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He Built an 8-Figure Protein Empire With No Investors | Blake Niemann
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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "He Built an 8-Figure Protein Empire With No Investors | Blake Niemann", an episode of Founder's Story published November 21, 2025 (27 min, about 5,456 words). It mentions 6 people, works and ideas, including Levels, Amazon, Costco, Artificial Intelligence, hot dog.
What this episode is about
Blake Niemann shares his journey of building a successful eight-figure protein supplement company without outside investment, emphasizing the importance of creating a brand that resonates with consumers and looks inviting, rather than synthetic. Starting with only $10,000 and a commitment to refining his product through customer feedback, Niemann's decade-long effort underscores the significance of perseverance and a customer-focused approach in entrepreneurship.
Key takeaways
- Transforming supplement branding: from synthetic eyesores to food-like appeal, proving aesthetics matter in consumer choices.
- Bootstrapping isn't a sprint—it's a marathon, and success takes a solid decade of grit and refinement.
- Amidst an industry obsessed with trends, stability in protein reigns supreme; consumers crave quality over the latest fad.
- Customer feedback isn't just data—it's the blueprint for success, building brands block by block through genuine insights.
- With an innovative mindset, a $10K startup can stand tall, challenging corporate giants and redefining market standards.
Who speaks in this episode?
- Blake Niemann (Guest) · 22 min speaking
- Unknown Host (Host) · 5 min speaking
What is discussed, and when
Notable quotes from "He Built an 8-Figure Protein Empire With No Investors | Blake Niemann"
Dairy? Why don't we make it look like a food? And that was the thesis. had about 10 grand in cash and I launched it from there and kind of built it brick by brick over a decade.
about Levels · atCostco Walmart Target Kroger's HBS you name it. and we're the number five whey protein on Amazon overall in the entire category against even conglomerate incumbents. So,.
about Costco · atWe, we launched the product through customer reviews on Amazon. We found out what they liked, they didn't every little detail and refined. and.
about Amazon · atIt's you got to spend your time researching. There's a ton of tools like you mentioned today like with AI that just I mean we use fanatically here to help get our thinking around things.
about Artificial Intelligence · atI would either just do something like small to get experience like maybe sell hot dogs out of a hot dog. I use this analogy all the time, but like there's nothing beneath you to sell hot dogs.
about hot dog · atSure. You can find us at levelssproin.com. you can find us on Amazon in your local Walmart, Target, Costco, Vitamin Shop, regional grocerers like HB, Wegman's Meyer, almost anywhere in the country. and.
about Vitamin Shop · at
Who and what is mentioned in this episode?
Companies & orgs
- Levels — Company · Business focus · 4 mentions · first at
Primary company discussed, focusing on its founding, growth, and business strategies in the supplement industry. - Amazon — Company · Case study · 5 mentions · first at
Discussed as a key platform for Levels' initial growth and sales strategy. - Costco — Company · Case study · 6 mentions · first at
Referenced as a major retailer carrying Levels' products and part of the company's distribution strategy. - Vitamin Shop — Company · Case study · 1 mention · first at
Noted as a retailer carrying Levels' products.
Concepts & topics
- Artificial Intelligence — Concept · Strategy · 1 mention · first at
Mentioned as a tool used by Levels to enhance business operations and decision-making. - hot dog — Concept · Key argument · 5 mentions · first at
Used as an analogy for entrepreneurship and starting small in business.
Full transcript with timestamps
not only are you successful, but you're really creating a movement. I was trying to figure out exactly kind of how to, you know, make my mark in the world. And I was looking at the supplement set digitally and I was like, why does everything look black and synthetic and like bro meattheady like pharmaceutical creams and artificials like this is dairy? Why don't we make it look like a food? And uh that was the thesis. had about 10 grand in cash and uh I launched it from there and kind of built it brick by brick over a decade.
I mean to be number five on Amazon, you've just put something up and it sells. Yeah, we launched the product through customer reviews on Amazon. We found out what they liked, they didn't like, you know, every little detail and refined and refined and it was built review by review and I didn't leave my full-time job till the company was generating I think like $3 million in revenue and taking the the kind of mental stance that success isn't overnight. It's a decade.
