump. I don't I don't even totally get it. He called him Donald Jennifer Trump.

1:30:50 Like, what's, what, what, even, is, that?, Is he trying to like say Trump is trans? like is are you allowed to make fun of trans people when you're

1:30:59 right?, I, I'm, not, sure, that's, allowed., Um and then there's the voice of reason Conan O'Brien, who was part of a discussion at the Oxford Union and said this the other day, s 20.

1:31:11 I, think, some comics go the route of I'm going to just say f Trump every all the time or that's their comedy. And I think, well, now a little bit you're being co-opted because you're so angry. You've been lulled. It's like a siren leading you into the rocks. You've been lulled into just saying, "F Trump. F Trump. F Trump. Screw this guy." Um, you know, and I think you've now put down your best weapon, which is being funny and you've exchanged it for anger.

1:31:48 It's, pretty, amazing., He's, clearly, taking aim in particular at the three late night hosts. Fallon less so, but definitely Co Bear and Kimmel and the loser Seth Meyers 100%. Not to mention John Oliver. Um, all of whom do exactly that and only that.

1:32:04 Well,, John, Oliver, I, can't, stand., And about every three or four weeks, John Oliver will put a picture of me up on screen and make fun of me and my liberal friends will text me and say, "John Oliver just called you this and John Oliver called you that." I said, "Why is his staff so concerned with what I have going on? Maybe you guys should go and write some jokes and some good material. But Conan on Brian

1:32:21 Maybe, he, likes, you,, Link. Maybe, there's, someone, in, that, writer room who does because they constantly You're looking good.

1:32:26 Well,, thank, you., You, know,, we You, really, are., You, look, very, handsome. Your new wardrobe. Your hair is looking good. You're very famous now.

1:32:33 Well,, thank, you., But, and, we've, we're we're working on the lighting. Okay. I'm not that ghostly in person. We're going from maybe 4500 Kelvin down to 38. We're working on it, people. So anyway, when it come when it comes to comedians Conan O'Brien is a real one. Conan O'Brien follows me on Instagram. I would love to have him on the podcast to discuss this very issue. All the great comics are going into conservative areas in touring red states now because they go and play these liberal crowds in Los Angeles. You go to like the comedy store, nobody will laugh. Nobody will laugh. You can't. You have to take everything so seriously. It's like we used to have Joan Rivers back in the day and people who could really push the boundaries and push the envelopes and that's what comedy was supposed to be.

1:33:11 Late night comedians weren't supposed to be partisan hacks who were pushing political agendas, right? They were supposed to call out both sides and be funny and boisterous and all of the above. But Jimmy Kimmel, I don't think he'll be on air much longer either. Steven Coar, I think he's already been canned. And the others, does anyone watch? Does anyone care? Not really.

1:33:28 Yeah., I, mean,, of, course,, this, all, turned into like one big Trump bashing session out in Hollywood. We know that. But it's not just on camera. It's behind the camera. When people are auditioning for their roles, they have to make clear they hate Trump if they want to get cast in anything major in Hollywood. Rob Schneider, who's amazing and also a comedian who used to be on Saturday Night Live, knows of what he speaks. And he talked about this just the other day. Take a listen here. S

1:33:56 show, business,, wrong, or, right,, they don't want any controversy. You know they don't want you being mouthy or or anything. And and that that makes sense. But I do think that at a certain point if we're going to have um a society and if we're going to have uh uh continue to have a free society, it's going to require people to step up and be courageous. And you know, this country still allows that. Uh it is our first amendment right. Does it make you free of consequences? No. You just, you know you can ask Jimmy Kimmel who was temporarily fired. It's going to cost you. And I think today's blacklisting of conservatives is the same thing. I think it's uh at its core um it is adding to its destruction. And I think you we are seeing Hollywood completely dismantle itself.

1:34:54 That's, an, interview, with, the, Epic, Times. Right on. Rob Schneider link. Rob, Schneider, has, always, been, a, real one. Rob Schneider, Mike Binder, I don't know if you know him. He's a great comedian as well. On the Kennedy campaign, we put on this big comedy show fundraiser in downtown Los Angeles. Rob Schneider came. He performed. He couldn't have been nicer. I was backstage getting people drinks. I think the comedians were mad we had like water and Gatorade. They're like, "Where are the real drinks?" backstage. We're like "This is a campaign event." So, no, they were like "Where are the real drinks?"

