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‘‘Keep Your Fat Ass At HOME!’’ ICE Shooting With Nick Shirley & Adam Carolla

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "‘‘Keep Your Fat Ass At HOME!’’ ICE Shooting With Nick Shirley & Adam Carolla", an episode of Piers Morgan Uncensored published January 13, 2026 (49 min, about 8,777 words). It mentions 12 people, works and ideas, including Renee Mlin Good, ICE, Piers Morgan, Nick Shirley, Somali fraud.

What this episode is about

The discussion centers on a controversial shooting involving an ICE agent and a woman named Renee Good, highlighting the complexities of self-defense laws and the differing public perceptions of law enforcement actions. Key points include criticisms of both Good's and the officer's decisions in a tense situation, the emotional ramifications of the incident, and the debate over the categorization of Good's actions within the broader context of law enforcement and societal responses.

Key takeaways

  • In the chaos of self-defense claims, everyone is right—and also wrong. Context is king.
  • Renee Good's tragic end wasn't just a mistake; it laid bare the murky waters of policing.
  • Fraud exposure through viral media proves one thing: the truth can be a double-edged sword.
  • Tim Walz's non-re-election screams accountability, even if it’s a clumsy dance with public pressure.
  • In today’s media landscape, fraud isn't just financial; it's how narratives get formed and distorted.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Tim Waltz, ICE, Renee Mlin Good, United States (states)
  2. – 10:00: Renee Mlin Good
  3. – 15:00: Mando
  4. – 20:00: Renee Mlin Good
  5. – 25:00: Veracity, Nick Shirley
  6. – 30:00: Renee Mlin Good, United States (states), Joe Rogan
  7. – 35:00: Adam Corella
  8. – 40:00: United States (states), Adam Corella
  9. – 45:00: ICE
  10. – 48:56: Piers Morgan, Renee Mlin Good

Notable quotes from "‘‘Keep Your Fat Ass At HOME!’’ ICE Shooting With Nick Shirley & Adam Carolla"

  • Tim, Waltz, got, caught, red-handed., He could have stopped the fraud a long time ago. For that reason, he's decided not to run for reelection.
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  • She was given. But she's not a domestic terrorist, as many in the Trump administration have tried to say. She's the mother of a young boy, and she didn't surely deserve to die.…
    about Renee Mlin Good · at
  • Out and investigate the fraud, I obviously resonated with a lot of people knowing that fraud is happening here inside the United States and that we were able to show it open and blatantly for the people to see.
    about United States (states) · at
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  • That happen? Absolutely not. What happened instead? You had this deployment of these masked desperados 2,000 strong, descending on the community with attitude.
    about ICE · at
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  • Him and the never Trumpers don't. That's not true. If you look at Tim Dylan who's a proTrump podcaster Joe Rogan just today has said this was totally inappropriate and wrong.…
    about Joe Rogan · at
  • Well,, I'm, always, consistent, and, sort, of philosophical about this, which is you have to be very careful when people have guns and you don't, whether they're law…
    about Adam Corella · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Renee Mlin Good — Person · Central subject (shooting victim) · 8 mentions · first at
    Her fatal shooting by an ICE agent is the episode’s main news event and the basis for the legal, moral, and political debate.
  • Piers Morgan — Person · Host / moderator · 2 mentions · first at
    He hosts the episode, interviews Nick Shirley and Adam Corella, and moderates the panel debate while advancing a 'mistakes on both sides' framing.
    YouTuber whose work on alleged Somali fraud has prompted the federal investigations. Nick Shirley, welcome to our sensive. Thank you, Pierce. How's it going?
  • Nick Shirley — Person · Primary interview guest (first segment) · 2 mentions · first at
    He is interviewed about his viral investigative video on alleged Somali-linked fraud in Minnesota and gives his view on the Renee Good shooting.
    With the Article 3 Project, Tim Miller commentator with the Bullwalk, and first I'll be sp speaking to Nick Shirley, the YouTuber whose work on alleged Somali fraud has…
  • Tim Waltz — Person · Referenced political figure (criticized) · 4 mentions · first at
    Discussed as Minnesota’s Democratic governor who allegedly knew about fraud and then announced he would not seek re-election after Nick Shirley’s video went viral.
  • Adam Corella — Person · Second interview guest (reaction segment) · 3 mentions · first at
    He provides a behavioral/pragmatic framing: avoid escalating encounters with armed law enforcement; discusses ICE tactics and protest dynamics.
  • Joe Rogan — Person · Referenced media figure (opinion benchmark) · 1 mention · first at
    Cited by Tim Miller as an example of a pro-Trump-leaning platform/figure saying the shooting was inappropriate, to argue criticism is not purely partisan.

Companies & orgs

  • ICE — Company · Central institution in controversy · 3 mentions · first at
    ICE is the law-enforcement agency whose agent shot Renee Good and whose tactics (masked agents, raids) are debated as lawful enforcement vs militarized overreach.

