LIVE: MeidasTouch RESPONDS to MAJOR BREAKING NEWS - 2/12/26

What this episode is about

The discussion focuses on the ongoing cover-ups within the Trump administration, highlighting Attorney General Pam Bondi's problematic hearing and the revocation of Trump's tariffs by the House of Representatives. Key issues include alleged spying by the Trump Department of Justice on lawmakers investigating the Epstein files, as well as recent legal victories against the Trump regime, underscoring the broader political turmoil.

Key takeaways

• The Trump regime: a masterclass in cover-ups, where the only constant is the shifting narrative of dishonesty.
• Watching Pam Bondi's hearing was like witnessing a train wreck, but hey, at least it wasn’t boring!
• Trump’s tariffs are like his promises: easily revoked and of little substance once examined.
• Grand juries rejecting indictments show that even the system has its limits when faced with absurdity from above.
• The MAGA movement’s cracks deepen as supporters question: if they lie about Epstein, what else is fiction?

Who speaks in this episode?

• Ben Meiselas (Host) · 33 min speaking
• Brett Meiselas (Host) · 25 min speaking
• Jordy Meiselas (Host) · 25 min speaking
• Pam Bondi (Guest)

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 10:00: Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Department of Justice
2. 10:00 – 20:00: Attorney General Pam Bondi, Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, Department of Justice
3. 20:00 – 30:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Attorney General Pam Bondi
4. 30:00 – 40:00: Donald Trump, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Jeffrey Epstein, Midas Touch
5. 40:00 – 50:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Attorney General Pam Bondi
6. 50:00 – 1:00:00: Donald Trump, Midas Touch, ICE
7. 1:00:00 – 1:10:00: Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein
8. 1:10:00 – 1:20:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Ghislain Maxwell
9. 1:20:00 – 1:23:37: Donald Trump, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Jeffrey Epstein, Midas Touch

Notable quotes from "LIVE: MeidasTouch RESPONDS to MAJOR BREAKING NEWS - 2/12/26"

• Also, Donald Trump's tariffs against the world are now being revoked by the House of Representatives. Now, Trump will still try to veto what the House is doing, but the House started by revoking.

  about Donald Trump · at 0:39

• Is spying on the search history of members of Congress. And then you had Pam Bondi with her burn book during her testimony where it was seen that they were looking at the…

  about Attorney General Pam Bondi · at 1:49

• What you witnessed there is perfectly encapsulating MAGA. And what we witnessed when Donald Trump posted on social media that he thought that Pam Bondi did an incredible job and she was.

  about MAGA · at 14:38

• Reminder, we're on our way to 6 million subscribers. nice audience this evening.

  about Midas Touch · at 34:40

• You what he was able to show Bondi. This document that was redacted. That's a conversation between Epstein and Gileain where Trump's lawyers and Epstein's lawyers I believe…

  about Ghislain Maxwell · at 1:10:59

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Donald Trump — Person · Primary referenced political figure / subject of criticism · 37 mentions · first at 0:01
  Central figure in the episode’s allegations of DOJ misconduct, Epstein-related coverups, tariffs policy, and broader claims of authoritarian governance.
• Jeffrey Epstein — Person · Referenced alleged criminal / core scandal subject · 36 mentions · first at 1:11
  The episode repeatedly frames Epstein as the center of a sex-trafficking scandal and alleges the Trump DOJ is withholding or redacting files and surveilling lawmakers’ access/searches.
  Debate on the issue of tariffs for another year. And Magga Mike and Donald Trump continue to cover up the Epstein sex trafficking ring as well. We will break that down. And one…
• Attorney General Pam Bondi — Person · Referenced government official under critique · 20 mentions · first at 0:13
  Portrayed as leading/defending DOJ actions in a contentious hearing; accused of evasiveness, politicized attacks, and involvement in redactions/surveillance related to Epstein files.
• Ghislain Maxwell — Person · Referenced associate in Epstein scandal · 1 mention · first at 1:11:03
  Mentioned as an Epstein associate in the context of an email/document discussed during the Bondi hearing and broader allegations about withheld communications.
• Senator Mark Kelly — Person · Referenced lawmaker / litigation beneficiary · 2 mentions · first at 2:23
  Cited as winning a preliminary injunction against the Trump administration/DoD regarding alleged retaliation tied to speech about unlawful orders.
  Lying scumbags that are the Trump regime. We'll take a look at that. you have Senator Mark Kelly winning a big preliminary injunction against the Trump regime and the…
• Tom Hman — Person · Referenced government/immigration enforcement figure · 2 mentions · first at 2:04
  Mentioned announcing that ICE and Border Patrol would be leaving Minnesota; the hosts express skepticism and later connect to a court order about detainee rights in Minnesota.
  Members of Congress. We will talk about that. We have Tom Hman in Minnesota announcing today that ICE and Border Patrol will be leaving that state. But, you can't trust and you…

Companies & orgs

• Department of Justice — Company · Government agency · 5 mentions · first at 0:15
  Central to discussions about the Trump regime's alleged cover-ups and legal actions, particularly regarding the Epstein case.
  Lie and cover up their criminality. But of course, we'll talk about Attorney General Pam Bondi's disastrous hearing where no matter what side of the political aisle you're…
• Midas Touch — Company · Podcast network · 5 mentions · first at 3:55
  The platform hosting the discussion, mentioned in the context of its content and audience engagement.
• House of Representatives — Company · Legislative body · 1 mention · first at 0:43
  Discussed in the context of legislative actions against Trump's tariffs and political dynamics.
  Of Representatives. Now, Trump will still try to veto what the House is doing, but the House started by revoking Donald Trump's tariffs against Canada.
• ICE — Company · Government agency · 3 mentions · first at 2:08
  Mentioned in the context of its operations and controversies under the Trump regime.
  Members of Congress. We will talk about that. We have Tom Hman in Minnesota announcing today that ICE and Border Patrol will be leaving that state. But, you can't trust and you…

Concepts & topics

• MAGA — Concept · Political movement · 2 mentions · first at 4:13
  Represents the political ideology and base of support for Donald Trump, discussed in the context of its influence and controversies.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:01 The cover up in the Trump regime continues. Or should I say the coverups. Which one? All of them. All they do is lie and cover up their criminality. But of course, we'll talk about Attorney General Pam Bondi's disastrous hearing where no matter what side of the political aisle you're from, or regardless of if you watch politics or care about news in general, you can observe that that was one of the biggest train wrecks in American history in any context at all. We will break it down. Also, Donald Trump's tariffs against the world are now being revoked by the House of Representatives. Now, Trump will still try to veto what the House is doing, but the House started by revoking Donald Trump's tariffs against Canada.

