Some Serious Characters.. Ft. Trevor Wallace || Reddit Stories || Two Hot Takes Podcast

What this episode is about

The conversation highlights Trevor Wallace's journey in the entertainment industry, touching on his growth in stand-up comedy and his presence on YouTube, as well as a nostalgic look back at previous collaborations. The hosts celebrate his successes and discuss the evolution of his career, from early performances to significant achievements in television and film.

Key takeaways

• Horse sweaters and nostalgia: the perfect combo for a cozy holiday vibe.
• When your early career is shot on iPhone, the glow-up becomes the ultimate comeback story.
• Improv is like jumping off a diving board—overthinking leads to belly flops.
• Elevator access that opens straight into your home: luxury movie magic or just pure convenience?
• Facing bizarre stories with humor proves laughter really is the best coping mechanism.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Trevor Wallace (Guest) · 60 min speaking
• Unknown Host (Host) · 40 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 30:00 – 40:00: Skiims, Ohio State

Notable quotes from "Some Serious Characters.. Ft. Trevor Wallace || Reddit Stories || Two Hot Takes Podcast"

• And doesn't stretch to allow your parts to fit in it. That is not the case with Skiims. Skiims is different. A lot of Skiims fabric is lifechanging. Like the cotton jersey full…

  about Skiims · at 36:19

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

Products & tech

• Skiims — Product · 2 mentions · first at 36:12

Places & events

• Ohio State — Place · 1 mention · first at 38:26

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 I feel like my sweater fits the vibe of uh the background and everything. Your sweater's perfect. Yes, it is a horse sweater. So, as a big horse girl,

0:09 I love it. Boom. I love it. Not your first rodeo. Not my first rodeo. Literally, we we've done this three years ago.

0:16 Mhm. Three and a half. Three and a half. And your show is so much bigger and there's less people now. When I was there, there was like five people. Today, no one. Just you. You cut everyone out.

0:25 I had more people. Yeah. Who the hell did I have there? My dad probably he might have been there. It was there. I think there was two or three other girls and it was shot on an iPhone, but now

0:36 it was shot on an iPhone. Yep. Look how far we've Look at the glow up. Look at this.

0:42 Congratulations. Thanks for having me back. I love the show and congratulations on all your success and what a beautiful set. And if you're listening on audio, picture the warmest environment for the holidays. That's what it is.

0:51 God, Trevor Wallace, just like my little hype man today. Of course, you deserve it.

0:56 Thank you. Now, what have you been up to over the past couple years? I mean, big things. Your I don't know, agent manager person sent me a list. I was like, "Holy smokes, he has been busy."

1:07 I have been busy. I saw like MTV. I saw so much [ __ ] in your list. I was like, "Wow."

1:11 Done a bunch. Um, you know, but at the core, it's just I'm touring a bunch with standup and then um just maintaining YouTube sketches and the stuff that I really love. But done a few other cameos, some cool stuff, some TV, some film stuff. But

1:24 that's cool. At the end of the day, it's uh, you know, my favorite stuff is just doing stuff for YouTube and, you know, stand up and podcasting is like the bread and the butter. That's that's really the most fun, the most liberty, the most freedom.

1:34 It's so fun. Yeah, I love it. I need to go to one of your standup shows. Please do.

1:38 I really want to start taking like improv classes. Improv classes are great. I feel like your brain works so fast. Like I say something and you're just so quick with it. And it's got to be that like standup like smart comedy improv brain.

1:48 We'll see how smart my comedy is. But yeah, I like improv classes because it lets you just trust whatever your body's about to say and just know that like it might not be funny, but it might be funny. But just like whatever your gut says, just like say it.

2:00 Trust what your body's about to say. So you do you even think about it or does it just come out?

2:04 It comes out and then I edit mentally after. I'll say something and then the crowd either laughs or they don't and then I go, "Okay, time to rework it."

2:12 But it is fun. It's just it's like I remember um like growing up in in uh in high school, we'd all go to this rock jump and it was like this like 15 foot like rock jump into a lake and the longer I'd sit there and think about the scarier it got.

2:24 So I kind of equate that to like improv. It's like if you're up there and you just jump, you don't have time to overthink it. So the longer you sit on like what do I say? What do I say? What do I say?

2:31 The more you're going to put weight on it. But if you just like do it. No, that makes that makes a lot of sense.

2:37 Wow. So if you're on a rock right now listening, uh I used to do that too. Be safe.

2:42 Yeah. [snorts] Yeah. Yeah. It like 15 ft and under. Okay. Was probably 6 feet if we're being honest.

2:48 Don't take our advice. [clears throat] Please don't. No. Not at all. Not mine especially.

2:52 Do you remember any stories that like stuck out to you from your last experience on Two Hot Takes?

2:58 I just remember um the elevator straight to the room which was like I've heard about this in like Home Alone movies. I'm like this is a new level of luxury.

3:08 My dad's condo you guys. Um it's it's an interesting building. Yeah. You get in the elevator and it just opens right up into the house.

3:14 And I used to live like two blocks from there. So that was the best uh I think appearance like the most convenient appearance and like one of the my favorites because I was like I put it in my phone and it's like do you want to walk or drive? I'm like what a what a blessing.

3:28 Do you remember the Grinch story? It was a woman that Yes. Yes. She had like a Grinch fetish.

3:32 Yeah. Is she still with us? I I would assume we have an update. Dang it. I really, but I tried to like go into this episode with like such

3:42 I like the bar was set so high. Like how do you beat a lady that wants to get by the Grinch?

3:50 So, I've got some crazy stories. Good, good, good, I would imagine. No. Oh, no. This is like one of the first episodes of 2026.

3:59 Okay. Hope you guys New Year's is going well and you guys have a great resolution.

4:04 Exactly. So, I don't know. just a random assortment of chaos. But the wrench one. Yeah,

4:09 that one just like really I still think about it. I'm like, "God, you guys, you and Michael just lost

4:15 your minds." It was uh I remember reading the comments and they were like, "They were fun guests, a little too broy." But Michael and I together, it's it's it's a lot. Just myself, it's a little more reserved. I

4:27 Let yourself shine. Like don't worry about the comments. Yeah. Let's pull the Grinch stuff again.

4:34 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have one. I haven't fully read it. I It's really I don't know. Just based on the title, we'll see if I do it.

4:40 Oh, lord. Yeah, it's What's the title first? We can work backwards. Oh, it's that bad.

4:46 I caught my boyfriend's stepmom breastfeeding her 8-year-old. So, I think I've seen this video before.

4:52 I'm not sure if we're going to do that one. Yeah, but little teaser before, you know.

4:57 Yeah, that'll be at the end of the episode. So, keep listening for that story. That's how you That's how you hook him right there. Oh, it's it's honestly I genuinely it's

5:05 there was a lot of layers to that. I know. So that's like a SAT question. It's like caught my ex's mom stepmom breastfeeding a

5:13 I know that's a lot of characters. All of these today. A lot of characters. I absolutely love it.

5:19 Okay. Well, without further ado, let me lock in. Let's dive in. Let's do it. This episode of Two Takes is presented by Credit Karma. When it comes to your money, Credit Karma keeps you ahead of the game. You can count on Credit Karma to keep up with your financial needs as they evolve. They'll help you monitor your progress and give personalized recommendations so you can make strides towards your goals and find your way to money. Make sure you're on the right track no matter where you are on your financial journey. Into it, Credit Karma. Karma you can count on. I love tracking my score on Credit Karma. I actually found out that's how I missed a payment. Thanks, Credit Karma.

6:10 Okay, up first coming from our very own two subreddit, 7 hours old titled, "My boyfriend turns my private life into content

6:20 and then calls me sensitive." Okay, maybe I wrote this. Maybe this was me because anything that happens with anybody I've ever dated, uh, there there can be no bad in the relationship because I'm like, this is content.

6:33 Is your girlfriend 28? 27. I, 28 female, and my boyfriend, 30 male, we've been together for a little over 3 years and live in a midsized city. He is the social one with a big friend group, group chats, fantasy league, all of that. I am more private. When we started dating, he would tell funny stories about work or his family, and everyone loved it.

6:58 Lately, I realized more and more of those funny stories are actually about me. It started small, like him telling his friends, "I cry at animal shelter commercials," which I could laugh off,

7:12 but then he told his group chat about a panic attack I had when my card declined at the grocery store last year and how he had to rescue me. M

7:22 he copied a part of my text about feeling like a failure and sent it in that chat as a joke. Last weekend, his best friend got a new girlfriend and we all went out for dinner. I met her for the first time and she said, quote, "Oh, you are the one who hates phone calls and freaks out when unknown numbers call. Nice to finally meet you." That is something I told my boyfriend once in a pretty vulnerable conversation about anxiety. I confronted him in the car and he said I was overreacting, that he is just sharing real life and that everyone shares about their partners. He said if I don't want to be in his stories, I should work on myself so there is nothing embarrassing to talk about. I feel so exposed and honestly kind of betrayed, but he acts like this is normal and I'm trying to control him.

8:13 Is this a weird boundaries issue that I need to work through or a deal breaker level disrespect?

8:20 My first thought is it was okay up until he said this is something you need to work on. You need to uh better yourself.

8:27 Yeah. Better yourself so there's nothing embarrassing to talk about. He's pretty much saying like, "Well, don't be such an embarrassing or clutchful person so you're not giving me material." Instead of a and and let's be honest, he's 30. He's he's pushing 40. He's close to probably dying at this age. So, I think that the responsible, loving boyfriend would say something like, "I'm so sorry. I didn't realize that this was hurting you. I I guess I was doing it for a joke, but uh I I see how it's not perceived as that way." But instead, he's like, "Well, maybe don't be such an idiot." Samantha, maybe if you were such a Whoa. Oh my god, this is incredible. Thank you so much. Are you an East Coast person?

9:09 No. Really? Where you from? You're from out here right? Minnesota. Ow. Is Minnesota not east? Midwest.

9:18 Minnesota. Midwest. Yeah. East coast. No. Is is big in Minnesota? No. But it was the fastest on.

9:27 That was incredibly fast. Not sponsored. You can though. It could be. It could be.

9:32 It could be. Hopefully he drinks some and wakes up and realizes he's being not a good boyfriend.

9:37 Okay. Somebody tag in the comments. Okay. free promo. No, I completely agree. I mean, it's You said something. He's like 30 pushing 40, might as well be dead. He should be dead to you.

9:50 Yeah, like that's a very childish response. Um, if you were like 22, not saying it's okay, but that would feel more the norm to be like, well, maybe stop being such an idiot.

10:00 But at 30, you should have enough comprehension to be like, I didn't realize this was uh hurting you in this regard.

10:08 Everyone slips up. Everyone overshares. Everyone vents about their partner to their friends.

10:13 But when it's constantly sharing vulnerable information like and then you found out you're upset. You told him you're upset and instead he's flipping it around on you and kind of gaslighting you.

10:24 This is a you problem. This is not me. Also true. I I I just feel like this sets it up for almost like um like some animosity and like a rivalry almost where it's like he wants her or he's setting it up to be like, "Well, you know, I do dumb stuff. You can talk about that. Like it's not they're not solving the issue. He's only saying like, "Well, why don't you do that?" It feels like

10:44 I know. I think we've all been around this type of couple though, and a certain level of it is funny, but then it just gets like, "Are we in couples therapy right now?"

10:55 Oh my god. And then you're like, "Can these appetizers come any quicker? This is awkward."

11:00 It's like you just sit there and your whole time you're like, "How are they still together? Please break up. Please break up." Some of them are lightly like the lighter stuff is funny,

11:09 but there is moments where you're just like they they almost get into an argument in front of you cuz she's like, "No, that's not how it started." Well, no, that's how it ended. And this and then you're just sitting there. You're like, "Happy holidays."