Concepts & topics

  • Somali fraud — Concept · Core topic (alleged fraud pattern) · 1 mention · first at
    Nick Shirley’s reporting alleges significant fraud in Minnesota tied to Somali community members and related nonprofit/welfare programs, prompting federal investigations.
    Commentator with the Bullwalk, and first I'll be sp speaking to Nick Shirley, the YouTuber whose work on alleged Somali fraud has prompted the federal investigations. Nick Shirley, welcome to our sensive. Thank you, Pierce. How's it going?
  • Black Lives Matter (BLM) — Concept · Referenced movement (polarization context) · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned alongside George Floyd as a driver of heightened conflict and extreme reactions around policing in the U.S.
    The officer broke the law. the law should still be enforced. George Floyd and BLM led to ways of total insanity in the United States. Right now, looks like people on both sides of the argument have learned well pretty much nothing at.

Places & events

  • United States (states) — Place · Country context (law, politics, immigration) · 5 mentions · first at
    Used as the broader frame for debates about policing, immigration enforcement, BLM-era politics, and gun prevalence.

Sponsors

  • Mando — Product · Sponsor product (ad read) · 2 mentions · first at
    Advertised as a whole-body deodorant during the panel segment; not part of the editorial discussion.
  • Veracity — Company · Sponsor (ad read) · 2 mentions · first at
    Advertised for its metabolic protein product; not part of the episode’s political debate.

Full transcript with timestamps

That's fine, dude. I'm, not, mad. NO, I, think, everybody, made, a, mistake, in, this situation, but only one person got executed.

I'm, a, lawyer., I've, been, trained., I've read a lot about the law of self-defense. This was the most obvious self-defense shoot I've seen in quite some time.

Really?, She's, banging, over, a, grocery store parking lot. Will, how do you get out of Walmarts without shooting somebody?

Women, have, been, sort, of, weaponized. There's women screaming, "Shoot me! Shoot me!" at ICE officers. They're physically fighting with these people. Well, you're 48. You're morbidly obese and you you're not armed and you have no training, so they'll just knock you over.

Hello., We'd, like, to, ask, where, the money's going. What, was, this, money, spent, on?

Tim, Waltz, got, caught, red-handed., He could have stopped the fraud a long time ago. For that reason, he's decided not to run for reelection. Many millions of people around the world have now seen the distressing footage of an ICE agent fatally opening fire on 37year-old Renee Good. As every new detail emerges, the wildly opposing views on what happened and become only further entrenched. For many whose impulse is to defend law enforcement wherever possible, this video of the officer's perspective was the proof they needed that Renee Good was in the wrong.

Anybody who says they know definitively what was going on in either of their minds is lying. But it does seem clear that both made mistakes. Officers are trained not to stand in a vehicle's path and to not shoot at moving vehicles. Renee Good shouldn't have been obstructing the road, and she shouldn't have ignored the very clear instruction she was given. But she's not a domestic terrorist, as many in the Trump administration have tried to say. She's the mother of a young boy, and she didn't surely deserve to die. It's easy to be an expert after the fact, and this was clearly an emotional and chaotic few seconds for both of the people involved.

The officer broke the law. the law should still be enforced. George Floyd and BLM led to ways of total insanity in the United States. Right now, looks like people on both sides of the argument have learned well pretty much nothing at all. We'll be debating all that with journalist and commentator Haraldo Rivera, Will Chamberlain, senior council with the Article 3 Project, Tim Miller commentator with the Bullwalk, and first I'll be sp speaking to Nick Shirley, the YouTuber whose work on alleged Somali fraud has prompted the federal investigations. Nick Shirley, welcome to our sensive. Thank you, Pierce. How's it going?

Good., I, mean,, when, you, listen,, all, due respect, I'd never heard of you until about two weeks ago. And then suddenly you're the guy who's made the video watched by about 140 million people. First of all, what's that been like for you?

Yeah,, it's, been, uh, interesting., I've been doing YouTube making these like documentary style journalism videos for a very long time now, for over two years. And so, and I've known about this fraud happening for a while. And so when I was able to meet up with the man by the name of David in that video to go out and investigate the fraud, I obviously resonated with a lot of people knowing that fraud is happening here inside the United States and that we were able to show it open and blatantly for the people to see.

You, have,, I, believe,, uh, part, two, uh coming out imminently. What can you tell me about what's in that?

Yeah,, so, the, daycare, fraud, is, only, it's only one part of the fraud. There's a lot of more fraud that's happening in Minnesota, especially with these companies called non-emergency medical transportation vehicle uh companies that kind of uphold a lot of the fraud. So that way these companies and these they're able to continue getting money with these welfare programs.

You've, been, criticized, by, a, lot, of people and praised by a lot of people. uh Tim Waltz, Minnesota's Democratic governor, uh announced he wouldn't seek re-election in the uh aftermath of your video going so viral. Uh in the days before the announcement, he said you were, he said, "Miss on X, a far-right YouTuber, a delusional conspiracy theorist, but then he made his own announcement about not seeking re-election." What's your message to Tim Waltz?

Yeah,, I, think, Tim, Waltz, got, caught red-handed. He's known about the fraud since 2019. He's been saying he's been fighting fraud for that long. He's even said that organi organized crime is happening is at a fault for a lot of the stuff that's happening inside Minnesota. And so he could have stopped the fraud a long time ago and he knew about the fraud for very long time. So for me to go there and with one day show the fraud happening openly for everyone to see obviously Tim Waltz he got caught and u for that reason he's decided not to run for reelection.

