Transcript

REDEMPTION THROUGH LAW: THE VETERAN FIGHTING FOR SECOND CHANCES || DANIELLE SKRANAK || EPISODE 063

From Code To Winning · Episode page · Watch on YouTube

· 45 min · 9,776 words · 150 timestamped sections

This is the full, timestamped transcript of "REDEMPTION THROUGH LAW: THE VETERAN FIGHTING FOR SECOND CHANCES || DANIELLE SKRANAK || EPISODE 063", an episode of Code To Winning published October 17, 2025 (45 min, about 9,776 words). It mentions 63 people, works and ideas, including U.S. Attorney’s Office, civil liberties, restitution, court fees, 48th president.

What this episode is about

The focus of the discussion centers on the process of restoring civil liberties to convicted felons, specifically in Arizona, where a recent law allows individuals with a single felony conviction to have their voting, office-running, and certain other rights restored automatically, though gun rights require a separate petition. The conversation highlights the complexities involving different classes of felonies, the criteria for restoration based on past behavior, and the steps necessary for individuals to regain their rights and participate fully in society.

Key takeaways

  • Arizona's new law: a salvation for some felons, but gun rights remain elusive. Redemption, one step at a time.
  • For felons, losing civil rights is one thing; restoring them is a paper battle, sans lawyer fees.
  • One felony or two: Arizona's redemption hinges on numbers. Multiple crimes? Brace for extra scrutiny.
  • Felony classes dictate fate: carrying a weapon? Restoring rights just got trickier.
  • Voting is a right, not a given for felons. Arizona's 2022 reform makes a distinction.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: civil liberties, 48th president, 48th state, criminal law
  2. – 10:00: 48th president, 48th state, absolute discharge, aggravated DUI
  3. – 15:00: civil liberties, Christian university, Fort Levvenworth prison, judicial system
  4. – 20:00: Flagstaff, Minnesota, U.S. Attorney’s Office, vehicular manslaughter
  5. – 25:00: Empire State Building, Kansas, O. J. Simpson, Oscar Ptorius
  6. – 30:00: legal research, Chat GBT, Minnesota, U.S. Attorney’s Office
  7. – 35:00: criminal justice, judicial system, U.S. Attorney’s Office
  8. – 40:00: court fees, restitution, blue collar workers, Cape Creek
  9. – 45:00: blue collar workers, Harvey Spectre, Megan Markle, Mike Ross

Notable quotes from "REDEMPTION THROUGH LAW: THE VETERAN FIGHTING FOR SECOND CHANCES || DANIELLE SKRANAK || EPISODE 063"

  • I help convicted felons restore their civil liberties. And those liberties include the ability to vote, to run for office, and to have firearms. Those are the three major things that people lose once they become a convicted felon.
    about civil liberties · at
  • Listen, Danielle, I need to vote for the 48th president, whoever that may be.
    about 48th president · at
  • Really want to restore their rights for individuals who went to prison, serve their time, paid their restitution, and have since lived a better life.
    about restitution · at
  • Time. They also had to pay thousands of dollars for a lawyer and had to pay thousands of dollars for court fees and tend to MAD classes, Mothers Against Destructive Driving.…
    about court fees · at
  • Yeah. Well, I can't give you legal advice, but I can definitely tell you at my time with the US attorney's office.
    about U.S. Attorney’s Office · at
  • Parallegal, I don't know. I'm a big fan of suits. I just thought it was Yes. I always get called Megan Markle. I love I'd love to be the Prince of England one day.
    about Megan Markle · at
  • That's kind of the main goal here is again, we're not trying to I don't think our judicial system should be punishing you for the rest of your life. I will do the best I can to…
    about judicial system · at
  • Although other states have adopted the same model. So I have helped people like in the state of Washington and Minnesota too.
    about Minnesota · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Megan Markle — Person · 2 mentions · first at
  • Danielle Scranck — Person · 1 mention · first at
    To make sure I like you know these check Scandinavian last name. It's going to be Danielle Scranck in the studio.
  • Oscar Ptorius — Person · 1 mention · first at
    No, no jury. No jury. A judge. So, we remember we had that famous case in 2010 with Oscar Ptorius. The one with like no Yes.
  • O. J. Simpson — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Be very not okay and very biased. we've seen a lot of bias cases. OJ Simpson, all the well many different stuff. You know what I'm saying? But I just had to share that. So would you go to undergrad? Where did you go.
  • Harvey Spectre — Person · 1 mention · first at
    I love that so much. so yeah, we have Mrs. Harvey Spectre here as well, so I hope you prepared.
  • Mike Ross — Person · 1 mention · first at
    What was Megan Markle's name? I forgot her name. I know Mike Ross and Oh my gosh. Rachel. Yes, Rachel. Rachel Zane.
  • Rachel Zane — Person · 1 mention · first at
    What was Megan Markle's name? I forgot her name. I know Mike Ross and Oh my gosh. Rachel. Yes, Rachel. Rachel Zane.

Companies & orgs

  • U.S. Attorney’s Office — Company · 5 mentions · first at
  • Mothers Against Destructive Driving — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Dollars for a lawyer and had to pay thousands of dollars for court fees and tend to MAD classes, Mothers Against Destructive Driving. Those are kind of mandatory in our state…
  • Christian university — Company · 1 mention · first at
    And he was beyond like traumatized because you have this guy just attending like obviously a Christian university which we attended.
  • Wall Street — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Think seven or eight cuz I live I did an internship in New York. Wall Street.
  • Federal public defender's office — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Should be asking for. It's kind of and you have such a great relationship too with the federal public defender's office that you just, you know exactly what is what you need to…
  • ASU — Company · 1 mention
  • Pro Parillegal AZ — Company · 1 mention
  • Wikipedia — Company · 1 mention

Products & tech

  • Chat GBT — Product · 1 mention · first at
    We've I've experimented with my friends who are lawyers already and just asking chat GBT question certain questions and they're always just like that's not it and then we'd go back to legal research and it's not right.

