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Josh Pate Picks College Football Playoff National Championship W/ Will Compton And Taylor Lewan

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Josh Pate Picks College Football Playoff National Championship W/ Will Compton And Taylor Lewan", an episode of Bussin' With The Boys published January 15, 2026 (1 h 26 min, about 18,872 words). It mentions 10 people, works and ideas, including Josh Pate, Crystal Ball, FanDuel, SEC, Jim Beam.

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Josh Pate, FanDuel, Crystal Ball, College Football Championship
  2. – 20:00: Crystal Ball
  3. – 30:00: Jim Beam, Josh Pate
  4. – 40:00: Catapult
  5. – 50:00: Crystal Ball, FanDuel
  6. – 1:10:00: Crystal Ball
  7. – 1:20:00: Crystal Ball, Markeel Bell
  8. – 1:25:36: Josh Pate

Notable quotes from "Josh Pate Picks College Football Playoff National Championship W/ Will Compton And Taylor Lewan"

  • Anything can happen. This could be a Kenny Mincchi situation with Josh Pate that we're talking about right now. But neither here nor there. The standings we have a tie going into this championship game, going into the.
    about Josh Pate · at
  • It's, been, an, amazing, year.,, let's have a little energy because we got one last little deal from FanDuel from you guys. And as Locker Room is presented by FanDuel…
    about FanDuel · at
  • Crystal, ball., We, have, it, our, way., It's Burger King. We fly to Arizona. We watch that game. We sleep in Arizona. Take our time. Get some breakfast in Arizona. Get out to have some zips in Arizona.
    about Crystal Ball · at
  • This, show, is, brought, to, us, by, Jim, Beam.
    about Jim Beam · at
  • Winners and Indiana. People are saying that they're hacking Catapult. Mark Cuban big investor. Is he the owner?
    about Catapult · at
  • Markeel, Bell., For, the, love, of, God, and we're up in a suite and I'm yo these dudes are massive.
    about Markeel Bell · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Josh Pate — Person · 8 mentions · first at
  • Crystal Ball — Person · 7 mentions · first at
  • Taylor Lewan — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Taylor Lewan is 44 and 44. This game might decide that we're going to have to figure out a tiebreaker of some sort if they have the same pick. Will he C did go undefeated in the semi-finals 40 and.
  • Markeel Bell — Person · 1 mention · first at

Companies & orgs

Concepts & topics

  • SEC — Concept · 4 mentions
  • NIL — Concept · 3 mentions
  • College Football Championship — Concept · 1 mention · first at
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Full transcript with timestamps

Welcome to another episode of the locker room, boys. It's a sad day. It's a bad day. This is our final show of the season. We'll be talking, we're going to recap our futures picks, Indiana, Miami the, national, title, game., We're, going to talk about all that. We're also just going to hang out and talk shop because again, it is a sad day because this is the final episode of this season. But to tell you guys, thank each and every one of you so much for leaving comments throughout the entire year, for following along this show, following this channel, everything in between following our content, fall don't lie tour, bus and fall tour, when we collaborate and mingle and drop content and everything else. And you guys comment underneath it means the world to us. But with every death, there's rebirth. There's some talks and whispers right now what this show could possibly be next year and on this set right here

in other worlds. But we also know that it's the college football landscape. Anything can happen. This could be a Kenny Mincchi situation with Josh Pate that we're talking about right now. But neither here nor there. The standings we have a tie going into this championship game, going into the national title. Josh Pate is 44 and 44. Taylor Lewan is 44 and 44. This game might decide that we're going to have to figure out a tiebreaker of some sort if they have the same pick. Will he C did go undefeated in the semi-finals 40 and 48 respectively. We're happy you're here. Welcome to the show, The Lock Room. Leave comments along the way. Make sure make sure you're subscribed. Let's have a show.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome in to the final locker room college football edition episode. Moment of silence for all of us and how much of a great year it's been.

Thank, you,, college, football., Thank, you, college football, for everything you've given us.

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Can, I, just I, see that's, just, nervous, energy. Yeah., What's, on, your, mind?, What, are, you feeling going into this last episode Josh?

Oh,, a, whole, lot., part, happy,, part, sad, part anger, part bittersweet. But the first thing I'm thinking since we're on the spirit of this is our last show of the season is I really feel bad for people who are finding the show for the first time cuz our numbers have grown every week. So, you know, statistically there's someone who just happened upon this video. They're like, "Wait, I like this show." Hopefully, wait, this thing's been going on all year. I don't get most of the inside jokes. I don't know why I haven't watched this all year. Think about what they missed. They missed They missed the whole Nebraska thing. They missed

They, always, miss, the, Nebraska, thing. They, missed, the, coaching, curt, search carousel. They missed the whole Michigan thing.

They, missed, the, bus, and, bull. They, did, miss, the, bus, and, bull., They missed the fall don't lie tour. They missed uh one of the one of the most like down to the wire pick chases that we've had in recent memory because we've only had one on the show because we've only had one version of the show. So hey, it's going it's going to be a long spring. I would encourage people to go back and watch the previous shows.

That's, great., You, know,, the, biggest thing they missed camaraderie, vibes, friendship.

Yeah., Trench, warfare. Seeing energy, feeling energy, feeling like they're a part of the energy.

Mhm. What, they, missed, is, love. Yeah., Yeah., That, one, feeling, you, get, as a small child when your mom, you're cold, comes to you and wraps a little blanket around you. That's the feeling that this show is willing to give you week in and week out. And then you don't get it again until you do a college football YouTube show decades later

or until somebody tells you they're zooming in from their hotel at 2:30 in the morning.

And, that, right, there, that's, a, good, feeling is, something, they'd, be, missing, out, on. They're like, "What does Willie what does Willie C mean by that?"

Here's, the, good, news., That, is, the, good news. If this is the first time somebody is watching the show, luckily there's enough drama to happen in this show because Josh Pate's name was thrown in an absolute blender on Busting with the Boys most recent episode

with, Josh, Payton, not, on, the, bus. With, Josh, Payton, not, on, the, bus, that, was strategic.

There, was, a, JP, there, to, defend, me,, but it was not me. Yep. Yep., All right., Go, ahead.

I, would, like, to, give, I, I, don't, have, I, I was in Vegas fighting for my life. I would love for both of you to have the floor. I can sit back as a third party if I need to mediate anything. What happened if JP wasn't there? All I'm saying is it could have been catastrophic. Not only for you two, but for us as well. Cuz there was a there was a painting being illustrated by one individual that I thought to myself, "Oh my god." And the words came out of my mouth. Is Josh Pate for the boys?

Yep., And, I, called, you, Judas, on, the internet. Did, you? So I may take it back.

Two, of, us., You, call, this, Judah. Judah., Yeah., Plural, of, Judas., Yeah. You, said, that, publicly.

I, asked, what, the, plural, of, Judas, is, which implied that I was kind of labeling both of you, but it's not closed. I wrote that in pencil, not pen so I am prepared to have it out. Now, I have a, grin, on, my, face., William, has, a grin on his face. Those are the kind of grins you have when you think morally you're in the right.

Both, of, us, think, we're, in, the, right. Okay. I'm, willing, to, I'm, going, to, defer., I'm willing to take the ball second half.

You've, won, the, toss., Yeah., Okay. May, I, add both of us think we're morally in the right and we also understand the other side.

I'm, not, going, to, go, as, far, to, say, I understand your side yet. That, was, the, first, olive, branch. That was the first olive branch that was swatted away from one Josh. Brother hey, you can't go to a timeout this early. We just did the coin toss. You just caught the kick. This is the first play of the game.

We're, wasting, one., We're, throwing this, is, Michigan, Pur. So,, you're, telling, me that for everybody at home listening, we're planning out this trip to hit both semi-final games?

Yep. Crystal, ball., We, have, it, our, way., It's Burger King. We fly to Arizona. We watch that game. We sleep in Arizona. Take our time. Get some breakfast in Arizona. Get out to have some zips in Arizona.

Know, that, we, got, all, the, time, in, the world. Make it out to Atlanta for the Peach Bowl that started at what? 7:30 Eastern.

Officials, officials, timeout., Officials timeout. You, can't, lose, the, toss,, go, on, offense, call a timeout, and then just start running plays.

The, timeout, is, for, me, to, have, a, moment to talk. We're, playing, That's, the, game., You, guys are in the middle of it right now. You're essentially running your first drive.

So, So, you, want, me, to, stop, and No,, no,, no., You're, good., It's, just, your timeout. It's no longer a timeout. We're in We're in it now.

Hey,, I, haven't, flinched, two, or, three false starts on the opening drive already

for, not, understanding, the, rules for, just, not, like, in, the, middle, of, a conversation.

I'm, like,, "Hey,, let's, try, to, explain something to me." I'm like, "So, do I or you want me to keep going?"

We, go,, "Hey,, let's, talk, about, it.", And he goes, "Time out." Starts talking about it thinking, "Wait, no, no, no. We're we are in the lines right now. The game is happening. So, your timeout's gone. We're in it now.

I, don't, make, the, rules., I, don't, know, the rules. I'm, the, officient., I'm, making, them, up, as I go.

Yep., So,, what's, the, next? Your, timeout, is, gone., You, want, to, talk about it? Go ahead. You're talking about crystal ball right now. Carry on.

That's, tough., That's, That's, tough. Also,, you're, backed, up., It's, first, and 20.

So,, Crystal, Ball,, that's, kind, of, how, we would operate the the trip. We're trying to enjoy go to the college football playoff semi-finals. However, something came into play.

Mhm. Josh, Pate, had, to, be, in, Atlanta, to, uh broadcast, Zoom, whatever from the stadium.

Mhm. Mercedes-Benz,, you, had, to, be, in, the, uh the semi-final at in the atmosphere in the environment, calling in to uh get up to do your hits, get up, first take, all of it.

Early, in, the, morning. Early, in, the, morning., No, problem, with that. So, we had to figure out a way to fly. say, "Hey, we got to we got to fly out from Arizona on Thursday night to get their land Friday morning. Going to be a grind. Going to land at 2:30 in the morning, but we're doing it because the boy has a the boy Josh Pate has an obligation. That's why we're doing." So as we're flying and land, go to the game in Arizona, land in Atlanta, and it's 2:30 in the morning, and you drop a bomb of I just got to zoom in from my hotel room. It doesn't have to be on site in Atlanta. fireworks go off. Might hang on a second. So then why did we have to?