So Blake, you have an amazing story and I always like when people come on who have bootstrapped their way to success and have really been in the trenches, been through the mud, but came out the other end. And now you not only are you successful, but you're really creating a movement in an industry that I have personally been in and I've loved since I was probably 14 years old. Um, taking supplements. Actually studied in in I took a few classes in college, about physiology, so I could learn more about supplementation. U, but I want to go back to when you started in your New Jersey apartment, your Jersey City apartment. what was going through your mind in that moment when you decide to start Levels?
Uh, yeah, sure. So, I appreciate you having me on and um yeah, in 2016 when I founded the company um in my apartment um I had a I've been kind of tinkering around with ideas. I was always sort of a kind of a hustler and entrepreneur growing up. I was I was a techie. I wasn't into fitness or I was into fitness but now I wasn't an athlete. Like I went to the gym and then played video games. So, I grew up with like the dawn of the 486, you know, broadband um so forth. So, when I was younger, I built computers and built websites for like small businesses and uh was really always trying to make product and sell things. So, uh it was pretty pretty ingrained with me early on and also had a strong work ethic, but I was trying to figure out exactly kind of how to, you know, make my mark in the world. And so, you know, like I had said, I was going to the gym and I was consuming protein and I started just researching the
category protein powders, particularly whey protein. I mean, whey protein sits in the sports nutrition category. Um, and it's always been the, for lack of a better way to say, like the king of the category, like out of all the supplements, it was the triedand-true. It was the biggest, but in 2016, everything that was there was a lot of things happening in natural and organic foods. uh that was seeping into the grocery ecosystem where you know even companies like Costco were bringing more organics and more natural and I was looking at the supplement set digitally and I was like why does everything look black and synthetic and like bro meatthead heavy like pharmaceutical uh neons and ice creams and artificials like this is dairy why don't we make it look like a food a natural food um so that was sort of the thesis is like I'm going to make this look like dairy like a bottle of milk would um with an
infusion of like sports nutrition in branding and um the category was so big and but it was super sleepy like everyone in supplements was is usually focused on um the new shiny thing. So if there's a new supplement comes out everyone's like I want to make greens. I want to make creatine and so at that time it was big but everyone's eyes were focused on something else. So, I uh was like, "Hey, I'm going to make a product that's affordable for the American consumer, but feels premium. I'm going to formulate it with the least amount of ingredients and also make sure all those ingredients are natural. And even if I won't even put ingredients that are natural that sound artificial, like for example, Zantham gum, which is a natural ingredient, just not going to put it in there. And I'll launch it online and test it digitally to see if like there is product market fit to, you know, if the consumers want this. And uh that was
the thesis. I had about 10 grand in cash. Um and uh I launched it from there and kind of built it brick by break over a decade. And um I bootstrapped it the whole way until today. I mean I've never taken venture money or private equity. Um and now we are the preeminent protein brand in the United States. Um we have distribution in every major retailer. Costco Walmart Target Kroger's HBS you know, you name it. Um, and we're the number five whey protein on Amazon overall in the entire category against even conglomerate incumbents. So, uh, that was kind of the beginning and the thesis to start it. It just was, uh, it was a it was a shot at, you know, trying to build a business.
That was I mean, that's amazing. Like you're saying, you you went with a mass product, you made it better, but when you do a mass product, the competition is fierce because they have ginormous budgets. And it's funny when you talk about the supplement industry, how everyone goes to the shiny new object. Because I've seen that over the last 20 some odd years of just taking supplements and it's like, oh wow, this new thing, and then next week it's like, oh, now there's a new thing and now there's a new molecule. I don't even know if any of them even work, right?
Um, so that's fascinating though of how you really focused and honed in on on protein just being how big protein was, but how crowded it could be. Now, let's talk through what was your strategies because you had these giants that you were facing. I mean, to be number five on Amazon, we've been I' I've sold on Amazon since about 2012. It is hard. People don't realize how hard you don't just put something up and it sells. It doesn't work that way. So to get to that point, I mean, that's massive. And the retailers, so the fact that you didn't have to take outside funding, you started with 10,000. How did you compete with these giants?
