NEW Note to Guthrie Family and Video Message Response About "Celebrate" and "Peace," w/ Brian Entin

What this episode is about

The report details a coordinated visit by deputies and private security to Annie's house, where they spent three hours gathering evidence, suggesting a planned arrangement with the Guthrie family. The investigation remains murky, particularly regarding the family's whereabouts during this inspection and the nature of the evidence collected.

Key takeaways

• Showbiz or crime scene? When NBC visits with blue gloves, it's not just a press preview.
• Three hours inside Annie's house suggests the truth is more complex than a news cycle.
• Savannah's silence says it all: media respects family wishes, but drama may lurk beneath the surface.
• Surveillance footage isn't just for show; it holds the key to unveiling who’s really involved.
• Inexperienced detectives raise alarms: can a fresh-faced crew handle a case that demands seasoned insight?

Who speaks in this episode?

• Megyn Kelly (Guest) · 7 min speaking
• Brian Entin (Guest) · 11 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Savannah Guthrie, NY, Ashley Banfield
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Nancy Guthrie, Puma County, FBI, NY
3. 6:00 – 9:00: Birch Gold Group, Gold, text MK to 989898, Apple Watch
4. 9:00 – 12:00: Savannah Guthrie, Nancy Guthrie, Bitcoin
5. 12:00 – 15:00: Apple Watch, Savannah Guthrie
6. 15:00 – 18:00: FBI, Kol, TMZ

Notable quotes from "NEW Note to Guthrie Family and Video Message Response About "Celebrate" and "Peace," w/ Brian Entin"

• Yeah, Megan. it kind of came out of nowhere. I was over at NY's house, which is about 10 minutes away, and I got a call like something's going down at Annie's house, so I raced over here.

  about NY · at 0:05

• They were here. Savannah was at this house early last week with her sister, her sister's husband, and Cameron was here also. And this is where they filmed the first video because we.

  about Savannah Guthrie · at 1:30

• And all I can tell you is that I have reason to believe Ashley Banfield was on to something. I don't know that he did this, but I do believe her reporting that they are taking a very serious look.

  about Ashley Banfield · at 3:09

• Close to NY's house. It's right around the corner from Annie's house. And it's it's where it's positioned is where you would have to drive to go from NY's house to Annie's…

  about Circle K · at 3:57

• That may tell us some unfortunate things. Here's the other thing I want to know. the Sunday discovery that Nancy was missing allegedly came down to someone at her church noticing she wasn't there and calling the family which then sent the.

  about Nancy Guthrie · at 5:26

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  about Birch Gold Group · at 7:58

• In the first note that was so alarming to the FBI. There's two things. One, the location of the Apple Watch inside NY's room was very specific. And the other thing is they…

  about Apple Watch · at 13:07

• Kol, which is where both notes went, that it wasn't submitted through like an email. It came through a news tips form that you fill out on the website of, you know what I mean?…

  about Kol · at 15:02

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Savannah Guthrie — Person · Referenced public figure; family spokesperson (via video) and NBC anchor · 5 mentions · first at 1:30
  Discussed as controlling/impacting NBC coverage; appears in a family video addressing the note and payment.
• Nancy Guthrie — Person · Missing victim referenced in the investigation · 3 mentions · first at 5:30
  Her disappearance triggers the church-related timeline questions and the alleged ransom/note narrative.
• Ashley Banfield — Person · Referenced journalist whose reporting is debated · 2 mentions · first at 2:45
  Her reporting is cited as suggesting Tomas may be a prime suspect; host/guest weigh credibility and implications.

Companies & orgs

• FBI — Company · Investigative agency · 2 mentions · first at 5:06
  Involved in the investigation of the case discussed in the podcast
  I don't know because while they suggested it was a joint investigation at the Thursday presser FBI Puma County my understanding is it's Puma County running herd on this that…
• Kol — Company · Media outlet · 1 mention · first at 15:01
  Media outlet that received notes related to the case
• Circle K — Company · Business location · 1 mention · first at 3:51
  Gas station near the scene of the events discussed
• Better Business Bureau — Company · Rating agency · 1 mention · first at 8:35
  Mentioned in the context of Birch Gold Group's credibility
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Products & tech

• Apple Watch — Product · Investigative detail referenced in the note · 4 mentions · first at 6:42
  Cited as a highly specific detail in the first note (location in NY's room), used to argue the author had inside knowledge.

