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100+ Human Remains Found in Pennsylvania Home

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "100+ Human Remains Found in Pennsylvania Home", an episode of Crime Weekly published January 14, 2026 (33 min, about 6,605 words). It mentions 7 people, works and ideas, including Jonathan Gerlock, Mount Mariah Cemetery, Skulls Unlimited, Dererick Levasser, Stephanie Harlo.

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Mount Mariah Cemetery, Dererick Levasser, Jonathan Gerlock, Lancaster City Police
  2. – 10:00: Jonathan Gerlock
  3. – 15:00: Skulls Unlimited
  4. – 20:00: Mount Mariah Cemetery, Skulls Unlimited
  5. – 25:00: Grow Therapy
  6. – 30:00: Jonathan Gerlock, Mount Mariah Cemetery

Notable quotes from "100+ Human Remains Found in Pennsylvania Home"

  • Hey everyone, welcome back to Crime Weekly News. I'm Dererick Levasser and I'm Stephanie Harlo.
    about Dererick Levasser · at
  • Into mausoleums and underground burial vaults and historic cemeteries, most notably Mount Mariah Cemetery over the course of several months, removing human remains, including skulls, long bones, mummified parts, and entire skeletons.
    about Mount Mariah Cemetery · at
  • Same time that the Lerner County mausoleum was robbed in November. and that Jonathan Gerlock had also been charged with retail thefts around this time in East Earl Township.…
    about Jonathan Gerlock · at
  • Necessarily have to be human remains. A lot of it's animal remains. I was just looking up a website, Skulls Unlimited, where you can go on there and you can purchase from what…
    about Skulls Unlimited · at

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Full transcript with timestamps

Hey everyone, welcome back to Crime Weekly News. I'm Dererick Levasser and I'm Stephanie Harlo.

And before we dive into this week's episode, just a quick shout out to my brother Matt who is being promoted to lieutenant today for his his fire department. And I'm not going to say what fire department, but shout out to my brother. Proud of him.

Congratulations, Matt. Shout out, Matt. Good job, buddy. Keep it up. Do the work that I'm just talking about now. I feel so when when he gets promoted like that, I'm like, man, where would I be right now?

Where would you be right now? Yeah. Like, what what what rank would I be at, you know?

Oh, if he was stayed on the force. Mhm. Does make me wonder. I mean, me and my brother have always competed. So, he has now officially gotten higher ranking than me because I I retired as a sergeant.

Are you rethinking our life together and wishing you taken a different God? No. I think about my salary that I was getting as a police officer. No. Hard no.

All sad. No, I'm good. Shout out, Matt. I'm thinking about you from here, buddy, from the distance.

He's saying you may be more broke than him, but you have a higher rank. Yes. Yes. Yes. Exactly. You're doing You're doing well, man. I'm proud of you. Okay, so we're going to talk about something today that's different than anything we've ever talked about before. And when we were getting ready to record, Stephanie was like, "There's a market for this." So, uh, we're going to discuss it because there definitely is clearly by this guy's actions. So, for anybody who does not know, 34year-old Jonathan Gerlac of Ephroda, Pennsylvania is alleged to have systematically broken into mausoleums and underground burial vaults and historic cemeteries, most notably Mount Mariah Cemetery over the course of several months, removing human remains, including skulls, long bones, mummified parts, and entire skeletons.

He is now facing hundreds of criminal charges related to grave robbing, abuse of corpses, theft, desecration, and related offenses. And this is something that's horrific on multiple fronts. First thing you think about is that these are real people.

Yeah. These are real people that he's digging up. And you think about all their loved ones out there who are now finding out that someone who was very important to them that just wasn't a skeleton has now been disrespected in this manner. and God knows what has been done to their skeletal remains after the fact.

Well, so that's kind of where I was I was kind of thinking of it when this the news first broke. They didn't say what his motive was. They were just like, hey, this guy's got like a hundred corpses in his house. And I was thinking, is this some weird sex thing? Right? Cuz whenever you hear some whenever you hear something like this, you didn't.

Nope. Didn't What's wrong with me? Because I think I think their skeletal remains. So, I think sexual in nature is less likely. And I'm not trying to be too graphic here,

but it would be something weird. Something that's like this guy is not normal. And now you come to find, well, he's selling them online. And then, you know, at least you're like, oh, few.