But I didn't want to jump to conclusion. I'm like, so when did you know this information? And you say you knew it on the way to Arizona. So optically we could have we could have switched stuff around and STAYED IN ARIZONA AND NOT LEFT THE MIAMI UH OLD MISS GAME EARLY.

Ray, Lewis. I, don't, know, if and, I, would, HAVE, MET, RAY, LEWIS. Your, bladder, kept, you, from, meeting, Ray Lewis. Yeah, that that's very very what so that is where the understanding if you're sitting there in your chair thinking you're morally right but you can't understand this side of the situation of being for the boys. We could have switched some planes up and had some fun at Arizona and took our time to get OUT OF ATLANTA. I can't help you.

First, drive's, over., Let, me, just, step, in for a second officials timeout again. This is what happens where there's not another JP to come and defend you right now. This is This is the exact tone that was taking place on the bus, but you know how before. Go ahead.

I, love, you. I, love, you,, too,, man. You, saw, my, tweet, yesterday., I, said, I'm

This, is, my, time, now. It's, your, time. It's, my, time, now. Okay. Hey,, that's, a, warning.

Hey,, you, got, to, pick, it, up., I, like, it. You're throwing so many different new rules at me right now, buddy. You're just You're not even the game. You had your top 15 plays. You haven't ran one of them yet. I scored on the opening drive. Like that was that was New England Patriots the other week. Three plays and Nebraska is the best three- win team of all time. Okay, go ahead.

All, right. I'm, even, going, to, bolster, your, argument. That's how that's how sure I am that I'm in the moral right here.

Back, up, 6, weeksish. We're doing Get Up in New York. Y we're, on, a, very, tight, timetable, cuz, you got to get back because you got to be somewhere at 1:15 in the afternoon. Do you remember this?

Yes., And, our, plan, is, we're, off, air, at what 10:00 in the morning. We're, out, of, there, by, 10:10., We, already got the escape route. They're holding the freight elevator for us. And then at like 9:55 someone comes over from the first take studio and they ask, "Can they get me for 20 more minutes, which may very well push our landing time back to where you miss your family obligation." And what did you say?

I, was, hesitant. I was I was totally thinking about myself. Yes., Yes,, we, can, do, that.

Yeah., Without, hesitation., Let, the, record show. Without hesitation said yes anything for you. So there is precedent already this year where you guys have been over backwards to help me out because um it was a very very great career opportunity for me and I was appreciative, of, that., Right., All right. So, this would not have even been the first time that you have put me over you. Selfless friendship. It's what it's all about

right? Absolutely. Okay. What would you do if you were in my position and you knew that we're going to try and go to both games? It's dream scenario. Knock out two playoff games. Uh, in an ideal world, in your crystal ball, we're on the field for those games. But I digress. I digress. We're at the games. All right.

And, the, producers, the, producers the, producers, from, uh, Get, Up, and, or First Take, doesn't matter which show. They, say,, "You're, going to, be, in, Atlanta Friday morning." Yeah, I think I think I will be in Atlanta Friday morning. Let's get you from the venue. Let's get you over, there., You're, going to, be, a, couple of blocks away. Let's get you from the venue. But then it goes back and forth throughout the week. Now, you didn't know this cuz this didn't really concern you. So, I was just trying to deal with them. So, it first off, it starts with you are going to be there. then you're not, going, to, be, there., All right?, Then it changes back to you are going to be there, right? So, we've already had some pingpong back and forth, a little production uncertainty. And then I tell JP cuz we do have to plan for these things. Hotel rooms have to be booked.

Flights have to be changed. I tell him "Hey, can we get out of Arizona? Can we get to Atlanta? It's all agreed upon." Then on the flight out there, it's still really, really wobbly. It's really uncertain. And then they say, "Hey looks for now like we're going to zoom you. We're just going to go Zoom. I'm thinking in the back of my mind morally, this may not be done. This may not be the last time they switched this up.

We've, already, got, everything, booked. This is you're a kid. Your goldfish died while you were at Band Camp and your parents flushed him down the toilet and they told you that he went to heaven. What you don't know won't hurt you as a kid. I'm figuring at that point, you've already resigned yourself in your mind that you flew from New York to Nashville. Now you got to Nashville to Phoenix. Now you just know you're going to go to Phoenix to Atlanta. You've already gerted your loins up mentally. You're zoned in. You're prepared for it.

It won't hurt you if I don't tell you. Plus, they may switch it back up on me at the last minute. So, I have told them I'm going to be in Atlanta. I'm going to be in Atlanta. All is well. We do have to leave the game early, which I will admit sucked. And I hate that. And

great, game. Created, for, some, funny, moments, like, when we got on the plane. Eddie.

Yep., Thank, you., And, uh, you, missed, your shot with Ray Lewis and Michael Phelps. And I hate that. Although I take zero responsibility for it, but I hate it. And we fly and we watch Carson Beck win the game. So, it was a very, very uh colorful ride. Then you may take a little 20-minute nap. Not me cuz my seat wouldn't recline, but everyone else is able to take a nap. We eat some sushi. The only meal that we ate period on the trip was eaten together, contrary to popular belief, on, another, show., I'm not, sure what the news that airs about 37 ft from us right now. Yeah.

Can, I, take, an, official, timeout? Absolutely. Okay. Let's, back, up, a, bit, to, last, week, when it's you're going to be at the venue you're not going to be at the venue, you may zoom, you may not zoom. At any point did you communicate this to Will Compton?

I, communicated, it, to, Clump. Uh oh., That because, as, he's, telling, the, story,

that's, a, tackle, for, loss, sack, right there. Wait,, didn't, I, document, that?, Didn't, I just say that? Like I was in pretty constant communication with Clump.

You, said, JP. No,, no,, no,, no., I, was, talking, to, Clump about travel. No, JP just defended my honor after the fact. You

at, any, point, did, you, communicate, to, Will that, hey, it, could, be, from, the, venue., It could not be from the venue.

Josh,, I, love, you. No., When, I, told, him, I, told, him, I, had, to do it from the venue. Yes.

Yes., Yeah., I, booked, it., We, were, going, to land and stay in Arizona and then when I called Josh and let him know what my understanding was he said, "Oh, that's not going to work." Because I was going to do it live from Atlanta.

Yeah., So,, this, point, is, at, the, point where we had originally agreed, let's do it from venue, then maybe we're going to zoom you. No, let's do it from venue. This point right here.

Got, you., This, is, when, I'm, talking, to Yeah. Yes. So,, I, I, never, knew, that, it, wasn't, going to be then till cuz I asked you on the ride there what time you were going to be live from the stadium.

And, now, we, arrive, in, Atlanta., It's, neon blue in the van. It's raining. It's 2:30 in the morning.

I'm, staring, out, the, window. He's, staring., He's, He's, Is, that, Mars?, Is that Venus? Like he's got that look in his eye. He's staring off into the space and he's asleep, but his eyes are wide open. And somebody asked, I think JP said, "We're going to come with you to the stadium in the morning. What time are you going to leave? We may just, we may not even go to sleep. We're going to come over there with you." And I said "We're, just, going to, do, it, from, the hotel room." I tried to say it. I tried to say it under my breath. I tried to say it quiet enough.

And, then, this, happens, right, here., I'm looking out the window of the van. Hold up. Hold up. You don't have to be at the venue.

What, are, we, doing, here? What, are, we, doing, here? We, could, have, been, in, Arizona., We, could have gone to sleep. And at that point you could just you could laugh and you could hope it makes for good content. Do you really want to state your entire case that takes 15 minutes in a van at 2:30 in the morning? No one's going to remember it anyway. So, I just decided to laugh it off. send him an edible arrangement or something later and we'll we'll just call it even. But what hurt me the most uh

oh, and, this, is, out, of, my, control., But what hurt me the most was the next morning. I didn't know how deep it had cut you until I saw the video of you guys eating breakfast basically across the street from me and I'm on the TV clearly in my hotel room and you're standing there watching buddy. Tear.

Yeah., What, else? Partially, from, laughing,, partially, from just empathy rolled down my face.

I'm, watching, him, on, on, first, take,, just seeing the hotel background like this dude just zooming in from his hotel room in Atlanta. Cuz all I'm thinking as I'm hearing the story, I said, "But look brotherhood isn't perfection." But when you communicate with each other and you know that you might be stuck in a situation, hey fellas, I'm just going to get, this, out, of the, way, right, now., I might not have to be at the venue tomorrow, but they've been so wishy-washy. I don't know if I'm going to have to be there or not for in case we think that we might want to stay in Arizona. We still got to go. We still need to go to Atlanta because I have no clue what ESPN's thinking. Right there the bag's passed. you've communicated like there's no there's no there's no feeling you have in your body when you're trying to whisper it under your breath like I'm just zooming in tomorrow

cuz, what, you, felt, in, that, moment, when you're saying that answer you're like okay I'm kind of unleashing a a lion from his cage right now

I, got to, tell, him, the, goldfish, is, dead I, got, to, tell, him, he, didn't, feed, the goldfish it died I was having to do that thing where JP's sitting behind you so I'm having to talk past your ear hoping you're zoomed you're zoomed out

I'm, looking, out, the, window, just, staring at the stars whatever it is wait, a, second

looking, back, on, it. Hold, on,, hold, on,, hold, on,, hold, on, hold, on., I, might, have, said, time, out. Like, time out.

It, took, so, long, for, you, to, stop, looking out the window was what got me.

It's, so, funny, cuz, it's, exactly, how, we told the story. Looking, back, on, it,, would, you, have communicated differently?

I, think, looking, back, with, all, the information I have now when they originally switched it from stadium to Zoom, I would have said "Let's just keep it like that." Cuz that was two days maybe. That was that was before you and I talked about booking. So, we would have been able to book however we wanted to. We would have been able to stay out there. We would have seen Carson Beck do his thing in person. We would have seen Mario rage out on the field

afterwards. We, would, have, seen, the, pass, interference call live. Who, knows?, Maybe, you, meet, Ray, Lewis, in the postgame.

Maybe, we're, hitting, the, dance, together. I, do, belt, off, with, Michael, Irvin., I, do want to say one thing like the viewers of of the bus were led to believe that it ripped your heart out not to be able to spend an extra day in Arizona. Like you have such affection and such love for Arizona. I I don't want to use the words you used when we were on our final approach into land. But first off, Clump finds out it snows in Arizona

cuz, he, called, it, and, I, quote, fake, snow from the air. So he finds that out and then every we saw saw like a crater from an asteroid. We're learning all sorts of things about the topography of Arizona. You're basically running the Arizona Tourism Bureau on the plane. You do everything, but you have the speaker in your mouth. You're looking like a bus tour.