Concepts & topics

  • civil liberties — Concept · 4 mentions · first at
  • restitution — Concept · 3 mentions · first at
  • court fees — Concept · 3 mentions · first at
  • 48th president — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
  • 48th state — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
    We are still in the amazing state of Arizona, the 48th state. we're going to have an expert criminal law parallegal. the company that she has started and founded as well. veteran founded, just driven, committed to.
  • judicial system — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
  • vehicular manslaughter — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
    Know, I've I've done manslaughter before. vehicular manslaughter and I've done What is that?
  • legal research — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
    Questions and they're always just like that's not it and then we'd go back to legal research and it's not right.
  • blue collar workers — Concept · 2 mentions · first at
    Understand the necessity for it, but I'm kind of like you. I like in person, but I'm trying to cater towards the blue collar workers who are about 90% of my clientele base. So…
  • criminal law — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    We are still in the amazing state of Arizona, the 48th state. we're going to have an expert criminal law parallegal. the company that she has started and founded as well.…
  • licensed document preparer — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Unnecessary. This is such a cut and dry situation that you can have a parillegal or a licensed document preparer, which I'm both help you fill out the paperwork and restore your rights at a much more affordable cost.
  • aggravated DUI — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    So, it's a possibility. I know dozens of people who have a DUI where it was an aggravated DUI. and they did serve time. They also had to pay thousands of dollars for a lawyer…
  • marijuana expungements — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    But so I don't really know. I know that we do offer marijuana expungements in the state. So if you're previously convicted of an offense that involved marijuana, you can have that expuned from your record, which is fantastic now.
  • absolute discharge — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Your firearm rights, you have to wait at least two years from the date of your absolute discharge, which is either your last day in prison or your last day of probation. so…
  • probation — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Absolute discharge, which is either your last day in prison or your last day of probation. so, yeah, there's a waiting period for it for sure. And it works out great because in…
  • Prince of England — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Yes. I always get called Megan Markle. I love I'd love to be the Prince of England one day.
  • criminal justice — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    I really love criminal justice. It is so fascinating. my time at the US Attorney's Office, I get to work at 8 and by 4:00 I just like I couldn't believe that it was 4:00.
  • victim's fee — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Have to pay. We like at the US attorney's office at the federal level, we'll have like a victim's fee. This helps us pre be able to provide victims where certain services like…
  • discovery — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Whatever it is, you kind of understand okay, this is what I in like discovery and stuff. This is what I should be asking for. It's kind of and you have such a great…
  • 18 U.S.C. § 922(g) ("922G stuff") — Concept · 1 mention
  • 2022 Arizona law (automatic restoration for one-time felony conviction) — Concept · 1 mention
  • DUI — Concept · 1 mention
  • ELSAT — Concept · 1 mention
  • expunged — Concept · 1 mention
  • felon disenfranchisement — Concept · 1 mention
  • felony classes (classless felonies, dangerous felonies, serious offenses) — Concept · 1 mention
  • firearm rights restoration — Concept · 1 mention
  • immigration detention — Concept · 1 mention
  • jury trial — Concept · 1 mention
  • marijuana legalization (Arizona) — Concept · 1 mention
  • paralegal — Concept · 1 mention
  • restoration of rights — Concept · 1 mention
  • Second-degree rape — Concept · 1 mention
  • standardized packet — Concept · 1 mention
  • visa overstay — Concept · 1 mention
  • W-2 — Concept · 1 mention

Places & events

  • Minnesota — Place · 2 mentions · first at
  • Fort Levvenworth prison — Place · 1 mention · first at
    I used to be also a military police officer at the infamous Fort Levvenworth prison. and one of the biggest things that we were told in our training is that it's not our responsibility to uphold their punishment. They're already.
  • Nevada — Place · 1 mention · first at
    Laws. You do understand that. However, he was like in a detention facility just recently in Nevada for like 2 3 weeks.
  • Flagstaff — Place · 1 mention · first at
    Man in particular, he unfortunately went hunting. It's about 1998. He went hunting up in Flagstaff. him and his buddy, his best friend actually, they went to a bar in Flagstaff…
  • South Africa — Place · 1 mention · first at
    So, he did he's got his own law firm as well doing super well, but he does law in the South Africa is very different to law in the United States.
  • Kansas — Place · 1 mention · first at
    I've I've lived here, Kansas, DC, Washington, Oregon. I've lived everywhere.
  • Empire State Building — Place · 1 mention · first at
    It was in New York. It was the Empire State Building kind of thing as well.
  • Cape Creek — Place · 1 mention · first at
    Workers. and so they just don't have the time to come up to where I'm at in Cape Creek to do it. So, and we had attended a mastermind here. One of the owners, Jason, he holds a…
  • Mesa — Place · 1 mention

Sponsors

Full transcript with timestamps

I help convicted felons restore their civil liberties. And those liberties include the ability to vote, to run for office, and to have firearms. Those are the three major things that people lose once they become a convicted felon. Unfortunately, in 2022, Arizona made this new law where if you are a one-time felony conviction, then you can have your rights automatically restored. Doesn't include your gun rights, so you'll still have to petition for that separately. But if you just have one, you can get them back. If you have more than one, you still have to petition through the state to get it back. And they'll look at your record, see if you've committed any more felonies, if you've been a positive influence in your community to see if they will approve your application.

When you say you help restore convicted felons rights, does it matter what crime they committed?

It does. Okay. Can you can you kind of elaborate on that? There's a different classes of felonies. So, you have like your kind of like classless felonies, people who have got a DUI or they've done something kind of off-the-wall that landed them a conviction. There's also dangerous ones, which is those who usually it involves another weapon. And those ones are very much more stringent on who can get their application approved with those because normally if your firearm rights restored and you committed a felony with a weapon, court is not going to be as lenient as they would be with a DUI.

Listen, Danielle, I need to vote for the 48th president, whoever that may be. Like, I want to be able to get my voice heard. What's the steps and procedure that you would take? What's the first thing we're going to go through? The code to winning insights you need today to seize the world tomorrow. This is an again a very unique interview. Uh have an amazing guest in the studio with us. We are still in the amazing state of Arizona, the 48th state. Uh we're going to have an expert criminal law parallegal. Um the company that she has started and founded as well. Uh veteran founded, just driven, committed to restoring your rights with honor and precision. Um our amazing guest. I want to make sure I like uh you know these check Scandinavian last name. It's going to be Danielle Scranck in the studio.

Welcome. Thank you very much. Hi, nice to meet you. Thank you so much for having me.

