Change Anxiety, Ellen Huet, Tax-icity | Fact Check for Ellen Huet

What this episode is about

The discussion centers on the theme of change anxiety in the context of urban transformation, specifically reflecting on the significant alterations to coastal areas like Malibu due to development and climate-related challenges. The conversation highlights personal observations of altered landscapes, the impact of construction, and the psychological effects of witnessing change in familiar environments.

Key takeaways

• Building in LA: where permits are brutal, but houses spring up like daisies after a rain.
• Subconscious navigation: you can drive familiar roads with blind faith while the landscape dramatically changes.
• New house anxiety: because it’s not just brick and mortar; it’s the ghosts of every past nightmare lurking.
• Framing a house takes days; finishing one? Prepare for an emotional marathon of years.
• Embrace change anxiety: it’s just your brain matchmaking excitement with the jitters of moving day.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Dax Shepard (Host) · 15 min speaking
• Ellen Huet (Guest) · 10 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 5:00 – 10:00: Revisionist History, Frankenstein, Elizabeth Olsen, Jennifer Jacob
2. 10:00 – 15:00: Revisionist History
3. 15:00 – 20:00: Revisionist History, Veronica Mars, Elon Musk, Walter Isacson
4. 20:00 – 25:00: Arowan

Notable quotes from "Change Anxiety, Ellen Huet, Tax-icity | Fact Check for Ellen Huet"

• >> Oh, that's fun. Yeah, he's in town, so he's going to join us for a family dinner. And then Frankenstein, which I haven't seen.

  about Frankenstein · at 7:36

• >> I don't ever know when a new season comes out of Revisionist History.

  about Revisionist History · at 9:38

• >> Yeah. when we had Walter Isacson on, we talked so much about this and I thought it was great where he talks about the commons and the way that this country was.

  about Walter Isacson · at 18:30

• That's very in keeping with what you're saying. That said, I also posted about Veronica Mars. It's on Netflix. People should go watch Veronica Mars on Netflix.

  about Veronica Mars · at 19:28

• >> And we thought it was Arowan. And I just wonder if people even know that Arowan is nowhere spelled backwards.

  about Arowan · at 23:33

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Elon Musk — Person · Referenced business figure (example in tax/commons argument) · 1 mention · first at 18:53
  Used as an example of benefiting from California's ecosystem to build Tesla, then relocating to Texas for lower taxes.
  >> Yeah. Like people like to make a big deal out of the fact that Elon did successfully move Tesla to Texas, >> right? But it's a little…
• Walter Isacson — Person · Referenced prior guest / author-expert · 1 mention · first at 18:30
  Cited as a prior guest whose discussion of “the commons” supports the hosts’ argument about taxes funding shared public goods.
• Jennifer Jacob — Person · Referenced actor (motivating family viewing choice) · 1 mention · first at 7:49
  Mentioned as being in 'Frankenstein', which motivates the children to watch a potentially scary movie.
  >> And I've gotten my children willing to watch what is on the surface a scary movie because Jacob Lord's in it.
• Elizabeth Olsen — Person · Referenced actor (part of film recommendation) · 1 mention · first at 8:19
  Named as a lead in the recommended movie 'Eternity', used to describe the cast and sell the feel-good appeal.
  It is Elizabeth Olsen and Miles Teller and Callum Turner and it's a romcomish.
• Miles Teller — Person · Referenced actor (part of film recommendation) · 1 mention · first at 8:19
  Named as a lead in the recommended movie 'Eternity' alongside Elizabeth Olsen and Callum Turner.
  It is Elizabeth Olsen and Miles Teller and Callum Turner and it's a romcomish.

Books & papers

• Revisionist History — Book · Primary recommendation · 3 mentions · first at 9:39
  Discussed as a podcast series with a focus on its content about genius types and country music, leading to a recommendation.

Companies & orgs

• Arowan — Company · Incidental mention · 2 mentions · first at 23:23
  Mentioned in passing as a topic of conversation, with a note about its name being 'nowhere' spelled backwards.