0:57 And this is after Magamike lost on bringing what's called a rule to the floor where Magamike wanted to block debate on the issue of tariffs for another year. And Magga Mike and Donald Trump continue to cover up the Epstein sex trafficking ring as well. We will break that down. And one of the things they're doing is the Trump DOJ is spying on lawmakers who have been giving who have been given limited access to a special facility where they're able to look at the unredacted Epstein files which should all be produced. They're unlawfully being redacted and turned over uh when they started rolling these documents out back in December and then uh more recently. Um, but the Trump DOJ is spying on the search history of members of Congress. And then you had Pam Bondi with her burn book during her testimony where it was seen that they were looking at the search history of members of Congress. We will talk about

2:04 that. We have Tom Hman in Minnesota announcing today that ICE and Border Patrol will be leaving that state. But, you know, you can't trust and you always need to verify when it comes to the lying scumbags that are the Trump regime. We'll take a look at that. Um, you have Senator Mark Kelly winning a big preliminary injunction against the Trump regime and the Department of Defense, which was uh trying to uh reduce his pay and engage in other uh proceedings against him um for uh speaking as is his First Amendment right with other lawmakers to say that uh it is a crime to follow unlawful orders and that the military should not follow criminal unlawful orders by the Trump regime. And of course, we also learned how the Trump regime tried to indict the six lawmakers who made that video telling the troops, "Don't follow unlawful orders." The two senators and the four Democratic Congress members,

3:09 but yet again, a grand jury rejected the Trump uh schemes and indictments that they're trying to bring. An unprecedented number of indictments now have just been rejected by grand juries across the country. And this one took place in Washington DC where Janine Piro uh was uh the one who tried to bring that indictment. And also interestingly, Janine Piro filed a trip and fall lawsuit today with, I believe, her husband representing her uh in a trip and fall personal injury case where she's seeking 250,000 dollars. Let's bring in Brett and Jordy Brothers. How are you doing? What's up, brothers? What's up, Midas Mighty? Great to be here everybody watching live or watching after the fact or listening on the Midas touch podcast. Very uh good to be here. This truly is like the most deranged regime that we have ever seen and at this point we just see the wheels are coming off and we've been kind of

4:12 tracking this over the past few weeks. The cracks emerging within the MAGA movement. And this Epstein story has been a major part of that because it really gets to the heart of everything that this regime pretended to be about. Even though it was as ridiculous as imaginable to think that Donald Trump was going to be the guy who stood up to the elites and the deep state and all and the pedos and everything that they said. It was ridiculous on its face. But they are the dog that caught the car. They pushed this story. They tried to weaponize it against their political opponents. And now that the truth is coming out, they simply do not know what to do. and the way they are behaving is so offensive, is so grotesque, is just like honestly a bunch of insane people that even many of the most diehard Trump supporters out there are going, "Wait a second. If they're lying to me about this, if they're lying to me about

5:04 something as heinous as a child sex trafficking ring, if they refuse to even look these Epstein survivors in the eye, then what else are they hiding? What else are they lying to me about?" And the answer is, well, basically everything for pretty much all of it. They're lying non-stop every single day. You have the most inept people in every position. It's the definition of a cacistocracy. It's offensive. It's grotesque. It's unamerican. We're going to cover all the latest that's going on there. You know, first we got to check in with Jordy. Jordy, what's the latest, man? What's up, brothers? What's up, Midas Mighty? I am excited to get into tonight's show. But before we do, quick housekeeping note. We are like almost 50 60,000 followers on this YouTube channel away from hitting six million subscribers. So, please, if you haven't already, check to see if you're subscribed. It's totally free to

5:57 subscribe. Check to see if you're subscribed. Some people think that they're subscribed, but they're actually not. So, just give it a quick double check. And if you're not subscribed, hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million this month, y'all. And Brett, exactly. Ben, I'm going to toss it to you in one second. But it's the folks in the Trump regime, man. And it's why I call them creatures. They have no allegiance to the American people. They have no allegiance to truth. But they do have allegiance to one person and they've pledged all their allegiance to him and that's Donald Trump. And so when this regime continues to lie in your face and honestly just just look at you and tell you basically you're stupid. You're stupid for caring about the Epstein files. You're stupid for caring about the survivors. There's nothing to see here. The Dow's over 50,000, which it's no longer. But anyway, it the these

6:43 creatures in the Trump regime, man, evil people. And that's just what it comes down to, right? They have pledged their allegiance to one person and his name is Donald Trump. And at the root of it, they are just evil, evil people. Ben. Yeah. I mean, look, people are looking at this regime as the pedto regime, right? Because they're covering up a child sex trafficking ring. It's people who aren't dayto-day in politics are talking about this. It's so bad what they're doing. And then it's also highlighting all the other issues, as I mentioned, the cover-ups on tops of cover-ups and the disasters on tops of disasters. I mean, Trump can say, "I took this country from extinction and now we're in a golden age where prescription drug prices have never been cheaper, where health care costs are down, down. You've never had health care so good and everybody's able to now have homes and people are doing fantastic and

7:41 the economy is booming. It's like no it isn't. You're you're you're a liar. You're making this up. People are psychologically tortured living paycheck to paycheck if they're lucky enough to get a paycheck. They can't afford rent. They can't afford a mortgage. People are having their health care ripped away from them. People in America right now who have not enrolled in any health care plan are hoping that they don't get sick, at least for the foreseeable future. They're hoping that they can just ride it out. And people are dying and this doesn't get enough attention because of Trump regime cruelty, right?

8:22 People are choosing not to go see doctors right now because they don't have health insurance because they can't afford to go to a checkup. And so preventative types of visits are now not happening and people are dying. Yet alone, I mean, how many people do you think this Trump regime has killed? I think on the low end, how how many people have they murdered in cold blood, right? And this isn't talked about enough. On the low end, 10,000, 50,000 people they may have killed. They may have killed millions of people when it comes to their destruction of USID, ripping medication away from people, forcing people who could otherwise avoid it avoid it to contract HIV and AIDS, burning food in warehouses that were made and produced by Americans and farmers so that the people abroad don't get the food. You could have even brought that food not having a smooth transition, just killing people abroad.

9:30 And don't you notice too that the groups of people that the Trump regime picks on, it's also part of the MMO of the Epstein class, don't they always seem to like go after the children, right? Or go after disabled people. They always go after those who are most who are most vulnerable. And it's always ripping the children away. throwing the children into camps, taking away the lunch from the children, taking away education opportunities from children. And that seems to be that kind of repeating over and over again. So I wanted to say that from the outset. Pam Bondi, what can you say? Utterly unhinged. Uh, this would be an SNL skit and parody if it wasn't so deadly serious involving a racketeering enterprise that the DOJ has become of covering up child sex trafficking.

10:29 Right? In a typical RICO case, everybody in the racketeering organization, whether it's the person who maybe delivers the envelope to the person who's the top boss to the person who's the driver, they are all held responsible for the enterprise even if they played a part in it and even if they don't necessarily even know the conduct of others involved in the enterprise. So using the Department of Justice's own standard for prosecuting racketeering enterprises involving sex trafficking, you could apply that law and say the entire Department of Justice has become a racketeering enterprise for the purpose of covering up and ratifying child sex trafficking. It would literally a decent in relatively inexperienced prosecutor out of law school though who's you know an a USA would be able to prosecute the entire department of justice if that were to be the case because it is. And I want you to think about that case

11:38 because Pam Bondi would be a witness in that case. And she'd probably do the Trump thing, the Epstein class thing, invoke the fifth amendment against self-inccrimination, right? When she h when she has to take the stand or if she has to take the stand in the future. But for now, she thinks that those rules don't apply and that she'll never be held accountable and that all she has to do is go up there and do the Trump shtick. The the stock market is $50,000. You live in Culver City. The Culver City is a bad city and you you should see that, you know. So, we made a montage of the low lightss of what went down. Let's start off by showing you that let's play.

12:28 There was one redaction out and we invited you inentle. We This guy has Trump derangement syndrome. He needs to get You're a failed politician. I I find it interesting that she keeps going after President Trump, the greatest president in American history. and and if they could maintain their composure. You don't tell me.

12:49 Oh, I did tell you because we saw what you did in the Senate. Lawyer, not even a lawyer.

12:54 Will be discussed with Donald Trump. You have Trump derangement syndrome. All of you who participated in those impeachment hearings against Donald Trump, you all should be apologizing. You sit here and you attack the president and I am not going to have it. I'm not going to put up with it. The Dow is over 50,000 right now. The S&P at almost 7,000 and the NASDAQ smashing records. Americans 401ks and retirement savings are booming. That's what we should be talking about.