Concepts & topics

• Gold — Concept · Investment topic · 2 mentions · first at 7:58
  Discussed as a valuable investment during economic uncertainty
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• Bitcoin — Concept · Payment method · 1 mention · first at 9:43
  Mentioned as a potential payment method in the case
  But they've had no proof of life. They don't know whether these people actually have their mom. And so do we believe that they're actually going to pay $6 million in Bitcoin?…

Places & events

• NY — Place · Setting · 2 mentions · first at 0:07
  Location where part of the events discussed in the podcast took place
• Puma County — Place · Setting · 2 mentions · first at 4:25
  Location where investigative activities are taking place
  I don't know because while they suggested it was a joint investigation at the Thursday presser FBI Puma County my understanding is it's Puma County running herd on this that…
• Pilar County — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at 4:25
  Location mentioned in relation to law enforcement experience
  Sheriff and then another sheriff came back and it's it's been a mess there. but he was telling me that in his 20 years there he never they never once administered a polygraph.…

Media & podcasts

• TMZ — Media · Media outlet · 1 mention · first at 15:14
  Media outlet involved in receiving notes related to the case
  Both notes. that went to Kol at least. I don't know if it's the same with TMZ. So, it I think that makes it harder to track. And they used, a scrambler for the IP address because it was different IP addresses both times. so if they, I.

Sponsors

• Birch Gold Group — Company · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at 8:08
  Company advertised during the podcast for gold investment services
• text MK to 989898 — Product · Sponsor call-to-action (Birch Gold Group lead-gen offer) · 1 mention · first at 8:28
  Explicit ad read instructing listeners to text a keyword to receive a free gold/IRA information kit.
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Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 Can you set the scene for us on Saturday night? What happened at Annie's home? Yeah, Megan. Uh, it kind of came out of nowhere. I was over at NY's house, which is about 10 minutes away, and I got a call like something's going going down at Annie's house, so I raced over here. This is Annie's house behind me. And, uh, when I got here, there were three deputies that had just arrived. Uh, they they have private security here. NBC hired private security, I'm told. And it seemed coordinated cuz the security guard just moved out of the way, let the three deputies in. Uh, and they had blue gloves on. They had some camera equipment that was in a case. They went inside. Uh, and they were inside for 3 hours. They closed all the blinds. I could see them taking pictures. Yeah, there you go. Right. That's some of the stuff they brought out. Um, I could see them taking pictures uh in the garage.

0:47 You could see a flash from a camera and then you could see them move throughout the house to other parts of the house because you could see the flash from the camera uh coming from from around the blinds.

0:57 H and it took about 3 hours. Yeah, they were inside for 3 hours uh and then they packed up and they left. They didn't say a word. And NBC is reporting today uh that it was consensual that I guess it was worked out with the family that they were going to show up which really doesn't surprise me because again just it didn't seem you know it seemed like they knew they were coming. The security guard moved out of the way. They knew how to get into the house. There's no one at the house right now so they went in on their own and it all seemed like very coordinated.

1:26 Brian, where's the family? It's a good question. Um we don't know. They were here. Savannah was at this house early last week with uh her her sister, her sister's husband, and Cameron was here also. And this is where they filmed the first video because we saw them bring the ring light and the tripod in. And somehow they they left without anyone really noticing. Um and it's interesting there were more security guards here, specifically hired by NBC when Savannah was here. there were three security guards and then when she left uh now there's only one security guard just sort of keeping an eye on the house and you know telling people to stay back.