You, had, some, commentary, on, the, state, of Arizona, which led me to believe

that,, by, the, way,, that, wasn't, cool. It, you, led, me, to, believe, it, was, no, big deal to you. Like, hey, first bus out of here. I'm on it. I didn't really think it was a big I thought I was doing you a favor. Arizona. That's how you were treating Arizona.

I'm, trying, to, tell, everybody, how, great of a state Arizona is, where it's located, all the things you can go do. Out of nowhere, Will goes, "Man, Arizona ain't shit."

He, didn't, even, say, Arizona., He, just, said a Yeah. I was doing one of them things where I'm looking out the window. I'm hearing Taylor whole court on how incredible Arizona is. And I'm just like, I have just a grin going on in my brain. Like I'm just going to throw out that, you know, Arizona sucks, bro. What are you talking about?

Sounds, like, a, weekend, of, hurt., Sounds like everybody was kind of out to get each other this weekend. Could have communicated better.

Wild, random, shot, at, me, being, excited about my home state. That's, just, ball, busting,, bro.

Oh, yeah,, you're, right. Yeah,, that's, just, ball. Whenever, the, moment, came, up, and, the, 230 thing came up cuz I'm like assuming cuz again what he hoped happened like I didn't hear what he said. I think JP might have just told me what what Josh said. Isn't that what happened JP? You might have like tapped me. Hey, Josh doesn't have to be at uh

you're, telling like, I, did, hear, it. No,, no,, I, you, hit, the, hang, on,, hang, on. You heard it just

But, I, want, to, say, somebody, might, have like, "Hey, did you hear what Josh said?" But it was something like that. But either way, it's like perfect opportunity for ball busting because I like the feeling he was explaining that he was trying to like have it under his breath. It's like, "Okay

yeah,, we're, doing, it." Yeah., This, is We're, just, going, to, do it, from, the, room.

We're, just, going to, do, it, from, the, hotel room. And then we had to walk home in the rain. We did

pouring, down, rain, after, the, game, which was a splattering. And we get out of there. Now the good news is we got home before midnight.

So, that's, nice. Yeah. The, bad, news, is signi owns Dan Lanning. That's, the, bad, news.

You, guys, had, a, couple, of, moments pregame. I saw it on the vlog. You had a couple of moments.

Yeah., We, were, one, that, was, we, were, going to post on social and landing walked by in the tunnel and he like looked at me and he was like doing this but by the time the caption was put together and Clump showed it to me. Pick six. Yeah, I was like, "Hey, put that away.

Put, that, away. Let's, not, let's, not, put, that, out." So,, just, to, put, a, bow, on, this conversation, Will started this way. Well, you both start with you guys are on opposite sides. You're about to go into a fight, play a football game against each other. Will goes in and says, "I believe that we both believe we're right. However, we can see the other side." And you said, "I'll speak for myself. I don't see it that way right now." How do you feel at the end of this whole entire conversation? I can't imagine that if I would woke up in New York and I had to do a show and then I had to go pick up someone in Nashville and then I had to go to Arizona, as bad as it may suck, and then I had to leave Arizona and then I found out at 2:30 in the morning after you've been up what 24 straight hours

something, like, that. I, can, imagine I may rage out a little bit internally. I wouldn't show it. I'd keep a strong poker face. I can imagine that that would do something to me. Now, would I be mad at me? Would I be mad at ESPN? Who's to say? Does it even matter at this point? No, it really doesn't. So, I guess maybe morally I found some middle ground.

I, love, you., Such, a, relief., Such, a glad, we're, friends, again. It's, beautiful., But, honestly,, I'll, just talk to you guys like Josh Pate really just took no accountability and and told Will, I still feel the same way. your emotions are yours and I'll shake your hand and Will took that and was like "We're all good now." Cuz I know

that's, how, I, saw, that, all, go, down., And Will goes, "I [ __ ] love you." And really, you didn't even say I could see it from Will's side. You're like "I can understand why Will's mad because all the things he had to go through, but really two things. I didn't say his name specifically. I just said someone." Yeah.

And, secondly,, in, the, vlog,, I, thought, the most poignant moment was next morning you guys are in the restaurant eating breakfast and you're just You mean something?

You're, just, talking, to, the, camera, and you're airing out all your grievances and you're saying, "Pay's not even here right now. If he was here right now, he probably just dropped some philosophical quote on me AND I'D AGREE WITH IT.

I've, taken, a, couple, more, days., Still, got that all done. We feel good about that. You guys are a good place."

Yeah., Yeah., I, I, know, I, know, his, heart. And he said even though he was like, "I don't understand the side." And then when he says he he if he'd go back, he'd communicate. Like that's all I needed to hear.

We, got, a, couple, of If, a, question, ever, came, up,, if, someone ever asked, "Is Josh Pate for the boys?"

Is, it, 100%, in, your, head?, No., Yeah,, he is. 100%., Josh, P, would, never, hurt, the, boys.

Without, question,, he's, for, the, boys. That's, beautiful. I, just, need, to, shake, your, hand, again. Very unselfish friend here. And to prove it, I'm going to take you guys on a little adventure this spring. That's all I want to say right now. But that's all I want to say right now. That's all I want to say.

I'm, so, excited, for, that., That's, going, to be so much fun. Stay tuned. Stay tuned to that.

You, said, we, may, not, come, back, from several predictions this year, but what I'm taking you on, we literally may not come back. That's what makes it fun.

And, just, like, when, I, was, in, college, and playing football, if I don't come back it's a good life.

Yeah., It's, how, I, would, have, wanted, to go. Yeah., It's, how, I, would, have, wanted, to go. Let's talk about these future picks.

All right., Do, you, want, to, start, with just going conference by conference Heisman National Championship, or do you want to just look at the records right away?

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Man,, I, don't, know, if, I, want, to, do, any. There's, another, option. You, guys,, you, guys, watch, Land, Man?

Boy,, buddy., Buddy, we, had, a, whole, conversation, on, the, plane about Land Man and how it's not up to snuff this second season.

I, still, watch, it. Okay., Hey,, what's, going, on?, And, did, this last week turn around for you?

Can, I, just, say, there, were, some, text conversations happening deep into the night about this? This dude right here, I don't care if you don't even host it with anyone. It's just you stream of consciousness. If you latch on to a show, let's say it's Land Man, I would listen to a 10-part podcast series of you just airing your thoughts because like if you're vocalizing what I read last night, several paragraphs, not even waiting for a response. He's just "Hey, you mind listening for a second? I got some stuff to say about Land Man." I would listen to that.

I'll, look, into, it. Yeah,, we, did., We, we, Oh,, we'll, Did, we, go back and forth?

I, mean,, I, said Yeah,, I, was, rattling, off, a, lot, of things. He's like, uh

he, he, said, something, that, sparked, the conversation cuz, I, updated, him, on, the, news, that, we learned about yesterday that we can't share on the show but Josh texted me at yesterday 9:23 please advise when you've watched a Layman this week. First text back, I need grandpa to take down the new PT. And then I just started to rattle off you know, my thoughts on the show.

I, didn't, disagree, with, them. Did, this, last, week, do, anything, for, us? Because when we sat there, I'm like four weeks behind. I think I watched the first episode of season 2.

It, did, the, worst, thing, ever., It, made, you think the next episode could do something for you.

Yes. Damn., I'm, might, have, to, jump, on., Y in, a, massive, side, story, that, again, has nothing to do with the main story line but could gain could could garner a certain audience to be excited about what was happening in the side story

kind, of, like, Stranger, Things is, so, what, does Here, we, go. Hold, on., So, what, does, Lambman, have, to, do with our futures picks?

They're, just, thinking, about, I, don't, want this show to I don't want this season to end. I just want to hang with the boys and I know when we get to through the football aspect of it, the football portion, it's over.

It's, going, to, be, over. Yeah., All, right., What, do, you, got with, my, picks?

No,, the, top. I, was, just, curious, if, people, have, been watching Land Man so we could talk about some Land Man. Did you end up You watched the entire episode?

Yeah,, I, I, got, I, got, thoughts, separate from yours that I won't use cuz they really are spoilers. But yeah, I got some thoughts. We'll offline it. That's that's the hard part is we're talk Yeah we'd be talking about it now and it's only been a few days since it's been out.

Can, I, ask, this, this, side, this, side, story that has nothing to do with the main story, but you could see Can you see the side story

colliding, with, the, main, story, line? Somehow, someway,, maybe. Yeah,, I, I, guess., Yeah,, I, guess, somehow someway, but they could have done it differently. They just the the the main

the, main, story, of, the, entire, show, with like lawy or oil cartel, war negotiation, all this stuff. Yeah, it's only in bits and pieces throughout the episode. The rest is filled up with nonsense with like the mom and daughter and the old people's home. I think Grandpa's getting shown quite a bit. I do love his oneliners. He's got some good philosophical takes.

Grandpa's, the, guy, that, sits, there, every night in the wheelchair and looks out.

He's, just, watching, the, sunset., Yeah. Yeah. Now, he's, now, he's, at, the, house., Moved, in him and dad. I love seeing the the the bridging of the gap between dad and son

in, that, story, line., But, a, lot, of, it, it's like say it's a 50-minute show, 40 minutes of it is some of these side stories

that, you, don't, care, for. Yeah., Like, they're, funny., They, might make you laugh, but once they once it's ran its course a few times, say, "Okay what are we doing? Why are we building out an entire plot around this?"

It's, like, someone, showed, up, said,, "We got 10 50inute episodes to fill. We've got about two episodes worth of meat here. What do we do?" And someone in the back said, "Leave it to me."

And, then, they, just, threw, a, bunch, of, fat in there. Stick, with, me, here., wife,, daughter,, old folks home.

My, advice, to, you, was, watch, the, show, on 1.75 speed. Yeah, that, was, my, first, advice, to, you,

which, kind, of, sucks, because, he's, been talking about Will is always big on like a multiple multitude of uh shows, but Land Man came up and I was sitting there with my wife, I think a week or two before the second season came out and I was like, we should put this on. I heard it's great. And we flew through that first season and it was like I I am so excited. We waited till now to watch it because the second season starts like in four to five days from now. And then I watched the first episode. I like to lean back and kind of binge a little bit. And then when I check in with Will three weeks ago, I'm like "Hey, has anything happened in LA?" He's like "Not really." And then we have the conversation on the plane going to Arizona and you guys have your whole takes on

basically, what, we're, talking, about, now is like there's not a lot of ass behind the show.

