Vivek Ramaswamy | Part Of The Problem 1054

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 10:00: Donald Trump, Ukraine, Dave Smith, Hunter Biden
2. 10:00 – 20:00: Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Boris Johnson
3. 20:00 – 30:00: Israel, Ukraine, Russia
4. 30:00 – 40:00: Israel, Palestine, Benjamin Netanyahu, Boris Johnson
5. 40:00 – 50:00: Nikki Haley, Israel, Ukraine, BetterHelp
6. 50:00 – 1:00:00: Israel, George Washington

Notable quotes from "Vivek Ramaswamy | Part Of The Problem 1054"

• Big you're listening to part of the problem on the gas digal Network here's your host Dave Smith what's up everybody Welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem…

  about Dave Smith · at 0:26

• Great little moment where there was this one change where he started he was grilling you about Donald Trump using the term hostages to refer to January 6th prisoners which…

  about Donald Trump · at 1:27

• Few sentences but if we really want to get into like the war in Ukraine or the war in Israel or something like that the idea of doing this in like V you have 30 seconds oh…

  about Israel · at 8:57

• It's pretty interesting it was only I think a couple weeks ago that you were on with Pierce Morgan and he was like outrage but you're suggesting we give Putin land you're said…

  about Pierce Morgan · at 14:04

• Fiona Hills reporting and several others in 20122 the US had Boris Johnson go over there and tell zalinski not to negotiate with Vladimir Putin we prolonged this war for another year and a half under with all of this propaganda.

  about Boris Johnson · at 18:40

• I'm not a big fan of but you would also look and you know I hear Benjamin Netanyahu like quoting you know passages from the Torah and talking about what they're going to do to…

  about Benjamin Netanyahu · at 30:31

• Santis passing a law in Florida that requires students for justice for Palestine which is like an idiotic student group no doubt many things they say I find offensive but…

  about Palestine · at 37:19

• Your loyalty lies and or that your where your priority lies because you know another one Nikki Haley had a tweet a week or so ago where she said that as president or even she…

  about Nikki Haley · at 41:16

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Nikki Haley — Person · 4 mentions · first at 41:20
• Donald Trump — Person · 3 mentions · first at 1:32
• Boris Johnson — Person · 2 mentions · first at 18:44
• Dave Smith — Person · 1 mention · first at 0:31
• Robbie Bernstein — Person · 1 mention · first at 0:46
  Be in Arlington Virginia comic DAV smith.com for tickets several live comedy shows with Robbie Bernstein coming with me comic DAV smith.com for all the other stuff all right we…
• Hunter Biden — Person · 1 mention · first at 1:58
  Guys who got this rushia gate thing completely wrong didn't you tell us Hunter Biden's labtop was all misinformation but it was a great moment but it was a great little like…
• Pierce Morgan — Person · 1 mention · first at 14:08
• Benjamin Netanyahu — Person · 1 mention · first at 30:37
• George Washington — Person · 1 mention · first at 55:48
  Both David respects both David Ben grian's founding view for Israel but more importantly for me respects George Washington's 1796 view that we should not intervene in foreign…
• Jim Acosta — Person · 1 mention
• Robert F. Kennedy (RFK) — Person · 1 mention
• Vivek Ramaswamy — Person · 1 mention

Companies & orgs

• CNN — Company · 1 mention
• Gas Digital Network — Company · 1 mention
• Hamas — Company · 1 mention

Products & tech

• Backscape — Product · 1 mention
• Fume — Product · 1 mention

Places & events

• Israel — Place · 29 mentions · first at 9:03
• Ukraine — Place · 16 mentions · first at 9:00
  Powerful moment you did that in just a few sentences but if we really want to get into like the war in Ukraine or the war in Israel or something like that the idea of doing…
• Russia — Place · 7 mentions · first at 9:19
  Pretenses with the American people this is about good versus evil but just because Russia's bad doesn't mean that Ukraine is good and not that it's our job normatively to…
• Palestine — Place · 3 mentions · first at 37:23

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Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 fill her up you're listening to the gas digital Network we need to roll back the state we spy on all of our own citizens our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders if you want to know who America's Next enemy is look at who we're funding right now every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big you're listening to part of the problem on the gas digal Network here's your host Dave Smith what's up everybody Welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem before we get the show started big things a lot of big shows coming up this month this weekend I will be in Arlington Virginia comic DAV smith.com for tickets uh several live comedy shows with Robbie Bernstein coming with me uh comic DAV smith.com for all the other stuff all right we are joined once again by presidential candidate V ramaswami how are you sir good to good to see you man how you

0:58 doing good to see you too man I was was just uh literally earlier today I was watching you had a great exchange with one of the uh people in the corporate press who I cannot stand it's at the top of my list of people I can't stand um uh I guess this was from yesterday and you had this Great Exchange on CNN with um oh geeez I'm blinking on his name now Jim Masta Wasa Jim Masta sorry not a good way to start this guy's uh yeah piece of but it was a great it was a great little moment where there was this one change where he started uh he he was grilling you about Donald Trump using the term hostages to refer to January 6th prisoners which already was so bizarre because first of all you're not Donald Trump yeah so it's like this this thing where he's like uh he like well what do you think about the guy you're running against saying a thing that we don't approve using this one word yeah it's just like yeah and and you just

1:53 went you went aren't you guys like the guys who got this rushia gate thing completely wrong didn't you tell us Hunter Biden's labtop was all misinformation but it was it was a great moment but it was a great little like kind of microcosm of everything that's wrong with the corporate media is that they will like zoom in to the most trivial thing like Trump was supposed to say prisoners instead of hostages but since he said hostages that's the issue we're going to talk to you about meanwhile the country and the world is on fire but the story is Donald Trump said the wrong word so you did a great job of kind of framing that thank you man I it's it's um at at this point I I've become very I I I was started cynical about the media I think I am deeply jaded is where I'm at right now because we're also in this weird so so just to pick up on that strand this happens to me a lot D in this case I was

2:47 asking me about a think a random thing that Trump man Trump said but like with me a very similar thing has happened through the course of this campaign where I've done more podcasts like this one we're doing now probably than any other presidential candidate ever and I think it's a good format because we're not constrained to artificial two-minute segments or whatever however as long as the Legacy corporate media exists and and has continues to have influence they're in some ways threatened by even the existence of alternative media so what they do as their specialty it could very well happen to the conversation we're about to have take something that I say here as two human beings talking to each other as two human beings might with context and with Nuance or with perspective or whatever and airlift that out to then say well V just like they did for John Donald Trump he said he called the Gen 6 prisoners