11:20 Yeah. Like I want to leave now. Yeah. So, [sighs] what's your what's your overall opinion on it?

11:27 I think break up. Yeah. Break up. How long have they been together? Did they say

11:32 a little over three years? M that's interesting. Mhm. Cuz 3 years feels like this is your person. It feels like you can't leave. You can

11:42 you Oh, you can you can be in there for 20 years and leave. You hit the U-turn quick. Yeah, true.

11:47 Honestly, might be a little more fun. You know, I had uh um now I'm doing exactly what this guy's talking about. I had not so much, but I had a family friend like one of my best friends growing up. His parents got a divorce after like 45 years together.

12:00 Oo. And honestly, good for them. Yeah. Live those last years of your life. Like they're both like 65ish, like 70. It's like, yeah, why not? You know,

12:09 sandals. Yeah. Go to a naked resort. Go to Naples. Go to go to the villages in Florida and figure it out.

12:15 Yeah. But I just was like, yeah, at any point you can be like you you feel like it's your forever. Um it doesn't have to be.

12:23 No. And like it's really interesting cuz I always ask people that have been married a really long time. I always ask them like what's the secret? And the response I get is really telling.

12:33 Like I've gotten a really cute one where it was like selective hearing where it's like

12:39 good. You know when they're being a little cranky, you just kind of tune it out and like selective hearing. I've gotten one that was selective vision.

12:48 Oh. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Cuz I had to share the example. Sink. Oh, I don't even know. But some of them are like, "Ooh, I don't know if you really even like your partner." It's like, at that point, just break up. Like this guy, I don't even think he likes her.

13:05 He's He's using her as like the butt of the joke. That's not fun. I I would like to know where they're from cuz this like

13:11 midsized city. It's giving Chicago. Okay. Chicago is a good one for that. Yeah. It's not New York.

13:20 I don't know. It's It's not great. It's also not great that none of the friends are telling him like, "Hey, this is funny, but I don't know if you need to be sharing all this." Especially the hates. He's almost talking to them like he's on a date with like he's using like date conversations like, "Oh yeah, my ex used to hate phone calls. She she only likes FaceTimes or something like that." Like like you wouldn't just bring that up to a friend group.

13:42 That's what I'm saying. It's like you're just constantly that I think if there's like a funny Right. That's That's too nitpicky for me. If there's like a funny thing where I was out in Miami recently, I got [ __ ] on by a bird. Everybody's talking about it later. It's funny.

13:57 And that's just like that's just like that's just like a that's life. Somebody's like, "Hey, you're on the phone."

14:04 That's no fault of your own, right? Like the bird you can't control if a bird shits on you.

14:09 They can limit the bread in the Miami area, I guess. But but but to that point, it's like that's a funny experience that we like both went through.

14:16 Yeah. And it's not like it's not like it's a funny story. It's not your card declined at the grocery store when you were trying to buy food.

14:24 Yeah, that seems more like he needs a therapist or he's just venting to someone who will listen.

14:31 I know he's I don't like him. Top I can picture this guy doesn't like him either.

14:37 Good. They quote, "Need to work on yourself so there is nothing embarrassing to talk about." Wow. You can do all the work on yourself you want, but that still won't keep embarrassing moments from happening to you. This is a serious boundaries issue. And if he's not going to take you seriously when you ask him not to discuss them, that's an even bigger issue. Just because you two are partners does not mean he has automatic consent to share personal and vulnerable information about you with whoever he chooses, like his buddy's new girlfriend who you've never met.

15:07 Also, brand new girlfriend. She doesn't need to know that. She doesn't even know his name. Like let them meet face to face. Her first impression now has already been set.

15:16 Well, it's also a bad first impression on the guy, too. It's like, "Oh, you trauma." Not even trauma, but like, "Oh, you meet people and tell other secrets for no reason." Like, I can't trust this guy with anything. No,

15:26 this guy needs to sign multiple NDAs. Yeah. This person goes on to say he needs to get a hobby that he can discuss because blasting your partner's embarrassing business is not a hobby and it's not what partners do.

15:36 Correct. He Yeah. Yeah, he he must not have enough personality on his own to talk about anything else that he's There's probably some good saying about this somewhere on Etsy or something, but it's like those who talk behind your They only talk behind your back because they have nothing else better to talk about. I think I've heard that somewhere.

15:50 Yeah, maybe it's on a B t-shirt or something. Oh, it probably was Bies. I love Bies.

15:56 Bies is funny, but Bies also does fuel like so much misogyny. Like the shirts or like they they sell these like Have you seen like the the art of Bies? I used to have a joke about it, but it's like Bies is almost wholesome. Like the art decor sometimes it is.

16:08 Yeah. Well, the women's bathroom art might be different. Beautiful, but the article is beautiful. Which also like how disrespectful if you're a painter, you're like agents like I got you good placement where they're like on the way to the [ __ ]

16:20 But the buggy's bathroom. Yeah, the buckies bathroom is iconic and so clean. But you know how they have like next to the candles will have like a wooden plaque or something and it's like a little fun saying like they're almost cute and then it just gets real like southern. And it'll be like, "I love my wife." Dot dot dot when she shuts the [ __ ] up at night.

16:38 And it's in like a cursive font. You're like, "Who's buying this?" And you look over and there's a trucker with a slim gym behind his ear. Like, "That's a good That's good."

16:46 Oh man, you're so right. You know what video broke my heart recently? What's that?

16:52 This creator went to Costco and he like stopped guys. Costco guys? I don't know.

16:57 Five big booms? No, I don't think so. Okay. and he was like stopping people that were shopping with their wives. And the wife would like go and grab something off the shelf and he would like sneak in and ask the guy, "How much fun are you having at Costco with your wife?" And all the guys were like, "Zero, -10.

17:15 What? Get a sample." Five. I hate Costco. I hate my wife. I'm like, I love going to Costco with my partner.

17:25 Yeah. Like what? What's wrong with you? Costco? I mean, yeah. Like literally get a sample and sit in a recliner. They have massage shades in the middle of the store and you choose to be miserable. I will say if you go on a Saturday morning, that parking lot does stress people out a little bit.

17:38 What one are you going to? Uh I usually go to the one in uh in Woodland Hills, but that one I I need to go to a new one because the that one's parking lot is shared with like nine like a Home Depot and like a plan like a Planet Fitness. It's there's a conglomerate of stuff. It needs its own space.

17:53 Yeah, I go to the Burbank one. Ooh, good. Bad. Real good. You go to the IKEA and Burbank. Love it.

17:58 That is It's one of the best IKEAs in North America. It's You can get your steps into there.

18:02 It's good. I don't even work out anymore. I just hit my Apple Watch on zero and just go find the meatballs.

18:07 I literally have you tried the plant balls. Mm- Yeah. And that one's great. You just go up the escalator. You're right there. And the food, you don't even have to go through the store. You're just right up in the cafeteria

18:15 and they got deals every day of the week. It's always Black Friday at IKEA. Literally like meatballs are half off basically three days out of the week.

18:22 Really? Yeah. And the plant balls. And so what is the plant ball? It's just a tofu cylinder. No, I think it's like lentils and stuff. I don't even know. They say the ingredients, but it's They taste better than the meat.

18:32 Really? So good. You can't even tell. It looks like meat, tastes like meat, better than the meat.

18:37 Somebody write in say if they've ever gone on a date to IKEA for the meatballs.

18:42 Yeah, a date. Yeah. Like early stages of a relationship or like All right, let's let's go

18:49 maybe a year in. Okay. Okay. Year in's good. You trust, you know. Yeah. I'm saying like first date, you meet on hinge. like, "Hey, yeah, let's go out Saturday at 8." And he's like, "All right, I'll pick you up."

19:00 Honestly, would be a good test. It would be a good test. It's funny because there's a lot of things to talk about. It's a lot of riff, a lot of banter,

19:07 and you can kind of see like where uh someone's like design kind of mind goes to.

19:12 It is a fun place to go. Honestly, I think that should be a bigger first date strategy. You meet there. They don't know where you live. If you want, you could buy something, build it together, see how you communicate. You can see how he does in in high pressure stress.

19:26 Yeah. See parking. Yep. This might be a good idea. I kind of like this. I'm behind this.

19:30 I like in a date with activities. I like the casual dinner as well, but I also like just like something that gives room to riff. And I think just seeing where people's mind goes. If there's 12 lamps in front of you. What do you like? What do you like? I like this one because this one is more of like an amber warm tone. Then I just feel like there there's a lot to go based off.

19:47 I'm with you. Anyone with cool white in their homes, jail? What are you doing? What are you doing?

19:53 What are you working corporate? At home? I would be set off constantly. Yeah, I literally November 1st, I have a tree up in my house that's only light on now.

20:03 Really? Just nice soft glow, happy zen. You know what's not zen though? This next one.

20:11 Good, good, good. This is coming from True Off My Chest titled, "My girlfriend found out that I lied about me and my friends playing fantasy football." And I know I screwed up big time. I know it was wrong to lie to my girlfriend, and I probably should have just told her the truth. I lied because I didn't want to hurt her or upset her, but I realize it was still a lie. I've been playing fantasy football with some friends for years. We're all big sports fans, but football is the biggest.

20:42 Last season, one of the guys dropped out of our fantasy league because he said it was taking up too much time and he was afraid it was pushing him into a gambling problem.

20:51 Very responsible guy. Self-aware. Yeah. Jeez. We needed another player and my girlfriend watches football, so we asked her to play. I know I'm going to catch heat for saying this, but it wasn't as fun playing with her as I thought it would be. M

21:06 I don't know if it was beginner's luck or what, but she pretty much destroyed the rest of us all season. It wasn't fun losing to her. So, this season, we decided to tell her we weren't playing this year. I didn't want to at first, but the other guys insisted. We invited the new brother-in-law of one of the guys to play instead. M

21:29 I just told her everyone was too busy to play this year and she didn't question it. On Thursday night, we slipped up and she found out we are all still playing. She had to go to work, but she was pissed off. She's been frosty since she got home Friday morning. Next weekend, we are supposed to go to an outofstate wedding. Her family isn't from Chicago, but now she said she wants to go by herself. I tried to explain, but it just made her mad. It's nothing personal. No one hates her or anything. I know I'm going to catch heat in the comments.

22:05 Every time I try to explain it, it makes it worse. I screwed up and there's no way around it, but she's so upset and I don't know what to do to make it better. I know I [ __ ] up.

22:16 Yeah, a lot to unpack here. This is like worse than finding out that you're not a part of a group chat.

22:21 This is like the final level boss of that. I think once you're in a fantasy league like that's until death do his part. Like until you pull a plug on yourself or you leave like you're kind of like grandfathered in.

22:33 That's what I would think. Like people every year they're like are you playing this year? I'm like I don't know. And then I play and I do like it. I just don't like losing,

22:41 right? Which is kind of him. Well, my question to this guy is if he wouldn't have lost to her,

22:47 would he have still tried to do it without her? Cuz is he like a sore loser? Yeah. Okay. So, he's a sore loser.

22:54 All of them are. Yeah. I don't like losing to a girl. Beginner's look. Yeah. And I'm just curious like how much did it affect the relationship where he felt like I shouldn't tell her. She's going to know. Do you know how hard it is to I don't even play fantasy, but like all my friends do. They're watching a game. They're screaming. They're like, "We need Puka Nua. We need two yards, right?" They're like their stats are so specific that it's like you would know. You're literally I feel like watching games you wouldn't and then sitting on your phone.