1:35:20 But Rob Schneider, he's always been a real one. And he was and he's not afraid to call out both sides. And that's what comedians are supposed to do. But it's interesting in these writer rooms, the reason Hollywood is going so downhill the reason you can't find anything good to watch on Netflix is they're capitulating to this small but vocal minority, right? Most people, they're kind of in the middle. They want to pay their bills. They want a country that works for them. They're not crazy far-left deranged people, but when you turn on Netflix, they'll ruin every show by throwing in a bunch of characters that don't fit together just to check boxes. Like for me, right, I'm gay.

1:35:53 Obviously, I don't need to see a gay character in every single show. I'll be watching like a historical film and they'll like throw in a gay character sacheing in with a scarf and I'm like this has nothing to do with the film that's going on. So, no, we don't need to check every single box. And even I was having this conversation with some black friends of mine and they're in entertainment. I spoke about this on my podcast. They're like, we don't need to see ourselves in every single film. It's okay to see different stories, but if Hollywood doesn't start recognizing these states they like to fly over between Los Angeles and New York, they fly over and look down on middle America. If they don't prioritize those folks and realize they have checkbooks and wallets too and they're willing to go to the theater if you tell a good story, they're going to get left behind.

1:36:31 And I think that's why Hillbilly Elegy really resonated and Sound of Freedom resonated because they spoke to audience that don't see themselves represented on Netflix or some of these streamers or in movie theaters.

1:36:42 Yeah, I, will, say, JD, a, star, a, huge, star., Go ahead. Absolutely., One, thing, I'll, say, about Amazon Prime and Jeff Bezos is I love that they're putting out the first lady Melania Trump's film. They're open to having pretty much anything on Amazon Prime now. And so I love to see that shift and how things are going. So shout out to Prime. I will say that I can always find something on there.

1:37:01 Hopefully, they're, turning, over, a, new leaf because they they banned Eli and Shelby Steele's documentary, What Killed Michael Brown, a few years back, which was disgusting. But perhaps we've turned over a new leaf now that we're trying to cozy up to Donald Trump. Whatever. We'll take the fairness however we can get it. U, all right,, Lyn,, stand, by, because, I'm going to keep you, if you don't mind. We're going to um keep this rolling. There's a lot more to get to and we just

1:37:23 great, not, enough, time., Uh, but, Link, stays with us and we will be right back with him right after this break. Look, 2026 does not mean reinventing the wheel. Start small. Swap out the garbage snacks for something real like masa chips. It's the noeffort way to eat better without the diet nonsense. Just three little ingredients. Organic corn, sea salt, and grass-fed beef tallow. No seed oils, no chemicals, just real actual food. And these chips taste fantastic. Truly not like those other sad healthy alternatives, that that, feel, like, an assignment. With Masa, you get satisfied, not stuffed. Energized, not sluggish. They have spicy flavors. They have sweet flavors. Plus, fans of Masa should also check out Vandy Crisps their sister brand. Threeingredient potato chips that are legitimately delicious. Ready to give Masa a try? Go to massachips.com/mk.

1:38:18 Use the code MK to get 25% off your first order or simply click the link in the description or scan the QR code to claim this delicious offer. Don't feel like ordering online? Masa is now available nationwide at your local Sprouts supermarket. Stop by, pick up a couple of bags before they're all gone. So link, this is the tale of two parties here. You've got Donald Trump with a very big announcement saying that he is calling for a ban on large institutional investors buying single family homes. This is revolutionary because we've seen these big huge corporate banks buying huge swaths of homes and making it a lot tougher in some instances for regular Joe's to be able to afford them. He truth out on Wednesday, "For a very long time, buying and owning owning a home was considered the pinnacle of the American dream. It was the reward for working hard and doing the right thing.

1:39:10 But now, because of record high inflation caused by Joe Biden and the Dems, the American dreams increasingly out of reach for far too many especially younger Americans. For that reason and much more, I'm immediately taking steps to ban large institutional investors from buying more single family homes, and I will be calling on Congress to codify it. People live in homes, not corporations. I will discuss this topic including further housing and affordability proposals and more at my speech in Davos in two weeks. So, he's worried about home ownership and people not being able to afford them. And he is cracking down in just the right place on these corporate huge banks that try to corner the market, pricing individuals out. Now, let's take a look over at one of the, most, expensive, cities, in, the world, New York City, where we have a new head of tenant housing um named CIA Weaver. And CIA says her goal is to make

