Ugly Hearts.. Ft. Gigi Gorgeous || Reddit Stories || Two Hot Takes

What this episode is about

The conversation features Morgan and Gigi Gorgeous discussing their youthful experiences with shoplifting, particularly of makeup and fashion items, highlighting Gigi's early YouTube career and their shared humorous anecdotes about their pasts. They also touch on Canadian snacks, particularly a playful debate over the divisive taste of ketchup chips.

Key takeaways

• Gigi's early YouTube fame: A testament that stealing makeup can lead to a lucrative career.
• Ketchup chips, a divisive snack; proving taste is often as contentious as politics among Canadians.
• Toronto vs. Wisconsin in serial killer fame: At least in Canada, there's a polite way to be murderous.
• Gigi’s artistic flair thrives in LA, reminding us that not all high school rebels end up in prison.
• Ugly hearts theme: It's not just a metaphor; it’s a cruel reality in relationships, especially online.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Morgan (Host) · 51 min speaking
• Gigi Gorgeous (Guest) · 34 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 10:00: Gigi Gorgeous, Two Hot Takes, Ali
2. 20:00 – 30:00: Redkin, Ed Gein, Perfect Neighbor
3. 1:20:00 – 1:24:47: Gigi Gorgeous

Notable quotes from "Ugly Hearts.. Ft. Gigi Gorgeous || Reddit Stories || Two Hot Takes"

• I'm so excited. You are just like such a legend. Started on YouTube so early. I watched one of your videos today, one of your recent vlogs, and you're like you were just getting back and connected.

  about Gigi Gorgeous · at 0:12

• Be a little selferving and get love and libido at a retailer near you or at alli.com so you can get yours. That's olly.com promo code tht30 ali.com now through.

  about Ali · at 5:39

• And you look in their eyes and you could tell like the person that they are though. I would love to see this guy.

  about Ed Gein · at 23:40

• Okay. This episode is brought to you by Redkin. Blondies, color treated hair, or my heat users, you all know how hard it is to keep your hair feeling and looking healthy. And you shouldn't have to.

  about Redkin · at 28:09

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Gigi Gorgeous — Person · Main guest · 4 mentions · first at 0:03
  Featured guest who reacts to Reddit relationship stories with the host and shares personal background (Canada → LA, early YouTube).
• Ed Gein — Person · Referenced criminal (analogy/joke) · 1 mention · first at 23:53
  Used as a dark comparison when imagining what the prankster husband ‘looks like,’ reinforcing the true-crime framing and the idea that the behavior is psychopathic.

Media & podcasts

• Two Hot Takes — Media · Main podcast · 2 mentions · first at 0:00
  The podcast where the discussion takes place, hosted by Morgan.
  Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of Two Out Takes. I'm your host Morgan and today I have the gorgeous Gigi Gorgeous.
• Perfect Neighbor — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at 24:15
  Mentioned as a show that Gigi Gorgeous has heard about and considers watching.
  Would love it. I think it's [clears throat] going to go on my list. That and have you seen Perfect Neighbor yet? [gasps] I haven't.

Sponsors

• Redkin — Product · Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at 28:09
  Promoted as a hair care product for blondies and color-treated hair during the podcast.
• Ali — Product · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at 5:25
  Promoted as a supplement for women's health and libido during the podcast.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of Two Out Takes. I'm your host Morgan and today I have the gorgeous Gigi Gorgeous. Welcome.

0:10 Thank you for having me. I'm so excited. You are just like such a legend. Started on YouTube so early. I watched one of your videos today, one of your recent vlogs, and you're like you were just getting back and connected with your your people, but you're like, "You guys have been with me since I was stealing makeup at the mall." And I was like, "Girl, same." Like, "That was me."

0:32 Did you really? Yeah. I had a I had a problem. It was just So, it was a sport for me and my drug of choice.

0:38 Drugstore. MAC. No, honestly. [sighs] MAC lipstick. Yes. But I went for like big ticket items like I did like DVDs, jeans, fur coats, like the fur.

0:53 Fur coat. How do you steal a fur coat? I don't No, I was really good. Literally, how?

0:58 I was really good. But people get mad when I talk about it. They're like, "She does not care. That's so bad." I'm like, "I was 15." Okay. 14. 15.

1:07 Yeah. A wee baby. We would have been criminals. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Totally. All of that. And a bag of chips.

1:16 Exactly. Bag of chips. Are you into the ketchup chips? Cuz you're Canadian. Yeah. Yeah. Of course I am.

1:23 Are you really? Yeah. H. Are you not? No. Who isn't into ketchup chips? I'll get behind poutine.

1:31 Duh. But the ketchup chips are like they're too unique for me. Oh my god. Stop.

1:35 Too unique for me. You don't like the taste? They just are so sour. I love them. [sighs]

1:42 I'll give it another go just for you. Yeah, I need to get you some. Okay. Whenever my sister comes back, she's like, "Oh my god, here are some ketchup chips." And I'm like, "Wait, I miss the flavor." Like it's so real.

1:55 Oh my god. Nope. Can't do it. I can't do it. Okay, let us know down in the comments. Ketchup Chips or No.

2:03 Is Team Ketchup? What is some lore though for my listeners that have not, you know, met you yet? What is your background? What's Gigi's story?

2:12 Um, well, I mean, I went to like an all uh, you know, uniform Catholic high school. very boring, not very, you know, self-expressive. Uh, and I, you know, Toronto, Canada, and I just saw the lights of LA and just like all the things. I was very creative. Literally the only before we started recording I don't know if we were but the only thing that I ever really like excelled in was like art class and like you know creativeness

2:48 like math, science, all that stuff. I was like it was tough for me. No, I feel the same way.

2:54 Yeah. So, I just feel like I was made for something else and I I still love Canada obviously, but had to uh travel to Los Angeles for a little bit more.

3:08 Okay. Yeah. I mean, I feel you. I moved from Minnesota, which is basically Canada. It's like we want Canada to adopt us a lot of the the times if you ask motans.

3:18 Isn't Minnesota big for like serial killers? I hope not. Isn't it though? I don't think so.

3:26 You don't know? No. Oh, maybe I'm thinking of another state. Wisconsin. Maybe. Wisconsin.

3:32 I feel like Wisconsin's a big one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's like the the good-looking one.

3:36 Bundy. Yeah. I see. I literally have a true crime podcast, too. And I'm like, why don't I know this?

3:42 Yeah. Wait, what? Like, what's happening? Okay. Wisconsin is higher. Two victims for every 100K.

3:51 Okay. Louisiana's the worst. Really? 7.5 victims for every 100,000 people. And Alaska, 8.6.

3:59 What about Toronto? This is only the United States. Okay, let's see. Cuz I don't really know. Maybe I could be the first. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

4:09 No, Toronto is not generally considered. Uh yeah, it's a pretty good Yeah, Canada is pretty good. London, Ontario was once infamously known as having the highest concentration of serial killers in the world between 1959 and 1984.

4:27 Oh my god. So, watch out. I've been there. Have you really? Yep. You're like, "Oh, that fits."

4:33 I dove there. Yeah. Okay. Well, our theme today, serial killers definitely have this. We're gonna determine if some of the people in these stories have this, but the theme is ugly hearts.

4:46 These people are just like not being kind, being deceptive, not being a good partner, not something's off. And it's just kind of giving ugly.

4:56 Okay. Not gorgeous. Not gorgeous. Not gorgeous. And as you know, Gigi gorgeous, you should know ugly.

5:02 Yes. Yes. I definitely do. Okay. Let's dive in. Okay. I'm excited. I don't really know what we're doing, but I'm here. I'm here.

5:10 I'm here to play. You're buckled in. You're ready. This episode of Two Hot Takes is presented by Ali. Women always come first with Ali. That's why they made their love and libido, a supplement that helps take the pressure off so you can actually enjoy yourself and sex again. Be a little selferving and get love and libido at a retailer near you or at alli.com so you can get yours. That's olly.com promo code tht30 ali.com now through November 30th. Okay, this first story, this is coming from the relationships subreddit. So, this is a community on Reddit that's all about like helping people in their relationships. It helps them vent or ask for advice. So, this is titled My 22 female boyfriend 28 male posted a photo of a friend 27 female sitting in his lap.

6:19 Okay, so some background. Matt and I have been dating unofficially for 9 months and officially for 4 months. We kept things casual at first since we were both close to graduating from our respective programs and weren't sure where we would end up. But once we were both settled in the same city, we made things official. During this casual dating phase, I met a few of his friends. One in particular, Sarah, often went out of her way to clarify that we were not official or exclusive.

6:51 She also made catty comments about my profession. I love what I do, but it's certainly not as prestigious as my boyfriend's and his friend's job. My school, again, not nearly as prestigious. My age, I'm 5 years younger than them, and has just generally made condescending comments to me and rudely interrupted me. I never made a big deal out of it because Matt's other friends are really friendly to me, and I'm generally an easygoing person. All of Matt's friends, including Sarah, recently went to a party. I was invited, but I had other plans, so I didn't go. A few days later on Facebook, someone posted a photo of all of the friends together at this party. Everyone is posed normally except Matt and Sarah.

7:37 He's sitting down and she has her arms and legs wrapped around him and is arching her back and kind of flipping her hair back.