13:28 Trying to intimidate and punish these ladies forward. Okay. So, just a few points and I'll turn I know Brett and Jordy, you're going to want to react right away. Congressman Jamie Rascin, constitutional scholar, Harvard Law, very accomplished lawyer. Some of the other people you saw, Democrats asking questions, very accomplished lawyers, people like Dan Goldman, a former top federal prosecutor out of the Southern District of New York, prosecuted mob cases, sex trafficking cases, right? Like knew what he was looking for, knew how to cross-examine. You know, who's not a licensed lawyer on the judiciary committee? You know who's not? Hint, he's also involved in covering up sex abuse. You know who I'm talking about?

14:13 Oh, the Republican chair of the judiciary committee, Jim Jordan, never took the bar exam, yet he's the person leading the judiciary committee there. So, I just wanted to point out while Pam Bondi is saying to Jamie Rascin, a renowned constitutional scholar that you are not a real lawyer. Actually, the notreal lawyer was right there. But isn't that perfectly encapsulating MAGA? What you witnessed there is perfectly encapsulating MAGA. And what we witnessed when Donald Trump posted on social media that he thought that Pam Bondi did an incredible job and she was great. To me, that perfectly encapsulates MAGA in every respect. And so Donald Trump posted that uh AG Pam Bondi under intense fire from the Trump deranged radical left lunatics was fantastic at yesterday's hearing on the never-ending saga of Jeffrey Epstein where the one thing that has been proven conclusively much to their chagrin was that President

15:17 Donald J. Trump has been 100% exonerated of their ridiculous Russia Russia Russia type charges. Actually, it is the slime ball Democrats, many of them big donors and politicians that have been proven guilty. Republican loser, sanctimonious rhino congressman Thomas Massie made a total fool of himself yesterday, fighting aimlessly against a hopeless agenda of hate and stupidity. as most clearly stated by his crashing job approval numbers in the great commonwealth of Kentucky. So Brett Jordy Bondi is just using those exact talking points right there. That's what Trump wanted to see. Trump watched what we all saw whether you were right-wing, leftwing, center, we all looked at that as that was horrible and he looked at that as great. So in law when we take the elsats there was something called the logic games right. So I would say Pam Bondi is too great as in Donald Trump's view United States is too great.

16:29 So what does that ultimately equal right there? If that's your view of great and how you think successful leaders behave and when Trump says these things are great, then you know that it's the worst thing. Absolutely. You don't have to use that logic game to figure that out, but you know it's the worst thing ever. Brett J. And that's an insane person. Let's just be straight. Like that's an actual insane person out there. And she was clearly out there performing for an audience of one. And I saw a lot of people on the MAGA side of things yesterday who were disgusted by her performance and good, but there's still this kind of cognitive dissonance where they go, "Oh, it's, you know, Trump needs to do something about her. She's gone rogue. She's doing her own thing.

17:12 How could she possibly do this about Epstein?" And it's like, no, that's what Donald Trump wants. She's using Donald Trump's language. And so when Donald Trump today posted that message, I actually saw a lot of these Trump people be like, "Oh, dude, this ain't it, man. This this is not the way to go. fire her ass. What are you doing right now? And it really is just like it's it's insane. And I want to remember, too, this was the serious pick, you know, quote unquote. This was the serious pick. I had a lot of people tell me that Pam Bondi, oh, she's she's like legit, though, right? I was like, I don't think so, though. Remember who he picked before Pam Bondi to be the attorney general of the United States? Matt Gates, somebody who was under investigation for sex trafficking.

17:51 That's how seriously that he took this role. And that's the position now that is actually looking into this sex trafficking ring. And Pam Bondi was so disgraceful going there. She had a literal burn book like you know Mean Girls. She had a book of insults written about each person out there. Our reporter on the hill who was there like right behind Pam Bondi, Pablo Monriquez told us. He said Pam Bondi has a few binders in front of her and one of her binders is a list of insults and there are tabs with each politician who's going to answer question who's going to ask her questions and he's she keeps flipping he was telling us this while it was going on. She keeps flipping to the various politicians when they start and then she looks down at her list and she makes her insult and that's how she was handling the situation rather than actually trying to provide information about such a serious topic. And she

18:44 would just kind of go to one person, she would be like, "Oh yeah, well you have crime in your district so you shouldn't be talking. Oh well, you do this, well you do that." And that's just beside the point. And then she went into that bizarre rant about the Dow being $50,000. Is there anything or 50,000? I think she said $50,000, not 50,000 points. Is there anything more out of touch than that? You're talk you're there to talk about what's going on in your Department of Justice, the rule of law. You don't have anything to do with the economy. People are asking you about Epstein and his ties to people in the administration, asking you about these survivors who you won't even look in the eye, you won't even acknowledge, you won't even apologize to at all. And you're there bringing up that the Dow hit 50,000. Are you freaking kidding me?

19:30 But you see the language that Donald Trump uses. It's the same exact language that Bondi uses. And all of these people who who work for his administration, you can't come out of this administration clean. You're always going to have that Trump stank on you because Trump makes these individuals go through these humiliation rituals. That's what that was. And you see, they are more than willing to do so in order to please their leader.

19:54 Yes. Absolutely. Look, here's the thing. I said this online yesterday. Like I I knew Pam Bondi was this incompetent, rage baiting, narcissistic, lying jag off. She's also evil. Like just evil. And you know what? She's a bad actor. And like I I mean she's bad at acting, right? Because to your point exactly, Brett, she was playing for an audience of one. That's where the insults were coming from. That's why she had the burn book to remind herself of his favorite rants to go on these tangents on these people. And that's what she was doing.

20:26 For me, it comes down to this too. Like this is forever going to be their legacy. This entire Trump regime, Donald Trump, Caroline Levit, Pam Bondi, all all of them pedto protectors. Pedto protectors. That's how they will go down and be defined in history as pedo protectors. And so to all the pod bros out there, right? The pod bros, right? It's just like, come on. These are the people you're going to protect. These are the people you're going to have on your platforms and bro out with, bro. They are protecting pedophiles. And I know we've seen a lot of a lot of these pod bros waking up to this. I'm glad they are quite frankly, you know, some might say too little too late. But hey, I I I'm here for people to see what's going on and to be like, hey, you know what? They're lying to me and this is really [ __ ] up. This is really messed up. Why? Because of the survivors here that they don't care about finding the

21:17 truth for their survivors at all. They're going to just continue to pro protect Pedos. It's unbelievable to see come down what happened yesterday with B with Bondi. I it it's truly embarrassing. Like it makes my skin crawl the way she was behaving during that hearing. And again, just to find out the damn facts here, pedo protectors man.

21:37 I mean, well, look, you know, Donald Trump when he held his press conference earlier, he was using the same lines. you know, the people were asking him questions about Epstein and Lutnik and what do you think about this? Like he he did the exact same thing. He was like, "Uh, the Dow is over $50,000." Here, play this clip.

21:54 The Dow hit 50,000. Now it's over 50,000 and three. Okay. But what what people are trying to ask though is were you aware that Secretary Lutnik visited Epstein Island? Here, let's play this clip.

22:10 Yeah, please. Mr. President, were you aware that Secretary of Commerce visited Epstein's island? And do you continue to have

22:16 No, I wasn't aware of it. No, I didn't. I actually haven't spoken to him about it. I wasn't, but from what I hear, he was there with his wife and children. And I guess in some cases, some people were. I wasn't. I was never there. Somebody will someday say that I was never there. Uh, yeah, please.

