RHOSLC S613 : Agreek to Disagreek

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 10:00: Aunt Rita, Amazon Live, Amazon TV, Athena
2. 10:00 – 20:00: Aunt Rita, Bronwin, Angie Harmon, Days of Our Lives
3. 20:00 – 30:00: Santorini, Aunt Rita, Barbados, Carmen Electra
4. 30:00 – 40:00: Meredith Marks, Santorini
5. 40:00 – 50:00: Park Overall, FarmVille, Heather Gay, Pantheon
6. 50:00 – 1:00:00: Meredith Marks, Ronnie, Whopper
7. 1:00:00 – 1:10:00: Strangers with Candy, Lisa Barlo
8. 1:10:00 – 1:20:00: Bronwin, John Stamos, Lisa Barlo, Love It or Leave It
9. 1:20:00 – 1:30:00: Lisa Barlo, Bronwin, Kabuki, Wild Rose Beauty
10. 1:30:00 – 1:40:00: Santorini, Birkenstocks, Bronwin, evil eye
11. 1:40:00 – 1:50:00: Bronwin, Crazy Rich Asians, Heather Gay, Judge Judy
12. 1:50:00 – 1:55:24: Heather Gay, Crap Is On Demand, Mormonism

Notable quotes from "RHOSLC S613 : Agreek to Disagreek"

• Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Happens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello you little Benjamuni tunes.

  about Ronnie · at 0:24

• Mhm. Yeah. So, we start off at Angie's house and her dad and Aunt Rita are there. We've never met Aunt Rita as far as I know. a little bit of Rita is all I need. As a great songwriter once sang.

  about Aunt Rita · at 3:51

• Meredith Marks and her easy breezy white blazer. oh well, I need to make sure I have some nice firm shoulder pads and a beautiful linen fabric for my easy breezy white blazer. All right, I.

  about Meredith Marks · at 15:04

• Me out of here. Get me out of here. Did you hear the rumor is that Todd that Bronwin is officially separating from Todd and she's announcing it at the reunion.

  about Bronwin · at 16:59

• Wanted to go. I've seen The Clash of the Titans and if Harry Hamlin is on the island of Santorini, I will not turn him down. Love that 40-year-old reference to a cult movie.

  about Santorini · at 21:00

• And people with Rolexes are He got the Heather Gay Rolex that they would just sell anybody a duty-free loser.

  about Heather Gay · at 41:53

• God, kind of makes me pine for the good old days when Heather was chasing Lisa Barlo around a yacht, accusing her of leaking stories to the media. And when Lisa denied it, she basically was saying that Lisa was a liar for denying it. So.

  about Lisa Barlo · at 1:00:35

• Back in 2000 when I was an intern on Strangers with Candy, the little cast, they gave like at the end of the season, they gave little gifts and they gave everyone bucket hats that said Strangers with Candy on it. And so it's this cool.

  about Strangers with Candy · at 1:04:52

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Bronwin — Person · 14 mentions · first at 17:04
• Angie Katsanevas — Person · 12 mentions
• Lisa Barlow — Person · 10 mentions
• Aunt Rita — Person · 9 mentions · first at 3:56
• Louis (Angie's dad) — Person · 8 mentions
• Mary Cosby — Person · 8 mentions
• Whitney Rose — Person · 7 mentions
• Bronwyn Newport — Person · 6 mentions
• Meredith Marks — Person · 4 mentions · first at 15:04
• Park Overall — Person · 4 mentions · first at 21:34
  I'm typing in is Park overall Greek.
• Heather Gay — Person · 4 mentions · first at 41:56
• Lisa Barlo — Person · 4 mentions · first at 1:00:38
• Master Dr. Shah — Person · 4 mentions
• Nikos — Person · 4 mentions
• Ronnie — Person · 3 mentions · first at 0:26
• Chloe Marks — Person · 3 mentions
• Dina Manoff — Person · 3 mentions
• John Stamos — Person · 2 mentions · first at 12:18
  Obviously, we all know John Stamos. Like obviously Tiffany Theon. Okay, Maria Manunos. Bob Kas. Bob Kas is obvious.
• Carmen Electra — Person · 2 mentions · first at 24:16
  Flags to walk out of the airport with. I'm just cringing so hard. I just imagine Electra at home like hiding her face under a pillow like why? Why, mother? Why?
• John Barlow — Person · 2 mentions
• Angie Harmon — Person · 1 mention · first at 12:37
  And Welsh descent. So I don't think that she's like hardcore Greek. Yeah, I'm going to give that Angie Harmon.
• Tommy Lee — Person · 1 mention · first at 12:45
  Definitely obvious that she's I feel like Suvari sounds like it could be a Greek last name. Surprising one. Tommy Lee.
• Kelly Clarkson — Person · 1 mention · first at 12:50
  Tommy Lee. Mhm. I think Kelly Clarkson is a surprising one.
• Harry Hamlin — Person · 1 mention · first at 21:01
  I've never been to Greece. Always wanted to go. I've seen The Clash of the Titans and if Harry Hamlin is on the island of Santorini, I will not turn him down. Love that 40-year-old reference to a cult movie.
• Richard Mulligan — Person · 1 mention · first at 22:29
  AI. Come on, AI. okay. Well, here's this. While the main casts of Empty Nest, like Richard Mulligan, Dynamov, Park Overall, wasn't Greek, there were Greek actors and characters…
• Ramona — Person · 1 mention · first at 1:30:24
  Ebony showed up and she had like a glam squad down remember in the basement like Ramona's basement or something. But like I you know as opposed to Beverly Hills where it's just…
• Judge Judy — Person · 1 mention · first at 1:46:35
  Yeah, it's like a little ridiculous that Heather plays judge Judy in every situation. She's You're the bad one. You did this. You're awful. And I'm a better friend to you. And it's why the [ __ ] are you judging her so.
• Dmitri Krano... (as stated: Dmitri Cranotakus) — Person · 1 mention
• Ebony — Person · 1 mention
• Lester Carbonell — Person · 1 mention
• Maria Menounos — Person · 1 mention
• Mena Suvari — Person · 1 mention
• Teresa Giudice — Person · 1 mention
• Tiffani Thiessen — Person · 1 mention
• Victor Kiriakis — Person · 1 mention

Books & papers

• Strangers with Candy — Book · 3 mentions · first at 1:04:54
• The Clash of the Titans — Book · 1 mention · first at 21:00
  Everyone gathers and Heather's I've never been to Greece. Always wanted to go. I've seen The Clash of the Titans and if Harry Hamlin is on the island of Santorini, I will not turn him down. Love that 40-year-old reference to a cult movie.
• Love It or Leave It — Book · 1 mention · first at 1:14:56
  Oh, it was Joe Rogan. And she just was on Love It or Leave It.
• Crazy Rich Asians — Book · 1 mention · first at 1:42:08
  Peace offering because if I do seem to remember, they gave many gifts in the feature film Crazy Rich Asians, which I did watch. And I think that's a nice thing. And if you don't think it's nice, then don't keep it. But it's up to you.
• Greece (musical/film) — Book · 1 mention
• Kramer vs. Kramer — Book · 1 mention

Companies & orgs

• Cartier — Company · 26 mentions
• Chiaparelli — Company · 3 mentions
• The Real Housewives of New York City — Company · 2 mentions
• Watch What Crappens — Company · 2 mentions
• Real Housewives of Salt Lake City — Company · 1 mention · first at 0:35
  Good everybody. Welcome. It is Real Housewives of Salt Lake City time everybody. Isn't that exciting? I love a Salt Lake City day.
• Amazon Live — Company · 1 mention · first at 1:35
  The past, which is still the future, but will be the past by crappy hour. We are doing Amazon Live every Monday now at 4 p.m. You can watch that via the link on our stream on…
• Days of Our Lives — Company · 1 mention · first at 12:10
  Her father. Of course. because her father is Victor Keryakis from Days of Our Lives. So yeah, I know he's Greek.
• Empty Nest — Company · 1 mention · first at 22:18
  Lester Carbonel, not Greek. Also not Greek. Is anyone from the 80s sitcom Empty Nest of Greek origin?
• The Golden Girls — Company · 1 mention · first at 22:33
  Nest, like Richard Mulligan, Dynamov, Park Overall, wasn't Greek, there were Greek actors and characters in the Golden Girls/mpt nest universe. Notably, I love that. The Golden…
• Wild Rose Beauty — Company · 1 mention · first at 1:28:04
  I want to I want to do this is my new visual presentation of what happened to Wild Rose Beauty.
• Crap Is On Demand — Company · 1 mention · first at 1:50:29
  Honestly, people need to get crap is on demand because to watch you ranting and raving right now while Beller's legs behind are stretching and doing some sort of like synchronized swimming over.
• The Real Housewives of Orange County — Company · 1 mention

Products & tech

• Cartier watch — Product · 11 mentions
• Prism — Product · 2 mentions
• Amazon TV — Product · 1 mention · first at 1:45
  On our stream on our link in bio on Instagram or you can watch it on your Amazon TV app. Whoa, crazy. Your Amazon Prime. Okay. So, you guys come see us.
• FarmVille — Product · 1 mention · first at 44:17
  With her new Cardier watch like from 2004 like Farmville.
• Whopper — Product · 1 mention · first at 50:38
  Number two for me, mainly cuz onion rings, like the onion rings do a lot of heavy lifting. I enjoy a Whopper with I love a Whopper with cheese. Burger King needs to up their bun game.
• Birkenstocks — Product · 1 mention · first at 1:35:03
  Yeah, exactly. I love that I got to explore parts of Santorini by myself cuz I found some killer Birkenstocks and there wasn't any negativity. You know what? I love a little me…
• Mac Tonight — Product · 1 mention
• Rao's — Product · 1 mention
• Werther's Original — Product · 1 mention

Concepts & topics

• Athena — Concept · 1 mention · first at 9:21
  Before? You'll like it. And he goes, I can't believe I'm going. It's the original sisterhood. Athena, Hira, Pphanie, Deer, all the original ladies.
• Kabuki — Concept · 1 mention · first at 1:29:05
  Trust all of your own glam. Anyway, look at Britney. Britney looks like she's doing Kabuki theater over there. She's got like a completely white face and then the rest of her is like tan.
• evil eye — Concept · 1 mention · first at 1:39:10
  It's a necklace. And you know what? It's scary because we all know what this means. This is an evil eye necklace. And anybody who watches Real Housewives of Orange County knows how dramatic this actually is.
• Mormonism — Concept · 1 mention · first at 1:54:10
  Ever having an opinion. I feel worse now than I did when I came to dinner cuz I've been victimized by Mormonism and Meredith. Ridiculous.
• Hera — Concept · 1 mention

Places & events

• Santorini — Place · 7 mentions · first at 21:03
• Barbados — Place · 2 mentions · first at 25:22
  Decides she want I don't know like she's comparing island sizes. She's Oh, so it's more like Barbados or Cadawan where we just were, right? And they show like these islands and…
• Olympus — Place · 1 mention · first at 9:30
  They were the original real housewives of Olympus. I'm surprised she actually did not make a joke like that. That's such a Heather joke as I said it.
• Pantheon — Place · 1 mention · first at 45:28
  This Cardier watch is literally from 2500 BC. It is they found it in the P parthonon and the Pantheon and the Acropolis [clears throat] in Athens, Sparta. and Brown says, This is the kind of petty I live for.
• Acropolis of Athens — Place · 1 mention
• Capri — Place · 1 mention
• Dallas Fort Worth International Airport — Place · 1 mention
• Parthenon — Place · 1 mention

Full transcript with timestamps

0:05 Welcome to Watch What Crains. To get our videos as soon as they're released instead of waiting for a week, head over to our Patreon. That's also where you'll find our bonus episodes and our Discord community. We love you guys. Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Happens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello you little Benjamuni tunes. How you doing?

0:32 Hi. Great. How are you doing? Good everybody. Welcome. It is Real Housewives of Salt Lake City time everybody. Isn't that exciting? I love a Salt Lake City day.

0:46 It's so exciting. We're We're already on our Greek trip. I feel like we just got back from the yacht trip. I mean, I feel like what we had like three episodes since the yacht and now we're back on now we're already headed out to our main, you know, uh, grand finale trip. It's wild.

1:05 Are they running out of public parks and freeway shoulders to use pieces in Salt Lake City? Do we just have to get out of town?

1:13 Um, well guys, Monday we have a double header coming up. We are going to be doing

1:18 crappy hour at 5:30 p.m. because we love it. It's going to be our last one for the year. Might have a surprise. Not sure. But for sure, it's going to be our last one of the year. So, join us for that. And then before that, go back into the past, which is still the future, but will be the past by crappy hour. We are doing Amazon Live every Monday now at 4 p.m. You can watch that um via the link on our stream on our link in bio on Instagram or you can watch it on your Amazon TV app. Whoa, crazy. Your Amazon Prime. Okay. So, you guys come see us.

1:53 We love doing those. We'll see you Monday. And then, of course, this week, we've still got 9 zillion recaps. So much goodness right now on Bravo. Our bounty is overflowing. There's so much bounty. You would think that we run a paper towel business.

2:10 Um, so do you have anything to say to start or do you want to just jump in? How do you feel?

2:16 Um, I feel good. I'm excited for crappy hour on Monday. Like you said, there may be some there may be something special. If you enjoy cooking, then I think you'll really enjoy this crappy hour. Um,

2:27 if you enjoy cooking and you are always concentrating on what your Roman empire is, you might enjoy this.

2:36 Do you think about the Roman Empire a lot? And do you also enjoy cooking? Maybe cookbooks. Um, we don't want to curse it. We don't want to curse it. But um anyway, the uh so I'm excited for that. I'm excited for I'm excited for a multitude multitude of things. I guess I'm excited to recap. I don't know. What do you want me to say? I don't know. I I don't know. I'm just feelings. Feel something. Can we just start the day with you feeling something? Why are you always yelling? Why are you always screaming?

3:06 We should just be like the Salt Lake City housewives. Guys, before we came on today, Ben screamed at me. He abused me. I've never cried so hard. Sorry, there's no proof, but he did it. Um, okay. So, we are here. It's called Greek for the week. We are season 6, episode 13. Let's watch Heather devolve more and more into her what? Psychosis. What would you call it? I'm starting to think Heather's just psycho at this point because it's like every single week. Why are we so worried about Meredith when you've got Heather literally every week screaming and blaming somebody for something crazy and taking other people's story lines? She's actually such a storyline stealer. Just get your own fights and your own story lines lady.