7:47 Gag, gag, gag, gag. It clearly comes across as sexual. Uhhuh. Because several people commented on the post asking what was going on or making jokes about it. I texted Matt and asked why he thought it was a good idea to take a photo of his friend practically mounting him. And he said, quote, "Are you on something? That's just a photo of friends. There's nothing wrong with it."

8:14 I tried explaining to him that I found it disrespectful, but he hasn't budged. Am I overreacting here? What should I do?

8:25 Do you want to go? You got it. Okay. You know what? I think that there's this like age old and old tale as old as time. Can a female and a male be friends

8:40 without anything else going on? And I want to know your take on this before we really deep dive on this. I feel like it's very difficult and I feel like often times women and men have two very different intentions when starting the friendship. I think for women it can be very platonic. I think a lot of times for guys

9:01 it often times starts as attraction or trying to date that person but then they get friend-zoned. And obviously there's, you know, exceptions to every rule or whatever, but I think that's generally how it goes. So if you start on that foundation, I think it's, you know, if the line could be crossed, he might cross it.

9:20 Yes. I think that the guy is always waiting. There's studies on this. I mean, there are studies on this that I forget what exactly it is, but they pulled 100 guys, 100 women that were friends, and like the stats of the guys that would try and were waiting, it was high.

9:37 Yeah. It's like it it has to be giving like 80%. I should look it up. I'll look it up. Yeah,

9:43 cuz I'm like it is it was high. I think the girl's trying it. The arching the back and the waving of the hair and everything. I'm like, girl,

9:51 her legs are wrapped around him. That's a lot. Like that proof is in the pudding.

9:57 I don't even do that with my husband in pictures. Like I would Did you ever or like No. Yeah, exactly. So, like in a group photo, I'm going to sit there and straddle him and

10:08 she's like trying to be bad and he's dating some like I hate her. Girl, why why are you doing us dirty like this? Why are you being a pick me?

10:19 I think I hate her. It's definitely giving pick me. No, no, no no no. I don't like that guy either.

10:25 No, he's a loser and literally trying to be like, "Are you on something?" Mhm. Mhm.

10:30 That's a normal photo friends take with each other. It's normal. Kill her, kill him. Let's move on.

10:36 So, one of the top comments on the post is ah yes, the classic deflect then blame you move. That plus the fact that he never gently or otherwise said anything to her about how she treats you in general says to me that he likes her attention and does not want to give it up.

10:54 Absolutely. He loves it. Are you joking me? Of course. Yes. Yeah. No, that comment's on.

11:00 You classic like stupid guy. like just, you know, takes anything that he's given.

11:06 Just go in on it. They need to both be actually hung at the stake. Why aren't they just dating?

11:11 I don't know. Maybe it's like more naughty fun for them. Yeah. More fun. I don't know. Some people get off on that, you know?

11:19 No, I could see it. It's like you want what you can't have, but then once you could have it, you don't want it.

11:24 He's like, "Oh, actually, there's uh something shinier in the corner right behind you that I want."

11:30 Literally. So OP does respond to a thread and goes, "From what I know of Sarah's personality, she's the type of person who will say or do outrageous things for attention." And her friends will just laugh and say, "That's Sarah for you." So when she says insulting things to me, there will usually be a moment of everyone sharply inhaling followed by laughter and, "Oh my god, Sarah, you can't say things like that." When I've brought up that I don't like being the subject of her wit, Matt, my boyfriend, basically had the same reaction of that's just how she is.

12:08 I mean, I've made excuses for friends, siblings, people in general. I think it's really tough because you want to make excuses and you feel like you have to,

12:22 but at the end of the day, I feel like everyone kind of knows what's going on. I think you can kind of see through this.

12:28 You know what I mean? Have you ever like made excuses where you feel even dumb?

12:34 Yeah. Saying it as you're saying it. Yeah. I I dated someone in Canada for almost 3 years and I was in college in Minnesota and we were doing long distance and like every weekend he would disappear and I'm like what's going on? Like where were you this week? What's going on? And he's like oh I didn't have service.

12:53 I didn't have service. Yes. Where where do you say he was? Well, he was like outside of Edmonton in Lloyd Minster. Like it is middle of nowhere.

13:03 But I'm like, you still like your phone works and it's not like you're off the grid. Like you have Wi-Fi too, [ __ ]

13:09 Right. But in my dumb song, if you wanted to, you would. Yeah. Yeah. Meanwhile, like we ended up breaking up and he did have another girlfriend up there. So, you know, but at the time you're like, "Oh my god." Yeah. You don't have service, right? Duh. We convince ourselves.

13:26 Clear as day. Just Yeah. Yeah. It's silly. Like even like if you have like um you know like a sloppy drunk friend or best friend or sister or whatever, you're always like, "Oh, no, no, no. That's like just her." Like it's so She's so fun. Like that's just her.

13:42 She's just outrageous. Yeah. Crazy. Crazy. She's so crazy. Love her though. You'll love her. That's just her.

13:48 Yeah. It's like But you know when you're saying it it's like No. And it's like I like I have one of my best friends. Her name is Alexis and she's she's just she talks loud but she's so fun. And like Alexis would never be cruel. Like she would despise cruelness like this. And so it's like

14:05 there's a difference between just being like a goofy or sillier person and being out there or louder or whatever versus like, oh no, you're just kind of a [ __ ] You're an [ __ ]

14:14 Like you're just not nice. That's what I can't stand for. I feel like that's the excuse that I wouldn't fight for meanness or bitchiness or passive aggressiveness. I just can't with any of that.

14:26 Why the cruelness? But if they're being like zany or wacky, I'm like I'll always make an excuse for that cuz I'm like that's just them.

14:34 That's fun. Yeah, that's fun though. Like that's the difference. Yeah. So we do get an update on this.

14:40 Okay. So sometimes on these posts we get updates. We get resolutions. Hello. So, this is coming a month and a half later. So, after reading the responses here, I felt like I was being pretty rational about my concerns. I confronted my boyfriend, and not only did he double down on the insistence that he did nothing wrong, but he also said some pretty nasty things. This brought up other issues we've had, and I decided to end things. Now, almost a month later on social media, I see that he and Sarah are dating. [sighs] Oh my god. Clear as day, my love.

15:17 Shameless. What the [ __ ] So much for that being a normal picture of platonic friends to take right?

15:24 Mhm. Lesson learned. Trust your gut and choose a partner who respects you. I never felt secure in that relationship, but I know one day I'll find someone who cares about me and isn't quasi cheating with his friend. Being single is 100 times better than being called crazy for calling out inappropriate behavior.

15:42 Mhm. Mhm. Rightfully so. What's quasi, would you say? Quasi. Quasi. Quasi. Like quasimoto.

15:50 I don't know. I That's all I say. Like hunchback behavior. It's a pretty big word for me. Um, it means in some sense resembling or not completely, but almost.

16:03 Like semi. Yeah. Mid. Yeah. I'm trying to find a like a a sentence that like would help provide context for us. Yeah. that's attached to another word to indicate that something is not fully but has some sort of features,

16:17 right? So, it's like they were quasi dating like they weren't actually dating. It's not fact. It's like.5 fact.

16:22 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You kind of see it but it's not official. Well, I feel like when your gut is telling you something I really really truly believe that you should really always listen to that voice. There's something that I I feel like I've learned that and tell me if you feel the same way. So there's like the inner sabotur voice

16:43 that's telling you like you you want to act in a movie, you can't act in a movie. There's no way you are talented enough. They're not going to want you. Whatever. Or like maybe acting in a movie is not right for you. [snorts] That's like your gut.

16:59 Mhm. The hateful speech is like your inner sabot sabotur. I love that. Like it's impostor syndrome, but the way you say it sounds better. Inner sabotur.

17:09 Yeah. It's just like, "Oh my god, shut up. Shut up." Like, "I got this." But also, like, your gut is like, "Maybe this person isn't in love with me. Maybe they are seeing somebody else." You know what I mean? Like that's a gut.

17:22 An inner sabotur is like something else. So, if it's like your true gut, like go with that. Listen to her.

17:29 No. Trust your gut for sure. Especially like if you don't trust your partner and like you're getting weird vibes and your radar is kind of going off like something's up here, you're probably right. Like we have those instincts for a reason,

17:43 right? And you spend so much time with your partner like you know the way they move.

17:49 Like if something is weird, it's probably weird. Probably weird. You know what I mean? Like you're not making it up unless you're like on like narcotics or something. I don't know.

17:58 Having a bad day. Yeah. having a bad having a bad day. This next one I think could fit into this whole vibe of like something's up but like what is up? Like is it gut or is it inner sabotur?

18:13 Okay. Okay. This is a bit scary you guys. Um I don't know what trigger warning to add. Maybe it needs one. Maybe I'll patch it in.

18:22 Murder. [sighs] You might be a little psychic over there. Really? This is titled, "Am I the [ __ ] for going home after my husband dangled me over the parking garage edge as a prank?" And I thought he was killing me.

18:40 What? I know you joked murder. Okay. Wait, what? Literally, what? Hi, Reddit. This happened a couple of days ago. I went out with my husband to eat at a place nearby that we had booked for that time, and he wanted to go for a while. He'd been really looking forward to it. And so I drove him there and we parked on the top floor of the parking garage nearby. We got out of the car and started walking down the stairs, which were right on the edge of the parking garage. He started talking about how high up we were and jokingly asked if I thought I could survive if I jumped down from there. And obviously I wouldn't have.

