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Trump’s Blue City Ultimatum & Transgender Malpractice Verdict
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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Trump’s Blue City Ultimatum & Transgender Malpractice Verdict", an episode of Morning Wire published February 2, 2026 (16 min, about 2,839 words). It mentions 13 people, works and ideas, including Donald Trump, Fox Varian, Don Lemon, Tim Pierce, Simon Chin.
What this episode is about
President Trump demands that Democratic-led cities manage their own crime issues without federal intervention, reflecting his stance on law enforcement responsibilities. Additionally, a New York jury's landmark verdict grants millions to a woman for damages related to irreversible gender surgery performed on her as a minor, highlighting ongoing legal and ethical discussions surrounding transgender medical practices.
Key takeaways
- Trump's 'please' strategy underscores a unique blend of governance and showmanship—politics as a polite power play.
- The anti-ICE protests highlight a rift; cities demand autonomy while the feds wait for a polite invitation.
- New York's malpractice verdict against gender surgery for minors raises vital questions on parental consent and medical ethics.
- Nurses training to resist ICE? A surprising twist in the healthcare narrative—should saving lives take precedence over immigration laws?
- Federal buildings may be protected, but Trump's rhetoric suggests a hands-off approach to local unrest—'your mess, your fix'.
Who speaks in this episode?
- John Bickley (Host) · 6 min speaking
- Tim Pierce (Guest) · 5 min speaking
- Megan Basham (Guest) · 3 min speaking
- Cameron Arcan (Guest) · 2 min speaking
What is discussed, and when
- – 3:00: Donald Trump, Don Lemon, Netsuite, Tim Pierce
- – 6:00: Tim Pierce, Dr. Jack Abbott
- – 9:00: Fox Varian, Simon Chin, Kenneth Einhorn, Jonathan Turley
- – 12:00: Don Lemon, Laya Jane, Khloe Kohl
- – 15:00: Don Lemon
Notable quotes from "Trump’s Blue City Ultimatum & Transgender Malpractice Verdict"
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about Netsuite · atRight. As Georgia said, Trump spoke to Democrats who run essentially all of America's major cities and he said that if they want federal help to stop unrest, they have to say please first.
about Donald Trump · atPlaces, organizers of these protests are facing push back, though. In Texas, for instance, Governor Greg Abbott has called for an investigation into the Austin public school…
about Dr. Jack Abbott · atDoctor's appointment. Yeah, my hands up, too. But now, our sponsor, Zockdoc, is here to help. Zukdoc is a free app and website that helps you find and book highquality in-et…
about Zocdoc · atLet's start with the basics. Who is the plaintiff in this case and what were his or her claims? Yeah, the plaintiff is Fox Varian and she is 22 years old, but back in 2019, she…
about Fox Varian · atThese doctors skipped some important evaluation steps. But that notwithstanding, some major legal experts like Jonathan Turley are saying that this case could be a model for…
about Jonathan Turley · atAnd then we had Laya Jane who had a mistctomy at only 13 years old. She's suing for fraud. She says that her doctors hid the fact that 80 to 90% of kids who believe they are transgendered.
about Laya Jane · atRole in an anti-ICE church disruption in Minnesota during the middle of a service. Now, the president slammed the former CNN anchor, a longtime Trump critic. Here's that from the president.
about Don Lemon · at
Who and what is mentioned in this episode?
People
- Donald Trump — Person · Referenced political figure / main speaker in clips · 2 mentions · first at
Central political actor in two segments: federal response to anti-ICE unrest and reactions to Epstein-file headlines and Don Lemon’s indictment. - Fox Varian — Person · Plaintiff / case subject · 3 mentions · first at
Named plaintiff in a malpractice verdict involving gender-related surgery as a minor; her case is framed as a potential model for future litigation. - Don Lemon — Person · Referenced public figure / defendant in described case · 4 mentions · first at
Discussed as a former CNN anchor indicted in connection with an alleged anti-ICE church disruption; Trump criticizes him in a quoted clip. - Tim Pierce — Person · Guest correspondent (Daily Wire reporter) · 2 mentions · first at
Provides reporting and context on Trump’s message to blue-city leaders and details of anti-ICE protests and related state-level responses.Right. As Georgia said, Trump spoke to Democrats who run essentially all of America's major cities and he said that if they want federal help to stop unrest, they have to say please first.