You've had people in mainstream media being quite sneering about you and your journalism, but conversely, do you think mainstream media has failed the American people by not doing the very kind of thing that you were doing in this video?

Yeah,, 100%., Everyone, else, had, the opportunity as well to go and make this video and go talk to people and hear what a lot of people were messaging me about this fraud. That's why I went and did the video because that's what motans wanted me to do.

I, had, received, thousands, of, messages beforehand. Have, you, had, uh, a, bad, reaction, in, terms of people threatening you since this?

Yeah,, I, mean, obviously, when, you, expose fraud, a lot of the fraudsters are going to be upset and then it turned into a race and political issue and I was just going to show fraud that was taking place. This was never meant to be a right or left issue. It was just to show that fraud is happening and that fraud is bad. And then you see how it becomes a race and political issue. And that was never the intention of the video.

I, mean,, one, of, the, the things that's happened is a lot of people have come out and they kind of tired the whole Somali community with the same brush of being fraudsters. That's upset a lot of people in that community who are not criminally minded. What do you feel about that? Yeah, it's tough because the fraud that's happening in Minnesota, 89% of the fraud that is happening is from Somalians. And so that's just a fact about, the, issue, is, that, a, lot, of the fraud being committed is by Somalians. There's also a white woman who was in charge of feeding our future who's locked up in prison. And then you also had a man who got convicted in charge of $7.2 million in Medicaid fraud, but a white liberal judge let him walk and reversed that. So you're seeing how this political correctness has enabled this fraud to happen.

What, do, you, feel, now?, We're, going to bring the rest of the panel in in a moment, but but this video of the ICE officer shooting uh Renee Good. What is your We've all had a chance to watch this from multiple angles now for the last week. What is your view about what happened?

Yeah,, it's, super, sad, and, I, I've, gone, to these protests. I've talked to these people and it she put herself in a position where the officer was duty bound to protect himself as well. The officer obviously doesn't want to feel like his life's in threat and she shouldn't be putting the officer's life in threatened. Do I think he should have shot her? I don't know. I'm not in the position of the officer, but like I said, he's duty duty bound to protect himself and she shouldn't have put herself in that position. She knew what she was doing. She was impeding a federal law enforcement investigation.

But, you, actually, think, she, was, trying, to run him down? I do. If you watch the video, um, she was obviously aiming towards there and then there's even a moment before where she hit the gas and the tire didn't catch tread. Who knows what would have happened if the tires did catch tread and she was able to do it and her girlfriend was saying, "Drive, baby. Drive."

But, that, could, be, just, to, get, away rather than run anybody over. Yeah,, that, could, be., But, if, you, watch the video, her tires are aimed at the officer and she she hit the gas and luckily her her tread did not catch beforehand as well.

Okay,, let's, bring, in, the, rest, of, the panel. You're going to stay with us Nate. Tim Miller, this has been an unbelievably divisive story, um, you know, my view is having watched this many times now from every possible angle is that everybody involved made mistakes. uh but that ultimately that woman should not have been shot dead and no one can persuade me otherwise. I do not believe the videos collectively showed her deliberately trying to run anybody over and in fact her demeanor prior to this happening a few seconds earlier is the converse of being confrontational. So there's no suggestion there that she had any malicious intent towards running people over and yet she's dead. What's your view of of this?

Yeah,, I, got, to, tell, you,, I, don't, know what Nick was looking at if he thought that she was aiming for him. Um, I I agree with you, uh, Piers. Uh, I think everybody made mistake in this situation, but only one person got executed and so I think we should look into why that was and what happened there and just be honest about what happened. Um he he greeted like uh the the officer um Jonathan Ross had seen her as you mentioned 20 seconds before he shot her and and she said to him "That's fine, dude. I'm not mad at you."

She was smiling. He could see into the car. There's a dog in the back seat. There are children's um their children's toys in the passenger seat of the car. And and then he walks around to the front. She's backing up and as she starts to move away, this car is moving like 2 miles an hour. It's not moving any faster than any car does in any grocery store parking lot anywhere in America. The the the the wheel is clearly uh pointing away, moving away from him. And then he shoots her not just one time, but then he shoots her a second time and a third time through the side window. Like when he fires the third shot, he's completely to the side of the car. He's not in any danger at all.

And so I just don't see how anybody could see this and think that this person like legitimately felt like his life was in danger. I'd also note there he has a couple colleagues that are standing there. None of them pulled their weapon. None of them thought seem to think his life was in danger. And then after the car with the dead driver uh gets goes away, he walks to it easily and and he calls her a [ __ ] [ __ ] So I I I just look I think this is a very clear situation. I think everybody trying to make this complicated or trying to say she tried to kill him.