19:17 Hey. As we were turning down the stairs and we were right next to the edge, which had a small railing before a straight drop, he shouted out all caps, "Say goodbye!" and suddenly grabbed me and picked me up and brought me over the edge and dangled me there. And I [ __ ] screamed out. I was so scared. I thought he was going to kill me. And he held me over the edge for a second.

19:47 [gasps] and then pulled me back and sat me down. And I was in shock and he was laughing like it was the funniest thing ever. And I was still processing what he had just done to me. I was legitimately shaking and lost my appetite and mood to be out and I just decided I wanted to go home and I told him I'm going home and he said it was just a joke and that he was just trying to have fun. I told him he can come home with me now or he can take the bus, but I'm driving home right now. He said I ruined the date because he'd really been wanting to eat there and huffed on the way back and I was still shocked because I was literally hanging over the edge and I got home and I was just thinking about it and I started crying and he didn't even come over and console me. He apologized later, but it was like sorry you got scared instead of sorry for doing something I shouldn't have and now my mood was just ruined for

20:42 the rest of the day. So, Reddit, am I the [ __ ] for going home? Ruined for the rest of the day is so nice.

20:50 I would I You know what I would do? Hit him with the car as you get in and drive home.

20:56 Absolutely. Be like, I was kidding. It was a prank. I was joking. Wasn't that funny?

21:01 No, no, no. Payback. I mean, I'm a revenge [ __ ] Like, I would see Red. How do you revenge this? Like, what do you dangle him over something? Like,

21:12 I don't I would like take a axe and like chop his foot off and be like kidding.

21:19 Like how dare I I just don't see where this uh is like rational in any way. No. How is this a joke? Dangling someone over the side.

21:30 Also, how how big is he and how small are you? How is he dangling you off and then taking you back?

21:36 Also, like it's like you must be really little. I I just like the logistics. Yeah. I'm like very confused on the logistics.

21:44 I would definitely if someone dangled me over the edge like I would get dropped. Like I would just splat real fast. But

21:49 right cuz that's like actually attempted murder. Like it's like you're trying to kill me. That's not a joke.

21:54 No. And like here's the thing. Like when someone's panicked, you can't predict how they're going to respond. If she would have like started wriggling about,

22:01 scratched his eyes out. What if he accidentally dropped her? Like yeah, okay, maybe it's a joke to you, but like accidents still happen. What if you literally dropped me?

22:10 Right. And like is that funny? Like a fake, you know how like you know brothers will like come up to you and like fake punch you and stuff like that? Like that's cute, but like to like off a ledge is a lot.

22:23 A ledge. Yeah. Like this. He's actually an alleged ledge. He's giving psychopaths.

22:29 No, it's weird. Like I would honestly feel weird sleeping beside that person at night.

22:35 I wouldn't be able to. No, me neither. I like would not be able to. Trust lost. I'm going to the guest room and I'm locking the door near me.

22:43 You know what though? Good for her for saying, you know, come with me or I'm driving home. Is that what she said?

22:48 Yeah. Like, good for her. Like, you can either come with me now or take the bus.

22:51 Exactly. Love that for her. Honestly, I love it. I love that she was like, I'm not I'm not going to even fake this dinner.

22:57 Like, we're done. But I almost wish she would have been like, you're taking the bus home to think about what you did. Bye. Like, [ __ ] you.

23:04 What's the next thing going to be, though? pushing her in front of a train being like kidding.

23:10 Like, girl, god, you're living with a psychopath. I know. So, the top comment clearly says like not the [ __ ] Like, this is not on you. They ask, "How long have you been married? Is he often someone who finds pranks hysterical? Do you have a very large life insurance?" I'm just trying to understand what made him think this was okay.

23:32 That's actually a good question. I I didn't even like I would never think that. Me neither.

23:38 Oh my gosh. You know when you meet someone though and you look in their eyes and you could tell like the person that they are though. I would love to see this guy.

23:45 What he looks like in this room with us right now. Who are you envisioning? [ __ ] like Ed Geen.

23:53 I need to watch the new show. Like I've heard Monsters is really good. You haven't watched it?

23:57 No. Oh my god. That's so up your alley. I know. I like have a hard time with scary stuff though. Oh,

24:02 which is weird because I can do true cry. What? It's the whole thing. Gigi, I don't know.

24:07 Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I respect it. Don't judge. Um, but that's crazy. You would love it. I think

24:14 it's [clears throat] going to go on my list. That and um, have you seen Perfect Neighbor yet? [gasps]

24:19 I haven't. I've heard that one is like I've seen so much about it though that I feel like I have to.

24:24 You've basically watched it. Okay. Okay. Have you? I need to. Again, it's on my list, but I've heard it's just like cuz it's all through body cam footage and it's just like what the [ __ ]

24:33 Mhm. So, OP does respond to that comment. We've been married for a couple of years and we'd had been dating for some time before that. I met him at church and we got married after I got pregnant and we do have life insurance. And I was thinking I was going to die and my baby was not going to have a mother and I screamed out and I didn't think it was a prank in the moment. I was so scared and shocked for so long after, too. He has scared me before by shocking me, like when I walked through the door and he came out and yelled, or when he snuck up behind me and shook me once when he came home from work early.

25:11 And I was cooking. Mm- Or when he once pretended he fell off a ladder and I came running out after hearing a loud noise and him groaning. But this time, I literally thought I was going to die.

25:22 I cried when I got home. I never cried from him shocking me before. Okay, pranks are funny. You know, social media and all of that stuff is really funny. We see like couple pranks, couple social media accounts and all that.

25:36 I can't even handle when like a friend is getting ready down the hall and doesn't like announce themselves before cuz I'm like

25:46 like if the water is on, I'm listening to a podcast, whatever. Like I get freaked out.

25:50 I'm a jump scare person. Yeah. I don't like being like shocked like that. No. Like announce yourself. If I was in like a relationship with somebody and I thought, "Oh my god, they've done this to me before. They're hiding behind a door." Like my I probably have a heart attack.

26:08 I can't handle that. No, I can't either. And it's just like I I don't know what his intention here is. And it it feels like they're definitely escalating in terms of what he's doing. So, I really feel like he's he's testing your boundaries to see what he can get away with.

26:23 I think he also seems a little bit misogynistic. He thinks women he hates women. He probably hates you and he just wants to control you.

26:33 I mean, but you don't play ball like that. Like, you don't Yeah. Like, you don't prank him back, but he knows that he like got you.

26:41 Yeah. You know, he hates women. He hates you. You need to divorce him. I was going to say it's time to pull out the dword.

26:48 It's done. Divorce. It's done. Done. Divorce. Divorce. Uh, Delaware. Oh my god. Yeah.

26:58 Good luck, girl. Cuz you know what? It seems like it's escalating. Like it is. And you've got a baby involved. Like at this point, you really need to like look out for yourself and your little one.

27:13 He needs Jesus. Well, he was already going to church, so I don't think that's it.

27:17 But maybe he really needs Jesus. I think he needs an exorcism. Or to come out as gay, who he truly is.

27:26 Call up a priest. Um, there's just like one other recommendation. People are like, "Please file a police report. Like, please have this on record because this is a

27:35 Well, this is the record. If she doesn't, it's insane. But we don't have an update. She never came out and posted again.

27:42 She has to get out of there. I know this is 7 months old now. So hopefully, you know, she sees this, hears this, and gets an update to us like, "Hey, I did get divorced.

27:55 Life is good. I'm alive. I got so custody. We're good. We're good here." Sad that there's a kid. He seems nuts.

28:02 I know it. I just I can't even imagine. Me neither. I cannot. But moving along to this next one.

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28:51 Okay, story number three for us here. It is coming from Am I the [ __ ] Titled, "Am I the [ __ ] for blowing up at my mother-in-law at a family dinner?"

29:01 Love this one. throwaway account since my husband is an active Reddit user. I, 23 female, have been married to my husband, 24 male, for 3 years. We were high school sweethearts and have been best friends since elementary school. He's still my best friend to this day. I've never had a great relationship with his mom. She's difficult to talk to and our conversations are usually very shallow, gossiping about neighbors, complaining about landscapers, etc. Almost a year ago, my mom passed away, which still feels surreal to write. She truly was my soulmate, and I'm incredibly grateful to have had her in my life for 23 years. I miss her more than words can describe. My husband's family really stepped up during that time, supporting us financially with funeral costs and managing affairs when I was deep in grief. I'm genuinely grateful for their help. Fast forward to now, we're expecting our first baby. As

29:58 excited as I am, I'm also deeply saddened that my mom won't be here to guide me through this. We always talked about what my kids would call her. We had settled on Grahams. Now to the incident. We were celebrating our pregnancy dinner at my in-laws house and my mother-in-law asked to make a toast. She laughed and said, quote, "I'm so grateful to celebrate a new addition to our family. We can't wait to meet little Veronica, which is her name. She went on to talk about her own pregnancy and what I should expect, mentioning that my husband had an abnormally big head when he was born. Then she said, quote, "I look forward to being the favorite grandma to Veronica since, of course, I'll be the only grandma." The room went silent. I started to cry. I stood up and I told her how incredibly insensitive it was to say that and that my mom would always be a grandmother whether she's here or not. She responded by saying I

31:02 was overreacting and that it's just a joke. I told her to go to hell and left immediately. My husband later called me saying he spoke to his mom who was in tears because she was embarrassed.

