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EP4 - Were You Her Therapist
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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "EP4 - Were You Her Therapist", an episode of BETH'S DEAD published November 13, 2025 (30 min, about 5,185 words). It mentions 24 people, works and ideas, including Natasha, Anders, IP address, Monica Padman, Andy Rosen.
What is discussed, and when
- – 5:00: Anders, Andy Rosen, Bethstead, Elizabeth Lame
- – 10:00: IP address, Natasha, Anders, Duck Brigade
- – 15:00: Consistency in Podcasting, Natasha, Patreon
- – 20:00: Anders, Catfishing, IP address, Natasha
- – 30:00: Natasha, Anders, Andy Rosen, Armchair Expert
Notable quotes from "EP4 - Were You Her Therapist"
Okay, so last week we left off hearing the email you got from Anders and then also Beth's brother Jason letting you know that Beth had passed away, right? Okay. So, that's really heavy.
about Anders · atGo to when you got the email. At the time I got the email, I had been working on a pilot with Tammy Sager, who is, I think, the world's greatest comedy writer.
about Tammy Sager · atWas the first thing. And then Andy and our web people were We're going to look up her IP address. We had every comment on our website came with an IP address as they do. And…
about IP address · atThat same IP address also brought up comments from Natasha, from Anders, from Frank, and from a few other characters. it was a true like horror film moment.
about Natasha · atAnd then we have evidence that you and I, Andy, had forwarded stuff to our web designer, Andrea, at Duck Brigade. And I think once we started that, you and I both knew what we…
about Duck Brigade · atDuring this time? We did because this is one thing I will say as you know I mean consistency in podcasting is so important. It is and actually I feel like the first time we had coffee Yeah.
about Consistency in Podcasting · atPodcasting. It made us not trust the questions. And Monica, you even know cuz you're on our Patreon. Yes.
about Patreon · atObvious this is crazy but no one was thinking like that at the time catfishing I think like that documentary had come out within a year or two before this I don't quote me on that but it was a relatively new thing and it was.
about Catfishing · at
Who and what is mentioned in this episode?
People
- Natasha — Person · 8 mentions · first at
- Anders — Person · 7 mentions · first at
- Monica Padman — Person · 2 mentions · first at
Welcome back to Bethstead. This is episode 4. I'm Monica Padman and I'm here with Elizabeth Lame and Andy Rosen.
- Andy Rosen — Person · 2 mentions · first at
Welcome back to Bethstead. This is episode 4. I'm Monica Padman and I'm here with Elizabeth Lame and Andy Rosen.
- Elizabeth Lame — Person · 2 mentions · first at
Welcome back to Bethstead. This is episode 4. I'm Monica Padman and I'm here with Elizabeth Lame and Andy Rosen.
- Tammy Sager — Person · 1 mention · first at
- Rob Hollis — Person · 1 mention · first at
Is produced by Monica Padman, Elizabeth Lame, and Andy Rosen. Additional engineering by Rob Hollis. Music by Andy Rosen.
- Bishop (Father Mike's bishop; unnamed) — Person · 1 mention
Books & papers
- Totally Lame — Book · 1 mention · first at
Don't get it twisted. Dear friend, and she and I had sold this pilot. Actually, it was called Totally Lame. It was based on Totally Married, our podcast. And we were taking a…
- Totally Married — Book · 1 mention · first at
She and I had sold this pilot. Actually, it was called Totally Lame. It was based on Totally Married, our podcast. And we were taking a break. And I went and checked my emails…
Companies & orgs
- Duck Brigade — Company · 1 mention · first at
- Armchair Expert — Company · 1 mention · first at
Dead where all 10 episodes are available ad free right now. Best is presented by armchair experts Monica Padman and nobody's listening, right? It is produced by Monica Padman…
Products & tech
- PayPal — Product · 2 mentions · first at
My sister's email. The first thing I did after Tammy said, This is weird, is I looked up Beth's PayPal account address and saw that it didn't match what I thought it would be.…
- Bethstead — Product · 1 mention · first at
Welcome back to Bethstead. This is episode 4. I'm Monica Padman and I'm here with Elizabeth Lame and Andy Rosen.
- 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline — Product · 1 mention
Concepts & topics
- IP address — Concept · 6 mentions · first at
- Consistency in Podcasting — Concept · 1 mention · first at
- Catfishing — Concept · 1 mention · first at
- Neurology — Concept · 1 mention · first at
Heard already. Andrew called her brother Jason this morning because he spent some time studying neurology at university.