23:22 Why are you watching the Browns? Like oh hurts. Are you kidding me? Like four picks, five picks. Like I think he got like.4.

23:31 That's like harder. Yeah. Like it was really bad last night. That's like literally harder to hide that you're in a fantasy league than like having an affair.

23:39 I think so. Like an affair you just change your name to like Bob from Costco. Then you know, but like the fantasy there's so many notifications. There's all there's always a group chat about the fantasy like talking [ __ ] on each other.

23:51 That's that's Yeah, he slipped up on that. Yeah. What he should have done, which is worse

23:57 but not good. Okay. But what this specific guy should have done, Yeah. of course, babe, you should play. Let me help you recruit. Let me help you draft

24:05 and sabotage them. Sabotage, which I I I up front I said it's worse. It is worse. But if you wanted to not be such a loser, but I also think it there is a lot of beginner's luck to fantasy. Like I the one time I played, I just was like, "Yeah, you have a cool name. I like that team. Cool colors." And then I I think I placed like second or third. So like

24:27 look at that. Yeah. I feel like the less you care, the better you do. Correct. It's weird.

24:32 It's kind of like that in most things in life, too. I did a lot of talking. I'm sorry. Where where where do you fall on with this?

24:37 No, you're here to talk. Right. Don't apologize for talking, but this is I don't want to I don't want to quiet the female voice like this guy did.

24:45 You're doing great, sweetie. No, I I talk too much usually, so this is refreshing.

24:50 What would you if this was if you were in this situation in your heart and you find out?

24:54 I don't know if this is breakup worthy. I think it does speak to a larger issue though, like you're lying to me.

25:01 Yeah. And it's like, yeah, okay, it's fantasy football, but like overall it's a big deal. And you went

25:05 about fantasy football. It's almost about the lying. It is. It's about the line. and you don't respect me because you were willing to lie to me and kick me out. And it's like he has this line here where it's like it was most of the other guys. You still didn't stand up for your girlfriend and include her after she had already been grandfathered in. So it's weird.

25:26 I had this boyfriend in high school and he like cheated on me and his excuse like I was like why like why did you do that? He goes, "Well, my buddies didn't like that I had a girlfriend and so they made me cheat." And I'm like, "You're so [ __ ]

25:41 They made you cheat." Yeah, they made you put your dick in someone else. No. No.

25:47 They put handcuffs on me and gave me a Viagra and threw me in a closet with her.

25:51 Like, what? No, that was you because you were insecure. Personal blame. I know. And that's kind of him. He's just like, "It was my buddies." So, I don't know. I think like you really got to make it right. And like honestly I don't know what would make it better. Like it is it is painful but is it breakup worthy?

26:13 Can you redeem that back or is that trust like really broken? I think you can redeem it back. It's just not like it's just not fun to know that there's people having fun without you when you should have been a part of that. I literally think it's a whole finding out you're not in a group chat.

26:27 It's so painful. It's just so painful. And then he's going to try and kind of do like a pity thing. like, "Well, do you want to help me coach my team or or next year we I'll we'll name my team after you? You can play on at my team." It's like that that bridge has been crossed. It's done.

26:42 Yeah. No. And it's like, would she even want to go back into a league next year and have her own team? Like

26:47 she should find a different different league to be in. I know. And I think that's like what she should do. It's like branch out. Like if she does like fantasy, go play with some other girls or other friends, other people. But it really sucks when you like try to insert yourself and like have fun and like find out you're not in a group chat, but you ask to join or it's like you find out all of your friends are going to brunch and you're like, "Hey, can I come?" And they're like, "Actually, no. The reservation's already been made." Like that hurts. And

27:19 the hard part is it sounds like she wasn't even like not asked, but like they made up the elaborate plan to be like we'll just say we're not doing it this year. Cuz now not only does he have to keep the secret, but everybody else in the fantasy group also has to keep a secret. If they go out to like lunch or dinner, he has to text a different group chat and be like nobody talk about football. And they're sitting there like, "Man, weather's crazy."

27:41 I know. I mean, you could have just said, "Hey, that guy wanted to come back." Like we're still doing it, but that guy wanted his spot back. Yeah.

27:48 Still lying, but you're not lying. It's a smaller lie, but now it's like he's literally like creating like a different like life for this lie.

27:57 Not great. Really tricky situation. Um I feel like he did write in in hopes that his girlfriend is also listening to the show.

28:03 You think so? He said like multiple times and he's like, "I [ __ ] up. I'm so sorry. I'm [ __ ] up. I know I'm going to catch heat. I [ __ ] up.

28:10 Baby, I love you. Happy anniversary." We do have some comments from OP. Oo, please. So someone goes, "You definitely messed up." This won't even be about excluding her from something, but how you were okay lying to her. The key to a relationship is communication. My only suggestion for your current situation would be to man up, take full responsibility, and apologize. Then sit down and have an honest conversation with her about why you did what you did and what you plan to do to make sure communication is honest going forward.

28:38 If you're lucky and work for it, you'll be able to build up trust again. Yeah, I feel like that's a very solid answer. Kind of

28:45 solid. Yeah, OP responds. Yeah, I know you are right. I make no excuses. I realize I screwed up. Every time I try to explain, I make it worse. I did apologize, but she doesn't want to hear it right now. I understand why she's mad, and I don't want to make any excuses for lying or hiding it. I should have stuck to my guns when the other guys insisted.

29:04 Yeah, I don't think a woman wants to hear a man explaining why she's not a part of it. She knows why. There's no point in being like,

29:12 cuz you're pathetic, sore losers. Yeah. You don't want a girl doing better than you.

29:16 That for sure. I also feel like maybe he couldn't have been maybe as cuz like I think I'm not in any fantasy groups, but from my friends who are in fantasy football groups, like the group chat is like 90% of it like how they're texting and just talking [ __ ] So he maybe felt some sort of way that like

29:32 he couldn't talk as like reckless or something like Okay. Okay. So maybe he was like getting like sidebullied by the other guys. I don't really know. I I I would have I would need to see some receipts here. But regardless, he uh didn't do the right thing. It I mean, just like she's going to know. It's so hard to hide that.

29:53 We do have an update. Oh, a full official update. Do they break up? So, the update is coming two months later. Update just came a couple days ago, actually. Like 3 days ago. Yeah.

30:05 So, update is coming two months later. So, it's over. I know I screwed up and the writing was on the wall. The worst part is I have no excuses. I know how badly I [ __ ] this up. I'm not even looking for sympathy here. When my girlfriend got back from the wedding, she asked me why I lied to her. I didn't have an answer for her. All of my explanations just made it worse. And I didn't really explain anything. I tried to apologize, but she didn't want to hear it. It was the worst week of my life. It was almost like she was freezing me out. At one point, she asked me if we ever talked about her in the group chat for our fantasy league.

30:44 You were on it. I didn't even have to answer. She just said, "It's not nice, right?" And I think that was the turning point. I never want to see her cry. And the worst part is knowing I did this because I was stupid and didn't stand up to my friends. She said she doesn't think we are compatible and shouldn't date anymore. She didn't want to accept my apologies and I understand and I won't bother her now. She went to stay with her family for another week and now I've heard she came back because of her job pharmacist.

31:15 Oh, you really blew it. You blew it and now she's staying with friends, but I will leave her alone. I'm looking for another place to live because our lease is up at the end of the month. She left 2 weeks ago and it feels empty. And the worst part is I know it's my fault. I barely care about watching football now. And normally I would be excited about it because my team is in first place.

31:35 Men are so funny. He's trying to get sympathy out of this. Yeah, my team is in first place and I had Aaron Rogers for 47 points.

31:43 Chocolate doesn't even taste good anymore. Yeah, that but that's why I say I feel like she the he thinks that uh his ex ex now I think is a big fan of the show because he's saying he's like I can't even watch football anymore. Wink wink my apartment. I'm leaving it. Like he he's saying so many details.

32:02 I know. And this this last line here, if you take anything away from my post, don't put your friends over the person you love. Learn to stand up to your friends. I learned my lesson after all of this. Like, I hope you see this. And he just keeps like going back to his friends. It's like, I should have stood up to my friends. I shouldn't have let them bully me so hard. And it's like, I get it.

32:26 You should have just lied. That's kind of the whole peer pressure is tough. But then you still were talking [ __ ] in the group chat,

32:32 right? Like, so you lied and then you were talking about her in the group chat. What were you saying?

32:37 Pull it up. What were you saying in that group chat? The receipts. Yeah. I I think I I think uh Yeah. First first thing, she's available now for the draft, fellas. Find her and and keep her in your team. Okay. Um Yeah. I I think it's just about the lying. And I think it's like it's not even about the fantasy football at that point. It's just like what type of guy would I want to date who is a sore loser one and two would rather go with his friends than kind of like keep his partner happy. Yeah. You know I I don't really feel bad for this guy at all.

33:10 It's just funny. I was like I can't even watch football anymore. Oh my god. Grow up. Grow up.

33:17 Imagine but like imagine him like going back to watching football with his friends and like somebody on his fantasy team is playing. He's like turn it off. This is too much for me to the PTSD.

33:27 Literally. Oh my gosh. I'm I'm kind of happy. Like it seems like football might be forever a little tainted for [clears throat]

33:34 which she probably loves. Good. Every time you watch the Vikings, I want you to think of me.

33:39 That's my team. Minnesota. 2 plus two. Yeah. Two plus two equals seven. I'm a Rams guy. So I would love to know what what what his roster was, too.

33:49 I would love to know like I want to see his fantasy football like team just so I can judge him as a person. I mean, he's number one in his league.

33:55 That was also really funny. He's like, I can't even enjoy it. I'm number one right now. Okay, so like if you were in last place, you would be enjoying it.

34:01 I think it's just like that's why guys are so funny. You are a weird breed. Very weird breed. He's like trying to be sympathetic, but he's also like I'm also number one and number one gets like $5,000 and I'm going to go to Cancun with it. But like I can't think about it.

34:14 It is so goofy. Yeah. Would have loved to be a fly in the wall when he was trying to explain why she wasn't in it.

34:20 Yeah. Babe, come on. you know, like your you have your nails always done and like trying to trade and draft on your phone, it's just stressful. I wouldn't want to put that pressure. And you have new gels, right? Is that what they're called?

34:31 Also, it's so funny where he's like, I couldn't come up with a good reason. Your reason was you guys are all insecure and don't like losing to a woman. Like that's that's all it is. Like you could have just said that like my buddies are threatened by you, babe. Like you were too good last year.

34:45 Yeah. I mean that's that's the honest truth. So why couldn't you just come up with that?

34:49 Yeah. He's just an idiot. So is this next one though. Real quick on the last story. I hope the ex I hope she becomes like an NFL like analyst and is like commentating every game. So every time he watches like she's up there with like Tom Brady and he's like I could have had you.

35:04 Also, can we talk about how much Tom Brady has come into his own as an announcer?

35:10 Yeah. Like a lot of people were criticizing him year one. Tom's not that good. He's got to figure it out. Listening to him this year. Love him.

35:17 He's great. I'm now a Tom Brady super fan. Oh, he's awesome. It's also so funny like underneath his name it's like I forget who is Kirk something I think he was commenting about the other day and then under Tom Brady's like seven time Super Bowl champ. You're like what a casual flex. Hey Tom Brady seven time Super Bowl champ by the way. Oh yeah. Let's go ahead and comment on today's game. Seven time champ.

35:35 Seven. Shouldn't you like buy like a state and then like just live there? I think he like has a stake in the Raiders.

35:42 Really? Yeah. He did get in trouble with some crypto stuff. That was Tom Brady. That wasn't good. Tom. Yeah. doesn't he have enough money?