31:15 Oh god. She asked him to apologize on her behalf and he told me I should have came back instead of telling her to go to hell and storming off. I'm currently staying with my sister and I haven't stopped crying since. She supports me 100%. But I really want to know, am I the [ __ ]

31:33 Number one, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Don't think for one second that you are. Even to question if you are the [ __ ] is insane to me. I think that this woman is absolutely bonkers, nuts, out of control. And I I mean, I I'd like to first of all say I think I'm so proud of you for even standing up in that moment because as a people pleaser, I would have just like held on to it for a little bit.

32:03 She really did it with her chest and said that and like I'm very proud of you. Yeah. Like good for you cuz she needed to hear that in that moment. And obviously she has no boundaries,

32:14 you know, so like somebody has to [ __ ] punch her in the gut in the moment or she'll just continue doing it. But she seems unstoppable in that way. So like

32:27 unstoppable and enabled. Like now your husband who should have your back is like,

32:35 "Oh well, you you know, you're overreacting and she's embarrassed and she sends her apologies, but you shouldn't have stormed off. You shouldn't have told her to go to hell."

32:44 Mhm. It's on you. Mhm. No, I don't think it's on me. We're not going to call our baby your mom's name, Veronica. We When has that been discussed? And then she's trying to [ __ ] psychologically warfare me with saying you had a big head. So great, that's going to make me feel good. I already got to worry about a [ __ ] watermelon coming out of me. Great. Now I got to deal with a big head. Thanks. Okay.

33:07 And then she's the only grandma because my mom's dead. Go [ __ ] yourself. Go to hell. Go to hell. You rot in Satan's little prison. You deserve it.

33:17 Yeah, agreed. I think that it borders on the line of like insecurity and narcissism. It's definitely coming from a place of like deep insecurity cuz like otherwise like what why are you threatened by another grandma that's gone

33:32 gone gone gone like are you that insecure? Is it even about the grandma being dead or is it about me being a woman

33:42 and being in the mix? You know what I mean? Like does the death mean anything to you or is it just that I'm existing in this family? Like I think that she's threatened in in many ways, but yeah, you know,

33:55 I mean, she our writer here, OP, is coming between the mom and her son. So maybe there's some jealousy, insecurity there.

34:04 Has to be. Maybe she's like super beautiful or like, you know, the attention has been taken a little bit or something. She needs that.

34:12 I could see that. Yeah, cuz I would like be very curious if you asked her like in the moment, Veronica, if you were dead, you wouldn't be a grandma.

34:21 Mhm. Hope nothing happens to you. Period. Like I would in that moment like I Oh, I would I would be so hurt. And

34:29 me, too. I'm a people pleaser, too. Like, I've been in kind of awkward situations like this where [ __ ] gets said to you and you just kind of like Mhm.

34:36 Yeah. But you hold on to it. You have to deal with it eventually. But like nice for her to like actually say something in the moment.

34:42 I want this energy. Like I want to be this big of a person. Do that. Like I'll take like a week and then I'll be like, you know, but also it's like it's your partner's problem. It's not really yours, you know?

34:53 No. But it's like it becomes yours when like your partner doesn't have your back and

34:57 doesn't do anything about it. Yeah. And it's like that's your family of origin. Like that is who you're supposed to deal with.

35:02 Yeah. I'm your person. You're supposed to have my back. Especially when it comes to your family

35:08 cuz dealing with a mother-in-law like that, it'll only get worse if you're the enemy and like your angel son is like the you know like God's gift to the earth.

35:20 Like it'll never get better. No. And it it I mean she says like I've never had a great relationship with his mom.

35:26 It's only going to get worse. She probably hates you baby. Yeah. Which Yeah. Oh my god. I've read stories on Reddit, too, in past [clears throat] episodes where like

35:36 the mom does not like daughter-in-law and like talks [ __ ] about the mom to the kids.

35:42 Like, grandma loves you so much more than mommy. Like Mhm. What? Like it's giving like Monster-in-law, that movie with like

35:50 Oh my god. Uh Jane Fonda. Jane Fonda. Like you win. You win. Are we done? Like we're good.

35:57 Like can we be done with this? Like it's exhausting cuz it's their battle. You're just like appeasing them.

36:05 Yeah. And that sucks. Top comment on this one. Your mother-in-law said something severely inappropriate and insensitive. No person in their right mind would think that she was okay. No matter how many years have passed since your mother's death. Hell, my grandmother passed away 10 years ago. And when my son was born 2 years ago, my mom and I talked a lot about how much we missed her and how we wished she was here to see him. We still say this often. When he's reached a milestone or even if we're just doing something we know that she would have enjoyed, we say this. It's natural to think about deceased relatives more at a time like this. And she says something as callous as that. Not the [ __ ] M mm-m.

36:51 And next comment down says, "And she can apologize herself, not through her son, which that pisses me off. You're going to make your son apologize for you." No, no, no. You're saying it to my face. You're not getting off easy.

37:05 Yeah, cuz both of you don't mean it at that point. You know what I mean? I think that she's unfixable and I think that uh he's unfixable as well. She's not going to ever take blame or apologize or mean it. If she says it, she doesn't mean it. And he's just doing it to keep the peace cuz he's like, "Oh, these two girls in my life, you know,

37:25 proofs in the pudding. Like, show me." I know. I don't have to tell you. No. And that's how like all of these like life proof is in the pudding. Like your actions need to demonstrate you actually give a [ __ ] And like my feelings were were validated. Like you heard me.

37:40 Exactly. Look at what happened. Like this is not wrong to you. Hello. We uh we do get an update.

37:49 Yeah. We get separate update. Tell me they tell me they divorced. Just want to take a moment to say thank you all for your support. Your comments and messages have been incredibly eyeopening.

38:01 Oh my god. After staying with my sister for a few days, my husband came over. He said he understood why I was hurt but felt that I overreacted. No.

38:12 He asked me to apologize to my mother-in-law to keep the peace, which felt like a betrayal. I had hoped he would stand up for me. That night, my mother-in-law sent a long text doubling down on her joke and saying, "My grief is becoming a burden on everyone."

38:34 Oh, girl. She told me that I need to seek professional help and move on since it's been almost a year. I

38:44 since devastated. Oh my god. Almost a year. Not even a year. Has she lost anyone in her life?

38:52 How insensitive is that? I like I already know I'm going to be catatonic. Podcast will not exist for quite some time after. Like I'm just like what? What?

39:00 [ __ ] off. Hate her. Hate her. I showed my husband the message, but he got angry at me for escalating things. He said I should make peace with her for our child's sake and that he didn't want to be caught in the middle. I've decided to take some space and stay with my sister. I'm really struggling to come to terms with this. This whole situation has made me question if my marriage is right for me and my baby. M

39:29 I need an environment where I feel respected and supported and I don't feel that way right now. I told my husband that if he wants me back, he needs to show me he can stand up for me. I'm putting myself and my baby first. I don't know what will happen next, but I know I deserve better than this. My sister and I are currently turning her old office into a room, prepping for Ros's after my mom Rosa's arrival. I feel truly blessed to have her support. Thank you again for all your support. It has meant more than you know.

40:05 I mean, he's got to really do some [ __ ] I don't For me, I I hold grudges. I'm like you. Like I

40:15 I like can move past it. I never like and this is like I maybe should work on this, but like I don't truly forgive and I don't forget, but I just like I move on. Like I don't have time to deal with that. And like you're not worth any of my energy or another thought on

40:30 So like for me this would be very hard to recover from with a baby with him. Yeah. [snorts]

40:35 I mean you have to co-arent like that's in your future now. But also don't have to forgive or forget to co-parent.

40:43 You just have to do well. Exactly. But yeah like be a good co-parent. That's it.

40:47 I don't like you. I hate you actually. But like loves that. You better pay show up. you know, all the days and all that stuff.

40:56 Yeah. No, I'd rather co-arent than have to sleep with him again. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh, I'm so once that's done, it's like I'm so icked out.

41:07 Like, kill me. Repulse. Don't touch me. You know what? It's so funny. Like, your sister obviously is a blessing here.

41:17 Oh my god. Huge. You know, so you have that backpack, backbone whatever. really really really

41:33 to prove himself because you always know what you felt with him during this time. So like he's going to really have to turn a corner which is like kind of hard for guys.

41:46 I know. Especially like his stance that he made. I overreacted. You're taking your mom's side. Like, [sighs and gasps]

41:56 sucks. I know. Because it seems like he's just a goner. He's a goner. It would be very hard to come back from this. I don't know. Like, he would definitely he would have to move mountains. And I mean, for me, it seems like he's very attached to his mom. Like, you guys are

42:13 marry her. You guys are your mom. Literally, I think some of these people should and some of the moms would they'd want that. They would love to marry their sons.

42:21 Some of the boy mom content that's online. Like I'm like, you actually recorded that, edited that.

42:27 Yeah. Watched it back again, and then posted that. Yeah. You're in love with your son. You're sick. Yeah.