3:36 hostages to say something that you then take out of the context of what is a long form conversation almost as an assault on that alternative mode of media actually which then creates a disincentive for people who are sitting in the seat that I am as a Republican presidential candidate to show up on podcast which is why many of them don't do longer form conversational formats like this anyway so it's a it's a broken game uh you know I think I think these debates have been a joke I mean the the media hosted debates but that being said I'm not here to sit here and complain about it anybody can be a victim my goal is to cut through and actually be somebody who is able to lead the country to a better place I'm not going to be able to fix the media as a political candidate we don't want political candidates doing that if you ask me but the best we can do is at least call it out transparently to people who

4:26 understand that they're being force-fed garbage and the more as the person who's on the receiving end of what you're force-fed know what you're being force-fed is garbage the more likely you are to take at least personal responsibility and accountability to question that which is something that I'm optimistic about actually today even relative to 10 years ago yeah I think the you made a really great point there that I hadn't even really thought about that much but the idea that this would intimidate a lot of people out of doing these long form shows because the truth is if you're G to have an hour long a two hour long like a really long honest conversation it's almost inevitable that you'll say something that could be taken out of context and shown in a very poor light tot it is you know it's weird for me as someone who I I do a show regularly I've been doing this for years it's all about government corruption and

5:12 media corruption and things like that but even for me it is kind of fascinating to see and I think really um you and RFK have been really the only ones who have been doing kind of like the podcast circuit um I know other uh candidates have done a couple maybe one or two and I'm the only one who's actually doing both though right cuz like so and maybe they won't have RFK on maybe maybe a strategy not to maybe he's smart to not do it but you could debate that but my policy is talk to everybody right so Left Right short term short form long form but I see what they then do is like the podcast conversations are the ones that get me in trouble when I go on the ultra artificial short two two minute segments on cable television and in some ways candidates respond to their incentives right so at first you could say like other candidates and some people are just scared of actually scratching beneath the surface of their

6:08 talking point so there's some of that but some of it is they understand their incentive where if they actually did do anything other than the prean talking points they're going to be actively penalized for it sure and I think we still live in a moment of the transition to newer forms of media that probably politically in the short run they're actually doing the right thing right because if in the GOP Primary most of their voters still consume most of our voters still consume their information via linear TV and radio and if that's what most older voters are reaching rather than long from podcast or whatever then you want to make sure you don't screw that up as your priority which means if you had to choose then don't do the longer form real human conversation so in some ways it's just about a people responding to what people do they respond to their incentives and that's what you see the Republican class

6:56 of political candidates doing today as well but you probably enough beating that dead horse but it is something that I've noticed in this campaign and it's real and I see it every day and now I'm just when I go on CNN or whatever I'm just calling it out at least for what it is right well I mean it's hard to ignore how and and it's you could be the most far leftwing or far right-wing or anywhere in between person but if you're just just being an adult you would go oh so we now almost everybody has the internet we don't have the time constraints that used to be thing in the television world and you're like well wouldn't it be just a superior format if you're trying to figure out who you want to be the president of the United States of America to hear an indepth conversation and it's from my perspective it's kind of wild because here we are um this is the third time you've you've been on the show with me

7:48 by the end of this we because last time we went pretty long we will have spoken for over three hours about a lot of complex topics and where you stand not only of all and and you do all like these shows on the corporate media I don't think a single one of the journalists there has any interest in having a three-hour long conversation with you and and by the way they could they have internet like they have YouTube channels too it doesn't just have to be on their television show but it's just kind of interesting that you have this alternative media where you can really get in depth into topics that are very important topics and then you still have the Legacy corporate media that really just exists on sound bites and and as you kind of alluded to even the official president debates are set up to be sound bite Fest joke and and it's you know and and like you can not to say you can within a short period of

8:37 time make a good point I thought when you the one of the exchanges you had with Mike Pence before his campaign rest in peace but one of the uh one of the exchanges you had when you kind of called him out for giving this morning in America speech and you were like look this is the reality for your generation but for my generation it's just not like that's not the like I thought that was a powerful moment you did that in just a few sentences but if we really want to get into like the war in Ukraine or the war in Israel or something like that the idea of doing this in like V you have 30 seconds oh that's where Niki haly has actually you know managed to uh build a false credibility on her fraudulent pretenses with the American people this is about good versus evil but just because Russia's bad doesn't mean that Ukraine is good and not that it's our job normatively to decide who's good versus evil in the first place but that

9:26 requires something Beyond 302s and you have somebody who you know privately doesn't have to explain why they're profiting from you know wartime activities or whatever but can wear this good versus veneer facade which is I I don't want to I don't want to overreach on this thread but even just talking about it out loud with you Davis it's an interesting thing to analyze about whether you can make the case for war more persuasively in short sound bites than you can make the case against it and so that would Bode very well for the future if alternative media ends up being the way that we adjudicate most of our political discussions we're not anywhere near there yet I actually think we're in in some ways the most dangerous of all worlds where the two coexist where one can actually take the other out of context for the purpose of Deceit which is what I see happening now but it's an interesting question even if you

10:12 look over the cases made about the case to go to Iraq weapons of mass destruction it's like an easy phrase fits within a 30 second to sound bite and you know I think there are certain things that asymmetrically you're more likely to be able to make a persuasive case generally for the wrong View if you're able to only make that case within a short amount of time in a way that the alternative side requires more Nuance it will tilt the scales towards certain outcomes that would not obtain in the world were it not for the format by which you discuss it it's sort of like a Heisenberg Principle here is the way you're describing it or the format ultimately affects the underlying outcome of the actual policy debate I don't know if I'm rambling if that makes any sense to you no no I think it's a real I think it's a really interesting point I mean and look I I'd say at at the very least by definition any

11:02 argument that requires nuance and thought is going to be on is going to start out with a disadvantage yes in that in that type of environment right and so so it's a proar and antiwar in that particular case I think that that automatically I think in certain cases under certain circumstances does tilt the scale to one outcome over another depending on the modality you're using to make that argument I do think that that's true actually all right guys let's take a quick moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is fume pronounced fume but spelled Fu M look cold turkey may be great on sandwiches but there's a better way to break your bad habits I'm not talking about some sketchy weird mind Voodoo thing here we're talking about fume and they look at a problem in a completely different way not everything in a bad habit is wrong so instead of a drastic uncomfortable change why not just remove

