Why the NEW Alex Pretti Videos Matter To Understanding Truth About Past Video, with Will Chamberlain

What this episode is about

The discussion analyzes a new video of Alex Pretti that has sparked intense debate online, focusing on his confrontational behavior with law enforcement prior to a fatal incident. Will Chamberlain argues that this evidence challenges prevailing narratives about the shooting's legality and highlights the police's perspective during encounters with individuals displaying violent resistance.

Key takeaways

• When chaos meets law enforcement, narratives collide; a video turns Alex Prey from activist to antagonistic cautionary tale.
• Defining moments aren't just about the event itself; they're colored by previous actions and reputations, often ignored.
• Activism or anarchy? Prey's narrative challenges our understanding of lawful resistance and the fine line we walk in debates.
• In a world of 'team sports' politics, truth becomes a casualty; facts morph into fiction faster than video can stream.
• Seeing Prey direct traffic is surreal hindsight; obstruction isn't innocent when it masks violent intent veiled as activism.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Megyn Kelly (Guest) · 6 min speaking
• Will Chamberlain (Guest) · 9 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Alex Jeffrey Prey, Eric Ericson
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Alex Jeffrey Prey, Eric Ericson, Mark Tissson
3. 9:00 – 12:00: Alex Jeffrey Prey, Senator Elizabeth Warren
4. 12:00 – 14:23: Birch Gold Group

Notable quotes from "Why the NEW Alex Pretti Videos Matter To Understanding Truth About Past Video, with Will Chamberlain"

• That's so exactly right. Thank you for saying it so articulately. Eric Ericson's been online trying to like call back conservatives who are moved by this video, saying, quote, Guys, Alex Prey was clearly an activist agitator in.

  about Eric Ericson · at 2:57

• Alex was an ICU nurse at the Minneapolis VA hospital, a nurse for veterans. He was a son, a brother, a friend, a caretaker, and he was killed while he was trying to help a woman who had been.

  about Alex Jeffrey Prey · at 11:29

• A new year means new financial goals like making sure your savings are secure and diversified. Will this be the year you decide to talk to someone from Birch Gold Group? They…

  about Birch Gold Group · at 13:14

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Alex Jeffrey Prey — Person · Central subject of discussion (deceased individual in ICE/Border Patrol altercation) · 8 mentions · first at 0:00
  The episode debates a viral video and competing narratives about Prey’s prior conduct and the later shooting; his behavior is used to argue about intent, threat perception, and propaganda framing.
• Eric Ericson — Person · Referenced commentator being rebutted · 3 mentions · first at 2:59
  Quoted as urging conservatives to stop circulating the clip and to “let the dead die”; the hosts/guests disagree and frame his stance as falling for left-wing propaganda.
• Senator Elizabeth Warren — Person · Referenced public official (clip shown as example of narrative framing) · 1 mention · first at 11:15
  A Senate-floor clip of Warren is played to illustrate what the speakers characterize as propaganda/disinformation about the incident and related claims.
  This one went viral. They said it.
• Mark Tissson — Person · Referenced commentator (tweet source) used in dispute · 1 mention · first at 3:24
  Mentioned as the person who posted the video with a sarcastic caption; his tweet is the object of Erickson’s criticism and part of the online narrative battle discussed.
  I understand pushing back against a narrative, but let the dead die. He was responding to Mark Tissson who tweeted out this video with a comment just an innocent nurse who was quote directing traffic. I completely disagree with.

Sponsors

• Birch Gold Group — Company · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at 13:20
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Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 So, this new video of Alex Prey is very telling and it exploded last night on the internet. There were there were very heated debates on X about whether it's relevant and I thought you had the best take of anybody on why it is relevant. I'm just going to refresh the audience's memory from last hour and show you the second angle of it where you can hear him yelling uh at the agents here in Satu. you. Get the out of here. you.

0:31 That's him. you. What the is wrong with you? Every crazy thing in your life is wrong. you straight, assault me,

0:46 effing assault me. you guys. There he goes. Tries to spit on the ice agent with anger. kicks in the tail light which comes off the truck entirely. Double middle finger. Now out comes the agent. Confrontation. He resists and they let him go and 11 days later he would do it again and uh he was he was killed in that second altercation. So your thoughts on why this is relevant even if these are the same any of the same guards it's obviously relevant. Um because if they recognized this guy as a as a terrorist. Yes, of course. But even if they didn't know that this was a guy they'd had a confrontation with 11 days earlier, you make the case for why we're all having this reaction to it. Walk us through it, Will.