1:40:06 housing worth less, not cost less. She's not interested in helping homeowners get home ownership, which she thinks is white supremacy. She's made that clear. The quote was, "It is important to impoverish the white middle class." That's her goal. It is quoting directly. It is important to impoverish the white middle class and homeownership is racist. You see, she doesn't like Donald Trump's plan. She doesn't want to make it easier for people to afford a home. What she wants is for the government to own all the homes and then they will decide where you live and where I live and where everybody else lives. And this can be hung around the neck of Mayor Manny like an albatross because he's made clear Sea speaks for him in a newly unearthed clip. Take a listen here. This is from 2021 ST 27. I would first of all you need to expand rent controls to cover smaller buildings and they need to be rent controlled and the

1:41:04 reason why they need to be rent controlled is not because like rent control is inherently socialist but because rent control limits the speculative value of the land. Like our goal is to have the housing actually be worthless in to some degree, right? Like we don't want this to be an investment vehicle. We want it to be like long-term stable homes. We don't need people to become millionaires off their homes.

1:41:27 You, know,, I, get, most, of, my, knowledge, on housing from CIA. So, if you get it from me, it's just not coming from the source.

1:41:34 That's, not, good. It's, not, good. Your, thoughts, on, CIA, Weaver, and, her media tour this week?

1:41:39 Many, thoughts., First, off,, thank, you, President Trump. Right. When people want to be panic in the GOP right now and say there's a bunch of infighting and this and that, President Trump, this is an issue Republicans can win on in the midterms. It's something Democrats have wanted for years. Independents and folks on the right. We have to stop institutional investors from coming in and buying homes. If you do that and you couple it with mass deportations, maybe young people will be able to have the American dream. So, I'm so happy to see President Trump tackling this because I've said for years, I've shouted it from the rooftops. The thought of owning a home is a distant fantasy for my generation. But it's not just Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and younger folks. I hear from senior citizens. I hear from baby boomers and older who say we're having to be perpetual renters because we can't afford to have homes and these are

1:42:24 people who've served been in America their entire lives paid their dues and paid their taxes. So I'm happy we're going to stop private equity from coming and buying homes. Second, I don't want to hear from Zoran Manni or any of his DEI picks on housing. Okay, reverse racism is still racism. Okay, excluding white people on the basis of their skin color or their background, that is still racism. And I don't know what folks are still doing in New York City. Unless you have to live in New York City, why are you still there? We just saw Zoran Mam Donnie and Kathy Hokll. They lit up all these buildings green for Muslim Pride Month and Muslim Heritage Month. They had the World Trade Center lit up green for Muslim Heritage Month. I'll let you fill in the irony there. We're only 25 years on from 9/11. What happened to Never Forget? Now we're lighting the World Trade Center up for Muslim Pride Month. So, I'm not Islamophobic. I'm

1:43:12 calling it like I see it. If you're still in New York City, if you're still in New York State, I don't know what you are doing, okay? But if you're going to come, if you're going to come to our red states, don't bring your voting record okay? If you're fleeing because of CO Weaver and Mandani, don't come and vote blue in Texas and Florida and all these other states. Just stay there.

1:43:30 Islamophobia, is, not, a, thing., You, are allowed to object to the tenants of Islam. It's a part religion, part political doctrine, and we are perfectly entitled to comment on it favorably or negatively without being called essentially a bigot. Sorry, that's just the way it is. Okay, well, let me keep going because I really want to get your thoughts on Megan Markle's new cookbook. In the same week, we heard that her 11th publicist in five years quit allegedly over the debacle that happened at the Kris Jenner birthday party where they

1:44:04 harassed, the, Kardashians, to, take, down all the photos of Harry and Megan because there was one of Harry learing at Chris Jenner's breasts. That's my speculation. I'm sure that was part of the reason. And Megan didn't look good in the photos. So, they thought we never consented. We want them down. Anyway this publicist said, "I am out of here. I'm not dealing with these two. Then we hear that Megan is releasing her first solo cookbook link in early 2026. It's going to tie her lifestyle brand as ever uh into I guess her cooking. And Daily Mail reports that the book may include recipes for her single skillet spaghetti, which by the way, and rainbow themed fruit salad. Moren Callahan and I made both of those only to find out that the single skillet spaghetti was stolen from Martha Stewart. It's not even her own recipe. It's exactly the same.