It's not something some weird sex thing, but there's a market for selling human remains and skeletal remains online. And like like I like you had mentioned in the intro, this is

um it seems he kind of focused on historical cemeteries. So maybe even these people don't have relatives living still. Who knows? But there must be come to find out cuz we got documents released. There is a market for this online I guess. I don't really exactly know why. And hopefully

without a doubt. Yeah. Hopefully you can shine some light on that. Big money too by the way.

Big money. So we'll go through it and then we can talk about that a little bit because I am very curious. So, according to the court documents and police, Gerlock's grave thefts at Mount Mariah Cemetery and other local cemeteries, they began around early November, he was targeting mausoleiums and underground vaults. He was actually like propelling himself into these vaults with like ropes and carabiners and very elaborate sort of uh getups here to get into these vaults and and mausoleiums. Uh, a tip to the Lancaster City Police Crime Watch page.

actually connected Jonathan Garlock to a Lern County mausoleum theft. Reportedly, someone saw a partially decomposed corpse hanging in his basement during that period. So, it wasn't the person who called in the tip, it was somebody else. And this tip came in on December 23rd. But the tipster said that the the person that they knew saw the skeleton hanging in Gerlock's basement around the same time that the Lerner County mausoleum was robbed in November. and that Jonathan Gerlock had also been charged with retail thefts around this time in East Earl Township. And the stolen items from these retail thefts, which ended up being a local hardware store, include things like a headlamp, gloves, a metal cutting wheel. So, yeah, stuff I guess you would need if you were a grave a grave robber. And if Jonathan Gerlock is making all this money selling human remains online, I'm not sure why he needs to steal these things. But

maybe he wanted to steal them. So, it wasn't as obvious that he had purchased them and it wouldn't be connected. Maybe it was more of a I don't want to be connected to these items if I'm caught less than I can I can't afford these items. Now, that tip also directed law enforcement to Jonathan Gerlock's uh Instagram account, and they found that he followed other accounts which had a lot to do with taxiderermy, skeleton collecting, sales of skeletons, and other oddities. And apparently, Jonathan Gerlock had disappeared for a few days in November. And the tipster said that they believed he'd been in Chicago selling a human skull. And then law enforcement found a Facebook group called human bones and skull selling group where someone thanked Jonathan Gerlock for a human skin bag. So it's like a picture of this person holding a skull and they're like thank you so much Jonathan Gerlock because in this human

skin bag that you sold me the this amazing skull was in there and I'm like what the hell is a human skin bag? And then law enforcement also found that Jonathan Gerlock's Cash App profile picture was someone holding what appeared to be a human skull. So it just it gets worse and worse. It's very very strange. They actually went and they sort of connected Jonathan Gerlock because they were going through the late November and December patterns of broken in mausoleiums, disturbed vaults, remains missing, and they started tracking license plates, cell phone data, and surveillance to identify the thief. And then on January 6th, 2026, Jonathan Gerlac was arrested at Mountain Ry Cemetery after investigators spotted him with a burlap sack filled with mummified remains of human bones and also the human bones of small children.

Um, so that was kind of a big thing when this press conference broke. The police officer who was talking, he was like, "This is going to be really hard because some of these human remains did belong to children." So then on the 7th of January, authorities executed a search warrant um at Gerlock's home. They found 100 plus sets of human remains and they also interviewed his fiance and then she told them about his storage unit and he wouldn't let them search the storage unit. So at first they were like, "Hey, we heard you have a storage unit and um can we search there?" He would not give them consent to search there. He said, "Hey, there's nothing that you would care about in there. I just have personal items."

[snorts] He's like, "I know you all already found a bunch of stuff in my home, but I'm going to need you to trust me that there are no human remains in the storage unit. It's just personal items.

Some blankets and some foldup chairs. Nothing crazy." So, obviously, they had to, you know, do some things to to be able to search there. They

Let me guess, it wasn't just blankets and foldup chairs. It wasn't just personal. I mean, unless human remains count as personal items.

Oh, okay. But they basically I don't know if they could get a warrant just on their suspicion that there was stuff in there. So, they actually sent a cadaavver dog to the storage unit. The dog then indicated there was the smell of human remains. Then they got the search warrant. They executed it on January 8th and from that locker, detectives retrieved eight human corpses plus miscellaneous body parts, ashes, and older jewelry believed to have been removed from graves. So basically the things these corpses had with them, their personal items, he was taking those things as well.

