Is Lavonte David Retiring? + Does He Deserve To Be A Hall Of Famer? | Bussin' With The Boys

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1. 6:00 – 9:00: Derrick Brooks, Jim Beam

Notable quotes from "Is Lavonte David Retiring? + Does He Deserve To Be A Hall Of Famer? | Bussin' With The Boys"

• Completely fulfilled in your career. But when last week, we were doing this thing for Jim Beam. We were doing a segment was just kind of giving flowers to a team whose seasons ended and it was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

  about Jim Beam · at 6:21

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Derrick Brooks — Person · 1 mention · first at 6:41
  Is when you talk about tying Derrick Brooks and then Will has a whole sheet.

Companies & orgs

• Jim Beam — Company · 1 mention · first at 6:25

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 Hey, bro. We can sit here and talk NFL. Are you coming back next year? Am I coming back next year?

0:08 You know what? Will, I'm going be honest with you, man. I'm not even thinking about football right now. Honestly,

0:16 uh he Hey, you know what he did? He went He went Oh, I'm talking to ESPN now. Yeah,

0:20 that's what he just did. Be honest. I love the game. It's done so much for me, but at this point, I'm just not thinking about it. I want to rest and recover my family, talk to God. Is that what you were getting?

0:30 That's exactly what you point. But we'll, you know, you'll be the first to know, bro. You know, you know how it is, man. You'll be the first to know what I whenever I decide. But right now, bro, I'm not I'm honest. Like truly, I'm not really thinking about football. I'm not I'm not thinking about retirement. I'm not thinking about playing. Um I took my daughter to school this morning. That felt amazing. So, uh I'm just locked in on that now. I'm just I'm just right now just chilling, you know, getting my mind right. Daddy mode. I'm going to um I'm going to do uh this place called Hotworks. I'm going to do cycling later, you know, kind of like get a good little sweat in, good little workout in. And then uh you know, when that time comes, bro, it'll it'll pop in my mind. I a sign of hit me and I I decide. But I will tell you this, my daughter, she doesn't want me to play anymore. So, we'll see.

1:23 I'll tell you this. So, whenever you do decide, because I am whenever the team told us that you were coming on Zoom, it was like last night around 9:00 p.m. A rage took place internally because I want you on the bus. So, whenever you do figure it out, I would love for you to be back on the bus. We could talk more things buccaneers when that time comes, but

1:43 what is going on through your head? Like, what questions are you asking yourself when deciding if you want to come back again for year 15, bro? Again, Taylor's asking like when you knew you were going to be able to play in the NFL. I remember your senior year when you were going to the NFL and we're everybody, you know, me, you like all the boys, we're just all we're all fired up. I wonder where you're going to get drafted. And we're like, how long you think you want to play? And I just remember you saying like, I'll get to 10 years and then I'll Yeah, I'll get to 10 years and I'll figure it out. And it's one of those things where you just smile and shake your head because you know

2:16 that that is a reality for him. And it's just cool to hear like this dude's talking about 10 years. He's not even a rookie yet. And now you're looking, you could be looking at year 15. You just finished 14 years and just an unbelievable career. You already know your boy

2:31 is going to be your biggest hype man, one of your biggest hype man along with Gerald McCoy and all the boys out there that always put your name at the top of every list. But what is going on through your head when deciding this? Are you asking yourself,

2:44 "What more do I have to prove? Can my body go through this again? Do I want to go through this again?" like give us a look inside of your brain.

2:53 Yeah. The main thing is just you know these seasons alone you know what I'm saying is is is is um am I going to be focused? Am I going to lock in? Am I going to be am I going to have my best foot forward for for the team? You know um for 17 18 weeks of the season, you know what I'm saying? And then uh next is my ability still the same? Am I still going to be able to, you know, cover tight ends? Am I still going to be able to punch and shed? if I'm going to be able to, you know, um, you know, make physical downhill tackles the way I always do. Uh, I just don't want to be a liability when I'm out there. You know what I'm saying? Um, I always say, man, when I when my ability starts to diminish, you know, I don't want to be one of those guys where people like, "Oh, yeah, man. It's time to hang it up, bro." I never wanted to get to that point. So, uh, that that stuff, you know, uh, the situation, you know,

3:44 what's going on in Tampa, you know, you know, you got a lot of coaching changes down there. are they going to put the right people in places and stuff like that? And you know, just as am I going to be able to endure it, you know, physically? Um, you know, you know, just it's been a a tough year for me, you know, uh, physically, you know, body-wise because I I never really, you know, dealt with an injury like has like I did this year. I kind of dealt with something all year and it was like,

4:13 huh? What' you deal with? A knee. A knee. you know, um, you know how those knees get, you know, they call it wear and tear and stuff like that and you know how that can be,

4:21 it could be, you know, very irritating. You know, just got to you got to drain it every week and things like that. So,

4:28 what's the most what's the most CCC's you've had to drain from your knee this season?

4:32 Uh, the most I have is like 50 something, I believe. God, it's a it's a good amount of fluid in your knee to drain before.

4:39 Got to get that quad to fire. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Is there a part of you that that um that that fears not being the linebacker for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that that that thinks about the other side and it's like am I comfortable walking away from this game that I know is a big part of my identity?