1:44:52 There's might be like one tiny difference. So, I wonder whether she's going to get sued for a copyright infringement if she actually tries to pawn that off in a cookbook as her own. Thoughts?

1:45:02 Oh,, I, have, many, thoughts., I, think, the 11th publicist leaving tells us there is real trouble in Paradise. I think the publicist would rather work for like Katie Porter than Megan Markle. I think Katie Porter might be a cakewalk as opposed to Megan Markle. So, I'm not shocked to see the staff leaving. Yeah. And I also think maybe they don't pay the staff that well. I think also they hire a bunch of people to feel important, right? If we have staff, if we have an entourage, we're really important. And then the staff realizes there's not much happening dayto-day.

1:45:29 These aren't people getting up and just hustling from like 8 to 6 every day. There's nothing happening really at the compound. There are days where they don't do much. And so I'm not shocked to see the people leaving. The second thing I'll say is I don't need a cookbook from Megan Markle. She can barely cook. Okay? It's like taking Driver's Ed from Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles. Like you just don't want to take cooking advice from Megan Markle. And then all she can do is she moves pretzels from one bag into another. Okay. That's not skill.

1:45:53 Yeah. Anybody's, about, to, say, something terrible. Is, that, a, recipe?, Can, we, count, that, as, a recipe?

1:45:58 Exactly., Exactly., So,, she, can, only, move pretzels from one bag into another. She makes rainbow fruit platters. Let me also say this. I heard from so many women and mothers who are like, "We don't have time when we're getting our kids ready for school to do rainbow colorcoordinated fruit platters, right? We're trying to get the kids out the door. Is the homework done? Do you have the slip you need for class? Because Megan has staff and rich celebrities in Monaceto and Los Angeles have full-time staffs and nannies. They can get up and leisurely make a rainbow fruit platter.

1:46:25 If I came downstairs as a kid and my mom was making a rainbow fruit platter before school, I would say, "Who died? Are you on speed? What's going on?" Like, I would think something bad had happened if I came down and my mom was whipping up a rainbow fruit platter color coordinated in the morning. I'm like "Has she turned into monk? What's going on?" So, Megan Markle, I think this cookbook is a final grift. Like she's really reaching. I'm sure she'll get a big advance. It'll be great. So happy for her.

1:46:52 Oh,, I, mean,, Moren, and, I,, we, did, the fruit platter and we had somebody do the shopping and it took hours. We're going to drop a clip in here for the podcast listeners.

1:47:02 All, right., So,, this, is, just, what, I, do., I just whip this up in the morning. You could do this with one small row for your kids for breakfast. Ideally, in your white cashmere. It's just fruit. It's just presented in a different way. An early rise might really help like three or four.

1:47:17 There's, a, real, delight, in, being, able, to be a present parent with a nanny. Right. Right. Of course. Of course. You got to be able to just like go with the flow when you're a working mom. They all have to work. We all have a lot of stuff to do. If you literally have 7 hours to devote to your breakfast sherie, you're going to wow them.

1:47:36 This, is, gorgeous., It's, so, sweet. Nailed it. Nailed it. It took hours and we made the spaghetti. The whole thing's a joke. I mean, if she makes money off of that and actually does get a big advance, it it will truly underscore how absurd the publishing industry has become. Um, all right. Last but not least, a clip came to our attention Link Lauren, a clip from your show, and it was about your New Year's resolutions. And we want to show this to the audience in ST 32. If you're feeling bad about not reinventing yourself this year, don't worry. Meghan Markle will debut an entirely new personality company, or life story by February. So she's got us all covered. Really, you're doing fine. And you know, there's always that one friend, okay? There is always that one friend who says, "I'm going to be kinder this year. I'm going to show up. I've changed my ways." Sweetie, you downloaded one Mel Robbins podcast. Cut

1:48:32 the crap. Okay, you bought one self-help book. There's always that one friend who thinks that this is their eat, pray love year. This is the year they're really going to transform and be kinder and be better. And then they're back being a miserable troll in about 5 days. Okay, so listen, I'm not judging. It takes a village. But if you've been a the, last, 20, years,, why, change, now?

1:48:54 Okay,, I, love, it., All, very, good, advice. But later in the show, you asked the audience to weigh in on the sweater.