35:50 But they like had to ban him from like the broadcaster meetings because he would go to the Raiders and he's like a very active involved owner. Kind of like some insider trading fears.

35:59 So they say allegedly. Allegedly. Interesting. But great announcer. Really excited. Love him.

36:05 Great announcer. Great. Great time. This next one. This next one. Let's lock in.

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37:02 skims.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you. Select podcast in the survey and be sure to select our show in the dropown menu that follows. Thank you. Story number three for us here. I found out that my 24 female boyfriend, 28 male, of three years, told people that I was a crazy nut job who' poisoned his dog and slit his tires. I'll keep this short. We ran into one of my boyfriend's buddies that he hadn't seen in a bit. They do little chitchat and this guy asks, quote, "So, you finally left your crazy ex, found yourself a nice woman. By the way, did she end up smashing your car? I knew something was up later when we were alone. And so I probed until my boyfriend came clean. Apparently, he wanted to break up with me one year into the relationship. So he started telling people that I was a crazy nut job. He told him that he was too scared to break up with me because I might slit his car

38:02 tires or poison his dog to get back at him. He says he wanted to break up before, but that he got over it and now he loves me. Why did he tell people that? Well, I had an elective surgery breast reduction that he was against.

38:17 I think most men are against breast reductions. Like, if you ain't adding, then I'm subtracting. I'm getting out of here.

38:23 Some people are Buckeyes. Buckeyes. Buckeyes. Ohio State. No, but guys, butt guys.

38:31 Buck. I thought you were saying Buckeyes. I have an accent. I could have swore I heard Buckeyes. I was like, is that a term that I'm not missing?

38:39 Buttocks. I don't discriminate. I'm for either. He thought it was crazy for me to consider such a surgery when everyone he knew was getting them larger. Obviously, no one ever talks about the pain and complications big chest bring on. So, he was oblivious to it. He realized when I was in the hospital though that he loved me regardless of how small my boobs would end up being.

39:03 Which is something you probably said. Oh, for 100%. And he got really worried for my health when I didn't call him at the designated posttop time. This whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth. And I don't know if I can trust him or be with someone who was considering ending it with me over surgery. I don't know if I'm overreacting or not. Please help. I think uh no guy will ever be in support of a breast reduction, which is a sad truth.

39:30 My husband is so for it. He's He's sad. He says, "I I you know, I'm sad." Yeah.

39:36 But he's like, you know, Yeah. I I mean, I'm going to strap some cantalopes on your on you.

39:42 Doesn't want I'm just Yeah. Your generic male is not going to be like, "Hell yeah." They're going to be like, "Are you sure about that? How bad how bad is the back pain? You just want to get some Icy Hot instead?" I I think like that's ridiculous.

39:56 I think the male brain just hears less of something they love and they're like, "Why would you take that away from me?"

40:01 I've literally I'll hold them for you all day if you need. Yeah, I've literally been told like, "God, that's a slap in God's face." I'm like, "What? This is so dramatic."

40:11 Yeah, it is very dramatic, I will say. Um but but if he's going to make it a big deal, I mean, it's also not his body, so he can't really be like, "Well, what do you mean that that gives you back pain?" the but the other things. So So let me recap because I am one of these dumb males as they say. He

40:27 doing great. He Thank you. He was telling his friends like, "I'm gonna leave this girl, which was the same girl." And then when the friend comes up and was like, "Oh, you left your ex not knowing it was the same girl."

40:36 Uhhuh. Okay, good. I'm up to speed. Well, it sounds like he matured a little bit in the relationship. But was the breast reduction year one?

40:45 Um, he matured a little bit, but not fully about that time. Yeah, it seems like it was about that time, a year into the relationship. They've been together 3 years now. She's 24. So, at the time, she would have been 22. He's 28. He would have been 26. Most of his brain was developed at that time.

41:05 Yeah, I I think it just finished loading, honestly. Um, it's not great. I'm sensing a theme today. Men ain't [ __ ] I'll say it in a in an Abberrombie sweater. Men ain't [ __ ] Um, I I would like to hear where you're coming in at with this.

41:22 Um, yeah. I definitely think he's giving some really toxic, weird energy. I find it really strange that he was so cowardly, didn't like you, wasn't in you after a year of a relationship and couldn't have a conversation. Be like, "Hey, I think we should break up." So, he's trying to like slander your name to all these strangers. She'll poison my dog. She'll slash my tires. One, do you think I'm that type of person to do that? If you do, you don't think very highly of me, and that's not a good sign. Or two, you're just a pathetic liar, and how do I trust you going forward?

41:58 Also, poisoning someone's dog. That's like something they're doing like the King Arthur days.

42:02 That's deranged. It's insane. That's serial killer. Insane to think that somebody would even do that.

42:06 I know. So, it's like, where are you getting this from? Where are you getting this from? So, honestly, like this one feels worse than fantasy football. and fantasy football. They broke up over it,

42:17 right? And so this one I'm like, I don't know. And like it's like, oh, I realized I could love you no matter how small your boobs were. Love me for me or go away. What happens if you know we decide to have kids and I put on 30 lb? The average weight gain during pregnancy is like 34 pounds. You're going to love me then?

42:37 He seems fickle. Yeah. Well, the Yeah. Yeah. I think it's just I don't like and I think we all know a guy like this. I don't like when guys kind of like um pawn off their own stress and like they they use their usually their girlfriend as like not the physical punching bag but like a punching bag where they're just almost like there's no point where they need to be like, "Hey, how are things going?" Like, "Dude, they're good." You know, we have our indifferences here and there, but we're working on it. Like that's as deep as you need to get in that instead of be like, "She's crazy. I don't know if I like her. She'll poison my dog and slash my tires." It's like there's issues that need to be at stake. You don't need to bring that to people. I just have so many people that I like have heard talk about that. It feels very college where it's very like they almost feel the need to like say that to like be cool or

43:24 something, but it's really not. No, it sounds like sad a little bit. It really does. There's there's one comment that OP does respond to. So someone says this and they quote OP. He realized when I was in the hospital though that he loved me regardless of how small my boobs would end up being. And they end quote, "Oh, how generous of him." So here we have a guy who got so pissed at you for a breast reduction that he slandered you to all of his friends. Then he felt just guilty enough about it to magnanimously change his mind about dumping you, but never notified his friends that he'd lied.

44:01 What a prize. Oh, yeah. I think I'm missing the big obvious stuff here. I mean, it's going over my head today, too. Don't You're You're good. OP, I'd pass hard on this relationship. The petty in me says to dump him and immediately assure him, quote, "Don't worry. Your tires will remain unslashed. They were nothing but supportive of my surgery. No beef with them.

44:24 Yeah. And OP responds, "Here's the thing, though. He actually thought I was that crazy at the time. He was really worried that I'd do something crazy. He reasoned that I was crazy enough to get surgery, crazy enough to not be disturbed and actually be interested in blood and internal organs, etc. crazy enough to enjoy murder mystery horror movies and actually laugh rather than be scared. So, he didn't know what I was capable of. Apparently, the more I put it in perspective and I picture this guy in the hospital being like, "I'll love you. No matter if you go from a double D to a D, I will I will be here for you." what guys find to be like sentimental is really not like he probably was like, "Oh, just say it.

45:15 Travis, go in there and tell her you'll love her. Okay, you can stitch her bras one cup size smaller."

45:21 And and maybe she can start doing squats and build that ass I've always wanted. Like he had to work himself through that and be like, "This is my apology." Yeah.

45:29 This is me white flag. Like I'll still love you if you go a smaller cup size. I know

45:35 that shouldn't have even been in the question. That should just be like a wait, you were worried about that? Guys that talk poorly about the relationships kind of just reflect on their own. I anytime somebody talks poorly about the someone else, I go like, well, I would want to hear their side cuz now I'm just only judging you.

45:50 I know. [clears throat] I just want I wanted to see that guy's face when his friend came up and was like, "You ditched that crazy bitch." And he's like, [clears throat]

45:59 "How do you not recognize her?" Yeah. Does he never post her? guys post. I was looking at my friend's Instagram last night and he posted in 2015 and 2020. I was like, "What were you doing those five years? Were you in prison?

46:09 Where you been? Where you been?" Guys like don't post. That is weird, you know? So, like that's also on him for not letting everyone know like, "Hey, this is my girlfriend. This is my life."

46:19 Yeah. I need to interview a friend. Yeah. Yeah. It's suspicious. I can picture this type of guy, though.

46:23 Yeah. Well, we don't have an update. That's all we got. That one comment from OP. I feel like they're both in the same fantasy football group though as the last guy.

46:32 I could see it. Both those guys. Yeah. This post was 9 years old though, so like very vintage. Nine years old. So, we're definitely not getting an update now.

46:41 Dang. Mhm. Yeah. And we'll never find out what cup size she went to. Went to the archives for you thanks to Direct Caterpillar 77. One of our faves.

46:50 Hey. Mhm. Shout out to Direct Caterpillar 77. Do you play the Sims? I do. I did as a lot as a child. Oh, you're going to be perfect for this next one.

46:58 Perfect. Perfect. Okay, this next one is coming from a t, another am I the [ __ ] type subreddit,

47:06 and it's [clears throat] titled, "Am I the [ __ ] for deleting my girlfriend's Sims save files?"

47:12 Yes. Let's just start by saying that I, 24, male, love my girlfriend Aaliyah, 20 female, very much. She's a super hardworking girl and she spends a lot of her time on classes trying to get the highest grades possible for applying to nursing school in the near future. When she's not doing that, she's doing chores or cutting down on her ever growing to-do list. And when she's not doing that, she's spending 2 hours a day playing the Sims.

47:39 It's fine. This is where the problem comes in. [clears throat] After all of the stuff she does, Aaliyah doesn't have as much time to spend with me as she could. She's a perfectionist, too. So, when she's doing the more serious stuff like school, she puts in more effort than necessary, which is time consuming. It really got to me that even knowing this, she'll spend so much time on the Sims. It's something frivolous she's doing when we already only get so little time together. She's also an adult, so essentially playing digital dolls almost every day is kind of something she ought to grow out of.

48:15 Find out about Madden. Literally, I decided to step in and have her cut back on this. I obviously didn't delete the whole game, but I figured deleting the little save files she was working on would deter her from spending so much time on it.

48:32 This guy's an idiot. That decision backfired tremendously. When she logged onto her game, she thought there was some glitch going on and kept restarting it until I explained to her that I had removed the saves. She absolutely flipped out on me, saying she'd been playing in that save file since like 2017, and I had ruined years of game progress. Sims isn't even a gold game. I told her she was overreacting because she still has the game.

49:04 That's a good one to go to. And she could just remake the same little characters if it mattered so much, but it doesn't need to. and maybe now she can focus on more adult interests like loved ones. Basically, she left immediately saying she was so stupid to leave her gaming laptop at my place and now she won't answer my calls. I know that this is a total overreaction, but I started to feel a little bad once I realized it may not be as easy to redo her characters as I initially thought. So, am I the [ __ ] for deleting my girlfriend's Sims saves?

49:39 Yes. Yeah. I mean like so many like what is what does he mean he wants her to do like more adult stuff? Does she want her like playing like Turboax or something? Like here let's play let's play chess in the park. Deleting something is only going to make her want to play that more cuz she's going to want to try and get back to where she was which she you're like literally adding work to her plate. it. Oh, [sighs] it's it's so demoralizing and just like, oh, I can't even explain the pain of like you've already spent all this time and energy and effort to do something and then if you have a glitch that accidentally erases it and you have to do it over again, it like even if it's a for fun activity, it totally takes the joy out of it again cuz you're like, I was already here.