Awesome stuff. Uh I was like I said I'm very fascinated to learn. I love legal aspect of things. Uh it's also very important that people get to understand what are their rights cuz for the most part people don't even understand like what they can do what they're entitled to knowing what they're entitled to like you know the right to having as well. So can you give us a brief overview of exactly like what you do what your your your your firm or company stands for?

Yeah absolutely. So, I help convicted felons restore their civil liberties. And those liberties include the ability to vote, to run for office, um, and to have firearms. Those are the three major things that people lose once they become a convicted felon, unfortunately.

Okay. And then why would um what's the difference? Why would they not go to an attorney? What what what is it that you guys do that's a little bit more more unique and different?

Well, you're always welcome to consult an attorney, but it's just really unnecessary. This is such a cut and dry situation that you can have a parillegal or a licensed document preparer, which I'm both um help you fill out the paperwork and restore your rights at a much more affordable cost.

And I noticed as well, I think, um we spoke about it earlier on usually like in swing states um depending on where things were. Um there were cases where many people were not allowed. I thought as as a citizen, not a green card, as an actual citizen, I was under the impression that every single person is entitled to vote. So if you have a a felony, you can't vote at all.

Correct. It's as the day you're convicted, it is it is gone away. Yeah. Can it be restored or how does that work?

Yeah, it can absolutely be restored. So in 2022, Arizona um made this new law where if you are a one-time felony conviction um then you can have your rights automatically restored. Doesn't include your gun rights. So you'll still have to petition for that separately. But if you just have one, you can get them back. If you have more than one, you still have to petition through the state to get it back. and they'll look at your record, see if you've committed any more felonies, if you've been a positive influence in your community, um to see if they will approve your application.

And then how many cases? So, I mean, obviously it's very nuanced, but how many cases um is a case by case situation. They look into certain stuff, right? What are what's taken in consideration regarding that?

Well, just if you've been employed, if you've started a family, if you've just not it just they just want make want to make sure that you're not going to reoffend. That's their biggest concern is they don't want to take it away again and then you have to play, you know, they don't want the back and forth. They really want to restore their rights for individuals who went to prison, serve their time, paid their restitution, and have since lived a better life.

But does it also matter which um when you say you help restore uh um convicted felons rights, does it matter what crime they committed?

It does. Okay. Can you can you kind of elaborate on that? There's a different classes of felonies. Do you have like your kind of like classless felonies? People who have, I don't know, got a DUI or they've done something kind of off-the-wall that landed them a conviction. Um, there's also dangerous ones, which is those who usually it involves another weapon. And those ones are very much more stringent on who can get their application approved with those because normally if you're applying to have your weapons restored, your excuse me, your firearm rights restored and you committed a felony with a weapon, the court is not going to be as lenient as they would be with a DUI. Um, and in in most cases, it's kind of a a solid no across the board. There's a list of them like if you committed murder, if you raped a child, if you know you uh did a driveby shooting, those ones are usually the ones where they say no. And that's

understandable right? 100%. Yeah. 100%. And so the the whole DUI thing, the reason why I mean I I don't drink alcohol at all, but at the same time, I feel like um crimes are different. So, it's hard to really judge somebody who perhaps took a few sips, a few ounces of alcohol driving down like the 48th state, you know, and then somebody that murdered or killed a family or killed somebody. So, but the fact that felon is a felon, you know what I'm saying? So, how do you walk somebody through the process? So, let's say now I have done that like I was caught. I drove down from Phoenix to Mesa or whatever it may be and I got caught and now I have a DUI. Um, do you serve jail for that sometimes depending on the situation?

Uh, yeah, it depends on the situation. We're a zero tolerance state. We are one of the worst states in the country when it comes to DUIs. Um, so we're much harsher on our penalties here for sure. So, it's a possibility. I know dozens of people who have a DUI where it was an aggravated DUI. Um, and they did serve time. They also had to pay thousands of dollars for a lawyer and um had to pay thousands of dollars for court fees and tend to MAD classes, Mothers Against Destructive Driving. Those are kind of mandatory in our state now, too, for I think almost every DUI. But yeah, so it's we're just a little bit harsher here in Arizona, unfortunately.

That's crazy. Yeah, I mean like I said, I don't drink um obviously because of my beliefs and all that, but like I I say for somebody to go and serve time. I guess they have the perception to try and like avoid people from doing so by having such harsher repercussions and like consequences regarding that as well. However, to serve time like it's the same thing with the whole thing I had personally in my beliefs with the whole people that were I don't know distributing and selling like marijuana getting like a 10year jail prison. I'm like what about those actually? What about that? in Arizona. If you were selling marijuana, can you get off um from that or is that a little a little bit more different?

Yeah. Well, I can't give you legal advice, but I can definitely tell you at my time with the US attorney's office. It's not something we normally prosecute for marijuana. That's more of a state side. Okay.

But so I don't really know. I know that we do offer marijuana expungements in the state. So if you're previously convicted of an offense that involved marijuana, you can have that expuned from your record, which is fantastic now that we've legalized it here in our state. Um, but I don't know if you'd serve time for it or not.

Okay. Then, um, again, I got caught. So, now I I can't vote. I can't bear arms. I'm I'm just a citizen, but I can't even run. Obviously, you can't run for public office if you can't vote.

So, now I'm coming into your office right now and I'm like, listen, Danielle, I need to vote for the 48th president, whoever that may be. Like, I want to be able to get my voice heard. What's the steps and procedure that you would take? What's the first thing we're going to go through?

Yeah, I want to look to to see what your conviction would be first and foremost. I you know, like I said, there is a list of felonies that they just will not um they will just will not allow it. And that again makes sense. We were talking about the heinous crimes.

Um just to see if you're eligible. If you're eligible, then we'll kind of go through, you know, what are your goals? Is your goal that do you want just your civil rights restored, which is the voting and running for office? Do you want to have your firearms restored? Um, and then again, we'll look at the list to make sure you're not in that those classes, the dangerous or serious offenses. Um, and then I just help you prepare the packet. There's a packet that's standardized across the state. Um, and there it's kind of like a checkbox um, situation where it's just like, you know, have you reoffended since then? Do you have a job? Where do you live? Um, and what you know, are you an upstanding citizen is basically what you want to kind of display to the judge. Because once you submit your packet, it will go before a judge or prosecutor. I believe it's a judge. Yes.

