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The brutal Truth From a Super Bowl Champion - Setema Gali

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "The brutal Truth From a Super Bowl Champion - Setema Gali", an episode of The Proven Podcast published October 8, 2025 (1 h 4 min, about 13,112 words). It mentions 40 people, works and ideas, including Proven Podcast, default future, Pringles, marathon, bodybuilding.

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Proven Podcast, functioning alcoholic, Mamba mentality, Smang Ali
  2. – 20:00: default future, future focus, marathon, operating system
  3. – 30:00: gut biome, sauerkraut, Attorney General, bodybuilding
  4. – 40:00: Fortune 100, sharpen the saw
  5. – 50:00: bodybuilding, boot week, marathon, Mark Divine
  6. – 1:00:00: Attorney General, Fitbit
  7. – 1:03:35: Gameanger

Notable quotes from "The brutal Truth From a Super Bowl Champion - Setema Gali"

  • Welcome to the Proven Podcast, where it doesn't matter what you think, only what you can prove. This one's been proven by a Super Bowl champion. I'm warning you right now, most of you won't like this.
    about Proven Podcast · at
  • And so I'm not just having some This is like Mamba mentality. This is like MJ.
    about Mamba mentality · at
  • Mid-size businesses you know they're functioning but it's almost like a functioning alcoholic.
    about functioning alcoholic · at
  • Real big important things here. Number one is there's this thing that I call default future.
    about default future · at
  • Go home like first things first and then we get practical like it's hard to go run a marathon if you don't have water stations throughout and you don't have gels most people try to will change their life eating cheese and crackers.
    about marathon · at
  • Execute those consistently, the cravings disappear. Again, like I've been doing bodybuilding. I used to eat ice cream every night. Like every night, like not too bad and I could still be okay.
    about bodybuilding · at
  • Sauerkraut huge because your gut biome, there's different type of biomes in your system. So your the bacteria in your stomach, there are some that feed off sugar and there's some that feed off.
    about gut biome · at
  • And how much you value your own time by giving them limited assets to access. I am not a doctor. When my family Oh, you're going out of town. I'm going on a trip on Sunday.…
    about Attorney General · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Smang Ali — Person · 1 mention · first at
    You got it. My name is Smang Ali. I am a coach, a mentor, a speaker, an author. I work with people and I help them solve the most expensive costly problems whether it's financially costly or.
  • Tom Bradius — Person · 1 mention · first at
    This is Tom Bradius. This is like this is what it takes and it's going to be hard and let's just let's just call it what it is. You aren't good enough right now.
  • Usain Bolt — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Planet. But the difference between someone in the majors and me was the equivalent of Usain Bolt versus a turtle that had gotten rolled over and was in a coma. I was good. I…
  • Mark Divine — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Please go read it. I think the best example of this was there's a guy named Mark Divine. Mark Divine is a former SEAL commander. Mark's great seal.
  • Kobe — Person · 1 mention
  • MJ — Person · 1 mention
  • Satema Gali — Person · 1 mention
  • Steven Covey — Person · 1 mention

Books & papers

Companies & orgs

  • Proven Podcast — Company · 2 mentions · first at
  • Fortune 100 — Company · 1 mention · first at
    These are people who have been made at professional sports. These are Fortune 500 CEOs. These are elite individuals.
  • NFL — Company · 1 mention
  • SEAL — Company · 1 mention
  • www.satmagali.com — Company · 1 mention

Products & tech

  • Pringles — Product · 2 mentions · first at
    The picture. You will be sitting on a couch with no kids, no grandkids, eating a can of Pringles in a tiny or maybe your huge home. You will be miserable.
  • sauerkraut — Product · 2 mentions · first at
    Sauerkraut huge because your gut biome, there's different type of biomes in your system. So your the bacteria in your stomach, there are some that feed off sugar and there's some that feed off.
  • cream of rice — Product · 1 mention · first at
    Another one is I just tell people, look, have some some simple either cream of rice or some protein powders.
  • protein powders — Product · 1 mention · first at
    Another one is I just tell people, look, have some some simple either cream of rice or some protein powders.
  • Fitbit — Product · 1 mention · first at
    Me your pantry. Okay, show me your habits. What are you doing with your phone? Wear a Fitbit and tell me what your sleep habits look like. Because let's have a come to Jesus…
  • Game Changer with Satemangali — Product · 1 mention

Concepts & topics

  • default future — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
  • marathon — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
  • bodybuilding — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
  • gut biome — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
  • Attorney General — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
  • Mamba mentality — Concept · 1 mention · first at
  • triathlete — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    And run? Are you willing to cut sugar and [ __ ] out of your diet? Are you because I'm a triathlete. I can't have as much muscle mass as you are because I would die on the run. I already have 17ish calves. My I can't do it as it is.
  • functioning alcoholic — Concept · 1 mention · first at
  • prodigal son — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    I love the picture there. They're having this like the prodigal son of like I'm woken up like the prodical son. He's like takes all the inheritance. He goes and he spends it all. Now he's like I'm eating with the pigs right now. This is.
  • future focus — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Execute with. And I found that when pain and this is what you're doing, what I call future focus, but their future life. When you show someone that their pain now exceeds their comfort level, instantaneous change every single time.
  • operating system — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Changes are simple. So what I found that works is we give people a system an operating system and an environment where if you follow these things you decrease the chance of…
  • support groups — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    They got to avoid the bars they got to get rid of those people they got to go to the support groups and then you got to fill it back up with exercise with fruits with…
  • sharpen the saw — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Steven CVY said, he was on to something when he's like sharpen the saw. if I talk if I see two guys cut down a tree and one guy disappears for a couple hours every day, but he comes back, but he cuts down the tree faster,.
  • boot week — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Comes up to you and they say, I want to be a SEAL. What does it take to survive boot week? He knows in that moment, they're never going to become a SEAL. If you're asking, what…
  • Alcoholism — Concept · 1 mention
  • CFO — Concept · 1 mention
  • HR company — Concept · 1 mention
  • polio — Concept · 1 mention

Full transcript with timestamps

Welcome to the Proven Podcast, where it doesn't matter what you think, only what you can prove. This one's been proven by a Super Bowl champion. I'm warning you right now, most of you won't like this. This is going to rustle most of your feathers, and we're going to talk about what it takes to motivate, to succeed on the highest levels, and most of you are going to be pissed off. Anyway, the show starts now. Let's see if you can handle this one. All right, everybody. Every welcome back to the Proven Podcast. I am excited to have our guests on. Thank you for joining us, man.

Hey, man. I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for having me. Absolutely. For the for the four or five people on the planet that don't know who you are,

R tell us a little bit about yourself, what you've done, the whole nine yards. You got it. My name is Smang Ali. I am a coach, a mentor, a speaker, an author. I work with people and I help them solve the most expensive costly problems whether it's financially costly or emotionally or on their relationships. I do a lot of keynote speaking around the globe. I have clients. I coach youth football. I've got three boys and I love my life. I love my clients and I love Right. There's a phrase we say that's like if you want dragons blood on you, you got to slay dragons and we slay dragons. Like that's we confront things headon and we go like full speed at it.