Yeah. It's, really, just, a, lot, of, fat, you, could cut off. There's, some, ass, in, the, show.

I, bang, you, are, doing, exactly, what, you're accusing of on the show right now.

Wow. That's, true. Wow., But, hey,, that, he's, right,, though. He's right. Like, you can't get

But, this, has, been, one, episode. True., And, we're, really, just, prolonging this finale of

is, Josh, and, Taylor, going, to, pick different teams going into the national championship.

Yeah., It's, just, No, one, wants, to, go, home. No, one, wants, to, go, home., We, enjoy, it that much. It's

the, last, show, of, the, tour., No, one, wants to go home. By, the, way,, great, zinger, over, there, by Jade Demon. That was a

little, uncful. It was more like This, is, the, truth., The, truth., A man,, this, show, just, adds, fluff., Truth doesn't care about feelings.

Futures, pick love, land, man. I, look, at, the, futures, pick, thing, and, for everybody at home that can see this card, there's only one green highlighted.

There's, only, one, green, highlighted thing., Are you, serious? The, whole, sheet.

The, whole, sheet. Taylor, one, and, five., Will, 0, and, six. Josh 0 and six. This, is, for, conference, winners.

Uh conference, winners,, Heisman, winner, national champion. Yeah. Which, I, do, take, pride, in, this, national champion pick because there was that graphic that came out last week.

Yep., with, all, the, sports, media, figures and there was only one individual that still still was alive in the hunt knowing

that, you, had, any I, knew you're, like, damn, it, if, I, go, back, I, need to

Yeah., But, I'm, kind, of, happy, because, then it wouldn't be what we have right now which is two tied two individuals tied going to the national championship.

Yeah., You, know, how, I, looked, at, it?, How that, graphic? I'm, a, year, away., I, was, a, year, off. What they say about Josh in that graphic though?

Homer. Can, you, read, him, off? Uh,, so, the, national, champion, Taylor, had Oregon. He's and he was speaking about the on graphic that went out with all the college football personalities and the teams that they picked. He was the only one that had a team left which was Oregon

in, the, semi-final., Yeah. I, had, Texas, and, you, had, Alabama. Surprise surprise.

Indiana,, Oregon,, Miss, Miami. Yeah. Reasonably, at, the, beginning, of, the season. The only one of those teams anyone that I know of would have picked would have been Oregon. The other three no one would have picked. Right.

Right. Maybe, Indiana, second, because, they, made the playoffs last year. I, never, saw, anyone, pick.

You, think, not, with, Ohio, State, like Michigan hadn't played this season yet.

State, was, top, five, preeason., Remember that. And Indiana has got to go to Penn State.

Don't, forget, what, you, know, now., think and I love that you said that because Penn State people that want to hate him Penn State now like that roster is still a top 10 roster in college football

and, was, perceived, to, be, top, five., I, mean pe haters of Penn State were ranking them number eight preseason.

Yeah. So, so, Indiana, had, to, go, to, Penn, State had to go to Oregon. Plus you got this whole idea in your mind that man now everyone's on to them. They're on everyone's radar. Certainly you got sophomore slump potential. You got complacency pot. Now we know better. But you couldn't have known better at the beginning of the season. So I didn't see a single person pick Indiana to win the national title. I didn't see a single person

on, the, topic, of, Indiana., A, lot, of conspiracy theories in the internet right now.

There, is., You, know, how, the, internet, is. They, go, crazy. Hey,, no, one, knows, better, than, me.

Winners and Indiana. People are saying that they're hacking Catapult. Uh Mark Cuban big investor. Is he the owner?

You, put, the, tinfoil, hat, on. We're, just, putting, a, tin, foil, hat, on right now. Mark Cuban is an owner in Catapult.

Catapult, is, the, technology, that, a, lot, of college football teams use to, watch, film,, break, down, plays,, give coaches notes, track guys and how fast they're running, how much they're putting out from a V2 m, all the things.

And, Mark, Cuban,, who's, an, alumni, of Indiana, he owns that company or is a investor in that company.

Do, you, know, if, there's, any, truth, to this, Josh B? I, personally, don't, know, if, there's, any truth to this. I can tell you there are some people that believe there's truth to it. However, I have told every single one of them. Show me. And no one has shown me anything.

Certainly,, if, you, do, to, the, college football world what Indiana has done it's going to rub some people the wrong way because you're you're you're out of your place. Your place is to serve up a win, to, us., All, of a, sudden,, you're, not doing that anymore. And you look way better than we think you should be able to look. So, instead of crediting you we're going to be suspicious. Hey, I I got no problem with that because I'm a little skeptical about things in life as well. Hey, how are they doing that? How are they getting that good so quick?

They're less talented than this team. How are they running circles around them? Got no problem with that. I'm going to stop well short of just baselessly throwing out claims, but these people haven't stopped short. So I've asked there's like half a dozen people that we're talking about whose opinions, I, at least, somewhat, respect. Some of them are outright in the coaching industry. So, I've said to every one of them, you got any proof of it? It's all speculation. It's all speculation to this point. So, what I'm going to do is until otherwise notified I'm going to laugh in people's face about it until I'm showed evidence.

Right? That's, all, I, can, do. You, hate, to, be, on, the, wrong, side, of that.

One, of, my, favorite, things, to, do, in, early 2026 is to go on X, formerly known as Twitter, and get on these spaces. And with all the transfer portal stuff going on, I have like these, you know, 1enter Michigan Wolverine fan bases that start these spaces and they kind of break down the day of how the transfer portal went and stuff like that. And I've jumped in probably half a dozen of these uh at some point. You can go anonymously or you can just show you can show, hey it's me in here. And I do and every time we get into conversation and I jumped in last night, they're breaking down Snowden and French and these guys who got in the transfer portal. Everyone's real excited

for, French., But, French,, they, are, saying we're a national championship contender. I kind of fall back a little bit like "Boys, we got to see some development and see how good these coaches really are." But the topic comes up about Indiana and all these Michigan guys are just screaming like they have already drawn a line in the sand. These guys are cheaters. And I let them go for about 30 seconds before I hit them with the Will Compton looking out the bus. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Give me a demo. I go "If there's any fan base that should probably fall back about about this, it's probably us.

Let's just let's sit back for a second." They're like, "Well, we didn't do anything on my boys. Hey, I'll hold that flag forever." However three years ago, two year, two and a half years ago, the same conversation was happening with Michigan. And there's a lot more evidence around that than there is around Indiana.

Wow., You, held, up, the, mirror., maybe, we should just kind of fall back. To which they were like, "Fuck that. They're cheaters." And I realized I love the these group of boys.

That's, the, internet,, man. Yeah., I, can't, wait, to, go, to, Ann, Arbor for a game next year.

Hopefully, the, fall, don't, lie, tours, there or we're there. And I have a couple of guys that I can't recognize at all to their faces, but they say, "Hey, you've been in my spaces and we're like boys." Just because of that. Similar to George KD and guys being in his DMs. Yeah. Yeah.

And, then, you, go, to, parties, that, he hosts, KDFest, and they're like, "Oh how do you know George?" We just DM'd him one day and we became boys. That's what I'm hoping happens throughout My Spac's journey.

Wow. I, shake, a, dude's, head., He, And, he's, like I'm like, "So, how do you know Taylor?" He's like, "I'm the the what is it? The Bryce unleashed under it seems like he's the leader of the group. He's always going on the spaces."

Yeah. And, it's, so, funny, to, go, through, their timelines and to watch them be like "Bryce absolutely sucks." And then like 3 hours later it's like this kid's going to be elite and just they just live the everything is just so emotional and I love to be a part of it.

Feels, like, you, really, understand, the, fan base when you do that. I suggest anybody out there especially you JP like there's a couple of

spaces, for, South, Carolina. Just, go, in, there, and, just, enjoy, the conversation.

It, is, fun, man., It's, a, good, time., But this is telling me that we sucked at our futures.

Who, didn't? Yeah., I'm, gonna, get, this, because, I, do believe that your national champion I have a suspicion that is going to be the same as same next year as it is this year.

You, really, think, so?, You, think, I, was, a year too early? No,, I, think, you're, going, to, believe you're a year too early.

To, where, Alabama, Pay, comes, back, out? Yeah. Should, I, let, my, dad, make, my, picks, for me?

You, let, your, dad, make, your, picks., Like who's the new quarterback for uh Alabama?

Keon, Russell., He's, going, to, start. Everybody's telling me how great that kid is. He'll win the Heisman.

Not, even, in, the, Heisman, odds, on, FanDuel right now. Alabama, will, win, the, SEC, champion. Alabama will win the Big 12 championship. Your dad will pick all of them for every

I've, been, seeing, stuff, too, in, the Alabama world about spinning in an IIL.

Good, or, bad? Uh, kind, of, like, they're, not, keeping, up with the times or the elite of the elite. They always hand they've always just handled it conservatively and it's just a it's just a new age. And

um, I, don't know., I'm, sitting, there listening to these guys. I can't remember their names, but they're kind of talking about, you know, the Bama NIL, the portal, the spending that goes on, the positioning that Bama uses that they think is leverage, but it's actually not leverage and hurts them because they're not trying to keep up with all the biggest spenders in the conference

and, trying, to, kind, of, get, over, that, hump that every team's trying to get over. Yeah. of like hating NIL or resisting NIL or feeling like you can do it a certain way and still and still win it all, which I I mean, I guess you can but uh I just didn't expect a team like Alabama to hear a fan base talking like that.

Yeah,, the, SEC, is, so, interesting, to, me because like they've obviously been so dominant forever and now this is the third national championship where there no SEC team cannot win. next year though.

And, Paul, Finebomb, even, goes, on, live, TV and says the Big 10 is the superior conference to the SEC. I'm not sure what happened, but he's basically putting a full indictment in the entire SEC right now. What do you think the issue is?

Several, fold., Number, one,, the, Big, 10's allowed to try too. So you could just have that there's somewhat of a cyclical nature of football. You could have that the NIL has changed the top of the tallest trees or both of those things could be true. I think there's like a layer, it's not the top layer, but that there's a sub layer um that the SEC for so long had an edge talent-wise that they knew they roll out of bed every morning and they have it. Not so much because they're great, but because of what geography was in college football and because the SEC was willing to do stuff under the table that the rest of college football wasn't willing to do.

