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Memoirs Of A Daddy: Wednesday, February 25th, 2026

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Memoirs Of A Daddy: Wednesday, February 25th, 2026", an episode of The Toast published February 25, 2026 (1 h 17 min, about 18,811 words). It mentions 34 people, works and ideas, including Olivia Oshry, Call Her Daddy, Alex Cooper, William Franklin, Ben Soffer.

What this episode is about

A candid, conversational look at daily life and relationships, highlighting playful banter, behind-the-scenes drama, and quick takes on personal anecdotes from co-hosts. The episode centers on interaction dynamics, Valentine’s Day stories, and the evolving personas of the hosts.

Key takeaways

  • Public authenticity is currency, but oversharing fake-izes influence—protect your drama like a brand asset.
  • Valentine's saga reveals social-media economics: overcompensation buys attention, not affection, and costs pile up.
  • Discord between image and truth fuels engagement, yet honesty wins trust when the mess is relatable, not sensational.
  • Tiny acts (flowers, dates) become big plots online; leverage mundane details to reveal character, not just drama.
  • Micro-contradictions (protecting family, exposing mistakes) create tension; embrace nuance to keep audiences hooked.

Who speaks in this episode?

  • Jackson Claude (Host) · 27 min speaking
  • Shak (Guest) · 14 min speaking
  • Claudia (Guest) · 12 min speaking
  • Zach (Host) · 5 min speaking
  • Ben (Guest) · 5 min speaking
  • Dar (Guest) · 3 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Target, Valentine's Day, Olivia Oshry, Self Checkout
  2. – 20:00: Target, Remarkably Bright Creatures, Abigail Shrier, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck
  3. – 30:00: Container Store, Home Organization, Daniel Radcliffe, Robac
  4. – 40:00: Call Her Daddy, Alex Cooper, William Franklin, Daddy Issues
  5. – 50:00: Call Her Daddy, Daddy Issues, Dave Portnoy, Alex Cooper
  6. – 1:00:00: Target

Notable quotes from "Memoirs Of A Daddy: Wednesday, February 25th, 2026"

  • I should say welcome to the toast. Now, you're stealing my eye in Thank you, Claudia, for joining us today. Claudia, tell us about yourself.
    about Olivia Oshry · at
  • I also went to Target yesterday. Now I know what I'm going to say. Like this is not that it's an amazing magical place.
    about Target · at
  • That's the price of them no longer paying cashiers. It's like you're losing it on the selfch checkckout app.
    about Self Checkout · at
  • Let me go fiction. So I was reading like a bunch of covers and I got him. Have you read Remarkably Bright Creatures?
    about Remarkably Bright Creatures · at
  • Help. They don't just sell containers, but they do also sell containers. They have experts at the store to help you create systems that actually work for your space and your…
    about Container Store · at
  • Can I tell the story? name so maybe I should say who she is. Sophia Franklin is writing a memoir about the Call Her Daddy fallout. So Sophia Franklin, the co-creator of Call Her Daddy, announced this morning that she is writing her.
    about Call Her Daddy · at
  • And then she did it for one year and then she and then the next year she got 60 million from Spotify.
    about Alex Cooper · at
  • For suit man. The book doesn't come out till November. So like Okay. Talk to you then.
    about Daddy Issues · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Olivia Oshry — Person · Referenced person (sister called during episode) · 3 mentions · first at
    Called live to confirm a memory about a sisters trip to Los Angeles and an emotional moment about growing up.
  • Alex Cooper — Person · Core topic (referenced counterpart in fallout) · 3 mentions · first at
    Discussed as the other half of the Call Her Daddy split, her documentary framing, and her later Spotify success.
  • William Franklin — Person · Core topic (memoir author; podcast drama figure) · 2 mentions · first at
    Her announced memoir about the Call Her Daddy fallout is a major news segment; discussed as the 'injured party' and for her perspective.
    Can I tell the story? name so maybe I should say who she is. Sophia Franklin is writing a memoir about the Call Her Daddy fallout. So Sophia Franklin, the co-creator of Call Her Daddy, announced this morning that she is writing her.
  • Ben Soffer — Person · Referenced person (host's husband; subject of anecdotes) · 28 mentions
    Discussed in the Valentine's Day flowers story, Shabbat phone-off habit, and as the intended reader of a Target-purchased book.
  • Dave Portnoy — Person · Referenced person (business figure in podcast dispute) · 2 mentions · first at
    Discussed as the Barstool boss who negotiated with Alex Cooper and Sophia Franklin during the Call Her Daddy contract dispute.
    Then Alex said met with Dave and met with Dave and said, I'll take that deal. And she got Sophia's 500,000.
  • Zach Weinreb — Person · Referenced person (Jackie's husband; part of anecdotes) · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as sending Jackie flowers and attending the Palm Beach design show with Jackie.
    I'm so happy for you. Zach and I took a field trip yesterday. We went to this design show in Palm Beach that's like a really big Everyone's talking about it.
  • Daniel Radcliffe — Person · Referenced celebrity (Broadway discussion) · 3 mentions · first at
    Used as an example in a discussion about Broadway stage-door expectations and fan entitlement.
    Oh, you know what? That just reminds me I saw a video of Daniel Radcliffe. You know he's on Broadway as well. Don't you feel like everyone's on Broadway?
  • Abigail Shrier — Person · Referenced expert/author · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced as the author of 'Bad Therapy', a book Jackie wanted Zach Weinreb to read over multiple years.
    I thought it was like really insightful and he enjoyed what he read over multiple years.
  • Monica Lewinsky — Person · Referenced public figure (viral sound/content) · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as part of a viral sound trend used by others, illustrating the hosts' perceived 'range' in cultural references.
    What were Dylan and Monica up to?
  • Dylan Mulvaney — Person · Referenced public figure (viral content) · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned alongside Monica Lewinsky as part of a viral backstage/Broadway content moment.
    I think Dylan's on Broadway and Monica went to see the show and then you know you go backstage you make content.
  • Mel Robbins — Person · Referenced person (book display at Target) · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as a prominent author whose books were 'all over the place' in Target’s limited book selection.
    Target, it's not Barnes & Noble. I feel like it's like airport books. It's just the Mel Robbins was all over the place and like a bunch of cookbooks, which I was going to get…
  • Curtis Wayne Wright — Person · Referenced architect (analogy) · 1 mention
    Used as an analogy for how designer attribution can increase a home's value during the Palm Beach design show discussion.
  • Jackson Claude — Person · Referenced person (intro tag / unclear identity) · 1 mention · first at
    Appears only in the opening line ('It's Jackson Claude') and is not developed further in the episode.
    Good morning. It's the It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.

Books & papers

  • Daddy Issues — Book · Core topic (announced memoir) · 4 mentions · first at
    Sophia Franklin’s announced memoir about the Call Her Daddy fallout; discussed for its cover, title, and potential adaptation.
  • Remarkably Bright Creatures — Book · Recommended/considered book (for Ben Soffer) · 1 mention · first at
    Claudia Oshry buys it at Target as a Shabbat reading option for Ben Soffer, citing marine-life/aquarium themes.
  • The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck — Book · Referenced book (example of 'non-reader' starter book) · 1 mention · first at
    Discussed as a common book owned by people who don't read; contrasted with better 'gateway' fiction recommendations.
    People think you need to start with that. If you start with it, you will never You're never going to continue.
  • The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo — Book · Referenced book (gateway reading recommendation) · 1 mention · first at
    Cited as a 'gateway book' that helps people realize reading can be fun and narrative-driven.
    Like romcom books like Yeah. And then also Seven Husbands is a gateway book. It's just a little long.
  • The Art of Not Giving a F*ck — Book · Referenced book (misnamed/merged with Subtle Art) · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in a muddled recollection of a popular self-help book with an orange cover that non-readers often own.
    The art of not giving a [ __ ] The subtle art. The subtle art of not giving a [ __ ] Maybe that one. and something like that.
  • It Ends With Us — Book · Referenced book (analogy/joke) · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced jokingly to compare a 'roof scene' trope to the Call Her Daddy negotiation 'roof' meeting.
    It's so true. Like the roof scene in it ends with us. The roof scene in dad is Daves during co but they went got together on a roof during CO. Are you.

Companies & orgs

  • Target — Company · Referenced company (shopping story; self-checkout discussion) · 8 mentions · first at
    Used to discuss shopping convenience, delivery options, and a comedic/self-checkout ‘tax’ anecdote about scanning items.

Concepts & topics

  • Self Checkout — Concept · Core topic (shopping experience) · 2 mentions · first at
    A major comedic segment centers on self-checkout errors, 'self-checkout tax,' and labor/benefits jokes.
  • Fiscal Conservatoriness — Concept · Referenced concept (personal value) · 1 mention · first at
    Claudia Oshry uses it to criticize overspending on Valentine's flowers as wasteful overcompensation.
    And then he had to like and then this is just like where you're going to piss me off because I am all about like fiscal conservatoriness.
  • Cultural Activities — Concept · Referenced theme (adult culture vs kid activities) · 1 mention · first at
    Jackie Oshry frames the Palm Beach design show as an adult-oriented cultural activity compared to kid-focused museums/aquariums.
    Every we do a lot of cultural stuff but it's always like for kids like for all science like I haven't done some a cultural activity like for just an adult self and it was very cool like oh everyone's doing cool stuff happen for you guys.
  • Marine Life — Concept · Referenced interest (Ben Soffer preference) · 1 mention · first at
    Used to justify choosing 'Remarkably Bright Creatures' for Ben Soffer due to marine/aquarium themes.
    [ __ ] Okay. There it was Marine Life on the cover and Ben loves Marine Life. And then I was reading the back and it's like a thriller. Somebody goes missing and then she also works in an aquarium.