That's what I do. One of the things I love about what you just said there was, you know, you slay dragons. And we were talking about this on the first call we were connected, which was a no BS version of what it takes to actually slay a dragon versus the the cute let's rub some crystals on a tree and sing kumbaya. That's just not reality. If you're going to go do some things, you're going to do some things. For those of you who are not uh watching this, who are listening to this, there there were two people uh on his couch.

He is large enough he looked like he ate the other one. This is a large man. And ironically, I think your boy, you mentioned, is even bigger than you are. So,

I I I look, I got I got a son who's like he's just passed me in height. So, he's probably 6'5.

Mhm. 350. And that's my, you know, my older my other son is about 6'2, 240. And then, and my youngest son is he's like 57, 5'8, about a buck 35. So, he's coming. He's 13. But

yeah, our food bill is astronomical. And I love it. I can't imagine. I love it. So, one of the things that I think you and I both love on a high level is just being really honest and in people's face. So, let's get into what are some of the things that are complete and utter BS that people believe about like, hey, hey, I want to be successful. I want to make it to the NFL. I want to succeed. I want to have this financial this. What are some of the just complete BS things that in their way of obtaining those goals?

Yeah. I I think one of them for sure is when people say like they they're overly optimistic. Like I believe in being positive and I believe in being optimistic. But when people are just like just keep believing and just like you just believe and and I'm like okay look even the Bible's like faith without works is dead. So you could believe all day long. And I know people that even hide behind God. And when I say that I I got a picture of Jesus right behind me. There there's people who literally they they they live in this fairy tale of just like just do these few things and it's all going to work out. And I'm like no, it's not all going to work out. Like you if you want apples, you got to go get apple seeds. You got to harrow the ground. You got to plant the seeds. You got to make sure the soil is good. Then you got to protect the seed. Then you got to nourish it. And even then, as good as again, I believe in the law of

the harvest, what you sow is what you reap. And even then, there's still so much that it's going to take. So, one of this like, hey, just just be positive. And again, I'm a positive guy.

This and then, you know, another one is whenever people say, well, it it happens for a reason. I'm like, it happened because you made some dumb choices.

Like, you made some really dumb choices. And so I'm not just having some This is like Mamba mentality. This is like MJ. This is Tom Bradius. This is like this is what it takes and it's going to be hard and let's just let's just call it what it is. You aren't good enough right now or you're not. I talk about this all the time. People are like, "Oh, I want to lose weight. I want to make a million dollars. I want to do this." I'm like, "That's adorable. What are you willing to do? Are you willing to get up every morning at four o'clock in the morning and run? Are you willing to cut sugar and [ __ ] out of your diet? Are you because I'm a triathlete. I I can't have as much muscle mass as you are because I would die on the run. I already have 17ish calves. My I can't do it as it is.

So, but people like, "Oh, I want to be a triathlete." I'm like, it's it's not complicated. Get up and put the thing. It's like everybody wants they want to everybody wants the bigger home. They want the car. They want to be jacked and shredded. Everybody wants to but you do not get what you want. You get in our language, you get what you are 100% committed to. In our in our language, commitment means you do what is required.

You do what you say you're going to do and you act decisively regardless of thoughts, feelings, emotions, and moods. And I'm like, you don't get what you commit to every once in a while. It's every single day. And committing to do something means you got to you got to cut a lot of stuff out. Like you talked about, you know, trying like you can't eat donuts all day and pizzas all day and fries all day. There's a sacrifice that is required and most people don't want to sacrifice. They don't they don't want they don't want to give up the sugar. They don't want to give up the movies. They don't want to give up the ease and the comfort. So, this is why I love the conversation we're having, which is like, let let's just let's just be real.

You don't want it bad enough to cut things out. You don't want it bad enough to become a different human. And eating a salad and chicken for one meal is not going to get it done.

Right. And and I love you talk about being real. You people like, "Oh, I want to I want to do this and I want to do this." I'm like, "You can't even conquer the cookie jar. What are you talking about?" I was like, "You haven't even gotten past that." So, and there's nothing wrong with that. This is where you are right now. Muscle tough. If if you're like, "Hey, I'm not willing to cut out the sugar. I'm not willing to watch the videos, to read the books." You know, one of the people I'm working with right now, she's like, "I've never read four books in a week in my life."

And I was like, "And you're getting different results now, aren't you?" She's like, "Yep." I'm like, "Okay, cool." Because it's just a matter of you have access to the data. Now, when when people come to you and your clients, you know, these are high performers and these people wanted to change it. What are the normal struggles that struggles that they're facing? And then how do you have them ironically with the picture behind you which is a live picture of Jesus um what is their come to Jesus moment that they have what are the things like what are the problems and how do you get them to have that come to Jesus moment

well one of the biggest things is even if you're performing at a very high level and you're making money which they are they're these guys are they're CEOs they're CFOs they're business owners entrepreneurs they run mid small to mid-size businesses you know they're functioning but it's almost like a functioning alcoholic.

And again, I don't drink alcohol. It's fine if you do, but I've had functioning alcoholics come to my program

and it's like they can literally fool most of the world. So, they're lying. They're pretending. And and everyone kind of knows like, hey, this is our leader. They've got money. And so, I always take it into physical, spiritual, relational, financial, right? Just four different domains of life. So my clients, they might be doing great with their business at the cost and at the expense of disconnected from spouse and children, disconnected from purpose and meaning and fulfillment, and pro possibly they're grossly overweight and obese

like that there's some type of like really misbalance here. And so what I do is I look him straight in the face, right? And there's like nice, warm, loving Satma, the guy you'd see at like the football game. Hey, right. And then there's I don't care what you think about me. You are asking me to help you. And the only way to help you is to punch you in the throat.

100%. And I mean like when I say like I have CEOs that are like or clients that are like no one ever talks to me like this and like makes me feel this way. I'm like cuz I don't care. Right? So we confront things headon like we have some real words and it's like you shake them so hard all of the facads and all of the masks they begin to fall off. And that's like what I do with clients is just let's get real. Let's tell the truth. I'm going to ask you some real questions and don't lie to me.

So, we talk about this hammer versus hug and sometimes I get to be hammer and sometimes I get to be the hug. Most people need that hammer at first to move them out of where they are. You mentioned you asking real questions. What are some of the questions that you've asked people that have created that, for lack of better term, that hammer, that movement, that pivot that they will drop the mask off?

Yeah. So, I'll just create this agreement with them up front and I like to frame every conversation. So, when I get on with someone, and I've done this, I do this all the time. I say, "Listen, we're about to have a a very powerful conversation. Let's not waste time and play pretend, and let's let's not stay on the surface. You do that everywhere else in your life. So, can you agree to be radically honest, brutally transparent, and completely real with me, yes or no? M.

And most people Go ahead. I was going to say, well, most people will say yes, but it's not a real yes. Oh, yeah. Sure. Sure. Absolutely. How do you get past that? The [ __ ] Yes.

Well, then it's funny cuz I'm like they if I can tell. You can always tell. You can tell you you can tell when someone's

not. Yes. Doesn't really mean yes. They're just saying yes. And I'll say, "Look, I'm just going to say it again."