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12:44 the promo code problem to save 10% off when you get the journey pack today that's trif nume.com promo code problem for an additional 10% off today all right let's get back into the show so okay speaking of War um there's been since last time we talked there's been a major shakeup we'll get to Israel in a second but I actually wanted to start with Ukraine because this is a um one of the things that I think you know uh you have been one of the few voices out there um who's been very critical of our our policy and and funding this uh war of choice on Russia's border over the last two years there was very clearly a major shakeup in the last few days over where the American regime is on this War uh it's there was a Time Magazine piece this is usually how it starts first you see something in Time Magazine and then next thing you know so Time Magazine runs this piece that zalinsky has no chance of winning

13:40 the war uh everybody around him is saying he's delusional his military isn't fight F uh following his orders anymore um and then there's been reports uh over the last few days and this is all you know under the condition of anonymity official US sources say but it does seem like there's a pivot here and that they're they're pushing um for zinsky to start negotiating with Putin it's pretty interesting it was only I think a couple weeks ago that you were on with Pierce Morgan and he was like outrage but you're suggesting we give Putin land you're said by the way something kind of interesting here the whole talking point of all the people who support the war in Ukraine and all the people who support Israel and there's a lot of overlap the whole talking point during Ukraine was but you can't win territory by force in a war and then it's like oh by the way we have to support Israel forever so anyway

14:31 there's just a little kind of interesting there like I don't know the history of Israel I was going to go I mean even some other directions even in terms of like the theories of proxy war I don't know this is just a bit of a mind Bender but like you know country a funds actor B to hit country c means that country C gets to hit back at Country a well that's like how it works with you know if you know whatever Iran the justification for a preemptive strike on Iran is they're funding on that justification Russia would be able to justifiably hit the United States right now which is nuts but the same people talking out of all sides of their mouth have no self-awareness about basic principles that they're bringing to each context but just on Ukraine here just just for a second on factual grounding the thing that's nutty about this one is that well there's so many things that are not about it but even if you believed that were the

15:29 job of the US to adjudicate who is good versus evil in a complex historical conflict which I reject this premise that this is the job of the US but even if you did in the case of Ukraine you're talking about a country that has literally banned 11 opposition parties that has Consolidated talking about media All State TV media all TV media into one state TV media arm he's threatening not to hold elections this year because it's an emergency or whatever but to say unless the US Forks Over more money to fund the elections they won't hold the elections and then the regions of Russia or the regions of Ukraine that are occupied are Russians speaking regions that literally have not been in any sense part of Ukraine for the last 10 years they haven't been representing the Ukrainian Parliament the people who live there don't think of themselves as part of Ukraine the people in the rest of Ukraine don't really

16:17 think of them or care for those regions in the donbas and the eastern part of Ukraine to be part of Ukraine and yet we are now fighting and waging some major indirect proxy war for that region in some Battle of good versus evil I mean that itself those are basic facts that you don't get from the mainstream either the mainstream candidates in either political party and we've created this mythology around a good versus evil about them taking over territory when these territories that Russia occupies now part of the reason they're able to occupy them is that there was no resistance why is there no resistance the people there did not think of themselves as part of Ukraine and the rest of Ukraine doesn't even really view them as the rest of part of Ukraine they speak a different language and they haven't been represented in the parliament the things joke and the funny thing is I don't think the other

17:01 Republican candidates like I don't even think they know that actually yeah like I don't I literally don't I mean even Ronda sandz who on a given day can be saying the right thing it's like he's sort of like froder cat you never know whether he's neoc conron or the other one but even on the good days I don't think he actually understands the why I completely agree listen I'll say this I don't even when Trump is saying the right things I'm not convinced he actually knows what happened in 2014 in in Ukraine I don't think he knows hand that we had in in Victoria newand and whoever else from the US stiring the pot creating a problem that we're now paying for years later look Joe Biden was instrumental in the ma on coup and I don't think he remembers what happened in 2014 I I I would bet my life savings um which is not you know it's not your life savings but it's a decent little uh pot I would bet it that Joe

17:59 Biden couldn't answer questions about what he was doing in Ukraine in 2014 but all these other Republican candidates I'm just convinced yeah they just they don't even know um but one of the things that kind of it's like there's always during war there's this fog of War uh it's the I don't know who uh coined this term but the first casualty of war is the truth and so you get all of these narratives that are spun all of this propaganda but as the dust kind of settles you go okay so imagine this is what's actually going to happen now is that we're going to insist that they negotiate with Putin and Putin takes some of the keeps some of the territory whatever the deal ends up being it ends up being but if the war ends up coming to a close you look back at it and you go oh okay so at least according to Fiona Hills reporting and several others uh in 20122 the the US had Boris Johnson go over there and tell zalinski not to

18:48 negotiate with with Vladimir Putin we prolonged this war for another year and a half under with all of this propaganda that if Vladimir Putin wins this then he moves on Poland next and then he reconstitutes the Soviet Union and so like when that's o when this is over and when none of that happens when Vladimir Putin doesn't invade Poland he doesn't reconstitute the Soviet Union because that was all nonsense to begin with yep you're left with it and you go so what did we do what even if you're saying we needed to defend these ukrainians all we did was get them slaughtered and prolong this war for nothing totally that that's that's that's the reality I mean and and you're talking about large numbers of young Ukrainian men young Russian men and and I don't know if that violates some sort of of Covenant that you're supposed to have that that's supposed that you're even supposed to care about

19:41 that is a factor but just as a human being now just not speaking as an American or a leader of this country like that's a lot of people dying for a really pointless war on either side now I'm running for the role of US president so my question is how does this Advance American interests and it does not other than increasing the risk of significant conflict with Russia at a time where that doesn't Advance the US interest at all and so the question is what did we accomplish with this $200 billion of expenditure and I guess we look back and the answer to that question will have been almost certainly nothing so that's almost a different criticism than the one that I have which is that we shouldn't be meddling in other parts of the world otherwise but this is almost a failure of efficacy to say that you went all the way around to medal and literally have nothing to show for it other than having funded a lot of