Places & events

  • Valentine's Day — Event · Catalyst event (anecdote trigger) · 6 mentions · first at
    The Valentine's Day flowers incident drives the opening segment and sets up discussion of honesty, spending, and relationships.
    I want to talk about something that happened yesterday about Valentine's Day.
  • Palm Beach — Place · Referenced location (design show trip) · 1 mention · first at
    Setting for Jackie Oshry and Zach Weinreb’s design show visit and vlog.
    I'm so happy for you. Zach and I took a field trip yesterday. We went to this design show in Palm Beach that's like a really big Everyone's talking about it.
  • Kips Bay — Place · Referenced location (design show context) · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as a known design show brand/association; contrasted with the NYC neighborhood and movie theater association.
    Well, the neighborhood is called Kips Bay.

Media & podcasts

  • Call Her Daddy — Podcast · Core topic (podcast drama reference) · 5 mentions · first at
    Central to the episode’s major news story: Sophia Franklin’s memoir about the Call Her Daddy fallout with Alex Cooper and Barstool.
  • Good Guys — Podcast · Referenced podcast (Ben Soffer's show) · 1 mention · first at
    Cited as where Ben Soffer told his version of the Valentine's Day flowers story.
    I also can't believe that if we hadn't just happened to mention this like stupid flower thing that you would never know that he said that on Good Guys.
  • Tell Me Lies — Media · Referenced media (TV schedule) · 1 mention · first at
    Used to describe the hosts’ weekly TV-watching routine ('Tell Me Lies Tuesdays') and motivate reading instead.
    Me to I haven't read in months. I And I did it more so for myself. Like I would love to. We have a TV schedule, tell me lies Tuesdays.

Sponsors

  • Container Store — Company · Sponsor (home organization retail) · 3 mentions · first at
    Advertised as a solution for home organization; hosts discuss professional organizers using it heavily.
  • Home Organization — Concept · Sponsor-adjacent topic · 3 mentions · first at
    Discussed in the Container Store ad read as a lifestyle improvement tied to calmness and productivity.
    And what's better than being addicted to something that's so good for you? Like organizing. Because when your life is organized, you are organized. You feel calmer, you get…
  • Robac — Company · Sponsor (apparel brand; spelled 'Roback' in ad read) · 2 mentions · first at
    Advertised for mock necks and biker short sets; tied to Princess Diana style reference and discount code.
    Containerstore.com/to a s and that will get you a special discount. Today's episode is also brought to you by Robac. We have some very exciting news for the Toasters…
  • ASPCA — Organization · Sponsor (pet health insurance) · 1 mention · first at
    Advertised as ASPCA Pet Health Insurance; hosts discuss crisis line usefulness and enrollment perk.
    Containerstore.com/to a s and that will get you a special discount. Today's episode is also brought to you by Robac. We have some very exciting news for the Toasters…

Full transcript with timestamps

Good morning. It's the It's Jackson Claude and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Why am I having such a hard time this week? Tuesday, Wednesday. Happy Wednesday. It is hump day. Don't forget to hump someone you love. And speaking of somebody that I love, it's Shak. Hello, Miss F. Thank you so much for taking the time to join our show.

Of course, I always take the time. You act like I'm someone who doesn't take the time.

I know. I'm not We're not like a guest in based show. So, like sometimes it's fun to welcome people to the show

to pretend that I'm your guest. Yes. And you do have like sort of like multiple sides to you and it's like kind of like a new guest every day.

Really? I feel like I'm so like rock solid. You know what I mean? Very dynamic.

Thank you so much. You have multiple personalities. I have multiple rocks in my solid. So, if I was your guest, like what would you want to be interviewing me about?

I wouldn't cuz I want to talk about myself and something that happened to me too.

I should say welcome to the toast. Now, you're stealing my eye in Thank you, Claudia, for joining us today. Claudia, tell us about yourself.

Well, I want to talk about what it's like to be turd self. I want to talk about something that happened yesterday about Valentine's Day.

Okay. The flowers. Yeah. What? You were saying it like something I don't know like like you were about to tell me a story. Well, you kind of don't know. I don't What happened in your house?

I told a story on the toast yesterday that um like Ben also told on his podcast and his version was like, "Oh, slam dunk on Claudia." Like, okay. So, obviously,

I also can't believe that if we hadn't just happened to mention this like stupid flower thing that you would never know that he said that on Good Guys.

Yeah. So, Yeah. Right. Because I don't listen to their show. So, I told a story, if you're not familiar with this saga, yesterday that like on Valentine's Day, we were at Jackie's house and Jackie got flowers and I yelled at Ben for not getting me flowers, but turns out they were at home and we just weren't home and they were very beautiful and I had to apologize. And then Ben went on his podcast saying that when we were at your house and Zach sent you flowers, it reminded Ben that he didn't get flowers and so we went into the other room in that moment, ordered flowers and then they were there when I got home. And like obviously I knew that like I was trying to protect my husband like by trying to make him look good.

He's like disgustingly honest. So yeah, the man forgot to get me flowers. Imagine how many years have we been together? 15. No, not a single flower. And then he had to like and then this is just like where you're going to piss me off because I am all about like fiscal conservatoriness. And because Ben went so nuts and didn't get flowers, he had to then overcompensate. So instead of like a normal person getting like three dozen roses, he got seven. Um it was $700 on flowers that I threw out two days ago. So, like that's dumb. Yeah.

So, not only are you forgetful, but you're also irresponsible. Like, jail twice, two life sentences.

Yeah. So, yeah, guys, I know it wasn't like a big, oh, look, turn. Like, I knew

that's like really sweet. I You No, like I lay it all out here on the podcast like to a point. Like, I'm trying to protect my family. Like,

I had no Just want you to know I really I bought what you were selling. Yeah. And like I I make like my bones on like making fun of Ben. So, like sometimes I try to protect him and just like not everything needs to be shared. And in his defense, he was like, "Well, I assumed you were just going to tell the story on the podcast." I'm like, "No, I protected you. You didn't protect yourself." Like, I can't help you there.

So, your protection ends here. Oh, yeah. No more Secret Service detail. Also, I'm sure the florist like has upcharges people who ordered like who forgot to order flowers. And they definitely have extra flowers that they know there's going to be people who need them same day.

And you could charge like 3X for delivery. You can literally charge 3X. That is a desperate person you're talking to. Yeah, lish extremely desperate. And the funny thing was that Ben has started to like not keep Shabbat, but on Saturdays he's been turning his phone off to like be more present and like connect with the Lord. And I think it's great. So Valentine's Day was on a Saturday and he had to use my phone behind my back like not on my phone on using my minutes all the floor.

Watch how he like didn't know his credit card number. So put it on my credit card.

Probably went into your Apple Pay thousand%. Thousand%. So that's what I get for trying to protect my husband. duly noted. Won't happen again.

Okay. Well, thank you for your honesty, though. You were dishonest with us yesterday.

I wasn't dishonest. I like wanted to share a funny story, but I don't need to lay

No, I understand. I hate this whole like you have to lay your whole life out online to be an authentic influencer. Okay. I'm not

No, but it it's been 24 hours and I told the truth. And she told the truth. Yeah. So, that's what

cuz you also could have continued being dishonest and said I No, but now I look like a fool. Oh, I don't [ __ ] think so. I don't [ __ ] think so. Not today. She's nobody's fool.

This foolishness ends here. Yeah. I also went to Target yesterday. Now I know what I'm going to say. Like this is not

that it's an amazing magical place. It was such an amazing magical place and it was just ruined by the fact that I had to pee. So I was like rushing through it when I really wanted to be leisurely. And it's funny how like day uh not Target on a weekday is like a daycare. There were kids everywhere. Like I guess if you're like a single not a single, sorry, a stay at home mom or you're like home with your kids like you're just going to go to Target. Yeah.

They should do music class. Like they have a Starbucks. They need to open like a little gym or one of those gym places. Um it was so magical. Like I love I haven't gone to Target for convenience these days. Like if I'm ordering from Target, Target online

has the best delivery. You get same day delivery. Target Instacart. I know. But you pay an upcharge on Instacart. Target website delivery. Target Circle. You could shop from the store locally and it comes directly to

You could also like pick up and then get like one of the best spots. Parking spots. Yeah. Sometimes I park there when like

I'm not picking up and assume. Okay. Cuff me up. Um. Wow. First she's lying. She's breaking the law.

Oh, and I did steal because I went to uh Target and I had a card of about a hundred things. I spent Yeah. I spent $400. I needed so many things and it was selfch checkout.

So, I did my best. I did my best. I didn't realize you've been through that. I did my best knowing that like I probably wasn't scanning like each thing maybe correctly. And I just thought like that's the tax of making me selfch checkckout. Like I had multiple items like I bought like um like 10 onesies like baby onesies cuz we needed new pajamas and I was scanning them all.

I didn't hear the beep every time and I just thought selfch checkckout tax. I tried.

Yeah. Like and you should be playing paying me. I'm your employee now. That's the price of them no longer paying cashiers. It's like you're losing it on the selfch checkckout app.

And at this point, like I'm a cashier. I want benefits. I want health insurance. I want this onesie.

You're the checkout girl. When I was walking out homes. Yes. I work in the market as a checkout girl. When I was walking out like I heard a beep

and and I said selfch checkckout tax and I kept walking. Nobody stopped me. Okay.

I spent $453. Like I'm good. So Target, you heard all that. Um do what needs to be done.

I'm a big fan, but there are improvements to be made. Okay. And I like how they all have Starbucks. A lot of them have Ultas now. I love that. Um, they should put a daycare or something. Like they would make bank.

Yeah, bank. If they That's where the mamas like to go. The real's mamas. You guys, it was jam-packed with kids. Like I felt like the only person there who didn't have a kid with me. And I felt weird.

Rub missed out. No, I felt like inappropriate. Like it's like if I went to like a music class without a kid. It's weird.

So, um, it was amazing. I got some great stuff. Oh, good. I'm so glad. That I paid for. Of course.

I'm so happy for you. Zach and I took a field trip yesterday. We went to this design show in Palm Beach that's like a really big

Everyone's talking about it. Everyone's Everyone's talking about it. Have you been to Kips Bay? I'm like no. I'm like the movie theater. That's what it's called in the city. The kids movie theater.

Well, the neighborhood is called Kips Bay. Yeah. But nobody goes there unless they're going to the movie theater.