50:18 Yeah. I already I already did all this and you want to get back to where you were.

50:21 As a man who plays and listen, I'm a delusional man. I play college football NCAA on Xbox. Okay. Okay. And I've built up a character. Last name Wallace, 6'3, jacked unit. I mean, he's like a 250lb quarterback. Just a unit, right?

50:34 Okay. Yeah. Fourth fourth season, fourth year, he's probably going to go to the NFL, let's be honest.

50:39 And I've spent days playing that. And I don't really play a lot of video games. Just throughout like the last year or two, I've spent just like days.

50:46 Yeah. And if somebody deleted that, like I wouldn't like I I would be sad because all that time spent build it's like building a sand castle at the beach all day and some [ __ ] just comes up and kicks it. You're like, "Well, I'm gonna I'm either sad and I'm not going to rebuild it, or I'm going to rebuild it and spend even more time doing it."

51:01 Like, why [ __ ] in someone's Cheerios? You could have just said, "Hey, I'd really love some more quality time together without deleting her shit."

51:08 You You guys should play Sims together. Get in there. Yeah. Learn what she likes and then help adapt to that.

51:14 Get into it. Come on. Do you know what those Sims characters do? They get freaky if you click the right buttons.

51:20 That's so crazy to me. Like that's where my head went immediately when you talk about the Sims because I only played it when I was young. When I was I don't even know how old I was. Probably in like sixth grade.

51:30 Okay. And I there was like one family computer and I would just be like nobody's home

51:35 with the dialup. Dialup. Oh yeah. And I mean like dude it'd be so funny. I'd move these two characters into their house. There'd be no roof. There'd be no kitchen. There'd be one room with like a heart-shaped bed and a shower. And I'd be like do it.

51:48 Oh my god. Go to the shower. Do it. Dirty. They wouldn't even have bath towels.

51:52 Oh my god. But I mean I was in like sixth grade and like I didn't even know that you it was like a loophole. I was like you can do this.

51:58 Yeah. Like had just had the sex ad talk and you're like I was making my own birds and the bees. So circling back as a man who has built up this catalog in a video game.

52:08 It's not your whole life and it's I doubt it's taking up as much time or also to this guy be more interesting. Uh but I I think that like if the Sim the Sims don't even speak English and they're beating you. They're sitting there going boop boop. [screaming]

52:21 To your point, I would ask for more quality time. Yeah. But also, there's in free time, I either like to be dead alone or doing something with my girlfriend, but it's like there is times where you just like I'm not working. I'm not doing this and I just I want to zone out and play video games.

52:38 Yeah. The same way you would watch a TV show or whatever, but I think you just didn't communicate. Like deleting files.

52:45 Idiot. Absolute idiot. Yeah. Top comment. Not only are you the [ __ ] that's some seriously controlling red flag behavior and unacceptable. What does it matter if she plays a game for a couple of hours a day, people aren't allowed leisure time. Who are you to control what they choose in their recreation time? If you want to spend more time with her, be an adult and tell her. And then Aaliyah finds the post.

53:11 Oh, she finds it. Really? This is good. I like this. She goes, "Did you really think I wouldn't find this post? Did you really think I wouldn't see how you've been talking about me?" I shudder to think what you've said in what you deleted. Why don't you tell them the real story about how you not only deleted the save files, but also hammered the backup thumb drive so hard there's a dent on your countertop. now while I cried for you to stop.

53:44 This is like a digital Jerry Springer episode. Why didn't you tell them about how you tag along to my SI group after bio because you don't want me to be out of your sight? Why don't you tell them about how my best friend who's so-called in love with me literally lives in another state and only visits once or twice a year? Why don't you tell them about how when my mother was sick a few months ago, you were blowing up my line all day, every day for attention, knowing that I was her primary caregiver 24/7? Why are you telling them you work full-time or that you manage a grocery store when you part-time manage the fast food place inside of it? I want you to [ __ ] take this to heart when I say this, but I have been genuinely so much worse off for knowing you. You've destroyed my self-esteem with your constant criticisms of what I enjoy.

54:36 You've controlled me in every way for as long as I've known you. You don't understand boundaries or when no means no. Your racist [ __ ] family treats me like dog [ __ ] And your friends are equally racist punk [ __ ] [ __ ] You ruined something I've spent years of my life growing up with. And I could never bring myself to forgive you for that. No matter how much love I've poured into you, I hate you for what you did to me and for what you've been doing. I mean that. I'm gonna make this so so crystal clear since you didn't understand it the first time. All caps. We are through. Go [ __ ] yourself.

55:19 I mean, that was a banger. And I love the receipts on that because first of all, the second she said the fast food in the in the grocery store, I go, "Okay, he's working at a McDonald's inside of a Walmart." And that that guy is probably uh MC jealous of her fun that she's having on the Mick Sims.

55:37 Yeah, I He's a psychopath. Yes, he's a psychopath. Hammering a thumb drive. I don't even think that's where the g is that where the game is.

55:44 I mean, you could probably plug that into your computer while you're playing and save both places. Okay, that makes sense.

55:51 But like a backup in case your computer got corrupted. This guy just seems like he just needs the attention.

55:56 Yeah, he's a controlling psychopath. Your mom is sick and you're taking care of her and he just won't stop calling you. Won't stop calling you, checking in on you. He has to walk to SI group. I don't know what SI group is.

56:09 Sports Illustrated. That's what I thought actually though. But that's I don't know after bio. So it sounds like a college class

56:16 to my SI group. I think if anybody writes into this forum and it's called am I the [ __ ] It's kind of like smelt the delta thing. If you're asking you're like [snorts]

56:24 I mean not all the time but this guy it feels like is looking for the validation even if one person in the comments is like yeah bro [ __ ] the Sims you got this. He's like see

56:35 he needed like some when people are in the wrong they they need one person to tell them they're not to feel validated. And I think and that's kind of what's going on here.

56:44 Something is weird. I mean, I just I feel like some people though are so delusional and if you're this level of like psychopath, I just don't even think you know you're like just so like off your rocker. Like I genuinely think he thinks he's the victim in all of this still.

56:59 Yeah. Like oh I have a true crime podcast now too and I just had like this case and it's it's like the worst case I've ever come across but this guy like laughed at his victims being called victims. He's like victims and it's just like some people are just so deranged.

57:19 Yeah. That's what he's giving. Like he's crazy. It's I mean it's it's like the Sims was the only thing he could blame it on because she's doing uh school work and then also work and he's like with any free time you should be spending with me. Why are you playing the Sims?

57:38 I know but it's not. It It seems like every ounce of attention needs to be pointed at him.

57:43 I know. Well, and it's crazy, too. Like, I just make a Big Mac and shut up, sir.

57:47 Shut up. Seriously, shut up. Like, he's 24, she's 20. Their age gap isn't super crazy. Like, usually you'll see this controlling dynamic from someone who's like 28 and the girlfriend's 20 cuz they go for younger girls that they can then control. M

58:04 and like even though he's only 24, he's kind of following that pattern of like serious control, manipulation, insecure, crazy jealousy. Like it's concerning for him. Like he really needs to work on himself. A

58:16 college student playing Sims is nothing out of the ordinary. No, he's acting like she was like 45 and would like get back from like Meil Lynch and be like, "Time to fire up the Sims." It's just that's her out. That's her release. It's There's two different types of release I think in free time. It's either being with people or not. And that's her angled nut.

58:35 We do get one more update from Aaliyah. Hi there, Aaliyah here from the infamous post about my Sims 4 saves getting deleted. I just want to put a little placeholder update on my page for anyone who's read the last post. Please note that I've turned off the ability to search my username inapp because although I did want people to hear the whole story at first, the social media response has been a bit overwhelming. I'm just a regular person and I didn't know this would get publicized to this extent. So, please be kind. All that said, update missing info here. Our ages. For one, there was some confusion about when my ex and I got together. We knew each other all of our lives since our families are close, but we started dating when I was 12 and he was 16.

59:17 Uh-uh. Icky. Nope. We actually have a 5-year age gap. I'm newly 20 and he turns 25 this year. Hope it clears that up.

59:28 It made things worse. It It's so much worse cuz 12 and 16 he can drive a car and you're maybe you have your period. What?

59:38 You don't even know long division yet. How does that work when he hits 18 and she's 13? Is that math right?

59:45 Yeah, that wouldn't work in some states. Uh hopefully all of them cuz then he's 19 she's

59:52 He's disgusting. He's a controlling man and sounds like he always has been. He was the guy doing burnouts in the high school parking lot when he was like 19. But yeah, it's a Camaro.

1:00:06 Not great. I mean, the good part for her is that she's 20 and it's like, believe this man, you have so much more life ahead of you.

1:00:12 I know. Unfortunately, so many people go through like that shitty relationship and they're like 18 to like 22, which sucks so bad, but then you go like, "Okay, this is what I don't want in life. This is what I don't want."

1:00:22 Yeah. You're so much better for it. It's unfortunate, but you learn a lot from it.

1:00:25 I know. You really do. She does go on to add, "Not only did he delete the saves and clear the recycling bin, he pulled out my backup drive and smashed it with a hammer once he realized that

1:00:35 like the Epson files were on there. He lied about not knowing it was such a detailed game because I talked to him about it a ton of times before. This was not a matter of spending time together. We regularly spend hours of every day with each other. He would insist to come along to any class or class related activity that he wouldn't get kicked out of, like bio study group.

1:00:52 He just needs free education. It sounds like I gave him as much attention as I possibly could, but it was never ever enough.

1:01:00 Summer is in just 3 weeks, so we would have had time then. He was just being awful to me. He is a generally jealous, overprotective, condescending person. He pressured me into sex activities throughout our relationship, and his friends and family were all incredibly racist to me. It's past time for him to be gone from my life, and I'm still coming to terms with all the ways he has wrecked me. hasn't wrecked you, girl. Hasn't wrecked you.

1:01:24 So much life to live. You're 20, prime of your life, and now you've got this experience and like you take it and you move on and you learn. Clearing up some other questions, though, she goes on to add, "My seven-year save existed across three laptops over time. So, those who were skeptical of it being able to survive on one for so long were right. I did have a password on my gaming laptop. He memorized it to get in.

1:01:45 Jesus." He mentioned that I was dumb for leaving my laptop at his place. I said that he's done something similar before when I left my phone. He went through it, promised never to again, only for me to find out months later that he'd been logged into my Instagram account and was reading my messages daily. Some people wondered why I have no mention of him on my page. That's because I was always on edge of him going through my phone. So, I deleted anything about him that I'd post. I tried to cover my tracks to avoid his anger. And then, placeholder update. I was too anxious to retrieve the lost save files myself, so I'm going to go to a local tech shop in a few days to see what the professionals can do, and the laptop will remain off until then. I've looked into a restraining order recently, and ultimately, it looks like I won't be able to do much as of now, but collect evidence and get cameras installed around my home. I

1:02:31 don't go out in public anymore alone, and I'm never without a trusted person. I appreciate all the people who have left me kind messages, sent me well wishes. I ask that no one offer me money. I won't accept it. Lastly, this is my lived experience, not just internet drama. So, please be considerate. One last update we have, my saves are restored.

1:02:54 God willing. Won't he do it? I'm typing this on my way to class. But yes, for anyone still wondering, I got everything back.

1:03:03 That's so great. That's awesome for her and also so funny for the guy cuz he he like smashed hard drives. He memorized a gaming password. This guy's working like he's literally trying to like dox the Epstein files. Like this guy's really going for it. This guy is a failed CIA agent in the making.

