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Preview: “Devil in Disguise: John Wayne Gacy”

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Preview: “Devil in Disguise: John Wayne Gacy”", an episode of Dateline NBC published October 20, 2025 (23 min, about 4,533 words). It mentions 33 people, works and ideas, including Universal, Peacock, Chicago, Andrea Canning, Deline.

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Peacock, Peacock, Universal, Andrea Canning
  2. – 10:00: Chicago, Marin Ireland
  3. – 15:00: Charles Manson, Chicago, Cleveland, Ohio, Donald C. Murphy
  4. – 20:00: Toronto
  5. – 23:21: Chicago, Death penalty, Gilgo Beach murders, Illinois

Notable quotes from "Preview: “Devil in Disguise: John Wayne Gacy”"

  • Peacock, the streaming channel, which is owned by our parent company, NBC Universal. Our colleagues at NBC News Studios are producers on the project.
    about Universal · at
  • And writer on the series. We were joined by two of the stars of the series Michael Chernis, who plays Gayy, and Gabriel Luna, who plays the detective who helped crack the case.…
    about Michael Chernis · at
  • An interesting aspect of the show because so much of the show is also about the systemic failure of Chicago PD to actually have stopped him, had multiple opportunities to stop…
    about Chicago · at
  • Yeah., And, that's, played, so, his, mother, is played by Marin Ireland., You, actually, open, with this mother the, whole, series,, right?, To, set, the, tone for what you were going for. She truly.
    about Marin Ireland · at
  • And, he's, he's, describing, in, cinematic vocabulary how just how personal we got with Elizabeth piece with Marin pushing in on her face. But when you listen to your podcast…
    about Haley Elizabeth · at
  • Yeah., our, our, Dennis, Murphy, at, Dline always says it's the marriage, not the murder. Even though the murder is of course very important, but it's the relationships, right, that there's a.
    about Donald C. Murphy · at
  • Of them, are Yeah,, it's, very, rare, you, get, a Charlie Manson or a Nightstalker who just kind of looks like a killer, like run, right?
    about Charles Manson · at
  • Yeah., But, I, had, I, I, was, flying, back and forth between Toronto and LA every weekend to be with my I have two sons and my wife. And this one Sunday, it was after this particularly simple but also very powerful Friday.
    about Toronto · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

Companies & orgs

  • Universal — Company · 4 mentions · first at
  • Deline — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Hey everyone, I'm Andrea Canning here with a bonus episode for Deline followers. We're diving into a chilling new drama series now available on Peacock, the streaming channel, which is owned by our parent company, NBC.
  • NBC News — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Peacock, the streaming channel, which is owned by our parent company, NBC Universal. Our colleagues at NBC News Studios are producers on the project.
  • NBC News Studios — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Peacock, the streaming channel, which is owned by our parent company, NBC Universal. Our colleagues at NBC News Studios are producers on the project.
  • Universal Content — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Yeah, I, did, not, want, to, do, it, and, Universal Content and Peacock they came to me a third time and they had said will you just take will you just take a look at the documentary and I said okay and I watched the.
  • Chicago Police Department (CPD) — Company · 1 mention
  • Dateline — Company · 1 mention
  • NBCUniversal — Company · 1 mention

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  • Peacock — Product · 3 mentions · first at
    Followers. We're diving into a chilling new drama series now available on Peacock, the streaming channel, which is owned by our parent company, NBC Universal. Our colleagues at NBC News Studios are producers on the project.

Concepts & topics

  • Gilgo Beach murders — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Themselves from the humanity. This is like a lot like another story I'm covering, the Gilgo Beach murders where,, you, know,, a, lot, of, sex, workers, were involved and, just…
  • Lethal injection — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    By, lethal, injection., It, was, I, think, the only the second lethal injection in the state of Illinois. They just changed over to lethal injection. Yeah. So he was executed.
  • Death penalty — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    It's lethal injection is here now. the death penalty, what do you stop running your mouth off.
  • PTSD — Concept · 1 mention