Yeah. Well, people Unless you just graduated college. Nobody my age goes to Kips Bay. Unless you're going to the movie theater.

Yeah. Or the fairway next door. Um and it was so cool. Spritz was a sponsor, so we were just like the bell of the bar.

You were kind of like the big wings. Yeah, that's my beverage. Anyone want a sip?

Yes, we donated and we vlogged. So, I'm not going to like spoil everything of what we saw, but it was seriously sickening. Like really cool, talented stuff.

I would find like an event like that upsetting cuz then like I have to go home to my house that looks nothing like this fair. Fair.

Yeah. But the fair thing was like so cool. So, it's in a house. All these designers, you have to be like selected. You get a room to design and everyone does their own thing with it. They do their big one, of course. They they literally put in new toilets for if you get a bathroom

and then what do they do with that house afterwards? They leave it. It belongs to the owner. Like the owner who lent his house out, he then gets the house.

Who was the owner of the house? I don't know. But then like a mansion. Yeah. And this time it was like two houses. It was like a mansion on the inter coastal and across the street a cottage. Like the guest room.

So cute. So cute. And every room is so different though. So I wonder if like if it's No. Or it's like maybe there's a couple rooms that they wind up just like taking some stuff down. It's a lot to live with all the time, but yeah, you get like a free insanely decorated house.

And I wonder if that like increases the value of your home. Kind of how like, you know, oh, this home was designed by Frank Lloyd, right?

But this home was designed by 20 different It was a part of the big festival. Yeah. Zach and I were discussing in the vlog, but I just thought that was so cool.

That is really cool. And they also do one in New York and Dallas. Really? Yeah. Like in a New York City apartment or a house?

I feel like in an apartment cuz it's New York City. Really cool. Love that. Look at us just like expanding our interest. I haven't like done something culturally that wasn't like the museum the children's museum

or being a housemaid or going into the aquarium. No like every we do a lot of cultural stuff but it's always like for kids like for all science like I haven't done some a cultural activity like for just an adult self and it was very cool like oh everyone's doing cool stuff happen for you guys.

Well speaking of culture you know what else I got at Target. What and I would love to get your take on this. So Ben has been keeping Shabbat. Great. Um, and he said he wants like a Shabbat book because he gets so bored and a book would help. He like refuses to do a Kindle. He thinks it's like not the same. So when I was at Target, I'm like, "Let me find a book for Ben that I think he would be interested in." And in the past when I've tried to get him to read, I've gotten memoirs. Um, he did like Rich Paul's memoir. Um, but other than that, like it hasn't stuck. So I'm like, "Let me go fiction." So I was reading like a bunch of covers and I got him. Have you read Remarkably Bright Creatures?

No, I haven't. Okay. So I had heard of it. I've heard of it, too. And it like What? What? No, I just can't believe that's what you got for it.

Wait, why? Like, first of all, it's like, you know, part of the similar like crawads of like literary fiction, guys. Popular. Yes. And I think Dana and Rebecca read it and it was not recommended.

[ __ ] Okay. There it was Marine Life on the cover and Ben loves Marine Life. And then I was reading the back and it's like a thriller. Somebody goes missing and then she also works in an aquarium which is Ben's dream to work at an aquarium. I think Ben might It wasn't for me. It wasn't for me. It was for Ben. like it's a book that I should have read because it's like, you know, Zacky books,

good readads. Um, but it did not come recommended to me. In fact, it was not recommended to me.

Okay. But I think that might still make it a candidate for Ben. You and Ben are very different.

And I like I like what you're doing. Yeah, I tried. And you know, books at Target, it's not Barnes & Noble. I feel like it's like airport books. It's just the Mel Robbins was all over the place and like a bunch of cookbooks, which I was going to get for bed. So,

I was limited. like I couldn't find like niche books. It was just the good readads hot 100.

Yeah, it's a good readads hot 100. Um, let me know how it goes. I endorse this message.

He plans on only reading on Saturdays, so it'll be like a couple of months before

Well, if he loves it, he will read it on Sunday as well. Yeah. And Monday and Tuesday until he finishes it because that's what a good book does. If you're really only reading it every Saturday, then you don't like it.

Yeah. And you I can't pick up a book and then like days later or weeks later pick it up again. I have forgotten the entire thing.

And it just means I didn't like it. Like really? Yeah. If we're being real. If we're being honest,

because if I loved it, I can't put it down. Correct. That's the thing about books.

I'm about to read. So, I'm hoping that Ben's book will get me to I haven't read in months. I And I did it more so for myself. Like I would love to. We have a TV schedule, you know, tell me lies Tuesdays.

Yeah. Last night was a light load, right? So, I'm thinking like we are in a heavy schedule with TV and like on the nights now Tuesdays have opened up. like on the nights like that, maybe we could read. And I thought if Ben had a book, maybe I would then pick up my Kindle.

That's so cute. And that's really goals like reading in bed with your partner and then like putting on moisturizer.

And then also like you've both read each other's books so you could like talk about them, right?

You know who does that? My friend does that with Sam and Ben. Yeah. Well, they're both like really um

smart. Smart, but like in a books way. Like we're all smart. I think Dana and Josh probably do that. Like he recommends a lot of books to her and like sometimes she'll even like make them for the redheads. They like swap books.

That's like elite living. That is living on a different planet than the one we're currently on.

We just doom scroll. We just swap real share memes. No, I want to get to a place where like we're moisturizing and reading.

Yeah. In bed, you and then like Ben like will take off his glasses. Yes. It's such a scene, right? His and her sides of the book, they're both hides sides of the bed. They're both reading. She takes out her cream of moisturizer. She's like rubbing her elbow. Um and they say like, "Did you know Winston Churchill?" yada yada. Like I just want to know things.

Yeah. Yeah. goals. Yeah, we'll get there. We'll see. No, like that's really okay. Resolution.

Resolution is you in bed reading. Well, you're on your way. He asked for a book.

We're halfway there. Yeah, you have to want I'm not there. We're not there. All right. You'll be there.

Actually, there was a book I wanted Zach to read and he endeavored to to read it over the course of multiple years.

Oh, multiple years. He didn't like it. It was um Bad Therapy by Abigail Shrier. I thought it was like really insightful and and he enjoyed what he read over multiple years.

Does he talk Does he reference it ever? Like No, but like every time we go somewhere, he brings it.

Oh my god, that's so [ __ ] cute. That's actually better than if he had finished it.

Yeah. Even when we were dating, like he would always like bring a book like if we went on a trip or something.

Wow. I deeply relate to Zach in that way because it's a book is also like an image thing. It's obviously nourishing the mind, but also having everyone around you know like yes, I read.

Yeah. But like he would always like want to he would always bring a book on the trip and it was always the same book cuz he never actually read it.

And that's hilarious. Now that book is that book for him. Got it. Got it. Like his go-to.

His marriage book. Well, the book that he wants to read next. It What was the book for? What was the first book?

I think it was the one with the orange cover. It was like um The art of war. No. Um

how to not give a [ __ ] Like subtly. The art of not giving a [ __ ] The subtle art. The subtle art of not giving a [ __ ]

Maybe that one. and something like that. People who don't read own a copy of that book.

I know because the funny thing is I think like that's the one you start with. Yes. Because I've been like talking like for years with Remy Bader about how like I actually think she would love to read. Especially when she became really famous on TikTok. It was very bad for her mental health. And I was like if you take a couple hours a day off your phone to read. I think it would be really good for you and you love like all the shows and everything like t books are shows

and I've been dying. And she was like the one book she has and she's like okay I'm going to read it. She's always posting about this book, The Orange Sub Art of Not.

People think you need to start with that. If you start with it, you will never You're never going to continue.

Just start with Colleen Hoover. Okay. Colleen Hoover is the gateway book. Yeah. I I think Varity is the gateway book.

Okay. I think that's a great recommendation for me. The gateway book was recommended by you. It happened one summer. When I read that book, I was like, "Oh, I didn't know that books were like this. I didn't know we were reading like romcom books like

Yeah. And then also um Seven Husbands is a gateway book. It's just a little long.

No, but that is really good. That's where that's when I read books. I'm like, "Oh, this is what books are." I was My whole mindset on books was school.

Yeah. Literature, boring. We have to like find double meaning in everything. Is it a pencil or a penis? Like I was like, "This sucks." I didn't realize like that books were just TV shows and TV shows are books.

Yeah. And we could just read for fun. But you know what Margot said once? Like Margo watch?

Yeah. like a cute, insightful thing she once said when she talked about when she was the first one in the family reading and she she needs

she gets credit there. She gets really like annoyed when we don't when we were on tour she like would bring a Kindle and it was such a vibe killer. I'm like can we go out?

Yeah. And like when we would go on family vacation up until like I started reading like she would always like be in the bath reading like so she read first. Okay.

By the way and she said that she likes reading over TV shows because like you know what the character is thinking.

That's very insightful. Isn't that cute? It's not cute. I I knew what I thought you were going to say, but

I just thought it was cute. She like, you know, the cutest thing Margot ever said, do you know what it is?

She wants to be a mom and a cheerleader. Oh, when you would ask her when she was a kid what she wanted to be, she would say a mom and a cheerleader. Um, no. You're going to remember it though. Like, we were in LA.

Okay. Okay. So, you don't remember? I I'm not I'm not there. So, we like took a sisters trip. Remember we stayed at the Mr. C hotel and they had the two really small beds and we had to share two small beds. Um, Margot like started crying one day and we were like, "What's wrong? Where were we when she

were in the hotel room sitting on the tiny bed? Okay. We must have been like getting ready or something and she started like tearing up, getting upset and we were like, "What's wrong?" And she like couldn't explain it. And she was like she was like makes me sad like we're not always going to like be doing this. Like oh my I'm literally going to cry like talking about it. It was so sweet. She was like like we're not all just like going to be like sisters like this. Like it was very very sweet.

Oh my god. I don't remember. I didn't know that that had happened. You don't remember that? I was

I feel like we need to take a sister's trip to LA with her if I was so like impacted by it. Like

that's so I you know it's not really like congruous with the way I I think she feels about us. So maybe she misses us.

