Trump's New Nancy Guthrie Comments Make It Sound Like the Case is Going COLD, with Maureen Callahan

What this episode is about

Discussion centers on political discourse around Trump, Nancy Guthrie, and related coverage, highlighting shifts in perceptions of the case, commentary on media framing, and the tension between partisan rhetoric and factual updates. Key points include reactions to perceived political labeling, the role of allies and critics, and how new disclosures (like the Cash Patel video) influence interpretations of the case.

Key takeaways

• Casual cruelty detection: learning a friend’s 'face-politics' bias reveals what they’ll never admit aloud.
• Moderation paradox: you claim not to care about politics, yet branding others fascist signals identity more than policy.
• Trump’s messaging wobble shows how raw information beats cohesion; timing and framing matter as much as facts.
• Pacemaker clue trope: strategic blunders leak more about villains than verbose investigations ever do.
• The 'left intolerant' trope crumbles under real conversation—diversity of views survives honest debate, not bravado.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Moren (Guest) · 5 min speaking
• Maureen Callahan (Guest) · 4 min speaking
• Don Lemon (Guest) · 1 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Nancy Guthrie, Amber Carara Moren, FBI, Savannah Guthrie
2. 3:00 – 6:00: FBI, Savannah Guthrie, Cash Patel
3. 6:00 – 9:00: Tucson, Nancy Guthrie, Savannah Guthrie, Don Lemon
4. 9:00 – 10:20: Birch Gold Group, Gold, Digital Currency, inflation

Notable quotes from "Trump's New Nancy Guthrie Comments Make It Sound Like the Case is Going COLD, with Maureen Callahan"

• It's just they're so intolerant. They're so hypocritical. all right, let's keep going. have you been following the Nancy Guthrie Nancy Ben Ramsey?

  about Nancy Guthrie · at 1:16

• What do you based on what you've been told, what do you think happened to Savannah Guthri's mom, Nancy?

  about Savannah Guthrie · at 2:31

• There will no there will no longer be 400 law enforcement officers on this case. When the media packs up and leaves Tucson, there will not. Mhm.

  about Tucson · at 6:26

• The outlets that regard themselves as more august and above this kind of reportage. the New York Times, etc., the way they covered this story or covered it, I don't think…

  about New York Times · at 7:34

• Holy You know what? So, I was talking to Rob Shooter the other day and he had this amazing report that Don Lemon took out extra security for his mother.

  about Don Lemon · at 8:26

• The US economy. See if holding gold in a tax sheltered retirement account is right for you. Birch Gold can help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into an IRA in gold. Just…

  about Birch Gold Group · at 9:35

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Nancy Guthrie — Person · Core subject of discussion (missing/abduction case victim) · 3 mentions · first at 1:20
  The episode centers on the ongoing investigation and media handling of the 'Nancy Guthrie' case, including law-enforcement strategy and public messaging.
• Savannah Guthrie — Person · Referenced public figure (family member of case subject) · 3 mentions · first at 2:33
  Savannah Guthrie is described as a famous person whose mother (Nancy Guthrie) is the victim, shaping media attention and public interest.
• Amber Carara Moren — Person · Co-host/guest in conversation (speaker being discussed and addressed) · 2 mentions · first at 0:18
  Moren is directly involved in the on-air conversation and is referenced as being labeled a 'fascist' by someone in the speakers' social circle.
  That doesn't sound so hopeful. Moren doesn't sound like a man who just got good news from Cash Patel about where the investigation is.
• Cash Patel — Person · Referenced figure tied to evidence release · 2 mentions · first at 1:40
  Cash Patel is cited as having released a video/material potentially connected to Trump's comments and the investigation timeline.
  That doesn't sound so hopeful. Moren doesn't sound like a man who just got good news from Cash Patel about where the investigation is.
• Peter Ducey — Person · Referenced reporter asking Trump questions · 1 mention · first at 2:21
  Peter Ducey is named as the person who asked Trump about the case, framing how the story enters national political media.
  Which does not sound hopeful. He got asked again on Air Force One. This time, I think the last time too was by Peter Ducey about like what do you think on the Nancy Guthrie case? And this is where Trump went with it yesterday. Here it.
• Don Lemon — Person · Referenced media personality (security anecdote) · 1 mention · first at 8:30
  Used in an anecdote about taking out extra security for his mother, discussed as performative or attention-seeking.
• Kamla — Person · Referenced political figure (voting example) · 1 mention · first at 1:11
  Mentioned as an example of voting preference used to illustrate tolerance for differing politics; likely refers to Kamala Harris but transcript spells 'Kamla'.
  And I'll listen to yours too. I'm not offended by somebody else being a liberal or voting for Kamla. it's not something I would do, but I'm not offended by it. It's only the left.
• Linda — Person · Referenced family member (speaker's mother) · 1 mention · first at 9:06
  Linda is mentioned in a personal aside about security and attention, contrasting with the seriousness of the abduction case.
  WANT TO GET ME, but they don't. It's not true. It's just my mom. She's very funny. Got to love Linda.