20:27 additional debts taken additional risk for the United States in spending $200 billion of taxpayer money at a moment where're 33 soon to be$ 34 trillion in the whole closer to 34 than 33 precisely because we funded this and we're bankrupt at the time that we're actually spinning away money on these so so it's almost like even the failure of efficacy is a second order criticism to the more philosophical criticism which is that we shouldn't be engaging in being the Arbiter of disputes on the other side of the world like I've been personally critical of azan's I would say craving actions Armenia but against the backdrop of believing the US should not be intervening and so the utter hypocrisy of why the US is intervening in one Russian periphery conflict but not another is itself inexplicable to the good versus evil crowd which would have a stronger case for actually defending neor kabak adjacent to Armenia than they

21:16 do actually in defending Ukraine but forget the good versus evil thing altogether we shouldn't be playing that game so it fails on multiple different levels Dave and it makes you wonder whether there's something deeper going up right it's not like it fails at one level but but at least the argument holds water another it's failing on every level which makes you I think entertain more Sinister at least possibilities of either deep incompetence or else some other form of I don't know whether the it's comforting that incompetence is our best explanation or whether that's actually at least comforting compared to what the alternative is but either way I think what's gone on in Ukraine has really exposed this foreign policy establishment's rot for what it is yeah and it's and it's one more of these things where you see this almost with all these wars it was true with the war in Iraq and and Afghanistan too where

22:03 they kind of start out being somewhat popular and then as the reality of the situation kind of becomes more and more clear they lose in popularity too so then as like a third order criticism you know it's that war ends up being very unpopular like in the end in in the end it does when when people actually have to pay the costs uh for these wars but it will be it'll be interesting to see how they all pivot to some other explanation me and my my uh my buddy Rob uh on our last episode were just joking around about like so what's When Vladimir Putin doesn't move on Poland you know it'll be like well it's because we took a stand here in Ukraine and that's why you know he was going to but now now it's like you could argue the same you'll argue the facts did not matter you will reach the same conclusion with the facts that you have and that's the classic argument y or or with Co you know as they've just kind of

22:51 come to now it's like well we were working with you know not perfect information and we were doing the best we could and so you know it's like oh okay right yeah that's right you got you kind of got nothing else that's close you're going to get to an admission of defeat yeah so okay so let's talk a little bit about what since the last time we talked was not a thing but now seems to be by far the biggest uh story in the world and that is the uh Israeli Palestinian War which is currently going on as we speak am I I believe so I know um uh Michael rectenwald who's running for the libertarian party uh nomination he certainly uh uh would agree uh with this and I I'd imagine Cor West probably would too but I believe correct me if I'm wrong but I think you are the only major Party candidate who is essentially a non-interventionist in in this conflict right that you don't believe America should be funding this war that you

23:42 don't believe we should be meddling in it and and that's where I'm at on this actually from like a slightly different point of view than others who might get to the same place on different grounds right I actually believe in Israel's right to exist the whole founding premise of Israel was that Israel has the right to defend itself and David benan the founder of Israel sort of said the reason we need our own nation is we don't want to depend on the fleeting sympathies of others in the west or elsewhere we should defend ourselves and so I happen to think that this better respects the founding premise of Israel but I'm not running for president of Israel I'm running for president of the United States and my view as president of the United States or you know if I'm elected to that position is I don't support this $14 billion or 14 to6 billion Aid package I don't support the whole thing I madean the 61 going to

24:29 Ukraine I'm against but this 16 I'm against too I have a general rule of thumb which is that we should not be providing foreign aid to any country whose national debt per capita is less than ours and I think that our foreign aid should be zerob based budgeting period asking what's actually necessary to advance the American national interest that should be the only form of that foreign aid but I could make a strong case that it's neither in the US interest nor even in Israel's interest for us to medal we should not be sticking our nose into the Middle East to the contrary Dave and this makes some people mad when I say this and this all against the backdrop of and I've said this countless times but since maybe I haven't said it to your audience I think what Hamas did to Israel was subhuman it was wrong it was dastardly it was medieval and Israel has absolute right to defend itself so this

25:17 is in zero way providing any justification for that at all but it's a factual backdrop for the us to look ourselves in the mirror and ask ourselves how our own inter itions are actually counterproductive to our own stated goals I think it is not an accident that that happened on October 7th after a summer in which the US is having what I think are crazy town talks with Saudi Arabia about nuclear technology transfer to Saudi Arabia arguably most oil Rich Nation on Earth it is not a coincidence even those in neocon media Central have had to contend with the reality that those two things were probably related to one another and so we're like a bull in a china shop like waddling into the Middle East it has never done good for the United States or even for some of the very actors that were supposedly helping like Israel it hasn't been good for anybody yeah and so I think that we have to take

26:08 a long hard look in the mirror and ask ourselves why do we have our sons and daughters now sitting as sitting Targets in places like Syria and Iraq last time I checked we were told that we weren't in those places well why are we in those places if there's no clear strategic reason for why and I don't think there is we shouldn't be there in the first place and so that's where I come out on this question which has been in the short run very unpopular in certain corners of the Republican Party have taken a lot of heat for it I think in the medium term and I think part of the reason why I'm not trying to boast but it takes somebody to persuade people right you can't just tell them where they're already at and then feed them like an addiction feeding cocaine to a cocaine addict you have to actually lead them to a different direction which I'm trying to slowly do here in making the what I think is naturally persuasive

26:52 case but it still requires somebody to make it that the Republican neocon Wing that has made the same mistakes in Iraq and Afghanistan is about to make them yet again and ought not for American interests and I think that to the extent that that's not enough to persuade you I think that it's not even in Israel's interest or other allies interests for us to Waddle in and messily participate in these conflicts all right guys let's take a moment to thank our sponsor for today's show one of our newest sponsors and that is backcap do you have a hairy back are you embarrassed by your disgusting back hair well there's a product for you no more need to be embarrassed or ashamed just go pick up backcap it's the fastest growing male grooming company on the planet hasslefree back grooming do it in the shower before you get dressed do it at the gym and you can do it solo that's what really matters you don't have to

27:42 ask anyone to help you anymore believe me no one no matter how much someone loves you no one wants to help you out with grooming your back hair but now you don't need to ask them it only takes five minutes to have a completely hairfree back Bid Farewell to back hair with backs scape and if you go to backcap docomo and use the promo code problem you'll get 25% off your order that's backcap docomo promo code problem for 25% off your order all right let's get back into the show well it's funny even as you bring up I mean obviously the the nuclear um assistance is is just insane I did I did see several articles written about that it's also particularly when I just I hear the justification everywhere we intervene is about democracy or rights abuses and you're like yet Saudi Arabia I mean like what are we talking about the most undemocratic most brutal uh regime in the region which is really saying something and like that but we're