It's a cry for help. Maybe she misses us. It is a cry for help. I think we should take a sister trip to LA and sit on and share Mr. Seabeds.

We have to share. Okay. We have all have our own room. You like to share room. I do. I love sharing rooms. That's my dream. Like us all being in I know what Margot was saying. Like it was such a girly moment. We were getting ready for something. We were like having we went to like Chicone for dinner. It was like so f it was like a fabulous trip. I don't we don't like do that like we don't do sisters.

No. And she's right because we used to be like a unit a unit. We used to do every like every Saturday night it's like what are we do like we're going out with our friends but we're all going like we're just like one group every vac like we were always going on trips and this and dinner and this and that and it's obviously not like that anymore.

Yeah. And so she was kind of like speaking truth about what the future would hold. Yeah. Like everybody went on and like grew up and did their own things and made new friends and got married. Like it was very

It was mostly just like married with kids cuz it's not like we like made new friends and ditched our sisters.

Yeah. We're always life is different now. Life is different now. It was very sweet

and we were that that was like really when we were the scenes. She literally said it's not always going to be like steamy vibes. It was really sweet.

I mean it's it isn't always I wonder if she like Am I making this up? No. I think for the second day in a row we have to call Sache.

Okay. But like tell her we're recording. I will of course. And also like I feel like it's a little personal so she might like say she never said it but like know that she did just like Olivia Brian

but know that she Hi. Are you the toilet? Okay. I won't show you but we are recording and I wanted to ask you if you remembered something or if I'm making this up because you know I do sometimes I make up memories.

Hey Sachi. Do you remember when we took a sister's trip to LA and we stayed at the Mr. C hotel?

Of course. And you said the beds. Yeah. And you said the cutest thing ever. Okay. I probably don't remember that, but what?

Like we were all like sitting in the room like getting ready or something and you were like you got upset and we were like, "What's wrong?" You like couldn't explain what was wrong and you basically were just like, "It's never It's not like not always going to be like this." Like Steeny vibes the four of us. Like

Oh, I do remember saying that. Okay, good. I I just wanted to make sure I wasn't making it up.

Oh, I was ahead of my time there. Yeah, that cuz you were right. And she wants to go to LA. Do you want us to plan a trip, the four of us, and we could stay at the Mr. C hotel and stay in tiny beds again?

I think now at this point in our lives, we can do better than Mr. C. But yeah, I would love to.

Okay. Um, enjoy your poop. She would love to. You You would want to do that? You would want to do that?

I would love to do that. Do you miss us? Of course. And I will see you Friday. Yay.

Yay. Love you. Love you. Maybe we do like a station like one night birthday. We plan a trip to LA.

That's really cute. She's so cute. That's a just when you think she's going to zigg.

It's so true. She zags. She zags back to her sisters. We are like the best. Who wouldn't zag to us? Like we're the best.

I know. That's how we feel. There aren't two more charitable. Everyone's using our sound.

Monica Lewinsky. Team USA. Team USA. But Monica Lewinsky. Monica Linsky and Dylan

Mulaney. Like when I say we have range, that's what I'm [ __ ] talking about. Everyone's using

in the same day the men's hockey team. It was men's and women's. Oh, right. Men's and women's. And that's

it was the official team USA. They they had all the men's and women's hockey team together and then they said, "We are two of the most fabulous whatever." I don't even

I just want to say it was a social media manager. She a was like two teams. So, we are two of the most Yeah. crush it. I don't even know the sound. Um

we we are two of the funniest, generous, charitable people. And I know us like offline.

And then Dylan Mulvaney. The fact that we have so many haters genuinely blows my mind to this day.

What were Dylan and Monica up to? I think Dylan's on Broadway and Monica went to see the show and then you know you go backstage you make content.

Oh, you know what? That just reminds me I saw a video of Daniel Radcliffe. You know he's on Broadway as well. Don't you feel like everyone's on Broadway?

Yeah. Like Jake Shane is on Broadway. Jake Shane, Whitney Lee Abett. Um, and Dana Radcliffe's like of course in like a critically acclaimed and you know part of it being a Broadway actress and I just want to say I never want to be on Broadway please. Unless it's the role of like we're making a full reprisal of Hairspray. Do not come do not come knocking on my door. It looks like the worst job ever. You make no money and it is so [ __ ] hard. And then when the show is over, you have to do the back door. So you leave the stage door. You can't just like finish a hard day of work, get in the car and go home. You have to go out, sign play bills, take pictures. And so many videos I'm always seeing like, "Oh my god, you know, Jesse was so nice and Whitney was so mean."

Like, you know, they say like Daniel Radcliffe like literally put on his puffer coat. It was like the Blizzard. Ran out. People didn't even see him because he put his hood on and he just thought he was like a staff member who worked there. And the comments were like, "Oh my god, like you didn't come to the stage. You hate your fans. Oh my god. I could never." The fact that Broadway actors and actresses have to do a whole performance after like after doing that have to go outside and take a picture with every single person and sign everything single play bill or else you're like not like or else you hate your fans. Oh my god, I hate that [ __ ] I could never.

Yeah, that sounds like you have to stand outside everyone's filming you. You're exhausted and if you don't do it exactly right cuz the Broadway folk like they take that back door stage thing like so seriously. Um, and I forget who it was that like didn't do it. Like, oh, the person who hates his fans the most, Ben Platt. Ben Platt was like, "I'm not doing it." Like, he literally like was like he walked out was like waving. And I just want to say I respected that.

Yeah. That's I I don't take issue with that. No, me neither. The fact that like so many Broadway people like they just they just do it like you have to.

Yeah. When I'm sure all you want to do is go to sleep. Yeah. No, I Daniel Radcliffe said not today.

I won't use that again, Ben. I have enough. Yeah, of course. Court adjourned. Um, let's get into the stories, right? Because that's the job we're here to do.

Mhm. Much like those Broadway actors, right? And we love the back door. Okay. We love The Back Door. Our title.

You actually, you say like I just wouldn't go to sleep. You would love it. Remember when we used to do Jizno?

I would [ __ ] That was seriously I actually [ __ ] Ben Plat because that was the high of a lifetime.

It's so true. When we did Gizno and like certain venues like the Beacon when literally they put up barricades, there were so many toasters like why don't you take a picture of us?

Seriously, it's a drug. I can understand. And I want you guys to know like we knew that people were outside. So we had like a whole presentation like we told everyone to get in the car like take our stuff. We can't be carrying like bags. I said take my jacket. Like I I wanted to be and I had like a red solo cup cuz I see like cool people like drinking and we were going to our afterparty

and I walked out and I was like surprised. I was like, "Oh, you guys for me?" I was like, "Oh, that's so sweet. Let me Yeah, I can take some pictures." Like, "Oh, autograph. Yeah, you have a Sharpie." We when I tell you it was like that's how people like die from fame addiction. Like I understand how you then become addicted to heroin. Like because there is no high quite like that. The fact that we didn't become drug addicts after that is insane.

100%. And I I have no sympathy now for dangling except for a blizzard, but like seriously that moment of admiration like it's

Yeah. I feel like it would actually make you want to get up and go to work. Yeah. That's what you do it for.

It looks fabulous. It looks alloring. And I can tell you as somebody who's done it, it feels more than that. Like

Yeah. So when you see people like getting paparazzi like leaving like Kimmel or whatever and there's like like when there's two

barricades and it's civilized. You're not being like when I see those episodes of Kardashians where they go to like different countries and people like storm their car that is horrible. I'm talking about barricades police officers. Yeah. That look

and you're just like walking like Yeah. No one's touching you. You're just getting photographed and you like look the way you want to look.

Yeah. We need to get paparazzi more. We should just like hire someone to follow us around.

Yeah. We should have like we need paparazzi at those when we did that, you know?

Absolutely. Call paparazzi. Um for the next time. We should do it just now soon. Like we're both sort of like free to do it.

Yeah. Um yeah, couple months. Give me a couple months, you know. Some things to do.

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Thank you Turt Masone. I tried to write this in the family chat but like there was a lot going on and nobody answered me. So um remember like two three weeks ago when it was a Monday it was the Monday after the Super Bowl and I wasn't on the show.

So I had to take R to the emergency room. He's totally fine. I didn't want to talk about it then because I was like scared but he's completely fine. Um, and I got a bill. I got a bill like a couple of days later, of course, you know, they don't miss a beat. And it was $3,000. And you know, I've heard forever like it's, you know, I'm Erica and I read the fine print so you don't have to. And they always say like if you call the hospital and ask them for an itemized bill, they will send you one that's almost always like half less. They overcharge people cuz people don't ask for itemized bills.

You get charged for things that you don't do. And I've never done it before. And I was like, "Sure." Like, "I don't want to pay this bill right now." So I called. called. The lady was so lovely. She said, "Yes, you will receive it in about 10 days." I got it yesterday.

Less. So, the original bill, let me just get you the exact amounts. Okay. Okay.

The original bill was $3,376 and the bill that I got yesterday was $8,446. So, whoever started that [ __ ] lie on the internet that you should call for an itemized bill, [ __ ] you. Okay.

Oh my god. You know what? I'm dealing with right now. You know what I get for like mutkering?

You know what I'm dealing with right now? What? When I gave birth and then I'm checking out of the hospital, they're like, "We'll mail you a bill." I was like, "No, I want to pay it now because if you mail me a bill, I'm never going I don't I don't

What about insurance? Like they already did my insurance like whatever. Pay when you leave like a hotel."

Yeah. And I literally am wearing a diaper carrying a baby and I'm like, "Here, charge me. I don't want a [ __ ] bill. I'm not going to pay it. Don't look at my mail and I can't get my bill. Like I but I want to pay this. Very magnanimous of you.

Bleeding post day after I gave birth. I paid my bill so that they would leave me the [ __ ] alone.

Okay. They call me every day with a charge. What? Every day I have a mis call, but I don't get it because I have my screen calls on and I don't have their numbers, so I never even see it. That I have an outstanding balance. I'm now getting mail from the hospital that I owe them money.

They undercharged you? No. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. But like I what happened in between when I left and now? Unless like my insurance didn't cover as much as they thought it would. Sounds like a you guys problem. Agreed. Agreed.