- Simon Chin — Person · Referenced expert / defendant surgeon · 2 mentions · first at
Identified as the plastic surgeon involved in Fox Varian’s surgery; found liable alongside Kenneth Einhorn in the malpractice verdict.Depression, ADHD, autism, or body dysmorphia. Instead, the jury found that the doctors rushed to approve this irreversible surgery. So Varian was awarded roughly $1.6 million…
- Kenneth Einhorn — Person · Referenced expert / defendant clinician · 1 mention · first at
Identified as the psychologist involved in Fox Varian’s care; found liable by a jury for failing to consider alternative explanations before surgery.York, and both doctors agreed to cut off Varian's breasts. A jury found Einhorn and Chin liable for failing to consider other possible explanations for Varian's mental health…
- Dr. Jack Abbott — Person · Referenced government official · 1 mention · first at
Cited as responding to protest-related school walkouts by calling for an investigation into the Austin public school system. - Jonathan Turley — Person · Referenced legal expert / commentator · 1 mention · first at
Cited as arguing the Varian verdict could serve as a model for additional lawsuits involving medical transition procedures for minors. - Precia Mosley — Person · Referenced plaintiff (related lawsuit) · 1 mention · first at
Presented as another plaintiff in the broader wave of litigation over youth medical transition practices; mentioned as having issued a statement after Varian’s verdict.Similar cases right now in the legal pipeline. One of those is Precia Mosley's. She's suing the hospital and doctors that put her on cross- sex hormones and puberty blockers…
- Laya Jane — Person · Referenced plaintiff / witness · 1 mention · first at
Cited as alleging fraud related to a mastectomy at age 13 and as having testified before the California State Assembly. - Khloe Kohl — Person · Referenced plaintiff (related lawsuit) · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned as bringing a similar case against Kaiser Permanente, framed as part of a growing litigation trend.And then we also have cases like Khloe Kohl's against Kaiser Permanente. That's set for trial next year, and Cole is alleging similar rushed approvals without adequate mental health support.
Sponsors
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Full transcript with timestamps
President Trump draws a hard line on anti-ICE riots, saying out of control blue cities must police their own streets or say please.
The crimebridge cities are all Democrat rotten cities. And if they want help, they have to ask for it because if we go in, all they do is complain.
I'm Daily Wire executive editor John Bickley with Georgia Health. It's Monday, February 2nd. This is Morning Wire.
In a landmark malpractice verdict, a New York jury awards millions to a woman who underwent irreversible gender surgery as a minor.
And the president fields questions on the new trove of Epstein files and the fate of Don Lemon.
Wolf was a third rate writer was conspiring with Jeffrey Epstein to hurt me politically or otherwise.
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Daily Wire reporter Tim Pierce joins us now to talk about Trump's pullback from these deep blue cities. Hey Tim. So, what was the president's message over the weekend?
Right. As Georgia said, Trump spoke to Democrats who run essentially all of America's major cities and he said that if they want federal help to stop unrest, they have to say please first. Here he was talking about that on Air Force One over the weekend.
If they want help, they can ask for it and they're going to need help. Los Angeles, as an example, we went in, we solved it. The chief law enforcement officer in Los Angeles said they couldn't have done it without the federal government. A week later he said they didn't need the federal government, you know, so we don't want that. If they want help, they'll ask, but they have to say please.
On True Social on Saturday, he was careful to note that federal buildings would still be protected by ICE, Border Patrol, and if necessary, the military, but to local and state officials, quote, "You must protect your own state and local property. In addition, it is your obligation to also protect our federal property buildings parks and everything else. We are there to protect federal property only as backup. Now,
as you pointed out, this message was posted on Saturday. That's a day after we saw these protests across the nation against ICE. Were those protests particularly violent? What did we see over the weekend?
Yeah, there were anti-ICE protests all over the US over the weekend that began with Friday's National Day of Protest against ICE. Thousands of people were in the streets from Los Angeles to New York City. And in essentially all cases, the protests were encouraged by Democrats. And yes, there was some violence. The president even noted one example in his true social post. In Eugene, Oregon, riers attacked a federal building. Police eventually declared a riot and broke it up, but not before demonstrators broke windows, entered the building, and scared the workers inside.
In Los Angeles, activists clashed with local law enforcement, similar to what has happened in Minneapolis. In certain places, organizers of these protests are facing push back, though. In Texas, for instance, Governor Greg Abbott has called for an investigation into the Austin public school system after administrators there allegedly allowed students to skip class to join Friday's protests. Abbott called it political indoctrination and said that Texas's education commissioner would investigate. Now, you mentioned Oregon there, and we have a report on Daily Wire about a nurses union in the state that's apparently holding trainings for its members to learn how to fight ICE.
