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From Prison to Purpose: Peter Meyerhoff's Journey of Redemption

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "From Prison to Purpose: Peter Meyerhoff's Journey of Redemption", an episode of Home Service Expert published October 6, 2025 (48 min, about 13,192 words). It mentions 54 people, works and ideas, including Aryan Brotherhood, The Bible, Against All Odds, Roll Call with Chappie, Andre Norman.

What this episode is about

Peter Meyerhoff's journey from a troubled youth involved in crime and drugs to a transformed life of resilience and purpose highlights the power of redemption. After serving nearly a year in solitary confinement of a 12-year prison sentence, he became a best-selling author, motivational speaker, and entrepreneur, creating a sober clothing line and a prison curriculum app aimed at helping inmates reshape their futures.

Key takeaways

  • From chaos to community leader: Peter Meerhoff proves redemption isn't just a Hollywood tale.
  • Stealing a dream car and rebuilding dreams: Meerhoff trades Mercedes for motivation.
  • Solitary to solutions: Peter's story is an inspiring curriculum inmates can wear and share.
  • Childhood rebellion wasn't forever—now Peter's contagious energy lights up podcasts, not stolen cars.
  • Once jailed, now free-willed: Peter's on a mission, driving empowerment, not getaway cars.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Against All Odds, Aryan Brotherhood, Jordan, Mercedes-Benz dealership
  2. – 10:00: Attorney General, Malibu, State of Arizona, SuperMax
  3. – 20:00: Aryan Brotherhood, Border Brothers, U of A
  4. – 25:00: Chandler, Guadalupe, Hobnob, Kohl's
  5. – 30:00: Thomas, Vice TV
  6. – 35:00: 2-way investigation, fivepoint shackles, security housing unit, Selenus
  7. – 40:00: Daniel Golding, Echoes, Extreme Ownership, Fresno
  8. – 45:00: The Bible, A Man's Search for Meaning, Arcadia, Bible App
  9. – 47:49: Against All Odds, The Bible

Notable quotes from "From Prison to Purpose: Peter Meyerhoff's Journey of Redemption"

  • Home service expert. Today's going to be awesome. I got my boy Peter Meerhoff here. He wrote the book Against All Odds. he's a expert in motivational speaking, podcasting, and resilience.
    about Against All Odds · at
  • Black wife and that's crazy from an ex- dude that used to run your yards for the Aryan Brotherhood.
    about Aryan Brotherhood · at
  • They tell my mom. So, I still kind of have that mindset. I steal a Mercedes-Benz from the Mercedes-Benz dealership right here, brand new. still had plastic on the seats. This…
    about Mercedes-Benz dealership · at
  • Full circle now, it's just crazy how you can see like I just wanted [ __ ] that I couldn't afford. I took Jordan basketball shorts, Jordan sandals, and a snowboard and a drill.…
    about Jordan · at
  • Give me the same plea four to six to nine years, my dad had got me I had the attorney that ran for the attorney general for the state of Arizona and he lost the election right during my case.
    about Attorney General · at
  • Five kids had that all got seen. They went to this house in the daytime. So there it was a maroon Malibu had got seen and spotted by the neighbors. So I'm knowing if it goes to trial, like I was the only one I knew. I wore gloves.
    about Malibu · at
  • I got out of SuperMax under investigation for attempted murder.
    about SuperMax · at
  • And that's the ultimate to go through that. And more read more of the Bible. I want to show I got a book that every day it's a new scripture that I just read. And then there's the Bible app.
    about The Bible · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Andre Norman — Person · 2 mentions
  • Peter Meerhoff — Person · 1 mention · first at
    All right, guys. Welcome back to the home service expert. Today's going to be awesome. I got my boy Peter Meerhoff here. He wrote the book Against All Odds. he's a expert in motivational speaking, podcasting, and resilience.
  • Travis Hearn — Person · 1 mention · first at
    I started hanging out with Travis Hearn. If you get a chance, you need to go meet him at Impact Church.
  • Daniel Golding — Person · 1 mention · first at
    I would love I've been I've only been to two churches. Been at Impact and then I go to Echoes with Daniel Golding out there now, too. But yeah. And dude, I'm gonna start like I…
  • Paul Kelly Keegan — Person · 1 mention · first at
    Kicking it with guys that know the like the serve time like you and then Keegan came out his dad had a small business, electric business. Well, Keegan learned how to do HVAC in…
  • Peter Myerhoff — Person · 1 mention · first at
  • Jocko — Person · 1 mention

Books & papers

  • The Bible — Book · 3 mentions · first at
  • Against All Odds — Book · 2 mentions · first at
  • Extreme Ownership — Book · 1 mention · first at
    And Navy Seals all wolf packs. I spent some time with Jaco Extreme Ownership and dude, he's soft when you're with him. He lives this David Gogggins kind of hard. I'm not going…
  • A Man's Search for Meaning — Book · 1 mention · first at
    I'll tell you, there's a great book you need to throw on the top of your list. It's called A Man's Search for Meaning.
  • Bible — Book · 1 mention

Companies & orgs

  • Aryan Brotherhood — Company · 3 mentions · first at
  • Ro Roll Call with Chappie — Company · 1 mention · first at
    He's based out of LA. The podcaster is called Ro Roll Call with Chappie and he's like I said, the author of Against All Odds. He's got an incredible story, and we're going to be go over it going over it. At 15 years old, Peter.
  • Mercedes-Benz dealership — Company · 1 mention · first at
  • Attorney General — Company · 1 mention · first at
  • Border Brothers — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Glendo so big Glendo has their own racing gang in prisons now too. And then you got the Pisas and the Border Brothers for the for them which we were at complete war with in the prison before I left. Like literally full on war.
  • U of A — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Drinking promethazine with coding on the yard, smoking blunts in a on a forard in the morning. Just it was like U of A to me, bro. That's why I said that was my taste of…
  • Sandbar — Company · 1 mention · first at
    I used to I opened that sandbar.
  • Hobnob — Company · 1 mention · first at
    And one of my youngsters from the joint literally hit me up in Guadalupe. I drove my truck from Hobnob right there in Chandler to Guadalupe. Blacked out drunk. Don't remember…
  • Kohl's — Company · 1 mention · first at
    My dad sent me back here with five pairs of khakis, buy one get one free at Kohl's, five dress shirts, buy one get one free. And I had to pay him back my first paycheck and made 10 grand my first month ever working selling cars.
  • Vice TV — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Know for a fact I'm not meant to do this. had no idea what I was going to do except a Vice TV producer had reached out to me and if you ever seen that show I was a teenage fell…
  • SSU staff — Company · 1 mention · first at
    Su who's like the gang detectives in there. If you get booked on anything in prison is from the SSU staff, right? So once we find out this guy survived and everything, now I'm like now I'm All right, this investigation is up.
  • Impact Church — Company · 1 mention · first at
    I started hanging out with Travis Hearn. If you get a chance, you need to go meet him at Impact Church.
  • Echoes — Company · 1 mention · first at
    I would love I've been I've only been to two churches. Been at Impact and then I go to Echoes with Daniel Golding out there now, too. But yeah. And dude, I'm gonna start like I…
  • AMCO — Company · 1 mention
  • Mexican Mafia — Company · 1 mention
  • Pisas — Company · 1 mention
  • Surenos — Company · 1 mention

Products & tech

  • Roll Call with Chappie — Product · 2 mentions · first at
    He's based out of LA. The podcaster is called Ro Roll Call with Chappie and he's like I said, the author of Against All Odds. He's got an incredible story, and we're going to be go over it going over it. At 15 years old, Peter.
  • LoJack — Product · 2 mentions
  • Jordan — Product · 1 mention · first at
  • Malibu — Product · 1 mention · first at
  • Bible App — Product · 1 mention · first at
    That every day it's a new scripture that I just read. And then there's the Bible app.
  • peter_myerhoff — Product · 1 mention · first at
  • petermyhoff.com — Product · 1 mention · first at
  • Infiniti G20 — Product · 1 mention
  • promethazine with codeine — Product · 1 mention