Yeah. And I just pause and I just look at them like we don't got time because the the person who referred you to me said you were going through some tough times like something difficult. So I'm going to ask you some real questions. All I'm asking you is do not lie to me. Tell the truth and I will help you. Do you understand? And they're like yes. And sometimes I will come right out the gate and and depending on that they filled something out, I've got some information. So sometimes I'll just ask them and point blank. What's going on in your marriage?

Real talk. And then then again, I know the first question I ask most people they stay a little bit service. And then I start to pierce and I start to dig and I start to dig. I'll point blank ask people like what like are you cheating?

What's in your bank account right now? Are you lying? What was the last lie you told? And if I can get them to be so real and so honest right up front, man, like we just move so fast because for the first time in their life, they're having this come to Jesus moment, right? I love the picture there. They're having this like the prodigal son of like I I'm woken up like the prodical son. He's like takes all the inheritance. He goes and he spends it all. Now he's like I'm eating with the pigs right now. This is horrible.

Time to go home. So if you can be so real and pierce like piercing, people want to actually tell the truth. They just don't know how and there's usually not any environment when they can do that.

I also think people don't have people that hold them accountable on a high enough level and they know that if this person does hold me accountable, there will be some sort of cost benefit for it. So you know I with my clients I'm like, "How long have you been cheating?" They're like, "Excuse me?" I'm like, "We're going to get past it if you're cheating. We're but we're way beyond that. How long have you been cheating? Is that your goal? Like if that's what you want, I love that. It's not my marriage. I'm not sleeping with you. I don't care. And I think having that that disconnect of I I don't care. I'm here to serve whatever your truth is is important. Now, a lot of this people and I'm curious what your thoughts are.

There's so many people who want to change and have a certain level of willing but don't actually make the change. What has been the factor that you've seen when people come to you the no BS of what people actually start taking the action and implementing and and creating the changes of the lives that they want? What are the things that normally is the trigger for that for that you've seen?

Yeah, there's I would say there's two real big important things here. Number one is there's this thing that I call default future.

It's default like basically if you continue to do what you're doing, where will you end up? And most people they they painted a false future. So for example, if they're eating garbage and they're not spending time with their children and they're working 60 to 70 to 80 hours a week at the expense of all these. I'm like, where will you be? And in their mind, they're like, you know, I I won't be as close to them as I was like, excuse me.

Yeah. You are so delusional. You're delusional. Let me let me paint the picture. You will be sitting on a couch with no kids, no grandkids, eating a can of Pringles in a tiny or maybe your huge home. You will be miserable. That is your kids will refuse to come see you unless they want your money. And even then, some of them will. And when I can paint this like face the reality of the default future, it's like and then I mean I just hit him hit him straight with it like or if you continue to do what you're doing, you will be financially broke. You will be destitute. You will be discouraged. You will be depressed. And you might even consider like taking your life. You might consider that and you might even do it like this is the path you're on.

Are you okay with that? M and when people are like like it's like this wake up moment like oh I don't want that. It's regret that that's one of them. The other thing really is it's just getting them to have a wake up moment. I'm like you got to give something up and they're like what do you need? Like you can't keep doing this over here and doing this over here and hoping to get like something has to be given up. So I can give them example and example like again the physical ones like you you're fat like I'm tell like you're obese you think you look good let me show you a p go take your shirt off and take a picture and then I can show them an older version of them and then the current version and they're like I'm like you look horrible and again that's not just in the in the physical domain.

So when people get the truth, Jesus really had it straight when he said the truth will set you free. And the truth hurts. The truth is painful. And people actually really don't want to know the truth cuz it sucks.

They want to listen to the motivational tapes and they want to listen to the books and they want to write little cute quotes, but they don't want to do the [ __ ] work. They don't want to dig in.

Gosh, the quotes are killing me, man. Right. Yeah. They drives me out of my mind because people will sit there and like one of my one of my clients goes, "Whatever I'm not uh whatever I'm ch whatever I'm not choosing, I'm changing or or something along the lines." I wrote it down because it pissed me off. She says, "Whatever you are not changing, you are choosing." I was like, "That's a great quote. That's really cute. That's a really good one. What do you not what did you change now?" Huh? I'm like, "Wait, you just said whatever you're not changing, you're choosing."

So, what changes have you made? They're like, "Uh-uh. I wrote the quote on my wall. I posted it on Instagram." I'm like, "You're in my way now." Because that's I don't care what you say. I only care what you do. I only care what you execute with. And I found that when pain and this is what you're doing, what I call future focus, but their future life. When you show someone that their pain now exceeds their comfort level, instantaneous change every single time. But if you're in a situation where you're still comfortable with the level of pain that you're at cuz it slowly has crept up, you're not going to make that change. What what are some of the things and I'm I'm curious what you've run across the things that have made the most change in people's lives? Like you've seen these radical results to be able to sustain it because change in a couple minutes is adorable. It's cute.

It's nice and you think you won some award and then you go back to your old patterns. How do people sustain? How do you get people to do that?

So, one of the things that's helped people the most is when you put them through physical pain. So, you know, look, these business owners, they sit in their their nice booted and suited clothes and they they they're important and they've got authority and power and then we would run them through immersion and then come through and we I'm picking them up at five is very militant. Now, I've never been military, but I' i've seen military and I have so much respect and so but I've been in high level sports, high school collegiate professional.

Well, there is something about physical pain and having people connect like where I just I just carried an 80 lb bag for 4 and a half hours. I just ran miles upon miles even when I'm like about and I think I'm going to die. when people go through pain and I can connect what they're going through physically to now what they want to experience financially or relationally and I can make that tie and then I can remind them of some of the tools and the models like this is what we did so you're going to go home like first things first and then we get practical like it's hard to go run a marathon if you don't have water stations throughout and you don't have gels most people try to will change their life eating cheese and crackers.

Like, dude, you got to fuel your body. You got to fuel. You got to sleep. You got to have shoes. You got to like this is preparation. So, a lot of times with our people, what gets them to stick is I'm like, "Let's put you in the environment. Go home. Someone wants to lose weight. Go home. FaceTime me. Show me your pantry." They're I'm like, "There's about $1,500 of stuff that needs to go." Oh, but my but I was like, look, you told me you wanted to change. Oh. Oh, but I got this relationship like you need to cut block on every you need to get rid of that. You need to probably get rid of the TVs and like people are not wanting to get drastic.

No, then the comforts of life just pull them back in. And where I've seen the most change with people is, you know, again, Jesus said something about if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off.

You people need to cut people out of their life. People need to sleep get not sleep with their phone next to them because they're glued to their phone all night. Then they wonder why they're so tired. Then they caffeinate and and then numb and do I'm like, "Guys, these these changes are simple." So what I found that works is we give people a system an operating system and an environment where if you follow these things you decrease the chance of relapsing now it's it's like the alcoholic you got to dump all the alcohol out you got like if that's what again I got a number of clients they got to dump the alcohol they got to avoid the bars they got to get rid of those people they got to go to the support groups and then you got to fill it back up with exercise with fruits with vegetables, with just different things. People don't understand like we're talking about radical change and they don't want to do

that. So they that's why they keep lapsing and they stay in debt and they stay in mediocrity. I'm like now the people who who like again keep I don't know why I keep feeling the same but there's even people in scriptures like get up and move. Leave get out of where like leave where you're at. And people don't want to do that cuz they're too comfortable. which tells me you really don't want what you say. It sounds cute. It gives you a don't mean dumb, but you don't want it. Oh, on that cute quote you keep posting and all the the quote you post on your social media like get out of here. Show your results. Show me the fruit, right? Show the results.