Places & events

  • Chicago — Place · 3 mentions · first at
  • Cleveland, Ohio — Place · 1 mention · first at
    I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio, which it's not exactly the same as a Chicago accent, but just I know that sort of like cadence and rhythm and melody of the kind of folksy Midwestern.
  • Toronto — Place · 1 mention · first at
  • Westchester County, New York — Place · 1 mention · first at
    Yeah., And, if, it, was,, I, always, say, this, like if it was the soccer mom in Westchester County, New York, that, if they were bringing down soccer moms, it would be 247 coverage, right?
  • Illinois — Place · 1 mention · first at
    By, lethal, injection., It, was, I, think, the only the second lethal injection in the state of Illinois. They just changed over to lethal injection. Yeah. So he was executed.
  • Des Plaines — Place · 1 mention
  • Los Angeles — Place · 1 mention
  • Texas — Place · 1 mention

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  • Peacock — Sponsor · 3 mentions · first at
    Followers. We're diving into a chilling new drama series now available on Peacock, the streaming channel, which is owned by our parent company, NBC Universal. Our colleagues at NBC News Studios are producers on the project.

Full transcript with timestamps

Hey everyone, I'm Andrea Canning here with a bonus episode for Deline followers. We're diving into a chilling new drama series now available on Peacock, the streaming channel, which is owned by our parent company, NBC Universal. Our colleagues at NBC News Studios are producers on the project. It's called Devil in Disguise, John Wayne Gasey.

I, got, to, set, the, record, straight. I killed so many Gayy was one of America's most prolific serial killers. In the 1970s, he kidnapped, and, murdered, at least, 33, young men and buried most of them in the crawl space beneath his house. But here's what's different about this new show from other documentaries and films you might have seen on the murders. Gayy isn't the main focus. Devil in Disguise is a show about Gayy's victims, who the young men were before they met Gayy their family's heartbreak and trauma after their murders, and the systemic failures and societal prejudices that allowed Gasey's crimes to go unnoticed for so long. Recently, I sat down with the showrunner Patrick McManis. He was also an executive producer, director and writer on the series. We were joined by two of the stars of the series Michael Chernis, who plays Gayy, and Gabriel Luna, who plays the detective who helped crack the case. What followed

was a conversation about honoring victim stories, crafting respectful narratives in true crime, and acknowledging the everyday heroes who solve those crimes.

Well,, thank, you, all, for, being, here. Yeah,, thanks, for, having, us. So,, Patrick,, let, me, start, with, you., Why did you decide to do this show and shape it the way that you did? Yeah. I mean the uh the story that I keep telling everyone is the just the true story which is that I um I turned it down twice

really. Uh, yeah, I, did, not, want, to, do, it, and, uh Universal Content and Peacock they came to me a third time and they had said will you just take will you just take a look at the documentary and I and I and I said okay and I and I watched the documentary that is on Peacock. It's brilliant. The documentary is really really amazing. But I didn't come away from watching the documentary wanting to do it because at the end of the day the documentary is very very focused on John Wayne Gayy. And so I said to them, I said, "Look, if you will let me uh do it my way," and I didn't mean it in an obnoxious way. I just meant that I want to focus it on the police. I want to focus it on the uh the lawyers. I want to focus on the victim's families. And at the time, I said, "And I would like to focus it on the victims." And to their credit, they said yes. And from that day, they have held true to that. I

mean,, as, someone, who, for, datine,, you know, I sit across all the time from victim's families. That's what we do. And the one thing that I felt like just quickly watching it, you know, right away I could feel how much you captured the victim's families like the mom and she has that conversation with her daughter about Christmas and you know there's no food in the house.

Going, to, head, out. Why?, No., Uh,, just, for, a, little, bit. There's no food in the house.

Well,, that's, not, true. Are, we, still, having, people, over, for Christmas dinner?

We, should,, right? But, like, that's, what, those, families, go through where like what is the point of celebrating Christmas? You know, we don't know where our son is or you know whatever has happened to your loved one. And I feel like that was something that was captured really, really well.

Thank, you., Our, team, of, writers, were extraordinary. Like they understood the, job, was, it's, not, about, John, Wayne Gasey. It's about like the the wake of wreckage that John Wayne Gasey left behind him.