Sounds like a you problem cuz I spent a couple grand on my way out the door. I'm done.

That's big of you. Like what? Yeah. Um my hospital bill for Ruby was just about $1,000, which I was shocked by.

That's really the these people on these their bills, they're crazy. No, that's why that's why I did the itemized thing cuz like it's kind of like fake, you No, they just make up prices.

No, they just make up prices. I We had to go to the hospital over the summer one time and so I've been just getting bills from that which I paid and then another bill like

Yeah. $45. What? Yeah. Right. So, that's just something I'm dealing with and thanks to that girl on TikTok who started the fake rumor.

I know this isn't going to be like a new statement or anything, but like the health care system is broken.

I mean, I watch a pit so I know how broken it really is. Like it's really broken. broken.

Like, I paid my bill. Like, what are you calling me about? No, I didn't do any new work. I can't believe you paid your bill. Like,

I know, but that's how much I know myself where it's like if something comes in the mail, like

That's so funny cuz like that wasn't even an option for me. Like the bill I was like, who wants my card?

The bill just comes like later. No, I That's crazy. I don't roll like that. No, I didn't. There wasn't like a desk with a credit card machine. Like, I don't even know where I would have done that.

On checkout. There wasn't a checkout. They just gave me papers and they were like gave

someone your credit card a couple grand. She went shopping on the real or something

and now I'm getting like my bill. Yeah, that's funny. Um, okay. Let's get into the stories cuz we still haven't done that yet.

Oh my god. Sorry, I just saw the clock. Sorry. Our first story are kind of two of our favorite categories of news.

Podcast drama. Oh, and memoir news. You guys, I was not prepared for this cover. She released something. Sorry. Can I tell the story? name so maybe I should say who she is. Sophia Franklin is writing a memoir about the Call Her Daddy fallout. So Sophia Franklin, the co-creator of Call Her Daddy, announced this morning that she is writing her memoirs specifically about what happened in 2020 with her podcast Caller Daddy that she started with Alex Cooper and the fallout from that. The memoir is called Daddy Issues and the cover, as Claudia was just about to say, was not what she expected. I mean, it's a picture of Sophia and Alex, like probably from 201 18, like early picture of their friendship, and Alex's face is like crossed out. It's like cut out.

It's giving that scene in Mean Girls. This girl can't be trusted. She is a ugly [ __ ] Like, the cover is insane. The title is Daddy Issues, which, you know, we love to criticize um

a memoir title. I think it's a great title. Well, it seems like Sophia has not really leaned into like the daddy branding because when she launched her first podcast after leaving Caller Daddy or like being booted, whatever. Um, I think a lot of people thought she was going to do something daddy like as well, whether it's like single father or whatever. And she totally like didn't lean into the branding at all, which I do think was a mistake. Um, and so now it feels like she's going like full force with it. I'm I feel like she's going to put in her Instagram bio co-creator of the Caller Daddy podcast. Like because now I went on the website, her bio it says Sophia Franklin is based in New York City and is a co-creator of the Call Her Daddy podcast. Like now she's like taking credit where up until recently like she wouldn't have.

Yeah. Um the way you describe the cover. So I think that the the format of it is like looks feels a little funny but like it does feel like Mean Girls Burnbook. And when I see this book I'm like I feel like this will be turned into a show like because we

she should sell the rights. She should sell the rights. this would be like such a great show and this would be like the piece of material that they need to go out and make a show.

And the funny thing is that while it was like the biggest story ever and Alex made that one YouTube video after that, the girls never talked about it. Like when Alex has ever been like like interviewed or like even alluded to it, she like has a boundary up where she won't talk about it. So actually I believe that a lot went on behind the scenes that people still don't really know about. I think there's like actually a lot of meat for both girls to talk about. It seems as though Alex is that's like a no-go for her. Um like it it's sort of buried and she's moved on and won't be going there. But I think it's very hard for Sophia to take that same route because like she's sort of the injured party.

Yeah. Sophia like talked about it in podcasts and stuff like she goes on other she's been on this show, she goes on other shows and like we'll talk about especially when like the $60 million Spotify deal happened, but it seems like from the description of this book that there's a lot more that happened. And I think by the time Sophia was ready to tell her story, like people had moved on and it's like hard to just like start screaming and and be like, "Wait, what about

and people being like you're still talking about that?" Right? And so I think she's talked about it a little bit, but that there is more. And I think this book is also about like her healing journey. And I think we're going to like read more about like why she like there was months before she even put out her first video. Like I think she was like paralyzed. Yeah. I think she went from like first of all they had such quick success. Like they had were the number one show in the world like above Joe Rogan and it hadn't even been a year yet. So to go from being like an unknown person to that level I think is traumatizing. Like nobody can handle that. And then overnight like you're the devil, your man is the devil. like an entire bar stool, everyone like coming for you, making merch about you, making fun of your looks, making fun of your family.

Like, she got it so bad that she's really um so a lot of people were like, "Make a video, make a podcast, do something." She didn't come out with Sophia with an F for like months. I agree. I think like she was probably, and I'm sure she'll talk about this like really in a bad spot mentally.

Yeah, I think that that is what a lot of this book is going to be about. It says the memoir will delve not only into her time on Call Daddy. So, probably like the rise too, which is also just interesting.

Very interesting. If you ever go back and watch their vlogs, they were crazy. They were so crazy. They were so funny.

They were magnetic. Like, it's it's no shock that they were as successful as they were as quickly as they were because they were magic together. They were just crazy [ __ ] [ __ ] like living in New York

doing what whatever they wanted. Like, it was insane. So she said, but it will also talk about the emotional and physical result of her fallout with Cooper, feelings of betrayal and learning how to reinvent herself. She said, "The decision to write the book was one I came to on my own. Six years ago, I was reeling from an experience I didn't understand. I needed to grow up and be free of ego as much as humanly possible." Um, she said, "For her, losing call her daddy also meant the loss of her friendship with Alex.

Everything that we had been working toward and planning for the last year, half a year to year was suddenly not the plan anymore. and Alex thought we just needed to stay with this company and do what Dave was saying. I found out later that Alex and Dave 10,000% had this relationship that I was not aware of and not a part of. I thought Alex was my best friend sister and we were not hiding anything. There's no way in hell I would speak to our boss without you. That would be [ __ ] crazy. And I don't think that went both ways. That's what Sophia had said in 2023 to Rolling Stone. But then I think the impetus for this book, at least in the like video that Sophia posted yesterday, is like the documentary. So, Alex had her documentary on Hulu. It came out last year.

Call Me Alex. Call her Alex. And they talk about like the inception of the show and the falling out a bit

briefly. And I think that the way that now the story is told is Sophia is now like

I don't think so. Hold my dear. Well, I think it's been very um convenient for Alex to repackage how the story went because Sophia hasn't spoken about it. So she thought she was safe on it. Sophia has moved on, started her own show, like we're not going back there anymore. So when it came time, she could have like, you know, I think she just probably glazes over, you know, just like we wanted this, we were getting paid this, we were the biggest show in the world. Dave is in the documentary saying that they were paying a lot of the salaries at Bartool. They were locked into a three-year contract and two years into that deal, they became the number one podcast listened to by women and they deserved more money. And they did.

Yeah, they did. And he made them a deal that Alex said like, "We couldn't refuse and if I do it for one more year, we get the IP." And she thought that was a great deal.

And Sophia didn't want to take that deal. No. Or they didn't tell Sophia about the deal.

No. Sophia didn't want to take that deal. From what I remember, and this is just my memory. They were each offered half a million. 500.

They were making $60,000, like 70,000 plus bonuses like and merch. And so all in all, I think they were making like a hundred or $200,000 a year when

they had the number one podcast in the world, which is insane because like Joe Rogan makes like $30 million a year.

No. And you the math was coming out that like their episodes were generating a million dollars for the business.

Yeah, they got like a million downloads an episode. Like that's [ __ ] crazy. Or maybe they're maybe they were generating $100,000 per episode. Something insane. Like more than their yearly salary.

Yeah. Um, so then the deal that we had heard was that they were each offered $500,000 to continue the show for one more year at Bar Stool and then they would have their IP,

a little piece of merch, right? Like a percentage of their merch sales. Like little things was $500,000.

And Sophia said that wasn't enough. Sophia said that wasn't a good deal. And then Alex said

met with Dave and met with Dave and said, "I'll take that deal." And she got Sophia's 500,000.

Oh, so she got a million. Yeah, she got a million for that year. Oh, that's kind of crazy. I didn't know that.

Yeah. Yeah, that's how I remember it. And if I'm wrong, just let me know. Yeah, that was such a crazy time.

And then she did it for one year and then she and then the next year she got 60 million from Spotify.

Right. And Spotify and I'm sure Sophia will talk about this. The Spotify deal was $60 million like for Alex to continue exclusively releasing on Spotify, but also for the back catalog. So all the episodes that Alex did with Sophia that were extremely valuable like the Mil Hunter, right?

Milk Hunter. That was like they had like a lot I don't know. They had like a lot of sagas like famous episodes like people go back.

Yeah. Right. Things people would go back and watch. So they were really paying for the inventory as well. The 60 million was for future episodes but also past like the archive. And I think that's where Sophia was like really felt robbed where it's like well okay you're selling her voice like her actual voice her stories this time she got arrested the time she accidentally did meth like that got sold to Spotify and she didn't make any money from that. Like that's really crazy.

Yeah. So, I'm sad for this book. And I want Alex's side, too. Alex is like, you know, I get it because like it's murky and Alex is so moved on. And I do feel like the success of Call Her Daddy now is all Alex. Like she like you cannot. And I think that that's really something like she's probably insecure about not people being like you took the success of two people and made it all your own. You can't deny that like how far Alex has come is all Alex. Like she is a marketing like she knows what the [ __ ] she's doing.

So, I think she's hesitant to go back there because she doesn't want it to undercut her current success, which is fair, but I do think the early days and like the whole saga, like I don't think people know like how wronged Sophia was.