2:02 Well, it's interesting to to watch NBC um in the mornings on the Today Show to see what they're reporting on this case because there's no question in my mind it will have been blessed by Savannah. There's zero doubt that they are asking her are you comfortable with this? Are you okay? they they would not want to upset her or report get out ahead of their skis or go someplace where she didn't want it. And they were the ones who broke the news that the search of Annie's home was consensual as opposed to, you know, via search warrant. So, to me, I I'm deducing, though I can't confirm it as an independent fact, that she doesn't want it looking like her sister or anybody living in that home like the the brother-in-law are in any way in trouble. Um, but that does not jive with Ashley Banfield's reporting uh about them considering Annie's husband Tomas and that he may quote be a may be a a prime suspect in this case. Um,

3:01 we're still investigating that too, Brian. Uh, and whether the brother is coming under brother-in-law is coming under the scrutiny of law enforcement. And all I can tell you is that I have reason to believe Ashley Banfield was on to something. I don't know that he did this, but I do believe her reporting that they are taking a very serious look at him. And um he's been out of the picture. I mean, he has not been in any of the videos. Has he been seen at all, Brian?

3:27 He hasn't been seen since I think it was Tuesday of last week. We got some photos of him outside the house here. He's very recognizable with this big beard. Um, and he was outside with his wife, Savannah's sister, Annie, and they were in the car together. But it's been it's now been almost a week. And something else interesting, you mentioned how they uh went the the authorities went and and retrieved the surveillance video from the gas station and that they were looking for someone. That gas station is a Circle K and it's right around the corner from Annie's house. It's not close to NY's house. It's right around the corner from Annie's house. And it's it's where it's positioned is where you would have to drive to go from NY's house to Annie's house, which I think is really interesting. It's literally like 1 minute away from here.

4:12 Here's what I want to know. Um I want to know whether anybody's been asked to give and or has given a polygraph. Not a peep about that. Is that correct? No one's saying a word.

4:23 Not a word. I interviewed yesterday uh a former homicide detective for Pima County uh who was there for 20 years and is now retired. And it's interesting what you were reporting in the beginning of your show. I mean, he says the same exact thing that the there's been so much turnover there that it's a mess at the sheriff's office. Uh and that most of the homicide detectives have like two years experience. And so he's concerned a lot of the veterans like him have left just because they've been upset with the with the department for different reasons. and there was a different sheriff and then another sheriff came back and it's it's been a mess there. Uh but he was telling me that in his 20 years there he never they never once administered a polygraph. That wasn't something that they did as a sheriff's office ever, not even once. But I Yeah, I know. But I don't know if now that the FBI is involved,

5:08 you know, maybe they would be doing that. I don't know because while while they suggested it was a joint investigation at the Thursday presser FBI Puma County um my understanding is it's Puma County running herd on this that it's their investigation their running point and so that that may tell us some some unfortunate things. Here's the other thing I want to know. Um the the Sunday discovery that Nancy was missing uh uh allegedly came down to someone at her church noticing she wasn't there and calling the family which then sent the family to NY's home which led to the discovery of the crime scene however it looked. They haven't really told us what was inside the home. Um the Daily Mail and you also we talked about this last week reporting that Nancy Guthrie was actually attend was no longer attending the church that they said she was and that in fact she'd been going virtual for the past 5 years since co that she'd

6:06 been she'd been participating in the live stream that this church offers. Um leading us to ask how would anybody have noticed that she wasn't on the live stream because it's not like a a Zoom where you can see people joining. Now, we did actually try to join it this weekend and realize that there's a chat. You can join a chat. So, it is possible that somebody was in the chat. I look, maybe there's my own bias. The thought of my my mom not only joining a live stream who's 84, but actually then getting in the church chat during the mass and chatting like it's it's an impossibility. But maybe Nancy got through a lot more techsavvy than my 84year-old mom. Could be. She had an Apple Watch. Um, so, so I want to know whether the investigators have tracked down the alleged parishioner who made the who who's purported to have made the phone call. Brian, do we know whether that's happened?

6:57 It it hasn't happened from what we know. And that's been one of the strange things about this is we've all me and then all of my other colleagues, we all talk about it out on the street. We've all been trying to figure out this church element. Everybody has been to the church. Everybody has talked to the pastor and the pastor has said that she went to the church but that she hasn't come back in person since since co that she goes virtually and no one seems to know that she went to another church and the church over the weekend at their service you know the pastor talked about Nancy and it appears that's the church she goes to and what I thought was interesting Megan is at the last press conference the sheriff never brought up the church again. It's almost like he said that the first time right after this happened but then no one ever talks about the church anymore. So I don't know. You know, the sheriff made a lot

7:39 of weird off-the cuff remarks and mistakes. Like, I don't know if that's just something he said initially, and now there's another reason that the family was concerned that has nothing to do with the church. U I just don't know.