42:33 Like, oh my god, it's disgusting. I don't know. Like, he needs to cut his umbilical cord from his mom. Like, something's got to give. But this post is a year old. We have no further updates.

42:48 What? I thought you said seven months ago. This one's a year old. Oh my god. So, she's had the baby.

42:55 Jesus Christ. If you're out there, please. We need another. We're like so invested.

43:01 Where are you? Did he come around? What happened? God bless the sister. That's all I'll say.

43:08 I know. I know what it's like to have a sister to fall back on. And damn. Like, that's very lucky.

43:14 Huge. I mean, having that village when your partner, she could have nothing. She could still be in that with that guy.

43:23 God forsaken mom. I know. Horrible. Horrible. But moving along to this next God bless you and the child.

43:31 Give me an update. Yeah, we need an update now. Come back. Okay, this next one.

43:36 Yeah. coming from Am I the [ __ ] Titled, "Am I the [ __ ] for not complimenting my wife so that she won't become vain?"

43:46 Vain. Mhm. Weird word. My wife, 29, female, and I, 31, male, have been together for 10 years. We have three children, 9, 7, and 5. My wife was never someone to really dress up or put that much thought in her looks. She's always been beautiful, but never did much to highlight it until recently. She went through this crisis of feeling like she didn't have a personality outside of being a mom, something like that. So, for the last 2 years, she started traveling more, joining different groups, dressing really nicely, wearing makeup. I never realized how much of a difference it would make, but people treat her completely different. She is constantly getting complimented, told that she should be in magazines. She'll come home and happily tell me about the random stranger who was so nice to her.

44:38 She'll randomly get gifts. Lady at her job brought her a book series she was even interested in. She gets hit on. When we go out, all these dudes want to buy her drinks. Even my family has noticed. And all of a sudden, it seems like they're wondering how I ended up with her. Honestly, it's a bit overwhelming for me and something I'm just not used to. It's kind of become annoying. Anyways, she was going out with friends and she asked me how she looked. I said, "Fine." She seemed disappointed with this. My sister was over and commented that I should hype her up. I said, "Why? Why should I do that when the world already does?

45:24 That I don't want her thinking too highly of herself and becoming more vain. You're a [ __ ] I hate this man.

45:33 My sister looked shocked and said that's [ __ ] up. It is. Said that's low-key abusive and that I'm an [ __ ]

45:42 Yes. I think she's overthinking it, but I decided to get some outside opinions. So, am I the [ __ ] You're an [ __ ] You're a [ __ ] You're a [ __ ] You have been with this woman for 10 years. You said

45:55 10 [ __ ] years. She gave him three kids. She's hot as hell now. Step up. You get hot, too. Stop being insecure. Stop trying to put her down. How do I look? Fine, girl. You know that she looks [ __ ] bomb as [ __ ] You're a [ __ ]

46:13 Fine. He's trying to take her confidence down. He's trying to bring it back to his level.

46:18 He's trying to humble her. She doesn't Oh my god. Even the Even the family notices that she's more confident, more sexy, more whatever.

46:29 Too good for him. She's too good for him. Girl, step up or get away from her cuz she doesn't deserve that. Like I hate you.

46:40 Hate him. I can't stand this. It's just like so toxic. so insecure and it's not his job to humble her. I It's like why? Yeah. Why don't you step up? Like you're watching her.

46:55 Yeah. Like oh my god, she's so hot. She's Yeah. You You can't step up. Exactly. Like what you said. Yeah.

47:02 Well, and it's it's really annoying because I think a lot of like moms go through that where they're like, I don't know who I am outside of being a mom. Like she's got three kids, nine, seven, and five. They're finally at ages where they're a little more self- sustaining. They're all in school and so she's finding herself again after maybe being a stay-at-home mom and that being all she had,

47:25 right? And that is a lot. That's such a big burden. So now she's like she's traveling a bit. She's joining different groups. She's dressing up and you're threatened. So you're going to then take her back down,

47:36 right? She outgrew you. Clearly she is. Yeah. Like and that is that's life. like you grow constantly with a partner. So, it's like why are you not trying to grow? Why are you not traveling with her? Why are you not going to events or a hobby or that? Like, why aren't you stepping up?

47:54 I hate this kind of man. I hate it. It's so insane. He should be clapping for her, taking her photos. Oh my god. Like, look at you. Power mom, three kids. This is our life.

48:07 My jaw is just dropped, you guys. Like, I'm just like I'm I'm just slack jaw. Like, I just like don't know what to think.

48:13 It's sad. I mean, you carry you carry three kids. I can't even imagine having one child, let alone having three and then leveling up afterwards. Like,

48:23 well, she's got four. This woman is a superhero. Like, you carry one child, lazy ass,

48:30 and then don't put me down. How dare you? And he gets to reap the rewards. Like, you get a hot ass wife who's cultured and interesting and fun. Yeah, you're going to make me feel bad for being amazing. Like, I am too good for you.

48:47 My family is right. And she's going to start to realize it the more you act like that.

48:52 She should. I mean, this guy. This guy. He needs a reality check. He sure does.

48:57 Hardcore. Comments do give it to him. Yeah. Okay. Here. Let's hear what's here.

49:02 Overall vote, [ __ ] Luckily, top comment, you're the [ __ ] dude. If your wife doesn't think or know or hear you express that you think she's beautiful, then what's going to stop her from leaving you for someone who does tell her that she's beautiful and treats her wonderfully? Your wife is beautiful and you thought she was great even without all the makeup and the new style and the new interest. Now that she has all of those things and what you feel left behind, do you take

49:29 You're in the mix though. You're not left behind. Like you probably sleep next to her every single day. Like you're losing it.

49:38 You're not a pity invite. Like she's she chose to go through life with you. Exactly. Like if she went away for the weekend with a girlfriend or whatever, you'd be like, "She left me." Like would you appreciate her more?

49:49 I know. Like you're writing in because she's hotter than you now. I don't know how he thought he was going to get

49:56 sympathy from this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The comment goes on to say, "Do you take any interest in her new interest, travel at all with her? What are you doing to make sure your wife feels seen? Or are you just bitter that she is finally realizing how beautiful and interesting and worthy of all of this friendship and kindness from others and wondering where you stand in all of this? I think she's awesome for taking charge of herself and her life. She didn't feel like she was seen or acknowledged as anything other than mom.

50:25 And did you do anything to make her feel like she was loved? A beautiful wife like she is. And she endeavored to change that. And it's bearing beautiful fruit. Your wife is awesome.

50:37 Are they in the room with us? That person know who just wrote that? Honestly, he needs to [ __ ] off. Get into it or get lost. Honestly, cuz she's put up with enough.

50:47 I know a lot of you are the [ __ ] A lot of people being like, "Great strategy, dude. Treat her as if she doesn't matter and you don't see her as attractive so she can constantly be reminded that there are other people out there who do care about her and do find her attractive. Come back in a year or so and let us know how it works out. In the meantime, think about how you want the custody arrangements to work.

51:09 Oh god, you're totally the [ __ ] I mean, how could you not? Like, come on, girl. Look in the mirror.

51:17 I know. I know. There are a couple comments from OP. Basically, he says, "I'm just saying too many compliments can go to someone's head. I don't think she needs that."

51:28 I mean, okay, I get it. Like, sometimes even like with a friend or something, you're like, "Oh, people are blowing too much smoke up their ass. Like, they need to be humbled." But she's had three of your children. That's your person. like you should want to amp them up even if they're getting too much. The only reason that I would see that that wouldn't be acceptable is if she was like acting like a [ __ ] or like treating him like [ __ ] being like anyways whatever like over you.

52:00 No, but it doesn't seem like that. No. Like I would want to build her up beyond. And the more compliments she got the better. I'd be like yes like you're everything.

52:10 I know. You know he's very threatened. I mean, he tries to brush it off in other comments. Like, I just don't want her becoming a person that only cares about looks, constantly trying to look her best. I don't want her seeking validation via compliments. I don't want her to become one of those girls that seeks validation or is fishing for compliments. He just keeps responding the same [ __ ] back to people again and again. There's multiple comments of him saying, "I don't want her to seek validation." Guess what? Everyone likes to be complimented.

52:40 Everyone likes to like be recognized here and there for whatever it is. Dressing up one day, their accomplishments, being kind. It It feels [ __ ] nice. Everyone likes their horn tooted here and there.

52:54 Exactly. Beep beep. You know what? It kind of Beep beep, [ __ ] It kind of feels like he liked her fat and pregnant.

53:05 I think he And maybe that's a control thing. Hello. Maybe that is a control thing. Like

53:11 now she's hot. She's got kind of like, you know, little gas in her system. She's feeling great.

53:15 Yeah, he's definitely. He's like, "Too hot. You're too hot. You look too good. I'm nervous I'm going to lose you."

53:22 Cuz now I'm old and fat. Dad, Bob. Yeah. Get in the [ __ ] gym if you're nervous about her.

53:29 You know what worries me about him, too? Because of how deeply insecure he is. He's someone that maybe this is a reach you guys, but I feel like he could be one of those people that like has an affair as retaliation

53:44 to try to like stick it to her. Yeah. Or like he's not feeling good about himself cuz his wife is so much hotter and then he's going to go find someone who does make him feel hot. Like he's he [sighs] I just I worry about him. Oh, I worry about her.

