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Trump and MAGA UNRAVEL in Desperate Epstein Coverup

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Trump and MAGA UNRAVEL in Desperate Epstein Coverup", an episode of Pod Save America published November 14, 2025 (21 min, about 4,319 words). It mentions 52 people, works and ideas, including Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Cash Patel.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, JP Morgan Chase
  2. – 10:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Cash Patel
  3. – 15:00: Jeffrey Epstein, PDS Debt, Autopen, Benny Johnson
  4. – 20:00: Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Benny Johnson, Cash Patel
  5. – 20:55: Benny Johnson, Progressive voices, Ryan Tyler Cohen

Notable quotes from "Trump and MAGA UNRAVEL in Desperate Epstein Coverup"

  • All right, Brian. Donald Trump is once again losing his mind over the Epstein files. and his surrogates have adopted a pretty desperate new tactic.
    about Jeffrey Epstein · at
  • Projects. this is his biggest tell when he chanted lock her up about Hillary Clinton and then all of a sudden Trump himself whined about the weaponization of government. when he complained about you know the Biden crime.
    about Hillary Clinton · at
  • And what's interesting about this is that Trump takes the truth social and claims this is all a hoax. And so, what's the hoax here? Democrats going back to 2011 making Jeffrey Epstein email Galain Maxwell where he says that.
    about Truth Social · at
  • In prison during the Trump administration. CNN reported that top administration officials at the White House had a situation room meeting with a member of Congress with Lauren…
    about White House · at
  • Yeah. because they're also bugging Nancy Mace trying to get her not to sign the discharge petition. So basically, they know they are asking these Republican members of Congress…
    about Discharge Petition · at
  • So that was JD Vance, vice president, the director of the FBI, Cash Patel, the deputy director of the FBI, Dan Bonino, some very senior people now in the Trump administration, all telling us how they were going to release the Epstein files.
    about Cash Patel · at
  • It's pretty good. And again, the emails released this week were from Epstein's estate. They were obtained from Epstein's lawyers pursu pursuant to a subpoena from the House Oversight Committee. These documents are separate.
    about Epstein estate · at
  • Finally, Brian, let's hear from America's dumbest plagiarist and propagandist, Benny Johnson.
    about Benny Johnson · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Jeffrey Epstein — Person · 25 mentions · first at
  • Donald Trump — Person · 5 mentions · first at
    All right, Brian. Donald Trump is once again losing his mind over the Epstein files. and his surrogates have adopted a pretty desperate new tactic.
  • Attorney General Pam Bondi — Person · 5 mentions · first at
    Text. There's too many of these freakout posts, but here's the key point. Trump says, I will be asking A.G. Pam Bondi in the Department of Justice together with our great…
  • Bill and Hillary Clinton — Person · 5 mentions · first at
    With our great patriots at the FBI to investigate Jeffrey Epstein's involvement and relationship with Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Reed Hoffman, JP Morgan, Chase, is that…
  • Cash Patel — Person · 3 mentions · first at
  • Benny Johnson — Person · 3 mentions · first at
  • Larry Summers — Person · 2 mentions · first at
    Investigate Jeffrey Epstein's involvement and relationship with Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Reed Hoffman, JP Morgan, Chase, is that supposed to be one person or and many other…
  • Hillary Clinton — Person · 2 mentions · first at
  • Reed Hoffman — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Investigate Jeffrey Epstein's involvement and relationship with Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Reed Hoffman, JP Morgan, Chase, is that supposed to be one person or and many other…
  • Nancy Mace — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Yeah. because they're also bugging Nancy Mace trying to get her not to sign the discharge petition. So basically, they know they are asking these Republican members of Congress to do something that.
  • J.D. Vance — Person · 1 mention · first at
    So that was JD Vance, vice president, the director of the FBI, Cash Patel, the deputy director of the FBI, Dan Bonino, some very senior people now in the Trump administration, all telling us how they.
  • Megan Kelly — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Here's one clip from Megan Kelly.
  • Mike Johnson — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Their massive compilation of all of the documents that they've been holding. And so when Mike Johnson and these other Republicans come forward and say the whole effort to…
  • Merrick Garland — Person · 1 mention · first at
    First of all, have you heard of Merrick Garland? Yep.
  • Joe Biden — Person · 1 mention · first at
    The past? Let's talk about the past that I want to talk about, like the 2020 election or like Joe Biden's autopen or Bob Mueller and how the Muller report hurt my feelings. But…
  • Ryan Tyler Cohen — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Counteract the pretty disgusting things happening on the Yeah. And please subscribe to Ryan Tyler Cohen on YouTube as well. and unsubscribe from Benny Johnson if you're watching that crap Woof.
  • Chislaine Maxwell — Person · 1 mention
  • Christy Noem — Person · 1 mention
  • Congresswoman Lauren Boebert — Person · 1 mention
  • Dan Bongino — Person · 1 mention
  • Jesse Watters — Person · 1 mention
  • Michael Wolff — Person · 1 mention
  • Robert S. Mueller — Person · 1 mention
  • Todd Blanche — Person · 1 mention
  • Virginia L. Giuffre — Person · 1 mention