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9:05 Okay, which is not actually a yes. That that's not actually yes at all. It's actually kind of disconcerting and it yet another thing that either they do need to do or they've done and he's just not telling us. We we don't we don't know. So, Brian, what about today? the the deadline now for this 5:00 pm $6 million payment is looming and the Savannah and Siblings video from the other night said we will pay. It said we we'll pay.

9:36 Yeah. But they've had no proof of life. They don't know whether these people actually have their mom. And so do we believe that they're actually going to pay $6 million in Bitcoin? like has has any law enforcement spoken to this or shed any light on what the next step should be?

9:53 Yeah, I mean they said Savannah said they will pay. Whether they end up doing it um we don't know. And it's interesting you mentioned the local affiliate was reporting I think you said it was 1 million and 6 million. That's a little different than what I've learned. I learned it was 4 million and 6 million and 4 million was the first uh deadline on Thursday at 5:00 p.m. and 6 million is the deadline today. But that was in the first note. Um, and the second note, while we don't know exactly what it says, there are some indications that it, you know, based on what Savannah said in her video, the second note may have alluded to Nancy not being okay.

10:30 Um, and that that's why I'm hearing they're not calling it a ransom note. They're just calling it a note. And there was no demand for payment in the second note. It was just a message to the family. It wasn't like and you can still pay this amount by this time. So, I don't And is and also is there a third note that we just don't know about. Um, but that's the other thing I've been wondering. Maybe they're just not reporting on it yet and and Savannah's video is responding to to a third note.

11:00 I I wonder the same because some of the messaging is so like controlled and calculated. It almost seems like they're saying something they were Can we watch the Savannah video one more time? Let's just watch it one more time. We we received your message and we understand. We beg you now to return our mother to us so that we can celebrate with her. This is the only way we will have peace. This is very valuable to us and we will pay.

11:38 So, first of all, it's incredibly grim. They're all very grim-faced. There's nothing about their expressions that telegraphs they've gotten any sort of hopeful news. We understand. She says, "We understand in a sad like contemplative way. We beg you." She's begging them now. Um saying, "Give us our mother back so we can celebrate with her." Again, that word celebrate sticks out like a sore thumb. And it's the only way we'll have peace which is another word associated with I think people who are you know grieving having a settlement of the grief even if it's a sad settlement but just a settlement like you know what's what's happened and you and you can be at peace with it. To me that's what she was telegraphing. But you're right we don't know what was in the note. Wait, but Brian, the the $4 million would make more sense to me than four and six makes more sense to me than one in six because I have to tell you,

12:32 you know, I've had this conversation behind the scenes with a few different people.

12:36 Let's face it, a million dollars is not much for Savannah Guthrie. That's she can lose that easily and not really even feel it. So, like if that were the initial demand, I think they would have just paid it. They would have just paid it on Thursday. Four million is a different that's a different I mean that's a lot more.

12:56 Yeah. And I'm confident in in my reporting the person who I spoke to saw the note him himself. So uh I'm sure it was 4 million and 6 million. And I can't remember if I talked to you about this last time but the other thing that was in the first note that was so alarming to the FBI. There's two things. One, the location of the Apple Watch inside NY's room was very very specific. And the other thing is they specifically referenced a damaged smashed flood light in the backyard uh which has since been removed up on the back of NY's house which which is smashed. So those two things were spoton in the first note which appears to be why they've been taking all of this so seriously.