Concepts & topics

  • SuperMax — Concept · 1 mention · first at
  • 2-way investigation — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    The investigation is supposed to be for 30 days. It's called a 2-way investigation right?
  • fivepoint shackles — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    And my release, dude, I was released in fivepoint shackles walking to my release cage. Like with all the release guys walking their own thing. I was separate with five point shackles completely walking in there. And you.
  • security housing unit — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    I went that's a for it's it's it's called a direct out from the shoe. So anybody that comes from security housing unit which is super max goes directly there. It's your first…
  • super max — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Called a direct out from the shoe. So anybody that comes from security housing unit which is super max goes directly there. It's your first yard ever out of the shoe. And if…
  • Gone in 60 Seconds — Concept · 1 mention
  • I Was a Teenage Felon — Concept · 1 mention
  • May 2005 — Concept · 1 mention

Places & events

  • State of Arizona — Place · 1 mention · first at
    Nine years, my dad had got me I had the attorney that ran for the attorney general for the state of Arizona and he lost the election right during my case.
  • Guadalupe — Place · 1 mention · first at
    And one of my youngsters from the joint literally hit me up in Guadalupe. I drove my truck from Hobnob right there in Chandler to Guadalupe. Blacked out drunk. Don't remember driving it. and wake up in an ambulance 9 months out of.
  • Chandler — Place · 1 mention · first at
    Literally hit me up in Guadalupe. I drove my truck from Hobnob right there in Chandler to Guadalupe. Blacked out drunk. Don't remember driving it. and wake up in an ambulance 9…
  • Thomas — Place · 1 mention · first at
    So, you go into cars. My dad used to run Amco on Scottdale and Thomas. He owned a transmission shop before that. I grew up at auto shops. Dope.
  • Selenus — Place · 1 mention · first at
    Dude, where do you want to go next? I was What's a higher security prison than this? He's like Selenus.
  • Fresno — Place · 1 mention · first at
    Part. A lot of people believe that's a lot of money. My buddy that lives in Fresno, his average ticket in HVAC is 38,000. Average ticket.
  • Arcadia — Place · 1 mention · first at
    Yeah. Yeah. I was with a buddy yesterday in this room and he sold his house in Paradise Valley or in Arcadia and he sold his house in Canada and he just lives he's been to 70…
  • Ahwatukee — Place · 1 mention

Full transcript with timestamps

All right, guys. Welcome back to the home service expert. Today's going to be awesome. I got my boy Peter Meerhoff here. He wrote the book Against All Odds. Uh he's a expert in motivational speaking, podcasting, and resilience. He's based out of LA. The podcaster is called Ro Roll Call with Chappie and he's uh like I said, the author of Against All Odds. He's got an incredible story, and we're going to be go over it uh going over it. At 15 years old, Peter became involved in a life crime and drugs. At 18 years old, he was sentenced to 12 years in prison and ultimately spent nearly a year in solitary confinement. But since his release, Peter turned his life around. He's become a best-selling author, motivational speaker, podcaster, and entrepreneur. He currently runs a sober clothing line and has also created a prison curriculum app that helps inmates transform their futures. Peter's story

is about resilience, redemption, and refusing to make excuses. Today, he's not just an advocate for change. He's living proof proof of what's possible when you can turn pain into purpose. Hey, it's a pleasure to have you, my friend.

I appreciate that. The only mixup is I'm based out of Arizona, not LA. Oh, you're you are in Arizona.

People think that cuz I do so much stuff out in LA and I'm always like I'm going out there next week. I'm out there every month.

Yeah, cuz you're in Queen Creek, right? Yep. Queen Creek just built a house out there last month with my beautiful black wife and that's crazy from an ex- dude that used to run your yards for the Aryan Brotherhood.

Wow. We got a lot to talk about, man. Tell us uh tell us, you know, about your story, where you're at today, where you're looking forward to going.

Yeah. Um if you want to get into the back story of like how I got there, you know, I was uh I said I had a good as a kid, but I just I realized now that I have kids that I just like blocked all the bad stuff out of my childhood. So I don't have too many memories but like my parents I live lived in a culde-sac so it was cool till they were 10 years till I was about 10. My dad was a drug addict alcoholic. My mom left him when we were 10. And that's when the trouble started. I went to go live with a single mother who was a flight attendant. So four or five nights a week I was home alone. And you know when you're in middle school if if your mom's not there to wake up make you go to school you going to go to school?

No. Usually not you know. So I usually would have attendance about one or two days a week at school and started going down the bad path. So anyways I got go to prison at 12 years old. Want to know how I went to prison? at 12.

I mean 18 years old for 12 years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I want to know.

I end up So when did you drop out? You were freshman year. Oh, so you're like I never made it to a semester high school 15.

Yeah. Never made it to a semester of high school. I got probably two or three months of high school.

So you have four years of your life just chilling doing drugs off. Doing drugs and off and getting arrested. And the thing is I would always get arrested for stupid dumb [ __ ] though. When you're a kid you could do anything. Like literally like there's been multiple times like they were the cops were on there telling my mom like come pick your kid up. She's like, "I'm not picking him up. He needs to go to jail." I'm like, "We can't. He's a juvenile, man." You know, that's what they tell my mom. So, I still kind of have that mindset. I steal a Mercedes-Benz from the Mercedes-Benz dealership right here, brand new. Like, still had plastic on the seats. This is back when gone 60 seconds came out. So, they were like, "Those they're unsteel.

They have the red laser cut keys." And I'm just like, "That's all we did. We guard all night." And like I' I've been the first to believe I was not no big time dude on the streets. I was a little petty [ __ ] thief. Like literally, that's all I did. We'd go around and it's embarrassing even saying the [ __ ] I did now, you know? Like we go around just stealing [ __ ] all night long, you know, like with bull cutters and stuff. So, that's what I did. stolen Mercedes-Benz there. I get arrested. Lowjack had just came out. Didn't know nothing about Lowjack, you know? So, I get surrounded 2 hours later and um I get 3 months jail and probation now, right? Even then, I'm like thinking, damn, I just robbed a Mercedes. I only got three months jail. You know what I'm saying? Like, and now like the fear of jail's gone for me. You know what I'm saying? Cuz I always had that fear in the back of my head. Like, we don't know

what jail or prison is really like. You know what I'm saying? Now I've been to jail. It sucks, but it's not that scary. You know what I'm saying? And I only got 3 months.

It's not like the deep prison. Yeah. No. And it's Yeah. Yeah. And I was on minimum security [ __ ] so it's nothing gangster yet. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, and then I'm like, now that's all gone for me. And I only got 3 months for stealing Mercedes-Benz. You know, I'll just be a little more careful this time or whatever, you know? And spring break, which should have been my senior year of high school, my brother and his friends come back. What's crazy is I went to prison for burglarizing a house that was already burglarized. And whose house it was? It was my best friend that didn't stand up for me, which is why we did it. So coming full circle, right? So 4 years later now it's spring break and they're the most spoiled rotten rich kids and all about two. They have like a 15,000 foot house out there and um they're in Hawaii. My brother and his friends come back and just had a bunch of [ __ ] and they're

like we just burged the Nelson's house. We're like where are they at? Like they're in Hawaii. And I'm like oh [ __ ] they do go to Hawaii every spring break. Like so no one's there. Like yeah no one's there. We're like so like I'm just keep on loan like when my brother's friends leave cuz they drink so they're going to pass out at 2 or 3 in the morning. Me and my buddies we don't sleep. We're on drugs you know. So when they go to sleep, then we go back to the house cuz that was the only deal. Like do not go back to the house. We're like no, we won't, you know? So go back there. I know where the house is. The back door's open. I don't even make it out of the garage, bro. Like I was going to take just stupid stuff. And coming full circle now, it's just crazy how you can see like I just wanted [ __ ] that I couldn't afford. You know, I took Jordan basketball shorts, Jordan sandals, and a snowboard and a drill. You know what I'm

saying? Like and now it's like it's such a like my kid wears Jordan [ __ ] every single day now. You know what I'm saying? Because I can never wear that [ __ ] as a kid. And it feels so good just little [ __ ] just seeing my kid come up to me. You're wearing George and I'm like, "Dude, it's it's now it's cool to see the life I get to race with my kids because what I got two little babies now."