And by the way, real quickly, you would easily be able to get a search warrant without the cadaavver dog hit. It does help. It strengthens quicker. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, but just having everything you found in his home, if that storage unit is rented to him, you have probable cause and then some at that point to go to a judge and say, "Hey, listen. We found all of this in his home. This is a storage unit belonging to him. We have reason to believe that he's storing these items everywhere." And and and no judge is not going to sign off on that.

Especially with Yeah. Especially after everything they found in his home. It's game over. It's game over with a cadaavver dog. It's just like a home run. Now, if you look at a picture of Jonathan Gerlock, I'm not trying to profile anyone here, but he looks like the kind of guy who would be robbing graves and carabining down into these these mausoleiums. You know, he he gives me the look of somebody who was like, you know, I really wanted to be in a heavy metal rock band and be famous, but that didn't work out, so I'm going to steal human body parts out of graves and sell them online. be mad at me if you want, but as soon as I saw his picture, I was like, "Yeah, actually that checks out." You know, he doesn't look like a tax accountant. He looks like somebody who might have been like, you know, willing to do stuff. Apparently, there was uh a lot of stuff going on at his house. Like, it's not just human body

parts sort of just hidden or scattered randomly. They were found in various states. Uh some of them were hanging, some of them were pieced together. He had shelves with just skulls on them. It looked maybe like it was sort of his storage area, right? If he's selling these things online, he's got his basement where he's arranging and organizing everything and probably taking pictures and posting on these Facebook groups where I I it's it's absolutely insane that Facebook has such crazy policies for like true crime and stuff, right? uh to the point where you can't even really say murdered on on Facebook and other platforms like that.

But groups that are focused on selling human body parts, totally okay for Facebook. Totally okay. That's that's a different story. That's not, you know, true crime. It's Facebook pages that are focused on selling human body parts. Absolutely fine. I don't know how that ended up being a thing that was allowed, but yeah, it's pretty crazy. At this point, we know that he's been charged with 100 counts each of abuse of a corpse, receiving stolen property, along with multiple counts of desecrating a public monument, desecrating a venerated object, desecrating a historical burial place burglary trespassing theft.

He's jailed on a $1 million bond. We don't really know if he's got a lawyer right now because no lawyer was listed in court records, but I'm not sure.

I'm a public defender regardless. What is he What is he going to do? Like plead not guilty? I I don't know what's I don't know what his plan is here. At this point, it's kind of just like, okay, what's my punishment? You caught me literally red-handed. You caught me at the cemetery. I got human remains in my house. I got him in my storage unit. Apparently, they when they arrested him and went back to his car, there was some human remains in there. I don't know. Let's let's talk about what could possibly in be in store for Jonathan Garlock and why he would even think that robbing these graves and stealing these human remains would be profitable for him because like Dererick said, there's a market for this. I'm not aware of it. But let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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looking up a website, Skulls Unlimited, where you can go on there and you can purchase uh from what I can see, mostly animal skulls. There's not really a lot of human uh skeletal remains, although I do

Skulls Unlimited. Skulls Unlimited. Yeah, Skulls Unlimited. And you can you can search replica or real skulls. And just on their main page here, I'm seeing that they have a real research quality human foot that's available as well. Let me check the price real quick. The price for this bad boy. Oh, there's no price. It's a quote. You gota you gota you got to inquire to find out. But I was also looking up a an article from The Economist from 2023 and their quotes about human remain prices are $640 for a head, roughly $430 for an arm, and for a torso, for a torso, it's approximately $2,000.

While a hand would be around 300 bucks. Plus, if you want a full leg with the foot, that would be 1,600. So,

yeah, I found some I found some similar numbers. Individual bones, 50 to 300. Skulls 1,000 to 5,000 plus. Complete skeletons 5,000 to 15,000. And then infant or child remains often go for much higher prices, which is that's especially so like I know you're like I don't want to judge people that do this, but like infant bones or skeletons, what kind of collection do you have that that would be like something you'd spend a whole lot of money on? What kind of what kind of life are you living here?