Books & papers

Companies & orgs

  • JP Morgan Chase — Company · 2 mentions · first at
    Investigate Jeffrey Epstein's involvement and relationship with Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Reed Hoffman, JP Morgan, Chase, is that supposed to be one person or and many other…
  • Epstein estate — Company · 2 mentions · first at
  • Department of Justice — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Posts, but here's the key point. Trump says, I will be asking A.G. Pam Bondi in the Department of Justice together with our great patriots at the FBI to investigate Jeffrey…
  • Better Business Bureau — Company · 1 mention · first at
    And to start putting money back where it belongs, in your pocket. PDS debt is A+ rated by the Better Business Bureau, boasts thousands of five-star reviews on Google, and holds…
  • Trust Pilot — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Boasts thousands of five-star reviews on Google, and holds a five-star rating on Trustpilot. Why? Because PDS has helped hundreds of thousands of people get out of debt. Look…
  • CNN — Company · 1 mention
  • DOJ — Company · 1 mention
  • FBI — Company · 1 mention
  • Turning Point USA — Company · 1 mention

Products & tech

  • Truth Social — Product · 2 mentions · first at
  • Autopen — Product · 1 mention · first at
    The past? Let's talk about the past that I want to talk about, like the 2020 election or like Joe Biden's autopen or Bob Mueller and how the Muller report hurt my feelings. But…

Concepts & topics

  • Discharge Petition — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
  • Biden crime family — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Whined about the weaponization of government. when he complained about you know the Biden crime family and every accusation is a confession.
  • Child sexual abuse material — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Videos of alleged, forgive me, they used to call it kitty porn, now they call it child sexual abuse material on his computer that for the first time I thought, Oh no, he was an…
  • Statutory rape — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Victimizing people as young girls as young as 13 or 14. Those are children that is statutory rape. Technically, I think the point Megan is trying to making is like the lexical…
  • Pedophilia — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Like going out there and saying technically it's not pedophilia. It's a femophilia is not the is not the dunk that you think it is. And also it's a complete straw man. No one is accusing Jeffrey Epstein of raping.
  • Femophilia — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Like going out there and saying technically it's not pedophilia. It's a femophilia is not the is not the dunk that you think it is. And also it's a complete straw man. No one…
  • Gatsby parties — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Retrofitting a new Qatari jet to the tune of a billion dollars paid for by American taxpayers, hosting Gatsby parties, doing crypto dinners where he doubles his net worth, and…
  • Progressive voices — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Screen. Make sure to subscribe. Make sure to build up this ecosystem of progressive voices so that we can counteract the pretty disgusting things happening on the Yeah. And please subscribe to Ryan Tyler Cohen on YouTube as well. and.
  • 2020 United States presidential election — Concept · 1 mention
  • Cryptocurrency — Concept · 1 mention
  • MAGA — Concept · 1 mention