1:03:19 I'm just like, you [ __ ] loser. You're such a loser through and through. Such lengths. I'm so glad she got all the files back.

1:03:28 Oh, so glad she got all the files back. She's out. She's moving on. She's going to get through school, become a nurse. I mean, this is posted May 2nd, 2024,

1:03:39 you know, almost going to be 2 years soon. Give us an update, girl. Where you at?

1:03:44 That would be great. Where's he at? And what prison is it? So we can write into him.

1:03:48 Oh, yeah. You know, I bet he's wishing he had a Sims game to play up in there. Little [ __ ]

1:03:54 Get a friend, my guy. Get a friend. Get a friend. She's playing the Sims. Go on a walk. Read a book.

1:04:01 Go to therapy. Go to therapy. Don't make your issues everyone else's problem. Yeah,

1:04:07 especially your girlfriend that you groomed, you [ __ ] weirdo. He's only looking outward, not inward. The problem's here.

1:04:14 Yeah, therapy. Therapy is good. I mean, dude, once you're smashing thumb like hard drives and all that. At what point do you get like, "Oh, maybe I need to work on this."

1:04:24 I don't know. Even people that go to prison don't think they have problems. Kind of a ball.

1:04:29 Just saying. Yeah, that's uh I'm really glad she got the Sims bag. Good for her.

1:04:33 Good for her. Moving on to this next one. Okay, this next one coming from a subreddit r/nanny.

1:04:42 Okay, so it's a subreddit for support stories, ideas, techniques, answers about the interview process, wage expectations, contracts, all things about being a nanny. Okay. So, this is titled, "Am I overreacting about my nanny family having sex during the day?"

1:05:02 Okay. Yeah. Let We should have started the episode here. Really? No, no, no. Um, but um, are you overreacting? I mean, there's a lot more to be written, but yeah, I I got my thoughts.

1:05:13 Okay. Yep. Hi, everyone. I'm a full-time nanny for a stay-at-home mom with an eight-month old baby.

1:05:19 Stay at home mom. All right, we'll move on. [gasps] The baby is honestly perfect. So sweet and happy. Naps great. I've been with the family for about 7 months now. The mom and dad are both amazing employers. They're super nice to me. The mom gets me Starbucks and acai bowls. Even makes me lunch sometimes. I make $32 an hour with great benefits in my medium cost of living area. So overall, this is a dream job. Here's

1:05:48 Sounds like a cream job. I'll let you finish. Here's my only issue. I'm pretty sure the parents are having sex during the dad's lunch break. Maybe every day or every other day.

1:06:02 The munch break. They go to their room and I never see anything inappropriate, but sometimes I hear what I think might be the bed moving. It's not loud or anything, just enough to make me realize what's going on. Afterwards, her hair is messy, clothes changed, that kind of thing.

1:06:21 Yeah. I mean, at least try to hide it, drive a car somewhere, and, you know, act like the good old days, but this is not starting great.

1:06:31 Today, I asked the mom what she was up to when she came out of the room, and she didn't really say much. I kind of jokingly said, quote, "Oh, were you napping?" And she got a little red and awkward. That pretty much confirmed it for me. I know they're married adults and it's their house, but it still makes me feel a little uncomfortable since I'm taking care of their baby. They're not being disrespectful or obvious, but it just feels weird. Would it be totally out of line to ask them not to do that while I'm working? Or am I overreacting?

1:07:05 And should I just let it go? They really are such a great family and I don't want to make things awkward if this is just me being overly sensitive. What would you do?

1:07:15 This is tricky because on one hand it's disgusting and weird and violates everything HR. On the other hand, maybe they're trying to make another baby to keep employing her.

1:07:27 Oh, don't hurt your income stream, you know. But obviously you can do that when uh maybe the uh they're not there when they're not nanning.

1:07:36 Yeah. Um, I think I think yeah, they know what's going on. I think that's probably like [sighs] it's not great.

1:07:44 I can get how it feels a little uncomfortable. You know, it's one of those things where it's like we all know, we all do it or whatever.

1:07:49 Everyone does it. But but when you when when you could hear it, now you're thinking about it.

1:07:53 Yeah. No, I just don't want to hear it. So like if I was going to give this nanny advice, I'd say, "Hey, $32 an hour is amazing." Like amazing. This woman is buying you coffee and acai bowls and making you lunch some days. You say it's a dream family. Not every nanny family is like this.

1:08:11 Not every nanny family is this nice. Like no. So what I would do is, hey, you know, their lunch is their time together as a couple, which is great. You need to prioritize intimacy and sex. If that's a part of your relationship, do it. Put the baby in a buggy, a little stroller, and every day at lunch, you go take a little walk. That's your new routine. Get out of the house. Oh,

1:08:36 get out of the house. Let them do their thing. I also am coming from a really like sex and me are kind of desensitized. Like I did my doctoral thesis on

1:08:46 like intimacy and addressing sex as a part of psychosocial needs in the acute care setting. So like in a hospital setting, that was like my my whole doctoral thesis basically because it's not addressed and it's so important.

1:08:58 What What do you mean in a hospital setting? So like when you are in acute care like oftentimes I worked on a neuro unit so that was like my thing. It's like you have a stroke or you have you know a brain tumor this and that.

1:09:11 Yes you're focused on healing and like therapy but also like sex is an ADL. It's an activity of daily living.

1:09:19 So it's a big part of a lot of people's lives and even not sex but intimacy. Cuddling. How can we [clears throat] just cuddle and connect as a partner

1:09:28 like still? So, it's not talked about. Like, I I did a a speech at like a stroke panel in Palm Springs and talked about sex and like different adaptations and equipment and this and that and a couple people came up to me after and they were like, I had a stroke 5 years ago or 7 years ago, whatever it was. This is the first time someone's talking about this with me. And it's like that should be talked about in the acute stage early on. Hey, yeah, you might have limitations, but you should still be prioritizing sex. Okay, this is a whole soap box, but sex is important.

1:09:59 It's an activity of daily living. And it sounds like this husband was also having a stroke upstairs.

1:10:05 But I think the biggest I was I was really not trying to be inappropriate doing that. I That's very fascinating stuff.

1:10:10 It's crazy. There's so many cool devices. Okay. I This is just my niche. It's just bizarre because it's like, you know, it's not right, but do you bring it up? It's like, do do you live with that? Does that money now become dirty money because you're like, "Yeah, I'm getting paid well.

1:10:26 And I'm getting crust cut off my sandwiches, but I have to listen to that. I guess it's personal preference. If

1:10:31 what is she really listening to? Like there's no mention of moaning. She's maybe hearing a bad move.

1:10:38 Yeah, I I that's a good point. If you don't have any like confirmation or they're not being like flirty in front of you, it's a little better. It is a little I think it just comes down to personal preference. If you can like at least say like this could be what's happening up there and I'm not okay with it, then we find a new family. or if it is like honestly it's a pretty good gig. Sure, they uh move the couch around a lot upstairs. This is just personal preference if you're okay with that or not.

1:11:06 Put headphones on. Get some noise cancelling headphones. Talk it up as a work. Invite a guy over.

1:11:12 Oh, now you're getting fireable offenses. Yeah, fire with fire. Um yeah, I feel like it's just it's pounding. I mean, yeah. Well, it's it's just interesting cuz you're in their like home.

1:11:25 It is. I will say like I'm obviously a little more desensitized to this. Is it uncomfortable? You're maybe directly beneath them in the living room and you're hearing a bad move. Yeah. If it feels like something you need to get off your chest and just say, "Hey, it's, you know, making me uncomfortable." Like, yeah, they could probably find another time realistically. But at the end of the day, like you have to kind of determine, is it worth me potentially losing my job and this really good gig?

1:11:53 That's why I think it comes down to personal like and that's you got to be true to yourself.

1:11:58 I also think there could be a way. Okay, I hope this isn't manipulative, but you could say, "Hey, well, you guys are up there, little Timmy." Blame it on the kid. Little Timmy was wondering what was going on up there. I like walked up the stairs and I heard something like I don't I just don't know what I should tell your son. You know, you you're the middleman. Is that too weird if you're like, "Hey, he was asking what was going on there. I didn't know what to say. I heard some noises and I'm sure you guys weren't doing that." You know what I mean? You guys weren't right. You guys weren't right. I don't know. I It is a weird thing because then it's like is that only you can see how much further it gets because then like maybe the guy the husband's like, "Yeah, she never hears it. we can do this more or like ah the doors closed whatever who cares like

1:12:44 you know it's it's a it's a it's a weird in between I know it's it's very unique cuz it sounds like both of them were working from home or the guy would come home

1:12:53 come home for lunch and like it's so crazy cuz like in any other job obviously this wouldn't be acceptable like if your boss was having sex in their office on lunch break it'd be like oh yeah no get HR involved so if you look at it from this way like

1:13:08 it's weird because the office is attached to the house, meaning it's just the house. It's like, well, we're upstairs.

1:13:13 It'd be like if you had a different room, like if if your office building was downstairs and your apartment was at the top floor, except the difference is one floor.

1:13:23 Yeah. Blurs the lines. I know. It's tough. Some people were saying that they should sue

1:13:30 Oh. for like sexual harassment. Yo. And then everyone else in the comments was like, "No, this is horrible advice. Do not sue them. what are you doing? So, I don't know if there's any lawyers that want to chime in. Like, is this wrongful termination?

1:13:44 It doesn't there's no mention of a contract. There's no mention of like anything like that. One of the top comments, oh, girl, laughing my ass off at $32 an hour.

1:13:55 I would just put on headphones while baby naps and mind. Personally, I would let it go. Maybe that's the reason you're paid so well in the first place. Let mama lay it down on him so you can make $64 an hour.

1:14:08 But I think if you Yeah, that's interesting. I think it just comes down to personal morals. The same way that somebody just put headphones on and be like, "Ah, whatever." And then they come back down in 10 minutes. Who gives a [ __ ] But if that is something where you're like, "This is icking me out and it's just too weird for me."

1:14:22 For you, there's definitely families where both parents are at work. They're not working from home.

1:14:27 It is. And that's a that's a really good point cuz I have to realize like not everyone is as just like can brush it off. And

1:14:34 I would definitely I'd be I would be uncomfortable, but I would find a solution that doesn't involve telling them. And I also think it was weird that she kind of shamed her like, "Oh, were you napping?"

1:14:46 Yeah. Cuz then it's only going to get like your business. It's going to lead to a level where you're going to be more direct with the, "Oh, wow. You guys must have been stressed. You look pretty calm." Or

1:14:57 like, that's so inappropriate. You're you're at the end of the day an employee. They can fire you at will.

1:15:02 Mhm. So if it's a boundary for you then yeah give them notice and find a different family but like don't be unprofessional.

1:15:09 We do have a couple more comments from OP please. Someone goes you are overreacting. I don't think you should make comments to them about what they are doing behind closed doors. I personally feel you should not ask them to not do that. You're overstepping and making it an issue. You said they aren't loud nor making it obvious adults do adult things. OP goes but I'm working. You don't think it's disrespectful to [ __ ] while someone's taking care of your kids under your roof? It's making me uncomfortable. They both go in the bedroom and come out hair messy and smiley. It makes me feel weird. Someone goes, I mean, good for them. Many parents end up hating each other during the baby years. These guys are lucky.

1:15:49 They can afford a nanny and maintain a healthy sex life. They treat you well. You can't actually hear anything. So, I would not be making things awkward. OP goes, "It's very awkward." They both come down smiley and happy and in a good mood. Like, "Guys, I know what you just did. You just had sex."