What's going on there? Yeah, not behavior you would typically expect from medical professionals to say the least. This story was broken by the Daily Wire's Amanda Prejakamo and she reported that the Oregon Nurses Association is promoting training sessions to resist ICE and Border Patrol agents in hospitals. Now, that nurses group represents about 15,000 nurses across the state. So, this training is significant. In an email obtained by the Daily Wire, OA wrote to its members that quote, "Intimidation and the use of force create fear that keeps immigrant communities from seeking care until conditions become life-threatening. This fear directly interferes with our ethical, professional, and legal duties and endangers lives rather than protecting public safety. These trainings are obstensively on nurses legal and moral obligations to patients if immigration officers should happen to enter one of their facilities. But the
email said that the trainings would not be recorded or posted online, which did raise some questions from those who received it. When the Daily Wire reached out to OA, a spokesman defended the trainings, saying that the federal government is quote increasingly overstepping its authority and treading on the rights of local communities in Oregon, including patients, hospitals, and healthcare providers. Well, yet another example of this mass organization to resist or fight ICE, as that group said. Tim, thanks so much for coming on. Thanks for having me.
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Here with the details is Daily Wire Culture reporter Megan Basham. So Megan, let's start with the basics. Who is the plaintiff in this case and what were his or her claims? Yeah, the plaintiff is Fox Varian and she is 22 years old, but back in 2019, she was only 16 years old and because of some mental health issues that she was having, she then identified as a boy. So, she was referred to psychologist Kenneth Einhorn and plastic surgeon Simon Chin in Westchester, New York, and both doctors agreed to cut off Varian's breasts. A jury found Einhorn and Chin liable for failing to consider other possible explanations for Varian's mental health issues, things like depression, ADHD, autism, or body dysmorphia. Instead, the jury found that the doctors rushed to approve this irreversible surgery. So Varian was awarded roughly $1.6 million for past and future suffering and then she also received an additional $400,000 for
future medical costs. So $2 million you'd think would be enough to scare a lot of hospitals and insurers. Now what sort of precedent does this set for the issue of transitioning minors? We know that about half of states still do allow this.
Yeah. So technically the jury here did not rule on the ethics of these surgeries or treatments in general. What they did was they ruled on whether the doctors in this specific case met the appropriate standard of care. And the key reason that they found that they did not meet the appropriate standard of care is because they concluded that these doctors skipped some important evaluation steps. But that notwithstanding, some major legal experts like Jonathan Turley are saying that this case could be a model for other lawsuits over such surgeries performed on minors. and he points out that there are more than two dozen similar cases right now in the legal pipeline. One of those is Precia Mosley's. She's suing the hospital and doctors that put her on cross- sex hormones and puberty blockers when she was underage and then agreed to cut off her breasts when she was 18. She put out a video statement Saturday after news of
Barryian's verdict broke. No one deserves to be lied to, especially as a child, about the nature of medical transition, the risks, the harms involved, and Foxian deserved everything she got.
And then we also have cases like Khloe Kohl's against Kaiser Permanente. That's set for trial next year, and Cole is alleging similar rushed approvals without adequate mental health support. And then we had Laya Jane who had a mistctomy at only 13 years old. She's suing for fraud. She says that her doctors hid the fact that 80 to 90% of kids who believe they are transgendered will eventually just naturally choose to dransition. And she says that medical practitioners terrified her parents with this false choice. Essentially, they said, "Let her transition or she could very well commit suicide." So last summer, she testified before the California State Assembly.
Listen to my voice. Testosterone did this. My vocal cords are so large, I can't scream. Don't you dare trivivalize what happened to me.
So, if we see additional wins in some of these other cases for plaintiffs like Mosley, Cole, and Jane, the political battle over this may no longer really be relevant because hospitals and insurers are going to increasingly find it difficult to justify offering these kind of treatments given the litigation risk that they pose. Now, this has become an albatross issue for Democrats. Is this a sign that maybe the trans craze is coming to an end? Well, certainly what we can see in polling, Georgia, is that it is very unpopular with the American public, not just uh in the courts. So, a recent Pew poll found that 56% of Americans support banning so-called gender affirming care for youth. And that includes a majority of independents. And even 35% of Democrats now support banning. And that's up nine points since just 2022. So, a pretty quick swing there. Nevertheless, we do have 19 blue states that are currently
suing HHS over its effort to stop these practices when it comes to children. Well, this could become a watershed case. Megan, thanks for reporting. Yep, my pleasure. Washington is a buzz amid a series of major developments, including the release of more Jeffrey Epstein files and the arrest of Don Lemon. The president reacted to many of those headlines over the weekend on Air Force One. Daily Wire political reporter Cameron Arcan joins us now with the details. Morning Cameron. So where to begin? Let's start with uh Trump and Air Force One. What did we hear from the president?