And, that's, murder,, right?, The, ripple effect. Correct. Yeah., At, the, beginning, of, our, show,, you already know that John Wayne Gasey murdered these 33 people.

There's, like, It's, interesting, because there's no mystery here, right? Everyone knows who done it. Yeah. There's no who done it.

There's, no, who, done, it., And, I, keep saying it's more of a who were who were they and that's that's we are on the same trajectory. the the goals set forth by by these detectives at at that time in that time period, the responsibility they they felt that they held towards these families trying to put faces and names and voices to to the deceased only continues now with with what the writers, our writers did in that room and piecing together these really beautiful short stories and vignettes of the experience of these very young men you know, young men and boys who had all the potential in the world and and had it snuffed. out.

What, can, I, do, for, you? I, don't, know, too, much, about construction, but I I I'm a real fast learner.

No, time, like, the, now, or, never. Why, did, you, decide, to, play, Gayy?, such, a big role and you played him so well and he's he's sometimes he's creepy sometimes he's like the guy next door sometimes he's funny.

It's, there's, there's, so, many, faces, to him. There, are, and, that, was, in, my, opinion very true of the actual man. And so I knew that the role would be a real challenge in that regard. But I had this great initial meeting with Patrick. He told me that there would be no murders on camera, that we were focusing on the victims, that there would be these short stories in every episode. Then he said to me like, "I hope you're okay with you're not going to be in it

all, the, time.", And, I, was, like,, "Thank God." That's such a relief cuz like to have to embody John Gayy all the time. Uh just felt like maybe something I didn't want to take on just for like personal mental health reasons. You know,

you've, been, told, that, you, look, like, him. is that here, and, there, people, would, say, that, and you know it's not the highest compliment. Uh but uh yeah, you know people would say like, "Well, you look like that killer clown. You should see if someone would go

write, a, show, or, a, film, for, you.", And, so it was always kind of in the back of my mind. Uh

yeah. Um, and, Gabriel,, you, get, to, play, the, lead detective, which was such an important you know, role in real life for this story.

Yes., Yes., I, was, um, I, was, privileged, to play detective Raphael Tovar, the lead investigator on the case.

We, got, to, talk., Kids, missing., Reported last seen with you. I, don't, know, who, that, is.

What, did, you, take, away, as, your, most interesting moment of shooting or, the, most, interesting, part, of, your character? Um there was a lot that I you know I there's been doing this a long time and you're always excited when you feel that that you grew. It's there something and you grew and I and I I I think for me personally I had played a lot of invulnerable characters. I mean maybe physically invulnerable in that they were you know robotic killing machines or or superheroes with flaming skulls or

okay uh, you, know, um, just, just, these, heroes that seemed to be you knew they were heroes by looking at them and and what I loved about this part was just the mundanity of his heroism and and um and I thought that was pretty special

and, you, you, really, captured, the, weight that the detect detectives carry in with these cases, you know, and there's there's just some phenomenal detectives across this country that will not stop until, you know, their person is behind bars.

I, can, feel, that. Well,, yeah., I, mean,, that's, that's, it's an interesting aspect of the show because so much of the show is also about the systemic failure of Chicago PD to actually have stopped him, had multiple opportunities to stop him and and didn't. as teenage male employees start disappearing and nobody in your department looks into the guy.

But, on, the, flip, side, of, that, coin, are, a group of detectives who were in that pit every single day who had their lives upended. I mean, they I think they they would never say it's PTSD, but I think that we could look back and say that they came out of that experience with PTSD. And they were dedicated to ensuring that that every last um victim was found. And and where we got really the inspiration for Tovar's entire journey through the season was from a statement that he made where he said to this day, he's still haunted by the idea that he didn't find everyone. We never wanted to make it feel like the police are the quote unquote bad guys. That that is not it. It it was it was the system failed and then the system very much stepped to the plate to attempt to figure out how to bring every every young boy home.

And, there's, so, many, cases, that, have, that same trajectory. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Yeah. Casey's, final, victim,, Rob, Past,, fell under the jurisdiction of a suburban police department. And so in that way was one of Casey's many mistakes at the end where he abducted this boy from Displains and this this that police department had the energy and the time to to focus on this case.