Places & events

  • White House — Place · 2 mentions · first at
  • Situation Room — Place · 2 mentions · first at
    Administration. CNN reported that top administration officials at the White House had a situation room meeting with a member of Congress with Lauren Boowart, I believe, to try…
  • Qatar — Place · 1 mention

Sponsors

  • PDS Debt — Sponsor · 5 mentions · first at
    So, we're going to get into all of this today. Liberal tears is brought to you by PDS debt. Let's start with him crashing out on Truth Social. We're going to put a couple of…

Full transcript with timestamps

All right, Brian. Donald Trump is once again losing his mind over the Epstein files. Uh, and his surrogates have adopted a pretty desperate new tactic. So, we're going to get into all of this today. Liberal tears is brought to you by PDS debt. Let's start with him crashing out on Truth Social. We're going to put a couple of these posts up on the screen. I'm not going to read all of it because there's just too much text. There's too many of these freakout posts, but here's the key point. Trump says, "I will be asking A.G. Pam Bondi in the Department of Justice together with our great patriots at the FBI to investigate Jeffrey Epstein's involvement and relationship with Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Reed Hoffman, JP Morgan, Chase, uh, is that supposed to be one person or and many other people in institutions to determine what was going on with them and him. So, I guess my reaction is good, like investigate

everyone and anyone, but that should include you, sir. Yeah, there there's this some weird notion by Trump that that the left is gonna that the left is going to rally around uh you know, Bill Clinton and like JP Morgan Chase

the whole the whole bank the whole bank as if like but but that really betrays his mentality like this is a team sport for him and he's like I there's nothing that I could do that would make these people leave my side and so and so if if we go ahead and investigate Bill Clinton we're going to turn this into like you know just a regular D versus R fight like everything else is a D versus R fight

mutually assured destruction And meanwhile, you've got the the the left that's saying like go ahead if anybody is implicated or involved with Jeffrey Epste. them. Like we don't we don't need to defend any of these people. Um and and you know, I would challenge anybody in the Trump administration to be able to say the same, but clearly that that's not what's happening. Yeah.

But I think the the bigger issue here is is is Trump is projecting like he always projects. I mean, this is his biggest tell when when he chanted lock her up about Hillary Clinton and then all of a sudden uh uh you know, Trump himself whined about the weaponization of government. Um when when he complained about you know the the Biden crime family and every accusation accusation is a confession.

It is so clearcut. And so when Trump comes out and says actually it wasn't us, it was them. It was the Democrats. That's as clear an indication as you could possibly get that Trump is is is guilty of doing everything that he's accusing the Democrats of doing.

Yeah. And so the context here is this week the House Oversight Committee released emails written by Jeffrey Epstein himself. Uh that said some of the following. In April of 2011, Epste emailed Gain Maxwell, his accomplice who's serving 20 years in prison. Quote, "I want you to realize that the dog hasn't barked yet. Is Trump." Uh this phrasing is weird there. Redacted victim's name. Spent hours at my house with him. Trump. He never once been mentioned, police chief, etc. So, that's one email. Uh, in January of 2019, Epstein emailed a journalist named Michael Wolf to say, quote, "Of course, he Trump knew about the girls as he asked Galain to stop." So, there's a lot of smoke here to investigate.

And what's interesting about this is that Trump takes the truth social and claims this is all a hoax. And so, what's the hoax here? Democrats going back to 2011 making Jeffrey Epstein email Galain Maxwell where he says that Trump had been over Epste's house with victims just so that we would have dirt on him that we would not use until after he won his second term and then release it in the middle of his second term. Like what like what what is what are we even talking about here?