28:40 we're to IGN even dating back if you want to go back 22 years I mean it's not not really a country that we have we ought to have some sort of trustworthy enough relationship to transfer nuclear power to this country it's it's beyond beond imagination and yet both parties I mean it's Biden he's certainly the US president but there's Republican Senators going right along with that too and the irony is that likely paid some role in catalyzing what happened on October 7th which hurt our Ally Israel in the mid so it comes full circle to make absolutely zero sense yet here we are and and also I mean look one of the things that I I think about a lot and like full disclosure like I'm I'm Jewish and uh my family does not particularly care my uh views on Israel but I will say and of course I agree with you the Hamas attack was absolutely horrific and horri and and just viciously immoral um but when you talk about what is in

29:39 Israel's interest and this is one of the problems we have when we do intervene in different parts of the world is there's a tremendous moral hazard that we then kind of are responsible for because for example even with someone like zalinski look had we not been funding him well then of course he would have had to negotiate with Putin and there's a lot a lot of he was actually ready to back in back in April or whenever this was before Boris Johnson flew down there mentioning yes before Boris Johnson went and broke up the negotiations on behalf of the American regime exactly um but with Israel I mean you know as Israel is uh is kind of uh in the process of leveling Gaza and you see protests all around the world breaking out against Israel now however we may feel about those protesters or some of the things that they're yelling while they're protesting and there's certainly some of them that

30:31 I'm not a big fan of um but you would also look and and you know I hear Benjamin Netanyahu like quoting you know passages from the Torah and talking about what they're going to do to G and you're like are you are you guys not at all concerned like do you not look around and think this might go very badly for you and I wonder if you know if it wasn't that the biggest baddest bully on the Block the American Empire is like don't worry we have your back if there isn't some moral hazard here on the Americans part that sure look if you're taking the position we shouldn't intervene in Israel you have a right to defend yourself however you see fit like okay fine and I would go one step further even diplomatically stop the UN from intervening or anything else too right so I don't think it's our job to be the world's policeman I think it is the moral duty of the US president to look after the interests of Americans

31:24 and it's the moral interests moral duty of every nation's leader to look after the citizens of his Nation but I think that we do everyone a disservice when we're selectively you know I would go so far to call it arbitrarily arbitrarily interventionist I think it creates the absence of clear red lines and the absence of clear red lines or predictable red lines are ones that actually provide an escalation path to World War II and so you know I mean I'm coming out with this with this pledge you know we're going to ask all my supporters to get on board with it at least if they're supporting me they should at least know what they're supporting and we're gon to you know say that anybody who serves in my Administration should I successfully secure this nomination and and become the next president make sure that anybody who I'm appointing agrees to these same basic commitments as well avoiding World War III is a vital

32:17 US national interest war is not a preference only a necessity and that the moral obligation of US policy makers is to exclus ly look after the interests of American citizens period I don't think that should be controversial but these are basic principles and tenants that I think the next Administration which is why I'm running to lead that administration because it's not going to be somebody else that delivers this really has policy makers both work in the executive branch and I think people in Congress should abide by the same these are these are not controversial things to say avoiding world war3 is a vital National objective that war is never a preference it is only a necessity and that the job of US policy makers is to look exclusively after the interests of US citizens I I don't think that this should be controversial but it's not certainly the dominant view in either of the two major political

33:12 parties today though I do think that we have an opportunity to make the Republican party the party that does embody some of those basic principles but that's what this primary fight's all about sure sure no well listen I I would go further and say I think it's that's kind of to me like a basic test and if you don't agree with that I just don't know I think you should see failing a psychiatric exam like what do you see in this ink blot do you see World War III do you see that as a good thing um so one of the things that I I appreciated that you uh said during uh very early on um during this this uh recent War um and I I will say I've been it's been really amazing to watch there are a lot of people in the kind of like a conservative pundit world and I'm not really even talking about like the corporate press I'm talking more about like you know Ben shapiros and and people like that who um kind of rose to fame off of opposing

34:09 identity politics and opposing Council culture and sensorship and that seems to all change when Israel is involved in a war and all of a sudden if you uh are say critical of the Israeli government's treatment of the Palestinians or you're critical of the war you are a Jew hater it seems very similar to me to the way woke leftists you know uh would would dismiss people who make any type of argument um and there's also been this move uh to push for censorship um and again that's not to suggest that I love everything that's coming out of the protesters mouths or every chant that they make or things like that but there has been this move particularly in some European countries there's been calls for it here at American universities to kind of Silence the dissent or the pro Palestinian voices on this issue and I think you had commented something where you were like yeah look I don't agree with these guys

35:04 but I'm also like I still believe in the free speech thing yeah I I I like deeply believe in the free speech thing because it's the thing that defines this country and this has not been at to date a winning political argument or dominant favorably political view in the Republican party though I hope to change that because I think people are the more I'm able to talk about this I think the more we are persuading people of this so so I'll note a couple of is here okay I've always been a free speech absolutist and I will be till the day I die if there's one thing I mean I going to change my mind on a lot of things I'm not going to change my mind on this one because and I don't think our country should change our mind on this one it's in the First Amendment for a reason now couple of ironies here okay this is all against the backdrop of these students on campuses I mean these many of these people are idiots right they're lost

35:49 they're hung I mean there's a deeper thing going on they're hungry for purpose and meaning and they go to the next ISM from cism to climatism to anti-semitism to whatever right wokeism zilin ISM I mean these are just symptoms of a hunger for something bigger than me that I need to believe in when I no longer believe in the things that used to ground us but that's a deeper discussion for another day that's what's going on on these campuses but they say some pretty idiotic things so I wrote my first book woke ink okay at a time where this was not a popular viiew to have in the wake of George Floyd's protests to say when you say chant death to America or death to white people I mean this existed on college campuses during the wake of the BLM Madness a few years ago I I was never there was never to say that these people should be censored far from it I was arguing against their censorship of any opposing view on their