Yeah., And, that's, played, so, his, mother, is played by Marin Ireland., You, actually, um, like, open, with this mother

the, whole, series,, right?, To, set, the, tone for what you were going for. She truly set the tone.

She, set, the, tone, at, the, table, read, and and and just gave this incredible speech to to to the detectives and and was

was, already, there., I, mean,, we, could, have rolled cameras on that first day.

I, hate, to, I, I, will, just, take, it, one, step back and say that she did it in the audition.

Like,, I'm, sure, she, did., I, mean,, I, I, mean this with the utmost of respect to these fine gentlemen um and every other actor I've ever worked with, but I have never picked up a phone and called the head of casting. I picked up the head of talked the head of casting at Universal and Peacock and I said, "I don't want to even have a conversation about this." And I didn't say it in a mean way. I said, "Just watch the tape and then just say yes." And it was about 12 minutes later.

Yeah. And, everything's, so, deliberate., Like, you have scenes where the detectives are talking but you're just looking at

I, know mom, right?, And, that's, like, on, purpose because that's the message of the show.

It, was, on, the, page, like, I, I, wrote, it that way very specifically. But the truth of the matter is is that originally in the first cut we never left her. It was it was a slow push in for the entire scene. We never turned around.

My, wife, is, upset, as, you, can, imagine. He's got a job. So, what's he meeting with this guy for?

He's, getting, his, license, this, year. Saving up for a car. All, right. All right. Well, listen. We have a file but uh they usually show up kids. You know, I think why we are all fascinated by these true crime stories I think what what's at what's the lynch pin of all that is is how personal it all is.

Yeah. And, he's, he's, describing, in, cinematic vocabulary how just how personal we got with Elizabeth piece with Marin pushing in on her face. But when you listen to your podcast or your show or any other true crime uh stories I think that that is what brings people in and draws them in. And and when we watch this, we see the human capacity for deviants and and crime and murder and and and also the failures of of just people, human people who who are who are doing their best or in some cases are in some cases are neglecting it. They're human

uh, capability, for, neglect., You, know, there's it's all just extremely personal

and, I, think, that, that, is, uh, really, what what people's fascination kind of stems from.

Yeah., our, our, Dennis, Murphy, at, Dline always says it's the marriage, not the murder. Even though the murder is of course very important, but it's the relationships, right, that there's a title for your next

show., No,, but, but, to, be, frank,, I, I, I, may put that up on the writer room board in the future because that's a very succinct, beautiful way of putting what the point of these shows should be right?

Yeah., Well,, because, so, often, it's, not some boogeyman type character. And I think that relates especially to this story is

the, fascination, that, it, could, be, your next door neighbor or it could be someone hiding in plain sight and just how um sometimes how pedestrian and normal some of these uh killers are. Uh

some, it's, Yeah,, it's, like, more, like, 90% of them, you know, are Yeah,, it's, very, rare, you, get, like, a Charlie Manson or a Nightstalker who just kind of looks like a killer, you know, like uh uh

like, run, right? But, yeah,, sometimes, it's, just, like, the jolly, chubby Polish neighbor next door who's like offers to shovel your driveway for you, you know

who, shook, hands, with, the, first, lady. Yeah. Yeah. And, by, the, way,, you, nailed, the, accent. Oh, thanks. That that that means a lot. I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio, which it's not exactly the same as a Chicago accent, but just I know that sort of like cadence and rhythm and uh melody of of of the kind of folksy Midwestern. Uh and you know, sometimes it's, you know there are some scenes where it's very present and some scenes where it's not. And that was very much on purpose because like I feel like our version of gay seed we were playing with is like leaning into that kind of a shucks folksy kind of you know