The spin makes no sense. There's another email there's a 2015 email from Epstein to a New York Times reporter that says says quote my houseman about Donald walking through the door leaving his nose print on the glass as young women were swimming in the pool and he was so focused as he walked straight into the door. side point. Why can't this guy like write a full sentence? These people cannot email for Larry Summers, too, is like handpicking out weird staccato nonsense. Anyway, there's also a 2018 text from Epste. It says, quote, "It's wild because I am the one able to take him down about Donald Trump." This was right before he went to prison and died in prison during the Trump administration. Uh CNN reported that top administration officials uh at the White House had a situation room meeting with a member of Congress with Lauren Boowart, I believe, to try to convince her not to sign the discharge position,

which would force a vote on releasing the Epstein files. They're in going into overdrive to spin this and to try to prevent Congress from acting.

I'm curious about the situation, R, because that's that's garnered quite a bit of attention. Why do you think it was that if they if they needed to have this meeting that they don't have it over the phone, they don't have it, you know, even in the Oval Office that they go into the situation room? Talk for a second about the significance of going into the into the situation room versus any other location.

Well, I mean, really, the only reason I could think that you would want to sit there versus, I don't know, a conference room would be that you can't bring any electronic equipment into the situation room. So, no one's going to record it.

Yeah. So, why might it be important that that meeting not be record it, Tommy? Yeah. because they're also bugging Nancy Mace trying to get her not to sign the discharge petition. So basically, they know they are asking these Republican members of Congress to do something that is immoral, unethical, and politically devastating that shows, as you said at the top, that every accusation is an admission of guilt. But here we are.

But the bizarre part is if this is all a hoax, then then release the files to to negate everything that's floating around in the ether right now. one would think

you can't both call it a hoax but then also suppress all of the files the hundreds of thousands of documents that would presumably absolve you

right total exoneration sir h interesting okay also remember how so Trump is hiding from the press this week he's trying to avoid getting questions about epste but remember you know the spin from his surrogates has gone into overdrive uh we're going to play you guys a few examples but first here's just a quick reminder of how Trump's biggest defenders including some who are now in his cabinet once talked about Jeffrey Epstein.

Seriously, we need to release the Epstein list. You say that the FBI has Epstein's list. They're sitting on it. Why is the FBI protecting the largest scale pedest in human history?

Simple. Because of who's on that list? You don't think that Bill Gates is lobbying Congress night and day to prevent the disclosure of that list?

Some governments around the world may have some material that's related to the Epstein thing. Bill Clinton was kneede in this man. He was kneede. Yeah, you got to release it. Now what? What changed? They literally campaigned on this. It was part of the platform of MAGA.

So that was JD Vance, vice president, uh the director of the FBI, Cash Patel, the deputy director of the FBI, Dan Bonino, some very senior people now in the Trump administration, all telling us how they were going to release the Epstein files. And why wouldn't you release them? Miss Cash Mattel said, "Cuz you were covering up for the people who committed the crimes." H But, uh, the biggest Trump apologists have now changed their tune. Here's one clip from Megan Kelly.

As for Epstein, I've said this before, but just as a reminder, I do know somebody very, very close to this case who is in a position to know virtually everything. Not everything, but virtually everything. And this person has told me from the start years and years ago that Jeffrey Epstein in this person's view was not a pedophile. This is this person's view who was there for a lot of this. But that he was into the barely legal type. Like he liked 15year-old girls.

And I I realize this is disgusting. I'm definitely not trying to make an excuse for this. I'm just giving you facts. um that he wasn't into like eight-year-olds, but he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passer by. And that is what I believed and that was what I reliably was told for many years. And it wasn't until we heard from Pam Bondi that they had tens of thousands of videos of alleged, forgive me, they used to call it kitty porn, now they call it child sexual abuse material on his computer that for the first time I thought, "Oh no, he was an actual pedophile." I mean, only a pedophile gets off on young children abuse videos.

She's never clarified it. I don't know whether it's true. I have to be honest. I don't really trust Pam Bondi's word on the Epstein matters anymore.

