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Megyn Kelly Breaks Down What Jeffrey Epstein Has REALLY Said About Donald Trump to Michael Wolff

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Megyn Kelly Breaks Down What Jeffrey Epstein Has REALLY Said About Donald Trump to Michael Wolff", an episode of Megyn Kelly published November 13, 2025 (18 min, about 2,550 words). It mentions 22 people, works and ideas, including Jeffrey Epstein, The Daily Beast, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, Sex trafficking, MK show.

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 3:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Sex trafficking, MK show
  2. – 6:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, Election interference, Presidential election
  3. – 9:00: Jeffrey Epstein, The Daily Beast, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House
  4. – 12:00: Jeffrey Epstein
  5. – 15:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Mara Lago
  6. – 17:57: Jeffrey Epstein, Birch Gold Group, Central Bank, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House

Notable quotes from "Megyn Kelly Breaks Down What Jeffrey Epstein Has REALLY Said About Donald Trump to Michael Wolff"

  • We begin today with Jeffrey Epstein convicted felon, pervert, abuser of women, and yes, at one point, a long time ago, friend of Donald Trump. Epste also met with people like Katie Kurrick.
    about Jeffrey Epstein · at
  • We've been covering the Epstein case for years here at the MK show, long before it was a Trump witch hunt, and many of the names surfacing in these emails that are hitting the public eye are familiar to us. Given that Epstein is back in the.
    about MK show · at
  • Wolfe released one short excerpt of the tapes and also gave left-wing media outlet The Daily Beast access to nearly 2 hours of the tapes. He also confirmed publicly at that…
    about The Daily Beast · at
  • Donald Trump before the vote. The Trump campaign at the time called the move election interference. Wol said on that show that he Wolf had become an outlet for Epstein, quote…
    about Election interference · at
  • He is charming. He is able to convince people. It's very much like Clinton.
    about Bill and Hillary Clinton · at
  • Keep in mind this is a man Epstein who is known as a liar, prolific liar. He was reportedly thrown out of Mara Lago by Donald Trump after pursuing young women there and whose…
    about Mara Lago · at
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  • Sex trafficking — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
    Epste's back in the news this week, 6 years after he died in prison, awaiting trial on charges of sex trafficking minors. In the never- ending quest to finally know everything…
  • Presidential election — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Portion of one of his tapes. Thing is this was October 31st, 2024, 6 days before the presidential election. News was at a fever pitch, and Wol's planned October surprise landed…
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Full transcript with timestamps

We begin today with Jeffrey Epstein convicted felon, pervert, abuser of women, and yes, at one point, a long time ago, friend of Donald Trump. Epste also met with people like Katie Kurrick George Stephanopoulos, the Dollaly Lama reportedly many, many others who are not guilty of crimes just because they spent some time with the criminal Epstein. Epste's back in the news this week, 6 years after he died in prison, awaiting trial on charges of sex trafficking minors. In the never- ending quest to finally know everything there is to know about Jeffrey Epste and his dastardly deeds, the House Oversight Committee subpoenaed Epstein's estate for his emails and related documents. And lo and behold, they got them. Now, every media outlet known to man is reporting on every word Ebstein penned related to Donald Trump in a mad search to tie the president to the disgraced financiers's sexual crimes. So far, it hasn't worked.

But this is a pathetic and blatant piece of proof that these people don't care at all about sex trafficking victims. The media cares about one thing and one thing only. Getting Donald Trump. And this effort to turn the Epstein story into the Trump story completely undermines the actual search for truth when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein. which is why many of us resent these Johnny come latelys from finally getting interested in the story. We've been covering the Epstein case for years here at the MK show, long before it was a Trump witch hunt, and many of the names surfacing in these emails that are hitting the public eye are familiar to us. Given that Epstein is back in the news, we thought now would be the perfect time to bring you an update on a story we first told you about nearly 2 years ago. You may remember way back in January 2024 I said something on this show that went viral. I said I believed we would be

hearing from Jeffrey Epstein directly sometime soon. We're not done with Jeffrey Epste. I can tell you that for a fact. Can't tell you how I know, but I can tell you for a fact, we're, going to, hear, a, lot, more about Jeffrey Epstein in the coming year. Uh, and you may be even hearing from him directly. More on that as I'm allowed to tell you. I later clarified because some people misunderstood that I was not implying Epstein was still alive, just that I knew there were tapes of the man and I had reason to believe they would be made public soon. And the reason I knew that was I've heard some of them. You see author Michael Wolf has tapes of Jeffrey Epstein, hours and hours and hours of tapes. Tapes he was shopping around. And it was clear to me then and now. It was only a matter of time before they were published. 11 months after my prediction that we would hear tapes of Jeffrey Epstein, we did. Michael Wolf himself

played and allowed to be played a small portion of one of his tapes. Thing is this was October 31st, 2024, 6 days before the presidential election. News was at a fever pitch, and Wol's planned October surprise landed with a complete thud. Even he admitted that. That week Wolfe released one short excerpt of the tapes and also gave left-wing media outlet The Daily Beast access to nearly 2 hours of the tapes. He also confirmed publicly at that time that he has up to 100 hours of tape of Jeffrey Epstein. A clip here from Wol's podcast, Fire and Fury, October 31st, 2024.