3:51 Mhm. Yeah. So, um we we start off at Angie's house and her dad and Aunt Rita are there. We've never met Aunt Rita as far as I know. Um, a little bit of Rita is all I need. As a great songwriter once sang

4:15 and you can't start mambo number five and not accept expect me to do that. Oh, I didn't know what you were doing.

4:29 Oh, you're doing like the bridge part. Yeah. A little bit of Sandra's on the side. A little bit of Mary. A little bit of Meredith on a plane. A little bit of Heather in the sisterhood.

4:44 A little bit of This was the worst six the six worst things that's ever happened to me in my life. A little bit

4:50 A little bit of Brun. Mhm. Mhm. Actually, not not me at all. No. No. I didn't I never said I was part of the song. Nope. Nope. Nope. Never sang this song. I don't know what you're talking about. What? They're all gaslighters on this show. I feel like all of I feel like 90% of them are gaslighting me all the time. But I like it.

5:09 Anybody who's ever seen my dating history knows that I love a gas lighter. Love it.

5:13 Yeah. Some Sometimes you need a little bit of light in your life. And if it happens to be a gas light, so be it.

5:18 They you know, they always like, "I'm sorry, we're giving you electric lighting." Like, "Damn it. It's like a stove." Like, "Damn it, nothing's going to be the same again. Where's the gas?"

5:27 Yeah. You know, I feel like 2015 it was all about love and light. 2025 it's all about love and gaslight. And that's where we are.

5:36 So, uh, Aunt Rita is the is here. And I'm like a little upset that it took us so long to meet Aunt Rita because I feel like I want long extended scenes with Aunt Rita. And

5:46 I think Aunt Rita is a [ __ ] poser and I want her off my screen. She's a [ __ ] [ __ ]

5:51 Just kidding. What if I just for Aunt Rita? No, I feel like she probably has some hot takes on things and she probably hates all the women except for Angie, of course. And I feel like she's disgusted by how slowly it takes for them to catch on to Greek. She's like, I've told you at once. That's enough.

6:08 Well, the Greek language, can I ask you a question? Yeah. Why is every word so long? I mean, they're like, how do you say hello? And they're like, it's like, what the hell? Why do you need a paragraph? Can what's high? Can just start with hi. Let's not even say hello. Just a hi. Abbreviate it. It's long. It's very long.

6:29 Well, I I have to say like German is also really long. And I feel like I don't know what's longer. Greek Greek words or German like if Well, cuz in Germany they love to just take words and just like mix it all together. Like if you want to say I'm going to like dry cleaner. I just looked up dry cleaner like I'm like what? It's like trucking rhy. I was like that's a lot for dry cleaner. Well, I think the Germans I know just, you know, they just use short words with me because they know I'm dense. So, I get like, you know, fat soul, which means run, you know, faster, fatty,

7:03 or well, I like that they have fat also. Or or just, you know, no is like nine. I feel like the German, I mean, the um Greek no is like, well, you know,

7:15 it's like very low. I just looked up I just looked up dry cleaner in Greek and that's stegnocatharistio. So that was also pretty long. Case closed.

7:26 Yeah. Well, the Greeks have been around a long time. Sucking a Rita. Just kidding.

7:32 Aunt Rita. Aunt Rita. Get a short get shorter words. Seriously, Aunt Rita. I guess they don't call it my my big skinny Greek wedding. Big fat because the letters the words are fat. The words are big words. my extremely long Greek wedding. Um I think that um Aunt Rita I will predict that she says this every time she comes to Angie's house to eat vegetables again. Salad. All we have is salad every time. Is this what we what Greek is? Salad only.

8:04 Can't we order Chinese? Like no. Time for more Greek food. Uh, so Heather and Mary come because um they're going to learn Greek words for their trip to Greek. So only some of the cast needs them. Andrey's like, I'm only inviting people that I actually like. So we'll have two people over to learn some Greek words.

8:29 Yes. So her dad is is Lewis, right? Lewis. Is it Louis? It's Lewis, not Louis right?

8:36 I don't know. you know, the name's confusing on purpose and I I refuse to play their game.

8:41 It is kind of annoying that like it's hard to know if someone's a Louiswis or a Louis because it's spelled the same way. Although, actually a lot of times Lewis is spelled L E W I S or in Greek it's has 10 more letters.

8:51 If he doesn't have the common decency to put the pronunciation in his Instagram bio, then he's not getting a proper, you know, request from me for pronunciation.

9:01 I'm going to call him Louise. be like, I'm I'm putting both together and now you'll be a Louise. Anyway, Lewis, I'm gonna say Lewis. Uh although I feel like I feel like a a Greek dad would be more like a Louis than a Louis. So, I'm going to say Louis. So, Louie says, "Have you ever been to Greece before? You'll like it." And he goes, "I can't believe I'm going. It's the original sisterhood. Athena, Hira, Pphanie, Deer, all the original ladies. They were the original real housewives of Olympus." I'm surprised she actually did not make a joke like that. That's such a Heather joke as I said it.

9:36 [clears throat] Since I'm applying for my Greek citizenship, I really want to take the ladies to see the most beautiful country with the most beautiful people and join me in being Greek for the week. Little Angie's This is like the moment that Angie's been waiting for her first like cash trip to Greece. And by the way, they all benefit. Angie's been doing the Greek the the Greek thing with the flags and the sunglasses for a while and they all benefit because now they all get to go to Greece, which honestly this is this looks like a beautiful trip. So um a week earlier at the colonial um founding fathers tea party thing that they did on a stage in a warehouse, Angie, we see Angie told everyone, "By the way, we are going to Greece." So that that's how we know that they really are going to Greece because she said it.

10:30 Do you think that um Greek people hate American Greek people? Do you think they resent them when they come and they're wearing their like flags and they're like, "Hey, there's my Greek friends. Look at me. I'm Greek." Do you think they're like, "Fuck off."

10:45 Yeah. I'm going to say yes. I'm curious because I feel like a lot of countries do. Like I feel like when Italians go to Italy, you know, like Teresa Judice goes to Italy and she walks through one of those lemon shops or the tourist shops or whatever, like, "Oh yeah, I'm Italian." They were like, "Shut up. No, you're not. Get the [ __ ] out of here. Your ragu ass. Get out of here with your Rayo's ass. You know, I saw your sister-in-law on a ROS commercial. Get out of here.

11:09 Get out of here. You cheater." I just wonder because it makes me feel bad for Angie because she's just so excited. You know, she's got Greek flags, Greek glasses, Greek bra. I mean, she's just really ready to go. And she's one of those people who when she's someplace she likes, she's like, "Oh my god, look. Isn't it so different here?" Like, at one point she even went, "Oh my god, look, Greek honey. It's so different. Are those Greek bees? They really They really got on the case over there. It's Greek. We are Greek. We are Greek. We are Greek." Um, I feel like um I was I was going to make a joke about like um how maybe the people of Greece are happy that Angie K is like their celebrity ambassador. So that then made me start to look up who are some like famous people who are Greek and like the Greek celebrity situation is really strong. I don't know. I never knew this.

11:59 Yeah, it's strong. Jennifer Aniston. Yes. Did you know this? Yes. Did know that.

12:04 Of course you did. Yes. Her father. Of course. because her father is Victor Keryakis from Days of Our Lives. So yeah, I know he's Greek.

12:14 Oh my god, I forgot about that. Okay, Tina Fey is also on this list. Obviously, we all know John Stamos. Like obviously Tiffany Theon. Okay, Maria Manunos. Bob Kas. Bob Kas is obvious. Betty White. Betty White is on this list. She has

12:29 I didn't know Betty White was Greek. She has Greek, Danish, Greek, English, and Welsh descent. So I don't think that she's like hardcore Greek. Yeah, I'm going to give that Angie Harmon.

12:39 No, Mina Suvari for sure. Like that's definitely obvious that she's I feel like Suvari sounds like it could be a Greek last name. Surprising one. Tommy Lee.

12:49 Yeah, I know that. Tommy Lee. Mhm. I think Kelly Clarkson is a surprising one. Irene, there is one.

12:56 Do you know that Since You Be Since You've Been Gone is actually about Atlantis.

13:07 [clears throat] Okay. So, Angie's like, "I brought the Greekst Greeks you'll know in Salt Lake City to come and give us a basic Greek words that you need to know." And so, Aunt Reed is like, "Yasu." Yasu means hi. Okay. And Heather's like, "Um, how do I say thank you?" And he says, "F Earisto." And Angie's like, "That's a big one, huh?" Oh, I know that's a lot. Okay, here's one. How do you say snoozefest? Snoozefest. Come on, try it, Aunt Rita. It's an inside joke. I'm referencing a a a fleeting moment that Mary said that I assume will make a huge splash in pop culture. Uh cuz I'm predicting it will be, but I won't actually know because I'll have to wait for the episode to air. And future me just told me it does not make a splash. So, this entire snoozefest thing really is not that funny. Okay. How do you say you're a goddamn alcoholic and you probably blacked out on a plane and I'm sick of

14:04 you calling me a liar in the sisterhood? She's like dalopod. Oh, okay. We do have a word for that.

14:15 Uh so Angie's like there's not a Greek word for snooze, is there? When the alarms go off in Greece, everybody gets up.

14:25 Uh snooze sounds sort of like Zeus backwards if you ask me. Um, so well he did lose control. So

14:32 you snooze you Zeus, right? Throwing light throw lightning bolts around. Am I right? Am I right, everyone?

14:42 So we go over to Meredith's house and uh she's packing with Chloe who's just dripping charisma. She's like, "Oh, I probably need a cute white queen and glowing." Chloe's like, "Yeah, potentially. And of course, I need an easy breezy white blazer. I love the idea of an easy breezy.

15:04 Meredith Marks and her easy breezy white blazer. Like, oh well, I need to make sure I have some nice firm shoulder pads and a beautiful uh linen fabric for my easy breezy white blazer. All right, I packed my easy breezy white blazer. So, my swim attire is out and ready to go. Chloe, do you have my EBW? EBWB, my easy breezy white blazer. No. Okay, could you pack that for me, please? Yes, mother.

15:36 So, we go back to Angie's house and Aunt Rita is like, "Gosh, word for boring? I don't know this word. Greeks are not boring, so we don't know the word." Well, I'm not thin, but I know the word.

15:49 No excuse, she's like, "Sick your attitude." Amita's like, "We're on TV. I can't let people know that there's ever a boring moment in Greece." So, uh, Lewis is like, "Well, yes, we're not boring. We don't have voted for it." So, Mary goes, "Um, how do you say you have no manners?" And he's like, "Oh, well, that's obviously okay.

16:12 How do you say easy breezy white blazer? I'm sorry to interject." Lewis is like, "La, I'm sorry. What did that mean?" It means I know you farted. Damn it, Angie.

16:26 Now we go over to Lisa's house. Um, who's packing and John is like, "Oh, is this all you're taking?" Yeah. No. I have like so much stuff in the bedroom, like 60 Chanel bags, and I have like a whole box of Versace stuff that I have to go through. And like I know it's Italian, but it kind of like feels Greek, you know, cuz I love all my stuff. I think it's like really like I really got like really cute stuff, you know? Cuz Italy and Greece are the same thing. I'm not really sure what to take. I just like everything's so cute. I just have so many things.

16:57 He's just looking at her like, "God, get me out of here. Get me out of here." Did you hear the rumor is that Todd that uh Bronwin is officially separating from Todd and she's announcing it at the reunion.

17:11 Whoa. I did not hear that reunion. Wow. That reunion tea today. Not that Brunwin is in the scene or anything, but I don't know. It's like whenever we're in scenes and not much is happening or we're trying to learn Greek, which let's face it, I barely know Spanish. Like I barely know English. Um I just start my mind starts wandering. And when my mind starts wandering these days, I just keep thinking I wonder what Todd's like in a swinging relationship.

17:37 Like what if you pulled Todd's keys out of the bowl? And it's like, okay, well my husband gets Bronwin who's hot and I get Todd. So, I just Can we repick? Can we repick?

17:52 Yeah. Um, yeah, that's uh Well, I guess we all saw that coming if that does happen because things don't seem,

18:00 no pun intended. Little bit in my life. Okay. So then um a little bit of Worthers in my mouth, [gasps]

18:14 a little bit of get off on my lawn, a little bit of a calendar in my phone. Palm pilots, they're the future. So we go back to Angie's. They're asking how to say shut up. And um Heather's like, "How do you say piss off?" And Aunt Rita's like, "Well, you can say," which means, "Get out of here." Oh, Aunt Rita.

18:43 No, actually, seriously, get out of here. Like Jojo said, um, I do like that when Mary asks, "How do you say shut up?" that like Lewis and Aunt Rita right away are like, "Oh, Scuss." Like we say that all the time. Scuss. Okay, so we go to Bronwin and Todd. And Bronwin is

19:04 Hey, did you hear that it's been announced that Bronwin is leaving, separating from Todd officially, and they're announcing it at the reunion?

19:10 Oh my god, your timing is crazy. Now that we're talking about Bronwin and Todd,

19:16 so Bronwin's like, "Well, Todd, I'm worried it's going to be a fiesta trip again." Yes, could be. But you know what? If they fight on the on this on this flight again, this time someone's getting zip tied to a chair, okay? Cuz what's the what's the Greek police situation? Look at me, Todd. nervously laughing, hoping that you also find this to be a a humorous situation and you're no longer angry at me participating in this show. Isn't this funny for us? Well, I don't think the police situation's very good over there, I'd imagine. Especially for people who do things that their husbands constantly warned them against and continued to do anyway. You go hang out with that ladies, you get thrown into Greek clink and don't call me cuz I know Greek for tough titties.

19:59 I love this. I love this fun banter we have. Um, you know, Angie's Greek. Mhm. And she'll be able to get us out of trouble, so I think we're I think we're going to be okay. It's I love this. I love this. Well, we had this back and forth that we have, Todd. It's so fun. You don't know what Angie's going to say to him. If she's speaking Greek, she might just say, "Yeah, I locked the [ __ ] up."

20:19 That was I know I know you meant that as a joke, even though you were being very serious. Everything's great, Todd. Everything's great with us. Hand me my iPad. Not a happy.

20:32 Back to Angie's house. Aunt Rita is like, "So, you're going over there to be nice and meet people, or you're going over there to be mad." Okay, I've decided. I love Aunt Rita now. I'm not going to come for Aunt Rita anymore. Aunt Rita read this room immediately. And Heather's like, "Well, both. A little bit of both, actually." So now we're here at the airport and everyone gathers and Heather's like, "I've never been to Greece. Always wanted to go. You know, I've seen The Clash of the Titans and if Harry Hamlin is on the island of Santorini, I will not turn him down." Love that 40-year-old reference to a cult movie.