You're basically paying kids to stay home. like it's not the toughest proposition in the world to convince a kid from Tuscumbia, Alabama to play his football in Tuscaloosa, Alabama or like uh Clarksville to go play in Athens Georgia. So, I think they got a little lazy in the way they hire staffing. It's just a theory I'm working on. I can never prove this, but I think they understood it may behoove us to hire recruiters over coaches in the SEC because that's really our lifeblood. We need to maintain this massive talent edge on the rest of college football.

Therefore, we don't need to win on the margins. we don't need to squeeze the sponge a little harder to get a few more drops out. Like University of Illinois Iowa, they got to do that. We're we're Florida. We're LSU. We don't have to do that. So then the sport didn't change gradually. It changed pretty quickly over the last 5 years. It's changed pretty radically. And I think the SEC got caught with its pants down. And I also think the SEC got caught with buildings full of people that probably are 75% of what may be in those Big 10 buildings from a pure standpoint of football acumen. an ability to coach, an ability to develop because for so long in the SEC, they knew we need to be C plus or B minus in those areas. We'll be fine. Athletes will just win for us.

So,, I, don't, think, there's, any, one, thing like, yeah, you could say NIL changed things, which it did. But you got to get more specific on what it changed. And then from the SEC's viewpoint, okay well, then let's get specific on whether that's permanent. Is this just cyclical? Does this come back around? Because like I grew up watching pro wrestling, huge fan of it like in the late 90s as every kid, my, age, was., All right., So, you, got WWF that's on top for a long time. Then Ted Turner invests in WCW and then it blows up and then WWF takes a back seat for like 82 weeks in a row. They get beat in the Monday night ratings. Then Stone Cold Steve Austin emerges and then they retake the throne. But from that point forward it wasn't cyclical. WCW just died and it never was again. So like how does college football look? Is it just back and forth jockeying for position or did NIL really just do

something that permanently alters the landscape? I would imagine that's not true, but you never know. My crystal ball doesn't see that far in the future.

Love, a, good, wrestling, analogy. Always. I, was, a, big, WCW, fan. You, were, a, Nitro, guy.

I, was., I, was., Bill, Goldberg. Yeah. When, Sting, came, over. Yeah. Hulk, Hogan, came, over., That, was, huge., You see the documentary with Vince McMahon?

Which, one?, the, one, where, it's, it's essentially talking about all the doings like when uh WWF was taking the back seat. Everything that you explained I'm like re I'm remembering that documentary with Vince McMahon.

It's, a, fascinating, period, of, time. Yeah., And, Ted,, what, was, his, name?

Ted, Turner. Ted, Turner., Yeah. Owned, the, Atlanta, Braves., That's, what that's why I knew Ted Turner. He owned the Atlanta Braves when I was

because, he, was, also, a, wrestler, in, WCW like at him owning it, right? Yeah., He, owned, WCW., He, he, owned, Turner, TBS, TNT, all of those things. and he used that ownership of TNT to get into the wrestling business and then give his brand WCW a prime time spot on Monday night to go head-to-head with WWF. Until that point, they were running unopposed on Monday night. You got two-hour block of time on USA Network on Monday night. And, then, all, of a, sudden,, Ted, Turner,, a billionaire, comes into the room and says, "I think I'm going to get in the wrestling business and since I own a network, I'm going to give my brand two hours of prime time TV on Monday night.

No, by the way, we're going to go live whereas WWF was just taped at that point. And then we're going to start giving away their results on our live show to disenfranchise viewers from turning over to the WWF program. It was lethal.

All, out, war. He, was, like,, I'm, going, to, join, the, show. He was became a wrestler.

He, was, an, actual, wrestler. Yeah., Who, owned, a, a, network, company. Yeah.

Took, WCW, and, said,, I'm, going, to, make, you guys the biggest in the show. Hey, this guy named

joined, the, chaos,, joined, the, show., Yeah, this, guy, in, the, needle, in, his, butt, was joining the show cuz he's like NW he was part of NWO. Yeah

I, don't, remember, that. Black, and, white, NWO. Eric, Bishop, not, not, like, a, part, of, it, like, he's, one of the founders, but you know, just in from his position going in and out of the world, but yeah, I remember him as like a he was wrestling.

That's, pro, wrestling., That's, all makebelieve. Ted Turner named himself manager of the Atlanta Braves for a game in the 80s and then Major League Baseball had to step in and say that's not happening. So this guy in a real legit sport, one of the big four sports said, "I own the team. Why can't I be the manager?" And then Major League Baseball had to step in and say, "Cuz you just can't. You got to you got to

retire, be, the, owner." Yeah., So, he, was, one, game, manager, and then he uh he

I, don't, even, know, if, he, won,, but, he, he hung up the whistle. So, Wikipedia has got to be crazy. All that crazy. A managing the MLB, pro wrestler billionaire, own a owner cable, a network company. That's This is a world that you guys I see both of you guys' eyes light up about that I never was invested in ever.

Here's, what, fascinates, me, about, it., All right. I think there's so many parallels to what we do, to the world we're in. Like, I I ingest a ton of podcasting about that topic from that era. And I don't even care if you don't like wrestling. You you can never have watched an episode of pro wrestling in your life. The parallels to the way the modern digital media ecosystem works so readily correlate with how pro wrestling worked in the late 90s. There's so many lessons to be learned. It just so happens that I also liked wrestling growing up. But even if I didn't, I could listen to that.

Can, you, imagine, people, saying, we, filled this show with fluff and don't talk about college football enough?

This, is, just, old, school, podcast. That's, it., That's, all, it, is. All right., Before, we, get, into, the, True Classic game of the week, I want to talk to you about TrueClassic. You can find True Classic at Amazon and Costco, Sam's Club, and Target nationwide, or you can go online at trueclassic.com/busting. I got the pants on right here. They're hiked up pretty high right now, but I'm telling you, they fit great. They got the stretch, the elast elasticity in them. Look good, feel good, play good. Let's get into the true classic game of the week. Um

all right,, let's, talk, about, Indiana, and Miami. Yeah,, this, is, it,, dude., This, is the, true classic game of the week. Every week's got games, but only one fit just right. This is the true classic game of the week. We got the national championship. Hard Rock Stadium in Miami. And Miami is at home, but they are the way team. Yep. Playing Indiana, who's favored by eight and a half. And the total points in that game is 47 a half. Right now, you Josh P, you're 44 and 44. I am 44 and 44. Will Compton is here as well.

And, we, had, a, couple, good, wins, throughout the year. Couple, good, wins, throughout, the, year. You had a good showing. Yeah. Like that. The 40 and 48. What do you call it? Respective.

Respectively. Respectively., Like, that's, a, good, that's that's solid. Don't, patriotize, it,, man.

Now, the, line, has, to, be, drawn, in, the, sand because two weeks ago we sat there at uh talking about the Rose Bowl.

Yep. You, looked, me, in, the, eyes, and, I, actually looked you in the eyes and said, "If you're so confident about Alabama, take a money line." And what' you say?

I, already, did. You, already, did., And, that, blew, up. Yeah., I, died., Now, we, have, another opportunity where Indiana has a win margin of 31 points. They're now being talked about with the, you know, 2019 LSU and some of those Alabama teams as the best teams to ever be assembled while only having seven blue chip players.

Yeah., Which, is, insane., But, the, talk, is happening. Why, do, you, think, it's, insane?

It's, just, I, don't, ever, do, the comparative thing. I never compare Barry Bonds and Babe Ruth for the same reasons. But I think that you're talking about teams, whether it's 2019 LSU or 2020 Alabama, that would skull drag any team that exists right now.

23, Michigan. Yeah,, exactly., They, would, skull, drag 2023 Michigan, too. So, this is only 5 years ago. That might as well be 50 years ago with the way college football has changed.

Okay. And, you, don't, need, to, do, that., You, don't need to go down the It's like the LeBron Michael Jordan debate. I just never needed to do it. I think I got a crazy take that both of them are pretty good. I don't need to denigrate one to like build up the other. I don't need to take 20265 Indiana. A team that if you want to tell me it's the greatest story in college football history, I'm not even pushing back on it and say, "Uh, yeah, but you know, the probably wouldn't beat 2019 LSU.", All right., Probably, wouldn't.

Yeah. Nobody, else, would, either., Probably wouldn't. So,, the, question, is, is, are, you, taking Indiana?

I'm, glad, you, asked. Let, me, pull, my, pants, down., Make, a, little more comfortable. Nobody, including my own parents, has taught me more lessons in life than Curt Signetti and the 2024 25 Indiana Hooers. I think they got to teach me at least one more lesson because as of now unless you talk me off of it in the next 10 minutes, however long this preview goes, my current plan is to pick Miami to win this game

outright. My, current, plan, is, to, pick, Miami. For, the, show,, we'll, do, numbers., Yep. Because it sounds like you're doing Miami. I'm taking Indiana.

Dude,, go, with, what, your, gut, tells, you. My, gut, tells, me. If, you, think, Miami, money, line,, then, god damn it, picked the Miami money line.

He, just, spent, a, week,, half, a, week., How long did you stay in Vegas? I, was, there, the, same, time, you, guys, were doing the playoffs. I got back Sunday.

Oh,, so, like, a, couple, of, days., All right. So,, I, mean,, you're, speaking, math., You're you're breathing in math and numbers like it's oxygen. This is second nature to you. So, I walk in this morning before we start recording and you're kind of trying to feel me out. I'm kind of trying to feel you out. You know we're deadlocked. We got one game left. Someone's going to be able to walk away from this game saying, "I had a winning year. None of those other two dudes did." That's how important this game is.

Which, means, more, than, we, can, even imagine right now. Yeah., It's, everything.

It, is., It's, everything. And, you, heard, cuz, you, would, never, watch my show the night before you do a show with me. Not anymore. Never. You heard that I picked Miami plus eight and a half last night, but you also heard that I picked them to win the game outright. Right.

Uh, I, heard, you're, taking, Miami. Yeah. From, a, from, a, source. And, so, you, with, a, straight, face, like, a true serial killer would, you look at me and you say, "Hey, we got to break our tie. You picking Miami outright?" I said, "Yeah, let's just go moneyline." Like in a one-off scenario where the picks are supposed to be 5050 either way. It's really a true coin flip. I'm just gonna forget the eight and a half points that I could get here and I'm just going to go Miami money line putting the seessaw statistically with me totally up in the air and you totally on the ground and you thought I wasn't even going to be able to see through that. So I refuse the moneyline proposition because I'm terrified of Indiana cuz I know what the Rose Bowl did to me. I'm still not back. I've showed up for the shows but I'm still not really back from the Rose Bowl.