I, had, many, secret, sources,, but, this, was a particular secret source. Quite, particular., It, was, Trump's, old friend Jeffrey Epstein. That Jeffrey Epstein. I think we have a snippet from one of the conversations that I recorded with Epstein and I think this was in a restaurant in 2017.

His, people, fight, each, other, right? Uh, and, then, have, outsiders., He, sort, of poisons the well outside. He will tell 10 people Bannon's a scumbag and priest is not doing a good job and Kelly has a big mouth. What do you think? Jamie Diamond says, "You're a problem and I shouldn't keep you." And I spoke to Carl Icon and Carl thinks I need a new spokesperson. So, Kelly even though I hired Kellyanne's husband, Kellyanne is just too much of a wild.

And, then, he, tells, Bannon,, you, know,, I really want to keep you, but Kellyanne hates you.

I, have, more, than, dozens., I, I, probably have a hundred hours of Epstein talking about the inner workings of the Trump White House and about his longstanding deep relationship with Donald Trump.

An, unflattering, excerpt, about, Donald Trump, not a huge surprise as Wolf is clearly not a fan of Trump's. Uh he wrote a scathing biography about Donald Trump in 2018 called Fire and Fury. While Trump cooperated with the book for some reason people keep cooperating with Michael Wolf. They always wind up unhappy. Uh Trump attacked it as soon as it hit, criticizing its author and alleging that it was full of lies. Lies. The podcast Wolf released on October 31st, 2024 seemed a clear effort to hurt Donald Trump before the vote. The Trump campaign at the time called the move election interference. Wol said on that show that he Wolf had become an outlet for Epstein, quote, to express his incredul about someone whose sins he knew so well and then this person actually being elected president. Wol described Epstein as quote utterly preoccupied with Trump. Epstein was, Wol said, quote, I think frankly afraid of

him. As mentioned, Wolf shared more of his secret tapes at this same time with media site The Daily Beast, 1 hour and 44 minutes. In fact, The Beast reporting on November 2nd, 2024, 3 days before the election, that it had listened to this tape and provided many, many details from it in its reporting, including two excerpts. Its piece began, quote Epstein painted a complicated portrait of Trump. He called him charming and always fun, capable of extraordinary salesmanship. But he alleged Trump was a serial cheat in his marriages and loved to quote, "F the wives of his best friends." Epstein, the Daily Beast claimed, could be heard on these tapes alleging that while Trump had friends he was at heart, quote, "a friendless man incapable of kindness." asked by Michael Wolf how Epstein knew all of this, Epstein responds, quote, "I was Donald's closest friend for 10 years."

Epstein says on the tape, per the beast that Trump had an elaborate scheme to procure sex with his friend's wives and goes into detail about how Mr. Trump allegedly did this supposedly by getting the husband to agree on the phone to cheat on his wife with a young woman that Trump would procure while the wife was secretly listening to that conversation. Then Epstein reportedly claims that Trump would say to the wife "See, he's a bad guy. Why not consider sex with me?" This is a story Wol had already told in his 2018 book, Fire and Fury, and which the beast effectively verified was sourced to Jeffrey Epstein.

Here is an excerpt published from the tapes by the Daily Beast of Epstein. So,, how, do, you, know, this?

I, thought, that, was, closest,, right? So,, I, need, the, I, need, the, um, the, D., Just give me a scalp reduction. because he had the same mail. He had his scout Donald's offices, you know, he he made that he used to be on the phone that fake PR. I was kind of funny. I was sitting there listening to the guys from the post talk would say, you know, he's a great guy. You know, I loved working with him. And I sit there and this is just amazing. He'd say, "Michael, come on. Let's go to the office." And he said, "Tell me what it's like.

What's it like to be there?" He said "You know you like having sex with your wife. How often do you say it's great? How seriously right now? How often we have sex? I mean, don't you want we can you and I can go up, you know, upstairs or tomorrow, come over. There's this girl coming in from Los Angeles, part of the what's it called? Wantropic uh so come over 3:00. You're going to have a great time. I promise you, Michael. You know, it's just me and you. You're going to have a great time. Be up here at 3:00 with stairs.