21:11 That's uh Yeah. I mean, what do you want? Look at our modern references. We're like, "Hey, you got any facts of life references you can throw in there?"

21:20 I know. Oh, I'm actually shaming her for just having such a young reference. I mean, like, hello. Can we not find something in like 1973 that we can reference? I mean, surely there's something in Kramer versus Kramer, although that's 78.

21:34 I'm typing in is Park overall Greek. Dynamov, please let Dynamov be Greek. She's not Greek. She's an American actress. There you go.

21:44 Dynamov is Dynamov Greek. Is Dynamov? No. Dynamov is not Greek. I love I love AI up like I AI seems actually bothered that I requested this like like how could you ask me this? Of all the things you could ask AI, not this. No, Dina Manov is not Greek. Okay. Born to New York City to Ashkenazi Jewish parents with her mother of Polish Ukrainian Jewish descent.

22:09 Also, just in case anyone's wondering, Lester Carbonel, not Greek. Also not Greek. Is anyone from the 80s sitcom Empty Nest of Greek origin? AI. Come on, AI. Um, okay. Well, here's this. While the main casts of Empty Nest Nest, like Richard Mulligan, Dynamov, Park Overall, wasn't Greek, there were Greek actors and characters in the Golden Girls/mpt nest universe. Notably, I love that. The Golden Girls emptiness nest universe. notably actor Dmitri Cranotakus known for playing a Greek waiter in some episodes. So there you go everyone. There you go. Uh answered, asked and answered. So uh Mary's never been to Greece. Um no, she has been to Greece and she's like, "It's so serene. Everything's just like I mean it's just it's just right. It's almost it's it's almost like it's not real."

23:07 And Lisa says, "Yeah, you know what? Being friends with Angie, it it's like being on a daily trip to Greece. I'm hoping that after this trip I never have to hear about Greece, Greek anything like ever again. I'm like geeked out. I don't even want to see the musical Greece. I don't even care. Like John Travolta, I don't even want him in my life. I'm sick of it. I've had it. Yeah, the food's just a little bit too fresh for her in Greece. Let's be honest. She's like, "Wait a second. This food's delicious. I hate it here." Um, so now we have arrived in Santorini. Um, although before we got to Santorini, we did see them coorting on the airplane and having fun. And of course the question on everyone's mind is, so now you can have a camera on a plane. Now suddenly there's footage.

23:55 Yeah, truly. [gasps] Uh, so they go out, their driver's there. Um, and they're like, "Nigos. Oh my god, it's Nikos. It is Nikos. Hello, Nikos. You are Greek. Hello, we are in Greece. I am Greek. I am Greek. And she's giving everybody little Greek flags to walk out of the the uh airport with. I'm just cringing so hard. I just imagine Electra at home like hiding her face under a pillow like why? Why, mother? Why?

24:23 I am. I am Greek. I am Greek. I am Greek. I am Greek. I'm more Greek than you. I was just hoping she'd start like Greek offing with people like I am Angie. I am Greek. You are not Greek. I am Greek. I am more Greek. I am more Greek. I am most Greek. I was just imagining Electra at home running around in circles with an American flag. Be like, "Finally, I don't have to wave the Greek flag." Uh, it's her big rebellion. Ding. Yes, ma'am. You've rung again. Yes. Could you please get me some? Please don't say it. I am Greek. Damn it. Fall for this every time.

24:58 Please stop ringing your your service bell ma'am. So now, um, Heather is, uh, she's as Lisa's asking, "How big is Santa Rainine?" So Nico says it's 76 square miles and she's like, "Oh my god, that's like pretty big." And then we have this moment where for some reason Heather decides she want I don't know like she's comparing island sizes. She's like, "Oh, so it's more like Barbados or Cadawan where we just were, right?" And they show like these islands and they're like x them out or whatever. I'm like, "Do we have to play a game about the relative size of Santorini to like Barbados? I don't I feel like we're a little running a little dry on the game front here."

25:37 [gasps] She's like, "Okay, so I want to play a game. What do you think the worst thing Barbados has ever said to Santorini?" I know. Um, Heather's like, "I just don't understand the size of islands or penises." Okay that's

25:55 all right. Okay, Heather. Let's try to have a nonf funny season. How about that? You know, it's like, you know, when you say to a kid like, "How about we have some quiet time?" I think let's Heather, you know, you have many strengths, but like I think right now the material I say this as someone who runs out of material all the time.

26:12 All the time. Can we get Aunt Rita back here to just ask a question? Hey, Aunt Rita, how do you say this in Greek?

26:19 Stas, please. Stas for the love of God. does. Um, so, uh, yeah. So, she makes that joke at least like, "I knew the hot joke was coming. Oh my god, Nico, please plug your ears." So, now, um, here's another Heather moment. I just want to smoke a Greek cigarette. We're getting tattoos and we're coming home with Greek men's numbers in our phones. That's our three goals. Okay. Um, Nikos, do you have any single friends? Do you have any single friends for Heather? And Brain's like, um, he's like, after the conversation I heard today, not so much. Not so much.

27:00 Even though it's frustrating that Browin betrayed my trust, I think the key in moving forward in in friendship is not going backwards. Cuz if you want to go forward and you go backwards, then you're actually going backwards and not forwards. Unless you turn around and then backwards becomes forwards, which is really cool. And I've learned that like her ability to keep secrets is not very high. She doesn't have a high ability, which is not Yeah. Because it's like yeah Whitney makes no sense. It's like, what are you even talking about? None of this made sense. Betrayed your trust. You're the least trustworthy person on this show. What are you talking about? And then just her general language. You know,

27:41 if you move forward, then you're not moving backwards. But if you're moving backwards while you're walking towards something, you're moving backwardsly towards it. Line. I got lost. Can we start over? [clears throat]

27:58 Her ability to keep secrets is not high. Make any sense? Um, so they go bless her. So they go for uh dinner at Anony's. Um, sounds Italian. I'm just going to say it. Okay. and they're greeted and seated and um they're like, "I'm sorry. Can we have your name for your reservation?" I am Greek. Okay, we got it. We've got it.

28:23 It's very on the nose to bring Angie to Angion. So, Angie is like, "Guys, we have to do a cheers. We're in Greece together." Okay. 3 2 1 We are Greek. Okay. For me, this is like a dream come true. It's surreal that my parents were born here and it's special to have you all here because nothing can be make me happier than to go to the most important place in the world and have you guys all ruin it for me. [clears throat]

28:50 This will deepen our bonds. I have always wanted to be kicked out of my father's home country. So, I'm so glad that you came with me here to deepen our bonds as friends. And I want you to know I consider you all my friends. I am Greek. So, thank you guys and Yamas. We are going to have an amazing trip. The best Greek days of our Greek lives. And they're like, "Yamas, yamas,

29:13 llamas, llamas." Whitney's on the end saying llamas probably. So, Meredith is trying. I just have to point out Meredith's attitude here because it's so funny cuz Meredith is coming on this trip and you can tell that she's like, "Okay, well, I've been attacked the last seven group of events we've been to and this time I'm going to start clean my easy breezy white blazer mentality." So, [gasps] so she goes, "So, tomorrow we're just going to take it away." She's like laughing and smiling for no reason. I mean, Meredith, you can try with this positive attitude. They are still going to drag you, girl.

29:52 I mean, of course, she's going to have this like lovely attitude. She packed her easy breezy white blazer. So, Angie says, "We've been literally traveling for two days. Thank god I got the bags under my eyes fixed." What? What did you do under your eyes? Well, I just got the fat pads removed. So, they take little chopsticks and they go under there and then they break the fat up and smooth it out. Everyone's like,

30:16 I know. I was like, sign me up. What do I She makes it sound so easy. I'm going to ask about that. I'm going in tomorrow for some for some Toxy talks. I'm going to ask them about that.

30:25 Yeah. Be like, can I have the um the I am Greek chopstick under the eyelid uh I eye bag situation.

30:34 Yeah. Um so Meredith is like, "Well, oh, sorry. Brahma goes first." She's like, "Well, aren't you doing this? Is this little diarama has changed the way I look at chopsticks? From now on, every time I eat lane, I'm just going to be thinking about galler flat pads and how badly mine are noticeable because I'm not willing to have that surgery.

30:59 Her head's going to nod shake off her shoulders. Well, easy breezy Meredith Marks is here. I actually just hurt my neck by doing a Meredith Mark's neck impersonation. Um, just want to report that to all of the listeners right now. I like Bonehog, so I'm not a huge filler fan.

31:21 Well, personally, I think Sorry, what, Ben? No, I'm like I thought I thought Meredith was a big filler fan, but maybe I don't know. I get I'm not good at spotting. You're much better at it, I guess. Is did Meredith have surgery?

31:35 Yeah, there's some filler there. I'm not really sure. I mean, I'm not really an expert. The only the only way I'm an expert is the same way as you is watching this show and trying to guess what everybody's done. But yeah, I mean, I would say she looks different cuz Do you think she That's a good question. Like, are they facelifts every year? Cuz she looks different every year. Like, she's one of the people who's actually coming close to looking like a filter, which is good. A compliment.

31:59 Yeah, she she is getting great work done, but maybe it's just maybe it's just work and maybe it's not fillers. I don't know. Not,

32:06 but I she's not a huge filler fan. I don't prefer fillers and I don't want to support fillers, but I will just have my easy breezy white blazer and no filler needed cuz the aura will be all around me.

32:21 I don't know what I'm saying. Please, please, please take over. We could just listen to the human embodiment of filler. Heather, what's your opinion? And Heather's like, "Oh, I think everybody should get all the fillers that they want. I think everybody should get lots of filler every minute of every day. By the way, I'm going to call someone crushingly insecure in about 5 minutes.

32:43 I think she was shilling for her business at that moment. So then she's like, she's like, "Oh god, girls, look at my wrist."

32:50 But also, also, we know, you know what I mean Heather? We have eyes. That that applies to so many things she's saying this episode. Like, we know Heather

33:01 Santorini is beautiful. Oh, if I had a dollar for every single time I saw a handsome man in Santorini, I would be a Greek billionaire, I would be just like George Stephanopoulos these days. He's a billionaire right?

33:16 Uh, so let's It's been about How many minutes have we've been watching the show? Would you say 10?

33:22 So, it's been about probably 10 minutes and Heather has not started to she's not started crap based on somebody else's storyline yet. So, here she goes. Set her set her free for Christ's sake. Just set her free. Team up, Heather.

33:38 Okay. Well, everyone. Huh. I wonder what time it is. Yeah. What time is it, Heather? Well, it's about that time. And so Britney's like, "Oh my god, Heather, let me see your watch. Wow, your watch." So, um, Heather has a new watch. Goes, "Lisa, I have something to tell you that you're not going to like. I bought a Cardier." Oh my god, I love that for you. That's that's like really great. And I'm just going to smile. I love that you bought a card. Yay. Yeah. Yeah. That's like really awesome. Well, audience, during our layover, and another off camerara thing I'm going to bring up because no one can prove it wrong. Lisa and Angie got into it about Angie's Cardier watch. And Lisa accused Angie of copying her. And Lisa thinks it's only special if Lisa wears it. said they were fighting so much about the Cardier watch, it seemed like such a big deal that when I went downstairs and saw the duty-free shops, I was like, "How

34:32 much is a Cardier watch?" Cuz I didn't know. So, I bought a Cardier watch. And so did Whitney. You are so sad that you would spend six grand to like punk somebody that does not give a [ __ ] about you. Like, what are you doing? This is This is one of the more embarrassing things I've seen on this show. I'm not saying something.

34:56 So Mary's like, "You guys bought one? Like how much was it?" I don't know. It was like six grand. Like not much. Like okay. Whitney goes, "I get a car from Heather." And she's laughing. She's like, "I'm buying us matching cardier." And I was like, "Are you going forwards? Are you going backwards? Cuz if you go forwards, you can't go backwards." And she said, "Stop it, Whitney. I'm buying cardier." And I said, "I don't even know what that is." Anyway, I still don't. Well, because it was duty free, I could get a second Cardier watch for practically the same price as if I was buying them from the Cardier store. BOGO at Cardier. I'm in. How does that work?

35:36 How does Dutyfree work? What am I missing out on here? No, I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't understand it. I don't feel like it was truly a BOGO at the Cardier store. And um yeah, also I have to say honestly like how many times the things have to happen at airports or on airplanes for the Salt Lake City production crew to just learn that they have to have their their cameras on at all times. I mean how many rings have to be lost in a bathroom? How many seats have to be shaken during Crazy Richians? How many Cartias have to be purchased before you guys turn on your cameras?

36:12 Truly. Um, so Lisa is just, you know, she knows they're punking her, so she's just like, "Oh, congratulations. Congratulations. I'm like so happy for you." But, you know, she it really is bothering her cuz she's doing the thing with her hair and just like flicking her hair back and stuff. And um Heather's like, "She's acting like it's no big deal, but I know she's at least mildly irritated by it." Um, they were fighting about a Cardier watch. Isn't that crazy? And Mary's like, "Who who was these two?" Whitney and Lisa, it was or Angie. It was like, "You copied me." And she was on the phone looking for photos. And I was like, "I'll copy her right now. It's different from your Cardier." I mean, this is hilarious. This Cardier fight.

36:57 This is going in the cannon of Salt Lake City. Am I right, guys? Cardier fight. It is different. It's really different. Like, yours is so like less shiny. It's probably cheaper. So, good for you. And Mary's like, "Yeah, I wouldn't a Cardier watch. Who's going to argue about that?" Like, they're that's a grandma watch. I mean, she's like, "None of us just spring chickens, but still. Why are you Why are you Why are you arguing over a grandma watch?"

37:24 Sexy watch, sister. Todd Todd's just jerking off to pictures of Cardier on his iPad.

37:32 I did not know that Cardier watches were grandma watches. Um, I mean, I'm I don't also I don't know. Mary sometimes is an unreliable narrator when it comes to reality, but um now I assume that there are grandma watches, so I probably won't get one. Sorry, Cardier.

37:51 Were you about to get Were you about to get a Cardier watch? Were you super close?