So the first thing we heard was some of his thoughts on the latest dump of the Epstein files. I was down at the DOJ last week when they announced that 3.5 million files in total have been released. Another three million just this past week on those. They redacted every woman in those photos with the exception of Galileain Maxwell. Obviously, this came after Congress passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act in November. Now, Democrats have scrutinized the president in terms of his relationship with Epstein and his name being mentioned in the files. Now, the president has said in terms of this latest dump that it was quote the opposite of what people were hoping.
Here's what he had to say. This guy Wolf, who's a writer, was conspiring with Epstein to do harm to me. And I didn't see it myself, but I was told by some very important people that not only does it absolve me, it's the opposite of what people were hoping.
In Congress, the Clintons could be held in contempt this week over the House Oversights Committee probe into Jeffrey Epstein as the Clintons refused to testify before Congress. Now, in the committee level vote, several Democrats did side with Republicans on the matter.
Now, as we mentioned at the top, the president did address a lot of major storylines happening right now that are front and center in uh DC. He commented on the arrest of Don Lemon in particular. Refresh our audience on what's going on with that case. Don Lemon was released without bond late last week after he was indicted by a Minnesota grand jury for his alleged role in an anti-ICE church disruption in Minnesota during the middle of a service. Now, the president slammed the former CNN anchor, a longtime Trump critic. Here's that from the president.
He's a sleback. Everyone's known that he's a wash. Probably from his standpoint, the best thing that could happen to him, he's getting, you know, he had no viewers. see it. Who's a fail? Who's a failed host?
Daily Wire White House correspondent Mary Margaret Olahan has been closely tracking this story. Here's what she told us.
We got a hold of the indictment on Friday, and it really shows how Don Lemon and the eight other co-conspirators allegedly worked with the protesters to storm a Minnesota church on January 18th, leaving these terrified worshippers pretty much trapped from leaving the building. So he was arrested on Thursday evening charged with conspiracy to violate the right of religious freedom at a house of worship and violations of the face act. And before he allegedly stormed into the church, according to this indictment, Lemon had attended a preop briefing where organizers advised him of their target and I'm quoting here provided instruction on how the operation would be conducted once they arrived. Then when they got into the church, he allegedly oppressed, threatened, and intimidated the congregation and the pastors by quote physically occupying most of the main aisle and rows of chairs near the front of the church,
engaging in menacing and threatening behavior, chanting and yelling loudly at the pastor and congregation, and physically obstructing them as they attempted to exit and or move about within the church.
Lemon is ratcheting up his own media tour as CNN is reporting that he'll be on Jimmy Kimmel tonight. Now, speaking of the media, before we let you go, we had another major development related to Trump and the media. The White House is obviously thrilled about this. The new documentary featuring Melania. A lot of buzz about that. Tell us about that. Yes, the first lady's self-titled documentary earned 7 million this weekend, which is considered to be great news for a documentary style film. Unsurprisingly, according to Rotten Tomatoes, critics gave it a 10% whereas actual audiences gave it a 99%. I briefly stopped by the premiere at the Kennedy Center on Thursday. It was a who's who of Washington, and this film has definitely generated a lot of intrigue.
Well, certainly just 5 years ago, it would have been unimaginable to see a positive portrayal of Melania on the big screen, but here we go. Cameron, thanks so much for reporting.
Thank you. Thanks for waking up with us. And for those of you listening to the show, now you can watch for free on Daily Wire Plus. We'll be back later this evening with more news you need to know.
Questions about this episode
Who speaks in "Trump’s Blue City Ultimatum & Transgender Malpractice Verdict"?
John Bickley (Host), Tim Pierce (Guest), Megan Basham (Guest), Cameron Arcan (Guest).
What is "Trump’s Blue City Ultimatum & Transgender Malpractice Verdict" about?
President Trump demands that Democratic-led cities manage their own crime issues without federal intervention, reflecting his stance on law enforcement responsibilities. Additionally, a New York jury's landmark verdict grants millions to a woman for damages related to irreversible gender surgery performed on her as a minor, highlighting ongoing legal and ethical discussions surrounding…
What is mentioned in this Morning Wire episode?
13 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Donald Trump, Fox Varian, Don Lemon, Tim Pierce, Simon Chin, Kenneth Einhorn. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.
How long is "Trump’s Blue City Ultimatum & Transgender Malpractice Verdict"?
The episode runs 16 min; the transcript is about 2,839 words in 38 timestamped sections.
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