Media & podcasts

• Veronica Mars — Media · Primary recommendation · 1 mention · first at 19:29
  Actively recommended as a show to watch on Netflix, described as one of the speaker's favorite shows.
• Frankenstein — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at 7:40
  Mentioned as a movie to watch, with discussion about its perceived scariness and the presence of Jacob Lord.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:01 We hope you enjoyed this episode. Unfortunately, they made some mistakes. >> Hello. >> Hello. >> How are they? >> Good. It's almost the weekend. >> I'm very pumped about the weekend. >> It's been a very big week. >> Very, very big week. Lots and lots of episodes. And I filmed this week. >> Yeah. which meant going to Long Beach. I was on the west side, which I never am. And I've been meaning to go look at the Palisades in Malibu.

0:36 >> Oh, yeah. >> Have you been? >> No, I haven't. Well, no. >> It's a crazy drive just cuz I have, you know, I've driven Sunset to the beach so many times in my 10 years of living in Santa Monica. So, like I know how it's supposed to feel and I know how the PCH is supposed to feel leaving Santa Monica and driving up to Malibu. >> Mhm. >> And it's also was it was it was interesting to me how much of it all you log without knowing, right? Like your subconscious knows like as you're driving, you know where you're at based on all these kind of markers that you're not really paying attention to that you know. I kept going like I don't know cuz just like the entire side of the PCH on the left side is gone. There's none of those houses are there.

1:20 >> So crazy. >> It's so crazy. >> Are there is there like construction happening? Did you see? >> So in the Palisades, it's insane how many houses are framed there already. >> Oh, there are. Okay. >> Yeah. I think I had this very pessimistic fear that like given the restraints of building permits and stuff in LA, which can be brutal. >> Yeah. >> I'm like when will they and will people even try?

1:43 >> Right. >> And there's just houses everywhere. Like >> so you are seeing them even though it's like >> they're mostly just framed or they're you know uh >> I was thinking as you would know better than anyone I was like it's so deceptive when if you build a house when you see it framed you're like oh I have a house I'll be in this in 10 minutes and you're like oh no you're it hasn't even begun.

2:05 >> I know. >> And they frame these houses they frame them in a few days. It's like insane how quickly they build the physical wooden structure of it. >> I know. And then you're just years out from before that final piece of tile goes in. >> I know. Speaking of that, I'm coming real I'm close. I'm close. Everyone >> ticky to talk >> to moving in. I mean, I'm like >> like what's left?

2:30 >> Exactly. Like >> what pretty necklaces you have on today. >> Thank you. I have two necklaces on. Um I'm like less than two WEEKS OUT. >> NO WAY. >> YES. >> And it's really exciting. Callie um came to visit me yesterday and she was telling the designer, she was like, "You know, Monica and I built our, you know, we had to design our dorm room >> and now this is where she gets to live." And she was very proud and happy for me.

3:01 I'm lucky and I'm excited. And I I also though I keep having nightmares. >> Oh, wonderful. What type of nightmares? >> I don't know. I'm not a big nightmare gal. Yeah, >> I don't really have many, >> but I've been having a lot more lately. And I I think it I assume has to do with this big huge transition that's coming that I again I'm so grateful. Yeah. >> To be able to do and so lucky.

3:31 >> But you have change anxiety as as we've well >> documented. Yes. Change isn't my um it doesn't come that easy to me. The nightmares are like murdery and and stuff like that. >> Oh, like you're afraid to be in the new house >> by myself. >> Uhhuh. >> So, I think I already it was that's been lingering a little bit for a long time like like it's that's a big house, you know, and now it's coming like I'm about it's and and it feels >> a little it's so exciting, but it is a little scary. There's so many. I feel like I shouldn't even say this on here, but there's multiple entry points.

4:09 >> Well, to home. I think they might have concluded there's not a single entrance. What if you had to leave your front door under the street and then walk around to get on your deck? >> That'd be great. Go to your pool. >> I feel like I should I should lock up the rest of I should make it hard. Yeah. >> Why don't you have um young Jess come stay at your house the first week or something? >> I know. I'm thinking about that. And I'm thinking about trying to do, you know, kind of ease my way in and have some people stay.

4:37 >> Um I just then then they leave >> and there will be a day or maybe I'll be ready by then. I don't know. But there'll be a day that I'll be by myself. >> My prediction is you'll be >> shockingly comfortable very quickly. I think you're Yeah. that the unknown of it and the thought of being in that big house by yourself is quite scary. But I think I think very quickly I because even I have that moving from our old house to this house, you know, it's just like a new thing and I the threats are all the same by the way. It doesn't matter if you you have you have two doors in your current apartment. People get killed just as much as in apartments as they do houses, you know.