1:16:07 Yeah. Someone goes, "Then quit." "Damn." OP responds, "This is a super good paying job. The parents are beyond nice. This is the only flaw."

1:16:18 Well, I wonder why they're so nice. I still think maybe I should mention it and maybe they'll stop [ __ ] during my workday.

1:16:23 They won't. Cuz then I think if they mention it, they'll probably just fire her. It's it's it's really a unique awkward situation because then if you wear headphones and you come down and like you were never wearing headphones throughout the day and then you have headphones in. Well, maybe that might give them a clue cuz if you're not wearing headphones and they come down, you have headphones on, you're like, "Oh, hey guys."

1:16:42 Yeah, I just then that might be like, "Oh, you have headphones on." Oh, did you hear it?

1:16:47 Maybe. Um, we do get contacts that OP is 28 years old because I my first thought was like, how old? Yeah.

1:16:55 Are they? Like, is this an 18-year-old nanny? 20-year-old nanny, like 28. I'm like, okay. They've been a nanny for a decade.

1:17:04 But we do get an update. That Friday morning, I told my nanny mom that I wanted to talk during the baby's nap, and she said okay. I brought up how uncomfortable I felt about what I thought was going on and mentioned how I could sometimes hear or notice things that made me think they were having sex while I was there. I told her it made me uncomfortable and that's when everything went downhill.

1:17:27 Yep. She was very direct with me. She said my only job was to take care of the baby, not to worry about what she and her husband were doing. Damn.

1:17:35 She told me if I had downtime, I could watch TV or read a book. I told her it just seemed weird that she'd come out with messy hair or different clothes. And she explained that sometimes they do workout videos in their room. Sometimes it's sex.

1:17:48 P90X. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. She threw that in there. She's like, "Yeah, sometimes we're watching some P90X, some old some old '7s workout videos. Sometimes we're getting clapped.

1:18:00 Sometimes it's sex, sometimes it's cuddling, and sometimes they're just napping." She said whatever happens in her bedroom is none of my business. After that, things got really quiet. She wasn't mean, but I could tell she was uncomfortable and hurt. Then she told me I could go home for the day, and I just knew that meant I was done. Later, she texted saying that they were going to move in another direction, and that was it. I feel horrible. I know I crossed a boundary, and I regret bringing it up so much. I miss them terribly. The money was amazing. My nanny mom was so kind and their baby was absolutely perfect. I really wish I could fix this and somehow get my job back. How do I get my job back?

1:18:46 Buy them lube. I really don't think this is a lesson learned and you move on. Well, yeah,

1:18:53 you're not getting rehired. It's a lesson learned, but also I think had she would have continued to work there and not brought it up, she would have just still felt this weird emotion because it felt like this family wouldn't have stopped doing that. Damned if you do, damn if you don't type thing cuz if she stayed there, she'd be like, "God, I should quit. This is getting weird." She left and she's like, "Why did I leave? It wasn't that weird." Like,

1:19:10 yeah, I think for this person's brain and like way of thinking and comfortability, I do think the confrontation needed to happen and now it's like hindsight's always 2020. like you would have left and then regretted it and been like, "Well, if I would have just talked to them, maybe they would have stopped."

1:19:27 She got the clarity she was looking for of like, "Are you guys doing this?" She's like, "Yeah, you know, sometimes we're doing a hit class upstairs or sometimes he's hitting." You know, it's just really It is a bizarre awkward thing to deal with, which I'm surprised that nobody else in that nanny support was like, "Yeah, this happens sometimes. It's bizarre. Here's what I do."

1:19:46 I know. Not many comments I see on the original post. I mean, someone does like after the update go back and comment and it's just like you were way out of line confronting because you suspect the married adults may have taken advantage of what they expected to be private time to do private things. Really OP, the kid is napping instead of taking a break or focusing on cleaning or preparing for other activities. You were being creepy, easedropping, listening for bed cracks, generating a fence that they might have probably did enjoy a private intimate mutual activity in the most private space in their home. You're the problem.

1:20:20 The whole problem. Damn. But, you know, I feel like I'm gonna push back here. If I'm that nanny and I'm like trying to read a book and you hear like stuff moving upstairs, like that's all my head's going to be thinking about. Like it's it's you can not address it, but like there is that thought in the back of your head that you're like the curiosity. You're just like happening.

1:20:40 Yeah. You can't like it's hard to focus. Yeah. And it's like it's it's going on around me. Like it's just it is like how I don't know. I can't tune it out. It's like

1:20:48 you're like, "Oh, I'm putting headphones in so I don't hear them having sex." It's not like I'm putting headphones in cuz I want to listen to this song or this podcast. It's like the the there is an underlying tone that like

1:20:57 needs to be addressed somehow or some way, but I I don't think it just probably felt very confrontational to be like, "Hey, can we talk this and that?"

1:21:04 Yeah. No, if someone's confronting me like this in my home, you're you're done.

1:21:07 Yeah. You're done. But then again, like, how do you bring it up nonchalantly? I don't know. You don't.

1:21:12 It's I guess it's also not your how I don't know. It's hard. And like so many people are like, "Girl, in this economy, do what you want in that room. Just pay me, lol." Like so many people are coming from a place of like, "You're getting paid $32 an hour." Like, just find something else to do with your time.

1:21:28 Like again, I don't even care if the baby's napping. Put the baby in the stroller. It can nap.

1:21:32 Yeah. Here's what you do. You look at the other job listings for a nanny and you go, "Okay, this one pays 20 an hour. I probably won't hear sex." Or 32 an hour and I might have to hear some uncomfortable stuff for about four to eight minutes.

1:21:43 It's not long. It is interesting though. We do get one last kind of brief update.

1:21:50 They did text the nanny mom trying to get their job back. Nanny mom responded that she forgives me and that she hopes I take this as a learning experience, but they won't hire me back.

1:22:00 I miss her so much. She said she talked to her husband about everything and they decided to give me a month's pay until I find a new job.

1:22:07 That's nice. It ends up being $5,200. Yeah. Like she really blew a great gig. Like what is that math on the year? [clears throat]

1:22:17 The mom. You're really quick with the sexual puns. You know, there's a lot in this one.

1:22:25 Yeah. 65K. Yeah. I think for what this year this nanny does is she just Googles every private school in the area and just hangs out up front. Hey, you do you need more time for you and your husband to be intimate? I charge 32 an hour for you guys to do whatever the hell you want upstairs.

1:22:44 I want to ask questions. Yeah, I I'll bring the AirPods. They're the pros. They cancel out the sound.

1:22:50 Sony, baby. Yeah. Um OP does go on to say, to be honest, maybe a part of the problem was that I was a little jealous of her.

1:22:59 Oh, interesting. She's a stay-at-home mom, beautiful, only 28, rich, has this gorgeous home, and her and her husband are truly happy.

1:23:07 The mom was 28. Mhm. Oh, well, yeah. Well, wasn't the babysitter also 28? That's where the jealousy was.

1:23:13 She's such a good mom, and it just felt like she had this perfect life, her dream life, and I'm the same age. And I think that made me feel small in ways that I didn't even realize at the time. I hate admitting that, but it's true.

1:23:25 Damn. Now, I just feel so lost. I miss them so much. I keep wishing I could go back and do things differently. I know I can't, but I still hope one day I can find a family even half as good as them. I don't know if I should try reaching out again down the road or just accept that it's over and move on. Part of me wants to hold on to hope, but part of me knows that I need to respect their decision. Any advice on what I can do to maybe get them back or should I just leave it and start fresh?

1:23:51 I'm really debating. It sounds like she was really close with the mom because of the same age. It sounded like just like a friend. I was like, I think they could still be friend. Just be friends with her.

1:23:59 She's like a permanent third wheel. Like like they should all they could all go out to dinner and just not talk cuz not at once does she mention she misses like well maybe she does. I don't know. She doesn't mention like she misses the child. She's like I miss the mom. I miss the mom. I like I think her and the mom could still be same friends. Like go you guys could all go out to eat together.

1:24:16 She does say [clears throat] I miss my nanny baby so much. I'm kind of paraphrasing a little bit. Um I can't believe I won't be going back. It breaks my heart because they were such a big part of my life.

1:24:26 It's really It sucks. It's it's a tough tough lesson to learn. given all that like I guess for me like I always make decisions kind of like that risk analysis

1:24:36 why didn't you consider all this that you might get fired like if you love them so much

1:24:42 like didn't you kind of have it in your head like it was probably like impulsive when she was deciding to have the conversation

1:24:47 probably like just happened was like hey did you and your husband just but then again I've also been on her side where it's like there's something just on my mind on my mind on my mind and it's like I'm one sentence away from letting that out you know or like one more scenario. It's like she was probably thinking about it and then like that Friday or whatever day it was the husband and wife go up there and you're like I just got to say something

1:25:07 or she like um over evaluated like their closeness like she thought they were like a lot closer than they actually were and like the boundaries and lines kind of got blurred for her

1:25:19 almost like to your example you said earlier saying you're like mother-in-laws like hey I'm a part of the family it's weird you guys do that and then they're like you're unemployed.

1:25:28 Yeah. No. And that's like a good I think like I'm thinking about that too with the holidays coming up. It's like there have been stories where like in-laws are like no sex under our roof

1:25:37 and it's like well if we're here for 2 weeks we got to go to a red roof in or something.

1:25:43 Come on. Yeah. I remember um when I was younger, my sister brought her first boyfriend home from like college or like right out of college or something and like he had to sleep and like it was very like my parents like very uh cookie cutter clean. They're like, "All right. Uh, I forget his name because this was a couple exes ago. Like, you sleep on the couch and my sister, you're in your room." And it just makes the dynamic weird. Almost probably makes people want to like do the opposite.

1:26:07 Yeah. Yeah. My mom was the same way. Yeah. I snuck downstairs on that couch. Yeah. There you go.

1:26:13 Like it just I mean it's if people are going to have sex, they're going to find like they're going to find a way. If there's a will, there's a way. It is just interesting and it doesn't make it like right by any means but I guess it is something to take into account like if you are being a nanny you are freeing up the parents time so parents can do work but it also frees up time for what they don't have because the second you leave the kids like mama dada I want to hang out and they're like we just finished work.

1:26:36 Yeah, we got to go move a couch upstairs. I don't know. I know it's not great, but um yeah, I just want to tell anybody though like it's good money cuz it's still if if you if it'll if it doesn't align with you, then it doesn't align with you.

1:26:52 Exactly. Whatever whatever you know you can live with. Tricky one though. It is really tricky. And when you think about it in that way where it's like in a traditional job setting, boss could not have sex in [clears throat] their office during lunch break. So if you do look at it that way, you're like,

1:27:09 it's not necessarily right. But it well it's just bizarre because like let's say they were on a like a like a townhouse where there's three stories and kids are on the bottom they're on top and you don't hear anything then you don't have it's only because there was like the thought that that was heard a little bit.

1:27:23 I know but then like a lot of people were like why are you listening so intently? Like why are you trying to hear them and catch them?

1:27:29 I think it's almost like it's just that curiosity you know it's like in every scary movie you hear a leaf outside and like we got to see what it is.

1:27:37 Oh my god. Yeah. you hear like one like, you know, spring in the matches, you're like, "Hold on." It

1:27:42 also sucks if the husband's hot, too. I mean, she kind of came clean with it at the end. She's like, "I'm jealous. She's got the life I want." And so, maybe that was the real issue,

1:27:51 which is a little creepy. It is a little creepy, but self-awareness, first step to

1:27:57 healing, maybe. Overall, it's better she's not there anymore. And she can be friends with them if she wants, but um she got the answer she was looking for.