Um, honestly, great product. It I know it sounds crazy. So, you know, my personal belief when I founded, I still had a full-time job. Um, I was working high-tech and I didn't leave the my full-time job till the company was generating, I think, like $3 million in revenue. So, I was doing it solo till we were generating a couple million in revenue. Um, but we did it organically. Uh, we, you know, we launched the product through customer reviews on Amazon. We found out what they liked, they didn't like, you know, every little detail and refined and refined. Um, and it was built review by review. Um, and to be honest, like people think I'm lying, but we didn't even spend money on paid ads till we did like three million in revenue. It was just organic snowball growth off of um, reviews. And Amazon's ecosystem is like the more reviews you have, the more sales you have, but you have to get more sales to get more
reviews. So, the beginning is very slow, but then it starts to snowball. And I would take screenshots like on new milestones like early in the days like we did $7,000 this week and like I've I've saved those and now we're like we're doing millions of dollars a week. We just took that approach and we were really thoughtful about you know doing it like brick by brick and investing for the long haul if you will um and not um and and taking the the kind of mental stance that success isn't overnight. It's a decade. Uh and that's really where we succeed as a brand. We're we're maniacally focused on our flagship product, our whey protein brand. And that focus started really really early and I think that was part of the success. So it was just organic to answer your question.
Some of the most successful people we've talked to use that word maniacal. So when you went, it sounds like you started heavy on digital online e-commerce and then you went into retail stores. That is a whole another thing in itself. I mean, retail can make or break companies. In my experience, and talking to enough people, we've heard people go on Shark Tank, it's great. It actually destroyed their company because they couldn't afford to then get the inventory and uh it didn't sell in in Walmart, so Walmart shipped it back. I mean, I've heard I've heard nightmare stories as well as of course great stories, but how was that process when you went into retail or retailers? and what lesson did you learn about that process?
Yeah, a good question. Um, we we waited a pretty long time. So, we almost waited six to seven years into the company's history to even go into physical retail. Now, we did that one because uh I was a little riskadverse because I was doing I was bootstrapping and also like we were making good money. I was like pretty happy with what we were doing. But also to go to that next phase, you got to have everything really in place. Like do you have the supply chain? Do you have the the manufacturing? Do you have the right person to lead your sales organization? So I just when the time was in like right where I felt it was right, that's when we made the move. But you're right, the physical retail world is highly complex um and much different than digital. Both of them have their pros and cons. Um physical gives you, you know, a massive amount of distribution points um and can take your brand to the next level. But definitely
the the the thing you need to be able to have is enough cash to invest in those retailers out of the outset. So you should try to be profitable day one or call it month one. Um, but you need to be able to really invest at in that retailer to drive velocity and success. If that's couponing, if that's discounts once a quarter, if that's, you know, offshelves and experiential or whatever else because you need to succeed there and you need to get trial going with consumers at that specific retailer so that you stay in. So you need to have an arsenal of cash. And the way we did it is, you know, we were profitable at every every retailer, but we had this huge portion of our business was already digital and really tried and true. And so that part of the business was funding the new part of the business, if you will, for lack of a better way of saying it. And so you you really need that to make sure you have the cash, but also
like you've really proven out the product. Like I don't I think if you launch digitally like you need a couple years. It might not have to be seven but three maybe five. Like really get the company in a sophisticated place before taking the next stages. I think if you're not a perishable food if if it doesn't have to be refrigerated and you can make the economics work, I would always start digital. like it's just an easier route to market to figure out what like if the customer even wants your product first and then two like to refine your business before going to the next stage because the next stage is you know the hardest stage um out of out of everything you know it's it's scaling and hyperscaling
I remember doing Costco road shows all across the US fond memories like we'd see like the ladder guy and then we'd see like you know the the mixer guy or person and we'd be we'd all be traveling across the and we have like the megaphone like trying to sell uh the it was skincare at that time but it just brings up fond memories. Um so you you said you sidehustled this company to three million before you even left your job which I love that. I I think that that's amazing. And do you feel that most entrepreneurs probably should do that when they get into business? And do you feel like that might lower the risk than just going allin?