Um and they will look to see if you're gonna if you're likely to reaffend or not. Um

but then so it it's not like a thing where I just got a DUI yesterday. I got out of prison. It's one of those things where you'd recommend they probably go get a job, find something to do, at least fill out like a 1099 or W2 tax form, like be an upholding citizen because it and I think just naturally by seeing that even regardless whether you're Judge or not, you can see there's a trajectory that someone seems to be following and they're trying to uphold. um and be in good standing with their community as well.

Exactly. Yeah. And there's a waiting period, too. If you want to apply for your firearm rights, you have to wait at least two years from the date of your absolute discharge, which is either your last day in prison or your last day of probation. Um so, yeah, there's a waiting period for it for sure. And it works out great because in those two years, you should be able to show that you've you've excelled better in life since your your imprisonment.

Oh, I love that. I my perception of parallegal, I don't know. I'm a big fan of suits. I just thought it was uh

Yes. I always get called Megan Markle. I love I'd love to be the Prince of England one day.

Yes. So, that was that was my perception of that. And then um Dakota broke it down. I'm like, whoa, that's that's very interesting because I feel like people deserve to know what their rights are because I feel like

um what's the point of being a citizen if you aren't exercising your rights to be a citizen? You know what I'm saying? And I think it's important everyone has their voices heard to actually add to the community because you're being led by people and you have the right to vote who you want to be led by you.

Um so what made you start this? Oh man. Um really, you know, I grew up in such an unconventional household. My mom remarried and so I'm growing up in this biracial family. My stepfather, he got a DUI and it was a felony DUI unfortunately. And it completely changed our world. you could see just how difficult it makes an American to be able to fulfill his role as a father and to be able to put food on the table. It was harder for him to get a job. People didn't want to rent houses to us. Um so it just made it extremely more difficult and he did 4 months in prison and when he got out he wasn't a better person. He didn't drink anymore. Um, and he really changed his life around, but yet we were still, you know, struggling really hard.

And I felt like it shouldn't be a lifetime sentence essentially to be a felon. Um, and so eventually I was able to get him his gun rights back and his civil liberties restored and his significantly better. Significantly better. It's wild how much we put this stigma on individuals who have a past conviction. Um, I used to be also a military police officer at the infamous Fort Levvenworth prison. Um, and one of the biggest things that we were told in our training is that it's not our responsibility to uphold their punishment. They're already punished by being in prison. And so we shouldn't be negative or uh again have that stigma or be biased towards them because they're felons. So,

you know, it's it's interesting. I recently um one of my best friends is from Australia and we um there was an episode that was released right now. One of uh cuz he had two immigration attorneys. What happened is that his paperwork it's it's a little different obviously but I'm going to talk about the like the experience that he faced.

Um he uh there was something that was not renewed on time and he was given misinformation. But like to cut the long story short, uh because you overstayed like a certain time with your visa.

Yeah. Uh with the whole ICE thing that end up occurring, which is understandable because at the end of the day, it's the laws. You do understand that. However, he was like in a detention facility just recently in in in Nevada for like 2 3 weeks.

Oh wow. And he was beyond like traumatized because you have this guy just attending like obviously a Christian university which we attended.

Yeah. uh just getting all this exposure in these detention facilities and like just coming out of that like he's you could see the trauma that is being faced. Why I'm talking and mentioning that story is the fact that obviously felons and people that are convicted um depending on whatever the crime may be, you're still in a facility that can end up like bringing like emotional damage whether you're inside there as well. And then the last thing you want is coming out and then figuring out this is like a damping like image on your record because first of all getting a job when you have a felon felony or whatever it may be. It's it's hard enough but now trying to like not even get your voices heard. I wonder why that even started.

Do you know the historical context behind why that happened? H you know I don't I wish I did. That's that's such a great question. But um yeah, you know, it is extremely debilitating to leave prison and and one to have to start your life all over, especially I mean 2 or 3 weeks is is a long period of time, but even for the individuals who've been there for months or years, they have to readjust. There's there's certain things that they're going to have to get back. They're going to have to find a place to live and a job and and like you said, it's really hard to find a job when you have a felony. Um, and yeah, so that's one of my goals is really, and I I've seen it in my practice already, is when I once I restore these civil liberties, I do see a sense of hope in their eye again. And that's kind of the main goal here is again, we're not trying to I don't think our judicial system should be punishing

you for the rest of your life. I will do the best I can to help you get these rights restored, and hopefully you're able to get to that next step that you need to go to make your life more successful.

And I I know that you we did stress a lot on the DUI. Um, what other ones in your practice have you guys helped people like um get their rights restored? If you don't mind sharing, you know,

I've I've done manslaughter before. Um, vehicular manslaughter and I've done What is that?

So, vehicular manslaughter. This this man in particular, he um unfortunately went hunting. It's about 1998. He went hunting up in Flagstaff. him and his buddy, his best friend actually, um they went to a bar in Flagstaff before they got to their hunting post and they were driving back from Flagstaff to the hunting post and he unfortunately the driver took uh too harsh of a turn, landed in a tree and it instantly killed his best friend. Yeah. Spent eight years in prison. Um but I was able to get him his civil rights and his gun rights back. So now he can go hunting with his son. And you see it's already stuff like that. That's what I was talking about.

Like no way did he have any intention to try and kill his friend. And so I'm glad you explained that cuz sometimes we hear the term manslaughter. Sorry. Continue. Yeah.

No. No. And I was just going to say in fact the family was totally against the prosecution knew that it was a mistake on his part and that he never would have actually intentionally killed their son. Um and so yeah, that story still gives me chills. But yeah, I mean it's it's a mistake. And I do agree that the heinous crimes that we talked about, they should not have their rights restored. Killing people uh intentionally is is obviously very gruesome and and horrible. But for the individuals who have this DUI or or have the vehicular manslaughter charges, I just I feel so deeply for them because it was a mistake when they were super young. And I know that they did not intentionally mean to do that. M and of course like and that's what I was kind of like referring to as well earlier on is the fact that can you imagine the traumatic experience that he already faced like one of your best friends and

you are responsible for this as a driver. It was not intended and then like it's already like it's going to be a depressing state. It's going to be a place where they're going to be just feeling that emotional distress, you know,

and um I think that's that's a little crazy. And then what's the process? How how long is it for them to get that when when it starts? Well, the court system is always very long. Um, it's really up to them. I I would say just estimate between 90 to 120 days is usually the the rough period of time.