1:49:03 And, I, would, like, to, officially, do, that and say I'm against it. It has the feel of somebody reaching for like your boob in the movie theater, you know, like it for the listening audience, it's got like what looks like a hand across that sweater that is diagonally green and black and then like a white hand reaching across reaching for like a boob or the shoulder. And therefore, I'm against it because it reminds me of middle school. So, the sweater is not going to be brought back out unless it's a recurring character. Like the wickless candle.

1:49:33 Okay. I keep I keep Megan Markle's wickless candle on my desk because it's a recurring character. I'm glad it doesn't have a sad card. It might start charging me. But no, the sweater is going to stay in the closet and I don't care about looking ridiculous. I thought, "Okay, this is so terrible. I'm going to wear it and let me just ask them how much they hate it." Like a few weeks ago, I wore this insane purple shirt.

1:49:55 And, it, ended, up, being, one, of, our, biggest episodes. I think we got like four or five thousand comments on the episode. Half of them were like, "We like the shirt. We don't like the shirt." And I bought the shirt myself. It's not like anyone sent it to me. I didn't even say the the brand of it. But no, that sweater was a Christmas gift. And you know, on Christmas morning, everybody has related to this, okay? On Hanukkah Quanza, whatever you celebrate, you open a gift and you hate it, but you have to go like, "Oh my god, thank you." Do you turn into an Academy Award-winning actor on Christmas morning? Thank you so much for this sweater. I thought, I don't care if I look ridiculous. I know they're, going to, have, heated, opinions over this sweater.

1:50:30 Here's, what, you, need, to, say, when somebody gives you a gift like that. And and it's I love this line because it's true, but it's also somewhat subversive. Okay, it's and it's not insulting.

1:50:41 I, could, not, love, this, anymore., That's that is what you say when you get the terrible gift. I could not love it anymore. I like it is honestly I couldn't. Trust me, I couldn't. Now, one of the reasons I raised this with you is because we had our own sweatergate here at the MK show. It wasn't didn't play out on the air or with the audience, but it's about to. So every day before we go on um I sit down in the chair and I can see my um executive producer Steve Cracker and my executive producer for news Debbie Murphy on my little Zoom camera which is right underneath my real camera. Sometimes the audience will see me looking not into camera but looking down because on the screen below the camera we play the sound bites and I can see them better because it's a big big camera and I can see Steve and Debbie there and uh so that's helpful for the anchor to just figure out the traffic of the show and what's happening and

1:51:31 sometimes they're talking to me by ear. Anyway, I see them sitting there and I sat down uh mid December getting ready to do a show and Steve Crackour, he's been my EP from the beginning of the show. We've been friends forever for since forever is wearing what to me from this distance, I'm about maybe I don't know 15 feet away from the camera looked like a strapless shirt. It looks st he's he's a heterosexual man. He's very happily married with kids. Look at this. And I I took a picture of this link with my camera. Does it not look like he is naked from the shoulder up in this little screen grab? I don't know if you can see it.

1:52:08 And, there's, Canadian, Debbie, laughing, at him, on, screen., Right., Let's, let's let's run through a few of the a few of the screen grabs if we have them. Um yeah there's another one. And I'm like Steve, what are you wearing? He had no idea. And we were going to have a staff meeting that day. Here's me taking a picture. You can see me in it taking a picture of this.

1:52:27 So,, we, were, going to, have a, staff meeting that day. And I'm going to tell you link that he actually put on a jacket before the staff meeting because we so shamed him out of this ridiculous sweater cuz it was like for the listening audience like peach. I think peach Steve I'm sorry. And then a stripe of blue and then peach and then blue and the peach looked naked like Steve Cracker went strapless for the Megan Kelly show that day.

1:52:52 Does, that, sweater, stay, or, does, it, go? That, goes, in, the, same, bin, as, my, sweater. No, it's got to go. I will say when I stand up the sweater is not as terrible. I think um there's this big fashion account that breaks down like Melania's outfits and Princess Catherine's and we use their stuff all the time and he did a full thing on like where the sweater was from and the full picture and I said I feel like I've kind of made it now because this account is talking about this horrific sweater. But no, it is not coming back out except as like a gag you know, like the candle.

1:53:22 Wait,, Steve,, what, happened, to, the sweater? asking now it's retired. It's it's retired.

1:53:29 Good. Just, took, a, little, good, oldfashioned shaming, you know, like the world has to do what it's going to do. This is why I'm in favor of shaming. This is why I don't like principles screening somebody's validictorian speech. Like if they say something stupid, they have to be subjected to the wrath of the masses out there that teach them the oldfashioned way, what to say, what not to say, what the bounds of society will allow. Um, and so that's laws of natural consequences, which is why, yeah, there should be feedback on sweaters and the like, and we shouldn't be shy about it.