Two, and0, last, week, to, roll, in, the, semis. luck. I was on the floor in the bathroom flipping a coin right before the show went on the air. It was pure luck. By the grace of God, I'm here and we get to pick this game. And I'm going to do it in reverse order. I'm going to give my pick and then give the reasons. So my, pick, is, Miami, plus, eight, and a, half. Do I think they're going to win? Yes, I picked them to win. But my pick on the show is Miami 8 and a half. We're going eight and a half, right?

Yeah,, we're, going, eight, and, a half. Okay., My, pick, is, Miami, 8., line, opened, at 7 and a half.

Let, me, ask, you, a, question., Do, you, think Miami's best game is good enough to win this?

Cuz, you, assume, Indiana's, just, going, to play the way they always play, right?

Yeah. Do, you, think, Miami's, best, game, is, good enough to win? Not, cover, you, win., You, think, they're good enough to win?

I, think, they're, good, enough, to, win. Okay., I, do,, too., So,, I, could, I, got, a bunch of things written on this piece of paper, but really it boils down to do I think they're going to play their best game?

Because, Indiana's, really, good, at knocking you off the tracks and derailing you. And you're like, why aren't we moving? Why can't we play our best game? because they're really good at forcing you off of your fast ball. I This is the first game out of the games Indiana's played in the playoff or including the Big 10 Championship game honestly where I don't just look at it and say on the line of scrimmage that team's got to deal with Miami

or, uh, with, Indiana., Like, yeah, everyone's had to deal with Indiana. They're a they're a handful to deal with line of scrimmage. This is the first game where I actually have looked at Indiana and said, "Yeah, you guys got to deal with them, too." because I really think Miami can do some damage on line of scrimmage. Now, what does that mean for the game? To me, it means it becomes a little bit harder for Indiana to just control the game on the ground. Like they've been really good running the ball. They're so lethal on third down.

They're like first in the country by a mile on third down offense conversion rate because it's always third and two. Cuz it's always third and one. I think Miami not only possesses the ability to stone them against the run a little bit but not necessarily like have to commit a bunch of numbers to do it. Miami kind of is, good, at, doing, what, Indiana, does, which is stopping the run of four.

Yeah. And, so, you, can't, really, stretch, the field where it's hard to do it. You also can't run the ball. So I think Miami can do that. And at that point, it really just comes down to is Fernando Mendoza in the same zone he was against Oregon? Because if he is, Indiana will just win the game because no one's beaten Indiana if he's in the kind of zone he was against Oregon. If you took away the turnovers in the Oregon game, Indiana is still winning that thing-handedly just because of the zone that Fernando Mendoza was in. So question becomes, can you stop the run? I think they can enough. And then can you get after him enough to where I don't think he's going to throw like three picks or anything but he's not in the same kind of zone he was against Oregon. He's just human. And then you pull that offense back down to earth and you can ugly up the game which they're comfortable with. Indiana

is, but you ugly up the game and you give that size differential a chance to manifest itself in the fourth quarter. You're averaging 330 on your O line. They're about 270 275 Dline, which hasn't mattered all year because they're really, really good technicians. But I also think Miami is really good in that compartment. And if I can get this thing into the fourth quarter, it's one possession or tied either way. I trust Miamiy's ability to get over the finish line here. So that's why I took them to win. But that style of game really makes me eager to take the eight and a half.

So that's why I took the eight and a half. Yeah., Both, teams, have, the, ability, to, do ex what they've wanted to do all year to each other. Yep.

Right., They, want, to, run, the, ball effectively. They want to control the line of scrimmage. They want to get into third and manageable situations.

Here's, here's, what, concerns, me., Go ahead. You're, right., I, haven't, seen, Indiana

be, the, victim, of, like, critical, mistakes all year. I've seen Miami be the victim of critical mistakes. So like my entire thinking here is they avoid the critical mistakes. M Indiana's like they're just cruising altitude. Miami is like we could maybe get up to 42,000 ft, but we could fly at 28,000 ft the next week. So, I'm just rolling the dice that they hit 41,000 ft in this game.

Right., That, is, that, is, the, point, of which I look at Indiana and I'm like this is a team that is going to win the national championship because you can run the ball effectively. I love I love the note about the offensive line. They're averaging 330 versus a defense that's averaging 270. However, the gap integrity that the defense has is absolutely incredible. when you get to third down, they uh they I think their their defense is like 31% of allowing offenses to to convert. I believe that's the correct percentage.

They, just, don't, make, mistakes., The, game they made the most mistakes in was the first game against Oregon. They had multiple false start issues. They had clock management issues. But then you get to a two-minute situation when there's 20 28 seconds left on the clock and Fernando Mendoza does what he does best and that's hit the outside the numbers to Serat and Cooper throwing back shoulder throws. once the the corners have turned their shoulders. I've talked to Will about this a million times. Like Fernando Mendoza runs more RPO than any other quarterback in the entire college football landscape. And when you as a defense, if you're trying to stop that and you're trying to stop the run, yet you have Cooper running a quick slant which gives you a read and you have Sirat who's running a a vertical when he has press coverage against him

and, Becker, who's, a, stud. Yeah., So, you, have, these, guys, that, he, has multiple outlets on every single play essentially even though they are a 50/50 we're going to run it or pass it to where we have this get out of jail free card in these areas because Cooper's going to run this three- yard slant and have enough separation to move the ball five yards or I got Sarrod who's got the quarterback's shoulders already turned and I can throw that 15 yards downfield and he's just going to turn to it and stop and it's either going to uh result in a passing a DPI or it's going to result in a contested catch that we've seen Serat convert over and over and over again throughout the entire season.

Question., Question., Go, ahead. Are, my, uh, the, status, on, Miami's, corners?

OJ, Frederick, went, down. Yeah., OJ, Frederick, is, the, one, they're still as of yesterday still iffy on which is a huge deal to monitor. We're we're still what, five days away from the game as we're recording this. So there's no real way to know because I don't think they'll know until the weekend. Uh but it looks like Mezador is good to go. The other guys who were banged up, it looks like they're good to I think OJ Frederique who is a very very important player here when you're talking about what you're talking about I think he's still questionable. I think that's the status

because, the, back, shoulder, chemistry, that Mendoza and Sarat have. Yeah. It's, not, just, Serat, it's, C, I, mean, Cooper as well. They they they can switch. They're interchangeable as far as like throwing that ball and I' I've asked a couple of times like how do you defend that if you're a defensive player and there's really no answer for it. like those guys are playing like Old Miss was competitive and trying to get some of these balls away and SRA 13 the strength he has he has in his hands to come down with it. It is just it's impressive to watch.

They're, winning, games, by, I, think, plus, 31 point differential through, on, average, throughout, the, year. They're blowing out teams. They're

they're, doing, things, that, we, haven't seen in this new landscape of cultural playoff. Like if you look at teams that have had buys in the last two years there's only been one team that's won that's had a buy and it's been Indiana. So like regardless of circumstances history stats you use the the perfect analogy of they're just cruising at this altitude and there's not a whole lot of turbulence. And anytime we have seen turbulence, whether it be early in the Oregon game the first time they played or against Penn State when they had to go back and have a two-minute drive to win the game, they've handled it.

They've handled adversity. And so when I look at these teams and I'm being as cautious as I can not to be like super critical of Miami because I think they're a fantastic team, but it really just comes down to who in this game is all going to be who makes the least amount of mistakes. And I said it last week on ESPN, if Carson Beck has two-minute drill against Miss, what's going to happen? And I say bluntly to the camera, Miss will go to the national championship. That exact situation took place at the game you guys were at and Carson Beck marched his team down the field and now is in the national championship. So I have a lot more respect and Carson Beck has a lot more in his bag than I even expected to him to have. Malachi Tony absolutely incredible opens it up where you have to allocate two guys to him while you have a back like Fletcher who's ripping the rock for like six yards per carry. So

they have a lot of things going for them,, but, at, the, end, of the, day,, dude, it's who makes a mistake, who has more Emmys, who doesn't handle the clock the best, and that edge is severely on Indiana's side. That's why I sit back and I'm like, yeah, eight and a half points is a lot, but I think they were what, 10 points against Alabama. They they've had larger spreads throughout this. I think Oregon was four, and then they uh Yeah. So they they've been they've handled business every single time, every single game throughout this process. When you're like, "Hey, this is a good feelood story." And now we catch ourselves where they're in the national championship. It's they're undeniable at this point to where if you go the other way, unfortunately, you're going have to learn a lesson. And the lesson is

Big, 44, and, 45. Big, Netty. Big, Netty. Big, Netty. I, feel, like, I'm, watching, the, national title take place right now.

The, savviness, in, Moxy, of, Big, Netty., He's he's unfaced. He has every He has everything when it comes. They score touchdowns, they get an interception. His face is stoic. He's focused on the process over and over and over again. And he's got a quarterback that just is all about the team. He is the George KD of quarterbacks in the sense of it's all about the team. Like don't even focus on me. Don't even look at me. It's about the team. Now you got Henry and Black in the back field too that are a one-two punch that always happen to spring a big run and then always fall forward in situations., I, it's, going to, be, a, great matchup., I, think, it's, going to, be, like one of the bloodiest first quarters we ever see and it's who flinches first and Indiana has refused to flinch all year.

I'm, waiting, on, that, moment, that, you, just talked about. Like I'm I'm taking Miami which means I got to go against Indiana even if the game starts out okay. Mhm.

Miami, gets, a, three-0, lead., Indiana touchdown, seven to three. Another field goal for Miami. Man, got in the red zone, couldn't convert, but that's okay. One-point game. Early second quarter back and forth. It's really kind of a struggle. No one has that clear edge. Even if I get that game, you would think, oh, he's comfortable. The game's kind of settling in. Miami's getting their game script. It's Indiana. You're just waiting for that threeinut period where they score and then someone botches something on the ensuing kickoff and they get it and they kick another field goal and it's just a 10-point swing in a minute and a half and then you go three and out and they got the ball at midfield and then they're driving and you're looking and saying "Wait a second, it was just a tie game.

Mhm. They're, up, 10, about, to, go, up, 17, and, 0, oh wait they get the ball to start the second half.