5:15 >> Well, yes and no. I They probably don't because they I bet robbery is much higher in a house than in an apartment because the items >> But robbers don't kill people. >> Well, if they're in there. >> No, robbers aren't killers. Robbers come to rob stuff. They hope and not interact with >> They hope to, but sometimes when they do, >> so if you don't go confront them and try to stop them, they're not there to kill anyone. Those are killer. People who are in the market to murder someone are much different than people who want to go steal [ __ ] >> Yeah, I understand you think that's helpful to say. I but but it's not I I I don't want to be robbed. Yeah. And I don't want to be robbed when I'm in my house. Yeah.

5:56 >> Or when I'm not. >> It's very scary the thought of being robbed. But if you read a statistic >> that robberies never end in murder unless the homeowner confronts the asalent. If you read that statistic, would it comfort you at all or no? >> But can but like can if they come in my room and I'm in my room >> Yeah. I didn't go to them. I I don't know. >> It's in the trying to stop them where they think they might get arrested where you have problems.

6:21 >> Yeah. Um Yeah, >> but they're not like I want to go murder someone. They're like, I want [ __ ] so I have money so I can get the thing I'm trying to get, >> right? >> Murder is not going to help them in that at all. >> I agree. I think there's this sense of like and in my apartment if I scream, people can hear me. They're like above me and next door and they'll be able to hear my screams. >> Yeah. But you also have an alarm at your house which you don't have here.

6:45 >> Exactly. That's right. And a lot of security. Yes. I I am definitely more protected. >> Yeah. >> In the house, but it's just new. And um I do remember when I first moved into my apartment that first night I I slept at Callie's. >> You did? You left your apartment? >> Yeah. I couldn't do it. >> So it'll But it'll be great. And it's um and it's a big big old change on the horizon.

7:17 >> Yeah, I'm excited for you. >> Thank you. Me, too. >> Stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare. >> Dr. Mike's coming over tonight. >> Oh, that's fun. Yeah, he's in town, so he's going to join us for a family dinner. And then um Frankenstein, which I haven't seen. >> I haven't seen it either. >> And I've gotten my children willing to watch what is on the surface a scary movie because Jacob Lord's in it.

7:51 >> Oh, God bless his handsomeness. >> I know. >> It'll buy you a lot. >> It will. I think they're willing to get through anything. I also heard it's not Have you watched it? >> No, I No, I want to. >> I've heard it's not as scary as you might think. >> Yeah, I want to see it. I also didn't know that was a GMO Toro movie and I see all of his movies and he's a genius. So then all of a sudden I was like why haven't I seen this movie?

8:12 >> Yeah. Um I saw a movie that I want to shout out Eternity. It is Elizabeth Olsen and Miles Teller and Callum Turner and it's a romcomish. Uh, and it's so good and so sweet and heartwarming and I just loved it. >> Oh, good. >> I really recommend if you want like a feelood. >> Where did you stream it? >> I did rent it. >> I rented it. Yeah. >> I think soon it will be out to stream. >> Okay.

8:47 >> It was just out in theaters like in November or something. But I highly recommend it if you want something that makes you feel good >> and optimistic. cry, but in a happy way and a sad way and but also a happy way. Um, I recommend that. >> I have a recommendation, too. And it's kind of a funny circuitous route to this recommendation, which is I had >> dinner with Malcolm >> who was in town, which is great. And I had remembered that he is he kept going to Alabama to do a story on a murder >> the last time I had seen him in New York. And I said, "Hey, how's that story coming?" And he said, He said, "Oh my god, it's so good. It turned out so good. It's out." >> Oh.

9:31 >> And I go, "It's out." And I said, "Oh my god, this is my problem with your show." Because you're not weekly. >> I don't ever know when a new season comes out of Revisionist History. >> You got to subscribe. >> I do subscribe. >> Oh, then it should pop up on your Spotify. >> It doesn't. And maybe I'm not using it correctly, but suffice to say, I I was unaware of it. So, I knew I had to drive to Long Beach. I'm like, "Oh, perfect.

9:56 I'll start Malcolm's murder murder show. >> So I go and I see like the most recent revisionist history and I start it and the first episode is about um genius and the two different kinds of genius which is fascinating. There's like there's there's distinctly two types and one is the the archetype's Picasso which is like he explodes on the scene at 20 years old and he's doing something no one else is doing and he's just so fast and he can rip these things out and it's so impressive.