Companies & orgs

• FBI — Organization · Referenced investigative authority · 3 mentions · first at 1:49
  The speakers argue the FBI should 'run point' on the case and control messaging; the FBI is also mentioned as having found and released information.
  Okay. And there were reports that the FBI had just found it like that day or on Monday and they released it immediately. So I to this moment I don't totally know if that's what Trump was.
• New York Times — Organization · Referenced media outlet (criticized framing) · 1 mention · first at 7:38
  Cited as an 'august' outlet that allegedly turned the case into a meta-story, downplaying the human core of the abduction.

Concepts & topics

• Gold — Concept · Advertised financial hedge / investment topic · 1 mention · first at 9:41
  Gold is promoted in an ad segment as a diversification strategy amid economic uncertainty, inflation, and debt.
  Gold has risen over 700% in the last 20 years and a never- ending list of reasons smart Americans diversify a portion of their savings into precious metals with Birch Gold…
• inflation — Concept · Economic risk cited in ad segment · 1 mention · first at 9:09
  Inflation is listed as a reason to consider gold as a hedge and to diversify savings.
  International disputes, inflation, rising national debt, digital currency.
• national debt — Concept · Economic risk cited in ad segment · 1 mention · first at 9:09
  National debt is cited as part of the uncertainty motivating gold investment and diversification.
  International disputes, inflation, rising national debt, digital currency.
• Digital Currency — Concept · Economic/financial uncertainty cited in ad segment · 1 mention · first at 9:11
  Digital currency is mentioned as another macro trend contributing to uncertainty and motivating gold diversification.
  International disputes, inflation, rising national debt, digital currency.

Places & events

• Tucson — Place · Primary setting of the case · 2 mentions · first at 6:29
  Tucson is described as the place where the victim lived and where media and law enforcement presence may diminish as coverage fades.
• Arizona — Place · Jurisdictional context · 1 mention · first at 6:35
  Arizona is referenced via an 'Arizona state representative' commenting on media coverage, situating the political context around the case.
  And so for all this like this once again this local congresswoman, she's a an Arizona state representative who continues every day to shame the media for covering this case. What she's very mad at the influencers who.

Sponsors

• Birch Gold Group — Organization · Advertiser / recommended company · 3 mentions · first at 9:23
  The episode includes a promotional segment recommending Birch Gold Group for converting retirement accounts into gold holdings.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 I got to tell you something. I just found this out recently. And the friend of mine who told me will not I don't think be upset by this. Um I found out that someone on the outer ring of my social circle who I thought was who's always sort of pleasant to my face said to this person we both know, "How can you be friends with Moren? She's a fascist." A fas a fascist. She's a fascist. I guess I don't know because of where I work or because I come on your show or I work for you. I have no idea. Yeah. But I I just laughed out loud when I heard it because

0:39 clearly I think this person really believes it and like that's so stupid. So stupid.

0:44 But so fun when you realize how dumb certain people, you know, who have been in your life are that you didn't know. Like it's a big reveal. Like wow. Okay.