Yeah. So, I don't know what's true about him, but we have yet to see anybody come forward and say, "I was a

like a I was under 10. I was under 14 when I first came within his purview." I look, it's you can say that's a distinction without a difference.

No, it's not. I think there is a difference. There's there's a difference between a 15year-old and a 5-year-old.

Okay, let's first of all, yeah, as you 15 is not barely legal. It's very very illegal. And there's reports of Epstein victimizing people as young girls as young as 13 or 14. Those are children that is statutory rape. Technically, I think the point Megan is trying to making is like the lexical definition of the word pedophile refers to like preubescent children. She later says she raised it because in the press conference Pam Bondi suggested there was child pornography in Epstein's hard drives. But like for the love of God, Megan, zoom out and listen to yourself.

Listen to what you're defending. Like going out there and saying technically it's not pedophilia. It's a femophilia is not the is not the the dunk that you think it is. And also it's a complete straw man. No one is accusing Jeffrey Epstein of raping eight-year-olds. It's it's raping miners. But like, who cares what the distinction is between 8 and 13 or 16? It's all illegal. It's all depraved. It's all disgusting. And and what are we doing here?

What are we doing here? Is a question. I saw people on Twitter calling her Megan R. Kelly.

Um uh it's pretty good. And again, the emails released this week were from Epstein's estate. They were obtained from Epstein's lawyers pursu pursuant to a subpoena from the House Oversight Committee. These documents are separate from the criminal files being held by the DOJ that Trump and Pam Bondi and Cash Pat Mattel and everybody pledged to release after the election. So the the point is DOJ is sitting on way way way way more evidence and we'd all like to see it.

Right. I I think um it's it's worth noting that it's very likely the DOJ has uh these emails included as part of their their massive um compilation of all of the documents that they've been holding. And so when when Mike Johnson and these other Republicans come forward and say the whole effort to release the Epstein files via this discharge petition is moot because of the Epstein estate documents that are already being released. It's like that that's just a tinyction a tiny trove of what they've got. And in reality there this and hundreds of thousands of other documents are contained within the DOJ's documents but the DOJ won't release it. And so thank God we've got we've got the Epstein estate that's releasing these documents. But that doesn't negate the fact that we still need to see what's in the broader files.

Yeah. And it's just a giant cover up. And also, you keep hearing Republicans say, um, if there was anything in these documents that was really bad, the Biden DOJ would have released them. Right. And my response to that is the following. First of all, have you heard of Merrick Garland? Yep.

Uh, he was slow, he was cautious, his selection was a giant mistake. And and he was more focused on preventing the optics of politicization than actually pursuing justice without fear of favor.

Exactly. Yes. Biden did not use the DOJ to go after his enemies. That's a Trump thing. So that's different. So also, uh, Gla Maxwell's case was still open during the Biden administration. She wasn't convicted until 2021 and then she appealed. Opening up those files while this case was ongoing is legal malpractice and they weren't going to do that.

It would undermine their ongoing investigation. That's why normally, far from releasing the files contained regarding the investigation, the DOJ normally doesn't even talk about this stuff. Now, not only does the DOJ talk about it, they vomit out unconfirmed information the second that it passes their Twitter feeds.

Yeah. D Cash Patel just tweets out everything and then he's wrong over and over again.

And by the way, even if he was correct, it would undermine the ongoing investigation and taint the jury pool. And there there's there's again a reason that they don't do this.

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That's pdsd.comrank. pds debt.com/rank. All right, our next propagandist is Fox News's Jesse Waters. This is a quick clip from a very long segment defending Trump on Epstein uh from his show Thursday night. Let's watch. Congress is playing games, holding fake votes to drop more files. But that's not going to happen because it's up to a judge and they won't release grand jury testimony. This is now looking more and more like a ploy to divide Republicans and smear the president. For a party that claims to care about affordability, they sure waste a lot of time on old emails.

So that sound you hear is Hillary Clinton's head exploding uh all the way from wherever she is. Chapter somewhere in the woods.