Um, so anyways, um, we do that. I don't make it out of the garage. My buddies come and they take all the jewelry upstairs. And we get home and he pulls out this bag of jewelry, man. And it's like a bag of jewelry, $330,000 worth of jewelry. And I'm like, keep in mind, I'm not no big time, dude. Like I this is bigger than my drug dealer that I you know we go steal [ __ ] and give it to me and give us drugs and money. Like he can't even buy this [ __ ] You know he lives in a trailer in the south in right up the street from here.

South Phoenix, bro. Yeah. Like literally I was having flashbacks anytime I turn on Broadway. I have flashbacks.

Yeah. And um of course 10 kids involved. My friend that took the jewelry of course tells the cops that he was sleeping at my mom's house. I burglarized the house. I even told them where the jewelry is hidden because I am on probation. So now I'm in this hard ass. So I ain't saying [ __ ] to the cops. The other five kids that went to the house first, every single one of them said that I had did it. I had told them I did it. They know nothing about this except I told them I'd done it. And they say they're going to make an example out of me. And I'm just like, "Bring it." You know, like I think I'm this little bad tough ass dude, you know? And worst case scenario, I thought I'd get like two, three, four years. And at this point, like

Did you have a courtappointed attorney? No, I actually had a So, I had a court-appoint attorney at first and then when they when they were still trying to give me the same plea four to six to nine years, my dad had got me I had the attorney that ran for the attorney general for the state of Arizona and he lost the election right during my case. I had the worst judge in Arizona's history. They end up banning him because he was too harsh on his sentences afterwards, but they didn't resence me and they sentenced me and I never feared his words. He goes, "I find it mitigated for the fact that you're only 18 years at the time you committed this crime."

He goes, "I also find it mitigated for the fact that I think you have a drug problem rather than a thieving problem." He al and his next words were, "But I think this also calls for an aggravated sentence of 12 years."

And I was like, and I remember before my sentencing, I told my lawyer, because we were looking at 4.25 to six or six and a half,

didn't they give you didn't the prosecutor give you a uh plea bargain? Yeah. Yeah. So, this is how dirty this is. I got to ple So, all the kids that did it, all they had on me was everybody's all these kids telling me, right? I know they'd already did it. And then by the time I got my police report, the five kids had that all got seen. They went to this house in the daytime. So there it was a maroon Malibu had got seen and spotted by the neighbors. So I'm knowing if it goes to trial, like I was the only one I knew. I wore gloves.

My fingerprints were nowhere. These all kids that got spotted and my brothers, they're all kids. I'm like thinking worst case now. My brother gets probation. I take this [ __ ] to trial. I skate on this. Right. So I I was fought my case for almost two years in the county jail. Nobody's in there for like non-dangerous crimes for that long. Right. Like literally nobody. Yeah. And I was in there for 20 or 21 months. So, but they won't budge on this. So, then what do they do? A year into my case, they charge my mom, my dad, and my grandma all with my crimes because my grandma lived in my mom's house and they said that my mom and my dad knowingly possessed the stolen stuff and didn't do anything about it.

Oh my god. Right. So, now I'm fighting this. That's crazy. And they don't budge on anything still. So, then finally we go to the settlement conference and everything's recorded in court hearings, right? except a settlement conference because a settlement conference is your final mediation before you go to trial. Okay? So, it's the last step. So, for your settlement conference, you're going to go in front of I don't remember the name, but I went in front of a different judge and it's like a mediation. So, it's not recorded. It's just like they put you guys in the room like figure this [ __ ] out before you want to go to trial because they're saying you don't really want to go to trial.

Plus, it's expensive. Unless they throw the book at you, please figure this [ __ ] out. You know what I'm saying? That's like telling to tell me like, "You really don't know what you're looking at if you're losing trial." on the tell the prosecute like, "Yo, you don't really want to go to trial, this and all that." And then so I tell him to give me a different plea. She says, "No." I said, "Okay, how about this? Drop the charges against my family and then recommend the minimum." I said, "You do that, I'll sign your plea bargain today." Minimum is 4.25.

She says, "If you sign this plea, I'll drop the charge against your family and recommend the minimum." Cool. Done. Whatever. It is what it is. So, I signed the plea bar. So, now I know I'm going to get 4.25 to six or six and a half. I remember telling my my lawyer like it was yesterday, you just got to make sure I don't get the six years. I cannot do six years. Like I cannot do I'm claustrophobic. I'm everything. Which is why I say like you can do anything you want to as long as you train your mind to do it. You know what I'm saying? Like like I lived in a 5 by seven and I'm claustrophobic, you know, for years too.

Like not only a year in solitary. Um and I go to my sentencing. At this point I'm just ready to go to prison. I've been in county jail forever, right? So I go there and you're like all shackled up together. Your lawyer usually comes and talks to you right when you get to

Wait, you said I can't do six years. They gave you 12. Yeah. And then they count the two that was in the county.

Yeah. So, so I went to prison at in May of 2005, got locked up in April of 03, and I got released in February of 2015.

Dude, don't you get to get out earlier for good behavior or anything or like appeal?

I I got out of SuperMax under investigation for attempted murder. Like, I didn't behave good in there.

Oh, you didn't behave? Oh my god. The exact opposite. I didn't change my life until like I overdosed on fennel after I got out and found God.

And what year was that? The year after I got out. So 2018. No, 2016. 20. So So that you got out in 2015. 2016 you almost died.

And then Yeah. Now that's 9 years ago. Just over 10 cuz I have 10 years sober now, too. Yeah. And then made two million bucks in the next 5 years with zero education, no help, nothing.

2 million. Mhm. Wow. And so keep go. I want to hear these details because I don't get a whole lot of stories. people don't ask these details. So, it's pretty cool even me talking about the snout. Um, and it brings it up for me, too, cuz sometimes, you know, I tell dudes the worst thing I can do is forget how shitty my life used to be. You know what I'm saying? Cuz then I'll get complacent and I don't have perspective. I don't have as much gratitude as I should have.

Y um you had these shackles. Yeah. Comes around. My lawyer won't even look at me. I knew I I have goosebumps. I just knew it was a bad day. I just had Right then when he wouldn't look at me, I knew there was something was wrong, you know. And what I should have done going back is I should have had her cap the plea because if I would have told her cap the plea, which means she said she'd recommend run recommend. But if I tell her to put it can be in the plea bar say and I'm recommending the minimum for this. I didn't

the best lawyer. I didn't do that because she's it's a lawyer. She's telling me to my face. How am I thinking a lawyer's gonna put a lie in my face in front of a judge? You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. So then she goes and my lawyer hands me this presense report which they do before you get sense every time which is they do like separate people go through the whole case and they kind of give the recommendations to the judge on what they should do, right? He gives this whole thing and he's like, "Here is this." And I'm like, "What the f is this? What do you expect me to do with this? What am I looking at?" you know, and he points right here. He goes, "That's her recommendation." She recommends 13 years. I'm like, "But she said to me, he's I know, I know, ma'am, but it was from in in front of a different judge. We don't have anything recorded." I'm just like I'm like, "Oh my god." And and then we do the talking and I still was like I was like, "What? There there's no chance the judge is going to give me this much time, you know? Like, keep in mind I've been there for two years now. So, I've

seen dudes, you know, murders and manslaughters 5 10 years. Like, I've seen all this [ __ ] There's no way they're going to give a kid like me 12 years for a theft charge." Like, not to mention, I didn't even think 12 was even on the table. I thought the worst case scenario would be six to nine, you know?