1:54:00 It's it's like a it's our duty as friends. Absolutely., No,, we, need, to, bring, back shame in 2026. I think the girls were getting a little too shameless in 2025. All these thoughts out here and people the way they were behaving. So, we need to bring back a little bit of shame. Like I was at a restaurant the other night and we didn't go out on New Year's but we did like a nice date night fancy restaurant I think on like the second or the third. Some of the outfits walking into the restaurant and it is cold. These girls are wearing nothing. These girls are wearing nothing. And I said do you remember before it was socially acceptable to come to a restaurant with your vagina out like how how are you in here with this outfit? So we need to bring back a little

1:54:37 I, I, don't, want, to, eat, next, to, exposed vag appetizing for any of us. I, know, we're, at, a, Japanese, restaurant., I don't need to see your California role. Like it was there was a lot going on. So I didn't need to see that. Actually, it was confirmation of I'm gay. Anyway

1:54:53 by, the, way,, we, also, should, like, we, got to crack down on the crying men. Have you ever seen so many crying men in the news? Like lot of crying by news men just this week alone. Link, what do you make of that?

1:55:03 It's, interesting, because, on, the, one hand, it's like, okay, nice that a guy can cry every once in a while, but I'm old school. I don't need to see grown men crying all the time. time. I think Kelly Catron, this like publicist in New York, used to have this phrase, if you have to cry, go outside. You know, all these cryb babies in the workplace and there are gen Z's who are bringing their parents to job interviews. Like they're 24 years old bringing their parents in job interviews. Everyone needs to grow up, okay? And man up too, okay? We need more alphas in this world. Like I want Delta Force looking guys. I want those guys who went and snatched up Maduro. I don't want cryb babies who were, you know, I think a lot of these men, and I hate to say it, women might get mad at this, but I was having a conversation with a friend. I think it's social media. Is it the hormones and the chicken? I think men these days like

1:55:46 have a period also. Like men, it's like I see so many guys now it's like my even my girlfriends will be like I think he's on his like man period cuz they're just emotional and angry. It's up and down. It's got to change. It's got to change.

1:55:56 I, just, asked, Jesse, about, this,, Jesse Kelly. I'm like, is it the microplastics? Is it like what is it that the, water, like, the, chemicals, in, the sunscreen? Because I I do miss real men. I want real men. I agree with you. Like Delta Force, that'd be great. Um, but just not crying all the time on camera as a male anchor. I would take that too. That we talked about Tony Dokapool yesterday, the weird crying in a clip that he put out. He put out. He wanted us to see him cry. That's what's so weird. It's even worse than the Philip Bump thing we just showed because at least he was live on the air. Tony Dokapool was in a taped interview with somebody and like started to tear up about the fact that he didn't get to grow up in Miami.

1:56:32 So,, it, wasn't, like, I, said, like, the, whole family died in a houseire. Not that. No it was I didn't get to live there. Um repeatedly wiping the eye and then the other eye and then back to the first eye and back to the other eye and like choking up in the throat and couldn't get the words out. It was embarrassing. But I will tell you, I did get a little insight on on what he's doing last night. All right, we played this clip yesterday. So, it was from the day before.

1:56:56 Then, last, night, he, went, out, and, tried, to, do, a, little summary of what's happening in Minneapolis. Okay

1:57:02 like, I, guess, this, is, going, to, be, his thing. And I realized something about his thing that put the crying in perspective. Watch. Watch what he did last night.

1:57:12 But, our, job, now, is, maybe, the, most American thing of all. It's to find a way to live with people who are genuinely different from us. To try to be fair to them and in doing so to make things better and keep things decent. Because in America, no one else is going to do it for us. It's not my job to tell you what to think about what happened here yesterday, but I can tell you we owe our children a nation that is better than the one we live in today. And I can say that because we all know it's true.