You know, just to put it back on me, I like to collect firearms. And some people would say that's ridiculous. You know, I I I don't shoot a ton anymore, but I like to collect firearms. So, I'm not going to judge people. So there are people out there doing it for the, you know, for their own passions and their own reasons. And we may not necessarily agree with it, but I think the problem is not the collection of the bones. It's how they're obtained, right? If you're on the black market buying these things from people who like this guy are doing this, that's a problem. But if you're curating them through, you know, ethical sources, I can't judge you too much. I can't I can't judge you. It's not my thing. I mean, I'm not just not I'm just not sure what kind of how many ethical avenues there would be for such a thing, right? Cuz these are human remains.

Well, there's usually a story with it. That's part of the thing. I get it. Associated with it, how they obtain those bones.

So, from what I've seen, yes, a lot of people do this for like historical reasons and like I get that, you know, I have a labbotomy set that was used in a real morg in New York City back in the day.

I don't think it's weird. It would be weird if I had the skull that went along with the labbotomy.

I I I like to collect historic I like to collect historical things. I have love letters that were sent during like World War II that I pick up and I I do, you know, eBay bids and stuff for these things. I also have a key from the Chicago World's Fair that I'm very proud of. But anyway, I would never feel comfortable having somebody's human remains in my presence because I'm a little bit like superstitious in that way where I'm like this person should be laid to rest. Is there their ghost? And you should understand that too cuz you're afraid of ghosts. Is their ghost or their spirit attached to this and I'm part of what disturbed their peace and now they're going to haunt me? And it's like, yeah, okay. Sometimes you'll get stuff like this, like human bones, from I guess legitimate reasons like um you know,

Skulls Unlimited. Yes, Skulls Unlimited, things like that. And like I said, this guy was apparently kind of a part of like social media groups, from what I can tell, these social media platforms, they're these private groups on Facebook, and they've been a major hub. I looked it up. So these groups are usually invite only. They use very coded language. Um, they trade bones via private messages after the posts are made. They're frequently shut down and then recreated under new names. But I mean, this person who kind of pointed everybody to Jonathan Garlock by posting it and saying, "Thanks so much for this this human flesh bag where I found this great skull." Uh, that didn't seem to be a very private message. So maybe they're getting a little bit

brazen, I guess, lax and brazen because law enforcement has repeatedly found grave robbers and traffickers communicating this way and they're not getting their their inventory in a legitimate way. And I I guess like yeah, now that I'm looking into it, people collect these things for like Victorian death aesthetics. I get it. And what we also have to understand is I believe that Jonathan Garlock was specifically going to Mount Mariah Cemetery and cemeteries like it because they're historical cemeteries.

There's a story behind it. He's documenting what it says on the grave. Yeah. Um Mount Mariah has been that was established in 1855. So yeah, you're going to you're if you're kind of in that market and people want bones from the 1800s, this is where you would go. And I want to make sure if for anybody who's not picking up on this, but I I I hope everybody is. We're making a clear distinction between deciding to collect these bones, like obviously Stephanie's a little weirded out by it. I'm kind of indifferent. We're not talking about that here with Gerlock. Gerlock was stealing these bones from places that he did not have the right to be. There's a very big distinction there.

You bought them from him knowing he had robbed a you're part of the problem. I do have a problem.

I agree. Wholeheartedly. I agree. But we're not I I just want to make sure that we're being clear there where we're not we're not crossing over the two things.

We're not condemning people who do it. I But you know, if I guess if your bones were gotten in a

an okay manner and the family was okay with it or or you maybe it just was a collection from a museum that you happened to bid on and you don't know where they came from.

Sometimes labs do it as well. Like I just want to make sure we're not conflating the two. But yeah, sometimes you can actually obtain a skeletal remain from a a lab or research facility after the they're no longer using it. I don't know how that process works, but but I do know that's

weedded out by it. Yeah. I mean, listen, there's a lot of things that I'm weirded out by that people do and that I that I judge them for and I'm sure they're judging me for other things. There's probably people who are judging us because we're out here every week on these podcasts exposing ourselves to people who

hate us, you know, like have they they want to say bad things about I mean, it's it's to each their own, right? But like this right here, because there's a market for it, that's why this guy's doing it, right? He knows the money he can make. And if we just do a quick math on it, he's got over a hundred, you said skeletal remains.