Yeah. I love the idea that pain breeds confidence. There's so many times when you're doing things that like I didn't know I could do this. I've got to push through it. And the other thing is that, you know, you're talking about a purge and it's one of my favorite things to do on a plane ride is I will sit there because I can't there's no internet access on the plane most of the time and I'll be like block block delete block block. I'm like all these people you don't get to be in my life anymore. And if you're not ready to to I hate this expression because it's a wrong expression, but if you're not ready to burn your ships, you're not going to get it. That's just the reality. And there are people and I love that you go through people's pantries and say get a trash bag. You want a different life.

And I, you know, one of the things I do is I say, you know, here you are. What are the clothes that this ideal version of you, because we created this horrible version of you, here it is. You're going to be sitting on your own eating Pringles. What does that person wear? Awesome. What does this person wear? Cool. Go in your closet and go find me that outfit. And they'll come in like, I don't have that. Cool. Go get a garbage bag. What do you mean? I'm like, I'm throwing out everything you own. And I And I don't think people understand that's what real change takes. and and for you and this is why we got all along so well from the very beginning I was like okay he's not full of [ __ ] he's actually done it he's dug in so what are the things that have created like the sustainable stuff right like okay we go in we purge it and let me give example in my home I have a little uh clock that controls lamps that turns lamps on and

off you know those it's connected to my internet devices so at 10:00 at night all the internet in my house shuts down there is there isn't any hey I want to get on my iPad I want to get on my phone there's no internet in the house cuz at 10:00 I'm getting off my devices. It doesn't turn back on to the morning. It was a $6 solution. It forces me to get out of my own way. What are some of the things that you've implemented with your clients that have helped them? Because again, willpower is a finite resource. We all know that we don't always feel like working out and sometimes we just we fall off track and then we got to catch back up. No matter who you are, unless you're Kobe. um how are the things what are the things that you've implemented with clients that have helped them stay on track to get to those goals?

So number one is a big one with all of our clients and see I've never heard that one before. I'm like that one's brilliant d I'm going to go implement that now. So like my kids, right? But I go for us, it's like all phones, no phones go in rooms, right? All phones get shut off at like 8 9:00. You have to remove cuz that right there, that domino,

if someone's up on their phone all night, they they don't sleep well, then they binge, then they then they don't work the the next day. So that's one right where I'm like just that simple thing of rem even if you work take your cell phone put it in another room leave it in your car and they're like but I got but I got I was like but you got what if you're no one has easy access to you that means you never get into deep work and if you never get into deep work in the modes of being able to really execute be productive you're working about probably 90 minutes a day while you're at it like you're you're you're checking you're wasting time. Another one is the non-negotiable of like you can't even start work until your workout's done. And they're like what? I'm like go get the workout in and tell me how you feel. And so we we tell guys to find workout partners. And it's I mean for me it's so ingrained probably

like it is for you. Like we're going to work out no matter what. But people who are not used to that, I'm like, you you need a group and you you need to return the report to us and you don't get to work. You don't get to do anything in your job where you make money until you do this. And they're like, "Holy crap." I'm like, "Yeah." So, when you can implement these simple things, these simple protocols, and then it becomes habit, and then all of a sudden these guys are like, "Dude, I have to work out." Like, I know that's what it is. That's a good life. It's like where you eat and you fuel your body and there's no junk food in the pantry. And when you're tempted, again, another one is I just tell people, look, have some have some some simple either cream of rice or some protein powders.

When you are tempted to eat whatever your junk food is, that's your go-to. I promise you, you again, this is science. You eat the right foods for the day. After a while, you just don't crave the garbage. But it breaking that gravity, right? That rocket ship expends all the fuel to break gravity. The clients need that. So then those are some simple things from the foam to the food to the exercise. We just need a few simple triggers in place. And if they can execute those consistently, the cravings disappear. Again, like I I've been doing bodybuilding. I used to eat ice cream every night. Like every night, like not not too bad and I could still be okay.

I'm like, no. Like what happened within those first probably two weeks? I craved it and

Oh my god. Yeah. Like I noticed as I ate super clean. I It's so true. All the food that people eat, it is laced with the additives that make you more hungry. But when you eat chicken and rice and leaning ground turkey and rice and steak and potato, you really just don't give a dang about those foods because that they're so blind. Now your body transforms and then when you go back to eat sugar like you feel so sick. The same thing happens with people in the workout and or executing work and high value targets in their business. It's amazing how small and simple things like you just talked about right there with the internet.

Dude, it just like and once you've done it, you're like, I don't want to go back. I don't want to go back to the way that I used to live.

No, 100%. And I think you know people don't understand that you don't need to have willpower throughout the entire day.

You only need willpower in little finite sections because there I have the same problem you do. I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. But sugar for a long time for me. Oh my god. Because I don't know if people know this and this is important. So this is a public service announcement. Um ice cream lies. It says serving size four. Serving size one. I I don't care what size it is. I will pound the whole thing. It was bad. So I don't spend all day going I want ice cream. I want ice cream. ice cream. I just make sure it's not in my house.

But if I toss it when I'm walking outside and there's a store or I just need willpower for about 5 10 seconds, I can get willpower for 5 to 10 seconds. I can do it. I'm like, I got to buy it. I got to buy it. The other thing that I found because people want tactical here. Sauerkraut huge because your gut biome, there's different type of biomes in your system. So your your the bacteria in your stomach, there are some that feed off sugar and there's some that feed off other healthier things. When I went through a purge, I had to bring fermented food. So sauerkraut, which I do not like the taste of sauerkraut, but I don't care. I'm fueling. I'm not eating for me. I'm eating for my for my system. By bringing sauerkraut in the morning, all of a sudden, every single one of the um the sugar cravings I had gone because I replaced the bacteria that was in my gut. So my gut biome actually changed. The other thing is

understanding, and I'm curious what you think of this. Everyone thinks that time is your most valuable asset. It is not. It is never going to be your most. You're completely wrong. I spent eight years in a hospice watching people die. There are people who had polio, who were paralyzed from the neck down, who limped for 90 years. They had lots of [ __ ] time. They didn't have any health. Health is the only thing that matters. And right now, Florida just got rid of vaccines. We're not going to get political on that. Polio is no joke. So, if you get injected with that stuff, it gets ugly. So, your health changes the ball games. And then I think what I I love what you said about the phone. If people have access to your your phone, you're telling someone how much value and how much you value your own time by giving them limited assets to access. I am not a doctor. When my family like, "Oh, you're going out of town. Like, I'm

going on a trip on Sunday. I'll be out I'll be out of the country." Like, "Yeah, but what happened if there emergency?" And I was like, "Well, I didn't go to medical school, so you probably don't want to call me. You might want to call someone else." So, we get the motivation, we get the patterns, we get the, you know, we're going to do things differently. Once someone gets to that tactical and they're like, "Okay, I've got it. I'm working out every day. Thank you so much. Now, what do you do to step in and level up their businesses and what do you do to let up level up their finances?" How do you handle that?