54:00 More so her stuck with him. Yes. And like girl, like we gota we really got to sort this out. Like

54:08 he is you're you're living with enemy number one and that's hard. Ain't that the truth?

54:16 Yeah. Like you used to be in love. We used to have all the fun in the world and now you are my number one fan club hater.

54:25 Yeah. Husband is your biggest hater. So look at that. You know that sucks. You want to live with someone that compliments you more than anyone else.

54:35 Yeah. And he's telling you that you're getting complimented too much. Yeah. You look fine. Fine. Just fine.

54:42 Okay. Okay. Bye. Um, we don't have an update. It's 2 years old. I think he got reprimanded a decent amount and never came back.

54:53 I hope so. I really hope so. We got nothing. But, you know, maybe she'll see this and be like, "Yeah, this kind of rings a bell."

55:02 I hope so. Divorce. Yes. Get it, you hot [ __ ] Mom of three. Or you could You're living the dream.

55:09 That's insane. You don't need any haters in your corner whatsoever. No. Yeah. No. This um this next one, I can't tell if it's a hater or what's going on here. I'm going to need your help.

55:20 Yeah. Okay. This is also coming from Amma the [ __ ] titled Amma the [ __ ] for walking out of my boyfriend's birthday dinner after the comment his dad made about my age. Apologies accidentally deleted the first one. Going to dive right in. I, female 36, met my boyfriend, male 38 months ago. He waited to introduce me to his parents and decided that I'd meet them on his 36th birthday party that was held at their house. Not going to lie, I was nervous about a number of things. I'm over 30, but I can still get anxious. I'm an introvert. Yay. Around new people. We got to their house. There were more guests there than I thought. Like a lot more. When we sat down for dinner, his dad looked at me head to toe and said, "Oh, godamn. I thought you would look a lot older than you do. You've still got a good 10 years of sex kitten left in you."

56:17 Ew. Ew. Ew, ew, ew. I was shocked, completely baffled. The whole table went quiet, and I couldn't even look around, but I knew that they were staring at me awkwardly.

56:28 Mhm. My boyfriend and his dad were laughing hard. It got so overwhelming for me, I excused myself, got up, took my stuff, and started making my way out. My boyfriend followed me while asking where I was going and why. I stood at the door and pointed out his dad's comment about my age. He said that his dad is just like that, brutally honest and tells it like it is, and so I shouldn't take it personal. I told him it was personal because it felt like he was rating me and my functions as a human based on age. He was like, "Come on, do you always have to be so dramatic? Let it go. It was nothing." He told me to go back inside, but I decided to go home.

57:16 He was livid. He sent angry texts talking about how disappointed he and his family were by how I walked out and disrespected them and gave them the wrong impression about me. He also said I ruined his birthday and overreacted to nothing.

57:33 What a [ __ ] And I should have just laughed it off. He's demanding that I reach out to his family with apologies

57:39 and make it up to him. Mm-m. Am I the [ __ ] Did I overreact? Um, yeah, you're the [ __ ] Just kidding. No, you're not. I think that there's a kind of girl that could take this from a dad and her boyfriend. Clearly, you are not meant to be in this family.

57:58 Yeah. I That would just gross me out. Like I don't want your dad. But some girlfriends like get off on that. You know what I mean? Like it's like

58:06 your dad thinks I'm hot, huh? Yeah. It's like fun. Like Oh yeah. like I'm hotter than my age, whatever, but like clearly you can't take it and this is not the family for you.

58:17 No. And that's okay. Like I wouldn't want this energy. I wouldn't either, but some girls like like that.

58:23 Yeah. I would never like good for you for leaving. Yeah. And standing your ground again, like holding that boundary of like

58:31 behavior you're willing to put up with. And like that's unacceptable behavior. So I'm removing myself. That's that's my

58:37 And you know what? You know what pissed me off about that, too? Why do you always have to be so dramatic? I've known you for months, right?

58:46 Months. Always so dramatic. And you brought me into a situation where I was so pressured and then demeaned me.

58:53 Mhm. Like sexualized me in a way. Yeah. That I had to leave. Like that's shitty. Well, and I think it's like even more so apparent and important like to highlight this like she's 36. She's not 86. She's not 96. Like she's 36. And so the fact that like he's he is tying her looks and all of this to like oh you're 36.

59:18 Wow. I thought you'd look a lot worse. Wow. Like what the [ __ ] I'm not dead. Mhm.

59:25 I'm 36. Like come on. They need prison. That whole family needs prison. I just like the monkeys and like flying monkey mentality of like people running and like you need to apologize to them. I'm not saying anything to them.

59:40 No, he needs to apologize to me. That was uncomfortable. Absolutely. Top comment on this one. Not the [ __ ] His dad called you a sex kitten.

59:52 Wait, he did? That's Did I miss that part? Dad looked at her and said, "You've still got a good 10 years of sex kitten left in you."

1:00:04 I to actually throw up. That's disgusting. Sex kitten. And the the boyfriend took the dad's side.

1:00:12 Oh, he was laughing really hard. That is so sick. That dad is manipulative and has like a

1:00:20 He's like one of those pervy joke dads. Like you've been around one or two. I feel like everyone has. And they just like constantly make sexual jokes and it's just like

1:00:29 they think it's fun. This is enough. Yeah. Oh my god. Thank god you weren't like touched or anything cuz I feel like that dad would like take it to like

1:00:35 Oh, under the table little hand. Exactly. I like how to look up sex kitten. I'm just like what? I've never like heard that used.

1:00:44 It gives like stripper vibes. Sex kitten. Like woman of the night. It's very like it's definitely an older term, I think, but it's a young woman who asserts or exploits her sexual attractiveness.

1:00:58 Yeah, he [ __ ] wishes that she would. She's just existing. Just chilling. Yeah, I'm I'm here. I was invited to a birthday party, which is also a lot, don't you think?

1:01:09 To meet them for the first time. Yeah. Not like an intimate gathering. No, like there was a lot of people there. And like she's an introvert. I get that.

1:01:16 Very insensitive. I like I just no like it should have been more one-on-one and like easygoing and

1:01:22 even if you were with him for like 5 years let's say to go to like everyone there is a lot.

1:01:29 Yeah. Like that's intimidating. It is. And like the way he drew attention to her like oh you sex kitten. The comment goes on to be like his dad called you a sex kitten and then they bold this an aging sex kitten. I also I'm so sorry I keep saying kitten weird. I'm sorry you guys.

1:01:48 Ken ken. Everyone's going to be like, "What the fuck?" I didn't notice till you brought it up.

1:01:52 I'm like, "Why am I saying that?" I just learned I said like hammock. Hammock. Hammock weird the other day. I'm like, "I don't

1:01:58 You said hammock." I said hammock on accident. Really? Yeah. Sometimes I read too fast and I just like don't know what I'm saying.

1:02:03 Oh, I think it's cute. I like it. Hammock. Hammock. Hammock. But yeah, like he's literally being like Yeah. You still got a little time left in you, girl. Girl, what how much time do you have in you, sir?

1:02:17 One foot in the Don't [ __ ] comment on me. Yeah, don't comment on my looks, sicko.

1:02:22 What about your wife? What? Like, what about your wife? Yeah, right. Like, that's so uncomfortable.

1:02:29 Why are you saying this [ __ ] to me? Yeah. No, he needs to be put in his place. I'm very happy that she left.

1:02:34 I know. Um, but it seems like the son is in no place for a relationship. No. nor is his family. She doesn't deserve those as her in-laws.

1:02:45 No. And a lot of people are pointing out like the apple didn't fall far from the tree and you throw it far away. Like basically being like if those are your in-laws and he's okay with it, he's laughing. Like you're kind of getting a good preview,

1:02:58 right? Exactly. Like if you go into this relationship, you're going to this is going to be your life.

1:03:02 Yeah. GH. So there's one comment here from OP that is worth reading. Someone goes, "Not the [ __ ] This is how it will always be with his family. He thinks it's funny, so he will also be like this. I would break up and find someone more respectful.

1:03:17 Mhm. And OP goes, I'm afraid of this becoming the norm, especially with how he said that his dad is always like this. [snorts]

1:03:26 Yeah. I mean, can change people. No. Sucks. No, but I I feel like I hope she doesn't really love this guy.

1:03:34 No, I think based on that comment, I I saw a breakup in the future. I hope so. We don't know for sure. There's no update.

1:03:41 I pray that this girl gets better in her life cuz this is terrible. No one to wake up every day knowing that this is going to be your life.

1:03:50 No. And it wouldn't have been the biggest deal if he would have stood by her side. And if he would have been like, "Yeah, my dad was alive.

1:03:56 Shut up. Dad, enough. Too much." But like he didn't back you up. He made it worse. Demonstrated it's okay. And you kind of got a glimpse

1:04:07 that she never have really loved him and it was just a boyfriend fling thing. A fling

1:04:12 cuz that would suck. A fleeting thing cuz she will end up leaving him if she hasn't already, right?

1:04:19 I could see it. Yeah, I could see it. Okay, I'm going to give you a choice on this next one.

1:04:24 Okay. Okay. Option number one. Am I the [ __ ] for telling my husband he can't have his ex at our baby shower even though they're still friends? Or am I overreacting for telling my boyfriend I won't be his free photographer anymore and sending him a rate sheet?