Places & events
- East Coast — Place · 1 mention · first at
He's older in his 60s. Professor East Coast style professor. Mhm.
- Los Angeles — Place · 1 mention
- United States (states) — Place · 1 mention
Sponsors
- Patreon — Sponsor · 2 mentions · first at
- Armchair Expert — Sponsor · 1 mention
Full transcript with timestamps
Today's episode mentions suicide. If you are having suicidal thoughts, please know you are not alone and help is available. In the US, dial 988 where you'll have access to free one-on-one counselors who are there to provide compassionate support.
Welcome back to Bethstead. This is episode 4. I'm Monica Padman and I'm here with Elizabeth Lame and Andy Rosen.
Hello. Okay, so last week we left off hearing the email you got from Anders and then also Beth's brother Jason
letting you know that Beth had passed away, right? Okay. So, that's really heavy.
I got that email and I was I was devastated. I mean, obviously. Yeah. And And Andy, you remember very clearly.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You came I think I was like taking a nap or something and you came in. I mean, freaking out. I was like, "What's what's going on?" And you and show me the email.
Were you confused because you didn't really know? It was confusing in two ways. One, I wasn't fully in the loop on everything happening. And two, if I'm honest, your reaction was really intense, which I didn't know how to interpret either. I was just kind of like quickly trying to figure out what was going on sort of, right?
And it didn't the math didn't quite add up to me. It's obviously super upsetting to hear anybody try to commit suicide.
Yeah. You didn't know the layers. I did not know the layers at all. That's probably the first time you told me like, "Oh, no. I've been talking to her." And I could tell that you felt this responsibility. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I was getting clued in right then and it was
also was like the last few that I had heard from her seemed like she was doing well and then it I hadn't heard from her in a few days and to get that it just felt like a gut punch.
Yeah. I responded to Anders. You did? Oh, it's sad. You said Anders? What? No, no, no, no, no. I'm beside myself. Is this true? I'm so horrified. Last message I exchanged with Beth was of hope. I don't believe this. Did the brother email you or call? Did you respond to an email to Beth's account? I don't know what to do. This can't be. Would you share with me what the brother's message said? I'm hysterical. I wish I had realized. But at I want to go to when you got the email. At the time I got the email, I had been working on a pilot with Tammy Sager, who is, I think, the world's greatest comedy writer.
Yes. But not your mentor. My mentor. Don't get it twisted. Dear friend, and she and I had sold this pilot. Actually, it was called Totally Lame. It was based on Totally Married, our podcast. And we were taking a break. And I went and checked my emails and I saw that and I freaked out. I went to talk to Andy and I came back and I think I sent that email to Anders and then she got back on with me and she also was a fan of the podcast and had listened from the very beginning
and had heard all of these questions and answers over the last, you know, few months.
And I told her what had happened and her instinct was, "This seems weird." And it was kind of um a paradigm shift for me, like, oh wait, could this be weird? Tammy pointed out that it was a little bit odd for a brother's first instinct to be, I'm going to go get into my sister's email. The first thing I did after Tammy said, "This is weird," is I looked up Beth's PayPal account address and saw that it didn't match what I thought it would be. So, I Google image searched that and it was this like, you know, a family twotory modest house but like suburban.
And I found that odd because I assume I I thought she had lived in an apartment. I thought she had a roommate. I don't know. It just didn't match up. So that was the first thing. And then Andy and our web people were like, "We're going to look up her IP address." We had every comment on our website came with an IP address as they do. And you can look them up and they show where like the thing pinged from what tower. So, you can place someone pretty close to
That's not That's not exactly how it works. Okay, let's hear it. Your IP address. Every connection to the internet has its own IP address. So, it's not like pinging off towers or anything. Okay.
So, it's like this building here, we're on an IP address. Like every modem, I think.
Oh, I see. Um, so basically it's like your stamp of where the communication came from or who's using the internet where they are, if that makes sense.
Yes. So I think it was your idea was to we should look up her IP address. Are the IP addresses on the back end? And our web people were like, "Yes, if you log in this way, you can see everyone's IP address." And so Andy clicked on best IP address.
Yeah. They were like hyperlinks next to the comments. So it was really easy. You click on the IP address next to the person's name and then it brought up all the comments that that person had made from that IP address.