You got it. So, I love just doing what we call current reality. Well, so people start to get their life right. When you start to right exercise body, your weight's dropping, your habit, you're feeling better, like you're starting to spend more time, you're not addicted to work, you're not working 80 hours a week, and you're not stressed, and you're not taking it out on your family. And you know, cuz a lot of guys think, "I'm doing this for my family." Your family doesn't even want to be around you cuz you're a horrible person to be around right now. Like, you take it out on them because you know deep down in your mind, they're always going to be there. But you don't do that at work cuz HR is going to hit you with something.

Hey, you can get fine here. So once people get to a place that's like, okay, I can breathe again. Then I just say, okay, let's look at your current reality now. Let's look at where you're at now. And let's just look at the truth. What's what's the bank account? What's the money incoming in? What's your retirement look like? What is your income and cash flow? Okay, what is your current reality of your body? Okay, you've lost 30 pounds. Are you working out? And we start to look at the current reality and the trajectory now. And some people's trajectory looks way better.

And then we just all we talked about really simple is like like there's small and simple things you got to do on a daily basis to keep you bulletproof. That's it. Like like maintain the workout, maintain the the healthy eating. Make sure you're marketing your sales. And again from producer to owner, right? Are you building a legitimate business where you don't have to work 24/7. And again, this stuff takes time. Most people just stay working, working, grinding, grinding, grinding. They make a lot of money, but they're not really doing anything. And and I found myself in that situation multiple times where I'm like, "Okay, I got to step back. Let me look at current reality. Let me create this projection of where I want to be. And then we just go back and set again what we call necessary required actions and let's execute." And it's the same, it's crazy. It's the same process again and again and again, right? you

just face new levels, new devils. Okay, now that you're on a new level, now you got some new problems and now we got to go solve those problems and then it's going to elevate you again and then you're going to face new problems and then we got to solve those problems until you just constantly and continuously optimize your life. The the the and I love that you said that word. I don't believe people, but I do believe they're patterns. And so someone's got patterns of how they do things. We can look at those patterns. We can look at their current reality. We can project something and now we can solve. And it takes so much. It takes real real conversation, real truth. Like confronting things head-on, saying the things that people don't want to hear.

Doing the things that they absolutely have been avoiding. And it show them the cost. That's another game changer. Like you show someone what it's really costing them to waste time over here or to do this over here. The real cost people are like, "Wait, I'm losing millions of dollars or hundreds of thousands of dollars." But more than financial, you're losing your children, you're losing your marriage. Like it it's brutally painful. So that's what we do. It's and it's then simple. It it really it's not easy. But it is simple to look at it and then you got to execute.

There's a simple thing that you keep glossing over. So the listeners have heard it probably at this point. But you keep using the term we. And the idea is that the only way you're going to do this is if you have someone to hold you accountable. And I have people all the time like, "Oh, I don't I don't really need this or I don't really need that." I'm like, "Cool. Have you done it?" And they're like, "No." I go, "Then you're lying to yourself. You need someone to hold you accountable." Because if you could do it on your own, like there are people like Kobe who do it on their own.

I I love it. They're one out of 80 billion people. It's a the rest of us. We need someone to hold us accountable and to get us in the face and and to do that. So, I love that you keep talking about, okay, we've reached this level. Now, we need to get to the next level because there's a new devil at every level. And it's just the nature of the beast when you talk about necessary actions because we all have these and every level has different ones. And there's there's God, I wish people would sit down and have these honest conversations so they would realize how much connection, love, and finances they're losing. But when they sit there and say, "Hey, here are the real things that you need to do. These are the necessary actions. What are the most common, let's say five most common necessary actions that people have to do at different levels?" Because if you're on the basic level, and I'm I'm trying

to lead you here because the basic level is easy. Just get racist. It's really simple. Don't eat anything white. If it's sugar, if it's carbs, you just don't drink it. Just don't just don't eat it. If it's white, don't eat. Just walk away from it. Sorry. It's bad. Simple. We all know what to eat. We all know that we need to exercise. So for those of you who are playing at that level who are listening, just walk for 45 minutes every day. Make it a non-negotiable. If it's raining, you're going to get wet. If it's snowing, you're going to be cold. Just get over yourself. Just do it. Commit. And it's not about the walk anymore. It's about the can I keep a promise to myself. So at the very basic level, stop lying to yourself and get there.

This isn't that conversation because that you can Google anywhere. Have a nice day.

That's what you do. Easy stuff. That's easy, right? That's chat GBT. You interact with individuals at a significantly higher level. These are high performers. These are people who have been made at professional sports. These are Fortune 500 CEOs. These are elite individuals. What are some of the proven necessary things that you go, hey, this is what you need to do.

Yeah, I love that. So, I'm going to add one more word before I answer this. So, necessary, we call them NASA, necessary required actions. And so to answer this question right at a certain level, you have like one of the things is there's constantly assessing you're there's an assessment. When am I today? And if people don't do that, like it's easy to get stuck into what I call the comfort zone. Comfort turns to complacent zone. Complacent turns this nose dive crash and pretty soon you have a crisis. So we want to avoid the crisis and avert that by saying okay number one let's do a consistent checkin that check in I call this like our our general's tent the battle is always won in the general's tent which means hey at least once a week you got to sit down and look back at the previous week hey what did we do what we said we did like and I mean at a high level because if you're not executing at a level that's going to put

you on an upward trajectory we're back to go walk for 45 minutes and tell me how you feel. So the returning report out of like this this planning this general stent so to speak once a week is important. Number two is a constant looking into the future like and again I think I heard this from might have been Gary Vee I don't even probably where he's like our head needs to come up out of the dirt into the clouds. We've got to survey. We got to you got to look because at the level of an 8 figure or multiple eight figure close to nine figure business there's so many moving pieces that you're counting on dozens and dozens of your leaders. So fast again speed of the team speed of leader. So this assessing right and adjusting and pivoting like real time and where are we? Here's where we were here's where we want here's where we are. We got to pivot. uh another thing that I think is critical for these that I don't think

another thing that is like missionritical is the confronting of crucial conversations with people high-end leaders like top- end leaders they they don't leave these critical crucial conversations for anybody. You got to have them. You have to have them. And it's not a text message. It's not an email. It's a you confront and the reason why it's so important when a leader confronts his main people, he is demonstrating to them. He or she is demonstrating to them this is how we handle stuff head on confront. And what I've learned is people who avoid confrontation and they want to go into complexity, they're avoiding the very thing that would put them to the next level. So they stay stuck. Critical, crucial, fierce conversations. When something's not working, it's immediate because again, it like you know the phrase, right? It you don't you can't turn the Titanic like you can a VW bug. It takes