1:38 Well, so it defeats the left's narrative, right? You know, the the legal aperture, the way we would view this legally is just from the perspective of the reasonable officer who would be in the shoes of the person who shot Alex Prey a few days ago. Um, and we've had a slew of legal analysts explain that the likely outcome of a of a dispassionate analysis of that shooting is that he it was a lawful shoot because I mean there's a variety of reasons. The guy was violently aristing resisting arrest. He had a gun on him and the officers weren't shooting them and all of a sudden they got scared by something. Uh, probably his holster being empty, somebody saying gun. We don't know if that's exactly what happened, but that's a reasonable suspicion. And then he was shot. And it's the left that's tried to open the aperture from the legal perspective on self-defense to all these other claims about uh oh, ISIS is executing people on

2:28 the street and this was a nurse who was just trying to help a woman who was in distress. And you know, he was just protesting the evil of ICE and these people are untrained and blah blah blah blah blah. And the thing is, it's like, okay, well, now the aperture is really open and now we're really seeing who this guy was and your narrative is totally blown up and now you want to shrink the aperture back down and say, "Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. We need to only be thinking about what happened on that day." It's like, well, that's what we've been trying to tell you the whole time and what we what the analysis hasn't changed.

2:57 That's so exactly right. Thank you for saying it so articulately. Um, uh, Eric Ericson's been online trying to like

3:05 call back conservatives who are moved by this video, saying, quote, "Guys, Alex Prey was clearly an activist agitator in this clip. He was also disarmed before Border Patrol agents killed him. The Team Sport insistence on dragging the dead man is kind of gross at this point. I understand pushing back against a narrative, but let the dead die." He was responding to Mark Tissson who tweeted out this video with a comment just an innocent nurse who was quote directing traffic. I I completely disagree with Eric Ericson on this and I know you do too. It's not a team sport insistence on dragging the dead man. It is a battle right now for actual facts which are being spun by the left into fiction. And those of us on team reality understand perfectly well what this guy was. And most of us I've seen you as well this week even before this second video came understood exactly what we were dealing with even before this this video. But

4:02 this just confirms it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean Eric Ericson's been in this game a long time. I don't know why he's still falling for leftwing agit prop because that was obviously what this is. I think, you know, if you're actually trying to take a sort of grand view of what's happening, it's sort of the importation of Palestinian politics into the United States, right? Like this is instead of piwood, it's this is now Miniwood. Um it's the you know the creation the agit the the agitation by lawless elements against the legitimate authorities of law enforcement to try and create a propaganda spectacle that that can be used to delegitimize the the the legitimate forces of government and the legitimate law enforcement. That's so that's all we're seeing here. And so what I I don't get I mean how does Eric Eric not Erikson not see that? And there is one really interesting thing I think about what that video the the the old

4:50 video kind of reveals about the new one. The old video shows that this guy is an unhinged violent lunatic against ICE agents. So go back to the new one. Remember how

4:59 Right. Right. So go back to the the the one where he was shot. What was he doing at the very beginning of this video? He was directing traffic. What's he doing when he's directing traffic? Well,

5:09 exactly. Well, it's kind of colored by the fact that we now know this guy's an unhinged violent lunatic attacking ICE agents. He's directing an obstruction of ICE affairs. Again, the whole, you know, there's this idea that somehow the ICE officers instigated this with Alex Prey. No, Prey and his agitator colleagues instigated a felony violation of 18 USC 1111. They were actively intentionally obstructing a law enforcement operation that kicked off this whole thing. And then a slew of other, you know, essentially terribly poor slew of examples of terribly poor judgment created the circumstances in which another officer likely felt and reasonably felt that either his life was in danger or somebody else's life was in danger.

5:51 That that I mean that's the thing. Well, he it's right there on the tape. He wanted to be attacked. He repeatedly worked to create circumstances where he would be attacked. He did that while armed with a loaded gun he knew would raise the fear levels and the perceived threat levels by any officer with whom he came into conduct contact. And then on top of that, once he got his wish and got attacked, he resisted the arrest both times. I mean, it it's almost turning into a suicide by cop situation. I mean like if you wanted to die at the hands of a law enforcement off officer, this this would definitely be an avenue you could consider,

6:34 right? And you see like, you know, the beas and buttthead of pro progressive commentary, people like Tim Miller and John Favro continuously in saying things like, "Oh, he didn't deserve this. This this was an unjust punishment. He didn't deserve to be executed." And it's just it's a complete category error. It's not even wrong. It's just it it's you're not even thinking about this in the right way from from conception because punishment happens through the judicial system. Punishment is what would have happened had this guy submitted to arrest. This was lawful self-defense in defense of others. So, it's all about the individual rights of the person. And so, when we talk about the actions of prey as flawed, we're not saying that the shooting was punishment for those actions. Rather, we are saying they were reckless actions that created the risk of death in an encounter with law enforcement. And in the same way that

7:23 you wouldn't say somebody is like deserves to be punished when they die from playing Russian roulette or crossing eight lanes of traffic, they they just took a reckless risk and got unlucky,

7:33 right? I mean, it's not it's it's not unlike the Michael Brown situation in Ferguson, Missouri, where he he assaulted an officer and then he charged the officer and that's why he got shot and killed. No one's like he deserved to die. It's like no, no one's saying that like the final punishment for an assault was him getting shot. It's the question is not did he deserve it. The question is was the officer justified and responding the way he did given the threat that was created by the other person. That's exactly the analysis here. And it's only these leftists who want to spin it into deserved or didn't.