Yeah. And then he says that and I go from like balling my eyes out when he says that 12 years to like just flat out shock. And then the next thing I know is I you can hear like just the court ery rupt man. And I turn around behind me, you know, like my grandma's there and she's like flipping out like please let me hug my grandson cuz he's going to be dead by the time I get out now. Like barely holding himself up like like you seen in the movies, bro. You know, and uh um you know, I have a big family. You know, it's crazy now. I made it through all this when I don't talk to any of them.

You don't talk to your grandma? Oh, I'm sorry. My grandma and my mom are the only two people in my entire family I talked to both dad. Nope. Not any me and my dad.

What about your uncle? No. My dad's 27 years sober. So you don't talk I don't talk to my The last talk I got is to my uncle was like, "I will whoop your ass. I'm that dude now."

You said that to him? To my uncle. The one that taught me how to box. So you don't You talk to your mom and grandma only.

That's it. I don't even talk to my own brother. That like we're like this. Your younger brother.

Yeah. And you know what's what's the deal with that? I had a hard time being this cuz I don't ever want to b my family and [ __ ] like that. But like I'm a here's the thing like I'm a servant for God, bro. You know what I'm saying? And like my message is supposed to help people. So like if the truth hurts then my brother needs to change, you know, and like I won't have negative bad stuff around my family, you know, and uh whether

so your uncle, your dad, your brother, you just don't feel like they're living they don't every one of them. I don't especially with bad people now, bro. Like blood or not, like I don't I'm a firm believer like just cuz you have the same blood as does not mean your family. Like I have dudes that have not even a trace the same blood as me and like I would die for them and they would do the same for me.

Wow. Yeah, that's crazy, man. Prison will teach you real quick like about loyalty, man, and how how important it is to have someone that's like loyal to you. Like really loyal to the core, not just saying they're loyal to you.

Well, loyalty. So you go in and there's a few. So talk to me about the It's hard to even picture cuz I was a model. I used to I used I I was in a movie as a kid, too. Like I was a stud athlete. Like I was 6' 144 lbs with long blonde hair like a little pretty boy.

And this was uh what how what did you weigh when you went in? 6' 144. And that's when you went into prison.

No. Okay. So I put on like 20 lbs in jail. So I think I was like 160 170. And then I got released. I was 6'4, 264 pounds.

What do you weigh now? 220 225. Um, but I got Yeah, I got I put on [ __ ] What? I can't do the math. 120 lbs in there and grew three inches. I barely had armpit hair.

Yeah. I was the last person to hit like pubidi out of my friends. Like I was like literally just like a little kid when I went away, bro. Like, and you know, it's that's it. Honestly, it made it easier for me though because it'd be so hard, bro, if I knew that life was this good out here. Seriously, I didn't even know what I was missing. So, it kind of made it easier for me, you know? That was after two years in the county jail right there too.

Oh, boy. Wow. So, tell me about the gangs. I just want to hear a little more. I want to jump into what the future looks like. I just So, you walk in and you What did you get? In a bunk with someone else.

Yeah. Yeah. In a little cubicle. Like, you're an absolute nobody. They run the rules down to you. Like, yo, here's what it is. Like, you got 12 years. Like, you better pay attention and put your head down, you know? And like they You know why they call it a sucker punch? Do you?

No. that because you're the sucker if you could punch. I was like, what does that mean? He's like, if someone raised their voice at you, you even think you're going to get into someone, you just take off on them. And I was like,

you you take off on them. I was like, really? I was like, we can do that. He's like, yes, this is prison. He goes, you don't ever let someone get the better hand on you. If you even think you're going to go there, he goes, it's always better to say sorry afterwards.

So, you hit them. Yeah. That's what they tell me to. So, I ended up using this on the same guy like a couple weeks later. And my first fight in prison was the guy that ran the rules down to me and was running the building and was built like me and you now. And I was built like 160 170 lb kid back then. So

and you had already learned a little bit about boxing. I used to box. So I already know I have a cheat code. I you know if you actually know how to fight and have like a trained person like no one on the streets knows how to fight, you know. And that goes for prison. The same thing, you know. So like out of the streets, one out of 100 knows how to fight. In prison, 10 out of 100 know how to fight, you know. So um he says some smart ass [ __ ] about his playing cards in his little cubicle area. And I and I already made up my mind after count I was going to like take it there like say something where we had to fight. And um I'm just good on reading vibes. I knew no one respected me or looked at me and I was like I'm going to at least show these guys I can fight, you know? So he does it and then says, "I'm going to teach you the little young punks how to respect your elders."

And goes to take the chew out of his mouth and turns his back to me while he does this. I'm like, "Dude, you told me the rules here, you know?" So like I'm on top of him within 5 seconds. Doesn't even get a hand on me. They end up ripping me off him and beat the brakes off this dude. the next morning. Like the the weirdest thing about going to prison effort, especially when you're a popular kid is like you're a nobody, bro. No one cares about you. Like no one even talks to you. They're gonna see if you're gonna last a week or two. You know what I'm saying? Like literally no one even messes with you cuz they think especially a kid like me pretty like they're like this dude's going to check in in two seconds to request protective cuss, you know?

And but yeah, but you was it like the the what are there's gangs you either got to go with or not, right? Like you So there's like

I only have one choice. I can either run with the Aryan Brotherhood or I can be a lame. Those are the only two choices.

And the other ones are Yeah. You got the Mexi Mafia. You have um Sudenos which is the Cali guys. You Glendo so big Glendo has their own racing gang in prisons now too. And then you got the Pisas and the Border Brothers for the for them which we were at complete war with in in the prison before I left. Like literally full on war.

And that's when they separate yard murder each other. Like dudes Yeah. the head dude of my of the Aryan Brotherhood was like stabbed the head dude of the Mexicans and killed him and his and his right-hand man right in the yard in front of everybody. These guys are doing what were their sentences like?

A lot of them are not even like so the my were they like less than 10 years and they still did that

and now they're down now they're doing life. The main guy that was the top dude for the Arian brotherhood that I'll show you afterwards and he's like a man of God. He's the most remarkable dude I met now came down for a three-year burglary charge back in the 90s and murdered a black dude in the child home. Picked up 30 years.

Came down for three years. And when you get out some some of these guys, they they Do you know Andre? Uh

Norman. Yeah. He was just on my show last week. I know Andre really well. Okay. He was like the one he Well, he says he's one of the bosses.

Yeah. He's like, "Look, he'd walk in and be like, "Make me a sandwich." He I made him say that story on my show, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [ __ ] Andre's cool as [ __ ]

So, like that. That's one of the guys. Same kind of stuff. Yeah. It's And that's the same thing. So, he was You can tell by the dude's verbiages and stuff like that. Yeah. How it is. And that's like, and you know what that says is that Andre, not only that, but he did time in a real yard. Because those real yards, those cops just want to go home, bro. They're not trying to start no [ __ ] They don't want none. They don't want no problems or any of that stuff.

Oh, there we go. That's my man. We'll hit him up later. Yeah. So, world, right?

So, now you're you go through all this and you go through the struggles and who's visiting you?

So, then and then my mom, my brother, and my dad. I always had visit. I always had chicks, too. like it it was just kind of easy for me, you know, like like I always say like I had I had the toughest time possible. I had as good as possible with all that stuff, you know, I always had visits and stuff like that and always had commentary, especially when you're running yards, you have to have that stuff. But so that was addicting for the attention. Like the next morning when I come out like all these OGs that I used to like look at on the yard, you know, like or now want to shake my hand, you know, cuz they heard this little kid whoop way that was running the building, you know? So now they wait out there to shake my hand and now it's it's as addicting as anything possible. It's like making your first money when you're trying to become an entrepreneur. You know what I'm saying?