1:04:46 Okay. Um charging your boyfriend? You're the [ __ ] Okay, let's see. I don't know.

1:04:55 Has to be What do you think? What do you think? I think you you're going to get the context. And I think uh

1:05:00 Come on. Okay. You ready? Yeah. What was the first one again? I'll just give it to you both. That'll be That'll be

1:05:08 That'll be number two. We'll end with that one. The second one was more shocking.

1:05:11 Okay. I I You're charging your boyfriend. You're going to love What are you going to charge him for him for going down on you? Like Like what? You guys are in a relationship.

1:05:23 You're going to love this. Okay. I'm 26 female and my boyfriend is 28 male and trying to build a fitness page. When we started dating, it was cute. I'd hold the phone while he filmed deadlifts, pick a song, and we'd laugh at the outtakes. In the last months, it has turned into a whole operation. He texts me at 6:50 a.m. Golden hour, question mark, and expects me outside with a tripod, two shirts, his shaker, and a towel. M Saturdays I'm at the park squatting in weird angles so his jawline looks sharp. Sundays I'm in our hallway editing on Cap Cut while he plays ranked. I don't even like being on camera, but people in the comments keep calling me camera girl like that's my name. [sighs and gasps] I missed brunch once because he needed a second take in the stairwell. The neighbor walked by and I wanted to evaporate. I tried to set limits. I said one session a week. He heard daily. I asked him to learn the basics so he

1:06:29 could run it solo. He said my hands are steadier and my eye is better. Last week he booked a brand shoot with a small supplement shop. He told them we could deliver 15 reels and 40 photos. We as in

1:06:45 hate this guy. Hate him. Hate him. Dead death. Prison. We as in me. the unpaid department of everything. They gave him six tubs of preworkout as payment. I'm allergic to caffeine and still ended up scrubbing chalk dust off my leggings for 2 hours.

1:07:06 Poor girl. She must really love him. That night, he casually asked if I could stay up to color grade.

1:07:14 No, it's just sliders, babe. I snapped. I told him I'm done being free labor. that I'm happy to help sometimes like a normal partner, but not manage your content calendar. I made a simple rate sheet. $35 per hour filming, 20 per hour editing, plus a cap at 4 hours a week. I sent it to him so it's clear and we don't fight. He got really pissed.

1:07:40 Mhm. And said I'm sabotaging his dream and making our relationship transactional. He says real couples support each other. What the [ __ ] are you doing for me?

1:07:51 And that if he had a big exam, I'd want him to quiz me. I said quizzing is 20 minutes, not a second job.

1:07:58 Mhm. Now he's giving me short replies and filming with a friend who DM'd me. Dang, you went corporate. Did I overreact by putting a price and boundaries on something that started as a favor?

1:08:11 I think that you actually underreacted. And I You know what? You can either you can What's that saying? You lead a horse to water.

1:08:21 Force them to drink. Yeah. Exactly. Like [ __ ] if this is your hobby, your dream, your whatever destiny, you can learn how to edit and shoot yourself. It's not hard.

1:08:35 Like I could teach you in two hours. And I'm sure that she could, too. I could put you through a boot camp.

1:08:40 Exactly. Like, let's do there's so much free [ __ ] on YouTube and Tik Tok showing you how to edit and use Cap Cut.

1:08:47 Yeah, he's abusive. And her I mean, even getting to the point of doing a spreadsheet of of costs,

1:08:54 oh my god, is a lot. Like, that takes time. It does. And I feel like she should have been like, I'm not doing this for you anymore. We're going to hire you somebody or you're going to learn yourself.

1:09:04 Go on Fiverr. Go on Upwork. Go look at other people's rates. Yeah, she was pretty competitive. Those are good rates.

1:09:11 I thought so, too. $20 an hour for editing, but not my boyfriend who I'm seeing all the time. You know what I mean? Like, uh,

1:09:20 and he's just like walking all over her and like, oh, if I got a text at 6:50 a.m.

1:09:25 Golden hour. And I was expected to bring a tripod and your shaker blender for your your protein shake or your pre-workout. No.

1:09:33 No. He's a [ __ ] Find somebody that you can pay for all that. Well, I don't Not your girlfriend. Like, that's not romantic.

1:09:41 No. And his buddy's not going to do it for free. Mhm. I can't imagine his buddy does it for free.

1:09:46 No, he's abusing her. And the fact, this was so crazy to me. 15 reels and 40 photos and all he got was six tubs of pre-workout.

1:09:58 Was that all he got, though? In the back of my mind, I was like, you think he was

1:10:03 Was that all he got? Maybe a little something else under the table. Mhm. Not cutting her in.

1:10:08 Oh, he clearly does not respect her. Like, he's not going to cut her into anything.

1:10:13 No. [ __ ] that guy. Hate him. Top comment. Nope. Didn't overreact. Bro wants a free employee, but is trying to frame it as a supportive partner, which is very manipulative.

1:10:28 It's so abusive. Like, you're not [clears throat] What's your goal? Is he supporting you? Probably not.

1:10:34 I know. He tried to like play it off like oh the quiz thing like like I would help you.

1:10:40 Yeah. And so I'm I'm kind of It's not equal though. He's like very narcissistic.

1:10:45 A bunch of free labor editing. Like that is that's a career for people. That is like a lot of work for people.

1:10:51 Do it yourself. Like it's really not that hard. I think a lot of the best creators and a lot of the best like people out there started on their own. They learned how to do it from the ground up and like that has also helped in their success.

1:11:05 So, learn how to do it. You know what? Also, not to be crazy, but know your worth. You are this man's career.

1:11:14 I mean, you're the whole reason he has content. Exactly. He's abusing you to do [ __ ] for free. You're like, I should be getting paid for this. Like, no.

1:11:23 No. And the fact that he should be offering to pay for this. Yeah. And the fact that you keep getting called camera girl,

1:11:30 that would piss me off. I would be so resentful. Like it's Morgan, [ __ ] Exactly.

1:11:36 Come on. Or like maybe I don't even know what a camera is anymore. Oh, oops. Forgot.

1:11:42 What's What's that button do? I don't have Final Cut anymore. Or Cap Cut. Sorry, it deleted. I have no idea what to do.

1:11:50 My phone doesn't allow me to have that. Figure it out. Yeah. How strange. So weird.

1:11:54 There's no update. It's only 9 days old. Oh, send back. So, let us know. It's very fresh. Very fresh. So, maybe we'll see a little something something soon.

1:12:06 I hope so. But until then, [ __ ] that guy. That's all we got. That's all we got. But here we go. Our other juicy one. I teased you. So, this is titled, "Am I the [ __ ] for telling my husband that he cannot have his ex at our baby shower even though they're still friends? I, 27 female, am pregnant with our first child. My husband, 30 male, is still friendly with his ex-girlfriend, 31 female. I don't mind that she's in his friend group, but when we were planning the baby shower, he casually said, "We should invite her, too. She's part of our crew." I told him I'd be uncomfortable. He said I was being territorial and insecure and that not everything's about jealousy.

1:12:54 Oh god, it's not jealousy. It's just weird to have the woman he used to love at my baby shower. He told me if I start excluding people for feelings, I'll drive everyone away. Now he's sulking and saying I made things awkward. Am I the [ __ ] for saying no?

1:13:15 No. Um. Oh god, I have so many feelings. Let him out. I think that he is in love with her.

1:13:25 Something's still going on. Mhm. I see a comment here that I really really love.

1:13:32 What do you What do you think? I think he's like harboring feelings. Like I I understand still having that friend group and like she's in the friend group. So, like there's group hang.

1:13:43 Yeah. But this isn't a group hang. This is your intimate baby shower. You're celebrating your love and this little bundle of joy you created. What does it have to do with your ex?

1:13:55 Exactly. Why do you want someone Why are you fighting for her to be there to [ __ ] that?

1:13:59 Like, if I say no, then it's a no. Like, it's not a bigger issue. Like, I said no.

1:14:06 What if you said no? What am I going to fight for? I'd be like "Okay." What if you wanted your ex there?

1:14:12 Exactly. Would you be okay with someone I used to be intimate with and sleep with?

1:14:16 Love. Love. Yeah. Exactly. Like, no. That's it. Period. She needs to be here. Why?

1:14:23 Yeah. Top comment. I'd ask him why her presence means more to him than your comfort.

1:14:30 He hates you. He He loves her. He hates you. He doesn't respect you. I just don't understand how he's like, "If you're going to start excluding people for feelings, you're going to drive everyone away." What does that even mean?

1:14:42 It's like trying to drive you into the dirt for your feelings. Like a simple feeling of one person. Like I would rather be alone.

1:14:50 Honestly, fine. Yeah. Exactly. Also, who It's like It seems like this is the only person.

1:14:55 Yeah. And it's because this was an ex that you loved. What are your feelings on staying in contact with exes? Like how many have you had? Um, I'd say like three big ones.

1:15:08 Oh, how many like relationships in total? Like I Well, it's like you have like those awkward situationships. I'm like you could count those.

1:15:16 But true like boyfriend, girlfriend. Three big ones. Okay. Three big ones. And do you still talk to any exes?

1:15:26 Okay. Four big ones. Okay. She forgot about one. I sit there. I'm like, wait. I was starting to think um there's one that like I'm friends with. We don't talk. If I run into him when I'm back home in Minnesota, we're very cordial.