That's better than being that forever. Right. Right. Yeah. Because a lot of people don't realize too that this is something that they can do. That's one of my biggest goals too is education is like getting felons to understand that this is something that they can do. I often talk to felons through the community and especially when I work at the US attorney's office and they had no idea that this was possible for them. Oh, so that's that's my be my next question. Do you work with law firms, attorney's office or stuff like that in terms of outsourcing? Um because I think in sometimes in cases like uh law firms I've noticed um they can end up like delegating uh other cases that they don't want to take and stuff like that. Is that very common in your in your

Well, I just opened it is my goal but uh it I just opened so not yet. Yeah. Yeah. I because I agree there's a lawyers really view this as parallegal work which is great. Um because it definitely is. You don't you don't necessarily need a lawyer to help you through this. This is very much just paper pushing and and getting you to fill out all the forms correctly. Um because that's one of the biggest mistakes too that felons have is they don't fill out all the paperwork and they don't do it correctly. So then it gets rejected.

Um but yes, that is my goal to work with defense firms to to outsource this type of work. And then obviously primarily the state of Arizona.

Yes. Would that be cases? Sorry, continue. No, no, no. I was just going to say although other states have adopted the same model. So I have helped people like in the state of Washington and Minnesota too.

I was about to say when when you say that um I've noticed sometimes uh with law firms they end up or not necessarily partnering but keeping tabs of hey listen try and help this person do the same thing. Is that is that your plan as well in the long term to try and do that across many states?

Yes. And then Trump too is is getting ready to um reintroduce felons being able to get their felony rights or excuse me felons to get their firearm rights back to at the federal level which hasn't been done since 1992 thanks to Chuck Schumer. Um but yes, I want to be able to do that too.

You're a big Chuck Schumer fan? No, I I'm not a big fan of It was called Crying Chuck by Trump. She's got a name for everyone.

I'm not a big fan. I don't there's there is cases with the Supreme Court that we really shouldn't even be legally allowed to take firearm weapons away. So I just did not agree with this 922G stuff. But

so you're a big Second Amendment kind of woman. Yes. Huge gun rights advocate. I I think that this is something that we as Americans are entitled to for the Constitution and our Second Amendment rights. Um, so I don't agree that we should be taking this away from people unless they're mentally um ill or they have committed felonies with weapons in the past.

And it's it's hard to obviously track it uh down because um obviously me I'm right now a permanent resident of the United States and learning the historical context behind it and like the American Revolution um second amendment being in place to try and ensure that the government cannot be like a tyranny and try and like uh overthrow its people as well like that. So historically everything kind of like makes sense and and and also obviously with I told you earlier on my father-in-law had like multiple like guns as well. So uh recreational activity and all that kind of thing and also um in situations where I you know want someone that I care and love about to be able to defend themsel in case I may not be there as well. So there's a lot of like reasons behind it. Um at the same time there probably needs to be a bit more like control to make sure the right people have the guns. It's like what do you say in situations like that?

I don't want to go off topic with that, but like I know you're passionate about it, so I had to try and let you know I agree with a lot of stuff, but I also understand why the other side is getting super crazy, but I don't want like extreme stuff happening. I think everything happens in order. What's your opinion on that?

Oh man, that's such a loaded question. Uh, you know, I I I truly agree with our constitution that it is our everyone's right to bear arms if you're a United States citizen. Um, I agree, like I said earlier, that if you're mentally incapacitated or you are a dangerous individual because you've committed crimes in the past that you shouldn't have it. But,

um, I think generally, yeah, everyone should be able to own a weapon, own a gun.

I think it's imperative, in fact, as a part of our constitution. All righty. All righty. Um, and now just to go more into this, um, where do you see you your PR? I know you just started right now, but I can see the ambition and the excitement and you're knowledgeable in the in in in the spirit. Where do you see yourself going in the next 5 years with this?

Yeah. So, I am trying to get into law school for next year and I want to take this to the next level. Still being able to um provide affordable services for individuals who want to have their gun rights back. Um, but just really advocating at a policy level to make sure that this happens. So, I talked earlier about the Supreme Court case. I really want to see where that goes and be a part of that momentum as we continue to go um with this administration.

Just promise me you don't go in turn by Pearson Spectit. Such a good show. Really inaccurate about everything, but it's a really good show.

No, the reason why I say my my dad uh my dad's an attorney back at home. Oh, he's been practicing for over 20 years. So, he did he um he's got his own law firm as well doing super well, but he does um law in the South Africa is very different to law in the United States. Obviously, we don't like no jury and stuff but

Oh, no jury. Wow. No, no jury. No jury. A judge. So, we remember we had that famous case in 2010 with Oscar Ptorius. The one with like no

Yes. Yes. That's so a judge decides like your Yeah. And so, it was a criminal case also. very very um beautiful lady that was one of our top models in my country, blonde, gorgeous um girl that he ended up like um shooting thinking it was an intruder. So he says

I'm not going to talk about what I believe. I but that's a story for another day. But obviously got a 5-year um imprisonment, but that that was it

and that obviously gave gave shock waves. Our law system is so different there. Whereas I like both. I like both. I like the whole trial and jury and there because I feel like you're allowing people rather than one person to decide someone's faith,

right? But at the same time, what if they can be very not okay and very biased. You know, we've seen a lot of bias cases. OJ Simpson, all the well many different stuff. You know what I'm saying? But

I just had to share that. So would you go to undergrad? Where did you go undergrad? I went to ASU. I'm hoping to be a double alum, too. So,

you want to try and do law school yet? Yeah. Yep. I love, you know, I've I've lived in all different kinds of states. I've I've lived here, Kansas, DC, Washington, Oregon. I've lived everywhere.

I'm the same way. Yeah. And I and I enjoy that. It was one of the great things about our country is that we can we can go to all these different places. But, um, Arizona really has my heart. I have invested so much time and energy into this community that I I really just want to stay here and continue to do that. And there's so much potential with everything. Like every time I come here, like I'll spend a few weeks, a months here. It's uh it's the most unique community. I've traveled like 48 40 No, no, no. Like 45 states.

Oh, wow. And Yeah. But I've only lived in like I think seven or eight cuz I live I did an internship in New York. Wall Street.

Oh, nice. Very nice. Love New York. I love New York. I wish I could live there, honestly. I really do.