22:35 There's so many demented things about that, but also just the way he's talking. Like we all realize he's like a crazy demented human, right? I was never there. I was never there. I was never there. I mean, why is this person the president of the United I mean just set it let's just use different words and let's say he wasn't talking about the fact that his cabinet member brought children to the island where children get raped. Like set that aside for a moment and then we'll then we'll address that. Let's just say he was talking about I don't know baseball and that was how he communicated. We'd be like wait this guy's probably something's going on right? like there's something wrong with him. Is this someone who's suffering from something?

23:11 But then now let's actually talk about what the topic was. Yeah. The problem that people have, Donald, is that your cabinet member Howard Lutnik said that he never spoke with Epstein after 2005 because he was so grossed out and disgusted and knew what Epstein was up to. But then now we've learned that he lied when he said he never had any communication after 2005. And not only that, but he thought it was a good idea when he was on notice that Epstein was a very, very horrible human. He brought his little children and then brought children of his friend and his friend over to the island and then they did a business deal a few days later after he claimed he had no communication. That that's disqualifying behavior. I mean, look at what's happening in Norway right now where it's former prime minister who's all over these files um was charged and is now being prosecuted there. Um look at what's happening ac

24:14 across the world as as leaders and people who are in these files are being held accountable. So people want to understand what you said is the problem that he's that he's brought his children there and the rot and the disqualifying nature of all of this is that Trump doesn't even he's so evil and vile that he goes as I understood he brought his children there. Yeah, that's the that's really the issue. The issue is that he brought his children to the island where children were sex trafficked after he said that he knew that Epstein was doing horrible things and that he never saw Epstein. That's the part that needs to be investigated and that why he needs to go and the fact that even if we knew nothing else about Donald Trump, let's say we didn't know that he was found civily liable for sexual abuse. Let's say we didn't know that Donald Trump is on audio recording saying that he personally grabs women by their genitals

25:14 and sexually assaults women. He said he says he sexually assaults women, grabs them by their genitals because he's rich and that's what rich men get to do. Set aside that fact. Say you didn't know that. Say you didn't know that Donald Trump said because he owns beauty pageantss that he got to inspect the girls naked without their consent. Just push that aside for a second. and then push aside that he says all of that is just how he believes men should behave and that it's locker room talk. Set aside the fact that he's saying he says that Epstein is a great guy who likes girls on the younger side or women on the younger side. Set that all aside just so or that he and Jeffrey Epstein did parties together at Mara Lago or was just I want to call them parties. That's what he referred to them as. But it was him and Epstein. And they would invite girls between the ages of 15 and 16 years old and 22 or right around that

26:05 age group. And the people who ran the modeling agencies were told, oh, that they thought that they were sending their models to go to a modeling event in order to get work, but it would just be Donald Trump and Epstein that were there. What do you think Trump was? What do you think they were doing when they're Set aside that set aside the videos of Donald Trump licking his lips, you know, while around Epstein, while looking at women in the building in Mara Lago, you know, and like making weird faces and like making Epstein crack up, you know, set aside, right, that set aside all of that or that Melania called Gilain Maxwell G and said that that New York Magazine article was great where Trump said that uh Epstein's a great guy who likes women on the younger side or that Gileain then referred to Melani as sweet pea. Set that all aside that in 2006 we all know that Donald Trump has now said apparently according to the

26:59 former police chief in West Palm Beach said that Donald Trump told him that he was aware that Epstein would bring little girls around. Um, and this was after Epstein was arrested when Trump was trying to, I guess, distance himself, but then Epstein was still a guest, you know, would still show up at Mara Lago were still talking about being a, you know, set set that aside. So, set set all set all this aside. Say, oh, set aside the fact that Mara Lago is where sex trafficking took place, right? And I'm not saying I don't have to say allegedly because we know it's a fact undisputed that Virginia Duy was sex traffked out of Mara Lago when she was a child. a child, sex trafficked, worked at Marl. We set set all that aside.

27:40 See, like you can do this all episode. Set all of that aside and just say that the president of the United States, whether it's former President Obama, former President Biden, George W. Bush, whoever, right? You learn that your cabinet member brought children to Epstein Island after specifically saying that they were on notice that Epstein was doing really bad things, but decided to bring the children, then enter into a business deal, and then go voluntarily on a public tour before the revelation that you were on the island and deny any interaction and then you say that's just Howard. I like him.

28:29 Nothing's going to happen with him. You've now ratified that behavior. That alone to me is impeachable indis.

28:37 Can I add one? Could I add one more on top of that as well? All right. Now, set aside what if I went through the same

28:45 What if I did the same? Um, set aside all of what Ben said and the Lutnik thing as well. And now think about this. We discovered, and we knew this already from previous reporting, we knew that Bannon was doing this, but we learned in explicit detail how close Steve Bannon was to Jeffrey Epstein through these emails, through these text messages. And we learn not only were they close, but it appeared that Steve Bannon was acting as a conduit between Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump through these emails. Not only that, we learned that Steve Bannon was acting as Jeffrey Epstein's crisis PR guy and was training him for I think it was like a 60 Minutes interview was trying to figure out how he can rehabilitate Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted sex trafficker's reputation in order to get him back into high society so that he could then be in the world of politics and business and be back on the streets and doing everything and be like

29:44 a good guy again in everyone's good graces. Steve Bannon, that was his whole thing. That was what Bannon was doing. That was Bannon's entire goal. And so you find out that that happens from the Epstein files. you get additional confirmation of all of that happening and like dozens and dozens of photos of Bannon and Epstein being buddy buddy and in his offices and video tapes and you know Bannon interviewed him I think for at least like 15 hours or or something like that and all these text chains of chains of intimate details of the United States government and global government and what Trump is up to and and all of these things and Donald Trump's reaction after learning all of that after seeing all of that is to make a post praising ing Steve Bannon and saying how amazing of a guy he is. Wouldn't you think if you wanted to say that none of that was okay with me that your first move would

30:37 say that's not okay with me? Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett. But then set aside that and then you go a step further and then you have Steve Bannon's criminal conviction in Washington DC uh dismissed and you order Janine Piro to do the following. prosecute or try to get an indictment of two Democratic senators and four Democratic Congress members for making a video telling members of the military not to follow unlawful orders, which is a restatement of the law. It'll have herd go in and try to get that indictment rejected, by the way, by the grand jury and then right around the same day file a motion to dismiss based on prosecutorial discretion a case where Bannon was already convicted where Bannon was going to make a frivolous appeal to the United States Supreme Court. So technically the case remains pending even though he was convicted of obstruction of Congress in connection with the January 6 committee but then

31:44 dismiss that case after all right after all of the news breaks regarding Bannon's connections with Epstein. So it's not even it's it's not even Jordy I'll throw it to you you know quickly. It's not even a question. We If and this is what you said, Jordy. If you support this guy, this is who you are. Like you're into this stuff. Like that is that is you. That that defines you. And there's no way you can be like, "Well, actually, I support I support this piece, but no, if if you're if you're with that, that's who you are." And I think that right now that's why independents are like I can't I can't be near right this crew, right? Let's I need like a restraining order to get get away from me. And even right-wing people are like

32:41 I can't be seen around you. Like y'all should probably be on a registry. Like I can't hang with you. I can't be wearing the if I'm wearing the hat, people are going to think that I was on the island like like they're going to think that I'm with this. So, I can't even, you know, you know, these people may may like some of the horrible thing. I like the masked agents. You know, I like the Gustapo. You know, you're cruel. You were very cruel and terroristic, but I can't be associated. I can't wear You're gonna make me wear a mask soon because I can't be associated with you. Well, because he you can no longer cherrypick or not that you ever were able to, but you can no longer cherrypick and get away with it, right? I I like, you know, I like the fiscal policy of Donald Trump administration. Again, that's all [ __ ] Anyone that just says that's a liar, but but I don't like this stuff over here. Okay. But, you know, I I like

33:36 the mass ICE agents on the streets, but you know, this stuff over here I don't like. Okay. But the thing that you don't like if you're going to go to that defense now are are pedto protectors. That's that that's what you're saying. So you have to own the entire Trump regime now. Like that that that's yours. You're either all in on protecting pedos or you're not. Or you want the truth or you want justice for the survivors. It's clear as day to me. The Trump regime, these are bad, bad, bad people. And the more evidence that comes out, the more that continues to be true and the more that will continue to be true. So plant your flag right now. Where do you stand?