They either like they either um are just intentionally spinning for the administration because they're hacks or like maybe they're just very easily scared individuals who I I don't know how you would get through life um with by by, thinking, that, somebody, in, that situation was going to kill themsel was was in danger of

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Shopman.com. Please support our show and tell them that we sent you. Mando's got you covered. Well, saying that people are scared when they're acting in lawful self-defense is offensive. Uh, basically every way that uh Tim characterized that was just unbelievably uncharitable to the police officer who clearly shot in self-defense. He was directly in front of the vehicle when Miss Good hit the accelerator. Now, maybe she was going to continue turning, but maybe she wasn't. He was 2 feet in front of it. Um, and that woman had justified a lawful order to be detained. I mean, we have to understand before this happened, and that's not again not to say that she deserved to be shot, this execution thing is is so frivolous because it's not about her being given punishment for her actions. It's about her creating the scenario in which another person felt a reasonable fear of deadly injury. Well she committed multiple felonies in this

context. Parking her car in the middle of in middle of the road, obstructing a law enforcement investigation, and then finally this aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. car is not a trivial thing. And I mean, you think about police stops all over the country. The primary danger is people fleeing in their vehicles with two T, you know which are two tons of metal coming at them. Um, it's and it's also not just self-defense. It's defense of others as well. There's you and I will be dragged along.

All, right,, but, Will,, you, and, I, had, an exchange on X about the whether this constitutes domestic terrorism. I think that's such a ridiculous

phrase, to, use, about, what, we've, all witnessed with our own eyes here. She's not a domestic terrorist. She wasn't trying to commit an act of terrorism against this ICE officer. Now, I happen to think that what may be a key part of this is that it emerged that six months earlier, the same ICE officer had been dragged by a car in a similar situation hundreds of yards and had suffered injuries and probably a lot of trauma. Right? We don't know how much trauma but how much was that playing on his mind when he's there? He's ignored his training, which is that ICE officers should not be standing in front of a car in that situation. Nor should they fire at a moving vehicle. That's that's what they're told. They're trained not to do.

That, last, part, is, certainly, incorrect. When you're you are allowed to fire at a moving vehicle in self-defense or in defense of others

right?, If, you, genuinely, think, your, life is in is in danger, right? Now the question so so the question is

that's, not, that's, not I'm, sorry., How, does, firing, at, a, moving vehicle make you more safe? This doesn't even make sense. Uh peers I mean again she's barely moving. If you shoot someone as we saw with that car if you shoot someone driving

I, think, the, point, I'm, making, they're going to lean forward and press on the gas dangerous but this side of the car the point I'm making the point I'm making is we don't know what was in anyone's minds. I think it's quite likely that what was in the mind of this ICE officer is what happened to him six months earlier. Right? And it may be that he panicked because he feared the same thing happening again. I'm not excusing or justifying what he did. I'm explaining what may end up being one of the factors involved here. It doesn't seem to me to be irrelevant that the same guy was dragged by a car and could potentially have been killed in that incident six months earlier. Well, my point is you're ignor everybody is ignoring the original sin. Hold on a second. I haven't spoken yet. Everybody is ignoring the original sin, which was to use a brigadesized deployment of paramilitary forces to

presumably or reportedly or uh the the pretense was to go after the worst of the worst of the criminal aliens. Did that happen? Absolutely not. What happened instead? You had this deployment of these masked desperados 2,000 strong, descending on the community with attitude. There was hostility on both sides from the from the get-go. And what in the world are paramilitary forces doing enforcing immigration law to begin with? This was a bait and switch. This was using the the the spectre of immigration. I'm surprised they didn't bring in uh you know, transgender uh you know, aliens. Uh this was absolutely a fraud. This was a catastrophic failure.

What did they get for all this? Aside from the dead Renee Good, the day the dead woman, what did they get? They say they arrested 500 or detained 500 undocumented immigrants so far in this operation in Minneapolis in the Twin Cities. 500. How many of the 500 were the worst of the worst? Is it not a fact that 70% of the American people oppose the way uh this deployment has gone down? The Trump administration set the stage for this catastrophe, this this tragedy to happen. The southern border peers, as you pointed out correctly, has been sealed now for months. There's zero in in influx of undocumented immigrants.

So if the if the supply of the problem has been cut off, isn't it time now for President Trump to use some common sense and some compassion for God's sakes?

Okay., Compassion., Respond. Yeah., Will, you, respond?, Yeah. Yeah., First,, I, mean,, is, there, some, list of federal laws that federal authorities are not allowed to enforce? you should probably inform them of that. I think that's a little bit ridiculous. And second,, if, we're, going to

talking, about, what, are, you, talking nonsense? You're talking nonsense. You're, basically, saying, the, federal government is not allowed to enforce immigration law because you actually need to bring in large numbers.

They, are, allowed, to, enforce, immigration laws. What they are not allowed to is to impose a police state with attitudes and long guns. When would when did you see if you want to know who's at fault for the mass cops? I don't know how much police work you've done. I've done a lot for the last over 50 years. You don't bring masked, heavily armed SWAT team uh, effectively SWAT team or or Delta Force, a kind of combatants into a situation where the problem is undocumented immigration. If that's the problem, you go and you pursue the normal ordinary reasonable prudent ways of dealing with the social problem.

It's immigration. As I said, the supply has been cut off of immigrants. Now's the time. What about the dreamers? The kids brought here at an early age who've been here and and and committed no crime. Isn't it hard for them to get

I I, think, you're, specific is undocumented immigration. Isn't that what you're talking about? Illegal aliens so-called.