Yeah. So Jesse is a troll. He probably chose uh that phrasing on purpose to trigger people. But like this is basically Trump's spin, too. Trump is like, "Why are you guys talking about the past? Let's talk about the past that I want to talk about, like the 2020 election or like Joe Biden's autopen or Bob Mueller and how the Muller report hurt my feelings." But it's it's it's ludicrous. Also, this notion that the Democrats are are distracted with the Epstein files to be able to talk about accountability. Republicans have full control of government. They have the House, the Senate, the White House. They ran on affordability. Not only have costs gone up, not only are people's health care costs going up, not only is food assistance effectively disappearing, but all the while, what is Trump focused on? building a $350 million ballroom, encrusting his Oval Office in gold, buying a couple of Gulfream jets for Christy Gnome,

retrofitting uh a new uh Qatari jet to the tune of a billion dollars paid for by American taxpayers, hosting Gatsby parties, doing crypto dinners where he doubles his net worth, and and it's the Democrats that are not focused on affordability. There there's nothing stopping the Republicans from enacting their affordability agenda. They can't get out of their own way of surrounding dear leader Donald Trump with more gold and more opulence in the Oval Office. But what about your emails, Democrats? Uh, finally, Brian, let's hear from America's dumbest plagiarist and propagandist, Benny Johnson.

I guess we should start, ladies and gentlemen, with the biggest backfire, which is the claim that Donald Trump was spending hours with one of the Epstein victims. Oh boy. Very naughty here. Goodness gracious.

So, that's a weird um very very weird clip. Uh he's always kind of like doing like a low Ren Tucker Carlson impression, too. So what Benny was talking about here, so he goes on to say the Democrats should be sued for releasing these documents and this is why. So the House Oversight Committee on a bipartisan basis had agreed to redact the names of any victims in these files. That is obviously the right thing to do on moral and ethical grounds. Um Democrats did as much when they released these three emails on Wednesday, but Republicans then broke that rule by releasing an unredacted copy of Epstein's emails to show that the victim that was hanging out with Donald Trump for hours was a woman named Virginia Gup Fray. They think that absolves Trump because Juy has previously said she never personally witnessed Trump abuse any minors. She did not think that Trump uh participated in Epstein's crimes, but

she didn't know for sure, right? She wasn't with Donald Trump all the time. But Brian, so these emails though, they still prove the following. One, Epstein and Trump were extremely close. Trump hung out at his house all the time, including with victims. Two, Trump spent hours with an underage victim and apparently said nothing to the police or anyone else about it. Remember when Speaker Johnson tried to tell us that Trump was an FBI informant against Epstein for like 24 hours before he backpedled? Three, we know Trump is a liar when he says he kicked Epste out of Mara Lago. Epste himself said he was never actually a member of Mara Lago.

And then four, Galain Maxwell uh told Todd Blanch that Trump never went to Epstein's house. We now know that she lied in this most recent sworn testimony.

Right. And that's what I want to talk about here. So, if Galen Maxwell did lie to Todd Blanch, deputy director of the DOJ, then then why is she still at this cushy lower security prison out in Texas? It's also worth noting that like this is what the cover up looks like when you have when you have Galain Maxwell who goes in absolves uh absolves Donald Trump by lying in documents that presumably the DOJ already has in their possession. Shouldn't Todd Blanch have been able in a position to be able to say something? Why have we not heard from the DOJ about the fact that she lied? Why is she still reaping the rewards of the benefits that were conferred onto her by offering up this lie?

Yeah, it really shows what a terrible do job Todd Blanch did interviewing this criminal who's serving 20 years because there was she obviously perjured herself and he just apparently didn't have that information or didn't follow up. And again, the broader context for for viewers who might not know this, um Todd Blanch, the deputy attorney general, he went flew down to uh interview Glenn Maxwell. She said a bunch of stuff that helped Trump politically. She got then moved to a minimum security prison in a different state where she's getting special treatment like custom meals. Uh the warden personally arranged for Maxwell to meet privately with family members. Her guests are allowed to bring in electronics. She was allowed to like go to the exercise room by herself and work out alone. So she's getting this sweetheart deal as she prepares to ask Trump reportedly for a commutation.