Yeah, for sure. Like I I think you should definitely hedge your risk. Like building a business overall is about hedging risks and your personal income is a risk. And so if you can pull it off, do it. And the the fact is is like you're going to have to suck it up. like just well I don't want to work. So like you you literally have to work as hard as you can to make it to make it happen. And so you might have to work 40 hours a week at a regular job and then another 40 hours a week building what you're building. Um but the you know everything has its pros and cons and if you want to build a business and if you want to succeed you got to put in the effort and you got to put in the effort that the top 10 25 one% of the people in the country do. like it just takes it takes moving mountains and it's just unfortunately social media makes it feel like it's overnight and um it should be easy and it shouldn't it should be
extremely painful. It should be um it should test your resiliency um and if it was easy everyone would do it. So you have to you have to kind of build the mental state um like your back is against the wall. Either it is like most folks move move better or make better decisions when their backs are against the wall. Either in reality like financially their backs are against the wall or they create artificial walls for themsel and and say like if I don't do this like everything's over. And so you have to create this sort of mental place where it's all or nothing. Um and so by having a job at the same time like you're hedging your income risk to make sure you figure it out first. Um, so I was able to accomplish it. Also, the role that I was in, I was in high-tech sales, so like it lent to the ability to do what I needed to do. Um, if you know anything about high-tech sales, like every high-tech saleserson since the
1980s has been a remote salesperson, so like I had flexibility in my days. Now, clearly I was in sales, so like if I wasn't doing my job, I would have got fired and also would have made no money because sales is all about how much you're selling, right? So, um, you you just got to put yourself in a position where you can do both. And then I would say one, you'll know when you know to be like, I can walk away from my job and do this now. Um, and that's kind of how I did it. I know I know it sounds it was quite painful. Um, but that was the mental state like of how I was approaching it, if you will.
So, you're saying I can't make a course and then work 10 hours a week and buy my Lamborghini. It's probably not gonna happen. But yeah. Oh my god.
I'm like when I when I see that when I see that I'm like this is this is insane. This is fantasy. You know
where how does everyone have a Lamborghini? 1% of the population has a Lamborghini. Now everyone on social media has a Lamborghini. So
they all have and it's always the same looking Lamborghini. I think they're renting the same one. But for you No, I I love that because you like you said you got to be that 1%. I mean because I imagine nowadays it's almost like competition becomes the barrier of entry of a lot of things now with AI and and outsourcing and you could do a lot of things. I think the barrier of entry goes down for some things some some places. So your competition then goes up.
So if you're not willing to outpace those that competition then that competition will essentially I guess outpace you. You talked about, you know, people having their backs against the wall and having to make these decisions in that moment. What about for you? Was there a hard lesson that you learned or was there a moment where you were like, you know what, screw this, I'm going to give up?
Well, prior to this, like I, you know, I had some things prior to levels like I was tinkering with things that didn't really work and I learned lessons from those. They weren't nearly as big and they didn't like they weren't big enough for like the failure was cataclysmic, but it was enough to be to put myself in a mental stage. I don't, you know, I I I basically I remember the moment because I was watching Jack Dorsey run Twitter and Square Payments. I was like, how is this guy running two companies and I can't run one? Like that's not clearly he's not any better than I am. So I said to myself, I don't care if it takes till I'm 80. I'll figure I'm going to figure something out and make it work. So if it wasn't what I'm doing now, like if that had failed, I would have fig tried another thing and tried another thing.
Now it doesn't mean you can't be smart about what you're doing. You got to be sharp. It's good to have sharp mentors. It's uh you got to spend your time researching. There's a ton of tools like you mentioned today like with AI that just I mean we use fanatically here uh to help get our thinking around things. I didn't have at the time. So there's just more opportunity now than ever. People there's a lot of people saying well AI is like ruining opportunity. I actually think like the opposite. There's so much opportunity. Um, and there's so much opportunity in the United States to build something. If it's, you know, an HVAC company to like a hot dog cart conglomerate to a levels whey protein brand, there's just you can do anything here. It's it's not impossible. And the tools uh exist to do it now. It's in such a way that um the speed to build a business plan with just your thinking and your voice in say
chatbt or other like you could build a business plan in probably you know 30 minutes. Um you know it it's it's incredible. So I think um you have to create that that moment in your head where like I don't care how long it takes. It could take a 100red years.