37:54 No. Were you I'm a Cardier person, but I've sure changed my mind now. Well, I will say I was hanging out with a uh a wealthy friend in Vegas and he is like going down like this Rolex path. I think I was telling you about

38:09 Yes, I know you're Well, that's a that's a watch. I mean, a Rolex watch. So, I've never been into fancy watches. I just I feel like that's crazy. I feel like fancy watches are crazy. So, my friend was like, I want let's go to the Rolex store cuz I guess he has a starter Rolex and he's like, I want to I want to look at the Rolexes. So, we went in and the Rolexes, this is this is shocking, guys. I'm I'm going to break everyone's brains. The Rolexes were beautiful. I was like, "Oh, I get it. Those are really really nice." Of course, they cost like 10,000 to start.

38:40 The minimum. Yeah, that's a cheap minimum. That's embarrassing. So, but I was like, "Okay,

38:44 I can buy one of those." No, he probably didn't. Actually, I think 15,000 is where they start. I don't remember. I'm not Again, I'm not a watch gay, but um uh but then I was like, "That's cool." But then my friend said that like if you've never had a Rolex, they're not going to sell you one. They'll tell you that it's like backorded. They can't get it to you right now. They want to make sure you know how to like take care of a Rolex before you have one. So you have to get it from like you have to get an aftermarket Rolex from someone else.

39:15 Yeah. You have to like prove you're worthy of the Rolex. Yeah. He was that and I was like who would wear that? I don't want that.

39:21 Yeah. But like now learning that you can't just get a Rolex. Now I want a Rolex. Now I'm like wait

39:28 because it's like wait a second. No I'm I'm not really I'm not gonna let you get a Rolex. If you get a Rolex take it off.

39:36 I'm not going to get one. I'm not going to get one. I'm just saying like it's like the moment that you hear that there's like scarcity and that like it's difficult to get. Like I am like it's

39:45 honestly if you just told me Mackenzie's child is like difficult to get I would change my tune in one second. I'd be like I love that checkerboard [ __ ] Give it to me.

39:53 Give me some checker boards. Oh, I want checkerboards on everything. I am such a like I I am I am such a typical consumer. Like the moment you say that something is difficult to get is the moment I like I'm like I need to get it. I need to get it. Rolex though is probably not worth it. But

40:10 you're more like a Lisa. But anyway, the whole point is that like when it occurred to me that I couldn't get a Rolex, I looked elsewhere in the store and they had Cardier. I was like, "Oh, Cardier seemed nice." Well, everyone's going to get a Cardier.

40:21 Loser. Loser. We're out of Rolexes, but can please can we show you a Cardier? Um, I just don't believe that in Las Vegas they're going to have a store in a mall in a high-end mall for Rolexes, but refuse to sell you one. That just doesn't sound

40:38 They'll sell to They'll sell to other Rolex people, but they're not going to sell to

40:43 Ben Mandel. Look around Las Vegas. Like, look around the people walking around Las Vegas. Those are not Rolex people. I mean, come on. How are they going to stay open if they don't I just don't like you see mall you see like mall food court people all over Vegas. Like someone is buying those watches.

41:01 Is anyone allowed to buy a Rolex? I just don't I just am hoping that if we talk about it long enough, Rolex will say, you know what, let's give those two guys Rolexes. They will never do that. Well, it says anyone can buy a Rolex, but popular models are extremely hard to get new from an authorized dealer due to high demand and limited supply. Park Overall is not Greek. Please stop asking me.

41:26 Park Overall is like, I got one. I'm in Tennessee and I got one. Yeah, it does say that. Um, if you want one of the new nice ones like a limited or whatever that you they do often require long wait lists or building relationships. So, this is sounding true. While less popular models might be available. So, you have like the you can get like the shitty ones or like the ones that everybody will look down on. Like you'll get your first one and walk around like, "Oh my god, I got a Rolex." And people with Rolexes are like, "He got the Heather Gay Rolex that they would just sell anybody a duty-free loser."

42:03 Dare to dream. Dare to dream. I wonder what sort of watch park overall has though. I guess you just keep dreaming about your Rolexes and I'll be over here, you know, praying for world peace. I'm a good person. So, Whitney tells her Cardier story and um they're still trying to make Lisa mad and Lisa is onto their game and so she's she doesn't really care. I mean, it's stupid. So, she's like, "Well, but these two they're fighting about copying and [clears throat] she's scrolling through things on her phone, but we all got Cardier." And Angie's like, "Well, I want to say it's not a competition.

42:42 Everyone has beautiful things. Everybody works Greek hard and we're all Greek happy for you that you got a Greek Cardier. And you should all be happy for everyone else." And no one is copying because Lisa, Lisa, you say that about all people that you think I got a Cardier because you were wearing one. And yeah, you said, "Yeah, I did think you copied me." Yeah. Well, when I wear chaperelli, then you start wearing chaperelli. And then like when you when I listened to Liza Minnelli, you listen to Liza Minnelli. Okay.

43:12 Well, I had a Cardier over 10 years ago and now suddenly you have one and I copied you.

43:18 Yeah, but I've had like mine for like three or four years. So like I kind of like like I'm like the like you sort of like copied me as long as like you were been on the show. So like Yeah. three or four years. Yeah.

43:28 Then find a photo of you wearing it. No, you find a photo of you wearing it and also wearing Chapperelli cuz I wear that too. I will because I have one on my Facebook and that's how old it is. It's on Facebook.

43:42 Dang. That was I thought that was that was one of the most damning things to come out of this show is that like when a real housewife is like dissing Facebook for being old. You're like whoa that's bad. That's really bad.

43:54 I like that Andre's like competition is stupid. I know exactly where you can find my Cardier ring my Cardier watch picture. That's like I've had it longer. You guys are so silly.

44:05 She defin she has like an archive status somewhere that's like Angie K is happy with her new Cardier watch like from 2004

44:17 like Farmville. No, because you know it wasn't you know it was like Angie Cats is I got a cardier.

44:25 Yes, that's exactly what it is. Oh. Oh god, that was the worst when you had to finish the sentence. That seemed kind of fun. Um, Lisa's like, "This is kind of silly, don't you think?" Uh, well, you know what is silly? It's your non-Greek snobbyess. Like, oh, you copied my watch. Well, guess what? You copied everything from Greece cuz we started democracy. Yeah, but you know what? I'm not snobby. I'm not snobby though. So, I didn't copy that cuz I'm not snobby. Like you're the only one who can afford certain things.

44:58 No, I didn't say that. You know why? You can think that, but I've never said that. I haven't. I've never said it.

45:05 Have I said it? Have I said? Yeah, but I've never said it. But you just said it. You did.

45:09 Why do you think I would copy your we watch? I don't know. I copy your watch. You know what? Because people see things and they copy it. That's why. I don't know.

45:17 I think I've had this since before my daughter was born. I mean, people own nice things. Like this is literally from this Cardier watch is literally from 2500 BC. It is they found it in the P parthonon and the Pantheon and the Acropolis [clears throat] in Athens, Sparta. Um and Brown says, "This is the kind of petty I live for."

45:39 Mhm. Someone did buy this watch first. I'd like to see who. Mhm. I had my I had mine first and I had my Rolex first and I had my Porsche first. But it's not a competition.

45:52 No, because you know what? I've had my Porsche forever. I've had it forever. Like even when I was a little baby, I was driving like a little baby Porsche. That was my first time.

45:59 I have a Porsche. I have I have Porsche. I have a Porsche. I have Yeah, but you know what? I had a Porsche in the womb. I was riding a Porsche in the womb. They couldn't even hear They couldn't even hear a heartbeat. They could just hear an engine that was really loud. Like the neighbors in the in the ICU when I was born were like asking my car to be quieter. I have I have a Porsche Pegasus special edition for Greek people. It flies. Your husband is Porsche Pegasus. So whatever. I don't even care because I've had a Porsche like forever. I had the first Porsche. I had the first Porsche I ever made.

46:32 I have actual horses in my Porsche. Like I bought two horses and those are the horsepowers of my horse. Not to be fancy, but like it just is what it is. I've had the first horsedrawn Porsche. I have the first I have the first Porsche that runs purely on spanicopa. Sorry.

46:48 Yeah. Well, you know what? My Porsche My Porsche loves Greek food, so it just ate your Spanicopa Porsche. Sorry. You're out of a Porsche. You shouldn't have been made out of spanicopa.

46:59 My Porsche has a force field. It's a force field made of pa. Sorry. Sorry, but my Porsche has not had um carbs for like 3 years, but it's her birthday, so I just let her eat carbs. So, she just ate your your Spanish cobra at pea bread force field. Sorry. Sorry, but my Porsche comes with a side of fries. That makes it kind of a little bit of a better Porsche. Sorry. And [gasps] so, in this non uh we're not competing storyline just to add to it. I love I love Housewives social media like Reddit and the stupid stories you hear cuz there are so many that are popping into my head just watching this. Like, did you know that Angie got her own competing French fry ad like her own sponsorship? because Lisa has one of these

47:40 and so you know already I was going to make you guess and Angie has Arby's and while that's great for her like listen I think every I want I would take an Arby's sponsorship you know but you're not competing by winning Arby's you know you have to do better than Arby's Arby's is meat with bubbles in it has bubbles in the meat you guys look at your Arby's meat

48:02 I am not going to say this is the end of our podcast but we've had a really great on for 14 years. Ronnie, I will take RB any day over.

48:12 Let's break up. We're almost 15 years old. Go ahead. We're hitting 14. We're hitting 14. We're hitting

48:17 Oh, you're right. You're right. Okay. Yeah. For another year. Yeah. Yeah. No, we're entering high school. Um, no, for real. I would take Arby's over Wendy's any day of the week.

48:26 What? Any day? That's just lunacy. I don't believe you. I don't agree with you. I don't believe you%

48:34 No. 100%. First of all, curly fries, horsey sauce, ary sauce. Like, yes, the meat the meat is the meat. But you know what? At least they got the meats.

48:46 The meat's disgusting. And the bread's not good either. And Wendy's has amazing bread. And even with their changed French fries that are extra extra crispy now, they're still very good. They're better than a curly fry.

48:57 What I will do, what I will do is I have not been to Wendy's in years. I actually almost went to Wendy's when I was at the Dallas airport recently.

49:05 I will I will go revisit Wendy's and I will I'll make a a fair and balanced assessment. Okay. But I will say that right now that like I actually love Arby's and I'm so sad that the one here in Hollywood closed down because um I love it. I love like Arby's is like a like a restaurant.

49:26 I've had an Arby's moment for sure. Like when I was younger, when I was 15, I used to drive to dinner theater with this guy named Chris and we would go binge together. We were like binge friends. We were really fat and we would go binge. And so sometimes we'd go get like a pizza and just sit in the car and scarf a pizza. I mean, by the way, this is the kind of friend to have.

49:44 It's like it's like your heroin friend, you know? You're like, "Let's do heroin together tonight after work." But we would do this and we would go to Arby's because they would have like

49:53 50 cent Arby's day or something where you can just buy [ __ ] for super cheap and we would get just bags of Arby's and just binge. So part of my being grossed out by Arby's is that I reached that point where I just had so much. And then one day I was looking at it and I wasn't feeling good but I was still eating it, you know, cuz binging. And I looked at it and I saw all the air bubbles in the meat and I was like, "How is this made? This isn't right. This is like liqufied

50:14 bubbleies and it's just gross." I mean, I'm not I'm not going to dispute you that the me the meat is gross.

50:22 Um, and fake. I just think it I like it. I think I like I like it. And uh I mean, obviously for me, McDonald's reigns supreme. Like, it will always be at the end of the day, it's always going to be McDonald's. And then Burger King is number two for me, mainly cuz onion rings, like the onion rings do a lot of heavy lifting. I enjoy a Whopper with I I love a Whopper with cheese. Burger King needs to up their their bun game. Their buns literally taste like

50:46 sometimes they're like mealy. They're like it's like crumbly. It like crumbles apart like paper or something like that. Like something is wrong there.

50:54 Yeah. But I love me at Burger King. And then is Arby's next? It might be. I'm not sure.

51:00 No. No. Well, for me, no. I would say um I would say McDonald's, Wendy's, Jack in the Box.

51:07 I haven't had Jack in the Box. Jack in the Box just has so many different things you Anyway, this conversation should end. But I will say if you're going to stick to your Arby's, if you're going to do your taste test between Arby's and Wendy's, I know who's going to win. I mean, but if you do tend to I don't want to sway your decision, but if you do tend to start going towards the Arby's vote, just remember you're not going to get a Rolex that way cuz no one at the Rolex store is going to hear that you chose Arby's and give you a Rolex.

51:34 Yep. This is definitely like if there was someone at the Rolex Corporation that was like, you know what, we should send Bend and Ronnie some Rolexes. They've now decided bad for the brand

51:44 by the way. Yeah. Send us our send us send us our [ __ ] Okay. So, watch. Meanwhile, you think this went on a long time audience? Sorry, but this um fight is going on longer on the show.

51:55 What do you want us to talk about on this? They're still they're still going about who copied what. And um so she's like, "You know what? It's not a competition, but like my Porsche is a 2025 and I got the first color of this color in this state. So, you know what? Like if Joseph Smith drew drove a Porsche, like he would be jealous that he didn't have mine. That's all I'm saying. So, yeah. Lisa says, "Anie is such like a jealous competitive person. It's unhealthy. Like, she's going to take years off of her life if she keeps this going. First, it's with like watches and cars and like I don't even know what you drove but but you know what I was driving when you were watching me on TV cuz I was on TV uh while you were not on TV yet. Oh,

52:43 and by the way, Jen Shaw's out of jail today. That was Jen Shaw's out of jail. Yeah. Watching us watching us talking about Angie K watching me. Yeah.

52:54 Yeah. Wow. That's crazy to think. So Angie's like, "Well, I don't care about things. You and I are so different. You just named all the things." Angie, stop it. And she's like, "But I feel like you do care about things." You do. You care about them. She's like, "No, I do not care about things. Only Greek things. I'm like a Greek girl. Greek girls just want to have fun." And it reminds me that you and I are so different. You are so worried about what things look like on the outside. Which is funny because Angie K just bragged about putting chopsticks under her bag and having the fat removed.

53:34 I'm not worried about that. Yeah, like that's like you putting that on me. I have hobbies just like you. And one of my hobbies is sitting in the bathtub and looking for stuff and finding like cool unique pieces for trips and special occasions. That's [clears throat] that's my hobby. Sitting in a tub and looking for pieces. Now, Lisa, you know that the bathtub is Meredith singing. You're stealing Meredith Sing. Now, by the way, I just ordered a bathtub at Dutyfree. Are you looking to start an argument? It's not going to work with me cuz I've got my EBW with me. Okay. Easy breezy, beautiful blazer girl. That's me, Meredith Marks, and Greece.