Mhm. And to our total [ __ ] horror and disbelief, that same IP address also brought up comments from Natasha, from Anders, from Frank, and from a few other characters. I mean, it was a true like horror film moment. And I think especially for me who had formed such deep relationships that these were all one person.
And at this moment in time when we're doing this, we're quickly like whoa whoa whoa. What the [ __ ] Beth has another IP address. We're clicking that one, too, and it's revealing other people. So we whittle it down to like three IP addresses. And so we're we're scrambling to figure this out. And while we're doing that, Elizabeth, I mean, is like white. And the thing that stands out to me is you saying to me, "You have no idea how much time I've put into these people."
Like that was the first time she ever kind of revealed to me. Like I that was the first moment I knew how big of a deal this was to her.
Right. Moving forward from there is when I started learning about the like behind the scenes interactions,
everything you've just learned. Yeah. Not only this is so creepy that it's multiple people, but it's these people.
These people you've been talking to for a year, more than a year. Yes. Yeah. Years.
Yeah. this person that we don't know really covered their bases and in a way too that I think we couldn't even process you more so than me I'm sure we're more in shock but also us just being like how many people actually is it right like we we in this moment are figuring out okay what we have seven eight nine people but we're like is it does anyone listen to our podcast
truly are our stats way off and this one person my first thought was is This Natasha,
why was she top of mind? Because, as I said earlier, she did stand out to me as like a super fan who I knew kind of to keep at arms length because she was such a huge fan and seemed so involved. And I felt with her, I didn't feel this with Beth. I felt with Natasha that like if I had given her too much, she would just take and take and take. You know what I mean? like it would have become a non-stop
correspondence and um so my first thought was oh my god is Natasha and also is is Beth okay like I still hadn't even stepped out of the web right like they're all still real to you
yes I quickly jumped to [ __ ] I'm on team. This is [ __ ] up and there's there there's no one that tried to commit a suicide. I'm that voice in the conversation and I think Tammy is that voice too.
Then it was like, who is this person? And that was its own journey to figuring out who the person was.
At what point were you convinced that like Beth didn't try to commit suicide? I think pretty quickly because I think so. We got this email August 6th.
Mhm. And then we have evidence that you and I, Andy, had forwarded stuff to our web designer, Andrea, at Duck Brigade. And I think once we started that, you and I both knew what we knew was one person was playing the role of all these other listeners. We realized so that one PayPal address, we had gotten donations from the same address, different PayPal accounts before.
Okay. Same physical address. Yes. What scared me the most in that moment was just the sheer volume and time and emotional energy I'd spent on that and that someone would put me in this position of feeling partially responsible for the loss of a human life. And my gut instinct was, oh my god, I have talked about my kids on the podcast in a way that now feels reckless. Mhm.
I used to post my kids on Instagram. I wiped them from Instagram. I had I had Andy get a locksmith to change her locks, which like does not make sense. But I was so scrambling.
I didn't know who this person was. I was like, has this person shown up as like a plumber to her home before?
And you know, I was going into like really crazy places. My first instinct was just fear because this person seemed very obsessed with us and me. And the only person that I had interacted with who I thought could be that obsessed with us was Natasha. Right.
That makes sense. But I went radio silent on website and email. Email. And at that point in time, Beth's brother started emailing very aggressively.
Okay. Monday, August 8th. Elizabeth Lane. This is Beth's brother again. I'm going through her email trying to take care of the things I can for her, but I'm trying to respect her privacy as much as possible. I couldn't help but notice though that some of the things you had corresponded about. Are you Beth's counselor or therapist? I'm desperate to figure out what's happened here. It just doesn't make any sense to me or anyone else that I've talked to so far. If she is your patient or if you have any insight, please email me here or call me at You can call 24/7. I am just desperate to know what has happened to my sister.
So, now that the cat's out of the bag and we can be a little bit more upfront about this, like hearing this, I'm like, how could you not piece together that I that it was a podcast that she listened to? Like going through all the emails that we just went through
and like a quick Google search of me would have given him the information, you know? Now I'm starting to see like um that whoever this is is starting to kind of panic a little bit and it's getting a little sloppy.
Sure. We're also um applying all of our attention to this. This takes over our lives.