36:36 on the on the campuses using either informal or Capital C censorship which is directly through government intervention or lower Casey censorship which is a culture of intimidation that stops universities from fulfilling their own purpose of fostering free speech and open debate even if it's technically legal that it's still culturally undesirable that was the argument I was making the irony though there's first of two ironies I want to point out the irony is that the very people who then were among those who either were like perfectly fine with this happening death to white people no problem death to America no problem are the ones that are having a conniption now when there's the same kinds of BLM people saying death to Israel right and and you have Ronda santis passing a law in Florida that requires students for justice for Palestine which is like an idiotic student group no doubt many things they

37:26 say I find offensive but literally calling for them to disband requiring them to disband in Florida State universities because he said they're part of assisting providing material support to a terrorist organization I mean this is post 911 stuff here this is Dick Cheney Patriot Act stuff here in this country these kids weren't providing Munitions and money to Hamas they were tweeting in favor of Palestinians and to call that material support and then to ban them that's a First Amendment violation so the iron is where the hell were you 3 years ago anyway right for for death to America death to white people that's fine but now in this other direction we're going to go censor speech in the other direction there's another irony too though which is you know coming at this from a different angle if one of those people with you know I don't know nose rings and pink hair and transgender activists ended up in the Middle East

38:15 and sort of say want to say even free Palestine they would be themselves blacklisted but the thing that makes us different in the United States of America from jist countries or even even you know strict Islamic countries or any censorious regime is that we allow them to express those stupid opinions that's what makes America itself and so it does frustrate me that the very Crusaders against cancel culture have now made their Crusade conditional on whether or not they agree with the underlying speech it's sad I think it betrays the actual principle at stake s yeah Des Santos is what Miss he he kind of runs as like Mr anti-woke but then when it comes to Israel You're the wokest out of everybody you're like oh essentially you're going what he's saying in a different way is like racism is a form of violence it's the same like argument it's like anti-Semitism is giving Aid and support to Hamas so what

39:14 the guy says is you know he's not he's not I mean there there are many dumb individuals in politics including presidential politics he's not dumb right I mean he's you know have I met many many many smarter people in my life I have but he's not he's not as stupid person okay he enough to understand that what he's saying here isn't isn't accurate he says this isn't about Free Speech it's about providing material support to a terrorist organization so so what was that material support they said that we are part of the movement that's what they said we're part of the free Palestine movement well said if you're part of the movement and these are you know Hamas is doing this then that means you're part of a terrorist group on that definition we're there's no First Amendment left in the United States of America right so there for I guess if you if you say you don't believe the election results of20 are you a January

40:00 6th you know like are you should you go to jail with the jary 6 resistance even if you're sitting at home watching it on television you're cheering and saying I'm with you I'm part of your movement boom you're in jail now many of those J 6 protesters themselves should not have been in jail but certainly somebody sitting at home saying that I am with you shouldn't be either and yet the the lack of astounding selective lack of awareness reveals to me I mean you have some dumb people in the Republican party some very people uh this exists in politics in both sides it's it's an unfortunate feature of modern politics that it selects for people with with you know I would say an absence of critical thinking skills but what's worse is when you have people who do I think have some of those skills not in the sharpest form but they have the basic enough skills the Rhonda sises of the world that purposefully abandon their ability to

40:50 reason this through to just say what they say to please whoever it is they're pleasing that I think is a deeper and more damning indictment of not only the state of the Republican party but the state of American politics as we know it well it it also shows it's a window into priorities and I think maybe in a a sense that's what you were getting at when you were kind of talking about this this uh pledge for people in your Administration that America is where your loyalty lies and or that your where your priority lies because you know another one uh Nikki Haley had a tweet um a week or so ago where she said um she said that as president or or even she said as president or she called right now for the defunding of all universi selective defunding of defunding where there's anti-semitic rhetoric which is again very vague I mean the right answer is if you want to argue against Federal funding shut down

41:44 the Department of Education as I've said I get behind that I'm listen I'm the most hardcore libertarian I'm for defunding all yes universities like but the but the my point about priorities is it's like kind of what the point you were making about like where were you in 2020 it's like Nikki Haley how okay let let's just say because there has been some and by the way some of the rhetoric gets labeled as anti-semitic when it's really not it's just critical of Israel's treatment toward the Palestinian people like that's not anti-semitic but there is some anti-semitic rhetoric too mixed in there fair enough but you want to defund these universities now that there's anti-Semitism what about all of the anti-white male rhetoric that where the hell were you completely dominated the universities for at least a decade probably more than that but now and so it does show this weird and you wonder like as somebody

42:36 who and I'm saying this as a Jewish person but as somebody like Jews are 2% of the United States of America and we overwhelmingly vote for Democrats so like why is Nikki Haley's line anti-Semitism yet being like being against Christians being against white men being against straight men all of whom majority vote Republican an like why is it that your priority is why is this the line it's just it's a very like strange line there's probably a lot of answers to that question you'd have to ask her for her answer I'm not sure she would answer honestly uh I don't know if she's capable of that she's signing her tweets a couple years ago in the name of George Floyd was was was was signature lines from her tweets a couple years ago but you know she's like a flag that waves in whatever Direction her winds blow on a given day but it's it's now in her case it's a little different than Ronda Santa I mean she's just straight

43:26 up corrupt actually I mean this is a person who left her time at the UN in debt spending money she didn't have she feigns being an accountant she never passed the CPA exam and apparently doesn't know how to balance her own personal checkbooks if she's in leaving in debt from her time at the UN but then becomes a multi-millionaire how military contractor Board of Boeing which is a different kind of military contractor speaking fees at secretive actors that you know likely for all we know she hasn't disclosed the military contractor's clients over overlap with them has collected corporate stock options in the middle of a presidential campaign which as far as I know is unprecedented and suddenly a multimillionaire it's not that different than Biden who gets a $5 million bribe by way of his son from Ukraine to send $200 billion of our taxpayer money to Ukraine you you got a republican version

44:12 of the same thing and you know they there are certain reasons why political Consultants would tell you not to go after Nikki Haley about that who brings full circle back to Identity politics interesting how that works for a party supposedly against identity politics but I don't care for that's St facts are facts and they deserve to be called out and this you know this individual is fundamentally corrupt and represents the face of the military industrial complex has made a lot of money off of war the prospect of war and these are not the people you should want deciding whether to send your kids to go die in somebody else's war and yet that's what the corporate media has decided as their their new newly chosen puppet so you know it does give me a greater sense of purpose to make sure I'm successful in this race it is increasingly challenging when the corporate media I mean there's one thing that I thought I was hitting