1:57:45 Okay., So,, what's, happening, here,, Link, is he's trying to be Oprah right? That, now, it, all, makes, sense., He's, trying to offer fake profoundities that move no one and are actually not original or meaningful at all. and peppering in some like self-help talk, you know, kumbaya hugging type stuff

1:58:05 in, between, his, crying, fits,, right? Because, he's, telegraphing, Oprah., He's Topra. That's that's what he's trying to do with the CBS Evening News. And like Oprah's show now these days, it will fail. I like this is no way to appeal I think he wants American women because we all like the Delta Force thing that only far-left liberal women like a crying topra right and men certainly don't like that but I figured out the formula and this is apparently the new bet on the future of CBS News thoughts on that

1:58:42 well, it's, interesting, I, think, it's, a generational thing because I don't really know who a lot of these people are when I see these Palace Intrigue stories about all of these networks now I'm like I actually don't know who these people are. I wish you guys well, but I just have never heard of some of these anchors and even my friends like we don't know who this is either. So, you know, shout out to everyone over there. I wish them well. But a friend of mine gave me advice years ago. She said, "If you want to be taken seriously in politics, you cannot cry on camera."

1:59:05 Like, if you lose an election especially as a woman, you can't cry at your concession speech. Hillary Kamla. Okay. Doug Mhof. So, it's like if you ever want to be taken seriously, you cannot cry on camera. I don't need to see grown men crying. You know, maybe after sex with a cigarette, but no, I don't want to see you on camera cry.

1:59:21 Not, that, either, either., Nowhere, around sex should a man ever cry. No I, have, to, call, my, mom, afterward., No,, I'm just kidding. Um, but yeah. No, I don't need to see grown men cry. And I really don't need to see a ton of women either.

1:59:35 We, have, to, run, it, again., Can, we, run, the crying video just to get like I I need to see it just before we go to weekend.

1:59:40 You, said, this, is, your, favorite, place, in the world. Why? Why South Florida and Miami? Uh

1:59:49 what, it, makes, me, emotional., It's, so funny. I I didn't mean I didn't think it would catch it, you know. Cuz you only have one childhood, right? So, let me get a second.

2:00:04 Okay, I, can, relate., This, is, home. The, wiping people, to, to, help, people, understand, why I have such a reaction. Yeah, help us.

2:00:17 More, wiping. Uh,, Florida, is, where, I, grew, up. Oh, we, didn't, get, a, lot, of, sleep., So,

2:00:28 we're, wiping. Yeah,, my, grandmother's, here., My, father, my mother my, aunts, and, uncles,, cousins,

2:00:35 and, it's, where, I, would, have, spent, all, of my childhood, but we left uh, because, my, father, got, into, trouble with business. This is like we laugh about it now, but he was a drug dealer. But the reason it's so emotional for me

2:00:47 okay, is, because I, feel, like, I, was, robbed, at, the, full Miami, experience.

2:00:55 Mhm. So, when, I, come, back,, I'm, always, like he, was, he, was, robbed, of, the, full, Miami experience. link. That is like you and me going down there and forgetting to have a cocktail poolside in the 24 hours we have on business. That's a conversation we we didn't get the full Miami experience, but he's crying about it 40 years later and then tweeting out the clip because he wants us to see how topra he is.

2:01:23 Yeah., No,, I, all, I, can, say, is, I, don't think you guys will ever see me crying on camera. Even if I discuss something serious or sad, there's a high probability that I hold it together and I don't need to see grown men crying on the news either. I think these networks should just focus on reporting the news right? Focus on telling us what's going on. We actually don't need all the ancillary information and anecdotes right? I used to watch the news and I didn't know anything about their personal lives. Just tell me what's happening in the country.

2:01:49 What, if, um, Megan, Markle, and, Prince, Harry get accepted back into the royal family and somehow he becomes king? I think you shed a tear. I would.

2:01:59 First, off,, I, think, the, British, people would would revolt. Number two, Prince Harry is lazy, so he wouldn't last but two days. I don't think that'll ever ever ever happened. But maybe I would shed a tear then if he was let if he becomes royal again before me because apparently there is some open vacancy like you know some of the members are dropping. They're losing their title. So if he becomes royal again before I do I'm going to be real upset. I've paid my dues. I've done their PR.

2:02:23 All right., Well,, I, I'm, going, to, there could be a debate about whether if you wear that sweater again, tears will be shed at some place on the internet, but we'll wait and see. We will tune in to Spot-On with Link Lauren and wait for the day. Thank you, my friend.

2:02:35 Thank you, so, much., Thank, you. Great, to, see, you., Okay,, go, and, get Link's great content by subscribing. Go to spotonwithlink.com and find it on YouTube and all podcast platforms. Have a great weekend everyone.

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