Yeah. You feel totally unsafe. Like Yeah. It's all we're thinking about. And it's all we're thinking about in a very busy time for both of us. And we have these two little kids, but we're like stressed out, freaked out,
and we're like watching this like a hawk. And did you guys continue to podcast during this time? We did because this is one thing I will say as you know I mean
consistency in podcasting is so important. It is and actually I feel like the first time we had coffee
Yeah. I brought this up to you like I think that just being consistent puts you ahead of the curve in such a big way because people just well now things are different but back
that is still a huge part of it. Yeah. And so having started in 2010 and I mean at this point in time we had three four podcasts going plus our jobs plus two little kids. I actually think I only took one week off after having my kids. I mean and I really prided myself in that. Like we did not step away. And so we kept podcasting, but golly, it was hard and we felt so like exposed and vulnerable. And I'm sure if you go back and listen to those episodes,
that's what I'm curious about. Yeah, I bet there's a big difference. Yeah. And also, you're still taking listener questions.
Yeah. Yet you don't know if any of them are real. Here's what I will say about this person is they did a really good job of crafting these characters.
I know. And so, and also the questions, as you heard me going, this is a good one. It's a thinker. Like, their questions were exciting. Anytime we got a question that seemed remotely interesting,
yeah, we were worried it was this person. Okay. So, you've been answering random qu random same person questions. Who knows how many?
Yeah. And those are just the ones that left comments. I mean, there may have been many more before. I don't know.
Yeah. So, it made Bess pretty paranoid to keep podcasting. It made us not trust the questions. And Monica, you even know cuz you're on our Patreon. Yes.
We sometimes do these live streams and we'll like go back in time and read questions and reive our advice on them.
Yes. And recently, I mean, I was like, we can't even keep doing this now because every question we look at back in time, Andy's like, it's [ __ ]
Yeah. I'm I'm so paranoid. I I think Yeah. My alarm goes off way too easily. It's not calibrated right because of this.
But to answer your question, we we did eventually have to stop. Yeah. Cuz it was just feeling way too weird.
So, like a year later, I think some Yeah. Yeah. And then you guys were gone for a really long time.
Yeah. And then the Lord answered my prayers. You came back. Yeah. You came back for me with nobody's listening right?
Yeah. We really missed podcasting and so we did come back. Yeah. Like moth to a flame,
but a new format for the show. Yes. It feels a lot safer cuz it's just me and Andy talking like no one's listening.
Yeah. And so having duped us in that way was tough. Yeah. feeling really frightened because of someone spent so much time and energy to do this to us.
Yes. But then the emails from Jason and then Natasha and Anders started to become a little bit unhinged. On Tuesday, this is all escalating so fast. I mean, these are this all within like a week.
Mhm. Beth emails. Uh, this is Jason again. Just after 4:00 a.m., my amazing sister Beth passed away. We are all completely devastated. My only hope is that she reunited with our mother. Thank you all for the love and kindness you gave to my sister. And that was to you and Anders because Anderson responds
to the group and says, "I'm so sorry, you guys." So, at this point, you know that this is all the same person.
Yeah. So, they're basically CCing themselves. Exactly. That's wild. When they pulled that move, we were like pathetic. What? What a piece of [ __ ] Yeah. Right. Like we were at that point, we were really angry that in that email especially, right?
Yes. Responding to themselves. We were really upset. What is hard to remember is podcasting was not what it is today.
Yes. at that time cuz you know you're worried that people are thinking how could she not know this this is so obvious this is crazy but no one was thinking like that at the time
catfishing I think like that documentary had come out within a year or two before this I I don't quote me on that but
it was a relatively new thing and it was always one person it was usually like kind of a romantic relationship I'd ever heard of it being multiple people and I just lived in a naive podcast bubble like our fans were so amazing
your fan we my one our one fan exactly exact what if you found out it was me oh my god
what if that was the end of this oh my god do you want to know something crazy so in preparation for this podcast
when I was making these these binders. I was searching the IP addresses in the comments to pull out all of this person's comments to put in a separate document. And one of the IP addresses matched one of Andy's very best friends.
What? And for just a moment, I I emailed Andy and I was like, I'm or I texted him. We don't email. We're married. But I was like, I'm freaking out. Like, and it got in my head into a way. Now, by this point in time, obviously, we know exactly who this person is, and we'll get into all of that, but I was like, "Is this Josh?" You know, and I was so confused.
Oh my. And luckily, our web our web people like set us straight and we're like, "No, that person just was in LA at that time."