Yeah. It's just But it's just too much for me. Too many people. Yeah. No, the reason I liked it, first of all, I growing up, I used to watch Gossip Girl. I don't know if you familiar with it.

I never I've actually never seen it. As girly as I am, I've never seen that show.

I can't believe I told you that. Okay. But no, no, I just ordered it. So, even when I proposed to my wife, it was like um Oh, very cute.

It was in New York. It was the Empire State Building kind of thing as well. Very cute.

But from being so traveled and all that, every time I come to Arizona, like even the the gentleman I brought down here is one was one of the biggest wholesalers as well. the community, everyone is willing to be able to express, learn, and grow with each other, which I've never experienced in any single state.

Yes. So, I don't blame you when you say you want to stay in ASU, you want to, you know, you become like double alumni and all that, but it's just there's a unique community here.

Yeah. And every and everyone's the same way. We all want to invest in each other. um even the other small business owners that I've come in contact with so far my journey as pro with pro with pro parallegal a um I mean everyone's just so uplifting and encouraging and I really do enjoy that and like you said you don't really find that in many other places.

And then what's your um in terms of social media like what's the trajectory in terms of like marketing and branding cuz this is a very the nice thing is that it's not a saturated like it's so like new cuz people aren't even aware of that. It's almost like it's like a film of damnation like I'm I can't do anything. I'm screwed. Like what's your plan regarding that too?

Oh my gosh, I don't have a plan. As a millennial, you'd think I would be better with social media, but there's just something about it that I just can't I just I'm not a big poster. I like a what do they call it? Like a ghost post and ghost. I just kind of, you know,

last post 1 of January 2016. Yeah. No, but thankfully I have I have some really good people and a good team behind that. They're that are really trying to give me the the best ideas and help me sit down and record stuff. So, I really appreciate that, too.

Mhm. Okay. And so if you're going to become if you're going to go to law school and end up like um taking to the next step, what's your your goal and um trying to incorporate now with your legal background already that you currently have? How you going to bring the two together?

I think again like I said earlier, just really honing in on the gun right advocacy. A lot of like we've talked about was people are really pushing for reform. I don't believe in reform. I don't believe reform is necessary. Um, and so I really want to use my law degree to be able to kind of like stand up for what I believe in and what I think the Constitution and how I interpret it. Um, as well as millions of other people the way they interpret it.

Have you applied already? I have not. I I took the ELSAT in August actually. So, uh, soon I have everything ready to go. I just need to take the test.

That's exciting. Yeah, I'm really excited. It's been a long time coming. I've been doing this for 10 years.

Wow. Yeah. And obviously it's it's a it's a practice. We were doing this in Minnesota before then right?

No, no, I've always done it here. Well, yeah. I've always I would say I've always done it in Arizona.

But you opened your own firm. Yes. Recently. Okay. So that's why when you're telling all those stories, I was previously when you were in

at the US attorney's office or in DC. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a combined experience of being a parallegal from across country.

And I noticed I was telling my dad this actually the other day. I think there are certain professions that um I don't think people should ever worry about AI and being an attorney is one of them. I personally

Yes. Can you add on that too? No, I you know I have I've tried uh we've I've experimented with with my friends who are lawyers already and just asking chat GBT question certain questions and they're always just like that's not it and then we'd go back to legal research and and it's not right. So it's it's chatb is good I think at like

summarizing. Yes. Yes. But definitely don't rely on it because laws change constantly and and chhat GBT is a good researcher but it's not a good legal researcher which are which are two totally different things. Legal research is like one of the top things taught in law school and Chhat GBT has not gone to law school never will. So it there's just no way can and do legal research like we can. And also the critical thinking you know thinking on top of your head trying to like um know your facts so that you can try and like um I don't articulate it to try and like you know get the best case scenario cuz it can give you everything in very in an automated way but like like yes AI can only take you so far but like you do need an actual person to represent you on your behalf. You know,

law is a chess game and you really need to be two steps ahead of your opponent in order to win. And Chachbt just it can't guess one, what your opponent is going to do and two, how you should be able to structure your argument around it.

Okay. And is your um right now it's not a nonprofit, it's an actual practicing thing. So customers end up like is it like a retainer kind of thing? How does that work?

It's a flat fee. Um I just I charge everyone the same rate no matter what. Um it's a flat fee and then yeah I as soon as as soon as we fill out the agreement I'll get to work and then within 90 to 120 days your Chevy ranks back.

I'm glad that's one thing I noticed as well when people give the time frame. It's like saying within other words it can come earlier but you don't want people just calling non-stop because oh my gosh it can

Yes. When I used to work for private practice law firms that clients would call a lot and it is a lot and I do enjoy talking with them because it's not something lawyers typically do. That's another reason why you should hire a parallegal is lawyers usually pawn off the calls to the parallegals. So you might as well just work with me anyways.

I was about to say cuz parallegals actually know you know know it in depth. It's not like one of those cuz think about parallegals um end up in a firm being a firm they actually go back to the law lawyers and please correct me if I'm wrong. you know it way better than I do. But like they do the research, they do like the in-depth and analysis and all that kind of stuff, finding it out and then going to go let the lawyer know by they're the lawyers check GBT pretty much.

Yeah. I would never I would never work in private practice again because of the work the amount of work that I do compared to what the attorney does. And I and I don't mean to discredit attorneys at all. I think attorneys are great. I love all my friends who are attorneys. Um but we just do a lot of work as a parallegal for for very low pay. So attorneys are charging clients, you know, four, I would say $3 to $500 an hour. They're charging parallegals at 125 an hour. Parallegals are the one doing all the work by pay for the attorney.

And have you ever thought about trying to even go the path after you get your your law degree like business attorney, branding attorney, all these different stuff? Or you just so passionate about this gun rights?

I really love criminal justice. It is so fascinating. uh my time at the US Attorney's Office, you know, I get to work at 8 and by 4:00 I just like I couldn't believe that it was 4:00 because I'm just having so much fun. It is fascinating to read about all of these different crimes that people commit, how defense councils working in on their end, meeting with the criminals, meeting with, you know, our agents, which I love and adore. Um it's just such a fascinating aspect of our society that I don't think people get to really delve into. But

what's the best part of your job at proper label? When I was working for the federal government,

both. Oh, um I think working for the federal government is working with the agents and hearing about the things that they get to do and what they're investigating and how their mind is operating as the investigation is ongoing. I think that part was really cool. It's very criminal mindsesque, if you will. Uh at Proare Parallegal A, I just love that I get to meet different people within my community. So before it was working mostly with agents and with prosecutors, but now I actually get to work with individuals who have already committed the crime and kind of help them like restore that life now that the prosecution is over.