Yeah., And, then, they, double, up, on, you, and now it's 17. terrified dude., Their, operation, on, two-minute, is incredible. I go back to that Oregon Indiana game in Eugene, Oregon. There's 28 seconds on the clock and they're they're on like the 26 27 yardd line and they do what most people do in that situation is they run the ball and it's like, hey, if we get a big chunk, we'll start to press it down the field. They have multiple timeouts and they end up getting 12 to 15 yards. He around the left side and then it's just chunk play after chunk play where guys are running outs. They're catching the ball even two feet and they're having NFL catches and they're just moving the ball 5 10 yards 15 yards to the point where they're on the 37 yard line and they kick the three and it's like that is operation. That is coached. That is everything that these players go in they're like oh 28 seconds

two timeouts that's no problem to us. Let's go score. We've operated that we we've operated over and over and over again. What gives me pause about Miami because, they, have the, ability, to, do, all the same things I just talked about the Indiana, you float back to SMU and Louisville

and, it's, like, Indiana, doesn't, have, those blips in the red. They have never showed us they've only and the words you used about Ohio State is so many teams have given us question marks after big games and then at the time you said Ohio State has only given us answers. Now it's Indiana in that position where all year well yeah Miami lost to this team Notre Dame should they be in Texas like they just beat the number one team Texas& there's a lot of question marks taking place but Indiana has only given you answers every single weekend deep into these playoffs in the national championship.

Here's, what, I, wonder. So, what, changes? Yeah,, here's, what, I, wonder., I, think Miami did show you several blips in the Old Miss game. Like I think there were two 10-point swings they left on the table in the Old Miss game. Now you can look at that one of two ways. You could say, "There are the things that will cost them against Indiana. They were in plain sight and you ignored them."

Or, they, go, on, to, beat, Indiana, and, you look and say, "It turns out their most vulnerable moment was against Old Miss but Miss just didn't cut the head off the snake." And so they didn't have to learn their lesson with a loss. They learned their lesson, but they still won. And they applied it, cleaned everything up, and they played their best game in the biggest moment against Indiana. Obviously, I'm banking on the second scenario for my pick, but I don't know.

And, we, also, haven't, really, talked, about how that last play for Old Miss turn out Chambles in the back left of the end zone was easily a DPI that could have a lot of Yeah, it is. But a lot of place to where we could be talking about a different team playing against Indiana in this national championship.

Could, be, just you'd, also, you'd, also, argue, on, Miami side how you letting Miss get in the position to throw a hail Mary like that. I would have loved to have seen an extra play just for the the actress the actual college football.

Like, at, the, end of, the, day,, Miami deserved to be in that game. I'm I don't want to take anyway anything away from Miami. I just think when it comes to complete mistakefree football that you look at, it's like how do we beat him? It's like hope they [ __ ] up and hope is hope gets you killed.

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I, don't, even, know., I'm, trying, to, break down watch this national title unfold with both of you guys. I personally think my gut tells me Indiana is going to win this game, but eight and a half is too many points. I'm going with Miami plus, eight, and a, half., Um, I, agree, with you guys laid out so many different angles perfectly. When I I was leaving both of these games, my initial reaction is Indiana's going to kill this team. But then when you look at when you go back and actually dive into the game of Miami, dropped four picks, those 10-point swings that we were talking about on the plane. And also Carson Beck has these moments to where fortunately they were incompletions, but he has a the ball's always there to be picked off. Like if you're Old Miss that they miss it nears the defense and plays at that level like Indiana does to where again we're in the conversation of Indiana they never really have a false

step. They never make a whole lot of mistakes like Indiana will make you pay for those kind of throws but it's more of the rolling the dice hoping we get an incredible football game and Miami is going to play their best football because if they do like they have again they match up well with Indiana. The beef that they have up front on both sides of the ball matches up really well with Indiana. their ability for Fletcher to run the football. Carson Beck, he's been playing much better to where I'm trying not to where I've always allowed myself to get caught in the SMU and Louisville. Like, I've been a hater of the ACC all year long. Now, they have not only did they handle one of the best defenses in the SEC in Texas A&M and handle the best defense in college football at the time with Ohio State which Indiana beat them what 13-10 and Miami just out physical Ohio State in the fourth quarter and took it away.

snatch the soul from Ohio State was closer than the scoreboard and, then, showed, that, they, okay, are, they going to be able to keep up with the high-powered offense of Old Miss like how's the defense going to look and I was getting so pissed off when they kept dropping interceptions cuz one of them is a pick six another one's arguably a pick six um to where if they capitalize on those those mistakes like this game is going to be incredible uh but Indiana when I fantasize about their story I feel like this crew right here let's say 20 years from now you look back and realize This could be the only 16-0 team that we see in college football because of all the parody that's coming into the sport to where we look back 20 years from now and like, yo, we got to witness that game like in person, go to their semi-final game and just see that the storylines unfold throughout the year knowing that Indiana was just a shitty

football team throughout the history of college football right? So,, I, fantasize, about, that., I, fantasize about Miami, the the the confidence, the swagger, the attitude that this team always had in the college football landscape as we were growing up. And then you're trying to tell this generation about Miami. And since Crystal Ball has gotten there, you've seen these windows of opportunity whether it's situational football that gets them beat, mental lapses, um the penalties that get them beat in years past. They had a very like when I look at the Old Miss game that they just had recently,

they, had, some, penalties, that, they, that was very unc uncharacteristic of what this team has done throughout the the year to where you sit back and almost go, "Oh, Miami is kind of being Miami right now with some of these penalties." some they didn't even get called for. But again, seeing Miami if they can get over this hump and win this national title to where the U is back. I know Crystal Ball hates that. I fantasize about that. I think the points are too long. So, I'm going with Miami plus eight, and a, half, just, because, I, believe like as far as the trenches go, the defense being if they're able to be more opportunistic if they get those opportunities on Mendoza because again they can stop the run with a lighter box because they have the catch which means defensively you have those extra guys for the RPO situations. It's just who's going to win the 50/50 balls when you get those back shoulders competing

against Serat and Cooper and those receivers. Uh, but I'm taking Miami plus eight and a half. One thing you brought up too when you're talking about Carson Beck is like um he's I mean this is his seventh year in college.

This, is, it. This, is, this, is, it., This, is, it, for, him right now. And you see his level of maturity taking place throughout the playoffs where he's got younger guys around him. He's got a lot of guys that are like, you know, barely able to drink, 20 years old, 19 years old. And he is just being a he's being a fantastic leader for that team because of his age and how long he's been able to see the game. And it's like that's a that's a really cool story. But then you look at Indiana and they have 44 players that are 24 and 25 years old. Like they're the oldest team in college football. And it's that level of maturity because we've all been

you, see, the, level, of, maturity at, the, college, age, where, you, get, to college, you know, someone's got you go out and have like a case race and you like really are like, you know, I'm out of I'm can booze. I can do all this. You're partying. You're kind of like learning about yourself as an individual. Now you're out of your parents house. But then you get to like 23 and you're like, "Okay, that was a lot of fun, but now I'm going to slow down." Because you your brain just starts to be like, "These really aren't the important things. This is where I need to focus."

Yeah., These, guys, are, reading, newspapers in the morning table. Yeah. So, I, look, at, this, team, that, has, 44 players that are 24 and 25 years old. They're not worried about the frat houses and the the house parties, the bars, all those things. They're these are grown adults. These are grown ass men. The phrase when I was your age has come out of the mouth of several Indiana players.

Yes. Listen, to, the, young, bugs, talk, about, how sore they might be or I, remember, those, days.

No, sore, man. Yeah. All, those, guys, say, calling, them, fresh legs. Man, it must be nice to be as young as you.

One, day, you'll, be, in, this, spot. Yeah,, exactly., It's, like,, well,, I, won't be another co. So, we won't.

Hopefully,, I'll, be, in, the, league., I, I'm I'm excited for this game. Walking out of those both those playoff games, my initial gut in the second game we got to watch was Indiana Oregon and just seeing the ass beating that Indiana put on Oregon. It's like I'm walking out of there thinking, "Yo, Miami doesn't have a chance." But every day that goes by, the pendulum swings for me mentally for whatever reason, it just swings more toward Miami because like this team's got everything that they need. the the offensive line. Like I'm standing up there. I don't know how many times I'm patting JP and Clump on the shoulder.

Like look at that offensive line. I don't, know if, it, was, the, all, whites making them look so big, but who's what's the name of the left tackle?

Markeel, Bell. Markeel, Bell., For, the, love, of, God, and we're up in a suite and I'm like, yo these dudes are massive.

I, think, Bell's, the, biggest, player, in, the sport. He's the biggest human I've seen in the sport in several years.

It, is, nuts., And, then, the, the, cats, that got across the line of scrimmage on defense with Mezador and Bane. It's they they have it all there. And I love you you can just feel the identity that they have taken with Crystal Ball. And I love seeing Crystal Ball getting in the postgame pressers or the the meeting he did the next day where he's going back and forth with Sab and he's going back and forth with Scott Vanpelt uh after the game. Like it it makes me just just root for it.

Yeah., I, had, that, same, exact, feeling about Oregon and Indiana and that was the result we got. If I swing the other way, every Indiana fan you meet when we were out there in Atlanta, incredible man. They just like pat you on the head. They smile and they say, "It's okay. You picked against us a few times this year. It's okay, man. We get it.

We, will, do." Not, even, we, get, it., Like,, I, didn't believe it either for smiling. You know we're all on this ride.

We, love, you, anyway., At, what, point, does that fan base, because they obvious you've brought it up, how they've been as long as football has been going on and Indiana Hooers have had a football team, they've been bad up until these last two years. At what point does that fan base flip to we're so excited to be here to we expect this?

I, don't, know,, bro., I, was, thinker, than, we think. We know what a little bit of success does some people's heads.

It's, there., It's, you, already. From, this, point, forward,, I, think, they're there.

So,, let's, say, they're, already, done, in the playoffs next year because you have to believe at this point Indiana's gonna be in the playoffs next year.

I, would, assume., Yeah. Yeah., Right., And, let's, say, they, go, into the first round, they might beat up a muffin, a G5 muffin, and then they go and play a real team and they lose. Are Indiana fans like this [ __ ] Signetti guy?

I, don't., Especially, if, they, win, Monday night by three. But if they win Monday night, no. If you win a title, you're you're set. they can miss the playoffs the next year and you say, "Hey man everybody has to hit the reset button. Why should we be any different?" I just wonder like, and I could say the same thing about Mario, when you get this close because it's not the BCS anymore where it's just two teams finish their season, voila, you're in the game right?

Miami, had, to, win, three, to, even, get, in this game. Indiana had to win two and really three because they had to beat Ohio State, too. So, they both had to go through it to get in this game. when you get so close and you you lurch for the belt, but you just miss it off your fingertips. You fall to the mat. That feeling in the expanded playoff era, it must make you feel like it's so borderline impossible to get all the way back there again. Think about how many things have to go right for us to get all the way back there again. It's tough.