a lot of movement to turn an organization. So those micro conversations are critical. Another thing that's important that I'd say for these guys is it sounds like almost counterproductive, but I'm like you got to sharpen your saw, man. Steven CVY said, he was on to something when he's like sharpen the saw. You know, if I talk if I see two guys cut down a tree and one guy disappears for a couple hours every day, but he comes back, but he cuts down the tree faster, it's because his his saw is sharp. And again, I'm not talking about self-care and pedicures and manicures. I'm talking about like real deep meditation,

real preparation. Give me a guy who's going to stop and prepare his day and then execute. He's going to go farther than the person who just let's go to work. Because at the level the grind is not the the grind actually becomes counterproductive. There's got to be strategic planning and execution. It's like again this is like you're a solo guy. Just go work harder. You're going to make money. But when you're over people and livelihood and organizations and and like branches and districts and like you got to have a strategy that is in alignment with where you're trying to go. And a lot of times even for myself I hire mentors, I hire coaches, I have a team where we hold each other to these candid conversations. So those are a handful of things to me. It's like if you're doing that and then again you're taking a step back looking at the big picture like head in the clouds where we at what's really going what's really

going on what's really not happening that we got to have happen once we we plan we put our face in the dirt and we go we execute and we faces in the dirt like we're grinding we're working and every once in a while head comes up where are we is this really what we want you've heard the phrase that says hey don't don't build don't climb the ladder, get to the top and be like, "Oh, the ladder's against the wrong wall." I'm like, "That's a real thing where people build and work so hard." And they get down the road and they're like, "This is not what I wanted." That's why having clarity and head up in the clouds is so crucial. You got to make sure, is the path that you're on really the path that's going to lead you to what you really want? And when you get to what you really want and you make that money or you get that thing, are you sure what's behind it is what you really want? And if it is, let's go get it. If

it's not, we need to assess that before we spend years and months building a machine to solve a problem that really is not the problem. So there's a lot of thinking and conversation that goes into these systems. And if people are just like willing to submit to that process, it's a whole different level of capacity versus, hey, let's go walk for 45 minutes, stop eating sugar, stop eating and you're good. No, this is like we're trying to turn you into a high like level welloiled machine with muscles and endurance and you can handle the 120 plus bike ride in the marathon. Like it's a way different game. Same in marathon, same in bodybuilding, same in business, same with family.

No, I I agree. And I think there's so many people that don't get it that if you sat on a plane and the guy next to you said, "Oh my god, I'm so excited. I wonder where we're going." You would freak out. You were like, "Oh my god." You're like, "Okay, this is the problem." Well, people do that in their businesses. They're I'm just going to do it. And and I think I know you've seen this. You can grind your way to seven figures. It is not that hard to make a million dollars. You can just put your head down and grind. It's going to cost you your health. It's going to cost you your family. It's going to cost you your relationships. But yeah, you'll get to your seven figures also. Have fun in that. I love what you said about kind of disconnecting. In the military, it's called detach. You need to detach from the environment and put your head on a swivel for a second. But don't sit there and go, "Okay, I've climbed up the wrong

ladder. I'm on the wrong wall." So sitting down and really knowing where you're going, where that that arrow is going to go beforehand is important. And I love that you mentioned that, you know, you have mentors as well. And I I think it's I would not be as far as I was or I am if it wasn't for mentors. And my original mentors when I was broke were books. I would read the Stephen Cummies and I'd like hey this is this is what I can afford right now. And then in time you hire someone because it's all about accountability. Having someone that gets in your face and has conversations that are not HR approved.

Sorry HR I never get along with you. I am not HR approved. So that are going to get in your face and hold you account and and just sit there and bark at you and say you are failing and you're choosing that and that's okay if that's your truth. If that's where you want to go a it's not going to affect my wishing truly nothing but the best but that's where you're going. You know, you you said something now and this is so true. In the beginning, the mentors were absolutely the books and the podcast and like there those things were so important, the YouTube videos, but there comes a point in time where you've got to go to a whole another level. And this is why most people most and I'll boldly say this, why most people will never get there because they don't want to make the investment. And so it's like well you're I got to go pay this guy 50 grand or 100 grand or 10 what whatever level you start at. I'm like well that it's

like having a great tax person. They're going to save you six seven figures and you're going to pay them for it. So I'd rather pay 50 grand to save myself half a million dollars worth of loss or a million dollars worth of gain. I'll I'll invest that 50 or 150 grand all day long. And most people, they have this goal, it's silliness. They think they can just do it by watching a YouTube video and they'll be just fine. I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, and they're like, but I don't have the money to invest in a coach. I was like, then stay where you are. Like, if and I would I love this example. If if your child was going to die and you had to commit the million bucks, could you find the million? It's crazy. Some people are like, "What? If you're really hesitating,

yes, then you're on my You really couldn't go thousand%. Oh my gosh. Like go become an employee. Go do that. Go work for someone else. Get out of When people say, "Oh, I don't have the money to invest in someone who's going to hold me accountable." I'm like, "Awesome. Now you're not in my way." I love that. Great. Because I don't have to deal with you down the road. I got to deal with the other guy who's willing to burn down villages to make what happened. the the idea of out into out fasting. I either find a way or make a way. That for me is one of those where like I will make this happen.

And most people it it's sad. I talk to people like weekly. They're like, "Oh yeah, I you know I'm going to I'm reading this book and I'm doing I'm like that's great. It sounds like you're in the beginning stages. Stay in your job. Enjoy your side hustle."

Yes. But if you're trying to go hit seven figures out the park and scale that to multiple seven and eight, you're trying to like really do something like I mean not like a little straw house. You're trying to go build a community figuratively speaking. You're trying to go make your body chiseled like it's going to you're not doing it by listening to a YouTube video and reading the guy's cliff notes. There's a cost and a price associated. And most people, they think they can go build a $10 million business and invest a few hundred here and there. There's so delusional. This is that delusional we talked about.

Yeah. I mean, if if you're sitting there like, I want to be the most successful person in my entire life that has ever existed. I'm going to go watch YouTube. I'm like, you're adorable. Go away. That's adorable. I'm like, I'll give you a teddy bear. You can hug it. Because that's just not the reality. It's, you know, the difference between someone who performs on the NFL level versus someone who performs, I make it even easier. I have a 92 mph fast ball at 17 years old. I was better than probably 95% of the planet. But the difference between someone in the majors and me was the equivalent of Usain Bolt versus a turtle that had gotten rolled over and was in a coma. I was good. I wasn't even remotely close to be what it takes. And most of us think that, hey, if I just worked out and did a couple more push-ups, I'm going to have this great body. If I just listen to this video or I go to this

event or I go to this seminar, I'm going to radically make 10, you know, I'm going to make 10 million. I'm going to make that nine figures, eight figures, whatever it is. And I'm trying to and that's what I'm trying to do with this conversation because you and I are just being honest. People pay us a lot of money to do what we do because we get the results we get. But most of the people, at least for me, that try to hire me, I'm like, "No, excuse me." And it's the question you just asked, which is if your child needed a million dollars, if you had to get a million dollars in the next 24 hours or in the next year in order to save your child's life, if that person's answer isn't, I will burn down villages. I will light [ __ ] on fire to make it happen. If you're not that person, you're not my client. I give them away my book for free for years. I'm curious when you run into that as well. When you ask people

that question, did you have that same kind of reaction to like, oh, go away. You're in my way.