Yeah. They thought she was just like being stupid and like letting her man, you know, write the terms and like that he wanted their podcast. I think he was just like trying to lend his business sense to her because they had something that they didn't know what to do with. They were so underpaid. It's a joke.

And even 500,000 is like it's not enough. It's not like 1% of what they make. If they had been a unit and like continued to negotiate either with Dave or left and they didn't have the IP, but they could have started another podcast at that height. Like there were options for them outside of it. But it seemed like there was things going on between them in their friendship that like Alex didn't want to be with Sophia anymore.

And it it seems like that Sophia didn't know about it. Yes. like that one person's like this friendship doesn't serve me. This is toxic and you know we're not because Alex said in her documentary like it's a situation where what it seems on the internet is not what it was like in real life.

I feel like Sophia thought they were best friends. Yeah. Like roommate sisters lovers for life.

Yeah. Yeah. So I would would I I don't know if this will encourage Alex to speak up. I feel like Alex is never going to go there. Like that's

And I'm sure she like felt like she covered it in her documentary and box checked. We're good.

That's that on that. Yeah. And when she went back to the bar stool office they were like do you talk to Sophia? I think that like she thought she was really opening up a lot there and like she covered her bases, but I would I would really love to hear like a rebuttal

and I feel like we have heard Alex's side like even when she put out that video when it all went down and then she was like, you know, telling us like see you guys see you [ __ ] Wednesday. Um, she shared her side in the roof and everything. Yeah, the roof. Um, so it's really like Sophia's side that hasn't been heard and

I don't really think Alex will respond to it, but I think maybe Sophia's sharing her side will show people things that they didn't think. And at the time they thought she was just being like a stupid girl being like used by her boyfriend.

And I don't think that's what happened. I don't think so either. And like Yeah,

it was like kind of like a tragedy. It's a tragedy. Her and her man, like her man being like, I wish I never helped these two [ __ ] Like

he was ruined. He was a very successful executive at HBO. So he like worked in media. He knew the scene. He knew that like his girlfriend was getting robbed by this company. So he was like, "Yeah, sure. Let me help you and your friend." The friend ends up like cutting a deal. Dave decides like not only is Sophia my enemy now, but her man is and was selling merch about him. He ended up losing his job like years later. I don't think it had to do with this, but like kind of like a very sad story.

Yeah. For him like Yeah. But I think he's happy now. I think he's married and they like broke up.

Yeah. Yeah, they were good. I mean, I don't really know how a relationship can like and it's just like

But they did stay together for a while left. I'm curious if she'll talk about him in the book.

She has to. I know, but I think she's like if I don't actually don't know this like I just have a feeling like maybe she feels like I dragged him into this like media storm once before like let me let the man have peace.

But if it's for justice, maybe we can let the man have justice. Yeah. I don't know.

You know. Yeah. I think she has to bring otherwise he stays like it really can't get worse for him.

Yeah. For suit man. The book doesn't come out till November. So like Okay. Talk to you then.

Yeah. Talk to you then. That's a really long time. It's unfortunate. You can buy it on Saturday for Ben. It could be his Saturday book. I think he will like it.

I think he would like it too. Oh, and title name. What do we rate it? It's very good.

It is very good. Now, it's not memoirs of a daddy, but I also think she talks about her upbringing. I believe she was raised by a single mom. So, there's also like daddy issues. Of course, call her daddy, but then also your father. I think I think don't quote me on

but I also want to say like if this were bought like the name of a show Daddy is she's it's a sleigh.

Yeah. No, I think it has real potential. I I imagine part of her motivation for writing a book was having it be optioned cuz that's like a thing now. You write a book and before it even comes out, somebody buys the rights to it because we're like big into book adaptations. And I'm sure when the idea was floated to her, um that was like a huge part of it.

Somebody should buy the rights before it even comes out. Like this will be a great show. Yeah. Period. Because it's an insane story.

Yeah. It's an insane story. I can't believe it hasn't been like fictionalized already.

It's so true. Like the roof scene in uh it ends with us. The roof scene in dad is

Daves during co but they went got together on a roof during CO. Are you guys not mad about that?

I'm cracking up. I didn't even realize it was a roof in CO. That's it was a roof in co and it was three strangers who were like sheltering who were

two. I thought was just Alex at the meeting or Alex and Sophia. Alex and Sophia and Dave. And

it's hilarious that they had they were all quarantined in different places and they got together from three different places.

Call the co police. I think we need some retroactive cancellation. Agreed. Down.

It's only right. It's only fair. It's only fair. Are you ready for our next story, which is some more podcasting news?

Oh my god. Yeah. Lil Dicki and Benny Blanco have a nude podcast. Yeah. And it's

it's bad. It's um there was a video like going viral of Betty Blanco like farting into his microphone

and his feet up on the c his bare feet. Yeah. The thing is what I love about this industry is like the cream's going to rise, right?

Um I don't foresee this being the next Joe Rogan, Caller Daddy, Theo. Um and I know, you know, a running joke is like don't give men podcast mics or they should make podcast equipment more expensive.

Oh yeah. I've seen I see a lot anytime like there's a stupid podcast that people comment like tariff podcast

it's like funny but I actually like that it's such like an a low lift accessible medium because like anyone can do it that means anyone can be successful at it so it's really talent based right so these are two people with you know unlimited money for clips editors set building audio engineers and at the end of the day if it sucks it sucks no matter how much money or status you have and I love that like I love to see successful people fail so I'm excited You know what's so interesting about this? Also, Liil's wife is a co-host, the third co-host. Kristen,

does Selena like make an appearance? I'm sure that she will, but their podcast and it's called Friends Keep Secrets. It's produced in partnership with J Shetty's podcast. Oh,

and now that I'm thinking about it, remember when Selena and Benny went on J Shetty's podcast and it was like really great for Benny and like I forgot that that's where I landed with Benny like oh this like very cogent like emotionally intelligent indiv because then I just saw like this Farta Palooa.

Um but going back before Farta Palooa like oh he actually should have a podcast

right he seemed like very smart and had to say I forgot that was like I guess a very fleeting feeling that I had when I saw

it's funny that he went into business with J Shetty. It must have been like really overwhelmingly a positive thing for him.

Yeah. But it's like doesn't he produce every major song? This is just a hobby. This is not a money-making venture. By Blanco's just fine.

Yeah. But it's like this is a very timeconsuming hobby. Like why does everyone want to do this?

People don't think it's time consuming. That's why. And I guess if you have like unlimited resources and you don't need to book your own guests, edit your own episodes, make your own clips, like have any part in it other than sitting down for 60 minutes. Most people who start podcasts are very involved in no matter how many resources they have are very involved in the strategy of the podcast. But if like if someone's producing it for you, you literally just show up once a week for an hour. Fine. Like that's I think what Amy Polar does. You know, like she has a great team around her.

Yeah. But I could also see why for Amy Polar like starting a podcast is the next logical step in her career.

Do you know what I mean? Like no actually if I was Amy Polar like I wouldn't have done a podcast. But that's why I'm wrong.

What would you do? Like more shows and movies? Well, first of all, I don't think she needs to do anything. I think like there are a couple of things that you

I don't think this is a devil's work term. Of course, I'm talking about financial, right? So like now it's like what are you interested in? Um I don't know. I I when she started a podcast I was like okay like kind of like corny, you know?

No, but a comedian starting a podcast like Yeah, makes sense. Yeah. Like you have stuff to say and you're

But I don't think of her so much as a comedian. I think of her more as like Tina Fay, right?

Comedy. Yeah, but like they're writers. Yeah, they do comedy but like they're writers, they're producers. They create like they're more like BTS. So, if Amy, if Tina Fey started a podcast today, I'd be like "Okay."

Yeah. I don't know. It didn't seem like an obvious choice for me. Um, no. I feel like Tina Fay is about to start a podcast.

Oh, really? It it would seem like she's just copying Tina. Is it like not her? Because remember when she said she hates when like celebrities like have work outside of

thing? Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of mean, but it's like Yeah, it was mean, but it's like, oh, I'm not talking about you, you, or you.

Yeah. Right. Like Meanwhile, um Once Upon a Farm just like got acquired or went public or something for like

like over a billion dollars, right? Not enough. Not enough. It's not enough money.

Give them more money. I agree. Like what a sleigh. Yeah. And actually, when I was at Target yesterday, I was in like the baby section. All the pouches were like out on the shelf.

Not refrigerated. Not refrigerated. It's I mean, and now I'm used to just refrigerated because once upon a farm, I think that's really crazy. Yeah, it's crazy to think about shelf stable.

Like would you eat a piece of fruit that was sitting on it? Well, dried fruit would sit on the shelf. So, there are ways of like I mean it's not like there's nothing wrong with it, but like fresh

fresh is best. Fresh is best. Are you ready for our next story? A little fresh news. Kim Kardashian is joining Energy Drink brand update as a co-founder. So, Kim Kardashian has taken a new brand under her entrepreneurial belt. She is now the co-founder of the Parisanth powered energy drink brand Update founded in 2022 by Daniel Solomon's. So Update is an energy drink that does not have caffeine, does not have alcohol, and it's an energy drink.

Okay, I'm so fatigued by this. Like Update, I know that Kim is like constantly working. That's like her thing, right? Meanwhile, like skims is like enough to pay the bills and then some. like she's a billionaire many times over because of skips. Um like okay like I'm just like I'm fatigued by this. Like I got it with Kylie too when Kylie did Sprinter which was just so inauthentic. Like

but to me this tells me this seems to tell me that Sprinter is a success. This looks like Sprinter. It feels like Sprinter. Now Kim wants a Sprinter.

I've never seen anyone drinking a Sprinter. No. Me neither. But that's like look the

It looks like Sprinter. Yes. They do. So it it makes me feel like oh being in the beverage industry is this success for the girls 8182.

Yes. Because what is what does this do? Is she So she had an update once and she said, "Oh my gosh, I have to get involved."

Although I heard something about 818 from somebody really in the no. Um but they had gotten like an acquisition offer for like under a billion dollars. I think it was like 750 million and they didn't take it because like you know the Kardashians are obsessed with the Billion and that was the number that they were going for and now the value like and that was at the peak of the company. It's kind of like on not on its way down but it has stabilized. Um and so I actually don't think like all in all that was a good decision.