34:13 Are you going to be pro pedto protectors? Are you going to be protruuth, pro- survivors? These are real people. Real people. And it's just it it's astonishing to me the way people bend over backwards to to justify it. But in this instance, very specifically right here, it's an impossible. It's an impossible thing to distance yourself from. But pedto protecting, come on. That's not a thing anymore. Never was a thing. And you're not going to get away with that.

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38:06 Try it for free at ziprecruiter.com/midas. That's ziprecruiter.com/idas. Meet your match on ziprecruiter. Let's go. Shout out to our sponsors, y'all. Links in description of both the YouTube and the audio. Use the links, use the codes. If there's an exit survey, let them know. We sent you real quick, Benji. Uh audio listeners, this is your moment. Uh we are like 200 reviews away from hitting that from hitting the 50,000 mark. Oh, couldn't be better from hitting the 50,000 review mark on audio. So, please when you have a moment, uh just it takes like 30 seconds. Leave a fivestar review, leave a comment on audio, wherever you get your podcast. It's really freaking helpful and we really greatly appreciate it. So, please takes takes five seconds, five star review, comment. Thank you so much. That Pam Bondi thing, the Dow is over 50. You know what it reminds me of?

39:00 I I know it's not funny, but um remember when Timberlake got arrested uh and he was like, "This is going to ruin the world tour." This is that this is the 2026 version of that. The Dow is over 50,000. I mean, just just

39:14 when I watch these people, I'm legitimately like, are they on drugs? Are they drunk? Like is some are they just possessed by this weird like MAGA thing? Like it's it's just a very bizarre thing. It's not normal for me.

39:27 Yeah. It just comes they're just they're bad people. Like at their core they are bad people and they don't care about the American person. They just they genuinely don't.

39:37 And they they do weird stuff with dogs also. Um you remember like so you have Christine Gnome's like a dog killer, right? Like and then the story of [ __ ] it man.

39:48 The this the the the story of Pam Bondi, right? What was it after Hurricane Katrina? She like stole somebody's dog and then like and like wouldn't give the dog back and like like instituted litigation to like keep the stolen dog that she took and the family's like, "Can we can we have our dog back, please?"

40:06 Remember when I know this isn't exactly the same thing, but remember when Ted Cruz flew to Cancun and there was the image that he left his dog behind? I mean, look, just just so so it's just a great point, though. Like, let me stay on this thread for a second, right? You've got Pam Bondi's weird background that I just, you know,

40:21 put aside that Pam Bondi thing with the duck. Put aside We can't We can't do the put aside thing anymore. I think we entire audience patience with that

40:29 or that or that Christine Gnome like kills all of her pets. Um, but just think about like Pete Hegit's background, right? degenerate nonprofits crashed into the ground, investigated, allegations of sexual abuse, you know, um, you know, just overall like just bad person, allegations of heavy drinking, you know, like, you know, and and and denial of that after admitting it. His own mom sent him a letter like, "I'm horrified by you." And then the mommy had to speak with the sen remember when you guys remember for the department of defense you know that the when he was at his hearing his mommy had to go and speak with the senators they called in mommy to say I know I wrote the letter to my son and said that he was having all of these issues and he's destroyed the lives of his wives but mommy didn't really mean that and my son's going to be a very good boy. Right. And meanwhile, you have the Department of

41:28 Defense. What this past week, they caused the shutdown of the airspace over El Paso because they were trying to test lasers to shoot down birthday party balloons that they were claiming to be Mexican cartel drones, but were balloons from a nearby party. And then they blamed the shutdown of airspace on an invasion by Mexican cartel drones when in fact it was the FAA having to shut down the airspace because they were worried that the lasers from Hegsith were going to kill people flying airplanes and then like just like think about that was like a like that type of story. Like do you remember when um what's the guy's name? who was the former governor of New Jersey shut down the bridge and that was like one of the biggest scandals like to retal like dude Trump does that every morning before like before you before I

42:23 10day airspace shutdown is just so bonkers. Like when I woke up to they're shutting down the airspace over El Paso for 10 days. That's like that's like are we going to war? Is there a nuclear bomb headed towards the US? Are we about to invade Mexico? like any thought could run possibly run through your head and it's just the utter incompetence of these people and then the lying again the li blaming it on Mexico and drones and cartels. I mean give me a goddamn Let me I want to stay on this thread. Howard Lutton we know he brings his childrens to Epstein Island like so we know rightf Jr. Put it this way when the story broke about RFK Jr. that he killed a bear and then took the dead bear and put it in Central Park so that people would be horrified when they saw a dead bear. Like no one even blinked that that was even like a story like yeah I did that. I did that. Um and it was like you know you were on Epstein's plane. Yeah

43:19 was everyone was on Epste's plane I guess. Uh you know or when RFK Jr. is in the Epstein files and they're describing how his how his wife uh allegedly died by suicide, but the autopsy shows that her hands were trying to pull a noose off and notably Epstein others, you know, the story of Epstein's death certainly doesn't make a lot of sense, but Epstein goes whoops regarding RFK Jr. and you know, and again, not only just being in those files, but RFK Jr. like with his antivax stuff, like killing thousands of people in other kind of islands and countries when he would go there with the same antivax stuff and, you know, not to mention just all of his quackery and hate. And then he and then uh he kept a book of all the people he was cheating on his wife with which was you know, which was found next to her when she allegedly died by suicide. But it was, you know, but there's very mysterious circumstance. I

44:17 mean, just think of just again think about these people. I mean, you've got uh what's his name? Uh Treasury Secretary, uh Scott Bessant, um who who lived in a pink Barbie, uh he he painted his he's lived in a pink Barbie mansion in Charleston. Um, you know, you've got all of these people's backgrounds that are like, who like who is this entire crew of people and and like how did you find them? I mean, you could give me a Dr. Oz is this, you know, you know, these are bad. These are like all really bad people who have who have spent their lives reaching doing the worst imaginable things and we and they've been brought together. And remember, who is the person who was Trump's pick before Bondi?

45:10 Just think about that, you know, like they're literally picking people who are out there engaging in the think about that's who he wanted to handle the Epstein stuff. Matt Gates, in case you didn't know who I was referring to. Um, you know, it's it's it's ridic. And so then Trump is asked like Trump is asked a very basic question today as well with all of that as background. My my my whole episode today is uh or my my whole role is just side quests and then just and then just looking at the time and I'm like, oh shoot all but all important points to make.