I love that. Yeah. People are stuck on the I want to build it and exit in 345 days and then I'm going to retire. Um, so I was just in Europe and I always like to go to supplement stores when I'm in Europe because I feel like they're very strict when it comes to the supplements they have here, which kind of reminds you like what you're saying if there's a lot of ingredients in the US that aren't even allowed, let's say, in Europe or other countries. Um, with that being said, in the US, you mentioned early on about this hype.
There's all these hype ingredients or hype products. And I know there's a lack of regulations in the sense of you don't always know what's even in it. And I remember studies uh that would come out that said like there wasn't even what's said in it. Like they would test it and it wasn't even in it or they were even adding like anabolic steroids into products. Like the first batch would work but then they would remove it from the second batch. I remember all these companies that got in trouble for doing things like this. So how do you see this industry going? Obviously, there's companies like yours that are doing an amazing job at this. Do you think others see the success that you're having and say like, "Wow, maybe we should do this." Or are just the big players in this, they're just going to continue doing what they've been doing?
Yeah, I think there's there's you know, every industry is right for con artists and and um you know, um unethical ways of doing business, but you know, it's funny like there's some ingredients where in the United States, like monk fruit extract here, that's a natural ingredient. We use it. a it's a really great sweetener. Um and um like Canada doesn't allow like certain amounts of it. So sometimes like these other countries like don't allow certain natural ingredients in their own, but United States is more of the wild west.
I will agree. Um, yeah, I think um there's a lot of great um new ingredients that come out that are under trial and and and they're not um they're not pharmaceutical grade that are supplement ingredients that um that over time will probably come out to be um you know proven uh to what they're like claiming to be. And there's a lot of good guys in the industry that talk about this. Um the guys over at Price Plow um and others um who are really invested in making the industry better and talking about new um new ingredients and the efficacy of those ingredients.
But there's also plenty of ingredients and and supplements today that where like just marketing is added on that um you know so so folks can sell you know something at a higher price point. Um uh and I think a lot of the big conglomerates the their biggest issue is that they can't seem to get out of their own way um on making like simple decisions like our competitive brands you know they continue to keep artificial like artificial ingredients in their protein powders and I think it's just a corporate culture or the inability to move at the speed that we can move where they can't make these decisions and right now the American consumer consumer is yearning for clean ingredients. Not only minimal, like what's the least amount of ingredients you can put in this product for me, but also are they clean? Like are they, you know, are they food ingredients? You know, the most of the time we look at it
as like the, you know, the T's and C's of a contract today, the T's and C's uh that you have with the consumer is your ingredient statement. now. So, your your macros could be like you have a ton of protein and great calories and and so forth, but if if that ingredient statement reads really weird, um the consumer is just like, "No, I'll move to the next one." So, I think um I think big brands, big commerce are are getting better, but um there's reasons they can't do it fast enough. Uh or they won't because of, you know, cost or or whatever else.
That's a great thing, right? you can be nimble and they're like moving like the Titanic trying to make changes and they can't which is always I think a competitive advantage of a when I say smaller company like a not billion dollar company compared to like a publicly traded or billion-dollar company uh if you're sitting in front of a class right now of students and knowing how the future is knowing how things are going uh you know corporate jobs are possibly being displaced by technology. And I know you were in technology sales before. If you were sitting in front of this class and they looked at you and said, Blake, I think I want to be an entrepreneur. Like, I want to be an entrepreneur, but they're in college. What would you tell them?
Drop out of college today. And I I know that might scare some people, but I'd leave. I I think the advancements in AI plus the cost of college like negates the the ROI. I mean, I went to college um at the University of South Carolina and I studied supply chain management, which is a was a very lucrative degree at the time, but I have to tell you like all those theories and things I learned in supply chain management classes, I remembered zero until I, you know, was applicable work experience that taught me things. And so, I mean, even in sales, like I didn't learn sales in college, like I learned it from mentors and guys that have cut their teeth cold calling and and and um and so I would quit. I would drop out college and I would just start either working for an entrepreneur and say like listen especially the younger kids who know how to use AI. I I tell anybody here is if a high school kid walked in here and said
hey I can do I can prompt anything with AI. I can get a ton done for you. Will you hire I'll hire you today? I will hire you today. You don't need a college degree. Come in and help us. And so I would say you know for entrepreneurship it's all about resiliency and suffering and figuring it out. And I would either I would either just do something like small to get experience like maybe sell hot dogs out of a hot dog. I use this analogy all the time, but like there's nothing beneath you to sell hot dogs. Like figure out how the consumer thinks.