Yeah. that it's just like, hey, look, you're you're not you're not my client. I was like,

yeah, let here's let me go watch these videos. Go read these books because trying to convince someone like that, it's like they can't hear it. I I sometimes even give a a simple example. If I gave you the keys, I got four different vehicles. If I gave you the keys to these vehicles, paid free and clear, could you could you come up with 10 grand? They're like, "Of course I could." Why? Well, you're offering me all these cars that Okay. Okay. It's the same principle with just about everything else. You got to go figure out how to go get 10 or 50 or 100 grand. And but they they can't make that distinction of, oh, this is the same thing. this guy's whatever a 10 15 20,000 $50,000 program but ah it's yeah I they don't see the future possibility of what it's going to be. So those people I'm like hey good luck man I just smile cuz it's like they'll never get it.

No. And those those are the people I give the little advice. Yeah. I give them a little advice. Yeah. Those are the people I give the advice. I'm like hey go do this. Don't eat this stupid [ __ ] Go work out. Hey, there's these five or six books, you know, please go read it. I think the best example of this was there's a guy named Mark Divine. Mark Divine is a former SEAL commander. Mark's great seal.

Yeah. Sealer. Yeah. Hi, Mark. How are you? Um, I asked him, I said, you know, when someone comes up to you and they say, you know, I I want to be a SEAL. What does it take to survive boot week? He knows in that moment, they're never going to become a SEAL. If you're asking, what do I need to survive this? You're not ready to be a SEAL at all. is like, hey, once I get through training, what is the things I need to be prepared for after that? That is a different mindset. It's a completely different question. And it's it's kind of like when because millionaires ask, what do you do?

Billionaires ask, how can I help you? How can I be of service to you? It's a different narrative. If you've got the mindset of like, okay, I just need to know how to get past this first level. There there's a library card. I wish you nothing but the best. Go read as much as you want. YouTube is free. Masle tough on to you. But I think there's some there's some preconceived notions and there's some stuff out there that I would love to have us kind of just go through and say, "No, what are the things that irk you the most in this space?" Are the people like, "Hey, I'm going to go do this. I'm going to go be successful." What are the things that irk you?

Well, that you've covered a lot of them already. When when people are like like they'll see me transform my body and they're like, "Oh, so what are you eating?" I was like, "What? Are you are you serious? Like like what do I eat? They'll ask what do I need to eat or what's the workout? I was like you got to and I'm like all right just be I'm like I just be patient. I like like go do this, go do this. Cuz whenever someone's like man I just I I can't seem to lose this weight. I was like let's be real. You're stuck boys. You you haven't checked your blood work. You don't work out. You go to the gym, you don't push yourself. Let's be real.

You're you're like you're nowhere. You're not even in the ballpark. You're not even in the parking lot. You're not even in the city. You're not. Another one is when you know guys like, "Oh, I just I can't figure out." And they'll say, "I I can't figure out how to close these deal." Like, "What? Oh, I'm too or I want to I want to make a million dollars." Okay, great. What you I have to shoot a social media video. I don't even know how to do that. Like, can you make a post? It's so hard. I'm like, dude, just stop.

Yeah, just Yeah, you can't turn your camera on right here and you can't turn it side. You You can't do that, dude. You're You Who are you kidding?

Yeah. And so, anything in that domain where people they're playing what I call the surface confusion game. There's core action and then there's surface confusion. core action is necessary required actions over and over and it gets boring and it's mundane and it's surface confusion is like I need to go research the right shoes so I can go to what's the best workout outfit what what's the best what like what what's my macros what should my macros be I was like what I I just you know I've built like you there's a lot of patience, but I don't you can't tolerate a lot.

Sorry, I don't know what that word is. Sorry with a P. What is it? I have no idea what that word is.

I don't have love for people like just like Okay. And then again cuz there's there's a different domain. There's like the domain of work and high level straight line straight at it.

And then there's where you operate and where sports and again it's crazy. There's some of the parents on my football team. They're like, "So, is my son going to play? Like, he's he's not happy that he's not playing a lot." I'm like, "Do you want the truth?" And they're like, "Well, yeah. He's just not good enough." If Did you Did you see that kid over there? That kid right there is 6'4", 240 lb as a 13-year-old. You see the other kid? He's 6'1, 255 pounds. your son is like 5'8 a buck 65 the he's like I can coach him and I can help him. So it's that delusion that a lot of people like

I'd rather just have someone tell me did you suck okay% deal with that. So yeah the delusional conversations that people have is painful. Well, it's funny because the conversation that needs to have it was like, "Well, that's a really hard conversation." Like, again, I was a pitcher. They're like, I had a coach come up to me like, "You've got a great arm, but you can't find the strikes, so you're never going to make it." I was like, "That's right. You keep thinking it's next to the guy you kept hitting with the ball." I was like, "You're right." And I knew I just can't find the strikes. That is not a gift that was given to me. So, having that harsh conversation was like, "Okay, I'm going to go do something else now. I'm 6 foot.

I can't dunk a basketball. I'm going to buy an NBA team. I'm not going to try and be on an NBA team. Let's have a come to Jesus here. There are constants and there are variables in the equation of life and people want to sit there and change constants. That is a waste of time. You influence the variables. You will get a different result. But people don't have these because they're not spending the effort to hire someone like you that sits down and says, "Okay, how long have you been cheating on your wife? Okay, what's take off your shirt?

Let's have this conversation. Okay, show me your pantry. Okay, show me your habits. What are you doing with your phone? Wear a Fitbit and tell me what your sleep habits look like." Because let's have a come to Jesus here. to really break these things down. I just don't think there's enough people that are honest enough even in in in your space to have these conversations because they want the money. They're not going to come up and have these hard hitting and hard-hitting conversations.

Well, I remember I had a guy come through my program and he was he was probably high 400s pounds. So he comes through like he I think we drop get him to drop like 150 lbs over the course of a year. We get him to confront things in his marriage and his business and then he kind of faded off. So he comes back to renew and I remember he's in the room and my my team's like, "Hey, he wants to come back in." And I think the renewal was like maybe 40 grand or something. I was like, "No." And my team's like I said "No

we don't we don't need his money. that 40 grand if we take that it's going to cost us it's going to cost us energy and time and that's not the guy we like our program can be associated with like he has to be and he begged I said then you I go if I take your money which I don't need like he's in a group experience I said I need you to like follow through do what you say you're going to do stop stop doing the yo-yo stop doing the 52 diet 5 days clean two days not clean, zero results. Stop doing the yo-yo in your relationships, in your business, unless I don't need you to come back 6 months later and ask the same questions that you asked 6 months ago to only feel good about all the answers you're getting. Because I've been a part of masterminds where people come every 3 to four months and I'm like, they're say like I'm looking at my notes. You asked this four months ago. You haven't done anything about it. Are you kidding me?

to quote this like come to Jesus real real talk straight talk fierce is required and

if people aren't willing to do that then you're like dude as for us we we can't take them on you can't it cost you more than it does to take them on

and and people think that we're doing it because we get joy out of being harsh or doing it with a hammer I'm like no

I'm trying to eliminate pain I've been where you are I know what this I if you saw someone on fire. You're not going to ask them what it feels like or how they feel or how long they've been doing it. I'm going to try and throw a bucket of water on you as fast as I can cuz you're on fire. I'm not going to hold your hand and tell you you're pretty. We'll deal with that later. Right now, you're on fire. So, I don't It's not that we're doing this because we're like, "Hey, this is fun and we want to pick on people." No, I know what pain feels like. I don't want that for you. It's it's it's a level of being a high impath. However, I like me a lot more than I like you. So, I'm not going to waste my time or my energy. I'm like, "Hey, here's the answer. Go do this."