54:15 I mean, whatever. Then I don't sit in the bath then. Then I sit on the bath the bathroom floor and I look for things. That's what I do. Like it's my hobby. I like to look for things on the internet. Things that'll be cute on trips. Sorry. Sorry. I look for things.

54:31 Why is like I'm First of all, I love that stance. Sorry. I look for things. Why is looking like browsing for clothing in a bathtub feel like luxurious and indulgent, but like doing it on the bathroom floor feels like sad and tragic? It's like, oh dear. I feel like bathroom floor is like where people do things like they like pick up their loose pill that went flying somewhere, you know, or like are crying because of from like the the bath mat is like where sad things happen. The bathtub is where like relaxation and wonderful things happen.

55:06 Have you ever used a bath like do you do you have a bathtub now that you've used like that you use?

55:11 You don't have a bathtub. I have a bathtub and I don't I've used it once. You know what my bathtub is for? It's in the shower. It's one of those like there's a shower like a standup shower but then ne in the shower in the same thing is a bathtub. It's weird. It's not in the same unit. You know what I mean? You know how they do that now?

55:28 So I have You meaning that like the shower does not go down into the bathtub, right? So like you walk into the shower, it's a big walk-in shower. So you walk in, it's like a rain shower or whatever, but then be beyond that is a bathtub that's also in there. I don't know. It's they do that now. I don't know why, but anyway. Um it's like that. And so it's where I put my feet up to cut my toenails. And so my bathtub is just filled with toenails.

55:52 Oh, that's disgusting. Disgusting. Disgusting. So the needle just moved towards Arby's, everyone.

56:00 Yeah, I'm not going to get a Rolex either. I'm glad I don't want a Rolex cuz they are not giving me one.

56:05 Okay, so everybody laughs and they're like, "Oh my god, cheers to stuff." And Heather's like, "Wow, got another scene under my belt." Like, "Wow, good one, Heather. You just spent six grand to create the scene that you could have just started with. Remember when Angie and Lisa were fighting in the airport?

56:20 Well, whatever. Spend your money where you like it. So, now we go uh everyone's uh getting ready to go out and uh Lisa's talking to her glam person and she's like, "Yeah, you know what? Like I get my makeup done every day at home. Like every day. Like I have a girl that comes over and every time she comes over she's like, "Oh my god, right now I heard horses ning." And so I looked under the hood of the Porsche that's out there. That's amazing. This is like the first horsedrawn Porsche I've ever seen. She was amazed.

56:50 Angie goes over to Heather and Whitney's room and she's like, "Are you excited to wake up in Greece? Look out the window. It's still grease out there." They're like, "Okay, is this what it's going to be like all trip? Are you excited that you woke up 10 minutes ago in Greece? Is it still Greece?

57:06 Is it different waking up in Greece? I am Greek, so I understand there were a few complaints on the last trip I planned. And then we see the camping trip and people being like, "Fuck camping." But now she's like, "But now we have leveled up and we are staying in this gorgeous villa at the androgynous and androgynous and Arcadia. There will be nothing to complain about here. This is class A. This is where people who've owned Porsches for a long time, and many of them like to stay. But then we see Angie.

57:39 This is the You've owned four Porsches, sweet. I've had five, actually. Wait, she's had five, and Lisa's had four, right?

57:47 Yes. But she has a Cardier watch that um that can be traced back to when Facebook was relevant.

57:55 Don't forget. Um, so, um, Angie and Heather and Mary are walking outside and Lisa's getting glam, so they're making fun of her. No, Lisa comes out. Sorry, that was later. Lisa comes out. She's like, "Oh my god, don't come up to me because I might be braggy." Haha. Yeah. Oh my god, I have a makeup girl in there. She's from Athens. I love her. Oh my god, did you make Did you do your makeup good, Angie? Because you know what? Like that girl, you're Greek, but that girl's like Greek than you. Yeah. She's from Athens. Yeah.

58:28 Yeah. She's like from here. Yeah. She's like from like I don't know if you ever heard of Athens, but she's from there. Yeah.

58:33 So, I got my makeup done by a Greek person and you got your makeup done by yourself. So, you got your makeup done by a less Greek person than me.

58:40 Yeah. Whatever. Not to compete or anything. Yeah. Athens is like the Porsche of Greece. It's like the best part. Yeah. So, guess what, America? It's not an option to go on a trip without glam. Like, why waste a day looking ugly? Am I right? Um, and Heather's like, "Oh my gosh, I love those slides. Those are Prada slides. I'm gonna I'm gonna buy those, Lisa. What?" Mary's like, "What slides?" Lisa's Prada slides. We love your Prada slides. Where'd you get them? Where'd you get your Prada slides? Um, Prada, cuz they're Prada slides. Are you going to get a pair? Are you going to copy me?

59:18 I'm totally I'm totally chill about all this, guys. America, I'm like a very like chill person. I'm not mad at all that they're copying me.

59:24 But don't forget, Meredith is also very light and chill today. She's like, "Yes, she is going to get up here. She's already working on it." Smile, smile, laugh laugh. Easy, Meredith Marks.

59:43 You know what? Oh, it's Heather. She's like, "Britney may have forgiven Meredith, but I haven't. I'm so hurt and so disappointed because when we were walking off the plane, Meredith made it very clear that if I was going to continue to be friends with Britney, then she and I were done and she won't even admit it. Well, she's being nice to you. I mean, clearly she's not done. Can we just let it go, Heather? Jesus Christ. You're just shoving this down our throats the entire [ __ ] season. Just let it go. Find something new, please. I beg of you.

1:00:17 I'm not going to forget about her calling me a liar. So, uh, well, I'm not going to forget about you lying about your black eye for how many years and trying to blame someone in production and all the other [ __ ] that's come out of your mouth on this show. Are we going to start keeping liar tallies? Because this is probably not the show you want that on. God,

1:00:34 horse race. God, kind of makes me pine for the good old days when Heather was chasing Lisa Barlo around a yacht, accusing her of leaking stories to the media. And when Lisa denied it, she basically was saying that Lisa was a liar for denying it. So anyway, what were we talking about? [clears throat]

1:00:52 I mean, like they all accuse each other of lying at all times. Yeah. So, um I mean, look, I I what I will say is it sounded like I mean, Meredith obviously acted up on this plane. I I do believe that she did to some degree and being like

1:01:06 I believe she did. Yeah. And so Meredith being like, "No, I didn't." And like you're you're being crazy right now. I I actually understand Heather's question, believe it or not.

1:01:16 Well, just to clear the Just to clear it, she's not saying she didn't act crazy on the plane. She's just saying she didn't scream and yell for 5 hours or whatever they're saying.

1:01:23 Right. And and Heather, she's doing a Meredith argument where she's arguing the details.

1:01:28 Yeah. And and Heather's like, "Um, I know what I saw and you're trying to act like I didn't see what I saw." So, I understand I actually do understand why Heather is frustrated, but it's sort of at this point where it's like, look, you're got you're not just you're just not going to get anywhere. You're not going to get anywhere. So enjoy.

1:01:42 Also, you were asleep half the time by your own admission. Like if this were a court of law, I just wouldn't listen to you. And this is a court of housewives, so just be quiet. That's what I say. Um, so liar. Just kidding. Just just to set her off. No, no, go yell about that somewhere. So Meredith does whisper to Heather because she's trying to make like jokes and light with Heather, but Heather's not having it. Like she's not giving her any energy. So Meredith is like, "By the way, at some point I need to take two minutes with you cuz I do need to explain something to you from last week's thing, but you know, then we're done with that. Then we're done with it." And she tells us that she tried to talk to Heather. She tried to talk to her before the trip to resolve some issues um because of the misunderstanding about her calling her a liar. And she's like, but you know, if doesn't do it doesn't hurt to give

1:02:34 someone the the courtesy of a conversation and I guess that's a little too much for her. So now they um they arrive at the beach and Heather's like, "Oh my god, why is the sand black?" So Angie's saying it's because of volcanoes and then they are like putting their feet in the water and everything and Angie is like, "I may need to put my bucket hat on." And so she puts on this bucket hat that is like blue and white striped. It's like it's like Greek flag.

1:03:03 Angie, you don't have to do You're in Greece now. You don't have to do this anymore.

1:03:06 Please just stop it. It's one thing if you're like in a if you're in America or in a foreign country and you want to advertise like this is my heritage, but you're you're here now. You don't have to do this. Okay.

1:03:16 Well, we're Americans. I don't even think we're allowed to speak on that because look at look at us. I mean, I go down the street. You can't go down the street here without a truck that's bigger than a house coming past you with American flags all over it and, you know, American flags on the, you know, the bumper and American flags on the windows and American flag. The kids come out, they're just little walking American flags. Okay.

1:03:38 Yeah. Well, that being said, if I saw someone wearing an American flag bucket hat just randomly down the street, I'd be like, "Ma'am, sir, whoever you are, please, please, this is this is too much. You can have pride for your country. You can love what the country stands for if that's if that's what you're if that's what you're feeling. But you don't have to express it in bucket hat form. Okay?

1:04:02 Unless it's July 4th. I will allow it on July 4th, but after that, like, get a grip.

1:04:06 You know, next time you're about to put a big flag on your child or your car or your pet or your street or your mailbox, just ask yourself this. You may be proud of your country, but is your country [ __ ] proud of you? Okay? Is America walking around with Ronny faces everywhere? No, just stop it. Okay, please.

1:04:24 I think just in general, let's just not advance any agenda through a bucket hat. Let's just let the bucket hat be a bucket hat. We do not need to We don't need any advertising on it. We don't just

1:04:36 I would vote for that law if you were in city council. Keep keep bucket hats neutral.

1:04:42 Make bucket hats neutral again. Um make bucket hats bucket hats again. Yeah. Yeah. Um Actually, you know what's so funny? Wait, okay, sorry, another tangent.

1:04:52 Back in 2000 when I was an intern on Strangers with Candy, the little cast, they gave like at the end of the season, they gave little gifts and they gave uh everyone bucket hats that said Strangers with Candy on it. And so it's this cool little bucket hat that I've always had. Didn't really fit well, but I've always kept it cuz it's cool. It's from this show that's like, you know, I worked on, but now like it's a beloved show. And I have this Strangers with Candy bucket hat. My parents went on a cruise to um like went from like Dubai down to like South Africa. It was some crazy cruise. And my dad was like, "Oh, I need a hat." So he took my Strangers with Candy bucket hat and wore wore that around in Dubai. I don't The good news is he didn't lose it, but I'm like, "Dad, why were you wear First of all, why were you wearing a bucket hat, Dad? Second of all, just walking around with the strangers with candy

1:05:44 bucket representation in Dubai. I'm a user, a boozer, and a loser. Just some good oldfashioned intern swag representing in Dubai. Courtesy of my dad.

1:06:00 So, she has this super tacky hat and Mary's like, "Auntie, that Greek hat, I'm not going to lie, just that it just throws the outfit off." And she's like, "I'm going to take it off. You're right. I just wanted to have a moment, but I'm good now. I am Greek. Isn't this the Greekst hat you've ever seen? Look how they make bucket hats in Greece. So now Mary looks at Brwin and she's like, "Broin, let me see your face shape." Yeah. Take your hat off. Okay. Yeah. See, you have bucket face shape. Okay, Heather. All right. You too. You also have you have bucket bucket face shape. Uh-huh. Yeah. Cuz you know these you're brainiacs. That's why. Uh-huh.

1:06:35 Yeah. You got you got bucket bucket face shape. That means big head, right? She's calling them a big head. And so Heather's like, "Um, well, it's not a butterface, but it's a step up. So a bucket you can puke in after, so at least that's good." Mary's like, "Yeah, well bucket face shaped people, they're they're really smart, you know. They're they're really intelligent because they take a lot of information in, you know, bucket face shaped people." And then Mary tell Mary goes on and she tells us there's oblong face, there's pie face, there's square shaped face. By the way, what's pie face?

1:07:09 Is that just circle face? Like it's not just you're not just a circle. You're a pie.

1:07:13 Okay. I look I'm looking up face shapes. I see triangle, round, square, rectangle, diamond, heart. What's this one? Oval. I don't see them called bucket face. I'm going to say face shape.

1:07:28 I don't I don't think this is official terminology. So she tells us there's oblong face, pie face, and square shaped face. I mean square shaped face. Those are the ding bats. Like if you have a square face, just know you're a dingbat. And they just show they keep showing Britney. You have a square face, you're a dingbat. This was so stupid and so hilarious. And Heather's like, "Well, I've never been complimented for a bucket shaped face before."

1:07:55 Is it like that you're bucket shaped or is that your face fits in a bucket hat? Well right.

1:08:00 I think it's the shape of a bucket. like your your face. It's wide on the top and then it's it goes down, but it's still kind of square on the bottom. I think I would have a bucket face, right?

1:08:10 Or do I have a square face? Maybe I have a square face. I can't tell. I feel like the middle I feel like you might be more like you're square in the middle, but then you're also like round on the bottom. So like you're like, you know what you are? You're like you're like pillshaped

1:08:23 like a tablet, like a gel c like a gel cap. So I would be like a pie face then. Right now I have a very round face.

1:08:28 No, you're not pie face. I think I think I think when people look I think your face is more in the c it reads more circle than square. What about mine? My waddle cut off. What will I be? A bucket face. See? Look. Bucket face. All right. Let me see what

1:08:42 I think I'm square. I think you're square. Yeah, I think because you have a very square jaw.

1:08:49 I have square. I think I think I'm more square. I've got a big chin. People may not realize this, but my chin

1:08:55 Yeah, you've got like a a cartoon like hero chin, you I've got like a moon. I'm like uh I'm like Mac the Knight from from McDonald's.

1:09:04 I think I got I got that chin that comes out this way. Yeah, but it's like Prince way, not in a moon way.

1:09:11 A Prince way. Yeah, like a Disney prince. Like a handsome square chin. It's not like a cartoon moon from a McDonald's commercial.

1:09:19 I I used to be very self-conscious about my chin. How it forward. And then people like go get that chin on purpose. Like they pay to get that chin. What are you talking about? I want that chin.

1:09:28 I used to be so self-conscious about it and then I decided gh I'll just focus on my posture. I'll just be I'll just be more self-conscious about that.