That's crazy. I feel like there has to be more to that story. Well, it's just what I heard

from someone like in the know update. Yeah. update like okay like she said she first discovered Update three years ago. She said it immediately aligned with how I think about wellness and energy.

Yeah. I saw this video she put out and like my eyes just rolled so far to the back of my head. I'm sure it's a good brand like she does her vet rigorously. Yes. In energy energy drinks are so bad for you but for a lot of people they're so necessary. So I feel like a lot of our you know a lot it's a trend now like you know better energy. I feel like we have a lot of like neurogumin mints one of our sponsors. Like it's a very trendy thing now to try and find like caffeine alternatives, beverage, sugary drinks alternatives. So, she's on the on trend.

I'm sure it's good, but it's just like an eye roll. It's like enough little influence. She said, "I'm someone who moves at a really intense pace, but still prioritizes focus, balance, and what I put in my body." Same for me. I would say

the energy category can feel loud. An update offers something different, a more intentional approach designed for sustaining energy. It became part of my routine very naturally.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it's, you know, you look at the success of like Celsius, literally the biggest brand, and Celsius is so good. It's crap. Like the stuff inside of it, like

not as crappy as the other one. Red Bull. No, Celsius was like a better alternative to Red Bull. So, we're all trending upward, right? And so, this is just a very on trend.

I need to see a picture of Daniel Solomon's. Yeah. I was saying the same thing. A nice Jewish man for um for Chloe.

Yeah. Or for Kim. Oh, who's she dating? Louis Hamilton. Oh, yeah. She's not interested in Daniel Solomon's. But for Khloe, I love it. He's so cute with little.

Yeah. Should should he be businessman of the week? But he hasn't done anything.

He roped Kim into being a part of this brand. I'm sorry. You don't go from the CEO of Hermes and MGM Grand to like some random.

I need to know more about like his personal If Daniel Solomon's comes across our desk one more time in an organic way, then he could be BMOW.

Let me like look at I'm not I'm not willing to give up on Axel Demo yet. I'm still waiting for my birthday. Maybe look at his ex account like does he has he been to a Kelly Clarkson concert recently? Like what's he up to in his personal

If Daniel Solomon's has been to a Kelly Clarkson concert, then yes, he could be businessman of the week.

I have to look at his link. See, I looked. Why don't you research him while I let everyone know about today's sponsor, Gold Bond?

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Thank you, Tedurka Honey. You're welcome, Jurka. Our next story, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 17 nominees for 2026.

I know that we like never um like know who they are. So, well, we know some of them.

Okay. Should I start with the ones we know or just go in order of this list? In order.

The Black Crows. I've heard of them. Jeff Buckley. Oh my god. He wrote Hallelujah. My favorite song.

Mariah Carey. Okay. Rock and Roll Queen. Phil Collins. My god, we were just talking about him.

Melissa Ethridge. Uh, lesbian queen. Lauren Hill. Queen. Oh, my favorite movie. Okay, now we knowing everyone. First of all,

Billy Idol. Not Billy Joel. And not Billy Armstrong. Right. Not American Idiot. Okay.

Not Billy Crystal. Yeah. Right. Not any of the Billies that we know. The idol one.

Okay. Ins. I'm going to say. Oh, in six. Okay. I don't know them. Iron Maiden. I used to have a shirt.

Oh, yeah. Of course, a shirt. Yeah. Joy Division/New Order. Love that. New Edition. That sounds familiar.

No, it doesn't. Oasis. Tell Ben. Oasis. They sing. Wonder. Anyway, here's Wonder Wall.

Anyway, here's Wonder Wall. Pink. Oh my god. Wait. Is there going to be there? Because I know Taylor Swift performed at the induction for someone. Will you still love me tomorrow? Um, so I imagine there's like a party ceremony where people sing and we get covers like very like when someone gets honored at the Kennedy Center and like everybody shows up to cover their music, which I know is painful for the person sitting there. Um, so I hope we get like Pink and I feel like Kelly Clarkson would show up to sing for Pink.

You think so? Are they that close? They're not very close, but they're musicians who respect one another and their um joint cover of That's All I Know So Far. That's all I know.

And Pink is wearing like AirPods as earrings is one of like that YouTube video is most watched in my house.

You know who I feel like will show up to as a tribute who's just showing up. What do you think?

It's such a good call that I don't think you're going to get. Who? John Legend.

Is that a good call? It's just like he just shows up. He is like kind of the tribute guy.

He's like the go-to guy. The go-to like tributarian. Yeah. He's very like tribute. fine with everyone.

Yeah. And he like covers like a wide range of music. Um I think people really respect him in the industry. So that's a good call.

Anyway, here's John Legend. Sure. Like when in doubt, John Legend. Like no one's going to be mad.

Yeah. No one's going to be like so freaking excited. Yeah. It's just a safe choice.

Yeah. I like that. Shade. Oh, we're not done with the list. No, there's Shade. Okay.

Shakira. Oh, baby. When you talk like that. Yeah. That's the thing I love about the Rock and Roll Music Hall of Fame. It used to be, you know, anchored by the boundaries of genre, you know.

Yeah. Luther Vandross. Dance with my father again. And who will show up to tribute him?

Who was just talking about him? You. Oh, no. I thought they were talking about him in um like one of the real housewives. Maybe I'm making that up.

Oh, who? Luther Vandross. I don't know. Maybe. Why? Because we were just talking about Luther Vandros. Oh because Sher said Luther Vandross instead of Martin Luther when she announced at the Grammys that CIA and um Kendrick Lamar won.

Oh, that's funny. Bring Sher. Bring Share. That's why we were just talking about Martin Luther. Uh

Luther Vandro. Yes. Thank you. But you just sang that song because we were just talking.

Okay. Okay. Dance with my father again. That's beautiful. But didn't Ruben stuttered sing it on American Idol?

Probably. And I looked at So he should do the tribute. Okay. Sure. And I was saying we were just talking about Ruben stuttered.

Yes, we were. But you're off base. Like we were talking Okay. The reason we both Okay. We talked about

I just I thought we were like more sympatico than we are. That's all. You're not sympatico with the facts right now. Like we were I sang that song because of Sher.

When I said who should tribute him, we were just talking about him. I meant the person who we should we were just talking about the person who

I thought you meant we were just talking about Luther Vandross. No, I meant we should we were just talking about the person who should tribute him.

Yes. Ruben Sider did sing that. Chilling. chilling and when he comes on our podcast where we interview people.

Oh, and I just want to say the name of the podcast is namesake. Yeah. Yeah. Write it down.

It's beautiful. Yeah. You don't even need to write it down. And maybe it's like a miniseries, you know?

Yeah. Like a moment in time. I don't think we can like go on forever. No. Oh my god. I could see us like starting to dread it.

And Wuang Clan. Now, these are nominees. Oh, dang. Oh, some of them have already been nominated.

Oh, so you don't automatically get in? No. Kind of sucks. Yeah. So, they have to work for it.

Okay. Start get to work. And maybe you have to be nominated like multiple times, you know?

Yep. But, um, good luck to the candidates. Go off, kings and queens. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I'm

trying to think of what movie I'm quoting. It's Oh, it's Friends. Sorry. when like Phoebe's just like good luck to you.

Sorry. Continue. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Little Summerhouse programming news because the Summerhouse world is about to get even bigger as Truly original plots next steps. Oh.

So, as we know, Summerhouse is spinning off into In the City. Um, but they are also looking for summer houses of other locations. They are trying to like build out the summer house. They are currently

kind of what Jersey Shore tried to do with Florida Bama Shore. Yeah, they are currently searching for locations for new iterations of Summerhouse itself. The show has a very specific architecture in terms of its narrative. So, finding that is what we're endeavoring to do. There are actually two potential places that we're looking at. So, once we find a place where the architecture is correct, will begin the casting process.

Didn't they do this Martha's Vineyard? Yeah, they did. So, you need a They said you need a place that people go on the weekends, then come back to their own city life. And it has to extend over a summer in order to make the storytelling compelling. It can't be a week or 10 days. That won't work.

I only know like what people do in the tri-state area. So, I know Nantucket. I know the Jersey Shore, which obviously they cannot do. Um I know the Hamptons. So people who live in like other parts of the country like chime in. Where do people go on the weekends

in the summer? Well, first of all, they could do the Jersey Shore. It would it's

good luck to you. Good luck to them, but like it's Slade. No, but I actually would find it like disrespectful.

Yeah, but they could do like Jersey Shore, Tom's River. Like they could call Jersey Shore Long What is the one?

Long Beach. Long Branch. No, but also like Long Island Beach. You know what they should do?

What's that one called? Long Island Beach. Long Beach Island. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. But they if they're really looking for like niche, they should do Deal. Like Mammoth County.

That's where like a lot of like very wealthy people go over the summer and it's like it's not a real place. They should do Deal.

They should do Nantucket. They should even though that's not You don't go back. You have to fly to Net.

That's true. You don't go on the weekends. And why are they obsessed with the whole going back on the week thing

because I think that they don't they like this format for some I think it's like a a flaw in the format is that people always have to go back to the city and that's why I've always felt that they should cast people who can work from anywhere. And after co like a lot of these people could have worked from anywhere. So if they're all like in the house all week like having to work like that's more interesting

I guess but it would be a lot of they can't party like I mean I guess that's why Jersey Shore was so good. Like you're stuck in the same house with the same people

but I guess they're not trying to recreate Jersey Shore. They're limiting it to the weekends where like everyone gives everything that they have. They get to like re I think the format like works for

I think it's a flaw. I think No, I I think that it's good for this show. Like there's Jersey Shore. There's a h there's real world where people live in a house together and then there's this

I think in Texas there's like a lot of lake towns that people go to like remember on real houses of Dallas they would go to Brandy and Stephanie's lake house like what's that?

Yeah. Or like in LA where do people do they go to Taho like Santa Barbara but not for the like a culture where you have like a summer house cuz like LA's it's always summer

I guess because the city is where you really have to get out of the city. Other people don't. They have pools. Even if they live in an apartment, like their apartment building has amenities. In New York, like you need to touch grass literally.

