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Trump PUT TO SHAME by Veterans for HORRIFIC CONDUCT

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Trump PUT TO SHAME by Veterans for HORRIFIC CONDUCT", an episode of MeidasTouch published December 18, 2025 (19 min, about 3,004 words). It mentions 15 people, works and ideas, including Russel L. Honoré, Jim Harbaugh, Stochastic terrorism, Hurricane Katrina, Chris Goldsmith.

What this episode is about

The discussion centers on former President Donald Trump's controversial comments regarding the murder of Rob and Michelle Reiner, which drew condemnation from some Republicans and highlighted his lack of empathy. The conversation delves into the implications of Trump's rhetoric, particularly its potential to incite violence against critics, and features insights from Chris Goldsmith, an Army combat veteran, on how such statements resonate with extremist groups.

Key takeaways

  • Republicans squirm, but Trump's provocation persists; his rhetoric's deadlier than a lost political career.
  • Stochastic terrorism: Trump's dark art of letting his words inspire violence while dodging direct blame.
  • Even GOP critics falter, unable to shed loyalty; Trump's emotional void taints political discourse.
  • Ken packs a punch: Trump's unchecked cruelty could stir moral outrage, but not revolution.
  • Trump's words, not rants; mimic past braggarts, inciting chaos with dictatorial instincts.

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 3:00: Jim Harbaugh, Chris Goldsmith, Stochastic terrorism, Veterans Fighting Fascism
  2. – 6:00: 25th Amendment, Stochastic terrorism
  3. – 9:00: Aura Frames
  4. – 18:00: Hurricane Katrina, On Offense
  5. – 19:03: Green Army, Hurricane Katrina, Man-made climate change, Valor Media Network

Notable quotes from "Trump PUT TO SHAME by Veterans for HORRIFIC CONDUCT"

  • Reiner at all in any way, shape, or form. I thought he was very bad for our country. Yeah, it's Scott Harbaugh with the Midas Touch Network. That was Donald Trump doubling down…
    about Jim Harbaugh · at
  • Show. You introduced me to a term years ago that sadly has become part of my political vocabulary and it's stochastic terrorism.
    about Stochastic terrorism · at
  • A normal sane country, Donald Trump would be removed from office if not by the 25th amendment than by the Congress. But unfortunately, we don't live in that world. He has…
    about 25th Amendment · at
  • The stores are packed and forget about finding parking. Aura Frames is the best lastminute solution. A gift that actually feels thoughtful and personal.
    about Aura Frames · at
  • Not familiar with him, General Honore became a household name actually while I was in Iraq in 2005 when Hurricane Katrina happened. He became the person on the ground…
    about Hurricane Katrina · at
  • Yeah. So General Honore since retiring has become a champion for what he calls the Green Army. It's an organization that he started.
    about Green Army · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Russel L. Honoré — Person · 5 mentions
  • Jim Harbaugh — Person · 2 mentions · first at
  • Chris Goldsmith — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Understands how this kind of rhetoric animates extremist organizations. You know who I'm talking about. Chris Goldsmith is an Army combat vet. He founded Veterans Fighting Fascism and is a literal Nazi hunter. Here's our conversation.
  • Mathew Freud — Person · 1 mention

Companies & orgs

  • Veterans Fighting Fascism — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Know who I'm talking about. Chris Goldsmith is an Army combat vet. He founded Veterans Fighting Fascism and is a literal Nazi hunter. Here's our conversation.
  • On Offense — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Yeah, reality has a way, right? what's coming up on offense? What have you got? What can you share with us? So, we've this week we've got our first our fourth episode coming out with General Honore. For those who are.
  • Green Army — Company · 1 mention · first at
  • Valor Media Network — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Out. you can find the Onoffense podcast anywhere you get your podcasts and it's on YouTube at the Valor Media Network.
  • Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) — Company · 1 mention

Concepts & topics

Sponsors

Full transcript with timestamps

President, a number of Republicans have denounced your statement on True Social after the murder of Rob Reiner. Do you stand by that post?