And I just jump head first into the politics and I'm like, "Oh yeah, if you guys want anybody smashed, please let me know." Like, I don't like God. If he's real, he don't like me.

Wait, this is right when you get out? No, when I get in. Right when So, I'm getting into the politics now. And then by the time I was 23 years old, I ran my first yard, which was a for I was on, no joke like

pulled a corrections officer. I had that yard so crazy. I was in a relationship with the CO. I had the lieutenant on the team that was helping us make sure we could go certain places. Um, we were drinking promethazine with coding on the yard, smoking blunts in a on a forard in the morning. Just it was like U of A to me, bro. That's why I said that was my taste of college. But then you get your first predator packet, which means they say like literally the state and staff says that you're a predator on the yard and it's automatic maximum security. So that was my first one. I got four of those done on me.

Maximum security is hell. 5 by seven. 5 by seven. You're you can touch this. You can't even do a push-up beside yourself. And you're in there 24 hours a day. 24 hours a day. The only time you get to get out is you get to go to a wreck cage that's the same exact smaller than this but dirty ass concrete. And you get to go out there. They shackle you, walk you out there like that, and then unshackle you once you're in the cage. You're never out of your cell without full-on cuffs on. And um so you never even do that. And like bird baths, you take a bird bath in your cell cuz showers is like when you go to the shower, it's you get a shower either Monday, Wednesday, and Friday or Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday. Not to mention that by the time they put you in the shower, say you're up on Henry Run, they put you up on the shower in Henry Run, then they go down ID run, whatever, all the way down to Abel, Baker, Charlie

on the other side. So by the time they come back to you, it's almost an hour. Like you're full on drenched in sweat in this whole hot ass, you know, shower that you just went in. So like I don't even shower, bro. Like when I was in Mexico, usually I'd spend a year not even leaving that cell, bro.

You spent a year in the same freaking cell. Did you What do you do? And I'm claustrophobic. You just

you read? Did you get like are you Do you want to know how crazy it is and how hard my time was? I'm so ADD and ADHD. I never even read in there. I was in VC where all you get is a Bible and didn't even open it. Jeez. I would just pace and I still know my thing. I would pace one and a half steps this way, one and a half steps this way. And you know why I do it like that? Why I still lean like this is because it's always freezing cold in there. So every time you're in there, all you do is like this. You have your hands in there because they don't give you anything.

You go like this. One and a half steps this way. And then my shoulder bounce on the door like this and I turn on like this. Go one and a half steps that way. And then my my shoulder hit the other wall. Oh my gosh.

And you just paced for 12 hours. It saved my life. I was 170 lbs on the yard, strung out, shooting dope. I go to the hole for 11 months. I get out 263 lbs. Finally, I I was able to get 11 months of like not even positive [ __ ] but at least not just doing drugs on the yard and this prison politics, you know what I mean? And I'm actually able to like every week I get a phone call to some calling my brother, my mom, and I'm actually talking like normal stuff now, not yard politics, but I'm here every day for 12 years straight. But I got out of prison, I didn't know what to do, bro. Like I didn't have a plan. Like I thought that like somehow get a construction job, like try and figure out how to get sober, but like have no fun, but at least you're not in prison.

Like that was like if I can find success, that's what it looks like. And I didn't even know how I was going to do that.

And so you get out, get out, and I'm entitled to party. Never been to a never been on a date, never worked a day in my life, never been to a bar, never done any of this stuff, right? Like I was a little kid when I went out. So like uh any normal good person place would be to spend time would be Samar. So I went to that sand bar over there in Awatuki six days a week.

I used to I opened that sandbar. Yeah. Pulled chicks there. We were probably part of the ones that closed it down. But pulled chicks there like every day. Just hook up with chicks every day. Did nothing positive. Get an assault case on parole. Blacked out. And then overdosed on fentanyl. Blacked out. Wasn't even doing drugs, but I was blacked out drunk. And I had to go through my phone afterwards. And I end up leaving the bar. Blacked out drunk. And one of my youngsters from the joint literally hit me up in Guadalupe. I drove my truck from Hobnob right there in Chandler to Guadalupe. Blacked out drunk. Don't remember driving it. and wake up in an ambulance 9 months out of prison and I'm like it was fentanyl and I wake up in an ambulance and I'm like I've never still I've been out of prison nine months. All I've done is drink and party. I have not nothing bad but nothing positive either. You know like

nothing like I'm not Did you have a job? No. No. I I had this mindset. Who the hell wants to hire me? You know what I mean?

What did you like just Mom's helping you? My dad would would give me 1,500 bucks a month at first. That's it just to live off of, you know? And he's like And that was the deal. I'd have to like act like I was putting in job applications every day.

Yeah. And I wake up in the ambulance and I tell the paramedic what the hell happened. And he's like, "You overdose." I was like, "I don't even use drugs anymore." He's like, "You did today." By the time they got me to the hospital, my heart was only beating six beats a minute. They gave me seven shots of Nan. Had to resuscitate me. When they found me, I was dead. No heartbeat. Completely dead. This is another reason that I really believe in God. I didn't find this till after my ex-girlfriend's sister found me, right? She went home after work to go tanning. said she pulled in the parking lot, parked her car, got out of her car, walked up to the door, put her hand on the door to open the door, she said the second she put on her hand on that door, someone told her to go home for some reason. So she said she took her hand off the door, got back in her car to go home and take a nap and finds me dead in the bathtub.

If she even walks in there and then decides to go home, like another few seconds, I'm probably not here today, you know? And like instantly I went from I remember in that hustle bed, I was thinking like, why did I survive this? Why couldn't I just die, man? Done with this life, man. Like I was done, bro. Like I still hadn't even worked. So, I didn't know like if I was going to make something of myself. Like, I'd felt like I've been fighting my whole life, bro. I was just done. Like, I just But I always wanted to kill myself and I never would because of my mom, you know, and I just wanted to die. And then I went from that moment to like thinking maybe I was saved and this is like God and maybe this is my chance to like try and get sober. And so, my last my little talk I had myself in that hustle bed is like, how much do you want to like prove that you're entitled to go drink and party and pull chicks and have fun or do

you want to at least try and get sober and figure life out at least once? Like, I told myself, give yourself a shot. You've never even tried to live life, you know? went out to South Dakota, stayed with my dad, went to like two or three AA meetings a week. Had no idea what to do, but luckily my codefendant was the finance director at a marquee up in Scottsdale. So, he's going to get me a job to go sell cars when I got out. And uh my dad sent me back here with five pairs of khakis, buy one get one free at Kohl's, five dress shirts, buy one get one free. And I had to pay him back my first paycheck and made 10 grand my first month ever working selling cars.

And 13 months I was in finance manager making 350 grand a year with my own office and just murdered [ __ ] I just turned a drug addiction to a money addiction and got sober and just changed everything bro.

So, you go into cars. My dad used to run Amco on Scottdale and Thomas. He owned a transmission shop before that. I grew up at auto shops. Dope.

So, uh I love car. I bought and sold over a thousand cars. Really? Wow. I bought them on Craigslist. I used to buy G20 Infinitities, Honda Civics, and just clean them all up, put new tires on them, change the oil,

and my dad would fix them if they needed anything, you know. That's dope. But that that's that's great. So you got 350 grand coming in and then what's the next calling after this?