The whole time you have to return on his on the phone listening setting it up because he wants come on you must she have you ever had you must have had a better wife right yes tell and the wife are the speaker listen you know I know you I think you're really hot and I know you think you're a guy Michael is like the end of the world the best guy on Go read, you'll know. Just listen. Set you up. Okay, that was kind of hard to hear. If you go to our YouTube channel youtube.com/megan Kelly, you'll see it transcribed on the screen at 10 after the hour. So, go 10 minutes into our YouTube show and it posts later. Um, but it was in essence exactly what I said in the setup. It was him using Michael Wolf who he was talking to as the example of how Trump might do this. You, Michael your wife Victoria, she's secretly listening. Oh, you must have had sex with people other than your wife. Tell me what that was about while the wife

was allegedly listening. And then the end pivot to like, hey wife, here I am. That's basically what Epstein was alleging Trump used to do. On the tape Epstein also can be heard attacking Trump's intelligence and his character. Here is the second excerpt published by the beast last November.

So, just, tell, me, about, his, intelligence with respect to real estate deals. Brilliant.

Brilliant. He's, a, salesman., He, knows, real, estate really well. anything else but that he knows nothing. No no strategy. It's not to say about executive function. executive says and it's strange because construction by definition is just that first you have the foundation you have steel going up what stage but in terms of his anything but real estate he can't figure out if I fire Batman what happened to me no so cause and effect he has no that has no, relationship, in, it, in in, analytic intelligence

now, what's, this, thing, about, about, that that functionally he can't read or he doesn't read or

he, doesn't, he, certainly, he, certainly can't read the balance sheet which, is, funny has no idea he doesn't read page six

he, reads, So, he's, not, functioning deliterate. But is reading comprehension of anything complicated? Now what's other than he has a a a he has a sense of humor. He can be funny.

Right. What, else, recommends, it? his ability to sell. He is charming. He is able to convince people. It It's very much like Clinton. Both Bill and Donald have the ability to go over to a fat, ugly woman, say, "You are the most beautiful thing I've ever seen." So he tells everybody what they want to hear. not evidence and I'm telling you that I know four or five people who have recently seen him horrible human being in, Jeff, he he, does, nasty, things, to, his best friends best friends wives anyone who he first tries to gain your trust and then uses it bad things that's that's how it goes Keep in mind this is a man Epstein who is known as a liar, prolific liar. He was reportedly thrown out of Mara Lago by Donald Trump after pursuing young women there and whose friendship with Trump was ended by Trump. Wolf claimed on his Halloween 2024 podcast that Ebstein actually blamed Trump for Ebstein's growing legal troubles. It

started when the two men both attempted to purchase a Florida mansion. Trump had the higher bid and got the property. Listen here to the fire.

So, Epstein, was, pissed,, of, course,, and, he began to threaten lawsuits and he began to threaten press exposure. I mean, he was really, really, really pissed when those guys lose a dream house.

Yeah., And, that, was, the, point, at, which Epstein's own legal problems, the problems with the girls began. And certainly in Epstein's telling, this all happened because it was Trump who first dropped a dime on him.

Oh,, is, that And, Trump, would, have, known, about, the girls because he was in and out of Epstein's house. Yeah. when Epstein and I were talking about this and Trump was now the president of the United States.

So,, the, version, of, Epstein, talking, to Michael Wolf appears to be a jolted friend who blames his legal troubles on Trump. Don't forget they started back in 2008 when he was accused of of soliciting sex from a minor and who has watched his hated ex-friend become president of the United States. The Trump campaign when all these allegations were published, the tapes and the Michael Wolf podcast right before he was elected president again the Trump campaign in 24 denied all of these allegations, attacking Michael Wolf as quote, "a disgraced writer who routinely fabricates lies in order to sell fiction books because he clearly has no morals or ethics." When Fire and Fury, the book came out six years before this October surprise, the White House called it trashy tabloid fiction, saying it was filled with false and misleading accounts.

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Questions about this episode

What is discussed in "Megyn Kelly Breaks Down What Jeffrey Epstein Has REALLY Said About Donald Trump to Michael Wolff"?

In order: 0:00 Jeffrey Epstein, Sex trafficking, MK show; 3:00 Jeffrey Epstein, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, Election interference, Presidential election; 6:00 Jeffrey Epstein, The Daily Beast, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House; 9:00 Jeffrey Epstein; 12:00 Jeffrey Epstein, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Mara Lago; 15:00 Jeffrey Epstein, Birch Gold Group, Central Bank, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House.

What is mentioned in this Megyn Kelly episode?

22 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Jeffrey Epstein, The Daily Beast, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, Sex trafficking, MK show, Presidential election. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Megyn Kelly Breaks Down What Jeffrey Epstein Has REALLY Said About Donald Trump to Michael Wolff"?

The episode runs 18 min; the transcript is about 2,550 words in 29 timestamped sections.

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