1:09:35 Why would you be self-conscious about that? That's like a huge I mean I'm not I don't want to discount your your feelings but that's those are stupid feelings because that's an amazing chin. Like people pay to get that chin.

1:09:45 I no I I don't I don't care anymore but I had a period of time. I mean I used to be

1:09:49 when you die if you die first. Can I have your chin? I'll put it in. Do you know? Do you know at one point a friend once told me, she said while we were watching Strangers with Candy, I remember this. Um, she said, "Wow, Ben, you have the flattest feet I've ever seen." And I was like, for like 5 years, I was self-conscious about my flat feet. Which is so ridiculous cuz it's like, who cares?

1:10:09 Who cares? Yeah. You can't do anything about your feet. And I've got flat feet. You know that, right? I have Fred Flintstone feet. They're flat.

1:10:15 I didn't know. We have a lot in common. Yeah. Flat feet. You know, flat feet. You know what? What divides us? Barbies and think of

1:10:24 Yeah. That's a huge divider though because we travel together a lot and that's a big thing to fight about.

1:10:30 Okay. But it's our flat feet that brings us back together. Yeah. We'll be like, "I hate my feet. I hate my feet, too. Let's eat Arby's and Wendy's." Okay. So, um now people go sit for lunch and um

1:10:44 Heather's like, "So, Angie, how many boot souls can you fit into Boot Souls?" Well, look at that.

1:10:49 It's some food they're talking about. No, no, boots. It wasn't wasn't Boots Souls. I think it was the name. I think it was the name of this. It looked like they focusing on like a potato thing at this moment. So, that's why I don't think it was Boot Souls. I'm going to look it up.

1:11:04 Greek potato dish. So, it's just bad. It's just my note reading. Okay. So, um she's like, "How many of those can you fit in your mouth?" She's like, "Well, it really depends on the amount of them." Speaking of them, what do you ladies think about the men in Greece? They are Greek. Hey, you are Greek. Like, hey, what's up? Another's like, they're so hot. Are you seeing any that you are interested in is the question? She's like, yeah, the one on that flamingo was pretty cute. And we see like 20 minutes earlier on like in the on the on the water, there's like this guy on a floating flamingo just like an average guy who just waves at them. like his only feature is that he waves at them and she's like, "Whoa, look at that hottie on a flamingo." Like this like low rent like 1987, you know, version of Slash and John Stamos mixed together. I don't know. It's kind of

1:12:03 I [ __ ] around with that guy on the flamingo. No, you didn't. Shut up, guy flamingo.

1:12:10 I know. Did I say [ __ ] around? Oops. Whoops. Ron win. I guess we'll never get

1:12:17 Are you Bronwin? Are you gonna get a number too while you're here? You have kind of thrown that out. Like a little bit of an open marriage. Are you going to get a phone number out here?

1:12:28 What? What? No. No. No. No. I didn't say that. I was looking into that. No, I didn't.

1:12:33 Yes, you did. No, not at all. Not at all. Mm-m. You said Todd and I have to talk about an open marriage. You said that.

1:12:40 No. Todd and I are not in an open marriage. He's happy and that's fine. Fine. That's fine.

1:12:45 You are not Greek right now. You're not being honest. No. You never said it. No.

1:12:50 I feel Wait a second. I feel like you're very matterof fact about it right now.

1:12:54 I am very matterof fact about it. I am. That's true. Mhm. Mhm. And then Heather clutches Bronwin's arm, which is her disar. That's the way she disarms someone before asking a nosy question. But

1:13:05 are you happy? Are you happy, Bronwin? I'm super happy. Super happy. Really? Mhm.

1:13:11 Really? You don't cry at night when you hear the crinkle of a Worther's original opening up. Are you really happy?

1:13:16 Happy. Happy. Happy. I'm happy. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Could you say something that maybe convinces us that you're really into Todd these days?

1:13:23 Mhm. I am. I'm superly. I I actually super adore Todd and we're happy and there's like no drama in my house. So, mm-

1:13:33 the worst defense of all time. Bronin, come on, Bronin. Come on, Bronin. There's no drama in our house. Okay,

1:13:39 this is like listen, every time I'm about to root for Bronwin, she does [ __ ] like this. Like, just say what you mean. Don't be another Heather. We've already got another Heather. You say one thing, then the next second that's not what you said, then you But we saw you say it. I mean, she does this [ __ ] all the time, so she can drop it. I think she does it to get the other ladies talking about it so she can blame the other ladies to Todd. She's like, "Well, the other ladies were saying this and this and this and this and then deny ever saying it." But like, we see it. It's on film.

1:14:06 Why are you denying it? And you actually got total props from the entire audience for having that conversation on camera and now you're pretending it never happened. Come on.

1:14:15 I think what happens is actually she has these moments where she says it and she's very empowered and it's very exciting for her and then she tells excuse me, she tells Todd that she said it and Todd's like, "Why would you go tell that? I don't like things being told on camera." And then she tries to fix it by denying it. And basically she like sort of crawls back into like defense like into like the must protect Todd at all cost mode.

1:14:38 Yeah. I think that that's probably that's probably true. But it's also letting Brawin off the hook and she does it all the time. So she was on a podcast. I'm sorry I don't know the name right now. I'm not trying to diss the podcast.

1:14:50 How to save the world? No. Oh, it was Joe Rogan. And she just was on Love It or Leave It. That's what it was.

1:14:59 Oh, okay. So, it must have been that. And she was saying, um, he was asking about this. She's like, so you had this conversation on camera. What was that about? And she's like, well, Mhm. Well, you know, um, I wasn't on the plane with the ladies. Right. Right. You know that, right? So, I wasn't on the plane with them. And when that Meredith thing happened and so production was saying there, we've got to have all the ladies talk about this, you know, the drama on the plane. So, they got me in the scene. Mhm. Mhm. And so when Whitney came in, I just thought the scene was going to be about her asking me about Todd on the plane with the text because that was my drama on the plane. Right. Right. Mhm. You remember that? So I thought the scene was going to be up about me and Todd and so that's why I was talking so much about me and Todd on the plane. But even that doesn't make sense because didn't

1:15:47 that start with Whitney telling her the stuff about Meredith? I mean, she just just stop lying. Just these are just inconsequential lies. She's really bobbing and weaving. Emphasis on bobbing because guess what? Generational Bob in that family. Hey yo. So, um, Heather's like, "Last time I heard about Todd, he was looking at lingerie pictures on his iPad and sleeping at a hotel. So, now they're happy, monogous, and Bronlin would never dare clutch my pearls, thinking of hooking up with a Greek man. I just I can't keep it straight."

1:16:22 So, she's like, "Well, let's be fair." She said, "Broin, I noticed you're not wearing your wedding ring. Is there something you want to announce?" And you were like, "Well, Todd moved out." And I was really hooked into that story, Bronwin, are you taking back the story? I really loved it.

1:16:37 Yep. Uh-huh. And I'm not wearing my wedding ring today. Uh-huh. And I don't wear it a lot of times cuz I wear different jewelry all the time. So, I don't really know what you're trying to prove here.

1:16:44 So, that was all a ruse that that whole conversation you had with Whitney. No, no, no. You might have added 2 plus two and gotten five there. You know, maybe it's your math that's off when you're just trying to repeat the things that I said. I think you got your math wrong. 2 plus 2 equals 5. Yeah. Unfortunately no.

1:17:00 Well, just to be fair to Bronwin, the conversation to the bottom to to be fair to her, the conversation really was Bronwin saying, "We don't have an open relationship, but I'm open to having an open relationship." But even in that conversation, she was so whiffly waffly about what she was saying. It sounded like she did have an open relationship, but wasn't ready to admit the open relationship. and her and Whitney were kind of talking around the fact that they're both probably [ __ ] other people at this point, but they wouldn't they they wouldn't go that far on camera. So, the whole thing was kind of confusing. But, um, also, even though I think Bronwin's being a liar and she's being ridiculous and it's getting on my nerves, I still am like Heather, it's not really your business. Like,

1:17:38 she can tell about that when she wants, you know? It agreed. And you're right. Bronwin said, "We are open to being open. We're open to having the I'm open to having the conversation, but that's just too nuanced for the likes of like Heather and Whitney. They just hear like open. That's all they hear. So, um it just it I guess it's funny because sometimes she's totally inconsistent sometimes where she's like like, "Girlfriend, here's how it is." And I said to Todd, "You better get to the motel. Am I right? High five everyone." And then suddenly she's like mm she becomes muzzy. She's like, "We're not going to talk about that."

1:18:15 Mm- Everything's fine. Everything's fine. Yeah, it's true. And the the reason I'm going to still kind of stay on her side, even though I think she's full of [ __ ] and they're right, is because once again, here we have someone kind of refusing to do what they want her to do. And so, they're going to turn on her in public, right? So, we have Whitney who's like because now she's mad at Bronwin for releasing the the information about the relation, the conversation she had had with Meredith. So, it's just what they did with Meredith. They're like, "Meredith, you want to come against Lisa with us?" And she's like, "No." So then they turn on Meredith and say she's a drunk on a plane. Then you've got Whitney going, "Okay, well I'm going to talk to you about this thing I'm about to do to Meredith," accusing her of being a drug addict. And then she goes and tells Meredith, "And so now we're going to get you about your open

1:18:59 relationship." Because there they could be asking Whitney the same thing, like who you [ __ ] you were sitting there talking about an open relationship, too.

1:19:06 Yeah. I also think that there's probably an element where Bronwin does not want to discuss any of this in front of Lisa Barlo cuz Lisa Barlo was the one who was like Todd just like cheating and like farting while making out and I don't think that she remember cuz that was like that broke the truce that they had made. So I also think that like maybe she would be down to like go into this more if it was just like Heather and Whitney and Mary or I don't know or whatever. But I think knowing that she's in the presence of Lisa who's gonna like use anything you say in her mind use anything you say against you. She's like I'm not talking about this here at this table. This is not this is not up for discussion right now.

1:19:45 Yeah. Well, I mean don't bring it up. My gosh. So Whitney is like well yeah but at this point it's not so much about the details or the story. It's what does Brahman want us to think cuz she put all this out there about a relationship and now she's backpedaling. So, I'm just kind of like, "What happened?" And what's real? Whitney picks up a pillow. Is this real? What about this chair? Is this real? It's like, okay, you don't have to question if everything is real.

1:20:17 Am I in the metrics? So, Mary, who's oddly the voice of reason this season, which is super weird, but I'm into because she's so funny, but she's like, "So, Bronwin, you can't pretend like it didn't happen. I mean, when you say stuff and you put it out there, it comes across as there's trouble and then you come back and you bring it back up like you can't pretend like you don't know what we're talking about or you don't know what Heather's saying. And she's like, "But I know what Heather's saying." Mhm. But I didn't say to Heather that Todd moved out. I didn't say that we separated. I didn't say that. I didn't I didn't I didn't leave.

1:20:49 Your words were, "I asked him to leave." And you didn't say it in Greek, which I did not appreciate.

1:20:54 But that's true. I mean, she is kind of playing the Meredith fight where she's like, "Well, I didn't technically say that."

1:21:01 She didn't she didn't say they separated, you know, and she didn't say he moved out. She said she kicked him out when she got mad at him and he had to stay in a hotel. So, um, Angie's like trying to harp on it. And Heather's like, "But you said it to the whole group. Am I reading it wrong?"

1:21:15 Well, this is just like so weird. This is so weird that I came to you guys like I came to you guys like really honestly. Mhm. And I don't have to explain anything that happens in my house. Mhm. Mhm. But I'm like, that's the point is that you came to them honestly and now they're trying to like kind of be gal pal kind of like, hey, we're following up on what you said and now you're acting like you never said in the first place.

1:21:36 Yes. And that's true because the show's crazy because they're all wrong so many times.

1:21:42 True. But again, this is Heather being like, um, I'm going to take one thing you said and now make it sound like you're going to be openly [ __ ] guys in Greece. You know what I mean? She's taking like I got mad at Todd and if Todd wanted an open relationship I'd be down for that. She's taking that into like why you know who do you want to [ __ ] grease? She's taking it to a whole another level. And then when you don't agree with her she's like but am I the only one hearing this? Am I taking crazy pills? Well kind of cuz you're exaggerating something that's not the truth.

1:22:13 Brunwin I was not there so I didn't hear any of this. I also am hard of hearing. Okay. I just want to remind everyone, but I've stood in your shoes, so I support the position that you're in. But from my past experience, this is probably not the end of it with this group. I'm just telling you that that was my experience. And maybe next time you might want to pack an easy breezy blazer. That's it. Not only will it not end, you're going to start seeing tick tock dances about Todd wanting to look at porn on his iPad. There was no judgment on my end. I mean, you were very open about it. Oh, no. You can judge me. Mhm. That's fine, too.

1:22:57 That's fine. I'm totally like chill with you judging me. As you can see, I'm totally totally chill. Well, what I want to know is if Lisa Barlo is going to hook up with a Greek guy. God, look at that. Bringing levity to the situation [gasps and laughter] that I made tense. And Lisa's like, "Um, you know what? John is Russian, German, Joe, and I'll just stick with that. That's like enough. That's like three different kinds of guys that can buy me a Porsche. I'm like so sick of Greece. So, um, now they go back to the villa and they have to be ready at 6:45 cuz they're going to go shopping and go to dinner um, in like in town and everything. So, everyone's getting ready and Heather knocks on Mary's door and Heather's like, "Okay, all right. Let's close the door for this conversation. I don't know what's going on with Meredith for someone that I feel like I have such a good relationship with in this sisterhood. It blows my

1:23:47 mind that she can you have make little cutting comments and call me a liar and never really like truly apologize and make it right. We just move on like nothing ever happened.

1:23:58 Could you just make that shorter? Sure. So, I'm coming into your room to enlist you to have a fight with Meredith by proxy so I don't have to.

1:24:07 Oh, okay. Got it. Yeah. Heather's like, "Oh Jesus, I'm bored." Like, "Oh my god, this fight's so stupid." So, Meredith has pulled Heather aside. She wants to talk one-on-one, but Heather's not interested in one-on-one because um she says that Meredith will twist and turn anything she says in private and make it into something else, which is what I've been accusing Heather of this whole season. So, I'm like, "Okay."

1:24:31 Yeah. Heather wants witnesses and she also wants to have like the primary fight of the episode. So,

1:24:38 yeah. And she wants everybody to fight Meredith for her because if it's just her, you know, she's she's not going to win. She needs everybody there, you know, beating the one person down. That's how she rolls.