Yeah. Over 100. Yeah. Over a hundred at, let's just call it $1,000 a pop right there. You know, he's looking at 100 grand.

I mean, he's got full skeletons. So apparently you can get 10 to $15,000 for that.

Yes. Yes. Especially if it's a older historic set of remains that has some significance to it.

Yeah. No, it's crazy. I think I read that he had um gone into a grave of somebody who died in like 1940s. So uh yeah, I I think he probably is definitely looking for specific time periods where he's going to. But yeah, let's go to a break really quick and I want to come back and talk about what kind of time he might be looking at, what kind of punishment he might be looking at. Um, I'm not sure forever for I'm not Yeah, I'm not sure if he wants to I'm not sure if he's want going to want to take it to trial, but let's talk about that. We'll be right back.

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He'll plead not guilty at the arraignment. For sure. Yeah. 100%. 100%. Everybody does. And you should you should you should always plead not guilty at first.

Y I mean, yeah, I think that his punishment will be pretty severe simply based on the volume of charges, the volume of human remains he had rather than, you know, this was just a oneoff kind of thing. Yep.

We've got these kinds of charges. They're going to be charged per victim or per set of human remains. Uh so under Pennsylvania law, abuse of a corpse, typically a felony, up to seven years per count. And yeah, yeah, he's in trouble.

Uh desecration of a burial place, often a felony, up to seven years per count. Burglary, uh felony up to 10 years per count. theft, receiving stolen property, felony, misdemeanor, depending on the value, ranges from one to seven years per count. Now, we've got Jonathan Gerlock. He's reportedly facing hundreds of counts tied to multiple graves, multiple remains, multiple incidents, multiple locations. And even if some of these charges are merged or some are dismissed or they have some running concurrently, prosecutors can still argue for consecutive sentencing on these key counts. And

I think you have to. Yeah. I mean, it's not all one bulk thing. Will he get some type of deal where they're going to combine some of it? Of course.

Yeah. If he especially if he gives up names of other people in the industry and he

I think he's looking probably just guessing. Probably looking at 30 years somewhere around there. I don't think he'll do life in prison for this, but it's possible. It all depends on the judge. It all depends on

I guess this Mount Mariah cemetery is very important. I mean, think about how how terrible this really is. He didn't kill these people, but he's disrespecting every single one of them in death.

Yeah. every single one of them. And so, how do you go back and go, well, they weren't alive anymore, so it's not as severe. No, it's pretty significant because you said, you know, some of these bodies are are pretty old and so they may not have any immediate living relatives, but they probably have some distant relatives who may go there to visit their aunt or uncle or mother or father or, you know, grandmother, whatever it might be. I don't know. But to can you imagine right for a second that you have a loved one buried at one of these cemeteries, even if it wasn't someone you were directly connected to.

Let's say it's a great-grandfather, but your mother would always go there and visit that grave. And that was like a thing for her. And now you learn that your greatgrandfather was dug up, split into different pieces, and sent out throughout the entire world for profit.

I mean, I did. What are you going to be looking for? I saw in one of the articles that a woman said, "My my mother's buried in the cemetery." Like, it it could have been her. I'm not okay with this. So, I Yeah, I do think people are kind of up in arms. I will say,

Yeah. Do you think Are there going to be people out there that are like, "Oh, come on. All he did was steal some skeletons. 30 years or more than that is crazy. Like, killers don't get 30 years sometimes."

Well, you know the answer to that question. Yeah. Is he get that? Yes. You think there will be people?

Of course. We live in the We live in the most polarized society where no matter what you can I don't care what the crime is, somebody will find a reason why maybe it shouldn't be as bad. Remember I did that social media post where people there was one particular person who was mad because we were belittling BTK.

Oh yeah, right. Like that's the world we live in. Too mean we were too mean to to a serial killer.

I think the majority of people I'd like to believe will say yeah know this guy was the worst of the worst in many ways. And although he wasn't a serial killer, he was desecrating and disrespecting every single grave site and family member associated with that with that deant. So it's a significant crime and especially when you consider the motive financial in nature, right? It's that almost to me makes it worse.