10:28 >> And then there's Seaison who's also the master of all masters and his paintings the ones you've seen have been redone sometimes like eight nine times and they've taken years. >> Okay. And then he uses this parallel to talk about Leonard Cohen and his music and like Hallelujah. He wrote that song for 10 years and he made like four or five failed versions of it before it becomes the one that we know. But even more interestingly, we really know the Jeff Buckley version, right? So it's like it's then Jeff Buckley's interpretation of this thing that is now really everyone that's doing it now is doing >> his >> Yeah. So it's it's like this complicated route iteration to perfection and I'm fascinated. It's great. I love listening to it. It's a lot about Elvis Costello.

11:21 It's very cute because you hear Malcolm was such a um a music nerd as a kid was going to these concert. Yeah. Yeah. It's very cute. And I'm going, when will he seamlessly integrate a murder >> plotline into this? And then the next episode starts and it is about sad songs. And then on the Rolling Stones top 50 songs of all time, he goes through them. It's saying there's almost no sad songs on this list. >> Weird. >> And then he goes into this whole thing about country, how country has really um fearlessly explores sadness like no other genre. and and the hits in country are often like their alcoholism and their death and their divorce and their all these topics.

12:05 The thing that was so fascinating about it is like he then references this other guy who put the500 songs into this algorithm he created that would what it would do is it would basically it could listen to the song and then tell you what percentage of the lyrics are unique and which percentage are repeated. >> Okay, >> does that make sense? Like through chorus or whatever they're repeating stanzas whatever. >> Yeah. And so it turns out like that rock is like I want to say it was like 60% is new and then 40% of all the lyrics are repeated.

12:33 >> Okay. >> And then in country oh and the other point he had made before he makes this point is that >> the heartbreak he compares Wild Horses as a sad song by the Rolling Stones to this country song. And and he says the reason this country song is so much more heartbreaking is is the specificity of it. It's like emotion coupled with specificity really results in this emotion. And country music has far less repetition. Then he goes through this fascinating thing where he reads a list of like the top hundred country songs ever written.

13:05 >> Hundred lucky. >> He doesn't go through the whole He knows better. >> Oh, him and I need to have a podcast where he just reads hundred lists. >> But he didn't but he didn't go through the whole list. >> Okay. What he immediately shows you is that almost every single one of the songs was written by someone from either Arkansas, Texas, or Kentucky, maybe Tennessee. >> In the country list, >> in the country, top 100 of all time.

13:29 >> They're all written by Protestants. They're white Protestant Southerners from almost three or four states. The entire list. >> If you look at the list of all the top rock songs, it's people from everywhere in the world, right? And he said, "So rock as a genre is way more diverse, which is why rock iterates way faster. Rock changes a lot more than country has changed, right? Because of all these diversity of viewpoints, he said, but the price it pays is rock can't be specific because it's not speaking a language everyone listening already speaks, >> which is so interesting. So the country people, >> they don't have to bury it in metaphor or repeat it. They give you the specifics because they assume everyone listening already speaks the language and knows all of it. And he said the

14:18 only other genre that does that is hip-hop. >> I was about to say rap does it. >> Yes. And he said again it's written by he reads that list. The top list of those is like Brooklyn, Brooklyn, South Central, Bronx, South Central, Brooklyn, Brooklyn. Right. It's all from >> it's very concentrated and everyone already speaks the language. They're not going to dumb it down for anybody. >> Yeah, that's interesting. And I have always been saying those two genres to me are identical genres. It's like the white version and the black version. And my explanation was like it talks about socioeconomic struggle. That was why I thought they were so similar which I still maintain as part of it.

14:54 >> But to hear this other explanation which is so fascinating is no, it's the specificity that it's only being written by these handful of people for other people in that community is really cool. >> That's very cool. Yeah. I mean, I definitely think we've I've said this a lot, like the more specific you get, the more universal you get. >> Mhm. Yeah. >> Which is counterintuitive, but it's true. >> Yeah.

15:18 >> So, that applies here. >> All to say, I'm like, wow. Oh, yeah. Where is the mur? Now I'm now this whole education on country music and all these singer songwriters. I'm like, how the [ __ ] is he going to get a murder in Alabama in this mix? Think, oh, country. Maybe. >> Okay. >> So, then somehow my phone [ __ ] up and it sends me now back to the main page. Like it doesn't autoload the next one, whatever it is. And now I realize when I opened up revisionist history the first time, that was what was the most recent.