Like, I've had a client similar to you uh be with the 400 pounds. But he wasn't being his work and he wanted to reup. And I was like, "No." And he's like, "Okay, well, but here's the option. Here's your plan for the next 3 months. Send me a picture every day. Send me a result every day. You don't have to pay me anything. Here's your plan. I won't talk to you for the next 90 days. If you do all these things for the next 90 days, I will be open to having a conversation with you. For 20 days, he did everything I asked him to do. Didn't do it for 90. I said, "Cool. Thank you for saving us both a lot of time." It's not complicated. So, when someone comes to you and wants to have these, how long does it take you to have this come to Jesus with them?

You know, if it's early on in the conversation, the come to Jesus happens real fast and then I tell them what it takes to work with me and they're like, "Oh, okay." Okay. I'm like I'm like, "You should just go buy my book." And I had that the other day like, "Hey, just" He's like, "I I want to do what you do." And and whenever people say, "I want to do what you do." I'm like, "That's that's like someone looking at a college football coach. I want to coach college football on Saturdays."

Those guys want things. Their wives are single moms because they are recruiting. They're they work. They leave at 5:30 in the morning. They get home midnight for half the year. The other half they're recruiting. So, you know, I it's early on where I can just say, "Look, here's what it's going to really take, and I need you to go home. I need you to go home and think about it." They're like, "Why?" Cuz they're like, "No, I'm in. I'm in. I'm in." It's like, "You want to do what I do? You better be ready to go through hell, fire donation sleep snow tempest world. Like, you're going to get rejected. You're going to get kicked in the teeth. You're not going to make any money. You're going to question yourself. if you're going to question like your life

all the time. And if you're not ready to do that, you don't want to do what I do. It it it looks like you want to do what I do. So again, some people that come to Jesus is early. And for some people, they're they're they're really good at pretending. And so as a coach, I've got to check and be willing to cut them off and say, "Look, you're we can't even like mid midway through a relationship, they they pay significant amount of money. I'm like, I I can't I'm going to break the agreement. We're We're done. Like, why? I'm like, because you're wasting your time and my time and your money and my money. Like, you're like, this is we're not doing anything. I'm not a therapist. I'm not a psychologist.

I'm not a doctor. If you want if you need those things, there's great people out there that will listen to you for hours. I am a coach who you declare what you want. We get committed. You write me a check and then we go create that thing together and I be who I need to be for you and you be become who you need to be to go raise the 250 million or to go do the Iron Man plus get your children back and or to build this thing over here and become the speaker the influencer like it's it's not complicated. Do what's required and you will get the results that are desired. Doing your best is for kids. Doing what you know is for amateurs. I I even had someone the other day said, you know, we gave it all we had, so go easy. And I'm like, that's why you failed.

That's why you failed. And I just, you know, I had to block these guys. I'm like, I I'm trying to shout, man. I'm like, I coach people for a living. Like, if you don't do what's required, you will never get what you desire. And your answer right there, we gave it all we had. Like, go back to the job. That's And that's okay. It's not bad. That's okay. That's your lane. Stay in your lane. So, if someone wants to work with you, what do they have to do to require what's required before they even pick up the phone or reach out and say, "Hey, what would you like them to do in advance?" Because I've got a laundry list for me.

Yeah. So, for me, I I tell people I'll tell people, "Look, go listen to like a dozen of my podcasts. Go get a feel for my energy and how I talk. Go buy my book. It's called Gameanger, right? That's satelli.com/game. Go. I'm running the free plus shipping right now. Go pay 12 bucks just for tip. We'll ship you the book. There's an audio book. Like read that and then go go look at yourself in the mirror and have a real real conversation because if you're going to come to me and we're going to have a conversation, it's going to be really simple. I'll just say, "Look, this is what it takes to work with me and you write me that check." And then, you know, it's a significant investment, but it's a real commitment. That commitment means, hey, you're going to change everything in your world. you're going to go upside down, inside out. And so I just tell people, look, and and most people won't even they won't go listen to the

podcast. They won't bo and read the book. That makes it really really easy for me. But if someone's like, "Oh, I read your book. I went through the podcast. I bought your three different courses." I'm like, "Let's have a conversation." So those simple hurdles just weed most people out cuz you know, it's like the I really want to do what you do. Can we talk? No. these things first.

Yeah. So, if people want to track you down and find those books and find those courses and find the podcast, where are these things? How how do they find you?

So, like my site www.se t m agi.com that's just that's my first and last name. If you do a for/gamecher, it's going to take you to the book. My podcast is called Game Changer with Satimangali. So, there's 600 episodes you can choose from. And there's all kinds from 10 years ago to 5 years ago to 3 years ago. And my my podcasts are short. They're punchy. So it just gives you a feel. And again, everything's on the hub of my site, my socials. But just tell people like you got one shot at life on the planet. So if you're not actively and intentionally building the life you want, then you are un unintentionally building a life that you don't want. And that's on you. So my satellite.com, you'll see my socials, you'll see the book, it's all there. And it's what we've talked about here. Like it's not easy. But again, living a life of regret is not easy.

I talk to people all the time about they're like, "Well, organic is so expensive." I'm like, "It's cheaper than chemo." Going through your entire life and wasting your time and sitting around and go, "Oh, maybe I'll do it one day." it it's far more expensive than reaching out to someone like you. Man, I can't I can't appreciate it or thank you enough for coming on and I really appreciate just you're spending the time.

It's great to be here. Thank you for the great conversation. Uh it was awesome. We don't have these conversations too often with other podcast hosts or people because yeah, it's usually pretty fluffy. So, I appreciate you man so much.

Yeah, these are the private conversations that don't normally happen. So, thank you for being having the courage to do it out in public and have that real because most people just want to make money versus like let's have a real come to Jesus. So, thank you for having the audience. Have a come to Jesus, man. I appreciate it.

Appreciate it. All right, that wraps up our episode. This was one of those that I was actually a little worried about publishing, but we both sat down and he and I were like, you know what? Let's get it to him. No one out there is being honest. No one's talking about what's proven for real success. Everyone's holding your hand and trying to give it fluff. That's not what he does. That's not what made him successful, and that's not what anybody makes anybody successful. I hope you guys like this one. I hope it gave you insights. I hope you stuck through even though it was uncomfortable. But it's the only way to be successful.

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