Isn't, that, they, can't, be, masked?, They're masked because the radical left and Antifa

cops, are, never, masked., State, troopers are, never, masked., If you're, mad, about the policy question, can I can I just make this point? If you're mad about the policy problem, which is the fact that the administration needs to send in militarized forces, forces that are ready for responses, that's because Minnesota has sanctuary state policies and doesn't cooperate with detaining criminal aliens. In other states, they don't need to send in vortacely at the warehouse. It's the Minnesota state authorities that are responsible for creating dangerous situations like the one that happened in Minneapolis.

Okay. But look, I I Haraldo, we can obviously none of this is irrelevant but in terms of the actual incident itself, what do you feel about what happened there? In my heart of heart, and remember I I've covered every war in Central America, every war in Middle East Afghanistan, 11 assignments, Iraq, 11 assignments. I've seen guns and guns and firing and uh and you know when to use your gun and when you don't use your gun. That was absolutely a a an awful awful mistake by those officers who aggressively sought to confront as you could as you peers have clearly laid out. The woman in that car presented no threatening image. Look at the car. This that's the that's the the weapon that makes her a domestic terrorist. That car moving at 2 miles an hour, then 5 miles an hour. The wheels clearly turn to the right. Come on. I'm sick of sick of the the excuses. It's one thing to have ideology and be as as

conservative as you want to be, but don't make up a situation wi with the it fails right there. When you say domestic terrorist, I covered Timothy McVey, 1995 Oklahoma City. You want to see a domestic terrorist? He killed 168 American men, women, and children. That's a domestic terrorist. Or the uni bomber. That's That's how I felt.

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Yeah., I, just, feel, it, trivializes, the phrase to the point where it becomes meaningful.

Absolutely., Absolutely. Let, me, bring, Let, me, bring, Nick, Shirley back in here. I mean the thing is Nick because of camera phones now so much of his stuff we can analyze for ourselves. I think that when you see JD Vance Donald Trump, and others, and they try and tell us something that we just haven't seen with our own eyes, in other words, they want us to look at a video in a way that just doesn't represent what we watched. No one can convince me that what we saw there was a woman whose demeanor leading up to that was intent on causing harm to that officer and who then wanted to run him over. I've just seen nothing that shows that. Now, if it did, I would say so. I think part of the problem with these stories is everyone takes their their partisan political position to its extremity immediately almost as a defensive mechanism. In other words, the left immediately took the position right. This is obvious

clear evidence that IS are a bunch of Nazis, and they murdered her in cold blood and blah blah blah. And then the people on the right immediately go the opposite way. This woman brought it on herself. She's a radicalized left-wing lunatic. She's a lesbian. She's this. She's that. And I think all of that is wrong. All of that distorts the debate about what happened here, which is I think everybody made mistakes. She shouldn't have behaved the way that she did. He shouldn't have done what he did. It was a situation which we've watched in slow freeze frame, but actually in real time was very, very quick. And I think this guy was suffering from a little bit of trauma from what happened to him a few months earlier. And he reacted instinctively. And it may well be he genuinely did fear that he was going to get hurt, but he shouldn't have been in front of the car to start with.

That's against their training. So all of it was governed by a series of errors. Why can't it just be that? Why can't we all just be honest about what we've watched? Yeah, it's an ugly situation on both sides, right? You have a lady who's impeding a federal law enforcement investigation. She shouldn't be in the middle of the road. And then if you watch the body cam footage from the ICE officer, he did get hit. And that same officer had been dragged 300 ft beforehand just a few months ago. And so who of us is to say whether or not we felt like his life was at threat? Maybe he felt like his life was at threat and therefore that's why he shot. And why is that lady impeding a federal law investigation in front and has her car stopped while they're doing a targeted ICE raid? And so there obviously there's wrongs on both sides, but you can't justify. No one wants to see a woman get killed, but you can't also say, well

that officer was in the wrong because maybe he did think that his life was at threat. And when we watch the video it's instantaneously. It's within a few seconds. Well, it's interesting, Tim Miller because

Yeah,, Tim,, I, mean,, the, point, I, would make, Tim, is that from a purely legal perspective, put aside the morality of what happened or anything else, from a pure lawful perspective, I suspect it's quite likely that this officer will not end up being successfully prosecuted for this.

Look,, that's, going, to, be, a, question, for a jury, peers. at the point look people are on the right a lot of folks are praising Nick for for just honesty in journalism when when they felt that there was you know not honest things were being said about the daycarees can we just be honest about this like there is no way this person's life was at risk the third shot no one will just no one will address this the third shot that he shoots the third shot he is to the side of the car he shoots her through the through the driver's side window the car has already passed him and then he calls her a [ __ ] [ __ ] Like this guy's life is not a threat. You're trying to make this and others they try to say it's to both sides saying oh it's a partisan. Obviously the Trumpers defend him and the never Trumpers don't. That's not true. If you look at Tim Dylan who's a proTrump podcaster Joe Rogan just

today has said this was totally inappropriate and wrong. Piers, you know at times you've called it both ways but you've been friendly with Trump. You're seeing it clearly. the only 28% of the country in a recent poll said this shoot uh was appropriate including only 64% of Republicans like no any 10% of independents nobody who looks at this with open eyes can think this was justifiable I'm sorry that's just like we should just be honest about this like there is no way to kill that woman toys in the passenger seat

well, Will, Chamberlain, why, do, you, say, Tim Miller is making that up well, he's, He's, essentially, accusing, all of us of bad faith. Like, I'm a lawyer. I've been trained. I've read a lot about the law of self-defense. This was the most obvious self-defense shoot I've seen in quite some time.