15:50 But now when I'm back on the page, I'm seeing the [ __ ] that he's that is not his stuff that's in his normal feed. And then I see >> murder in Alabama. I mean, that is the name of the series. Then I started Murder in Alabama because again I was driving around so much looking at uh Palisades in Alabama. >> Oh, that's funny. Okay, that makes sense because I was like, "Wow, he's really taking his time." >> And that's that's hard to do in a podcast.

16:14 >> And then the other thing that was tripping me up and I I'm not saying anything. I said this directly to him. I sent him a voice memo >> which was the music one was really good. But I was also like, "Wow, he thinks this is the best thing he's ever done. It's really good, but it doesn't feel head and shoulders above anything else I've listened to of his." >> So I wonder and then I get more fascinated with why what about what did he get out of his heart and his mind in this one that is he feels so proud of, >> but I wasn't even on the right [ __ ] Wow. Okay.

16:47 >> I could make a little up on my pedestal point I've been thinking a lot about lately. >> Okay, let's hear it. I think no one likes paying taxes. >> You think? >> Yeah. So, I think that it's safe to say no one likes paying taxes. And I think the assumption, and I can relate to this, is like, well, hold on, I went out and made this money. Why do I have to give half of it to you? >> And then you start thinking about where's that money going and this and that. But I think what you don't think about is you were able to make that money because this is a place that enforces the laws that has highways that you can transport goods on.

17:28 >> Yep. >> That you know all of the stuff >> I think we all it's it's the same condition we all suffer from where we think we got ourselves to where we're at and we don't acknowledge everyone else who got us here. It's like you can't make money unless you have this really robust system in place that allows you to do it in the first place. >> Also, if >> that's what you're paying for is the as a place where one can be prosperous.

17:50 >> Yeah. And if you have a good or a service, the people around you need to have money to be able to buy your service or your product. So, it benefits you >> for everyone to have stuff and have have money and have some abundance so that you can keep your thing up. Like, it's all connected. >> Even the service or the product, right? You have a product and the reason you can profit on it is because if someone tries to make the same product and sell it under the same name as yours, you can take them to court. There's a system in place that will allow you to profit from the thing that you created.

18:26 >> Right. Right. >> You're you're safeguarded. Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, when we had Walter Isacson on, we talked so much about this and I thought it was great where he talks about the commons and and the way that this country was built is is is because of the common goods. >> Yeah. >> And that's what taxes go to. And we wouldn't have a country like this if we didn't have that. >> Yeah. Like people like to make a big deal out of the fact that Elon did successfully move Tesla to Texas, >> right? But it's a little unfair because it's like he couldn't have made Tesla there.

19:01 >> Exactly. >> But now that it is what it is, he can take it there and just pay way less taxes. >> But it's quite unfair because it's like you could you should kind of give back to the system that allowed you to make the thing in the first place. It's like the second you can be independent from it to some degree >> where you were able to innovate it. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. It is. >> That's a good I like that. That's a good soap box. I read I I read a quote. I posted it because I thought it was nice.

19:28 That's very in keeping with what you're saying. That said, I also posted about Veronica Mars. It's on Netflix. People should go watch Veronica Mars on Netflix. >> Oh, it just got there. >> Yes. Very exciting. One of my favorite shows of all time. Okay. So, thinking today about the park ranger in Mir Woods on Thanksgiving Day 2025, who told us that red woods distribute water to other trees and plants that surround them because they know that if they hug all the water from themselves and let everything else go dry, they're at greater risk of burning in a wildfire. I don't think that story was just about trees.

20:00 >> So, same concept. >> Yeah, that's nice. >> Same concept. >> I like that. >> Um, >> let's do some facts. >> Ellen facts. Ellen Fox. Um, >> sounds like it could be a name. Ellen Fox. >> It could >> like a news reporter. Some of these reporters, you know, they like to give themselves a name that seems really on brand with what they do. >> Oh, it's true.