5:03 Uh not really. Will to be honest with you no. Um, I think like you said, man, like when you say, one of the questions is, do I have anything left to prove? And only thing I have to prove is just if I'm out there, me being the best on the field. Cuz when I'm out there, obviously my mindset, hey, I'm going to be the best player on this field. And if I don't feel like I'm the best on the field, it's no more point than me going out there, you know? So,

5:27 uh, that's the only thing that's for me like just, you know, I played I played 14 years, bro. Like like you said, I I I had a I had a crazy thought to be able to make it to 10. I didn't even get drafted yet. So, and then for me me to be able to make it to 14, I tied Dar Brooks for the tackle record. Um um I won a Super Bowl. You know, I'm a real respect across the Tampa community. You know, I did a lot lot in the community. I did a I did everything that I said I'd do when I got drafted tackle. So, you know, the only thing for me is just that's left to prove just like prove to myself that I'm still able to play football at a high level.

6:07 Dude, you you clearly and Will and I have had this conversation when we were when I was when we were playing. I would have this conversation with Will, but like you've won, dude. Like, you've done everything you have to do in your career. You've checked every single box that you need to check in order to be completely fulfilled in your career. But when last week, we were doing this thing for Jim Beam. We were doing a segment was just kind of like, you know, giving flowers to a team whose uh seasons ended and it was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

6:32 And I did a little thing and then Will brought up a bunch of your stats and I think you might go down as the most underrated football player of all time.

6:40 Oh, there's no question. Is when you talk about uh tying Derrick Brooks and then Will has a whole sheet. He can he can lay out all the stuff like but when you see your stats next to other players and how close you are and then seeing the accolades they had from an individual standpoint versus your individual standpoint like does that add any more of the chip to the layer of if I'm weighing pros and cons coming back like there's a pro right there is cuz for whatever reason I've done this much and people still haven't given me the respect the rewards I deserve.

7:11 Yeah. The only thing about it is man just the all pros and the pros you know uh one first team all pro two second team all pro one pro bowl you know um obviously I can't control that you know things like that you know hopefully down the line when they really see and they look at the stats and look at you know like you said who I'm lined up against they like oh well this guy you know maybe this dude did get you know cheated out of stuff like that you know what I'm saying I don't want them to feel no sympathy for me or nothing like that but I just want want them to understand like every time I played on Sunday I was a factor on the field and that's the only thing that mattered. You know what I'm saying? So, um, you know, he wasn't we wasn't really good. You know, Tampa wasn't really good at the beginning of my career. So, that probably played a huge factor into as well. Uh, but when you look at side of that, you know, just

7:56 look at the players himself, you know, look at we what he did. You could go back and watch the film or whatever the case may be like people people be like, "Oh, he made all these tackles." But in those tackles, I had 20 tackles for losses. So there was very impactful tackles. They wasn't like down the field tackles and stuff like that. Like every time I played, you know, I made an impact on the game. So, uh, you know, when people go back and look and see those things, I hope they, you know, take a chance and just look at that. And then, um, you know, um, I see like, you know, the, uh, the Pro Bowl voting and all the allp pro bowling and stuff like that. I remember uh, cuz I was a 4-3 linebacker at the beginning of my career. So,

8:34 yeah, was 4-3 outside linebacker at that. So I had to compete with guys like Von Miller, you know, Ryan Carrian, you know, um Terrell Slay pass rush. Yeah, true pass rusher. So

8:46 obviously they not going to vote me as outside linebacker, you know, on on all pro team or pro bowl team because they got those guys. They looking at those guys who getting the the sacks and stuff like that. And I seen the allp pro thing came out the other day, you know, um, you know, they only have like two true linebackers up for all pro and they have like edges. They got like five edge guys. So I'm like, come on, man. That's not really fair to the linebacker position. So that's always say, man, like the linebacker position in itself is kind of like being, you know, you know, tarnished and things like that because of those edge guys. But, you know, it it is what it is. But, you know, I feel like, you know, when people do go back and look and just kind of like truly see and watch, you could watch my film, you could watch the the staff that this uh, you know, look at the stats that I have and just shows

9:35 that, you know, you know, I was I was an impact when I played the game. One of two, one of two players, 1500 tackles, 40 sacks, 10 interceptions. Only other guy is Ray Lewis. And I look at that stat and hearing you break down some old stories and getting to relive some old some old highlights of our career. But a guy who quit, tried quitting after the first day of showing up at Forcott, guy who failed the beep test, guy who got thrown into the fire, a guy all of these things. Could you can you even imagine that that dude is one of two players with 1500 tackles, 40 sacks, and 10 interceptions and shares that with Ray Lewis being an undersized cat and everything else. Dude, it's unbelievable what you have done. And you know, we're always going to we're always going to root for you on this end. But, uh, when you do decide again, cuz we wanted you. I personally, I know Taylor feels the same way. We want you here in

10:31 person. Yep. Cuz you'll sound much better. the the the audio will sound much better and we'll just be in person. We can break down more Buccaneer stuff and then whenever you make your decision, you can let us know what factored into it. But we'd love to have you in Nashville and sitting on the bus

10:45 whenever that day. No problem, bro. You know how it is, man. It's always love, man. I appreciate you guys. Every time I come to Nashville, we always have a good time. So, you know, uh I get I get I get chauffeered by you. So, I'm I'm thankful for that, you know. Uh but uh definitely, bro, we could uh we could set that up whenever that time comes, you know. I'll reach out to you, reach out to you guys and uh let you know.

11:06 Yeah, absolutely. Sounds good. Cuz hey, remember whenever we had did that favor form in Kansas City, I was like, "Hey, Boogie, just letting you know I got you in my pocket. I executed what you needed me to, but I got you in my pocket now."

11:16 And that pocket is going to be whenever you make a decision on your future. And there's so much to break down with the uh the Bucks, Tom Brady.

11:23 There's so many things you can say. He had a 14-year. It's going to be an arguable Hall of Fame career for probably a long time.

11:29 We'll just call this a part one. Yeah, David.

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