1:24:48 So Heather's saying basically basically like by not engaging with me, she's actually dismissing my friendship. And Mary says, "Well, okay. Well, then say it to her face. I mean, you need to be more direct and tell her how you feel cuz she listens to you." She goes, "Well, I don't know what to say to her cuz I've been so direct." And she takes it as a personal attack. I mean, every single time I tell her that she's, you know, totally unreliable and she's a monster on a plane and she should have been locked up by TSA, she just take that as a personal attack. It's ridiculous.

1:25:12 It's crazy. I like how she says Meredith won't engage. She's engaged with you every single time you brought it up. You just don't like the answer, which is you're a liar. And so Mary's like, "Well, I was raised to tell people how I feel and be honest, but I don't think that these women are capable of being able to just say how they honestly feel just because they worry about things that don't matter, like other people's feelings." Just [snorts] kidding. I said I'm a preacher. Did I just say that? Okay. Uh, so now everyone's ready except for Lisa. And Angie's ready to go cuz like and they Angie wants to go out to the town. The sun will be setting. It'll be beautiful. Blah blah blah. And but Lisa is still in glam. Angie's like, "We are on the other side of the world." And you've got people here to powder your nose. It's a reflection of what Lisa feels is most important in life. Not what's on the inside, but what people

1:26:00 see on the outside. This is Angie's new thing that she's doing this episode. Like she says it like 10 more times. She cares about the outside, not on the inside. But doesn't don't you realize the best part of Spanicopa is not the pho, it's the spinach and the feta. So they all get into a golf cart and meanwhile Lisa's just in glam like, "Make it Greek. Give me the Greekst makeup you can. I just like put Saziki on my eyes. I don't even care. I want to be the Greekst person at dinner." Lisa's never been happier. She is sitting there. She's getting someone's putting makeup on her face. She is like so happy. She's like, "Oh, I love that.

1:26:36 Show me your brush." That's a nice brush. That's a really nice brush. Wait a second. What do you have there? Is that a pencil? Can I see the pencil? Oh my god, such a nice pencil. You have a Cardier watch. I know you didn't cuz you're not a copycat. I love you so much. So, they just leave Lisa. And um now they're walking down the street in Greece and Whitney's like, "Should I put my thumb out? Wait, maybe that's offensive in Greek."

1:26:59 And then she just falls. She just falls. She wipes out like actually I am impressed that a she didn't rip anything. She didn't have any like scrapes or was wasn't bleeding. I mean that was like she wiped out half on asphalt half on gravel. I mean I feel like and and of all the times that Heather could have made a joke be like wow she's so unsteady in Utah we should have known that when she came to Greece wow where are the Greek gods to help her now? I mean she was sliding down to Hades with the way she felt. I mean like this is like a Heather moment. She didn't even say anything.

1:27:33 [clears throat] So, some hot guy comes and helps her up and Whitney's like, "Heather, a hot guy came and saved me." If you were driving, if you were one of those motorists and saw Whitney wipe out for no good reason on the side of the road. Like, could you even imagine? Could you even imagine just seeing Whitney wipe out on the side of the road in your honk?

1:27:55 Um, she's like, "I want you. Wait, everyone. I want to I want to do this is my new visual presentation of what happened to Wild Rose Beauty. [gasps] Why haven't we mentioned Prism? Where is that? So, um I'm just curious. Why haven't they mentioned that yet?

1:28:17 Uh Prismard Wild Rose. No, because Wild Rose Beauty is a beauty products and then Prism was the jewelry line where she was buying everything from Alibaba and then marking it up times 200 or whatever. That was last year's thing.

1:28:31 So anyway, Angie's like or two years ago, I don't remember. So Angie's like, "Uh, I wonder what Lisa's doing now. She's probably still in glam." And Heather's like, "How long does it take to do glam?" And they're all like, "Oh my god, it took me two seconds." And Wendy's like, "Yeah, I did my own glam with Heather's makeup." Like, oh yeah, you guys are all so ridiculous. You all do. Glam. Just stop.

1:28:53 Well, to be fair, Whitney does look like the Joker. She has like her lipstick going up to her cheek. Like,

1:29:00 yeah, I know. I don't know that I would trust all of your own glam. Anyway, look at Britney. Britney looks like she's doing Kabuki theater over there. She's got like a completely white face and then the rest of her is like tan. So Heather says, "I mean, I would hate to be crippled with that type of insecurity about my physical appearance that I would arrive alone, but clearly confidence and insecurity are not a problem for Lisa Barlo." I'm like, Heather, have you

1:29:24 like You're on your 30th face. I don't I don't [gasps] I want to support people doing what they want to do for their for their faces and their insecurities, but like stop acting like I mean, we've heard your story about the Bolero jacket, okay? Your entire your entire your entire persona is about insecurity and how you've been meant been ma made to feel insecure by the Mormon church.

1:29:48 Your whole industry is built on insecurity. Your entire empire is built on just stop. Just stop it right now.

1:29:56 I was cracking up at that just Heather like with that face being like people's insecurity. So sad.

1:30:05 Now this here's what I will say. I do love that by and large they, you know, like Rooney, Salt Lake City, by and large the glam is not a major presence. Like on Rooney, they didn't even have glam squads really. I don't think until um um Ebony showed up and she had like a glam squad down remember in the basement like Ramona's basement or something. But like uh I you know as opposed to Beverly Hills where it's just like endless endless glam squad. you know, the Glam Squads, I believe, single-handedly ruined Beverly Hills and um that's really all I have to say about that. I I don't really have anywhere to go with that except like let's

1:30:42 Well, it's like I think you're saying like normally it's you know, you would be complaining about the glam stuff too if it's overdone, but like in this case it's hilarious because Lisa is so attached to it and like when they showed the clip of her being in Palm Springs and refusing to, you know, not bring her glam person being like, "I have a glam person in Sanrope. I have a glam person in Capri. I have a glam person in Angie's Porsche. Like everywhere.

1:31:10 It feels sometimes like it's all she has. Yeah. Like let her have it. Let her have it.

1:31:14 Yeah. Um so well it's also funny like like it's one thing if you say like I don't like that Lisa is putting glam in front of like this friendship moment that we're all having. We're all going to go out together and she's putting glam before us. I think that's totally valid. But to be like, she's so insecure that she has to have glam. I'm like, um,

1:31:36 please, please. Um, please. Secure people don't go on Real Housewives in the first place. Let's al let's also be honest. So, um, Heather, Whitney, Britney, and I say this as an insecure person myself. Hello.

1:31:47 Well, I'm insecure. Do I need to talk about the flat feet again? I'm going to Botox tomorrow. I'm on the Ompic. Like, I've got my my upper bluff done. Listen, I'm I think we all have it to a degree. It's just hilarious that someone who's had that much work and it's done to the point that it's gotten now where it's to the point now it's like self harm. You know, at this point it's like you you're looking like a child's toy. Stop it. Stop doing this to yourself in the name of insecurity. You know,

1:32:12 people who live in glass med spas shouldn't throw wrestl. Anyway, um they are they they're walking around Santorini. They come around a corner where there's this really scenic view where you can see across the island. It's like this beautiful shot. The the lights are coming on and everything. And Heather decides that she's going to cry because she knows it'll make a nice moment. And Angie's like, "Heather's the friend that you want to take on a trip because she values the moment and she feels it so deeply and she is so grateful and she just takes it in." Meanwhile, Heather's like, "There's the guy with the flamingo. I see him down there.

1:32:53 I [ __ ] that guy." No, you didn't. Um, she's just so grateful and she just takes it in. And that's what I wanted for everyone. That's what I wanted for Lisa. Oh, yeah. You really wanted this nice moment for Lisa. Then why are you on her ass every scene of every episode? I wouldn't come early if I was Lisa either. I'd stay nice and cuddled up with my glam girl, too. You guys are relentless. Fight with somebody else.

1:33:20 Also, don't forget her glam girl is from Athens. So, pretty cool. Yeah. So then Meredith Bronwin and Mary are shopping and Mary's like, "Meredith, Meredith, um I feel like uh you and Heather have hit a rough rough spot." Well, I don't know. I mean, I have to presume everything's fine. I mean, I cuz I called her after last week and she didn't call me back. So, if she wanted to talk, I would think she would call me back. And I said something to her also today, but she hasn't seemed to want to do that. So, it's okay. Like, if she doesn't want to address it, that's fine. We can move on.

1:33:52 But as far as I can tell, I'm kind of a bucket-shaped face trying to reach out to another bucket shaped face. And she's acting very squareface at the moment, if you know what I'm saying. And she's like, "You need to be vulnerable and talk to each other." And so then we go to Heather and Whitney and Angie and Britney and Lisa comes up and she's like, "Oh my god, look at you guys. Hi. Hi. How are you? Love that. Guess what? I'm basically Greek now. I am Greek. I've been all over Greece. It's It was amazing. Did you guys see the sunset?

1:34:22 Like, I took selfies in the sunset. And it's so funny cuz while they were showing the ladies like, "Oh my god, we're bonding." And Lisa is so shallow. Not bonding at all. It kept cutting to Lisa walking by herself, just taking selfies at the sunset or like taking selfies in front of the store, just having the best time of her life.

1:34:39 I can't figure Lisa out. Like, what really matters to you? The glam and the material things or your friendships? I mean, you guys are all shopping right now. I don't know if you you're like angry that Lisa's missing out on shopping in Santorinia. Like I can't believe she cares about material things more than us as we shop for material things.

1:34:58 Yeah, exactly. I love that I got to explore parts of Santorini by myself cuz I found some killer Birkenstocks and there wasn't any negativity. You know what? I love a little me time and it's great because the Burks were like the only style that's ever been sold of this particular Burke. though. I'm already I've already got Burks that are better than everyone else's Burks. My Burks are great.

1:35:21 I love her Santorini Birkenstocks. So Lisa is like, "Yeah, by the way, like look, I use this as like glam and inspo. Like look at this. Isn't this nice? Like it's me. It's a selfie of me." And Whitney's like, "Is that your wallpaper?" Yeah. Make it my wallpaper. So we can keep seeing it. Isn't that great? Of course she has a selfie of herself as her wallpaper.

1:35:45 Well, did you see any me any beautiful views? Yes, I did. I just showed it to you. It's on my wallpaper. Stupid. So Auntie's like I mean the fact that she would be what? 2 3 hours late and then be in sunglasses. That's just odds.

1:36:03 I mean I do think that sucks. I don't I don't like that Lisa should have three hours late to like a shooting and also being with your friends like that is like I think that you I understand wanting to have alone time but you use the designated time for your alone time. I don't know. I think 3 hours late is too late.

1:36:19 I do that all trips where I'm like okay I'll see you later. I'm going to do this other thing and then I meet up with my friends later and no one no one yet has had a fit about it. I feel like on on like a group trip if I say guys I'm going to do my own thing it's like fine. I kind of feel like on a real housewife show just being like I'm gonna go I don't know. I I don't know. I I think if you if you're going to be like I'll meet up with you and then you're 3 hours later. I don't know. I find that that like that's like oddly disrespectful versus like hey guys I'm just going to do my own thing for this afternoon because I need some downtime. I'm like, "Sure, do it, but don't make me feel like you're showing up like 20 minutes later, but it's gonna be three hours later, you know."

1:36:59 Well, if it was three hours because first I said two, then it became three. It's, you know, as a Salt Lake City timing. It's like I'm just saying.

1:37:06 Well, I think she was saying, "I'm going to go to dinner. I'll meet you at dinner." So, she met them at dinner. So, look, I just feel like they're all ganging up all the time. So, I'm just going to give levity because

1:37:16 they're not at all ever. It's like constant. It's just [ __ ] constant. So, I'm like, "Just do what you want. I don't blame you.

1:37:23 I You know what it is? I I I love when someone is like realistic with me about when they're going to meet up with me. And if someone says, "I'll meet you out there." If I'm like excited, like if I'm like, "Oh my god, let's all do this thing together." If I've arranged something for us all to do together, and someone says, "I'll catch up with you." And then they don't show up for 3 hours or not at all. Like that bothers me. It really does. And I It doesn't take away from the fact that like I think there's a way to be like, "I want to have I'm just going to do my own Like I'm totally fine if someone says, "I want to do my own thing, but don't let me think that you're going to be participating in the thing that I like the thing that I'm arranging."

1:37:57 Did she? And then do your own thing. Yeah, I think she did. I think she was like, "I'll I'll join you guys." Or like if if if Angie said, "We're going to meet at 6:45." And she says, "Okay, sure." But then she has no intention of it. Like I don't like that personally, but I've had to deal with it.

1:38:13 Oh, okay. So they go up to dinner. Did we see Lisa say that she was What did Lisa say?

1:38:18 Nothing. She was in glam. She's like, "Bye. Okay, bye." They're like, "We're leaving you." And she said, "Okay, bye." [gasps] I don't know. I don't think it's that deep, but I can see where I can see where you're coming from. How that would get annoying.

1:38:32 Well, as someone who has been flaked a lot by people in my life, I don't It's a trigger for me.

1:38:36 Okay. Well, you're you're allowed to be triggered. Okay. So, then they go up to go to dinner and Meredith is like, "Oh, well, Angie just wants to make sure we stay skinny. That's why [clears throat] we're climbing up this big hill to go have dinner. Easy, breezy, beautiful blazer.

1:38:56 Thank God for the blazer. So then um uh we see that u Meredith has also bought a bracelet for Heather as a peace offering a necklace and she puts this box.

1:39:07 It's a necklace. And you know what? It's scary because we all know what this means. This is an evil eye necklace. And anybody who watches Real Housewives of Orange County knows how dramatic this actually is.

1:39:16 Well, so this is what I was confused about because we see in the flashback that she's getting um like the evil eye thing, but then when she gives it to Heather, there's no talk about evil eye. And in fact, Heather's like,

1:39:28 "It's an H." So, I wonder if she changed it up before she purchased. Yeah. Maybe one of the producers was like, "We've seen Orange County. Don't do it." So she's like, "Okay, I'll get her an H instead

1:39:40 for hassle." Hassle for hazy hazy habreezy hablazer. So for how do you know how loud I was on the airplane? And so Mary's like, "It's a peace offering, Heather." And Heather's like, "Well, should I wait till everyone's here? Can I open it now? It's an age." And Brainwoman's like, "Yeah, she's she's trying to make up with you, Heather." That's what she's trying to do. She goes, "Well, it's not going to work, but it is a wonderful gesture. I feel like she's treating me like the woman who's been cheated on. Just give me a few gifts without being specific about what it's about, and we're going back to normal."