And I think one thing you get to realize is that they they're actual human beings and whether it was a mistake or whether they did something like people just want a second chance. And I think

um what you provide is hope and I think it's such an important thing knowing that hey listen

you can go practice and gain the amount of guns you want to get but more importantly also you can vote you can do all these different stuff. I think hope is such an important thing cuz we just end up like giving people like an you know a level of a damnation where like you can't progress you're just stuck in a certain thing and I think hope is such an important thing. E wouldn't you agree? No, I agree. And and you know, I I have met so many individuals who have uh committed crimes, who regret it, and who are trying to do the best they possibly can to provide food on the table, to to start a family, to start their own businesses. And again, I don't think that one mistake should limit them from being able to do those things.

I couldn't agree more. But what uh for somebody out there that may be watching this, let's say now they're they're out of jail. Um, and I know you said like be an outstanding citizen, doing the best part you can do. What advice would you give somebody right now that's just had their life shattered, they can't even get a job. What's the first step you think they can do right now to try and get their life back in order?

I think just just have faith. We have so many misconceptions about the judicial system and I get it. A judicial the judicial wow I cannot talk today. The judicial system just convicted them, sent them to prison. And I totally get it. Makes them have, you know, some serious doubts about whether or not it's there to actually help them. But, um, I really just want them to have hope that it does and that this avenue gives them that hope that they are going to need and they should definitely use if if they can, um, to restart their life. One past mistake does not define the rest of your life. Um, we all make mistakes.

They might think that their mistake because it landed them in prison is more serious, but I would tend to disagree. There's people that do things all the time and they're never convicted. So, um yeah, just have faith.

I know you spoke about DEI. Can speeding fines prevent people from like voting and stuff?

Speeding fines? No. No. Uh traffic violations are are completely separate. That's interesting. But yeah. No. No. No. Are you sure? Or maybe it's just a different state of Florida cuz I know Florida people that had speeding fines had to pay off the fines that they had before they could vote. There was really I could be wrong cuz I I remember the case was it 2020 Michael Bloomberg I think went down to Florida and they were just trying to uh help everyone like pay off their fines that they could try and vote cuz they couldn't vote. Maybe it could be I could be wrong. Please uh don't quote me on that or anywhere. But I think that was the situation. Um

well anything's possible. Uh I I wouldn't put it past me. anything's possible. But I that would be very surprising to me.

Yeah. I like I said, I'm not 100% sure on that. I just I just remember like them just spending uh millions of dollars to try and like pay people's fines off. I don't know cuz I'm like I've never ever I don't even hear that. And maybe I was just easedropping it. I It could be 100% inaccurate, but I'll check it after the podcast.

Yeah, I will too. That's very That's very interesting. I hope. Okay. Thank you.

Do we get confirmation that's true? Wow. Yeah. Florida is different. Yeah. Well, altogether Florida is different, but yeah. So, that's why I specialize in the c certain states that I do.

Did it. Wow. It says states like Alabama, but Arizona's on here, too. So, it says states like Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, and Tennessee specific specifically require payments of all fines and fees.

Fines and fees of what though? Court fines and fees. It just says if you have felony conviction, paying fines, fees, costs, and restitution.

Yes. So that that's different than traffic. Yeah, that is a part of the the the requirements to to have your rights restored is that all your restitution and court fees have to be paid.

Okay. All right. Maybe that that that's what the thing was. Yeah, I think that's probably what it that makes much more sense. Traffic fines are different.

So what are court fines or court fees? What are those? Um they're court ordered usually when you're sentenced of the fees that you have to pay. We like at the US attorney's office at the federal level, we'll have like a victim's fee. This helps us pre be able to provide victims where certain services like flying them to here like if they're not from the states, we need to fly them here. Um those kinds of things or court fees or like if you file something, you never paid it. Those types of situations. Or if you have like I don't know there's fees associated with sentences too. So if you serve like 10 years you might be sentenced to like to pay restitution of like five grand. I don't know it just depends. Also depends on your crime too.

So no 10 years of parallegal you definitely you know I've noticed even with my dad had a parallegal as well. You end up just it becomes second nature in just like even resolving stuff super quickly because the amount of stuff that are just given to you. I've seen files dropped off on a desk. I've seen so many different stuff and and that was even like pre-I summarize. That was cuz

we can't use AI in court either. So, yeah, I love that. Um, but it's pretty much gosh, I hate to say cut and dry, but once you like once you see one of a certain type of case like manslaughter or murder or seconddegree rape or whatever it is, um, you kind of understand like, okay, this is what I in like discovery and stuff. This is what I should be asking for. It's kind of and you have such a great relationship too with the federal public defender's office that you just, you know, you know exactly what is what you need to get from the other side and to kind of get this case going. So, it's great. And I also worked with attorneys who loved teaching. They were teaching me all the time. I was constantly going to court with them, constantly trying to learn. I asked all the time why they're doing certain things and why they don't do others. Like it was just such a great learning experience and I'm so thankful

for the attorneys I got to work with. That's amazing. And with uh you provide obviously like consulting in person which makes it super right. Do they come to the office or is it like over the phone or how does

we do everything over the phone or over Zoom? Oh, okay. Yeah. You don't provide the inerson consulting?

Um, no I don't. Just because I'm doing it, it's not brick and mortar yet. So once I get to that place, I will. But at this point, everything's over the phone. And and really we're just going over questions to make sure you're eligible. That's really all we have to do. Okay.