I'm, so, harmless, you, know that, was, good. Yeah, that, was, really, good. I, would, like, to, cooperate, with, you, boys help out in any way that I can. No, you were asking earlier like what's something that um we took away about our character or what you know um I feel like there was some amount of like I had to find some kind of I certainly don't have empathy or sympathy for the man and I feel like there's this thing amongst actors where it's like no matter who you play you have to find a way in to like love your character care to understand your character care about know you're playing the worst person who ever lived you have to like

and, this, was, the, first, and, I, always believed that like in drama school and and now I feel like that's BS. Like I maybe I I touch like he was a human being. That's a fact. He like lived and was flesh and bone. And so how how do you make that final leap? And I I don't know, you know, was some of it was just like the imagination and creativity of an actor. And I think if we're talking talking about what draws people to true crime, sometimes I think it's it's that these things that just don't make sense, these senseless stories these murders, and we're trying to make sense out of it, right? We're trying we want there to be a hero who solved it.

We want there to be a reason why he did it, a motive. Yes., There, was, insurance, money, or, they wanted custody of the child or, you know jealousy

completely., Yeah., And, for, me,, it's, like sometimes you just get to a point where there isn't an actual explanation.

And, sometimes, there's, just, not., And, we do have date lines where at the end it's like you ask like why why did they do this? And like

I, don't, know. You, know,, it's, you, don't, always, get, it wrapped up in a bow where you have all the answers and even if it's wrong, you know why. You know, you don't get that every time.

You, definitely, don't., Yeah. And, the, other, the, other, thing, that, you didn't, you know, go hard on was was the clown theme. Like we saw elements of the clown. We saw the you you were sitting at the table looking at the evidence with the clown costume and we see the clown paintings, but it's not like you're going hard every second on clown clown clown, which is what Gayy is known for right?

No., Yeah., And, if, I, don't, know if, we, can have a spoiler, but you never see the full clown. Like you never see me fully full face on camera as the clown. And that was very very intentional. I think it was one of the things I first asked you in our first meeting was like, "How much of the clown are you going to show?" Because

I, was, not, interested, in, that, part, of, the story. Yeah. And, it's, part, of, the, story, I, feel, like that got overdone in the 70s cuz it sold newspapers and you know, the killer clown and it was something unique and obviously

super, creepy,, but, it, was, it, actually, is a it's was a small part of who he was.

You, know,, you, didn't, need, it, though. Like you were still creepy and scary and all of it. it. You don't have to be in a clown costume to freak people out.

Yeah., But, I, I, agree., I, mean,, I, think that the the clown is the least creepy thing about John Gasey. And if anything I think it has done a lot of harm because it it has sort of softened his image or kind of humanized him because even though we clowns are scary, it is also sort of child there's a childlike kind of like innocence to it. And I think it helped with his sort of cult personality and how he like parts of like the heavy metal scene embraced him and, like, um, I, think, it, was, one, of the many things we were hoping to do with this is kind of rewrite the story on him and be like this guy's not cool. There's nothing interesting about him like he was there was nothing redeeming about this man.

When, you, researched, uh, the, victims, and their families, what really stood out to you the most before you started all of this? how young they all were.

Just,, you, know, his, youngest, 13. Yeah. 12., Wait. Uh, 14., 14. I, think, he, was., Yeah., The, youngest, was

Yeah. Just, had, just, turned. Just, turned. Randy, Ruffett. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah., I, mean,, just, to, just, to, piggyback on that, and it's a story that I that I've been telling quite a bit, is that I have a a very strange ability to compartmentalize and and not get affected by the stuff that I'm writing or the things that we're filming or

join, the, club. There, you, go., Well,, you, I, think, you, you sort of have to, right?

I, hear, I, hear, you. Yeah., But, I, had, um, I, I, was, flying, back and forth between Toronto and and LA uh every weekend to be with my I have two sons and and my wife. And this one Sunday, it was after this particularly um simple but also very powerful Friday night of shooting that I was having a football catch with my eldest son, who's 13 at the time. He's 14 now. And it just it like it for the first time in 18 months of working on this project, it was the very first time where it hit me and that I'm having a catch with with my son who was the same age as the youngest victim and I had to I had to excuse myself and go inside into the bathroom and it was the first time that I actually lost it. Like I really lost it and and

so, I, I, agree, wholeheartedly, that, it's that it it that is one of the primary things that that affects you. I think the other one is just is a little bit about how and we we specifically chose the stories that we chose in order to shine a light on sort of a different pocket of the system failing and the and the prejudices within the system that that allowed Gayy to get away with what he got away with. So, you know, we have a story that is about a coming out story. We have a story that is a straight love story. We have a story that is a sex worker story. We have a story that's a grooming story, right?