Really? And, the, Come, on., Absolutely., He's directly in front of the car. Two feet in front of the car grocery store parking lot. Will, how do you get out of Walmart without shooting somebody? I I'm hoping you don't you're not carrying a weapon when you're going through the gun most arrest regularly flee arrest arrests by police officers. Is this like the normal thing on the left now? Like apparently like you guys are all for law enforcement until it comes time to actually enforce the law.

How, Hey,, Will,, I, have a, question, for you. How many people do you think should have been murdered on January 6th? How many people do you think the capital police should have killed that day? How many just based on your theory of self-defense like how many people have killed anybody in the sense that I don't think Renee Good should have been killed but I actually think the Ashley Babbot using the just self-defense because how many justifiably could have been good put in Ashley Babbot she could well I think yeah but I think who needed

but, will, the, argument, you, and, I, had, Will was about this phrase domestic terrorism and I made the point which other people had raised anyway which is, you know that was on January the 6th. By that criteria, by that criteria, you could argue that everyone that was violent that day was a domestic terrorist. Would you agree with that?

You, think, they, would? I, agree., I, think, I, have, a, very, I, have, a broader view of domestic terrorism than apparently you do. The use of violence or the threat of violence for political ends in this country is domestic terrorism. And by that definition, both Renee Good and Ashley Babbot were domestic terrorists. Uh I have no problem saying that. I don't I don't think that applies to the people who were peacefully walking through the capital, for instance. That's not that's not violence. But anybody who tried to swing at a cop on January 6th, yeah that's domestic terrorism. I said that on that day.

All right,, Haraldo., Haraldo,, what, do, you feel? I mean, we've discussed the domestic terrorism part, but we are living in a weird time where we all watch the same video and yet many people can have completely different interpretations of what they're watching. And I fear a lot of it, I'm not saying this about will. Um, only you know, but I'm not disputing that you you're saying what you're saying in good faith. But I think so many people now do say stuff in bad faith. They they will see something and if it doesn't suit their own side's agenda, they will argue black is white. They just will because that's where we've got to. And it's fueled by social media. And I also think social media is responsible for a lot of what was going on with the two women here with Renee Good and her partner where you see the the partner actively goading the ICE officers all on camera as well to make herself a bit of a

social media hero perhaps. All of this is fueled by social media. But where does that leave us as a society?

I, think, that, that's, an, excellent question. But I think the lit the litmat lit litmus test for this particular situation or this population let me you cannot if you have to wear a mask when you go to work then inherently there is dishonor in the work that you're doing there's a reason why no law enforcement absolutely not in the United States of America wear masks but for ICE agents not even everybody in customs and border patrol wear masks. It is specifically for this population. Why is that? We have to ask ourselves why is it that unique in all of the hundreds of thousands of law enforcement officers these this cadre is is maskearing. It is because I submit they are doing work that is inherently unpopular. They said they were going after the worst of the worst and instead they're going after uh Rosa the baker or Pablo the uh the snow shoveler.

It is a copout. I call on the president to end it. Stop sending military units to enforce this specific law. Be patient. You have stopped the supply of undocumented immigrants into the country. Be patient now. Go after the worst of the worst. do police work, get warrants, get named warrants, stopping Latinos on the street because they happen to be brown and there's a probability or possibility that they're here without proper documentation. Sort out the a chaotic system and make it fair. I just think that what happened in Minneapolis was an accident waiting to happen.

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I, I, just, want, to, quickly, add parathetically that I congratulate the young journalist who exposed the fraud in the Somali community in the Twin Cities. I thought it was really uh it was it was gutsy, ballsy uh you know street reporting. I'd like I'd like to think that that's the kind of stuff that I was doing in the in the 70s and 80s and 90s, you know, but I a good a good a good was done. But I also submit that go to any community in the country.

They, we, threw, money, at, all, of, these nonprofits during COVID. We just the president and then the first Trump and then Biden. All they wanted was the economy to stay whole during the epidemic. They threw money at everybody. They allowed people to take wheelbarls full of federal cash out of the building without uh proper documentation or followup of any kind. There was I I think that what's happening with the Somali community will be replicated from coast to coast if we have any guts in the justice department.

Yeah., Okay., I, got, to, leave, it, there., I know Tim, you got to get get off. Uh thank you all very much indeed for a fascinating debate. Appreciate it.

Thank, you., Thank, you., Well,, joining, me now with his reaction to the shooting in Minnesota is the host of the Adam Corella Show, Adam Corella. Adam, great to have you back on Uncensored. This is one of those stories where I saw so many people take an immediate position before anyone really knew exactly what had happened or why it may have happened or understanding the motivations of the people involved, which is kind of a sign of the times, I guess. And then as more and more video footage emerged, people got ever more entrenched into their views. What's your view about what happened here?

Well,, I'm, always, consistent, and, sort, of philosophical about this, which is you have to be very careful when people have guns and and you don't, whether they're law enforcement whoever they are. If a person has a gun and you don't, you probably shouldn't spit on them or threaten them in any way or do anything. And you can say, "Well that's that's wrong. Uh maybe it is and maybe their training should be better or maybe they should be less human." But uh they still have a gun and you don't. So we should start just sort of based on that. Whether it's a cop pulling you over or who know who, by the way, who knows? That guy could have caught his wife having an affair the night before.