So then yeah, do that for four or five years and like you know as well as anybody like money doesn't make you happy. It's cool when you first get it but then after a while all it does is open your eyes up to more expensive stuff and then you realize you don't really have as much money as you think you have you know and then it's like so I did that and like you know worked forever

a lot a lot of hours 70 hours a week. Yeah. That's what I'm working all these hours and I'm just like I got this you know million dollar house but it's like what what is am I doing this for you know like I'm not meant to do this. I know for a fact I'm not meant to do this. had no idea what I was going to do except a Vice TV producer had reached out to me and if you ever seen that show I was a teenage fell that yeah so season 2 episode 5 is my whole life story it's the shot call episode so Vice producer reaches out to me and I was like I had 400 followers on Instagram I was like man I'm trying to make a run at this [ __ ] like I'm dumb and naive as enough as it is you know I have a few great story

yeah I got a few hundred grand saved up and I'm like if this Joemo can get Instagram rich I can get Instagram rich too you know that was my mindset back then you know but I knew I wanted to help you I knew my story wasn't meant to sit in that office all day long you know and I was right on I was on the free rent at uh school right there. So my the finance office is like the glass window one at Marquee if you ever see it. If you drive by you'll you'll see it now. Like that was my office right there. So like Saturday I would just look at cars driving around on the free and I'd be like dude I used to spend Saturdays locked in a cell and I'm like no I'm just locked in another cell here. You know it just felt like this was not what I was meant to do. But I had no idea no experience. I hadn't done anything positive. Like I'm not one of those guys that did schooling or programming or anything you know like so I don't know

anything. I just know how to sell [ __ ] you know. And um but I saved up a few hundred grand. I was like I'm just going to go meet with whoever the hell I can. Don't even know who. But I had a rule with myself. I went to a different gym every day and I would at bare minimum at least get one new dude's phone number every single day and go up to the dude that looked like you and I. I had a nice [ __ ] on at the gym or something like that and just go spark up a conversation, you know? And I used to get roasted by my brother and his friends back then cuz they say I would go to the gym to pull dudes. But I'm like look at the network I built by myself though literally two years. You know what I'm saying? Like you ask how I met Snow like just the same way I do just networking. I don't know but I I know everybody just like you do, you know?

And um so I did all that and then luckily you know someone tells you I get interviewed on a couple shows and they're like this dude needs his own show. So I try and launch this podcast and launched the first episode of that one gets 20,000 views and I was like holy [ __ ] we might be on to something here and started podcasting for a few years and um you know

you wrote the book. Yeah. Started playing some crypto end up writing a book and then meet my just amazing wife and then to come full circle you know like I get I you know I had white pride tattooed across my stomach got it seven sessions the most painful [ __ ] ever. got that completely removed. And um I had to tell my wife at first like you know like I had one session left but I told her like the second day I met her I was like I was like yo I got to tell you something because I had a bad experience with that not telling a woman before I just flipped out on him in the middle of the night when I first got out. So I tell her and she's like oh I don't care about that. I'm like are you serious for real?

Another cool thing about my wife is I don't know stuff except for what I see. So I'm like thinking of this gorgeous black woman. I'm like, my only rule is don't talk politics with her before, you know what I'm saying? Before you see what kind of woman she is, you know, her second day over my house, she's like, I just got to ask you one question. I was like, what? She's like, what's your political beliefs? I was like,

I was like, I don't really do politics. You know, she's like, but come on. She's like, who do you believe? Would you be like conservative or Republican if you could say? I was like, all I could say is this. I don't like Joe Biden. She's like, oh my god, thank God. I was like I was like, all right, we got something on here, you know? And she grew up Mormon. Like complete polar opposite. She was a all-American volleyball player.

She's Mormon. Yeah. grew up um she has Queen Creek. Oh, she was in Queen Creek.

Yeah. So, she has the Kills record at Colorado State. Then went to Grand Canon, got her master's degree, full rides everywhere. Was going to go play professionally um overseas, but tore her Achilles and she knows she's a chick I just want to hook up with. And I would have never even tried to have a relationship with her because I was like, I'd have to do way too much fixing internally to have to date a woman like that, you know? And um not to say it's the greatest thing that's ever happened to It's just such a far understatement. Like this woman had changed my life beyond belief. Like changed it in ways like I didn't even know was changed and like made me believe that I I can do so much. At first I just thought I had to get sober, you know? Like that's just such a

it's a low bar. The barometer. Like that's what these old guys, they've been sitting around for 30 years going to Amy. It's like cool, congrats, but you got sober 30 years ago. Who do you help? What have you done or what have you fixed on top of that? You know what I'm saying? Like

well their dream is too small. You know most people that I meet they're like I want to do this. I'm like yeah that's money. What else?

Literally. And then what are you going to do after do that? Right. And then they say I do this all for my wife and kids. I'm like, what about you?

If you can't love yourself. Yeah. Yeah. And then um my the thing I'm most proud of now is like so I was kicked out of prison, right? Like I'm I'm tell this when I when I was at the when I was in that solitary apartment last year, right? Su who's like the gang detectives in there. If you get booked on anything in prison is from the SSU staff, right? So once we find out this guy survived and everything, now I'm like now I'm like, "All right, this investigation is up." The investigation is supposed to be for 30 days. It's called a 2-way investigation right?

They can extend them every 30 days, but whatever. It's usually a month. Sometimes they extend it twice, right?

So, they come in, I've been here like three or four months now, and I'm telling S like, "Yo, what's up? You guys got to let me out of this hole. Like, let me go to the yard." I'm like, "You can't expect me to go home after 12 years and solitary confinement and then make something of myself." That was back. I'm thinking they they want you to succeed. He's like, "Yo, we No, he's like, "You're done." Literally told me, he's like, "You're done." He's like, "My we are done with you." Verbatim. He says, "We're done with you in here in prison. We're going to let the streets have their luck with you. You're going to sit in the cell until you go home."

And my release, dude, I was released in fivepoint shackles walking to my release cage. Like with all the release guys walking their own thing. I was separate with five point shackles completely walking in there. And um you know, you got to see the video after this, but I had no idea what to do. And now I have one of the biggest podcasts. So they all have tablets now. So I have this I'm the second most downloaded dude in all the prison tablets across the entire country. The only dude that's bigger is that Echarolei and God behind bars because they do their stuff together.

And I developed prison curriculum now that I get to teach to prisons all over. And prisons and states pay me to come teach inmates what to do. Now,

what are your number one lessons? Well, give me give me mindsets number one anything. Like routine and mindset is anything because people you just like you said a second ago, people are like too small-minded. Like you you just have to get them to open up their mindset to show them what's possible. Like here's the deal. Like I thought I had a cheat code and I thought I was doing a disservice to everybody that had been locked up before when I made 10 grand that first month. And I was like I got that first check. It was like 4,400 bucks after taxes for my bonus check. And I was like, oh my god. All it did was show me, holy [ __ ] it's possible. And I remember thinking like, why the f didn't they tell me that we could do this in prison? You know, I mean, do you know how much how much harder I would have tried to do something productive if I knew that? If we had known that we could do cool [ __ ]

when we get out of here, people are going to try a lot harder in prison. You know what I'm saying? And which is why my curriculum is so different because like

anybody you see watching go to these prison yards, they're going to minimum security yards, these low security yards, and they're talking these dudes that are in and out of prison their whole lives. I go to the high high security yards like solid ad that place I went that's a for it's it's it's called a direct out from the shoe. So anybody that comes from security housing unit which is super max goes directly there. It's your first yard ever out of the shoe. And if you don't make it there you go right back to the shoe. And then when I got done with that program there and I get these killers on the yard bro to like cry, bro. And like literally act like I have never even seen dudes in prison act in my entire life. And not only that, when I get done with there, you know what the warden tells? He goes, "Dude, where do you want to go next?" I was like, "What's a higher security prison than this?" He's like Selenus.

But he's like, "We can't go to Selenus." I'm like, "Why?" He's like, he's like, "They're killing each other right now. They're killing cops and everything like that." He's like, "No one can go to that yard right now." And I'm like, "All right, if they clear it up, can I go there? That's what I want to do." Because when you get the shot callers to pass it down, you can change a 100 lives with one person. If you're just changing those little kids that are in and out of prison every two, three years, you're not changing nobody. You're barely changing one out of a thousand of them.