And again, we only could tell six right, out, of, the, 33., But, each, of, them represented this just utter failing of of of the world to to take care of these young boys. And and and again saying it I'll just keep saying it over and over again that they had so many opportunities to stop the number at two to stop the number at eight to stop the number at 14 to right and they just failed at every at every turn.

Yeah,, that's, such, a, good, point., There there was such a at the time in the 70s there was such a um judgment on the victims and it was labeled like this they were deviants or runaways or you know that there was there was some kind of um a judgment on the on these boys that allowed people to sort of distance themselves from the humanity. This is like a lot like another story I'm covering, the Gilgo Beach murders

where,, you, know,, a, lot, of, sex, workers, um were involved and, you know, just fell through the cracks

and, were, dehumanized, because, they, were sex workers. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah., And, if, it, was,, I, always, say, this, like if it was the soccer mom in Westchester County, New York, that, you know, if they were bringing down soccer moms, it would be 247 coverage, right?

Yeah., And, that, was, one, of, the, many things, you know, his last victim, Rob Pie, at the time. The paper said, "Well this was a good boy from a good home." And all of a sudden, everybody was interested. But what Patrick was saying was that one of the things that struck me too is like his victims were from all kinds of backgrounds. Like predominantly they were from sort of lowerass bluecollar homes, from a lot from from a similar neighborhood in Chicago. Some were sex workers, but some were not, and some were straight, and some were gay and some were figuring out who they were. But like I think all of his victims were sort there was sort of this universal stamp put on them at the time.

and and society just sort of like dehumanized them. Yeah,, we, can't, do, that.

Um, Gabriel,, I, was, curious, is, so, I, know, I realize this was such a long time ago. What like what happened to to the you know the detective you played and and also I don't even know

to, be, honest, with, you, what, happened, to Gayy like so if you could just I'm just curious. There was a um because of the approach we were taking, it being a fictionalized dramatization of of this story. It was important to us not to draw specifically from the the real men and women who were involved in this case. But after we wrapped, I kind of went in and did my own kind of reconnaissance and found out where where our our hero was. And he um he returned back to Texas.

Oh,, wow., Um, he, is, living, down, there, with his wife. I, think, he's, going, to, be, pleased, with your performance.

Oh,, absolutely., You're, fantastic. Um, yeah,, John, Gayy, was, executed, in, 1994.

Okay. By, lethal, injection., It, was, I, think, the only the second lethal injection in the state of Illinois. They just changed over to lethal injection. Yeah. So he he uh he was executed.

Um yeah,, that's, a, scene, in, the, show, where the lawyer saying, you know, shut up. It's you know, lethal injection is here now. the death penalty, you know, what do you stop running your mouth off.

Yeah., And, it, was, a, big, deal, at, the, time. There were protesters on sort of both sides. There were people who were anti-death penalty protesting outside and then, you know, people who are very pro kill the clown. Uh and so it was a whole media circus like so many things around this case at the time. you know there are still unidentified victims. And one great hope of mine is that maybe through telling the story and just like shedding a different kind of light on it that maybe we aid in putting a name to one or two or three of those boys that still uh are unknown of their identities.

That, would, be, amazing, if, something, like that could come out of this. Absolutely. Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely., Well,, it, has, been, a, pleasure talking to all of you and congratulations on this. Really just I can't say enough good things.

Thank, you. Thank, you, so, so, much, for, taking, the time. Thanks.

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In order: 0:00 Peacock, Peacock, Universal, Andrea Canning; 5:00 Chicago, Marin Ireland; 10:00 Charles Manson, Chicago, Cleveland, Ohio, Donald C. Murphy; 15:00 Toronto; 20:00 Chicago, Death penalty, Gilgo Beach murders, Illinois.

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