0:52 But it's just so funny. I would never hold a friend's politics against her. I I don't care who you vote for. I really don't. Could not care less. Actually,

1:02 um if you if you want to ask me about my thoughts on politics or whatever, that's I'll tell you obviously. I do that for a living

1:08 and I'll listen to yours too. I'm not offended by somebody else being a liberal or voting for Kamla. You know, it's not something I would do, but I'm not offended by it. It's only the left. It's just they're so intolerant. They're so hypocritical. Um all right, let's keep going. Um, have you been following the Nancy Guthrie Nancy Ben Ramsey?

1:26 A little bit. A lot. A lot. Okay. Um, Trump weighed in again. Oh, yeah. I mean, two weeks ago he was saying like, "We've got it solved." And that

1:37 Well, he did say he said, "I think some good things are about to happen." And that was the day before Cash Patel released that video.

1:44 It's it's ambiguous if I'm being honest. He said it on a Friday night and Cash Patel released the stuff on a Tuesday.

1:49 Okay. And there were reports that the FBI had just found it like that day or on Monday and they released it immediately. So I to this moment I don't totally know if that's what Trump was talking about.

1:58 Okay. I think it is. I feel like they probably did have it and he knew or maybe they at least stumbled upon it at Google and they had told the president. That's plausible to me because that Trump doesn't he actually doesn't unlike what the left says about him run out there and say that he doesn't he can't back up. Um, but now that's why I'm more bummed about his current messaging, which does not sound hopeful. He got asked again on Air Force One. This time, I think the last time too was by uh Peter Ducey

2:24 about like what do you think on the Nancy Guthrie case? And this is where Trump went with it uh yesterday. Here it is 7.

2:31 What do you based on what you've been told, what do you think happened to Savannah Guthri's mom, Nancy?

2:36 Boy, it's so so crazy. It's so bad. I didn't like where they were talking about going after the pacemaker and the and you know before they even started going after it they're coming and reporting it. If in fact they could do it that way, the person would say, "Well, I'm not going to let that happen." Right? So bad things would happen if he did not going to let that happen. I I can't imagine why they would have done that. Just in terms of strategy is one little piece. I don't know. But we have to start reporting on other subjects or else see what happens. It's a very sad situation.

3:13 That doesn't sound so hopeful. Moren doesn't sound like a man who just got good news from Cash Patel about where the investigation is.

3:19 I've been thinking about this a lot because um I've really loathed this sheriff since day one and I just wish there were I don't know what the mechanism would be to just remove him

3:31 and the sheriff's office and just let the FBI run the point on this and contain the messaging because he's no longer giving pressers. But any outlet that asks, he will talk to you. And I was listening to your show this morning about the amount of times he like weeps.

3:49 Yeah. Or tries to or tries to. And there's like this weird inversion of like his level of competence.

3:57 Like he doesn't he he won't realize how incompetent he truly is and his love of media attention.

4:05 And anybody who had an iota of self-awareness would know, well, I'm I'm in way over my head on this one.

4:10 I should run from the media. I should let the FBI deal with this messaging because Trump just said something really smart there. They said, "We're now looking for the pacemaker." So, whoever did this is going to go retrieve that pacemaker and destroy that pacemaker. So, strategically, that's pretty idiotic.

4:27 Yeah. If NY's been killed. Exactly. That's But is it is there is it possible that the pacemaker still emits even if the person is dead. So, there's

4:35 Yes, it does. Not only is it possible, it's probable. That's they they say they do. um that that's what normally happens. It would cons continue emitting. It just won't be communicating with the iPhone because it unless the iPhone's within 30 feet of it. Um but yeah, it's still sending on a signal and if you get close enough, you can potentially detect it. But his point is a good one which basically why do we know this? If we're trying to like find someone who's in the custody, we presume of a bad man, right?

5:02 Why are we telegraphing to the bad man what we're doing? Here's what we're looking for. So you can go hide it.

5:08 Yes. You know, I feel so terrible for Savannah Guthrie and her family because I remember when my dad died, I didn't want to go over to stay with him until first responders got there. But I went and met my brother at the funeral home. And I remember the first question I said to the funeral director was, "Where is he?" And it shocked me. I never thought I would think that way about someone I loved who was dead. I I should know logically they came and they took him away and they brought him to the funeral home and and and she said, "Oh, he's here. He's in the he's in the other room." And it it was only that was a key thing I needed to hear so that I could begin really grieving properly. And I I fundamentally understood in my bones in that moment why the families of the missing and the dead spend their entire lives trying to find the remains.