45:01 the third rail Dave a few years ago when I was writing woke in and some of these identity issues I was not anywhere close to the third rail actually I I was I was defecting from I was you know third rail within Corporate America maybe but not for the media it was it was perfectly fine the real third rail is foreign policy if you abandon the Hedon role if you abandon the liberal hegemony neoconservative Vision that's when you're touching that third rail and and that you know makes it doubly difficult for a political candidate like me it's why we want freedom loving people to you know support us as a Grassroots movement lifting this up because that's what's going to take a Reformation of the Republican party that's not organically gonna happen but you know I say just at least forget even give him the money at least sign the pledge right go to go to the website sign avoid World War I pretty simple War should be a

45:53 necessity not a preference and the job of US policy maker is to advance us interest everybody who works in my Administration is going to have to sign that pledge you know at least everybody in an appointment position it'll be a litmus test for saying whether you're an appropriate appointment in my Administration or not well this show is sponsored by better help better help is a great service sometimes in life we're faced with tough choices and the path forward isn't always clear whether you're dealing with decisions around your career your relationship or anything else therapy can help you stay connected to what you really want in life while you navigate the complexities of every day trusting yourself to make decisions that align with your values is like anything else the more you practice it the easier it gets I personally have benefited from therapy and I know lots of people who have I'm a big believer

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47:35 think it was at Georgetown um and they were chanting you know they have tanks we have hang gliders glory to the resistance Fighters and I'm like what are you doing me idiotic it's wrong it's offensive no however you know so like okay so those people you're like this is just what do you you lost your Humanity you're rooting for the people who like killed innocent civilians this is insane okay so there are some Stu anything where there's leftwing people protesting it there's going to be some stupid stuff mixed in yeah however look it was both Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul have referred to Gaza as an open air prison there are lots of intellectuals on the left who have made very strong cases um and there just lots of people in general who have pointed out that look well clearly there is uh there are issues with radical Islam and with terrorism that Israel's treatment of the Palestinian people is

48:29 has been let's just say horrifically unfair for a very long time and I wonder do how do you feel about some of these figures and I mean like I like protection to right-wingers that like panan said it and Ron Paul said it so this doesn't make you a left Wier to maybe like acknowledge some of this I agree with you on the policy and I give you a lot of credit for being like I believe the only major party non-interventionist on this topic that's what really matters is that we're together that America shouldn't be involved in these conflicts but I did see you had that that Tre that tweet where you were saying something along the lines of like look Israel has a right to do whatever they need Israel wants to so my view is this because because I'm running for US president I'm not running to be God right God will have judge you on your morality in the afterlife or whatever depending on what your belief system is whatever speaks to

49:20 you I'm not running for God I'm not running for president of the world I'm not running for Secretary General of the UN the you know is is a broken institution and you know I think has good reasons not to exist but my view is this is and I say why I'm not running for un is the UN is trying to make proclamations on this stuff I I don't think it's helpful I don't think it's useful I think the Secretary General of the UN is a joke so I don't want to commit the same mistakes I mean take about Russia Ukraine think about the Middle East think about Armenia aeran there's a lot of long history that most people in the US and even most people in other parts of the world don't have the first clue about let alone trying to get through adjudicating all of it so my view is this I'm I'm in the humble role of running for a narrow position called president of the United States and so I I do have clear-sighted view of what I'm

50:04 going to be doing in that position which is to make sure that we stay the hell out so what have I said is if Israel determines what it needs to in its own National self-defense to exist and I do believe Israel has the right to exist sure I actually believe it I believe the founding vision of Israel is a beautiful thing actually and I think it is fair this is not me as a human being not as a US president but I think it is correct that the Jewish people have one state dedicated to their Sanctuary place where they're able to go the aftermath of the Holocaust and otherwise to say this one little strip of land that in the Jewish religion was promised by God to Abraham that the Jewish people get to live there I think that that is reasonable I think that Israel has established that Nation on the premise that it has a right to defend itself to the fullest so my view is I'm not meddling in either direction

50:58 Israel has the right to defend itself further I would even go so far as the US is an ally of Israel and vice versa we provide diplomatic cover from the UN or anybody else intervening and getting in the way but we stay the heck out and let Israel get its own job of national self-defense done okay so that's where I'm I get your point so I'm with you on the we stay out but then it seems to me like a little bit of a contradiction between saying it like look it if I ask you about their treatment of the Palestinian people you're like well look I'm the American president I don't need to make proclamations about this but you are making proclamations about is the Israeli side and saying they have a right to exist well I think I think that we can open up a whole can of worms here which we can do briefly we can briefly do which is there's 22 Arab countries you know what is their responsibility to actually take on go with Egypt's

51:50 responsibilities go down that road but my point is as a policy maker that's not my it's not my job but it's not your job to compare it to Munich either and so my point is I would well no no no but but you look at what I actually said I said if Israel decide that's what it wants to do we're not going to get in their way I'm not making recommendations to Israel okay these are questions for Israel to decide and I'm not going to get in their way that's exactly what I've said okay fine but then I I guess it leads to the question in my mind that when we say Israel has a right to exist but like and defend themselves then people will is the question well do the Palestinians have a right to exist and to defend themselves and in a sense one could argue that if you're talking about hey if Israel decides to go Munich well then hey you know we're not what does going Munich mean to be clear is actually a

52:40 far more contained version than involving the deaths of civilians that's a targeted operation for the individuals who are responsible for a killing right so even if you're thinking about does it involves the death of innocent civilians but my my question I mean there's bombings are one track and assassinations of of the leaders of Hamas are another right yeah yes fair enough um but I guess it's just in a sense people wonder it's like well if Israel has a right to do whatever they want in response then isn't that kind of the same justification that the people who are celebrating the Hamas attack are using saying hey we're under siege here we have a right to do whatever we can to respond now I don't agree with that I think that killing innocent people is wrong whenever you do it um and so I think we have international now we get into the territory of having a limited domain of international law for a reason

53:31 right so so there's international law there are bodies that are limited set up I I'm I'm a i reject a lot of the premise of the un's expansionism or otherwise but in the limited context we have treaty based international law and we measure the actions of Nations defending themselves against that international law but I'm not as US president the chair of the international court of justice or whatever right and so I come back to the point that I believe that that if there's a range of options that Israel wants to pursue for its own National self-defense that's Israel's call to make not ours I like you have some concerns sure that Israel itself is not even going to be successful in accomplishing its own objectives with a prolonged ground invasion in Gaza which may risk making some of the same mistakes we've made in our own country in the aftermath of 9/11 I have concerns that this idea of eliminating Hamas is not really coherent