1:28:03 Yeah. And instead of the parents lying. Very true. Okay, let me give you a choice. Do you want that breastfeeding story to end with?

1:28:13 Yeah. Okay. So, the last one, you guys, it does get a little weird. Um, some of the comments kind of I don't know. They mention like this is very inappropriate. I'm not a parent. I don't know what's appropriate or inappropriate.

1:28:29 Same for an 8-year-old. So, proceed with with care. And if you can't, thank you so much for being here and enjoying this episode with us and see you next week. But this one,

1:28:40 but if you're along for the ride, strap in. So, this is coming from off my chest, 8 days old, titled, I caught my boyfriend

1:28:47 literally off the chest. I caught my boyfriend's stepmom breastfeeding her eight-year-old.

1:28:53 Okay, hold on. Let's work this backwards. Your boyfriend's stepmom breastfeeding an eight-year-old. Mhm. This happened a week ago and it is still making me sick. At our joint family Thanksgiving, we do this to save time, knock it out in one day. I was sitting with my boyfriend, his dad, my dad, his stepmom, and her 8-year-old daughter. The daughter starts to complain to her mom that she's hungry, so I offer to take her to the kitchen to make her a plate since I was going in there anyways to refill my drink. The daughter started yelling and said, "No, I want mommy's."

1:29:26 So, I thought that she meant the dish that her mom brought. So, I said, "Layla, not her real name. We can go get something on a plate and then bring it back here so you can eat it with your mommy. She's very attached to her mom." Then the stepmom size and then takes her into the guest room, which I assume is to correct her behavior for yelling. My mom used to do that.

1:29:48 Yeah. I get a plate of the casserole her mom brought and go to take it into the guest room where the stepmom and daughter are, and I knock. The stepmom said, "Come in." So I did and saw her fully breastfeeding her daughter like she was a baby.

1:30:02 Who? Come in. Uh, no. Like holding her in her lap and saying things like, "Good, good. Is it yummy?"

1:30:11 Oh. I out loud go, "What the fuck?" True. And so my boyfriend comes over and has the same reaction. I just shut the door trying not to be sick because there's no way that the stepmom is lactating. She even told us before that she couldn't breastfeed when she had her other daughter. So, this whole thing just makes me sick. I always noticed that she babyed the 8-year-old, but never thought that she would go this far. My boyfriend and I immediately said that we're cutting the night short and politely asked everyone to leave. So, everyone leaves and the stepmom pulls me aside before she leaves with my boyfriend's dad and other daughter and said, "You have no right to judge me. She was hungry. Thinking about this still makes me nauseous. My boyfriend was equally disgusted and decided to go low contact with them after this incident. He made the call that they are not allowed back in our home. I'm literally shaking as I

1:31:03 write this because it is so disturbing and gross. Has nobody heard of whey protein? Has anybody heard of like, "Oh, you're hungry. Let me whip up a a protein shake real quick."

1:31:12 Well, like I first thing I Googled is quote, "How old should you stop breastfeeding your child?"

1:31:18 Yeah. Um, I think when they can start asking, "Mama Milky, you're done." The second you know my name, get off.

1:31:25 If they're coming up to you, running up to you being like, "Boop." No. Yeah. Well, I'm hungry is like such a full sentence of like,

1:31:33 "Okay, well, let's get let's get some MS for you." Yeah. No applesauce. I don't know. Like Google says when it feels right. So, it's up to each parent, obviously. Often between 12 months and 3 years.

1:31:45 Okay. Okay. So, so they're way out of the the range. They're they're they kids are talking at a three. They're like really talking. Kids are potty trained at three.

1:31:52 Are you in a grade at eighth grade? What are you in? First, second at three. Eight.

1:31:58 Oh, eight. Second grade. Yeah. That's crazy, right? Kindergarten, you're like five. First grade, you're six, seven.

1:32:07 How do you even pack a lunch? Just peanut butter and jelly and breast milk. It feels disgust to me. I'm sorry. It feels [ __ ] disgusting. 8 years old. No no no.

1:32:19 It feels like that. Yeah, that's because when when would that stop? When would when would the kid be like, "Hey, actually, this is weird. It feels a little bit like um and we're we're getting into dangerous territories right now, but it feels a little bit like that that munchounds and syndrome where they're like,

1:32:33 "Yes, you need me. You need me to give you nutrients." No, I need a microwave. You're You're on it.

1:32:42 Okay, good. Okay, cuz I didn't want to start pointing fingers and saying like but that feels like the mom is using them to and how defensive she got to be like my daughter needed me.

1:32:52 You don't you can't judge this. Well, you know, we can't, but the internet can. You're insane.

1:32:57 Well, and it's hard because like OP added the line like I don't think she's lactating. But yet the mom was like

1:33:04 it just has like a go-gurt next nipple. I don't Yeah, I don't know. But the mom was like she was hungry. which it's like, oh, she was hungry, so you fed her.

1:33:13 So, it makes me think she is lactating, right? So, it's like there maybe like maybe this writer doesn't really understand or maybe there's been something said in the past, but like it's kind of confusing cuz it's like is she genuinely breastfeeding or is this like going down a really actually dark dark line and kind of getting into like essay like child abuse? Yeah, I would really hope she's breastfeeding or else what is

1:33:38 otherwise call CPS. Call CPS, call 911, call animal control, call everybody. Get somebody get get somebody on the horn. Like

1:33:50 this is why I was so scared. I was like, I don't know if I should read this. I What what are the comments saying? And and you know, I'm thinking very much here in the the the reality of how bizarre it is. But listen, there's thousands of jokes I mean, you don't have to hold an 8-year-old is tall enough to just walk up and be like, "Put it in." I know. Like, you don't have to cradle that thing.

1:34:09 She threw a tantrum to get the tit when you're throwing like I know toddlers do it, but like

1:34:16 eight eight. If she can write in cursive, she shouldn't be breastfeeding. If you know your own name, you're done. What's your name, Trevor? Goodbye.

1:34:26 Or put it in a bottle and be like, "Oh, wow. It's uh it's vanilla whey protein extract." And the fact that they even said, "Yeah, come in." Like she was doing something normal.

1:34:36 I know. I think this lady is a little deranged. And I don't think the kid, the 8-year-old, knows how bizarre it is.

1:34:42 No. Top comment. You know what? This post is a nice reminder to stop procrastinating when I have things to do. If I hadn't procrastinated, then I likely wouldn't have seen this. Someone goes, "Right, time to do my laundry." Totally get that feeling. Some posts are wild enough to snap you right back to your to-do list. Well, that is enough of Reddit today. I'm logging off.

1:35:03 A lot of people that do leave like actual comments about the post, they say her daughter is so [ __ ] stunted. Oh my god, she should be judged for this [ __ ] An 8-year-old should not be breastfeeding.

1:35:15 Mhm. Okay. I'm I'm glad the internet is taking that stance instead of being like, "Well, some people age differently."

1:35:21 There are people that share similar experiences in the comments, too. Someone goes, "So, actually, my mother-in-law was a part of a Leche League, and my hubby's ex-wife breastfed their child until he was six." Leche league? I don't know. We're googling.

1:35:39 Spanish leche is milk. Yeah. It helps breastfeeding mothers and parents worldwide with support, education, and encouragement.

1:35:45 Huh. So, maybe some leagues they encourage you to breastfeed as long as you can. I'm not sure. That's just kind of what I'm gathering from other posts. But um

1:35:55 eight is unreal. That is far too long for someone that does not have a child. So take that with a grain of salt. But

1:36:03 and I mean God, those poor nipples must be eight years of that. From what I've heard, it does not feel good. It is a bite down for eight years.

1:36:12 I saw um a post somewhere recently that this woman got her nipple bit off from her kid breastfeeding. God damn, they must have been [clears throat] hungry.

1:36:21 Took a chunk. Yikes. Yeah. Well, I'm glad the internet was on our side on this because it's always weird when you read something in that vein and you're like, "God," it's like sometimes I'll read a Instagram or I'll watch a video on Instagram like, "God, this person's such an idiot loser." And the comments are like, "You are love this." And I'm like, "Wait, am I the bad guy?"

1:36:38 Yeah, I think somebody validate me. I know. I think that a lot. I'm just sitting here. I'm a little stunned, a little shell shocked, but I know I like I did this to us. So sorry everyone,

1:36:49 but you didn't give a nice warning beforehand like, "Hey, this is a wild ride."

1:36:53 I tried. This is like the end scene credits. I know. Roll the credits. I know. If you want something a little maybe more chipper and just, you know, funny, no trauma, go check out Trevor's podcast.

1:37:06 Hey, where can they find you? Uh, my podcast is called Stiff Socks. We have an episode on here years ago, uh, with Michael and I. And then I'm just on tour. I'm all over the world right now. Doing like 30 more shows in the month. Yeah. And then I'm filming a special in Phoenix in March. So, very fun. Excited stuff. Trevorwalls.com for tickets. Um, and then I'm always just posting sketches and funny stuff on across all my specials.

1:37:27 Going to be an unreal city to do. It's great. It's one It's It's one of my favorite, if not my favorite comedy towns.

1:37:33 They get rowdy. They get rowdy. Phoenix gets rowdy. It's It's They're close. They know all the references. They're they're they're just they're down and party and they're great.

1:37:41 So, if you're in Phoenix, you want to snag some tickets if there's if there's any left.

1:37:45 Yeah. Tickets tickets went on sale. going on sale tomorrow and this is already going to be out. So, uh, check the website trevals.com because I think we're going to add some shows for that.

1:37:52 There we go. All of Trevor's links will be in the description. Super easy to find. Check out his podcast. Check out everything, especially those live shows. Thank you for being here.

1:38:00 Thank you for having me back. Always so fun. Um, open invite anytime. Yeah. Makes me feel better about the world reading some of these uh some of these stories.

1:38:08 Do you feel better about like your Yeah. likeness too? You're like, I'm a good guy. cuz a lot of that felt like very young and immature like the guys who were writing it or were being written in about like how they're mature and how they handle stuff and I go I would never handle something like that and I go oh that's good

1:38:25 cuz like a 21-y old yeah 21 year old version of me yeah I don't want her in my fantasy league

1:38:30 and now I'm like well you shouldn't have lied that's growth development yeah development

1:38:35 if you were an immature guy and you heard this do you think it would get the wheels turning or do you think they'd get defensive you think they might not be ready yet how do you think an immature guy would respond to the stories today? Would they feel attacked?

1:38:48 I don't think they would feel attacked. I think they would see where they could have coached that guy and they wish that guy could have been their friends so they could have told them like, "Hey, maybe don't approach like this. Don't approach it like that."

1:38:56 Okay, I like that. Some some some sideline coaching. I like that. But you know, we want to create a safe space. Don't want to feel

1:39:00 We do. And and you know, it sounds like a lot of the guys were like, not all of them, but they were like younger 20s and that's like it's not a guy's best years. Every go it's the peak years. You're dumb. You're dumb guy. Wait till you're 26, you're paying taxes, and you don't have your family insurance plan anymore.

1:39:18 Oh, that's when you become a man. That hurt. That hurt. You know what? And for the last thing I'll say on here, if you're a dude, go play some Sims and realize how fun it can be and just it you forget about the pain in life. Go play the Sims.

1:39:33 Yeah, get some hobbies. Get a hobby. Play a game. That's all she wrote. Thank you guys and until next time. Bye.

1:39:40 Thank you for having me.

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The conversation highlights Trevor Wallace's journey in the entertainment industry, touching on his growth in stand-up comedy and his presence on YouTube, as well as a nostalgic look back at previous collaborations. The hosts celebrate his successes and discuss the evolution of his career, from early performances to significant achievements in television and film.

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