45:48 Donald Trump is then asked a very basic question. So you all said that a staff member was the one who was really responsible for posting the video which included apes and the Obama's faces were photoshopped on the apes. Clearly not just incredibly racist, like the most racist you could probably do. And so you you blamed it on a staff member after people said you did it first and that's just the way you meme. So clearly there's got to be some accountability for the staff member. Did he fire the staff member, discipline the staff member? You know, just and just think about it, folks. Like what if again somebody in your company? Um a nonprofit, a social group, you know, did that behavior, right? They took a photo of somebody who was black that you knew and then photoshopped that on an ape and and did it in the group chat with you, right? Like if you didn't get rid of that friend, if you didn't speak up, if

46:53 that person wasn't fired from their job, if that person wasn't held to the most serious ramifications, we would all be like, "This this is this is a this is a despicable company or group. What is this, the clan? Like, who who who is doing this?" And so Trump's asked the question here. This is what he says. Let's play it. Have you fired or disciplined that staffer who posted the video from your account that included the Obamas?

47:23 No, I haven't. That was a video on, as you know, voter fraud and fairly long video and they had a little piece and had to do with the Lion King. It's been very well uh it's been shown all over the place long before that was posted, but that was a that was a very strong uh if you and I'm sure you saw it a very strong piece on voter fraud and the piece that you're talking about was all over the place many times I believe for years. Yeah. Please.

47:53 Okay. That's that's not a normal reaction. That again, let's just assume he wasn't the one who posted it. Set that aside. Use the same kind of framing that I did before. So, you are now aware of it, right? You're aware that as the president of the United States, you posted a photo, the first black president and the first black first lady. You went out of your way to post a photo with their faces photoshopped on apes and you claim somebody else did it, but it was posted in your name on your account. Arguably the uh social media account that used to be of import, the president of the United States social media account, it happened. Let's just assume you didn't do it.

48:49 Don't you think that just a human being, not even with decency, but a modiccom of it, a fraction of decency, not even decency, just 1/4 of decency, 1/8 of decency? Okay. Wouldn't you just say, "That was screwed up. I didn't know it was in there. I apologize if that caused the Obamas or anybody at all uh any type of uh any type of harm and and and and I I will I will do a better job um I'll do a better job making these types of posts. Do do we have Brett the video of Prime Minister Carney reacting to the horrible shooting that took place in British Columbia which killed nine innocent people. The shooter died as well. It was a school shooting in the high school there. 25 injured. Horrible, horrible shooting in the high school.

49:53 and Prime Minister Carney shows up to parliament and he's asked about it. I'm not sure.

50:01 What' you say, Brett? Is that I don't think we have it. Okay. Well, well, I I'll pull I I want I want to pull it up dur you know after after the next break though because it is someone who he was crying. I'll just describe it. Prime Minister Carney was was crying and very emotional and I'm going to give all of the resources and do everything I can and this is a national tragedy. And on the day when that happened in Canada, Donald Trump was making social media posts attacking Canada, saying that we're going to invade your bridge and the bridge belongs to us and the tariffs against no one treats us worse than Canada and the tariffs against Canada are the best thing ever. you know, not calling the prime minister, not calling your neighbor, not making any posts reflecting solidarity with the people of Canada, none posting attacks against Canada.

51:05 And you know, it's again, I say this a lot, but there's there should be nothing political about any of what I've just described and discussed. This should just be pure adult behavior. Forget adult behavior, just human being behavior with these children shouldn't behave like this. And that that's to me what this is. And so this this fog of of of MAGA mutation, this fog of MAGA weirdness, of MAGA hate, of MAGA perversion, of MAGA pedto, of MAGA everything. That's the that's the the the the vapor the the toxic fumes right that that have infected this nation where it's where it's people aren't thinking straight and corporate news tries to capture that in a bucket as here's this side and here's this side and this is a Democrat.

52:20 This is this is deranged stuff. And not to mention, of course, these predators are going to then prey on Greenland and prey on Minnesota and prey on all of these cities and send these masked agents who are terrorists and who dress up as terrorists engage in the horrors that are taking place. I'm not going to play this clip, but one of the things that Donald Trump said at that press conference as well regarding going to war with Iran, I showed this in a video I did earlier, is Trump says, "We're going to make it traumatic."

53:02 That's the words he used when it comes to Iran. If they don't do a deal with us, we're going to make it traumatic. One point there as well. Let's not forget that last month Donald Trump told the protesters in Iran, "Go out, protest the Ayatollah. We got your back. If the Ayatollah does anything to you, we will come in," quote, "g guns ablazing." We did not even have the military capabilities to be helping out the protesters because our equipment was in the Caribbean off the coast of Venezuela. And I did an interview with Senator Warner from Virginia uh earlier in the day that I'll air either later or tomorrow. Our allies also don't want to share intelligence with us. So we had no levers with Europe or other allies in the re or near the region to put pressure on Iran while Trump was posting get out there and protest to which the Ayatollah massacred all the protesters to which Trump then took credit because you know how his

54:12 call went with them. You got to give me something. You got to give me a little bit. You got to give me something that I can say. Right? That's what you know that's what happened. and they go, "Well, we won't hang 762 people." They probably gave a different number. They probably said 100 and Trump made up the number 762, but Trump's like, "The Ayatollah was very respectful and they've agreed not to hang 762 people." Anyway, I just want to connect all of those things together because

54:40 let me let me just say let me just say this because you've been going on for a little while and I I want to go back to um what what you were talking about before which is the just degeneracy of this movement and MAGA and it really is their north star this moral depravity that they have. And I'll give you just two quick data points right here. As you know, we reported on here on the Midas Touch podcast, um we've been reporting on these these tweets, these social media posts that have come from the Department of Labor, um that have been just Nazi posts. They've been white nationalist posts, Nazi posts. They've had uh illusions to uh Adolf Hitler.

55:17 They've had capital HH. They've had Nazi phrasing uh using Nazi titles uh look just like kind of Nazi era posters. And so in a normal uh administration, right, you would think, oh, the individual who's responsible for those, once it became obvious that that's what that individual was doing, what you got to do is you got to get rid of that person. You cannot have that toxicity. Not in the United States of America, not somebody running an account such a as such importance as the Department of Labor account. Are you freaking kidding me? Well, it turns out the individual who ran that account, it's a guy named 21-year-old named Payton Rollins, and he was hired this month to run the Homeland Security social media account. So, he got a promotion is my point. He was rewarded for that behavior. Quite the contrary to being punished in like what a normal administration would do. And there are just example after example

56:12 after example of that. Another example, let me show you this email from Greg Bevino. Greg Bevino, he was the guy who was doing all the ice raids, the guy who dressed like a Nazi in his big uh, you know, cloak in his big jacket that he wore. It's kind of Nazi style. Uh, he was terrorizing the streets of Minneapolis. And there was an agent who shot a woman in Minneapolis. And you would think after that happened, I think he shot this woman like five times. And there's like a this is like a big story right now. You would think that you would try to tell that agent, maybe next time, deescalate the situation. We're putting you on leave. We're firing you.

56:51 You're going to face charges. There going to be consequences. This is not how you treat people. But again, quite the contrary. Greg Bevino, who runs the operation, who ran the operation, I should say, the chief border patrol agent at the time, writes to that officer, and here's an email that I have pulled up right here, and says, "Good afternoon. I'd like to extend an offer for you to extend your retirement beyond age 57. This will be your second extension, and we'd like you to consider this if feasible. In light of your excellent service in Chicago, you have much left to do. Joe, would you have staff work with Mr. Exoom to accomplish in this most illustrative uh endeavor?

57:30 Thank you. And so, illustrative endeavor. So you have that right there where instead of punishing this individual who committed these heinous acts, you have Gregory Bevino saying, "We actually want you. We're going to change the rules for you. We want you to work longer." In fact, and incredible job. That's exactly what we are looking for here in Border Patrol. That's exactly what we are looking for in this administration. And it gets to that moral rot and that moral depravity that exists throughout every single branch of this regime.