Well, I wasn't a fan of his at all. He was a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned. He said uh he liked he knew it was false. In fact, it's the exact opposite that I was uh a friend of Russia controlled by Russia. You know, it was the Russia hoax. He was one of the people behind it. I think he hurt himself in career-wise. He became like a deranged person. Trump derangement syndrome. So I was not a fan of Rob Reiner at all in any way, shape, or form. I thought he was very bad for our country. Yeah, it's Scott Harbaugh with the Midas Touch Network. That was Donald Trump doubling down on repulsive comments he made in a truth social post about the murders of Rob and Michelle Reiner. Even some Republicans were appalled enough by those comments to condemn them. Not enough Republicans.

Here is Mike Johnson practically running from reporters to avoid having to answer questions about Trump's post.

Mr. Speaker, did you see the Do you condemn Trump's post about what what do you what are your thoughts about what President Trump said about Rob Reiner at his press conference today?

I don't do ongoing commentary about everything that's said by everybody in government every day. We already know that Donald Trump is a despicable human being with seemingly no capacity for empathy or kindness. And we know that his enablers in the Republican party will do anything, including surrendering their own dignity, to defend him. But what's new is how much farther Trump is now going to excuse and provoke violence against his critics. That's what this truth social post was really about. It was a celebration of violence. I wanted to talk to someone who studies this, who understands how this kind of rhetoric animates extremist organizations. You know who I'm talking about. Chris Goldsmith is an Army combat vet. He founded Veterans Fighting Fascism and is a literal Nazi hunter. Here's our conversation.

Chris, welcome back to the Ken Harbaugh Show. You introduced me to a term years ago that sadly has become part of my political vocabulary and it's stochastic terrorism.

And I feel like what Trump does almost automatically like it's an animal instinct he has to provoke his followers to terrorize his political opponents or his critics. And we've known this for a long time, but it feels like this tweet about the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife is yet another example to us, but one that seems to have broken through to ordinary Americans about just how violent this man's soul truly is. Yeah. Donald Trump's goal is totalitarian control of the United States. I that is, I think, clear from everything that the man has ever done. Um I I imagine that you know pedantic people would want to argue with that and be like oh he's not a totalitarian. He would be if he were smart enough if if he possessed the capacity to exert that kind of control to to actually achieve that. That's where he would be. He's just simply doing everything he can, operating purely on instinct, which frankly is is

what fascist dictators before him have done. Hitler wasn't brilliant. In fact, uh you know, he he very well lost World War II. Uh Mussolini also not brilliant. What they are is braggadocious. Uh, and they they um you could maybe argue that they have a way with words and and rhetoric, but what they really really master is the ability to inspire violence in others against targets that that they uh want to to see obliterated. And in the case of um Donald Trump's latest tweet about Rob Reiner on his, you know, Teeu version of Twitter, he is effectively rewarding a murderer by uplifting them and being like, "This this is what you should expect. If you speak out against me, you should expect to get murdered." Um, this should be an impeachable offense. In in a normal sane country, Donald Trump would would be removed from office if not by the 25th amendment uh than than by the Congress. But unfortunately, we

don't live in that world. He has pushed the Overton window so far that even the most pure and raw and obvious form of stochastic terrorism that is choosing a target and and using language that motivates violence against them so that you have plausible deniability because you're not giving an order. Even the most obvious case of that, people are shrugging it off. Um, you know, I I am

Well, can I can I test that real quick because I I think you're right. When you look at the people immediately around Trump, when you look at his political sick offense, Mike Johnson running as fast as he can away from the question, literally, that is absolutely true. But I I'm hearing from people I normally don't hear from about how appalled they are, even Trump voters. Look, I I do a weekly radio show on a very conservative, syndicated AM station. just did it 20 minutes ago and uh you know the host wanted to talk about how over the line this this comment was. We're talking about Trump supporters, Trump voters.