13:38 But Brian, don't you think like Okay, so the flood light is is visible from the outside. you know, people were crawling all over the property and especially, you know, Monday. I think the first notes came Tuesday. So, you would have just had to see it on sometimes Sunday or Monday. Um, or prior to that, you know, potentially you could have seen it prior to that if you were a contractor taking advantage of the P family's pain here and you'd been inside the house. You might know about that flood light and you might know where she keeps her Apple Watch at night. The thing that's that I can't get past is if I stole somebody and I needed to give proof of life so that I could get millions of dollars, I would ask that person questions that only that person would know the answers to and I would put that information in my note. Like information above all would be proof of life. Not where like who would say where she keeps

14:34 the Apple Watch or that a flood light had been damaged as their aha it is I I've got your person proof

14:44 right yeah it's a good point you'd think there'd be something more specific you know and they and and initially you know they really wanted to open these lines of communication but you'd imagine if there really is a kidnapper they would be hesitant to do that because you know the FBI is trying to track um and I don't know if you knew this Megan We found out through the news director of Kol, which is where both notes went, that it wasn't submitted through like an email. It came through a news tips form that you fill out on the website of, you know what I mean? Like you can fill out your name, subject,

15:14 both both notes or just the second one. Both notes. Um, that went to Kol at least. I don't know if it's the same with TMZ. So, it it I think that makes it harder to track. And they used, you know, a a scrambler for the IP address because it was different IP addresses both times. Um, so if they, you know, I don't know that you can attach a picture that way.

15:35 I know. And I don't even think you need a picture though. Like if if somebody had a relative of yours or anybody or mine or anybody listening, we all know certain things they could ask the relative like if if anybody who I know very well, a family member needed to prove through a kidnapper that it was them, that they were with the kidnapper, they absolutely could do it with information, with references, you know, with like family jokes, like it it would be easy. And so just the fact that this person has gone with something so weird like an outside flood light and the location of an apple. What is that? That proves to me you've been to the house and I it looks like you've been in the house. But that think of the number of contractors an 84y old has going through her home. You can do very little as an 84y old. She probably has somebody help her change her light bulbs. She definitely has somebody change her air

16:30 filters. Her air conditioning goes on the fritz. somebody comes in the the person who may have changed the roof recently as the neighbor observed. It's like the list is so long, but now we're talking about somebody who's taking advantage of the family's pain and not necessarily the person who's causing it.

16:48 Well, and or is all this just a sideshow, Megan? I mean, I've been thinking about this all weekend. You know, is all of this just something that the FBI has to look into and that Savannah and her family have to respond to because you put yourself in their shoes, you know, just in case. How could you not? What what if in the 1% chance it is true? You know, you want to respond, you want to try. But is there a whole another side of this investigation happening that like you mentioned at the beginning, we just don't know about? I mean, them coming here to the house, you know, at 9:00 at night on a Saturday out of nowhere. The only thing that I'm skeptical about that though is that it was these three sheriff's deputies um who were just kind of like, I don't know. I mean, I saw the raid at NY's house. I shouldn't say rape, but I saw when the FBI team showed up, it was like insane. I mean, it was a full-on FBI.

17:34 They were in their special outfits. They were in the the fancy vans and the evidence unit and the tape goes up and it felt so organized. Um, here on Saturday night, it was just these three deputies. I mean, I hate to say this, but their cars were a little beat up. Um, and they get out and they kind of wobble in and it like if this was so serious here, why didn't the FBI come here? Like, there's just there's a lot I I can't figure out. Thanks so much for watching. If you like what you just saw, hit the subscribe button for more clips and full episodes.

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "NEW Note to Guthrie Family and Video Message Response About "Celebrate" and "Peace," w/ Brian Entin"?

Megyn Kelly (Guest), Brian Entin (Guest).

What is "NEW Note to Guthrie Family and Video Message Response About "Celebrate" and "Peace," w/ Brian Entin" about?

The report details a coordinated visit by deputies and private security to Annie's house, where they spent three hours gathering evidence, suggesting a planned arrangement with the Guthrie family. The investigation remains murky, particularly regarding the family's whereabouts during this inspection and the nature of the evidence collected.

What is mentioned in this Megyn Kelly episode?

16 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Savannah Guthrie, Nancy Guthrie, FBI, NY, Ashley Banfield, Puma County. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "NEW Note to Guthrie Family and Video Message Response About "Celebrate" and "Peace," w/ Brian Entin"?

The episode runs 18 min; the transcript is about 3,596 words in 32 timestamped sections.

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