If you can get the shot callers to to to preach this [ __ ] on the yard. Well, the other thing is change it in the streets.

Yes. Absolutely. because they can make a big impact going look you guys you listen to me they were big

which is why I finally do coaching out here too I didn't want to forever like no joke forc is one of the guys that talked me into it too and I didn't realize how many people are just like don't know how to live life bro you know like and that's what I'm just I feel like I'm a pro at bro just you can throw me anywhere but I'm going to figure it out you know what I'm saying I always said like this like you could put me in the in the middle of the mountain afghan of Afghanistan and in about 6 months I'm going to be running that mountain

I don't know how I will fire for sure you know what I'm saying you You got the same trait?

I never went through. Dude, you know what's interesting is somebody's cat could die when they're nine and that will traumatize them for life. And somebody else could watch their mother overdose and it doesn't mean anything of the way they were live. So, you don't know what people go through and what's a lot to people. You've been through a lot more [ __ ] dude. I I've had a lot of impactful things. But I look back and I'm like, man, everything happened for a reason. I had great parents. They went through their own trials, but at the end of the day, like one of the most important things is uh look, I got a lot of people that don't believe the same way I do. Not not in God, but just I just had to have a big heart and just say, you know what, you know, I look, I'm not going to coach you on this, but you know, your uncle, your dad, your brother, I I don't know, maybe if they seen you, and plus you got

kids, and obviously you don't want them to leave a bad influence, but if you met with them every once in a while. Yeah. I I don't know, man. I I

Let's hear. No, I want to be real. Yeah. The deal is for me. If a guy like me, like, dude, I didn't get to where I did not listen to dudes like you.

Well, it's just, you know, I would never want regrets. And I tell you, dude, there's a lot of regrets I have. He's like, my dad almost died through co and I prayed hard. I'm crying going to visit him and and he's like, I'm not ready to go. And I said, if you let my dad live, not only will I be a better son, but I'll I'll I'll tell everybody on every stage. And uh this guy calls me a year later and goes, "Did you make a deal with God?"

"Shut the No, I'm not kidding." And I got goosebumps, man. I'm walking around and he goes,

he goes, "I don't know what you did, but I I imagine you on your knees praying." And I was like, "Who are you?" He's like, "I'm not any crazy, you know." He goes, "This is the first time I've ever done this." He goes, "But uh whatever deal you made, make sure you keep it cuz just as quick as he gave it to you, you could take it away."

And I was like, "Oh boy." I redid my PowerPoint. Yeah. And so the first thing I do in my orientation is show I got baptized and like I believe in Jesus Christ. But listen, I'm not going to tell you guys whatever religion you are. I'm not I'm just telling you who I am. But yeah, it's important. And wow, man.

You know, I started hanging out with Travis Hearn. If if you get a chance, you need to go meet him at Impact Church.

I would love I've been I've only been to two churches. Been at Impact and then I go to Echoes with Daniel Golding out there now, too. But yeah. And dude, I'm gonna start like I feel like it's my obligation. Like if you are, you know, four out of five people will go to church if you invite them, but nobody invites them

really. So I'm going to go blow that church up, dude. I'm going to bring our A1 trucks out. We're going to get there 45 minutes early. I just want to go once a month and just show up and be dressed like this and just say, "Listen, guys.

If you want this life, I don't care if you come or not. It's I'm just inviting you and then you decide and I'm going to go meet with Travis, have them talk to us." And I'll tell you this, like now like all the cool [ __ ] I've done, everything like even the like I'm most proud of the parent time now of my kids and stuff, but like because what's crazy is like the household I get to I raise right now is one I've never even seen except in the movies, which is crazy to me. Like think about that. I get to like raise my kids and have like a standard in my household and they get to like see love in my household I've never even seen in my entire life. You know what I'm saying? Like me and my wife are like this, bro. Like five times a day I'm like, "Babe, do anytime I get up, do you need anything? Can I do anything for you know, like checking on each other, like putting the other person first and

making sure the kids go first over anything. Like out of all anything I was going to say, I'm rambling there, but out of anything that I was um most proud about, it was uh Damn, I just lost my train of thought I was saying with that.

It's all good, man. We we edit this [ __ ] Um so, you teach mindset, you know. Where are you going from here? I mean, what is your big hairy dishes go? What's your dream? My dream is I I want to be the biggest speaker and I just want to travel to prisons across the entire world. Bro,

I got so many people I'm going to introduce to you. Uh three that come to mind and all of these guys came from prison. One of my buddies trafficking a lot a lot a lot of cocaine. Spent a long time. He's worth hundreds of millions of dollars today. Another buddy changing people's lives, getting them in shape. Uh Sean, I got I want to introduce you to these guys because

you know I I don't know if you enjoy kicking it with guys that know the like the serve time like you and then

Keegan came out his dad had a small business, electric business. Well, Keegan learned how to do HVAC in prison and he stayed in the whole because they transferred him to Atlanta and he's like I can't go out there. like he just he he's got stories and he gets teary teary eyed and so he just spended it locked up and he gets out.

And you know what's crazy about prison? If these guys come out, if they want to make it, they can make as much money. They could have any relationship. They can live the best life ever if they choose to cuz they've already seen they've been to rock bottom. It's straight up.

That's what I teach. And it's like this this if they find their brother and I don't even want to call it a brotherhood. I like to call it a wolf pack because wolves will attack. If an animal attacks one wolf, they all come in. They all attack

and Navy Seals all wolf packs. I spent some time with um Jaco Extreme Ownership and dude, he's soft when you're with him. He lives this David Gogggins kind of hard. I'm not going to say he's a soft dude, but he's been through this the ringer and dude, he gave me some of the best compliments ever

and he's like, "Look, if you ever want to get into business, you know, I'm an investor. Just call me." He's like, "I'm in." And like uh you know I get access to these people, but I don't go in there going, "Hey dude, here's what I'm gonna do. Can't wait till you see me." I'm just like, "Hey man, can we be friends? I want to learn from you and I'm going to take notes

and I'm going to actually do the work." Yeah. And so dude, I like your story. I love your story and the fact that you're going back to the prisons and the the impact that it could have externally. I mean, that's real and that's impacting that's a massive massive impact. No, but like I said, dude, it makes your mom safer on at home.

No, it's that's you know, we got a rule here is treat people like mom. And if if you didn't raised by a great mom, maybe it was a grandma, maybe it was an uncle, maybe it was a a coach,

but just do the right thing. And I don't need to teach my guys sales. I'm like, smile more, play with the dog, make friends, and do what you would do for your mom's house. If we do that, we're winning. Absolutely.

But they can't believe, here's the hard part. A lot of people believe that's a lot of money. My buddy that lives in Fresno, his average ticket in HVAC is 38,000. Average ticket.

And I go, "What's a lot of money?" If we all wrote down our what's a lot of money, somebody would put 10,000, another person would put 10 million. It's I'm like, when you own a house, you want things done right. And if you got two little kids at home like you do, you want to make sure they're trustworthy with your wife when she's alone in the HVAC or the whatever goes out.

What other uh what other things do you want the audience to know about? Um, don't ever stop finding your true purpose. You know, like I can't tell you how many guys that I know that I work with now, their 30s, 40s, 50s, and like just still feel lost and feel like they don't know where to go. It's never too late to restart. Like I didn't start working till I was 30 years old. I never worked a day in my life. Like you could whether you're 40 years old and I and I did that stuff and I I mean I semi-retired within 5 years. You know what I'm saying? Like you could legit restart anything. And another thing I like to do is I try to get dudes from prison like ready to attack the world just like you said they've had their backs against the wall like when they get done like going through my program in prison the number one thing is their mindset should be that they have an advantage on regular people out here because of what we've

been through. So when you can like literally use your screw-ups to help you better off, like you have an advantage on normal the normal society, you know?