Yeah. I mean, like, what? I I don't know how much more obvious all of this could get. Like, if if I mean, it's like it's bargain basement, you know? It's bargain basement like cover up 101. All of this is so it's so clear what everybody's doing. It's so clear what everybody's job within this whole process is. Whether it's Trump's former um criminal defense attorney, Todd Blanch, who's now working at the DOJ, whether it's Trump himself, whether it's Glain Maxwell, everybody can very clearly see the writing on the wall. Everybody can very clearly see the fact that they are engaged in a large-scale cover up of the biggest pedophile ring in American history.

Yeah. And it's really it's really it's horribly depressing. You know, it's like Cash Patel, Dan Bungee, you know, they went in, they claimed to be principal defenders and care about this issue, and now they are participating in the cover up. And even little shits like Benny Johnson at TPUSA, like he pretended to be mad about Trump's handling of the Epstein files in the cover up early on, but now he has got his sheet of music and he's singing from it and he's a participant from the outside.

Yeah. And and I think I you know I think the important thing is for Trump supporters out there for these people who voted based on this idea that um the Trump administration was going to be some champions for exposing you know the corruption that happens even in the most dark depraved corners of of the universe like the Epstein situation is. Um they they played you for fools. like they did all of this so that they could so they could get your votes knowing full well like Trump's Trump participated in fanning the flames as it relates to Epstein. He spoke about this on more than one occasion and so he knew full well what his involvement was. It's not like he didn't know that he was at Epstein's house. It's not like he didn't know that he um you know like was with uh these victims as it says in those emails and and yet he just said whatever he needed to say. Completely duped the rubes in his base because he needed

something from them. And now that he's got it, you know, he's just doing the polar opposite of what he promised to do.

I guess I'll have to get my my news someplace else than Betty Johnson going forward. Well, look, I mean that that that brings us to the to the broader point of of you can see the extent to which right-wing media is beginning to coales around these talking points, depraved though they may be. And so, you know, if if there was ever a reason to make sure to elevate the voices in the left of center ecosystem, this is it. Because, you know, the reality is that the Republicans will not stop until they can until they can turn everybody over and kind of get them on the whole Trump talking point train. So, for everybody watching right now, if you're not yet subscribed to this YouTube channel, uh we're going to put the link on the screen. Make sure to subscribe. Make sure to build up this ecosystem of progressive voices so that we can counteract uh the pretty disgusting things happening on the

Yeah. And please subscribe to Ryan Tyler Cohen on YouTube as well. and unsubscribe from Benny Johnson if you're watching that crap Woof.

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Trump and MAGA UNRAVEL in Desperate Epstein Coverup"?

Brian (Host), Tommy Vietor (Host), J.D. Vance (Guest), Kash Patel (Guest), Dan Bongino (Guest), Megyn Kelly (Guest), Jesse Watters (Guest), Benny Johnson (Guest).

What is discussed in "Trump and MAGA UNRAVEL in Desperate Epstein Coverup"?

In order: 0:00 Jeffrey Epstein, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, JP Morgan Chase; 5:00 Jeffrey Epstein, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Cash Patel; 10:00 Jeffrey Epstein, PDS Debt, Autopen, Benny Johnson; 15:00 Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Benny Johnson, Cash Patel; 20:00 Benny Johnson, Progressive voices, Ryan Tyler Cohen.

What is mentioned in this Pod Save America episode?

52 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Cash Patel, Benny Johnson. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Trump and MAGA UNRAVEL in Desperate Epstein Coverup"?

The episode runs 21 min; the transcript is about 4,319 words in 55 timestamped sections.

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