8:08 Um, you know, and now, as you point out, they want to skinny that aperture down to just like, oh, well, you know, you can't even take into consideration his prior bad behavior. You can, and to me, the thing that's the most telling is how angry he is. He was so torquked up in that earlier video. I mean, if if you haven't seen it, members of the audience, you got to go back and look at it online. You can, you know, we start a second hour with it. We started the first hour with it. Um he is rageful will and that would translate into his next physical confrontation with those officers. They can feel the amount of rage in a body that's resisting them. It amps up everybody's uh tense tensions and stress and alert levels. Like he truly is the one who created all the tempers and the worries and the fears among the officers who had to deal with him this past Saturday.

8:58 None of which gets factored in by the left. Yeah, I think there there's only one real legitimate critique of federal law enforcement here. It's that they failed to take him into custody during that first assault. You know, you can actually make a legitimate argument that that's there that failure may have led to his death because it didn't, you know, give him a 24-hour cooling off period and lock up to think about his actions and maybe change course. Uh and certainly what he did in that in that earlier video is certainly deserving of immediate detention. uh the guy's a danger to the community based on that conduct. You don't just go around kicking law enforcement officers and demanding they assault you. That's you know at a minimum it's like a mental health issue that perhaps you need to get examined for. So uh none of this is none of this looks good for him. And I guess again suicide by cop seems right.

9:42 The guy's showing up with a gun to to aggressively confront law enforcement without ID. Maybe he apparently he scrubbed his social media too. Like really? I mean maybe this is suicide by cop. Maybe that's what this is.

9:56 Honestly, like that's what occurred to me because like if you if you wanted to do it and make yourself a martyr, you you'd play it out exactly this way. I mean, exactly this way. Although I think you would have tried to reach for your gun um more explicitly, you know, but he was being held down by the officers. I don't know, but this was extremely reckless behavior by him. Uh and the reason the prior video is is relevant is it does give us a window into how I mean truly this guy was not stable. 37 years old, not married, no kids, working as a nurse, not getting a bunch of accounts from friends and so on. I'm not sure exactly who Alex Prey really was, which is why all week I have I've been hitting Gnome on saying that, you know, he was brandishing his gun and and he was actively he went there to kill law enforcement. But I have not hit her on the domestic terrorist thing because I've been saying to the audience that we

10:49 don't know actually. Let's find out more about Alex Prey. And sure enough, the more we learn, the more we learn this guy was a terrorist of sorts. He was terrorizing ICE. Would you consider somebody a domestic terrorist who had spat on you? Who had kicked out the tail light of your car? Who's screaming in your face, attack me? Who resisted arrest when you try to affect it twice? Uh, yeah, I would. Um, but here's the narrative we've been getting all week. All right, let's go. This one went viral. They said it. Somebody took this video of Elizabeth Warren and set it to his outburst. I'm just going to show you the original Elizabeth Warren video from the Senate floor trying to read testimonials about this guy.

11:29 Alex was an ICU nurse at the Minneapolis VA hospital, a nurse for veterans. He was a son, a brother, a friend, a caretaker, and he was killed while he was trying to help a woman who had been pushed to the ground by a federal agent. 17 days earlier, ICE agent shot and killed Renee Good, a 37year-old American citizen and mom, dropping off her kid at school. She had stuffed animals in her glove compartment. Her last words on this earth were,

12:06 "I'm not mad at you." ICE agents detain Liam, a 5-year-old boy who was literally ripped off the streets by the strap of his Spider-Man backpack, a preschooler. The amount of like propaganda disinformation in that clip, well, it's stunning. I you could you could spend half an hour analyzing that two minutes. Honestly, I mean that I'm just reminded again of that ridiculous claim about how because the last words you said were I'm not mad at you as though you needed to take those literally. Any heterosexual male knows that you are making a grave error if you take those words literally from your partner. Just a grave great mistake.

12:49 Nothing. Right. There's nothing wrong. I'm not mad at you. Yeah. Are you upset? No. No. Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay.

12:55 Cool. Great. Okay. So, we're But I'm going out with the buddies, right? Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what she wants you to do. Yeah. Yeah. Straight straight men know better. I remember like

13:04 You're so right. No, Tim was making this claim and that's when I knew he was gay.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Why the NEW Alex Pretti Videos Matter To Understanding Truth About Past Video, with Will Chamberlain"?

Megyn Kelly (Guest), Will Chamberlain (Guest).

What is "Why the NEW Alex Pretti Videos Matter To Understanding Truth About Past Video, with Will Chamberlain" about?

The discussion analyzes a new video of Alex Pretti that has sparked intense debate online, focusing on his confrontational behavior with law enforcement prior to a fatal incident. Will Chamberlain argues that this evidence challenges prevailing narratives about the shooting's legality and highlights the police's perspective during encounters with individuals displaying violent resistance.

What is mentioned in this Megyn Kelly episode?

5 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Alex Jeffrey Prey, Eric Ericson, Senator Elizabeth Warren, Mark Tissson. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Why the NEW Alex Pretti Videos Matter To Understanding Truth About Past Video, with Will Chamberlain"?

The episode runs 14 min; the transcript is about 2,696 words in 27 timestamped sections.

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