And that particular IP address was used from a cell phone. So it was like, oh, this IP address was just like the AT&T IP address on this particular day. And our web people could literally confirm that the person we end up finding it at is was in LA that day, too. So it was like, thank God it wasn't my buddy Josh.
But it it it really threw us for a loop for a second. Now, okay, this is the type of thing that on serial when it was like the cell phone pings and it's it's stuff no one understands. I don't understand it. I don't know how well you guys understand.
I obviously don't know. So, even when you say that, that makes me question, well, what if it's all these people and they had this this situation?
Because the the more telling thing is typically the IP addresses aren't like the cell phone out tower ones. It is like the modems that are in people's houses. And this all led to a person in a few very specific places.
Okay. Okay. Um and yeah, so the anomaly was like when this person was in LA, then LA people popped up, but it we were able to it was very easy to like sleuth it because of the locations.
Okay. You guys are pissed. Yes. You're pissed. Scared. You're scared. Scared. Paranoid.
Okay. The next email from Jason. The subject line is $1,000 question mark. Oh boy, that's right.
This is Beth's brother again. I'm trying to understand my sister's last month since her behavior essentially added up to an unintentional suicide. I'm also trying not to read her correspondence in order to leave her some privacy.
Okay. But okay, you are but I'm in her email. Yeah. I saw, however, that Beth paid you $1,000. That has me concerned. That would have been a huge amount of money for Beth. So, I really can't imagine what she bought from you. Clearly, I don't know you or what you do, but I feel like I need to know what she thought was worth so much during such a miserable time. Even if she purchased something illegal from you, I swear to God, I don't care. I just want to know. Please contact me. Please, all caps, contact me within the next 24 hours.
After that, I have to start making funeral arrangements. You can email me here or call me or text me. I thought I understood my sister's last weeks until I saw this purchase. Please, I need to know what it was.
Yeah. So this person starts like really baiting me to call this number and are you guys like I want to call the number?
No. No. I'm like I don't want anything. I want this person to go away. Yeah. And as these emails become more and more intense, like the more freaked out we get.
Okay. Next email. I'm begging you. Subject line all caps. I don't understand. My sister has died. I don't know what a relationship to you was. Then I see that she gave you $1,000. I tried contacting you every way I can think of. I even started a Twitter account just to contact you. I thought you were just not seeing these messages until you blocked my Twitter account. I don't know what the issue is. Even a simple go to hell would tell me more than you have. For the last time, please contact me. I had just one question for you. My sister died scared and in pain and gave you what would have seemed like a fortune to her. Yet, you're not willing to talk to me once.
It's interesting having distance from this now because in that moment we were so obviously so angry, scared, and paranoid.
Yeah. But now it is it is interesting to think that like oh my god this thing that they' put so much time in for over a year.
They're freaking out that it's over, that they don't get to play with these puppet strings anymore.
Yeah. 100%. And also, I think freaking out as to why it ended, you know, cuz I did go radio silent right when we found out that she had attempted suicide and
Well, I think they know that was a Speaking of big swings, that was a big swing that they took and it backfired.
No, no, but I think they're wondering why it backfired. I don't think that they know at this point how we could have figured out that something was fishy. They're spiraling majorly in in this similar to what's happening with you guys, but
in a much right in this very moment in a much more devastating way for them. Yes. Yes. It's true. I mean, if we're going to
their life's work is being pulled right out from under them. And of course I like you know it feels so horrific and the details of the emails of all of these people and their backstories and her mom has died and
as you pointed out her name is Beth. Her name is Beth. Yeah. I mean [gasps] it feels so violating.
Yes. Extremely violating. yet if I'm going to step in this person's point of view
in some ways I believe and you know this is just I guess what we do on on the show whether it's good or bad but try to lend some compassion what was happening to you
was happening to this person you were slowly getting sucked into a thing that was then far beyond
you had no control over it. And I would bet a similar thing was happening here where it started with like I'm going to write a question in as a as a person,
right? Oh, that's interesting. And that was fun and that gave that person something and then a year and a half later, here we are,
right? I have zero zero zero compassion for this person. But I will say revisiting this stuff with you guys, I have had moments where I'm kind of impressed like just how intricate it all is. There is like an awe that I have that I would have never expected to feel. Um but zero compassion.