Could have been drinking that day. You know what, I, mean?, I, I'm, just, saying people go, "Oh, well, the cop was wrong." I think the cop was wrong, but I still would like to see nobody get shot by cops. So for the time being, treat them like people that have guns and you don't. And doesn't mean you can't protest and doesn't mean you can't debate. But when it starts getting into automobiles or spitting or pushing, now you're getting into a gray area where they may use their gun. You see, I think everybody here made fundamental mistakes probably based on in the cop's case or the ICE officer's case a false presumption that she was trying to cause him physical harm or run him over. He might well have believed that. I think it's very relevant, as I've discussed earlier, that a few months earlier he was in a very similar situation as Guy and he ended up being dragged by the car for several hundred uh yards. I don't

think that's irrelevant at all. I think in that moment he may have feared the same thing was happening and may genuinely have feared for his safety. Right. So, who knows what was going but we don't really know what was going through his mind.

No,, but, what, what, what, I'm, saying, is, is if a cop has a gun and you don't and all of a sudden you make a quick move to grab something out of your pocket, he may shoot you.

Right., And, what, I'm, basically, saying, is don't make that quick move. Just, comply,, comply,, comply., Because, we every single one of these tragic shootings, it doesn't matter. You know here in the United States, we never get tired of talking about white cops shooting black people, motorists, and blah blah blah. 99.9% would be solved with compliance.

It, would, never, happen. I, totally, agree., I, mean,, I, would, aridad as a non-American who's who's put his head over the parapit on this issue many times, not entirely successfully, that the presumption by law enforcement quite understandably, in a country with 400 million guns in circulation, is that everyone they pull over may be armed and they don't know who they really are or what they may do. And therefore, to your point, if you do absolutely nothing and do exactly what law enforcement tell you, then you're going to avoid a situation where any trigger movement of any kind may in their heads make them think there could be a gun involved or whatever and they have to shoot you.

And, also, the, problem, with, human, beings, and I mean you can say cops, you can say training all you want, but at the end of the day, it's a human being. if you have a weapon, if I have a gun, and there's even a 2% chance you could hurt me, cuz people do this all the time. They go "Well, the cop shot the guy." Well, all the guy had was a butter knife, or he's just swinging around uh a bowling pin or something like that. You go, I if I have the gun and you don't, and there's 1% chance you could hurt me, whether it's a car or a butter knife, then often times the person with the gun will do it, even if the odds are greatly in their favor.

that meaning are not taking any chances. You know, they go, "Was she trying to run him over? I don't think she was trying to run him over. That doesn't look like her wheels were turned." Doesn't matter. That guy has two ten of a second to decide whether he's trying to be run over or not. And he's the one with the gun. So, do not put yourself in that position, everybody.

Yeah., And, there, are, other, parts, of, this story like you know what is a young mom doing out there protesting in the way that she was doing you know parking the car in the middle of the road blocking the ICE officers from doing their work and so on. It's clear from her uh her partner who was there that this was a planned thing a planned resistance if you like. Uh we don't know the full extent yet of the group they were part of and so on. But all of these are not irrelevant aspects to this story. You know, there is a kind of slight dementia with people towards these issues which I think and I think you've said this that people go slightly nuts and and they lose their natural sense of caution.

Yeah., Well,, a, couple, things., So,, just, to to summarize what I've said a million times about this or any other shooting any situation like this, I basically say this. You may decide that you would like to steal your neighbor's barbecue, which they keep on their back porch, and use it for yourself. And nine times out of 10, you can hop over your neighbor's fence and grab his barbecue, and it'll be yours. But one time out of 10, he may be cleaning his gun in the backyard and you may get shot. And then people will say, "The barbecue was $50. You deserve to get shot over $50." And the answer is no. But once you jump over the fence

you're, opening, it, yourself, up, to, that possibility. And I'm saying don't go over the fence.

That's, basically Yeah., What, do, you, feel, generally, about what ICE has been doing? It's becoming incredibly divisive. It seems to me most Americans agree with what Trump has done on the southern border. They like the fact that the number of people coming in illegally on the border has virtually reduced to nothing from the millions under Biden. I think most people don't seem to have much of a problem with people who are in America illegally to start with who then commit crimes unconnected to their status getting deported. Most people agree with that.

The real flash point has been the removal of people who may have come in illegally originally or come in with their families and then they've been responsible citizens. They've got jobs. They paid their taxes. They brought up family and so on and they're being targeted by these guys in masks bashing down, you know, Home Depot doors and so on. What do you feel about what ICE has been doing?