Might this be one of those rare moments where the inherent decency of most Americans actually trumps their political loyalty?

I I doubt it. I I see people criticizing him and saying he's gone too far. I don't see them saying, "I'm gonna, you know, burn my MAGA hat and and vote against Donald Trump and his interests." The cruelty is the point. They just don't want it to be that naked and that indefensible. you know, if if they're fine with separating children from their mothers, deporting American citizens, children who have cancer, um you know, sending people to a a tent in a swamp that they're calling alligator Alcatraz. Those are the things that I'm more concerned with. Donald Trump's mean tweet is is just, you know, uh his his mask that's already off being a little more off, I guess. But until until those Trump voters start saying that they're going to organize against Donald Trump, their words don't matter to me. Last minute shopping during the holidays is the worst. You're running out of ideas.

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All of this only happens with your support. Every dollar that comes in through Substack and Patreon goes back into this show. And with the holidays coming up, you can give gift subscriptions as well. The links are below. Thanks for everything. Your support means the world to me. Back to the show. How do you understand that cognitive dissonance when you have people on one hand saying that that that tweet's indefensible, it's over the line. On the other hand, refusing to condemn pepper- spraying a one-year-old. Fact.

Refusing to condemn dragging pregnant women out of their cars. Fact. refusing to condemn the failure to provide basic medical care to detaines, including pregnant detainees, one of whom suffered a miscarriage in ICE detention fact. How do we have so many Americans who can endure themselves to those kinds of outrages, yet be offended when the murder of a celebrity is mocked by the president? It still baffles me. Uh, I I think that they see a white man who was murdered.

I I that's the that's the only difference I can think of in all of the examples that you just just named is is this time the victim was a white man. We have seen uh not just MAGA but the entire uh right-wing ecosystem Republicans um you know lift up uh white victims of crime uh as examples of people that we need to pass laws to honor when that family is like, "No, you guys are being racist. Stop using our dead relative for your political gain." And even with the request of of those families, the Republicans just keep doing it, too, because they know that their base are going to see a white victim of crime and they're always going to be sympathetic with it. Um that that is, I think, the only uh the only possible answer as as to why there's any sympathy for this man.

And that is a a devastating commentary. If there is a silver lining, it's that the power of those white voters is diminishing by the day just because of demographic reality. And I man I yeah I I'm I'm at a loss for words because I I think our our only hope if you're right is our kids generation taking the reigns and enough people who don't look like us um saying enough is enough and enough people who do look like us allying and saying because we are in positions of privilege we have an even higher responsibilities to stand between the ICE officer and the uh the victim who can't fight back. I I don't know your not a question there, but your thoughts.

So, I wouldn't consider myself to have been a very empathetic person at at 18. I I think that I would have said that I was and I think that I would have given clear examples of what makes me an empathetic person. But before I deployed to Iraq and saw real real human suffering, uh before I saw the terrible horrific like unmentionable things that human beings will do to each other, before I understood that level of cruelty, that that level of um malicious intent and lack of caring, until I saw it with my own my own eyes, I don't think I could have possibly been the person than I am today in in carrying that empathy for for all human beings in the same way. Uh I think that we are in a place in our country where not many people are truly suffering. Um, a lot of the MAGA base might be miserable and they might be resentful because they're not getting paid enough and instead of being mad at at the CEOs getting paid

225 times what what they are, they're mad at the system, you know, some faceless thing, right? But as we normalize things like troop deployments in our streets and as ICE starts going into more and more and more neighborhoods and as more everyday Americans go from, you know, cheering this stuff on on Facebook to seeing uh, you know, a mother ripped from her children out of a minivan in the school drop off line in front of them. personally until they're that close to it. I think that many millions of of MAGA Americans cannot possibly embody that level of empathy. And I I don't think that until the human suffering lands in their lap quite literally that they will change in any way. I