54:27 when you think of Hamas itself as an outgrowth of what the Palestinian people elected so this gets complicated quickly but it's not our job to be adjudicating this so that's what I say and so I think that that is a deeply pro-israel Israel friendly view not all people who consider themselves pro-israel agree with me on that sure but that's okay I'm not running to be president of Israel it's a reasonable debate to be had whether that's a pro-israel view or not I think it is but I'm running for president of the United States and all I would say is that I think a sensible approach for Israel to pursue they don't require my permission on this they don't require us or un or EU permission on this but I think a sensible approach could be as I laid out aggressively take out the top 100 in Hamas which was responsible for committing that atrocity and achieves a deterrent effect for the future use the

55:23 resources saved from abroader war and actually achieving border security which was badly missing in this instance I think that could actually be a very sensible way for Israel to go but my opinion need not matter in that dispute that's Israel's decision to make not ours and I think that that represents both David respects both David Ben grian's founding view for Israel but more importantly for me respects George Washington's 1796 view that we should not intervene in foreign conflicts that don't Direct ly relate to the American interest while respecting our allies diplomatically and providing them the Diplomatic support to do what they need to do yeah so that I completely agree with and and to be honest I think if we had had uh a series of presidents who had that position over the last 50 years I think the situation would be much much better over there for everyone for everyone involved for for everybody

56:14 exactly all right listen Before I Let You Go I want to completely switch gears because there's just one more topic that I wanted to get your take on because I know you were kind of one of the leading um advocates for the release of this transgender uh Mass Shooters Manifesto that evidently just uh just came out this was months ago when was this that this happened it was quite a while ago I mean this was like early this year and and then I went in in uh the spring of this year or in the early summer to say why the heck haven't they done what they do in every one of these cases which is release it within hours always they always put the manifesto out right away there's this one mass shooting of a transgender uh individual who killed a bunch of people and then committed suicide scho at a Christian School the um the it was one of the strangest reactions by the corporate press because they almost immediately pivoted to like

57:07 transphobia yep and almost like I I don't want to overstate it but we're almost kind of at least siging with this this shooter like not that they were agreeing with what the shooter did but they were kind of I can I can tell you specifically how they did because they they they were covering the protests at the State Legislature where people showed up and and cited the number of victims and it was not only the number of people that had been killed but also the shooter who themselves was shot in the middle of the Rampage as a victim of that day right and so that was that became part of the narrative yeah that's right right so so absolutely they were siding in part with this perpetrator yeah and I do I I do want to preface this by saying I do not uh get into the game of blaming any um political ideology for a crazy person doing something in the name of that political ideology that's ridiculous like I think

58:00 we should abolish the the IRS I talk about it all the time but if someone goes and shoots up a whole bunch of IRS agents and they're like I listen to Dave's podcast I don't think I'm responsible for that I never advocated anyone do anything violent or something and so this happens all Advocate they not that they not do it yes yes let me be clear especially any any help I advocate you do not I advocate you do not uh uh use violence against any government officials or private individuals um but there it's clear why this one was downplayed because the corporate press will use those tactics anytime they can paint someone as a right-winger even if they're not they will blame Fox News and right-wing commentators for this violence that's happening if you haven't seen the manifesto the the long of the short is that it was clearly it was all woke I'm going to get rid of of these cisgender white people and blah blah blah and all

58:57 that type of stuff I think he used the word crackers in there a couple of times yeah so I think it's interesting what my number one takeaway from it is I mean this is like a deranged person psychiatrically ill so I like you don't want to make the same mistake that the other side makes by pouncing on the particulars here of blaming somebody who also said the same things but they say they're responsible I don't want to do that but what I will make is a more basic observation there's nothing in here that should have stopped them from releasing it right okay and I know this because I went to Nashville to call for the public release I just think a government that tells the truth to its people is a precondition for having trust in a society okay and what I was told was no no no it's not what you think there's some there's some things in there that really shouldn't be released to the public like like sort of a like like

59:51 there's something else as though there's like detailed plans that somebody else could act on and execute like it was nobody told me that expressly but from the Ambiance amongst the police to people who were affiliated with the school and otherwise it was like no no no trust us we've seen it and there's something in there you just it's not good to have this released I didn't believe them at the time because I'm over people making those kinds of arguments to me but there might have been a phase in my life where I did and I think there's a lot of other people who would now that we see it released there's nothing in there that would have created a clear and present danger to anybody else it was just political defense and that fact itself and I don't know the circumstances by which it was released my sense is it was leaked not that it was a formal release so you may know more about the facts of this than

1:00:38 me but the fact that they tried not to release it as I think the most damning thing about it because it's one thing I still am an absolutist on government transparency would generally come up on the side of saying release it anyway we can handle the hard truth but let's say it contains something in there about some other person or Target which then puts some other individual at a home address that's doxed and danger in My Views you can always redact these things but at least let's say it was that then I would understand that's what the people were thinking about when they said that they didn't want this released none of that's in there it's literally just political driil against you know against cisgender white people and they were clearly protecting that narrative when they were trying to squat on this and claim some sort of security clear and present danger Vibes as their basis for doing it which was a lie and I say

1:01:24 that somebody who went to Nashville and got those vibes as the reason why I shouldn't call for this that's disgusting and I think that it's bad when Republicans do it it's bad when Democrats do it and and I see in some ways the post 911 you know D Nick Dick Cheney neocon view is now accepted by the left of accepting sort of what the government can and tell its people and it's become kind of a bipartisan consensus that I think is a real danger to our Republic and this was just the latest simp sympatic example of it that we saw in action yeah no I completely agree with all of that all right V ramaswami always a pleasure talking to you what do you got coming up next and where can people go uh support you yeah so you know people go to

1:02:25 World War I no to neons.org and get that going between now and December 7th and we will send a powerful message by December 7th which is to say the date we enter World War II we will not be entering World War III that's the message we want to send so no to neons.org the job done all right I love it thank you very much uh once again and and open door anytime you want to come back on I love these conversations and thanks everybody for listening we'll catch you next time peace

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