1:40:28 Okay. So, the waiter comes around and gives everyone a blanket. And they're like, "Oh, thank you for the blank. I like that Meredith didn't take it. She's like, "No, thank you. My outfit is pre-chosen by Chloe." Thank you very much. I uh Thank you for the offer of a beautiful blanket, but as you can see, I already have a blazer that's shielding me from the wind. Thank you very much. Oh, look at Lisa just getting all the love here in Greece. The Greeks are taking such good care of her. These are Greek blankets. Aren't they different than normal blankets? There's just so much more to see. Can you be on time tomorrow, Lisa? And she's like, "Okay, I can be on time tomorrow, I guess."

1:41:08 I didn't know there were mosquitoes in Greece, and there's a big one across from me. I just want to smack it. Is that mosquito reference? Has nothing to do with anything. No one was talking about mosquitoes, but like it's kind of a funny joke if you think about it, right? So, um, they eat in silence because they know it's fighting time. So they're all just Bronnin especially is just looking around like, "Okay, who's gonna fight? Please don't make it be me. Please don't make it be me." [gasps] And so Mary's like, "Okay, well Heather came and asked me to do this."

1:41:37 So Meredith and Heather gay, are you guys okay? You guys should talk. Do it now. Do it before appetizers. Just go. So fight. Heather's like, "Well, when I opened my necklace and I put it on, which I love, Meredith, Bronwin kept saying it's a peace offering from Meredith." Yep. Mhm. I did say that. Mhm. Yep. Yep. I did say that. Well, you seem very I I don't want to use the wrong words, but tense with me. And I said, well, I'll bring her a gift as a peace offering because if I do seem to remember, they gave many gifts in the feature film Crazy Rich Asians, which I did watch. And I think that's a nice thing. And if you don't think it's nice, then don't keep it. But it's up to you.

1:42:17 I mean, I was just trying to be nice person because I think we can all agree I'm a nice person on airplanes and on land. I love when Meredith does like her um victim shrug thing where she's like, "Mom, hands up. I was just trying to be nice. If you don't want it, you want to keep it. I'm just trying to be [clears throat] nice. You can you can leave it." So Heather's like, "Well, first of all, I'm not rejecting the gift. I'm just saying let's talk about it first." Well, I wasn't looking to do it as a group, Heather. And Angie's like, "Well, we are here and we are Greek."

1:42:56 And Meredith's like, "Well, I called you and I reached out again this morning." So, shrug and hands off. I did everything that I could do. She wants to start this with the group to rile people up to start on me again. And it's clear that Heather doesn't have respect for our friendship.

1:43:14 So, she just feels calm. I was She's definitely doing the what? She's doing the like I'm just being a good friend. Being innocent good friend. Good innocent Meredith. She's totally doing that thing like well you know I you know I tried to buy her a yacht and she wouldn't accept it. So what else can I do? I actually think Meredith is being fair here. I mean she's she tried to call Heather. Heather wouldn't call her back. Then she tried to talk to Heather get time alone with Heather. Heather wouldn't give her the alone time. And then Heather's going to be up here acting like Meredith hasn't even reached out to me. She hasn't even tried to make it okay. Which is not true. She has twice and you've ignored her. And so now you're going to try and make her look stupid again in public. So I kind of like that Meredith came with this attitude and she's like, I'm going to stay calm and the most I'm going to do

1:44:02 is bug my eyes and struggle a lot with my hands up. I don't think Meredith is at fault on this at all, but I just think it's funny because last time she was just like, "You all are liars and here is a peacup and you we're going to see if you did drugs." And now she's like, "Well, I just brought you a gift and you know, I tried my best." I just love like the pivot to like like I'm going to be friendly Meredith now. So Meredith is like, "Well, Heather, it's not something I can address as a group. It's just not." That's when she goes from the shrug and the hands up to the I'm gonna lean forward and tell you in my best legal expert voice, this is unfortunately we cannot proceed right now. We're going to have to have a special hearing. So, unfortunately, we can't do this in front of people. And if you don't use your fork properly, you can leave the table, young lady. She's giving that look like, do you want to

1:44:52 push money at dinner? You assassinated my character after I assassinated your character. And that dejected our history and our friendship. No, I did not. I did not. You did. And my loyalty. You dejected my loyalty. No, I did not. I'm not sure how to speak to somebody like this. I've never been in a situation where it's just like a stone wall of denial. Unlike Jen Sha,

1:45:24 the new newly freed Jen Sha, your best friend of three years that you stuck up for till the second she was in prison

1:45:31 that one. And Meredith is like, um, that is not true either, Heather. And it's so funny watching her stay calm cuz you can see under like veins popping out. And Heather's like, "Well, that happened. That happened. You questioned my loyalty while I was trying to get Whitney to call you a drug addict." And she's like, "Well, I'm saying that my feelings were hurt." Well, my feelings were hurt, too. And I apologize, and you apologize, so I don't know why we're still talking about it. He was very, very I was very, very hurt by you calling me a liar. Only I get to call people liars. Well, I did not call you a liar. Well, I felt like you called me a liar. Um, but you know what?

1:46:16 Everybody makes mistakes in friendships and like you can't like constantly hold people to this like crazy standard that you don't even hold yourself and that's like exhausting. Are you talking to me or are you talking to Heather? Um, whoever I'm not going to get in the most trouble with is who I'm talking to.

1:46:33 Yeah, it's like a little ridiculous that Heather plays judge Judy in every situation. She's like, "You're the bad one. You did this. You're awful. And I'm a better friend to you." And it's like, why the [ __ ] are you judging her so harshly? Why are you peeing on her leg and telling her it's raining? Everyone preaches, "I want good friendships and I want to be good and I want people to be good to me, but be good to everybody." Like, practice what you preach. Oh my god, that was like as good as like when I said the thing about mosquitoes. Did you guys hear the mosquitoes thing I said? Was so funny.

1:47:04 My Athens girl, she laughed so hard. So Lisa's like, "Well, why is it okay for you to express your feelings but not Meredith?" And Heather's like, "I'm not just like being a yes man anymore." Part of that trust is saying, "Listen, there's a huge problem." When have you ever been a yes man? You've been doing this the whole time. You just call yourself a yes man, but then you go against everybody and say that you're such a good friend to them as you're ripping them to shreds on national TV. Hey bye.

1:47:28 Lisa's like, "Listen, I know how you feel." Heather, wait a second. Can Meredith speak for herself? Yes. Yes. Yes. You speak for her. Yes, you speak for her, Lisa. No, I don't. But like you guys had like you like like you guys had like a miss over there. Like you guys missed something over there. Okay. You guys had a miss.

1:47:44 Whitney is saying, "Can Meredith speak for herself?" You were literally just in her cabin asking her to go against Lisa for you and Heather. So quiet over there. And by the way, while this is going on, Whitney is really working on her eyes. She keeps like pushing her eyes and like putting a napkin in her eyes trying to muster up some tears. And I was like, "What is she doing over there?" Which we see soon. So then Heather has a monologue because it's Heather. So she's like, "We I ride hard or die from Meredith from day one."

1:48:14 And when she brought up that Tik Tok, I completely defended you. And then the next morning at breakfast, you came in guns ablazing. And I said, "Listen, you're freaking out over a Tik Tok and there's much bigger bombs placed in your lap that you've chosen to ignore and look the other way." Okay. So now you're mad because she's mad over the Tik Tok when she hasn't been mad over other things. Why wouldn't she be mad about a rumor that her husband's [ __ ] around that someone's bringing on to national TV? What bigger bombs are you talking about? And she's like, "And then you chose to pick this Tik Tok as the reason to annihilate your friendship with me."

1:48:48 No, you chose this Tik Tok as the reason to annihilate your friendship with her. What do you This is frustrating.

1:48:54 Heather has this giant monologue. Something else. Heather has this giant monologue about like and you're no you're using it to anni I feel like you're using as a reason to annihilate your friendship with me with Whitney and with Britney and you are selective about what you have outrage for. So she has this whole big thing where she's like sticking the landing and Merit just looks at her and just goes I don't agree with you. I don't agree with you. So she's like, "Okay, and if you want to hold a grudge against me over it, then that's fine. That's up to you." She like, "But like how are you flipping this on me? This isn't on me." Heather, this was something that happened between her and Britney. Britney, let it go.

1:49:37 Everybody has let it go except you and Whitney who will not stop. You will not stop. Let it go. Everybody's let it go but you. She's like, "Oh my god, how is this flipping on me? I'm not holding a grudge. I'm not lying about you. You said you misspoke and I misspoke and we met in the middle. Well, I would never do that to you. When you hurt my feelings the way that you did, I would never just be like, "You misspoke, I misspoke. I thought we'd moved on." But apparently, you're so petty that you haven't. You haven't.

1:50:08 I thought this was actually exactly how she and Whitney dealt with their fight in season 3, but that's okay. So, Lisa,

1:50:14 she actually called you to go hang out and talk about this. So, no, she's not just saying, "I misspoke. You misspoke. Let's move on." She actually saw that you hadn't moved on and tried to make an effort, further effort with you and you refused so that you could have this little breakdown in front of everybody at the table.

1:50:29 Honestly, people need to get crap is on demand because to watch you ranting and raving right now while Beller's legs behind are stretching and doing some sort of like synchronized swimming over your shoulder is like the funniest thing of all time. You're like, "And another thing about Heather Gay. She's saying this. And then meanwhile, you just see these two little paws behind your shoulder like doing like B's and Y's and X's.

1:50:52 He knows we're talking about. Yes, we are talking about you. Gorgeous man. You gorgeous creature.

1:51:00 All right, let's land the plane. So Lisa says, "Heather, I feel like you do things that are hurtful to me and I don't know why you do because I'm not doing anything to you." Cry. I'm invested in our friendship and when you said things like that that you said at vultures, you know, mean things. Remember when you said mean things. And basically it was Heather saying like, "Don't be [ __ ] Don't be bitchy." "Well, you don't be [ __ ] Don't be bitchy." "Well, you don't be [ __ ] either." And I just would never do that to you. I would never do that. It actually hurt my feelings.

1:51:31 So then Whitney, now we see why Whitney's been working up her big fake tears because she acts like she's crying now. on. She's like, "Well, the bigger thing that we're dancing around is we're protecting something that happened." And I just feel like I see it so clearly. I'm watching my friends fight and we're all fighting because of the way that you treated Britney on the plane. And I don't know why you can't just say I [ __ ] up cuz I just feel right now. It's like Whitney, I already did all that. Britney and I spoke and we worked it out.

1:52:06 Look at the table right now. Look at it. It's a rectangle. Isn't that amazing? A rectangle table. Oh, there. Do you want to literally look at the table? And the people, too. Look at it. Well, Britney, did we work it out? Britney, would you like to say something? Uh, so Britney's kind of like, well,

1:52:23 Britney's like, I'm not saying [ __ ] She's just sitting there like she's like, I signed a document that said we are good. Okay.

1:52:32 [clears throat] Um, so Britain, uh, so Whitney's like, "Well, what clearly has happened, Meredith, is you messed up, but we're all paying the [ __ ] price." What price are you paying? You bring it up every scene. Stop. And she's like, "I recognize your behavior, so now she's going to cry and like insinuate that it's a dad thing again because of alcohol." I mean, she's too much, just Whitney. I can't. And what are you having to pay the [ __ ] price for? You're the ones who keep bringing it up every day, every scene. So Meredith's like, "Well, she's been the pastor in this group from day one. She is the cause of every problem. She projects everything she does onto everybody else over and over again. And we let it go and give her a free pass cuz she's always on a healing journey.

1:53:18 I don't think you have a problem, but I think you're the problem right now." And Mer goes, "Well, everyone at this table has done things probably much worse." And on that note, I am going to stand up and move this easy breezy blazer to a different location. Um, they're like, "Wait a minute. Mary, are Meredith, are you leaving? Wait, hold on. Hold on." And Heather's like, "Well, I'm obviously in trouble for saying how I really felt." And she's not going to say anything cuz she wants to support her. And then Whitney makes a scissoring gesture like, "Yeah, cuz they're like scissoring." And then Britney like giggles at it. She's like, "Oh my god, that was so funny."

1:54:01 So, but now they're going to reframe everything that just happened and I'm going to end up apologizing again for ever having an opinion. I feel worse now than I did when I came to dinner cuz I've been victimized by Mormonism and Meredith. Ridiculous. So, she's like, "Yeah, you know, I just this reminds me of where I'm at in rank of like importance." Oh, god. Poor insecure Heather Gay. Here's where you're at. You're at a very high level of annoying. Get something else to talk about. None of this even involved you.

1:54:35 Yeah. So, that's where it ends. The first episode of The Greek Trip, and I'm sure this fight will be revisited about 10 more times before this is over.

1:54:45 Oh my god. Meredith on a plane. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for being here. This has been a good time. We will be back. Um, are we doing Oh, yeah. We'll we'll definitely be back next week. God, look at me already making it Christmas break. I'm like, well, see you later. See you in the new year, everybody. Goodbye.

1:55:04 I wouldn't mind, guys. We're off for the rest of the month. I would love it. But no, that is not the case. Uh, we will be back next week. We'll be back the rest of the week with more recaps. We sure love you guys. Thanks for being here. Bye. Bye.

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What is discussed in "RHOSLC S613 : Agreek to Disagreek"?

In order: 0:00 Aunt Rita, Amazon Live, Amazon TV, Athena; 10:00 Aunt Rita, Bronwin, Angie Harmon, Days of Our Lives; 20:00 Santorini, Aunt Rita, Barbados, Carmen Electra; 30:00 Meredith Marks, Santorini; 40:00 Park Overall, FarmVille, Heather Gay, Pantheon; 50:00 Meredith Marks, Ronnie, Whopper; 1:00:00 Strangers with Candy, Lisa Barlo; 1:10:00 Bronwin, John Stamos, Lisa Barlo, Love It or Leave It; 1:20:00 Lisa Barlo, Bronwin, Kabuki, Wild Rose Beauty; 1:30:00 Santorini, Birkenstocks, Bronwin, evil eye; 1:40:00 Bronwin, Crazy Rich Asians, Heather Gay, Judge Judy; 1:50:00 Heather Gay, Crap Is On Demand, Mormonism.

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How long is "RHOSLC S613 : Agreek to Disagreek"?

The episode runs 1 h 55 min; the transcript is about 22,930 words in 363 timestamped sections.

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