Yeah. And I think it's similar in like Austin and Dallas where there are a lot of like lake towns nearby.

Interesting. Yeah. Where people go every weekend. But I do think like down the shore, Long Beach Island.

Yeah. You're going to get the most characters in Jersey. Yeah. But that is like anywhere where New Yorkers go.

Yeah. So I'm saying, are they just continuing to do the tri-state area? They didn't say. And I'm curious.

I think that's interesting. I'm open and I watched a lot of Summerhouse. I didn't finish the episode. It was a whatever episode. They had like a singles event for Ben the Australian. Lindsay came. She came to the event. Her and Ben are like flirting.

Is that her first? I think so. I don't know. Where is she? And then she came to the um

I'm like more inclined. I'm so over some house. I just want to say sorry until like it's like bopping so hard everybody's like I need you to watch it. I haven't really heard much. you don't need to watch it right now. Nothing's really happening. Except like Jesse asked West if he could hook up with Sierra.

Oh, and what did he say? Uh, he was like shook and he said in front of all the other boys, too. And I think like Wes is feeling like no.

That's really like Jesse and Sierra are in bed together every episode like cuddling, recapping, like being best friends. So their closeness like wouldn't they wouldn't even they couldn't even be possibly closer. Like who cares if they kiss at this point? Like they're literally so close.

Yeah. Like Jesse's a crazy person. Jesse is a crazy person. But I also feel like Wes, like after the way that he went about his business, like he's not allowed to stand in the way. I know that like technically it's bro code, whatever, but like he's just can't stand in the way.

I think if he said yes, it would really hurt Sierra's feelings. Oh, true. But I don't know. I don't know why Sierra doesn't love Jesse back. Like they're so

Well, I hope she doesn't love Jesse back because like seriously, this girl needs to learn her lesson. Like she needs to start hooking up with

Maybe that's why she doesn't love her back. But I think she like does love him back. They're very very

And if she is going to hook up with someone, like it should be Carl. Like honestly, his desperate plea last summer was so sad. And he's like the only one like while I don't find him attractive or think he would be like a good partner for her, he's the only one who's like not a like a dick. Like he's the only one actually looking for a relationship.

Though Jesse says he's looking for a relationship. Oh, please. Yeah, that's I actually can't take him.

Yeah, but it's like you had one last summer and you and it was a great one. You loved her. So like what? No, you weren't.

So you're not you were not serious. Um what was the other thing I was going to say? Oh, so yeah, I'm not watching Summer House. Although I did see like a big conversation maybe it was a week or two ago about like Amanda smoking pot which I thought like actually might have been interesting. Can you explain it to me?

So yeah. So Kyle of course you know in the wrong capacity shares with the group the boys cuz Amanda wasn't there hearing the conversation until she like walked in. Um that

but that's not good. He's talking about intimacy issues in their relationship and that Amanda smokes pot every night that she has for two years. So, it's like they don't really get down because like she's high every night and when would they be able to do that? Which was just like really disrespectful that he shared that with this bunch of like randos including some new people.

Was Amanda upset because is that like was he like was he misrepresenting like that she's

disagree? No. So, she then hears like she walks into the conversation. She can tell they're all talking about her. So, she now knows like they were talking about her and like their sex life which is so not cool. So, like he

thoroughly he was drunk when he said it but he like it ruined their week. They didn't talk all week. the next weekend they had to have a big fight. He apologized in front of the whole table for having said that to everyone, but Amanda's like, "You still haven't apologized to me." Again, going about it wrong. But then the next week they were talking and she was like, "You act like I'm high every night, but I don't smoke until I take the dogs out." So that's like after 10, like you can hang out with me before that. But not denying that she does that she smokes every single night. Um

and that doesn't leave room for intimacy. Yeah. Well, obviously like she's running away from him. So like the pot is not really the problem. It's like why am I smoking this pot? Oh, cuz I don't want to be with you. Like,

yeah. Yeah. But bringing it up in front of everyone, that's really bad. Yeah. It was just like they just keeping one another. Um, what were they up to last night?

Did they introduce anybody new? Cuz I remember there were new girls. Two new girls, Bailey and Levi.

Is there like a makeup girl? A makeup girl. I saw this girl on my Tik Tok when they announced like new people. She was like, "Yeah, it's me." And she was like doing her makeup. She was like a Tik Tocker who does makeup.

It wasn't Bailey. This is not a T. None of them are Tik Toker who does makeup as far as I know. What Tik Tok did I say?

Oh, Dara. We just met Dara. Oh, okay. She is an influencer. Yeah. Yeah. She is very beautiful.

Yeah. She just came. So, Wes invited her to the singles event as everyone had to bring a single. So, he was like, "We used to hook up and I'm bringing her because it didn't work out or whatever." And um someone thought that was we Amanda was like feeling like you're bringing her around to like hook up with her again like in front of Sierra. Don't do it. But I don't think that's the case. And I

in front of Sierra. I thought we we moved on from that. No, I know. If he's bringing someone who he like has he he can't hook up with anyone in the house.

Why? He just can't. That's just No, I don't agree. We're talking about Sierra and Jesse hooking up.

But Sierra's injured party. She could do what she wants. No, I'm sorry. People are allowed to break up with other people and then still hook up.

No, but even but even last summer like when he was like and last summer he was in jail. Fine. He had to act right. But like he's allowed to live.

I don't know if they're going to They say he's on probation. No, I'm sorry. Like he's out of jail. I'm sorry. He didn't even do anything that bad.

Out of jail. He's on probation. Last summer he was in jail. This summer he's on purpose.

Last summer he was in jail because like he got famous and gave a really weird article interview and broke up with Sierra. He was allowed to break up with Sierra, but he wasn't allowed to talk about it. And so yes, you're in jail and you have to act right for a summer. The cuffs are off. I'm sorry. Like this is ridiculous.

But anyways, I don't think him and Dar are He said in his interview, he's like, "I'm friends with a lot of my exes. Like they're really cool people. That's why I liked them to begin with. Like doesn't mean we can't have like a friendship." And I think based on the previews, she's has something going on with someone else in the house later. Good. But yeah, she seems she seems cool. We didn't get to know much of her yet, though.

Got it. Okay. Cuz I had seen a TikTok. And then boys, we have Ben the Australian who was also the Bachelor of Australia.

Oh, he was on The Bachelor. He was on the Bachelor. Oh, you're kidding. And he's really cute. And I think he must be like so insanely charming cuz the way they talk about him. Oh my gosh. KJ, who's also really cute. He's a friend of West's.

I think I met him in the first episode. Skateboarder. Skateboard model. Yeah, whatever. skateboarder/model and I think that's it for the boys right now.

All right. Plus the usual suspects. All right. Um but no, last night like nothing really that major happened. Just like Wes, Jesse, Kenny hook up with Sarah. Sierra and then I think like Wes is going to identify like that he still has feelings for Sierra.

Okay. I I kind of am rooting for them. You are? Yeah. like they were like a real couple and like the fact that he just got famous like so quickly I think really messed with his head and he handled it like an extremely immature man would do.

And then we need like and I like I give grace cuz I do feel he was like like I don't I I believe his feelings for Sierra were really genuine.

Yeah. But his like desire to meet girls that watch I I could get him thinking like this is only going to happen to me once and and I could see like somebody who

he was like right person wrong time. He's not like the smartest guy ever. Like I could see some like him making a mistake like that. Um and if she wants to forgive him like I'm I'll allow grace for that. But if she doesn't want to forgive him, I allow grace for that too.

Oh, okay. Very interesting. Yeah, cuz I felt like at the time like they were a really nice couple. Like and I felt like it was real.

But now like Jesse is kind of in the way. I think Jesse is a crazy person. Like nobody should be with him. He's crazy. Yeah. If you didn't see what he did to Lexi last summer and want nothing to do with him, oh my god, I would never be with someone like that. Like honestly, what he did to Lexi was borderline evil. Like I like you did you literally forced her into a relationship and then did not protect her on TV. Like yucky.

Yeah. Any girl who sees that and is like, "Yeah, that's my man." And whatever happens to you is on you.

Gas her into thinking like you and Sierra are brother and sister and now you want to kiss your sister. Jesse showed women everywhere who he is last season. Whoever he dates next,

people didn't see it. What happens to you is on you. People don't see it that way.

Okay, fine. So, you date him. See what happens. Yeah. No, I I'm with you. He's crazy.

And he keeps saying in his confessionals like he's looking for a relationship. He wants something serious and Wes is the one who doesn't want that.

Wrong. Because Wes Wes can be tied down by the right woman. You think so? I do. Jesse's crazy.

Yeah. Maybe I will start watching even though it sounds like my opinions are like not going to be liked.

Yeah, I'll let you know when it like picks up a little bit. I'm sick of my opinions not being liked. You know what I mean? Like

Yeah. I don't Why is whatever I think about a show like always the hot take. I just feel like we really

we're elevated. We see beneath the surface. Yeah. Maybe because we're like in the industry like and we know

we have extra like life experience that colors our opinions. I'm just like sick of it. People like gh once again Jackie Clott with a bad take. Like what show are you guys watching? Like if I feel crazy.

Yeah. Maybe I won't watch it. Um, but that's it. That's your show. Yeah, it was a good one. I enjoyed it.

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Who speaks in "Memoirs Of A Daddy: Wednesday, February 25th, 2026"?

Jackson Claude (Host), Shak (Guest), Claudia (Guest), Zach (Host), Ben (Guest), Dar (Guest).

What is "Memoirs Of A Daddy: Wednesday, February 25th, 2026" about?

A candid, conversational look at daily life and relationships, highlighting playful banter, behind-the-scenes drama, and quick takes on personal anecdotes from co-hosts. The episode centers on interaction dynamics, Valentine’s Day stories, and the evolving personas of the hosts.

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How long is "Memoirs Of A Daddy: Wednesday, February 25th, 2026"?

The episode runs 1 h 17 min; the transcript is about 18,811 words in 467 timestamped sections.

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