I agree. [snorts] Yeah. Because you can't say you had a mental illness. You can't say like, "Oh, I was just really curious and I have this love of history and I wanted this stuff for myself." I think people would even look at that a little more forgivingly than

No, there's a lot of thought in this specifically to sell and make money. Rob a jewelry store and I'm not I'm not promoting that either, but you know what I mean? Like you know there's other ways there's other ways if you're going to be a criminal and there's a lot of thought that goes into this. The fact that he did this for so long and and was able to get away with it this many times in a in a public area like this.

Yeah. And this idiot leaves his can his energy drink at one of the graves he robbed. He and there was like cigarettes all over, you know. So, you're not just disrespecting these these people in these burial sites by going into them. You're like leaving your trash all over with your DNA on it. You don't freaking care. Needless to say, if he gets out within his lifetime, he's probably not going to

He's going to be close to his own grave. Yeah. He's not going to be living back here in Lancaster County cuz I don't think they want.

No. [clears throat] No. He's going to be old when he gets out. Uh I my guess without having any other information, no insight, 25 30 years, you know, that'll be the deal where it doesn't go to trial, you know, they're going to go for 50, he'll settle for 25, 30, and he's going to spend the majority the of the remaining part of his life in prison, which for what? For money?

Yeah. Was it worth it in the weirdest way? Yeah. You said he had a girlfriend, he has a house,

fianceé. Do you think she knew what he was doing? Had to. I mean, does she live? Does she live with him? You think she lived with him? Does she not know what's happening?

Yeah, I I would I would love to know more about that connection and what she was aware of and whether or not she was helping to facilitate some of this. That is going to be a question I'm sure law enforcement will be asking because if she's a co-conspirator, she could potentially be charged as well.

If she knew it was happening and she didn't help, could she still be considered a co-conspirator by just staying quiet?

No. No. No. No. if she's if just being ignorant to it is not a a criminal act. Like if you're not participating

Well, you're not ignorant to it if you see human bones hanging around the basement.

Well, I wonder when I say ignorant, I mean in the sense of like is he describing what he's doing to you in detail or is he just saying, "Yeah, I'm getting these from different places and and there's no way he's telling her he's buying them."

Yeah, he's buying them. But he's coming home covered in dirt. You know, that's ignorance, right? You know,

he's out late all night like Yeah. Yeah. You're you're trying to, you know, pretend like you don't know what's going on, but uh that's not going to that's not going to cut it. Is it enough to criminally charge her? Probably not.

Yeah. You know, something's, you know, something's going on. You know, your boyfriend, your fiance, he's into something weird, but maybe she was into that, too. So, I don't know. Yeah. So, that's pretty much all we have to talk about as far as this goes. Shout out to one of our listeners, by the way, who DM'd me with the with the post and uh the a clip to it. I wasn't aware of it and then I saw it and I was like, "Oo, that would make a great uh CWN."

As soon as they arrested him, I heard about it. And that's initially when I was like, "Is this a sex thing?" Because I remember one case where a man dug a woman out of a grave and he like kept her in his house and like held her and did things with her and and this happened for quite a long time. And then you know you have people like Jeffrey Dmer as we know that you know they have their their own things going with uh corpses. So I was worried that's what it was and it's not that. So we can be grateful for that. But it's it's still bad. Still really bad. So we'll keep an eye on it.

Really bad situation. If there's a major update or if somehow this guy walks oh god

we'll we'll definitely let you know. But that's going to do it for us. As always everyone stay safe out there. We're going to see you later this week with Amanda Knox part three. lot of interesting conversation around Amanda Knox. If you're not already listening or watching that series, you definitely need to check it out. If you're listening on audio, take a second, please make sure you're subscribed to the channel. Make sure you're subscribed on YouTube. And if you haven't already, we would greatly appreciate it if you took a minute to review what we're doing over here. It gets you in the algorithm. It gets more people hearing and seeing what we're doing, and it gets more eyes and ears on the cases we're covering. So, we'd greatly appreciate it. We will see you guys later this week. Until then, stay safe out there.

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What is discussed in "100+ Human Remains Found in Pennsylvania Home"?

In order: 0:00 Mount Mariah Cemetery, Dererick Levasser, Jonathan Gerlock, Lancaster City Police; 5:00 Jonathan Gerlock; 10:00 Skulls Unlimited; 15:00 Mount Mariah Cemetery, Skulls Unlimited; 20:00 Grow Therapy; 25:00 Jonathan Gerlock, Mount Mariah Cemetery.

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