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1:02:28 Benji, before I before I give it back to you, to the live viewers right now and to the audio viewers, how'd it go? Did you send the link to six people? What did they say? Are they watching right now? I I know you guys aren't going to let us down. So, please, if you haven't yet, send this link uh to to anybody to any any any six people you know. Benji, where to next? If you're wondering what Trump was holding that press conference for, it was to repeal the endangerment finding um the EPA's authority to regulate climate pollution. Uh and it's a 2009, it's called the Endangerment Finding, which determines that greenhouse gases are dangerous to public health under the Clean Air Act. And it underpins the limits on emissions from power plants and all the facilities that pollute. Right? The kind of main regulatory authority has to hinge on this endangerment finding and it's should not be even a disputed fact that

1:03:37 these greenhouse gases are causing harm or a danger to public health. It's like a basic universally agreed science fact under the Trump regime. That's what they were announcing today. You have former President Barack Obama posted the following today. The Trump administration repealed the endangerment finding. The ruling that served as the basis for limits on tailpipe emissions and power plant rules. Without it, we'll be less safe, less healthy, and less able to fight climate change. And also the fossil fuel industry can make even more money. You know, and the Trump regime has that mascot that you may have seen, Kohi. They call him Kohi. And it's a it's a piece of coal uh with a smiley face that looks like AI generated Kohi.

1:04:27 That's that's the mascot. It's like And then you had uh what was it yesterday? Uh the coal industry showed up at the White House before this announcement and they gave Donald Trump uh a trophy. Uh they gave him the number one coal lover trophy or something like that. Like they have to give the guy a trophy and like he accepted it as though it was like a like a real award. And this is something that's just going to kill people. It's going to result in people dying and getting cancers and getting and getting sick, you know. When I think about also the children who are locked up in concentration camps in the United States like Dilly and Delaney and others ProPublica did an incredible piece where they read these letters and even the kids there were saying we barely get food, we barely get any water and when we drink the water, the water is what's making us sick.

1:05:22 And like there's a reason why you have the end endangerment finding and findings like this because I mean everybody remember watching the Aaron Brochovich movie or movies like like like do we do we realize that we've uncovered as a society that this that these polluters their behavior is it's causing cancers and it's causing sickness and it's causing global warming and is causing systemic issues that that that that actually even if you wanted to view this selfishly and economically, the net impact of allowing the pollution to spread decreases the productivity and harms the economy. And you know that because you sick people can't work. If that's truly all you cared about from just a pure selfish we need better workers who are healthy. You're going to make them sick and you're going to make productivity harder if people are coughing and people can't show up and and things break and and if there's no world to live in

1:06:34 eventually, you know, and what's what's all of this for? And also there's a way to focus on climate change and make money. And America was focused on that under former President Biden. Now China's of course leading the way. Here's Donald Trump making that announcement that we are terminating all green emission standards. Like that was that's what that was his day today. Cover up sex trafficking and terminating green emission standards here. Play the sport. That is why effective immediately, we are repealing the ridiculous endangerment finding and terminating all additional green emission standards imposed unnecessarily on vehicle models and engines between 2012 and 2027 and beyond.

1:07:24 This action will save American consumers trillions of dollars and will lower the average cost of a new vehicle by close to $3,000. That's how he spent his day. Two things I want to hit on. Also, just super quickly, if you have the ability, watch the interview I did with Halley Robson, one of the survivors of Epstein. I've been doing long form interviews with survivors. You may have saw last week in Nushka, Georgia. And I spoke with Hely Robson who was sexually assaulted by Epstein when she was 16 years old in West Palm Beach. Watch that interview.

1:08:08 And it's important we tell the story of survivors. Go back and watch the full video I did on the ballroom because the ballroom is very close to being blocked right now by a federal judge. And now Donald Trump is arguing that if this is true, if he can't build, this is not true, but this is what he's arguing that if he can't build the ballroom, his life is placed in risk because of the rubble and because of destroying it and other factors like maybe asbestous or other things that are the health hazards that are being created right now by his own demolition. It need a ballroom needs to be built because his life is in jeopardy and also because he demolished the east wing. It's creating a logistical nightmare for the Secret Service. So that's why the judge will harm the Secret Service and harm Donald Trump's life if he's not able to build his bomb.

1:09:05 That's an actual argument that they're making in the brief. And then they're also arguing, and I said this, remember I said this several months ago and people thought again I was like a conspiracy theorist. I was like, you know, they're going to they're they're using taxpayer dollars to deal with the bunker underneath. I said, just like Hitler wanted to build the bunker underneath his ballroom. This is how authoritarians think. They're redoing that bunker that was built in World War II to withstand nuclear weapons because of Trump's paranoia. Ah, bunker bunker boy. You're talking about bunker the That's what's Trump submitted two classified declarations to the judge saying that the ballroom now presents a national security risk if it's not built because of what's happening that can't be talked about publicly. But two classified declarations from like the CIA and the director of national intel

1:09:58 were submitted to the judge and they're using national security as a pretext to say you can't block the president's ability to build a ballroom. So if you believe Donald Trump, which you shouldn't on anything, that it's being fully funded by private sources, that means that what a group of billionaires, oligarchs are doing something that's critical to our national sec or do you think more likely also the taxpayers are paying for this and Trump's a liar like he lies about absolutely everything? I think that he's a liar and lies about absolutely everything. Um, so so so there was that. I I I want to show two quick clips of I think really important aspects from the hearings of Bondi that's not getting enough attention. Um I think the most important document or types of documents that are being withheld were pointed out by Democratic Congress member Dan Goldman. Let me show you what he was able to show Bondi. This

1:11:01 document that was redacted. That's a conversation between Epstein and Gileain where Trump's lawyers and Epstein's lawyers I believe it's in here are talking about Trump's relationship with Epstein. Okay, this document is redacted. Focus on this document. This is a critical document and these are the types of documents that they're withholding and you'll see Pam Bondi says privilege privilege. It's a privilege document that's why I'm not producing it. Let's play it. I also found an email that I have right here from Jeffrey Epstein to Gileain Maxwell that was unredacted and it included notes of statements that Donald Trump made about his prior relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Now, there is no reason for this to be hidden from the American people. There is no privilege. There is no attorney client privilege. And I see you're checking with your staff. And I can assure you staff, this is not under

1:12:00 attorney client privilege because it was sent from Jeffrey Epstein to Gileain Maxwell. Will you commit to publicly providing the unredacted version of this so that the American people can understand the extent of Donald Trump's lies about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein?

1:12:19 You're about as good of a lawyer today as you were when you tried to impeach President Trump in 2016. Have you apologized for that in 2019?

1:12:27 So, will you will you unredact this? Will you unact on that? Privileged. I'm asking you, will you unredact this?

1:12:33 Privileged. Privileged. Of course. I look forward to discussing this more. Privileged. Privileged. I

1:12:41 mean, not not to mention technically he was successful with the with the impeachment. He got impeached though.

1:12:47 Privileged. And so they're using this idea that they get to decide and adjudicate that they're the judges over privilege claims such that they can withhold things on the grounds of attorney client privilege, deliberative process privilege. What would be the privilege, just think about it, of Gileain Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein talking to each other? What's the privilege of Gileain and Jeffrey? Wh what wh what wh what wh what wh what wh what wh what wh what wh what wh what wh why is that a privileged communication?

1:13:20 So just think about that document again. I don't care what political party you're from. That's what they're covering up right

1:13:25 and that's why there is no but but I like this part but but but not that part because the the butt there is that protecting pedos that they don't want that information. What wh why can't we see that email? What's going on there? You know what are they trying to hide? And I think the answer becomes quite obvious and the Trump regime's overall and complete involvement.