Figure out how you could sell them for more. How could you add like more a cuchamance to your hot dog to to sell a hot dog instead of $2 for $10, you know? um or go work for an entrepreneur. Even if it's a a guy running an HVAC company or or a lady running a PR company or um you know uh some uh some group that has a small finance fractional finance firm like go work for them and and just get involved at everything. I would say drop out of college. Um and I look at my kids and I'm like what? There's no way like I first of all I hear what people are paying for college. I'm like I'm never paying that. No way. No way am I paying that. I don't care how much money I have. That's absurd. Um and then um and then I'm thinking about the future and it's just the future is AI and ability to use technology and prompt um and so forth. It's just it is what it is.
Well, thank you Blake because I did drop out of college so you made me feel better about myself. So I I appreciate that. And I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure Costco made billions of dollars from hot dogs because a lot of when I was always there, people were always getting the hot dogs. Like that was I don't know. I don't think it is so much anymore, but you know, decades ago, I feel like that was a big draw for people. Funny enough, you say hot dogs because that's automatically when I see hot dog, I think of Costco because they do actually have really good hot dogs.
But man, this has been great. Uh did you want to you want to add something? No, I was just going to say like I think of Costco and I think of like Yankee Stadium outside Yankee Stadium. Um you know the the hot dog like if you ever seen the Tik Toks where people like it'll be a hot dog guy who runs a hot dog cart or a potato. There's one real famous one in England that he sells potatoes like baked potatoes and puts all these puchams on it. But I like I get absorbed by those because I'm watching these entrepreneurs like at their craft and uh it's all it is is hot dogs. But I'm like, you make you could make bank just selling hot dogs. You could like you could figure out how to make them fancy and and sell a ton of them, you know? So, in any case, I I love the hot dog analogy.
I'm going to go and chat GBT after this and I'm going to find out how it can make a hot dog stand. But that's I think that's the thing that when you somebody like yourself because I can tell you're like an idea sales guy like you've been you said you've been selling stuff before you it was even titled selling stuff. Like I was selling chocolate in like first grade, you know, expired expired candy that I would get from like the local chocolate place. Like it's always fun to talk to someone and say like what was the first things that you sold? But that person remains that hustler salesperson I think for the rest of their life and it really translates over. So maybe that's how you can see an entrepreneur before they're an entrepreneur. Just find out what they've been selling since they were a kid. But Blake, this has been great. If people want to get in touch with you, they want to find out more about Levels, maybe
they want to get Levels in their retail store, how can they do so? Sure. You can find us at levelssproin.com. Uh you can find us on Amazon in your local Walmart, Target, Costco, Vitamin Shop, uh regional grocerers like HB, Wegman's Meyer, um almost anywhere in the country. Um and if you can't find, you're looking for a store, you can go to our website again at levelssproin.com and go to our storefinder and you can find a local store near you. Man, I think not only you going to inspire people to be healthier through through, you know, high quality protein and supplements, but you're also going to inspire the next generation of entrepreneurs who are going to quit college. They're going to go out there. They're going to do hot dog stands. Hopefully, not all of them because there might be too many, but they're going to go out there and they're going to make dreams come true and they're going to make the freedom
for their life that I know all entrepreneurs want in the end, right? Uh but thank you so much for joining us today on Founders Story and I had a great conversation even before the conversation was great and then I knew this was going to be one of my favorites of 2025 I'm sure. But thanks again for joining us today on founder story.
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Blake Niemann shares his journey of building a successful eight-figure protein supplement company without outside investment, emphasizing the importance of creating a brand that resonates with consumers and looks inviting, rather than synthetic. Starting with only $10,000 and a commitment to refining his product through customer feedback, Niemann's decade-long effort underscores the significance…
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