1:15:40 Um he was just someone that like I was able to lean on after another like bad breakup and we'd go golfing and just like hang out. So we were actually friends after. Like he we had there was so much distance. We had both dated other people.

1:15:55 But like I don't reach out to them. I don't talk to them. I wouldn't I wouldn't do that. No. And like my like my husband wouldn't care. Like I've told him like, "Oh yeah, I texted Dave because I had a funny story that, you know, related on the podcast."

1:16:11 And he's like, "That's that's hilarious." But like I would never be like, "Oh, I want my ex at our baby shower or I didn't invite any exes to our wedding." Like I

1:16:19 I wouldn't cross lines. You know what? Also, like I'm just thinking about this like a little bit deeper now. I feel like for him to say like, "No, no, no. She should be at our baby shower." It's not all him that's the issue cuz like it must be coming at him from her too.

1:16:35 Like we're having a baby shower. We're pregnant. She's like, "Well, I want to go."

1:16:39 And then he's like defending her, trying to fight for her with his wife, being like, "No, no, she needs to be there." Because she's being like, "Why wouldn't I not be invited?"

1:16:50 That's so true. You know what I mean? Like she's the problem, too. It's like he's weak. I wonder if she's in the background being like, "Oh my god, I'm so excited I get to come."

1:17:00 But yeah, him not like being able to say like, "Oh, you know, you're not invited."

1:17:05 I know. Do you think there's a world where like I mean obviously mom like OP isn't comfortable, but like you know, for some people this might not be a big issue. Some people might be fine with their ex and like this friendship thing. Like I don't know. I'm like, is there a world where this isn't weird?

1:17:24 I don't know. Just goes back to what we were saying, the gut thing. Like if you feel like this is freaking weird.

1:17:31 It's freaking weird. I know. But like maybe try to play it cool and like, you know, let her come and see what the vibe is.

1:17:38 Is she with anybody right now? Yeah. See how he acts around her? That's really true. And I guess how does she make you feel? Because I guess by not inviting her, it doesn't seem like things are like super great. Like, is this an ex that is still a little too comfortable with him when you guys are all hanging out in a friend group? Yeah, you guys are married, but she's still touching his arm very affectionately and

1:18:02 prison. Inside jokes hate inside jokes like that. Like, shut the [ __ ] up. What's the vibe?

1:18:09 Yeah. Are they genuinely just friends now and happen to be in the same crew still? Or

1:18:13 she needs to be respectful and know her place in line. I'm very curious what the dynamic is there.

1:18:18 Yeah. Cuz if she comes to the baby shower, say she is invited, whatever, and she like is trying to be like territorial or whatever, like girl, bye.

1:18:25 You are never seeing my face again. No, that ship has sailed. But a lot of people in the comments are speculating like, "Hey, is there any chance they broke up over the issue of having a child?"

1:18:37 Like people are like, "That's kind of why he wants to invite her. Maybe he feels bad they couldn't have a baby." And he's just like,

1:18:43 "I didn't even think about that." I mean, it didn't cross my mind. And I usually go down the rabbit hole very quickly.

1:18:48 Gag, I know a lot of people are speculating about it. Like maybe the question of a child was what broke them up. It's bad form to have your ex at the celebration of your wife's baby shower. He seems bent on having the ex there. I want to know why.

1:19:03 Yeah. I just guy respect your baby mama and your future child. Yeah. Come on. Well, and like what's your intention? And like I think that top comment where it's like why do her feelings matter more than mine where it's like why what's your intention there? What are you trying

1:19:21 even is this conversation like why are we even like even having a quote unquote fight about this?

1:19:26 Why wasn't it just like okay I respect that. Yeah. I said no. It's a no. Hear you babe. Love you. We'll have a good shower.

1:19:34 Exactly. Like choose your battles. I know. Very odd. Very odd. It makes me think there's something else going on.

1:19:41 I would agree. um you know, hate the girl, hate the guy. I just immediately go to hate.

1:19:48 I mean, it's a strong feeling. It's easy to just like instantly be enraged. It's like I just I can't stand them.

1:19:53 Be there for her like Yeah. Come on. Bare minimum. Bare minimum. She literally like bow down to her.

1:20:01 I know. So, this post it's coming from um our comfort level pod has quite a few comments, 1.4K 4K up votes. But I think the person started to get maybe a little overwhelmed with the feedback they were getting because they did delete their post. They even went so far as to delete their whole Reddit account.

1:20:21 Oh my god. So, we don't have any updates. We don't have any comments from them. So, maybe the comments are giving them thoughts and that you like that it's a little scary cuz like you go to Reddit and you're like, "Maybe I am overreacting."

1:20:33 Okay. And then people are like, "You're not overreacting. Your husband sucks." Like, blah blah blah. And then you're like,

1:20:38 too much. Too real. Yeah. Too real. Like, is something going on? And I'm sure that's like she's pregnant. Like, I would spiral. Like, what the [ __ ] going on?

1:20:46 Yeah. Hard not to. Hard not to. Yeah. That's all we got. That's the show, baby.

1:20:52 Blessed be. I really hope for this girl that she, you know, gets it together. I know. I would love an update on so many of these.

1:21:03 Yeah. Especially I mean honestly what I'm taking from my time here is that guys need to grow up.

1:21:09 Okay. And we just we've put up with too much. There's definitely there was a lot of people here dudes that need to get a reality check and just support the women. Like I know we have a lot of couples that like do listen together. And so like

1:21:25 you guys if you're listening to this show like you're one of the good ones but like encourage your friends. Be better. Do better. Don't be toxic. Support your partner.

1:21:34 Exactly. Like look inward, look outward. It's not all about your toxic masculinity. And um if I came off like really hateful during this

1:21:47 during this episode control now. I'm sorry. I know. Like I'm just thinking like the whole time I was like kill him, hate him, break up with him. Um

1:21:55 no, I gave you some like really horrible people. I mean the theme was ugly hearts. They had some ugly ass hearts. It

1:22:02 It was tough to even like for me to like step outside and be like, "Well, what if what if he's feeling this way?" Like, "No, hate him. He's a bitch."

1:22:11 Honestly, these ones did not need a devil's advocate. Like, they were just straight up the devil.

1:22:15 Yeah. Well, I hope that I hope that the people that wrote in heard this. I I'm going to send them the link. Be like "Hey hey

1:22:22 give me an update now. Updates, please." Oh my god. That's like the fun thing about this show. I feel like you just like wait for the updates.

1:22:31 I know. Well, I will be honest. I actually gave you more updates than I usually give my guests. I didn't want to like I realized I had um S from Impractical Jokers on a couple weeks ago and like I didn't realize how torturous it was for people to come on here and like not get an update. I'm so used to it. So, I really tried to give you a lot of updates today. I think that you should do that for a lot of guests, especially during the holiday season because it is like a Christmas miracle. Like, I can't imagine hearing this like crazy detrimental problem and not knowing

1:23:05 what happened, how they handled it. I know. Okay, I'll keep serving up the updates, guys. Gigi, where can people find you? I heard you have a podcast. You're back on your vlogs.

1:23:15 Yes. Oh, I'm I'm Gigi Gorgeous everywhere. G I G I G O R G E O U S. Um yeah, filming again. Doing all the things.

1:23:26 You know how it is. Your vlogs are really cute. Like really relatable. You're very open about everything you're going through in your life which

1:23:32 Thank you. I really appreciate. And you said something in one that I listened to and you're like, "I'm so bad with grief. I hate grief and loss." And I'm like,

1:23:39 "Same, same." So two peas in a pod. You're very relatable and your your content's amazing.

1:23:46 Oh my god. Thank you. Well, I love what you're what you do here. I think it's very relatable and very conversational and fun. And I mean, girl, whoever writes into this is getting the tea.

1:23:58 They are like the real honest review tea. I I think so. I mean, not to toot my own horn, but like I think so.

1:24:06 No, no, no. You're good. You're wellrounded. You're very like I I'm going to write in anonymously.

1:24:12 Oh, there we go. A little throwaway account. All of Gigi's links will be in the description. and go and check her out. I mean, the Graham, too. Oh my god, your Graham pictures. I'm like, teach me how to [ __ ] pose. So hot. But all in the description. Thank you so much for coming on. It's all I got, guys. Until next time. Bye.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Ugly Hearts.. Ft. Gigi Gorgeous || Reddit Stories || Two Hot Takes"?

Morgan (Host), Gigi Gorgeous (Guest).

What is "Ugly Hearts.. Ft. Gigi Gorgeous || Reddit Stories || Two Hot Takes" about?

The conversation features Morgan and Gigi Gorgeous discussing their youthful experiences with shoplifting, particularly of makeup and fashion items, highlighting Gigi's early YouTube career and their shared humorous anecdotes about their pasts. They also touch on Canadian snacks, particularly a playful debate over the divisive taste of ketchup chips.

What is mentioned in this Two Hot Takes episode?

6 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Gigi Gorgeous, Two Hot Takes, Ed Gein, Perfect Neighbor. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Ugly Hearts.. Ft. Gigi Gorgeous || Reddit Stories || Two Hot Takes"?

The episode runs 1 h 25 min; the transcript is about 16,036 words in 431 timestamped sections.

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