1:13:48 I'll just say this. I think I know what's in the document though just from if you connect a lot of dots right there. I believe it's an email from this all from the various sourcing that um I think it's Trump's lawyers sending an email to Epstein's lawyers in order to prevent Trump from being deposed in some of the Epstein cases saying that Epstein was never actually a member of Mara Lago but was always just invited as a guest. And Trump's DOJ wants to hide that because that would rebut Donald Trump's entire claim that he kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of the club.

1:14:23 And so I think that's what's behind those redactions. I think we need to see it. But if you piece together what Rasin said and other I think that's what's behind that document.

1:14:31 Yeah. And and you could say like, oh, you know, but I I thought they were allowing the members of Congress to see the unredacted files. They scrubbed them before. They scrubbed them before they're giving them access to this. So these documents, many of these documents were already redacted early on. Remember when we reported those FBI agents, they they assigned people to sift through and look for Trump's name and and black things out before they even handed over this trunch of documents. They were already blacked out. So these are just the additional redactions done since then that are being unredacted for the members of Congress. And then of course, as we mentioned earlier in this episode, they're also tracking the search the searches of the individual members of Congress who go into the DOJ to look at these things. They're giving them individual usernames and passwords and they are monitoring what they are doing

1:15:19 on these computers. And then they were trying to weaponize those searches in order to use in Pam Bondi's burn book when she was fighting back against them during this hearing. She had a list and it was seen in those photographs where it said each individual searches through the Epstein files. So everything they do makes them look guiltier and guiltier. It's one of those situations like Jordy said last time. Normally you'd say like the cover up is worse than the crime. The crimes are so heinous that I don't even think that's possible, but the cover up certainly ain't helping things out. And it just constantly is making them look guiltier and guiltier and guiltier. And it is clear that they are covering up a whole lot. And it is clear that they view their job right now as not lawyers of the United States fighting for justice is that's supposed to be Pam Bondi's job. There really isn't even supposed to be much

1:16:10 communication in general between an attorney general and the president of the United States. But Pam Bondi views her job and Todd Blanch views his job and his job was to be the defense attorneys of Donald Trump and that's what it comes down to and that's how they're behaving and that's why it's just so in the hearing. It was one of her quotes in the burn book. Donald Trump the best president of our lifetime.

1:16:34 Yeah. Like that's that's not normal. That's not that's not how an attorney general is supposed to speak, behave. It's not that's not what they're that's not what they're supposed to do.

1:16:41 You want to talk about weaponization, how they would always complain. Oh, the weaponization of the Biden. Y'all are looking at it right now daily in your face. that Bondi here that's going that'll go down in in the history books as one of the most embarrassing moments for the Republican party and and and there's no getting that stain off you once you are labeled a pedto protector that's who you are and that's who Pam Bondi is at her core you know look everything with them is projection I mean they're sociopath like they're real sociopathic people it's why earlier in the episode I just laid out like if you look at these people's backgrounds like their whole life they've been real demented sociopaths who have done demented and sociopathic things like in their entire life like bad people who all found each other in this bad heinous cabal right now. Two more things I want to point out. Number one, I mentioned

1:17:38 earlier in the episode that the Trump regime announced that it would be withdrawing from Minnesota. Tom Hman announced it earlier in the day that uh he said that we're gonna operation metro surge is over. I always say don't trust and always verify when it comes to the Trump regime. So, we'll see that a Trump appointed judge by the name of Nancy Brazil issued an order earlier, a few hours, an hour or so ago, saying that the Trump regime committed a mass violation of ICE detainees constitutional rights in Minnesota, effectively blocking their access to attorneys in the Whipple building. Kyle Cheny's reporting on this ruling. Um, Trump appointed judge. Here's what it says in the ruling. It appears that in planning for Operation Metro Surge, the government failed to plan for the constitutional rights of its civil detainees. The government suggests with minimal explanation and even less evidence that doing so would result in

1:18:39 chaos. The Constitution does not permit the government to arrest thousands of individuals and then disregard their constitutional rights because it would be too challenging to honor those rights. at this preliminary stage, plaintiffs have made a clear showing of likelihood of success on their fifth amendment claim right there. So, we'll follow that ruling. And then in the House, as I mentioned earlier, there was uh a vote where Maggamike Johnson failed to be able to put forward a rule that would have blocked any debate or votes for a year of Trump's tariffs against the world, including Canada, Mexico, and other places. So, Maggamike wanted to sneak in in a basic rule that just basically supposed to set like the time limits for debate, a rule that you're not allowed to have debates over tariffs, which is quite literally the core art, one of the core article one of the constitution functions. that was

1:19:39 voted down and then immediately once that vote was vote when that was voted down because voting on tariffs I won't get into the nuances of it but it's it's called a privileged resolution you're able to bring uh a vote on tariffs right away to the floor. So, a vote on Canada was brought to the floor yesterday in tariffs against Canada and by 219 to 211. Pretty big numbers actually. Uh the Trump tariffs against Canada were revoked by the House. Now, that has to go back to the Senate. They'll probably pass in the Senate and then Donald Trump's going to want to try Trump can still veto it. Then it would need a super majority uh in order to make it veto proof. Um but in any event, it has showed the cracks right now in um you know in in in in Trump's ability to hold together the floor. Trump sent out his threats. If you vote against it, I'm going after you. Blah blah blah blah blah. And it was still a 219 to 211. I

1:20:44 think we're going to see more of that. Donald Trump's approval is in the toilet bowl right now or it's already flushed down the drain. It's in like the the 30s, like lowest ever, lowest ever everything. The most hated and despised in history. Um, pretty much since the low point of Nixon. I mean, it's basically right there right now. American people hate this. As the cover up gets worse, I think people are going to continue to speak out. And then, um, I I'll just mention this as well. A George W. Bush appointed judge. Judge Leyon in DC granted Senator Mark uh Senator Kelly's preliminary injunction uh stopping uh Pete Hegsith from like demoting him and like retaliating against him. Uh and and the court basically wrote Hegsith would be wise to perhaps look at military leaders and others before him for guidance about how things were done for the past 250 years before Hexith. It's pretty scathing order. Um,

1:21:44 so covered a lot of topics here. Brett, anything else that we should cover before we go?

1:21:50 I think all this just shows how desperate they are. Honestly, it shows how weak they are. And you see it in the polling. You see that even a lot of these kind of MAGA voters and and Trump voters are no longer buying what they're selling. And I think the the way they've handled the whole Epstein situation was really uh an in for a lot of these people just to see how full of [ __ ] they all are and how really uh depraved that they are. And now it's just coming apart at the seams everywhere you look. And so I think as you see them trying to indict these members of Congress and as you see just everything that Donald Trump and these people are doing right now. Like to me you can't look at Pam Bondi in that hearing and not hear the panic in her voice and not see the panic in her face. And I think they know that this house of cards is coming down. We're going to keep following it all here. I want to thank everybody for watching.

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Who speaks in "LIVE: MeidasTouch RESPONDS to MAJOR BREAKING NEWS - 2/12/26"?

Ben Meiselas (Host), Brett Meiselas (Host), Jordy Meiselas (Host), Pam Bondi (Guest).

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The discussion focuses on the ongoing cover-ups within the Trump administration, highlighting Attorney General Pam Bondi's problematic hearing and the revocation of Trump's tariffs by the House of Representatives. Key issues include alleged spying by the Trump Department of Justice on lawmakers investigating the Epstein files, as well as recent legal victories against the Trump regime,…

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