You embrace the failure and you remember where you came from, dude. It's it's hard. Like listen, would you rather hire a PhD or somebody that's been through 10 years of of of literally war in business and they've been through all the mistakes?

Absolutely. I I'll tell you, um there's a great book you need to throw on the top of your list. It's called A Man's Search for Meaning.

Okay. And the dude went through Holocaust and he made it out. And when you could find meaning in a place like that, I mean, I would imagine that the Germans that was worse than prison when you're watching your your families getting murdered. Every Jewish person just treated like

their bones their their arms are smaller than my wrist. And uh that's the ultimate to go through that. And you know, more read more of the Bible. I want to show I got a book that every day it's a new scripture that I just read. And then there's the the Bible app.

I know. I just got that Bible app. So that's how I read. I do that and I've been reading like I think the I don't even know like the book of J John or James, one of the two. But uh

yeah. Well, my dad could quote every scripture. And by the way, that's how I strive to be. I used to strive to make a lot of money and all that stuff. Now, you know what's crazy? Like my number one goals aside from like raising my family great is like literally I want to be able to just like know the Bible like the back of my hand, you And like I want to be one of those guys that like I always say to my wife now like I want to be one of those guys I would have made fun of when I was in prison, called him a Bible thumper and stuff like that because like why not? Like all the stuff that we do like look at our lives, bro.

You know what I'm saying? Like seriously, I wake up every day and here's the cool thing. Like I don't have any pain. I live in the United States of America. Like some days you're like, man, I just want to do more. And you're like, what? Dude, I am drinking out of a fire hose 24. It's self-inflicted. Like my mom goes last week, she goes, hey honey, um you seemed really quiet the other night at dinner. are you okay? I was like, well, A1's got 920 employees. I got the family office launching three softwares, not to mention 20 other investments.

I've got uh my my event with 1500 people and that's growing. We're building two houses. I'm engaged. We want to have children.

No, dude. That's the Oh my god, that was popped in. But I can't even tell you. It's like uh I'm good,

but just know I'm in my own head a lot. I'm in my head. But I, you know, there's one day a month where I kind of like, man, why do I do all this? And then the rest of the time I'm like, dude, let's go.

You know, I just started doing two weeks ago with me and my wife, too, is like one day on the weekend taking no phones.

No phones. Yeah. It's a big thing. And it's a it's you don't realize how much cuz even I'm pretty good, bro. Like I'm try to be I'm really like I change all the diapers. Like I wake up with them every morning and night. Like I'm a very very Sunday this week. So we just pick a day. like whatever we have something going on, you know, like but we're doing this Sunday, no phones, me and the wife, you know, and it does make a difference cuz even even if you're not bad with it, like you realize all your attention is there. Like you don't realize how much you're just flicking it on commercials, you know, and it's like instead just like you're playing with your son or something the whole time or giving your wife more attention. It makes a huge difference.

No phones, maybe. No phones, no TV. That'd be crazy. Wow. And you really get to know Well, the weather's nice now, so you could do that.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, I was with a buddy yesterday in this room and he sold his house in Paradise Valley or in Arcadia and he sold his house in Canada and he just lives he's been to 70 countries and all they do he's got two back two two duffel bags he brings and he works 3 months in each different countries. I'm like, "Dude, I don't know if I could do that." But he's like, "Dude, I live the best freaking life."

Imagine that. And he's on major stages. He gets paid 100 grand per stage. You know what I mean? And and but by the way, I love stages. I love my time, but every time I leave here to do a stage, I'm losing a [ __ ] ton of money

for sure. But I'm impacting lives. So, what's it about? Is it about money or impact? So,

I can't believe you have that many employees, bro. Congrats. I know. No, they're they're my co-workers. We're we're the we're a good team. Uh, you know, the the thing is is they changed my life just much if not more than I've changed theirs. So,

that's awesome. Um, how do people get a hold of you, Peter? On the gram is peter_myerhoff. Uh, my website petermyhoff.com. Um, I'm on every platform though. Tik Tok podcast, don't forget that. Roll call with Chappie on every platform too. YouTube, all that stuff. I'm I'm on everywhere bro.

What's your favorite podcast you've done? No offense, Josh. No, bro. Really? And I'm not just saying that cuz he's coming up here. I tell people all the time, bro. Like,

what did you like about his podcast? You know, when you know the whole circle of all the big dudes around everywhere, like 90% of them dudes are fake. Even the ones that aren't fake, 80% of those aren't genuine. like he's just real genuine and like to be honest he gave me a shot when my show wasn't even really big like I was kind of shocked he would do my show and like this is the kind of guy Josh knows he showed up to do my show remember I'm like just starting I think it was like my 20th episode like no nothing nothing big and someone just vouched and he came and did it and then showed up like 10 minutes late because he forgot to bring me presents so he went to Best Buy and dropped $1,000 getting me all his products from Best Buy and then gave me a whole bag of all his snow products he just bought from Best Buy so I could try all his products and just the greatest conversation and like

me you always get it wrong like you always me I'd always think of a guy when you see someone like him you're like dude whatever what how much money did his parents give him or how much you know what I'm saying or how many you know I mean what

he saved his parents house I was partners with him when he was 17 and grew up and I heard what you did that's why I'm a huge huge fan of yours like he speaks more than highly of you but um yeah and then when you found out he grew up on the south or on the west side of Phoenix and like you know didn't even have a computer just crazy bro like he's the only podcast I did where I was like holy [ __ ] no way then what oh my god He is a brain. Like he sits down

and I don't know how he does it, man. But you talk about brilliance. I don't know what his IQ is, but I I still I was like,

he's confusing to even talk to. Like even when I hang out with him like I'm like, dude, like I'm I feel like I need a decoder to even talk to you. You know what I'm saying?

I I literally was like he's like, "Dude, I need garage help." I showed up there with one of my guys. I'm like, "Hey, give him the nine. Fix everything. Replace it all. Give him new openers." And I said, "Josh, give me one hour a month." And uh he would have done that for free, but he's like, "Dude," he's like, "By the way," he's like, "I know every group you're part of." He's like, "You're one of the only real ones." He's like, "These guys drive Ferraris, dude. They don't have any money in the bank."

Y but um for sure. No, man. I appreciate it. Give me one book. Is it cuz you just got started getting into reading. Is there any books that you would recommend other than Against All Odds?

Besides Against All Odds, the only book that I can legit being real to my character and not lying to people is the Bible.

All right, let's go. And uh finally close us out, man. One final thought. We talked about a lot of cool stuff. We know your story. Just give the audience something to think about.

Life is hard. It's hard for everybody. The only time that you're never going to progress is when you actually give up. The only thing that I did right for I always say 31 years of my life is that I didn't give up. I don't take no for an answer. If you believe in yourself, you can literally achieve anything. The fact that I'm sitting here today should show you that. And if anybody is not happy where they are, the only thing stopping you from getting the life you want is you just doing the same thing over and over again every day.

Oh, I love it, man. Thanks, Peter. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate you. Appreciate it.

That was a horrible handshake on my part.

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Who speaks in "From Prison to Purpose: Peter Meyerhoff's Journey of Redemption"?

Josh (last name unknown) (Host), Peter Meyerhoff (Guest), Andre Norman (Guest), Travis Hearn (Guest), Daniel Golding (Guest), Jocko Willink (Guest).

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Peter Meyerhoff's journey from a troubled youth involved in crime and drugs to a transformed life of resilience and purpose highlights the power of redemption. After serving nearly a year in solitary confinement of a 12-year prison sentence, he became a best-selling author, motivational speaker, and entrepreneur, creating a sober clothing line and a prison curriculum app aimed at helping inmates…

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The episode runs 48 min; the transcript is about 13,192 words in 179 timestamped sections.

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