I think you might be right and this has become almost a a meme. The MAGA devote who is come face to face with reality and the effects of of the Trump regime's policies in their own lives, whether it be healthcare, uh, women's healthcare in particular, or someone that they care about being abducted by ICE, and then it has a transformative effect. And yeah, you you almost want to

I mean, you almost want to yell at them for it taking this long. But I think one of the things we have to do given that we still live in a democracy is find just enough room to get their votes and then maybe we can have uh we can have a little shot in Freud and justice. But we got to win.

Well, and I think that that suffering is is on its way. you know, between the the troop deployments, ICE ripping apart neighborhoods, the economy is showing signs of weakness, uh the vaccinations that are going to be harder and harder and harder to get over the the rest of Trump's presidency, uh and all of the other the the pollution that they are just unleashing across America, the national forests that they are gleefully destroying, Um, the the pain and suffering is coming in in many ways to many Americans who may not see or feel it yet, but when they start losing their healthcare subsidies, you know, they've they've been arguing with people on Facebook of like, oh, this is this is fake. This is not this is fake news. It's not a real story. When that bill comes, they're going to feel it. So I am quite confident that Trump imposed suffering will be felt by Trump supporters and they will start acting in their own

interests because it it gets too expensive to just keep um letting Trump punch them in the face with with policy after policy after policy.

Yeah, reality has has a way, right? Uh what's coming up on on offense? What have you got? What can you share with us? So, we've this week we've got our first uh our fourth episode coming out with General Honore. For those who are not familiar with him, uh General Honore

became a household name actually while I was in Iraq in 2005 when Hurricane Katrina happened. He became the person on the ground responsible for it. Uh after the Bush administration had all really already really bungled the response by not properly deploying and preparing FEMA, right? So, folks might be most familiar with him because of a clip of him getting out of a helicopter with a big cigar in his mouth and yelling at troops and cops to put their weapons down because the Louisiana governor back then had who was the commander of the National Guard for the state of Louisiana uh basically gave shoot tokill orders when they saw when anyone witnessed looting. um and he this this I believe threear general at the time um went and explained to the governor this is the United States we don't do that and these people are taking baby food they're they're taking formula that is not traditional looting

they are desperate if we can find it there is a sidebyside photo an overhead shot this was before drones this is taken from a helicopter So it's grainy of a black person carrying something out of a store and a white person carrying something out of a store. And you can imagine how different the captions are. Oh yeah.

One is foraging, the other is looting. Yeah. So So General Honore since retiring has become a champion for what he calls the Green Army. It's an organization that he started. him being a native Louisiana, seeing how devastating Hurricane Katrina was, a storm that that was made worse because of man-made climate change, has inspired him to to continue his service. It it is a really really great conversation. I'm looking forward to people checking it out. Um, you can find the Onoffense podcast anywhere you get your podcasts and it's on YouTube at the Valor Media Network.

Awesome. Thanks, Chris. We'll put the link in the show notes. Talk to you again soon.

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Questions about this episode

What is "Trump PUT TO SHAME by Veterans for HORRIFIC CONDUCT" about?

The discussion centers on former President Donald Trump's controversial comments regarding the murder of Rob and Michelle Reiner, which drew condemnation from some Republicans and highlighted his lack of empathy. The conversation delves into the implications of Trump's rhetoric, particularly its potential to incite violence against critics, and features insights from Chris Goldsmith, an Army…

What is mentioned in this MeidasTouch episode?

15 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Russel L. Honoré, Jim Harbaugh, Stochastic terrorism, Hurricane Katrina, Chris Goldsmith, Veterans Fighting Fascism. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Trump PUT TO SHAME by Veterans for HORRIFIC CONDUCT"?

The episode runs 19 min; the transcript is about 3,004 words in 31 timestamped sections.

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