20:23 >> Dallas Reigns, you know, meteorologists seem to do this more, but >> yeah, I agree. >> You could be Ellen F. You could change your name to Monica Fax. Moths. >> She had an issue with moths >> and they are the bane of my existence. Yes, exactly. Now, it says to get rid of closet ms, deep clean the closet by vacuuming and wiping surfaces. Treat infested clothes by washing or freezing them to kill eggs and larvae. I hate the word eggs and larvae. And use natural deterrents like cedar and lavender. My my closet has so much cedar all over it.

21:02 >> You have those little cedar sticks that hang on the hook. >> Yeah. And like balls. >> I noticed those were in my closet in Nashville. I get taken care of, but I don't even know sometimes. Sometimes it flies over my head. But I did notice. Oh, someone had the foresight and kindness to put one of those in my closet. >> You need it along with pheromone traps to break the breeding cycle. I hate the word breeding cycle. And prevent reinfestation. I hate moths.

21:25 >> Yeah. >> Okay. Now, um, >> you might need to publish a list in descending order of fear. >> Your most hated animals down to moss. I do I of course want to know our moss above or below dogs, >> right? >> Snakes. >> Oh, >> there's so many of these animals that you hate. Mice >> where we need a comprehensive >> are we going hate or scared of? Cuz those are actually different.

21:52 >> But break that down for me. >> So, I don't I'm not I'm not scared. A moth. >> Of a moth. Exactly. But I hate them. >> Isn't it crazy when you kill them? Have you ever killed moths with your hand? >> Um I've tried. >> Or with a [ __ ] object. >> Yeah. >> They just turn to powder. They're they're like made of powder. >> Well, okay. So there's moths. And then there's these tiny guys that kind of look like moss, but they actually come out of your rice.

22:16 >> Oh. >> And those are dis they're so easy to kill that it's actually like it's so disgusting. And then they do they just like they're just like nothing. >> They turn into a little pile of uh cotton dust. >> It's it's like they >> clear that they've been eating cotton. >> What the seahorse is it's like that dust made into a seahorse >> returns back to a powder.

22:38 >> Ew. E. >> They're kind of pretty. >> No. >> The pantry moth. >> A pantry. >> Oh yeah. Those are the ones that get in the rice. Ew. I don't want to look at that anymore. >> It's stuck on the TV. I don't know. on the TV. >> Okay, so for venture capitalists, what percentage of companies do VCs count on succeeding? VCs count on a few big home run successes to cover many failures, which estimates suggesting up to 75% of VC backed startups fail. While only a tiny fraction around 9% generate all the industry's profits, most VCs expect only one in 10 funded companies to be truly successful. Okay. Is the actor's way is it courses? Yes. 10 lessons holistic online acting course. Okay. Arowan.

23:27 I wrote down Arowan. I don't know why I wrote that down, but um Oh, cuz his name was Erwan or something. >> And we thought it was Arowan. And I just wonder if people even know that Arowan is nowhere spelled backwards. >> I did not know that. That's intentional. Do you like that? >> This is very stupid. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. I don't know where to I'm just going to keep my opinion to myself if you are super gungho about that. No, it feels so pretentious. But I do like arowan. I have to be honest about that. And I know it's like absolutely ridiculous. It's ridiculous.

24:01 Like it's so expensive, >> but I like it in there. >> Yeah, people do. People like travel here to go. >> And I like their pre-made. They're like pre-made food is good. >> Uhhuh. Well, you get what you pay for >> and you and Yeah. >> And you don't you don't get upset. >> You get what you pay for and you don't get upset. >> That's my adage. I have that tattooed on my small on my back.

24:22 >> Oh, I really liked this what she said. A definition of consent. I really liked this. If you can't freely say no, then you can't freely say yes. >> I really liked that a lot. >> I checked to see if Kristen had a juicer. She did not. >> Okay, >> so that's a feather in her cap. >> Now I know what to get her for her birthday come July. >> Exactly. Um, that's all for the facts. >> All right. Love you.

24:48 >> Love you.

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Dax Shepard (Host), Ellen Huet (Guest).

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The discussion centers on the theme of change anxiety in the context of urban transformation, specifically reflecting on the significant alterations to coastal areas like Malibu due to development and climate-related challenges. The conversation highlights personal observations of altered landscapes, the impact of construction, and the psychological effects of witnessing change in familiar…

What is mentioned in this Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard episode?

9 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Revisionist History, Veronica Mars, Frankenstein, Elon Musk, Walter Isacson, Arowan. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

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The episode runs 25 min; the transcript is about 4,809 words in 48 timestamped sections.

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