That's, a, big, climb., Everything, you, just said to me made me think, man I, wish, you, would, get, in, NFL, football, a little bit because that that's the playoffs. Play the wild card division, a championship, and then you go Super Bowl and it's like you get right there and you never It's like you never go back and I feel like you would enjoy the storylines taking place in the NFL.

Can, I, tell, you, a, secret? Go, ahead. None, of, you, are, going, to, believe, this. I've watched every playoff game.

No,, you, haven't., Who, you, Who, do, you, like right now? Hey,, let, me, float, you, a, theory., Go ahead. Caleb Williams. Pretty good player.

Pretty, good, player. Pretty, good, player. A, good, take. Pretty, good, player.

Right., Elite. I, think, that, chapter, of, his, book, is, yet to be written. Elite moments the other day.

Oh, yeah. Talk, about, changing, the, fate, of, an entire city on that fourth down throw.

Fourth, and, eight., That, throw., It's, not just in the elite category. I feel like it's making its own category because that's how unbelievable it was.

That, throw, to, me, was, the, best, throw, I've ever seen in my entire life. I noticed that Josh was watching some NFL football because he had a tweet and then at halftime I shoot Josh a text. I'm like splattering in Chicago.

Oh, my, goodness. Oh,, I, saw, that. And, then, uh, what, did, you, end, up, saying? You're like I need one more touchdown.

First, off,, I, told, you, cuz, it, was, 213, and I said you can't do that yet.

You, can't, do, it, because, my, biggest, fear is premature splattering. A, lot, of, people, have, fears, about, other premature things. My fear is premature splattering because if you tweet out it's a splattering in blank

and, then, that, team, comes, back, to, win that's the ultimate freezing cold take. You will never live that down. I've never suffered a premature splattering. You wanted

never, suffered, a, premature, splatter. Never, close., Never, even, close. So, I've, waited, until, the, game's, for, sure over to say it's a splattering, but it's an exact science. And at 21 to3 you texted me privately. I didn't reveal this. You just revealed this. You said it's a splattering in Chicago. And I said, "Can't do it yet. Maybe one more touchdown and we can do it. We can't do it yet." And sure enough, Chicago comes all the way back to win. I screenshot the text, but I marked your name out.

That, was, you. And, I, tweeted, it, out, and, I, said,, "I, hope I hope it never comes out. Who sent this to me?

It, just, came, out., God." So,, I, sat, there., I'm, still I, still, wish, we, could, go, back, and, he could tweet that out just because the whole just stay in college football. All everything that would come from it would just be so funny. But yeah, you would love the You're watching it. You're enjoying it right now a little bit, aren't you?

Where's, John, Harbaugh, going? Not, to, the, Titans, as, much, as, K, Adams wanted me to say it yesterday.

Wow., Do, we, have, any, inkling, of, who, the Titans might be getting? I, I, have, not, had, my, ear, to, the, ground, at all. Not at all.

Today,, they, said, Harbaugh, is, one, of, the favorites of Titans top three. That's, Clump, right, there., It's, a, nice place to live in.

It's, a, great, place, to, neighborhood. Decent source. I am uh I am hoping it's Arthur Smith. I am hoping it's Arthur Smith.

Non-selfishly., No, selfish, tie, to, that whatsoever. Non, selfishly. No., Absolutely., Yeah., Just, for, the betterment of the franchise.

I, want, the, Titans, to, be, great., I, think Arthur Smith is the man to make them great in that mustache.

He, gets, it. We, feel, good. So, you're, you're, I'm, going, Miami. I, thought, you, were, going, to, take, a, total on the national title game. That's what I thought you would do about it

which, would, be, just, like, play, up, those things. I'm taking the over. Give, me, the, over.

It's, gonna, be, a, great, game. It, is. And, honestly,, good, luck, to, you. Thank, you.

It'll, be, fun, to, watch. 47, and, a, half. That's, over., That's, an, over, game.

Could, be,, could, be, under. Indiana, gets, up, big., Indiana, gets, up. Miami, starts, to, press

and, then, they, either, come, back, or Indiana takes advantage and picks more points. But there it'll be. So, you think this is going to be Indiana's going to like handle

Well,, the, game, is, the, game, is, eight, and a half. Indiana's favorite by eight and a half. Like, I'm taking Indiana eight and a, half., I, believe, we, have, a potential splattery on our hand.

Where, do, you where, we, sit, back, in, the, like, going, into the fourth quarter going

"Oh,, no, bro., They, really, did, it, with, this, level of talent. Like, this might be the best coaching we've ever seen in our entire lives."

How, do, you, There's, 10, minutes, to, go, in the fourth quarter. What's, the, commentary, in, the, game?, Is, it a one possession game? Is it still Nip and Tuck or are Fowler and Herb Street already eulogizing Miami and they're already crystallizing what the story of Indiana is and everyone's already worried on Miami message boards about which, quarterback, we're, going to, get, in the portal. Like where is the mind 10 minutes to go into game? I see this game where they're sitting there and Fowler's going on and on about Indiana and how great of a season they have and they've really gotten over the hurdle and look how amazing this is and there's going to be a there's going to be a moment where it sparks in Kirk Herb Street's head where it's like we've been giving a lot of flowers to Indiana and he's going to switch it. He's like Indiana's been amazed but we also have to give a lot of credit to Mario Chris Paul and these

Miami Hurricanes people want to talk about them the U being back. The U is back regardless of the circumstances of what's happening in this game right now. They're have a big future ahead of them. That is kind of what in my head is going to take place.

Sounds, like, either, way, it's, a, double digit lead for Indiana at that point.

Yes. So, it's, out, of, reach, like, games, games decide. You, just, wait., Fowler, will, be, sitting there and he and they'll be back and forth about how great Indiana is. Wow.

But, Kirk's, going, to, be, the, one, to, flip the script on. Let's also talk about how great Miami is. That's what's going to take place in this game.

It's, pretty, antilimactic. I, guess, it's, right, in, line, with, what Indiana

to, me., This, is, a, bow, on, a, great, college football season. Yeah., But, don't, you, want, to, see something down to the wire just to like

No, doubt., I, think, we, all, would., I, mean, not based on the show. I don't. But I think if Indiana goes and they do what they've done this entire playoffs to everybody they played against. It's a perfect bow to be like this logo has never sniffed this. Like this has been one, of the, coolest seasons we've ever watched. We've ever been a part of. I don't know if it's cuz we've do dove into it more than ever as individuals or the show or it's actually that good in college football.

It's, that, good and, it's, like, if, Indiana, takes, it, here and you can see a lot about Miami as well like the U being back you know the 90s nice whenever that the U was

it's, like, that's, that'll, be, exciting, as well but seeing that logo hoisted trophy after a dominant win is like this might have been the best year of college football ever

that's, what's, exciting., Hey,, can, I, tell you something? Go, ahead. I, think, it, was, the, best, year, either, way.

Really? Best, year, for, us. Well,, if, it, if, it, it's, Vince, flipped, on the other side that he's talking about it's a close game.

We, could, have, ended, on, that. We, really, could, end, it, right, there. Like, you're, saying,, it's, going, to, be, a, a big, win, for, Indiana., It's, going to, put, a bow on the greatest or the best college football we've seen. And he's like, I think it's the best college football we've seen either way. And I'm like well, the other side of it is just a a barn burner of a game that we all love and we're like, damn, what a year of college football. Either way, we're all winning.

Either, way,, we've, won. But, now, I, have, to, find, out, who, wins. Yes. Cuz, the, only, thing, that, matters, is

record. Exact., Exactly. And, I, again, before, the, show,, Clump, was saying that we have a verbal commitment for the show next year.

I, didn't, know, if, we, were, allowed, to announce that. We read applause for But, hey,, no,, no., I, I, think, we, we, we applaud it over on the other side. But now you we got to remember we're in the world of college football commitments

talk, to, them,, take, them, out, to, a contract, isn't, signed. We, can't, wait, till, April, to, reach, back out to pay.

Yeah., Hey,, let, me, ask, you., Did, something happen recently to you? What's, the, deal, with, the, verbal, commit? I mean, you really forcefully said that.

Did, something, happen? You, can't, imagine, about, what, goes, on. Even the contract, I guess, could be signed and you could pull it to mom Williams.

I, may, go, do, a, show, with, Will, Stein. You, should., and, you, should, zoom, me, in, or call me and FaceTime me in at some point.

You, guys, buried, the, hatchet, though., I saw you talking. I saw you and we, had, a, good, little, conversation., We had a good little conversation. We have a a common friend that we are both close with that we were kind of also growing our friendship over.

Okay., That's, what, it's, all, about. You, want, to, come, to, a, Kentucky, game?

Nobody. Come, out, to, Kentucky, for, the, spring tour? No. I'll say this about Nebraska because it always comes back to Nebraska on this show. Over the last three years this is the most excited I've been to watch Nebraska this next season.

Oh, yeah. This, quarterback,, this, UNLV, cat,, I, can't even pronounce his name. We've done it six times yesterday.

Anthonyria, I, [ __ ], love, him. Haven't, met, him., Saw, one, clip., I'm obsessed with him.

Magic, in, his, legs. Yeah. Live, arm., That, was, the, scouting, report. 3,600, yards, last, year., And, the, kid [ __ ] he's got the juice.

Yeah,, he's, got, the, juice. Nebraska's, in, a, great, spot., Some, say, the best spot in recent years.

You're, too, early. In, a, fitting, end, to, the, show,, Josh, Pate completely punted on saying if he's verbally committing to coming back next year.

Isn't, that, fitting? It's, a, It's, a, fickle, game., It's, a, fickle game out there.

Reportedly,, I, am. I'm, reportedly, verbally, committed., Isn't that accurate?

Yes. Clumps, reporting, it? I'm, reporting, it. Has, Nikos, put, it, out, there, yet?, He, has not put it out there yet. I don't have a graphic yet.

We'll, make, you, a, graphic. Coop. Boom. Can't, go, back, on, that. Can't, go, back.

If, recent, history's, taught, us, anything, you can't go back on a graphic. I, love, it.

I, feel, good, about, it. Yeah, I, feel, good, about, it. Feel, good. All right,, boys., Big, hugs,, tiny, kisses. Thank you for an amazing year. Let's give a round of applause to everybody here. All the boys in the back producing the show. It's been an amazing year. Thank you. Big hugs, tiny kisses.

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