Um,, okay., So, Biden, leaving, the, border wide open was insane and now there's a mess to clean up. So you know I don't think Trump and and many supporters and people like myself I didn't want to be in this position in the first place but the border was left wide open and there's many people to gather up. I totally agree that there should be a distinction between the criminal and the person that's been here law- abiding raising a family, so on and so forth. I really don't know. That subject would probably pull very badly even amongst staunch Trump reporters, you know, uh uh supporters, I should say. We we nobody that I'm aware of wants the hardworking day laborer who's been here for 15 years is raising a family taken out of the country. Now I think in in order of importance I would like the cartel guys and the gang bangers and you know the human traffickers and blah blah blah. At some point when that's all done, then

you can get down to the people that are playing by the rules, paying their taxes, raising their children, so on so forth. And then we can have a discussion about how what that would look like. that to me. But to assume that everybody Ice is going after is a hardworking mother of three who's just working as a maid and has been is all nonsense and BS and that's more narrative stuff that gets cooked up by the left and then they go out and fight and push and they essentially create chaos and then say they don't want chaos. So, it's essentially tons of chaos saying we don't want chaos and then saying, "Don't you want the chaos to stop?" And I'm like, "Yeah, I'd like the chaos to stop, but the answer isn't abolish ICE. The answer is you keep your fat ass at home."

Right., Yeah., I, mean,, that, it, seems, to, me what I also think social media is a key component to whipping up a lot of this stuff. Do you do you sense that we're in just very different times now?

Well,, so, what, I've, been, sort, of, drilling down on on my podcast is there's so many women involved now and and women are the majority of society. I mean, you know they're 51% or whatever it is, but it's it's half. And women have been sort of weaponized. They weren't like this in the past. You go out and see the footage, there's women screaming, "Shoot me! Shoot me!" at ICE officers. They're physically fighting with these people, with the ICE officers. They yesterday one spat in the face of one and then got tackled and when she was being tackled, she was yelling, "What's going on?"

And, I, realized, they, didn't, grow, up, with rough and tumble play. Mammals, male mammals grow up wrestling, finding limits and pressure points, and by the way, knowing who to mess with and who not to mess with. I mean, you learn that real fast by getting punched in the face when you're 13. So, we get that and we can kind of govern ourselves. Women don't grow up with rough and tumble play. So, they're having trouble with guidelines and limits and assessing danger and and you see it every day. First off, all they talk about is getting out and fighting and you have to, you know, I see fat middle-aged school teachers saying, "Ice, if you come to my classroom, you got to go through me first." Well, you're 48 you're morbidly obese, and you you're not armed, and you have no training, so they'll just knock you over. I I there's all these these these proclamations, these narcissistic proclamations

meets a blind spot, like literally pushing vans, you know, standing in front of 5,000 pound V8 vans and leaning on the hood and trying to push it back like you have some kind of superhero strength or something. It's tons of women and tons of women who don't seem to understand what the limits are and who they're dealing with. And I think it's because they didn't grow up testing it like we did.

Well,, I, thought, Rene's, partner,, you know, who's on video being very defiant with the ICE officers, was clearly reveling in the resistance, as she would put it. But yes, to your point earlier you know, had had they shown zero resistance when ICE actually approached them and had they been just model citizens and done what they were told all of this would have almost certainly been avoided. But there was a kind of gleeful impunity, particularly I thought from the the wife on video towards almost like defying them. You know there's nothing you can do about us. And and again, to your point, maybe it is just a it's it's a it's a modern phenomenon where they just don't understand the jeopardy that may put them in.

She's, got, a, guy, who's, got, a, gun, and she's calling him fat ass. So, that, just, there, alone., And, you, can go, "Oh, why are you defending the these officers, Adam?" I'm I'm really not. I'm just saying I would like people not to get shot. And I would say if you the other side has a gun and you're spitting on them or pushing on them or insulting them, it it ups the opportunities for you to get shot.

Final, question. But, there's final, question,, Adam., The, um, the, Golden Globes uh saw a number of celebrities Wanda Sykes, Mark Ruffalo, Ariana Grande, all wearing badges reading be good and ice out in support of Renee Good. Bill Maher responded by saying this.

Mark, Ruffalo, and, some, other, Wanda, Sykes also wearing a be good pin for Renee Good obviously and trying to use this platform for activism. Do you feel that's effective or no?

Come, on., We're, just, here, for, show business today. Uh, you know, it was a terrible thing that happened and it shouldn't have happened and if they didn't act like such thugs, it wouldn't have had to happen, but I don't need to wear a pin about it.

What, did, you, make, of, that, response? Yeah,, I, mean,, Bill's, Bill's, pragmatic. Uh, I think that's why he's drifting a little over to the slightly more conservative types of thoughts as the left gets loier and nuttier. You know he's he's a Democrat. He's on the left but the left is not Bill Clinton anymore. He was, you know, Bill Maher was, you know, agreed with Bill Clinton in the in the 90s, but he's not, you know, with the transgender stuff and all the lunacy and the after the fires and all the climate change crap and stuff. I don't think he's willing to go that nutty. And he knows that wearing a stupid button or badge or flag or whatever you're putting on your lapel is not going to cure anything or fix anything or bring anybody back. It's all virtue signaling. And they're all idiots because there's much bigger fish to fry much bigger problems, many more people being killed in other countries and and

here as well. But they're always focused on the thing that's going to bring them popularity and make them feel the best about themselves.

You, know, what, was, noticeable, to, me?, Not a single one of them said anything about Iran and the protesters being killed in huge numbers.

It's, you, could, set, your, watch, on, the irony. It's really gays for Palestine.

Adam, Croner,, great, to, have, you, back, on our senses. Thank you very much. Thanks,, Pierce.

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