6:03 It's torturous. I mean, they they'll they may never know. And it's sad because like the news cycle around the story is drying up clearly because the police are either running out of leads or have finally decided to stop sharing them.

6:18 And when that happens, the media does disappear. That's natural. That's the way news works. And when the media disappears, so does the pressure on the police. There there will no there will no longer be 400 law enforcement officers on this case. When the media packs up and leaves Tucson, there will not. Mhm.

6:32 Um and so for all this like this once again this local congresswoman, she's a a an Arizona state representative who continues every day to shame the media for covering this case. What

6:43 she's very mad at the influencers who say whatever they want. You know what all you need to be saying is thank you.

6:50 Thanks for being here and calling attention to the Nancy Guthrie case. Thanks to all those influencers you're on. She's a household name. Okay. Like it's it's not because NBC does one report a day on the Today Show on Nancy Guthrie and their ratings are a shadow of what they used to be. That their show is actually not that well watched. It's the collective that's making her a ubiquitous household name.

7:15 Y and what we don't need is to shame the media who's now feeling like, do they even want us here? Like maybe we should peace out of here. Like when there's no longer any reason to and they're not getting daily news updates, they will leave. And then they're going to be really sorry.

7:30 They will leave. And the other thing that's so key about this is the um more the the outlets that regard themselves as more august and above this kind of reportage. You know, the New York Times, etc., the way they covered this story or covered it, I don't think they're covering it as assiduously anymore. Is why is the media so obsessed? you know, they turn it into a meta story and they remove the actual heart of the story, which is that a woman who is the mother of a very famous person in America was abducted from her bed in the dead of night and it's terrifying and nobody has a lead and instead it's like what what's wrong in the American psyche? What's wrong with all the little minds out there?

8:06 And then you know what comes right after that? What why don't they do this for black people?

8:10 Oh, right. That's the the next thing is they only do this for a privileged white lady who lives in Tucson. It's like stolen land.

8:18 Let me tell you right now that I don't know if Hod's mom is still alive, but if Hodak copy's mom, god forbid, something like this happened to her, they'd cover it just as much.

8:26 Holy You know what? So, um, I was talking to Rob Shooter the other day and he had this amazing report that Don Lemon took out extra security for his mother.

8:35 Nobody wants Don's mother. No, but he wants people to want Excuse me. He wants people to want his mother so that he can get this kind of media coverage.

8:43 Did I tell you so? I talked to my mom about security. I'm like, "Mom, just FYI." Then I let her know a couple things and uh I did worry that she might be a little worried and and she found out that we were going to be taking a look at her and uh she was so excited. She was like, "I can tell all my friends. She wants to be in danger. She wants like she It's like, HAHA, PEOPLE WANT TO GET ME, but they don't. It's not true. It's just my mom. She's very funny. Got to love Linda." International disputes, inflation, rising national debt, digital currency.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Trump's New Nancy Guthrie Comments Make It Sound Like the Case is Going COLD, with Maureen Callahan"?

Moren (Guest), Maureen Callahan (Guest), Don Lemon (Guest).

What is "Trump's New Nancy Guthrie Comments Make It Sound Like the Case is Going COLD, with Maureen Callahan" about?

Discussion centers on political discourse around Trump, Nancy Guthrie, and related coverage, highlighting shifts in perceptions of the case, commentary on media framing, and the tension between partisan rhetoric and factual updates. Key points include reactions to perceived political labeling, the role of allies and critics, and how new disclosures (like the Cash Patel video) influence…

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17 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Nancy Guthrie, FBI, Savannah Guthrie, Amber Carara Moren, Cash Patel, Tucson. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Trump's New Nancy Guthrie Comments Make It Sound Like the Case is Going COLD, with Maureen Callahan"?

The episode runs 10 min; the transcript is about 2,102 words in 40 timestamped sections.

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