Yeah. So you don't have to come in. Um, a lot of times too, my clients are just super busy. They're they're bluecollar workers. Um, and so they just don't have the time to come up to where I'm at in Cape Creek to do it. So,

and we we had attended a mastermind here. One of the owners, Jason, um he holds a mastermind here cuz because I was doing podcasts here, but everyone inside they're 90% of a blue collar and like even coming to this thing, they have to put in their schedule because they're constantly always working, you know, it's such a demanding kind of thing. Uh although I'm a little different. I'm one of those like I'm an inerson person. I've Yeah. I've never I've never ever done a podcast over Zoom. I've had people even in England that I reached out to. I had one guy from England that actually came to Vegas from like the Grand Cardone and 10X conference. I'm like, perfect. Let's go sit down. I have a nice um Airbnb that we rented out in Vegas and we had like a nice view of the waterfalls and stuff like that. I was like, you know what, you here and I'm the same way like I come to a Miami blah blah blah cuz it's

just for me um I don't know. I I I zone out over Zoom and stuff really. I don't mind it. I don't mind it. I wasn't a big proponent of like Zoom meetings during CO and stuff. Um I understand the necessity for it, but I I'm kind of like you. I like in person, but I'm trying to cater towards the blue collar workers who are about 90% of my clientele base. So, uh I'm just trying to help them get all the information I can from them. They'll hang up on the phone and I just finish up everything that I need to get it over to the court.

And I think that's what people need to understand is the fact that uh you trying to see if you can get pre-qualified or if it actually would work and make sense for you in your scenario as well cuz that's why it's one of those things where there's no need for you to drive 2 three hours if it was just like a few questions like 30 minutes or an hour over Zoom.

So it's convenience. So that's beauty of technology is convenience you know. So yeah and I think in that situation I would do the same thing. I was just saying like gosh I sometimes I don't know I just I get a little embarrassed. I'm like can I just see you in person? I committed this crime. I may have taken I don't know bread from like I don't know uh the grocery store and I prefer just saying in front of you. I don't know. You just feel like you're recorded. I don't know. That's just personally me.

My mom is always just like you. Should you be meeting with felons in person? And I'm like, "No, they're regular people, mom. They're they're totally fine. I feel safe with every person I've ever met. Um they're really and they're just the most thankful people and I love that. And again, blue collar workers who are probably cleaning your pool or building your roof or helping you, you know, change your tire off the side of the road. It's those type of people that I'm trying to help.

Blue collar workers are the heartbeat of America. Oh yes. Especially in this heat. Oh my gosh. I could not do what they do.

120° and like it's just do the same thing like every day and they do it with a smile on their face. You know what I'm saying? So it's about like just people that just embrace it, you know? So

yeah. I know they everyone deserves a voice to be heard and and I think sometimes things can be a little unfair where it can be a little harsher. Circumstances are obviously a little bit more different but the fact that people um there's people representing and allowing and you know veteran uh started and owned is such a big thing cuz veterans do so much as well like in just standing in the front lines and just providing whether it be service or combat doesn't matter you're still serving your country. So

yeah. Yeah, I agree with that. Awesome stuff. um what other um things you might you want to share and talk about as well as we conclude because I only have like two three more questions.

I I think we've I think we've got it all. You know, I just really want to emphasize that this is available to anyone convicted of a felony in this state. And I really truly do hope that they get the the the excuse me, I really truly hope that they get what they need. Um because like I said, you know, one one mistake should not define your entire future.

I love that so much. Um, so yeah, we have Mrs. Harvey Spectre here as well, so I hope you prepared.

What was Megan Markle's name? I forgot her name. I know Mike Ross and uh Oh my gosh. Rachel. Yes, Rachel. Rachel Zane.

So yeah. No, no, I'm grateful. These are my favorite uh kinds of podcasts where it's just straight conversation, right? It's not like a rehearsed like where do you see yourself in? No, I love conversations and and I'm grateful you came in the studio as well. If um I always ask people this as especially as we approach to conclude as well because it's called the co-winning insights you need today to seize the world tomorrow. Um if you were to define just the term winning what does it mean for Danielle?

Oh gosh that's a great question. I think winning is just anytime that I am happy. I want that's one of the biggest reasons why I started my own business was because I just wanted to be happy and I wasn't finding that um you know busting my butt day in and day out for somebody else. I really wanted to work for myself and work with the vision that I have and ever since I've started I've been happy. I've interviewed over 90 people even though I only have 40 episodes and that was my definition as well. And so that's the best answer that I've gotten cuz and I'm not saying the answer that uh they gave great everyone has given great answers. Everyone has kind of like elaborated like and gave like their um their mantra and their motto there for life and all that. But I think like at the end of the day like with so much of um heartache, sadness, depression that we all like experienced, like if you

wake up every single day and you're like, "Listen, I'm making a difference in this world.

I'm interviewing an amazing parallegal right now who's changing the world on my like time that I decided to have." That is winning.

Thank you so much, Danielle. If you could let our viewers know where they could get a hold of you, website, if you have like a a office number or whatever, if you can let them know where to get a hold of you as well, if they want to try and like reach out and try and find out a bit more about what you do.

Yeah, absolutely. If you are a felon trying to restore your civil rights and your firearm rights, please reach out to me at proparilaz on social media. You can also go to prop parillegalaz.com.

Uh the link will also be in the description section for both and all our platforms as well. So if um you want to know what she said, it's going to be right in the description section to just click the link below as well. The coat winning insights you need today to seize the world tomorrow. The amazing Danielle came in the studio. Thank you very much.

Thank you so much for having me.

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "REDEMPTION THROUGH LAW: THE VETERAN FIGHTING FOR SECOND CHANCES || DANIELLE SKRANAK || EPISODE 063"?

Danielle Skranak (Guest), Dakota (Host), Unknown Host (Code To Winning) (Host).

What is "REDEMPTION THROUGH LAW: THE VETERAN FIGHTING FOR SECOND CHANCES || DANIELLE SKRANAK || EPISODE 063" about?

The focus of the discussion centers on the process of restoring civil liberties to convicted felons, specifically in Arizona, where a recent law allows individuals with a single felony conviction to have their voting, office-running, and certain other rights restored automatically, though gun rights require a separate petition. The conversation highlights the complexities involving different…

What is mentioned in this Code To Winning episode?

63 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including U.S. Attorney’s Office, civil liberties, restitution, court fees, 48th president, 48th state. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "REDEMPTION THROUGH LAW: THE VETERAN FIGHTING FOR SECOND CHANCES || DANIELLE SKRANAK || EPISODE 063"?

The episode runs 45 min; the transcript is about 9,776 words in 150 timestamped sections.

More from Code To Winning

About this transcript: the episode's spoken words as captioned on YouTube, split into timestamped sections. Reclip.Me locates every person, work and idea in the text, keeps the time it is first named, and quotes the words around it verbatim. Last updated January 24, 2026.