Yeah, that's fair. Okay, so later that day again from Beth, "What the hell?" subject line. I've been dying to know why my sister Beth gave you $1,000. It just didn't make any sense to me since she was simultaneously ignoring her own well-being to a fatal degree. My guess was that she had bought something from you. Since I wasn't getting any clarification from you, I made an exception and read the exchanges Beth had with you. I'm sorry, but now I'm upset. My sister donated $1,000 to you. You haven't even acknowledged her death.
Beth evidently thought you were some kind of friend to her. You may be a nice person, but it's clear to me that she was wrong. Ignore what I said earlier. I have no desire to ever speak to you. Natasha also is sending you an email. I think Ander sent you a note about Beth's passing, right? It's so incredibly sad. Did he tell you that they have determined finally the cause of all this? It's you, Elizabeth. No, she doesn't say that. [gasps] It somehow makes the whole thing worse. I can't help but feel that her fiance and his family are responsible for her death. But even though I only spoke to Beth by phone, I've been really shaken by her passing. I'm so sorry for all this. Regards, Natasha.
It's kind of a tame email. Wait, Elizabeth, you responded. [gasps] What? Really?
On Monday, August 8th, while all this is happening, Natasha emails, Elizabeth, I understand that Anders has told you what is happening with Beth. Correct. Very sad. I don't know if you've had any contact with her brother, so I apologize if I'm repeating things that you've heard already. Andrew called her brother Jason this morning because he spent some time studying neurology at university. The outlook for Beth is not as bright as I had hoped, though she can speak a bit. Beth can't seem to process what other people Oh, this is before you were told.
Wow. Okay. Oh, Lord. Okay. This is before you were told she was died. And what did I respond to that?
You responded, "Oh, wow. This has all been so awful." Dot dot dot. Wishing you all the best. I knew at that point.
Yeah, at that point you knew. Then Natasha says, and this is two days later. I think Andrew sent you the note about Beth's passing, right? Got it. Yeah.
Okay. Okay. Yeah. So Natasha's in and out. Andrew is in and out. Uh Natasha again on August 11th. This is once you'd gone silent. Elizabeth, I'm surprised to have not heard from you about this development. This makes me worried for you. Are you all right? You know, I have so many questions that I never want to pose to this person, but like I would love to know the answers to. And one of them is, was that donation made specifically so that this could be played later as a wait what? She donated.
Of course, it's it's adding more ties to you. Yeah. I think sometimes narcissists do this.
Uhhuh. Were they make you indebted to them? Right. Was it all calculated and like did they know the end when they started,
right? Or did it get out of hand? Was it just following where the wind blew and you know I I'm just I'm curious about that.
Yeah, me too. There are so many unanswered questions. Uh [sighs] but also just to be clear, you guys do know who it is, right?
Yeah. Like for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And um figuring out who it is is kind of its own whole journey, which we'll get to. Um
can you say who it is? It's weird. I mean, now it even feels weird just saying revealing who it is because like I'm getting freaked out. Like
I know. I'm like I'm scared of him and he's still out there. But yeah, how about no names? Maybe we can avoid names, but is there anything about this person we can say?
Yes. Okay. So, he's a man, living a full life, has a family, a full-time job. He's older in his 60s. Professor
Professor East Coast style professor. Mhm. Prominent East Coast school. Oh my god.
I know. Um, so yeah, he's actually we were shocked to figure it out, but he's in a position of power and status and is a known figure. If you don't want to wait for more best, you can binge the entire series today at patreon.com/best dead where all 10 episodes are available ad free right now. Best is presented by armchair experts Monica Padman and nobody's listening, right? It is produced by Monica Padman, Elizabeth Lame, and Andy Rosen. Additional engineering by Rob Hollis. Music by Andy Rosen. Heat. Heat.
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What is discussed in "EP4 - Were You Her Therapist"?
In order: 0:00 Anders, Andy Rosen, Bethstead, Elizabeth Lame; 5:00 IP address, Natasha, Anders, Duck Brigade; 10:00 Consistency in Podcasting, Natasha, Patreon; 15:00 Anders, Catfishing, IP address, Natasha; 25:00 Natasha, Anders, Andy Rosen, Armchair Expert.
What is mentioned in this BETH'S DEAD episode?
24 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Natasha, Anders, IP address, Monica Padman, Andy Rosen, Elizabeth Lame. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.
How long is "EP4 - Were You Her Therapist"?
The episode runs 30 min; the transcript is about 5,185 words in 122 timestamped sections.
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