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Babes in Toyland LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Babes in Toyland LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)", an episode of How Did This Get Made? published December 23, 2025 (1 h 35 min, about 16,932 words). It mentions 8 people, works and ideas, including Babes in Toyland, Drew Barrymore, Pat Morita, Eileen Brennan, 8bit Christmas.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Babes in Toyland, Eileen Brennan, 8bit Christmas, Private Benjamin
  2. – 20:00: Babes in Toyland, Master Disguise
  3. – 30:00: Quibi
  4. – 50:00: Drew Barrymore, Eileen Brennan, Private Benjamin
  5. – 1:00:00: Drew Barrymore
  6. – 1:10:00: Drew Barrymore, 8bit Christmas
  7. – 1:20:00: Drew Barrymore
  8. – 1:30:00: Babes in Toyland, Drew Barrymore
  9. – 1:34:39: Babes in Toyland

Notable quotes from "Babes in Toyland LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)"

  • WE SAW BABES IN TOY LAND. SO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?
    about Babes in Toyland · at
  • What is Babes in Toy Land about? If you've not seen Babes in Toyland, it's simple. It's the Wizard of Oz kind of with like weird adult men wanting to marry teenage girls…
    about Pat Morita · at
  • To Paul, it's Oh. And I got really excited. I thought, Oh, it's a Christmas movie. I'm a I'm an actor in a Christmas movie, so that's 8bit Christmas HBO Max right now.
    about 8bit Christmas · at
  • Pausing writing. Pausing writing. I still live in fear from the time that I we were on tour in New York. I had to watch Master Disguise, the great Dana Carvey vehicle and I was…
    about Master Disguise · at
  • By the way, I only realized halfway through the pandemic that it stood for quick bites.
    about Quibi · at
  • Yeah, she really like lays it down. she's so good. And to be clear, if you haven't seen Private Benjamin, do yourselves a goddamn favor and watch Private Benjamin. Goldiehan, Eileen Brennan, next level. Go ahead.
    about Eileen Brennan · at
  • All right, Lynn M. Hansen writes, Subject line, Drew Barrymore. That's right. Drew Barrymore. Drew Barrymore does a great job in this remake of Babes in Toyland. It is not my favorite, but it is very good. And then five stars.
    about Drew Barrymore · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Drew Barrymore — Person · Referenced actor / surprise audio guest · 7 mentions · first at
    Central to the episode because the hosts are covering the 1986 TV movie 'Babes in Toyland' starring her; she also appears via a recorded 'second opinions' segment.
  • Pat Morita — Person · Referenced actor · 2 mentions
    Highlighted for playing the Toymaker/Toymaster figure; the hosts discuss his character’s tone (potentially horror), dubbing, and the Santa/Toymaker interpretation.
  • Eileen Brennan — Person · Referenced actor · 3 mentions · first at
    Discussed both as a cast member and as a point of comedic correction (misnamed in the intro); later praised for her performance and referenced via 'Private Benjamin'.

Books & papers

  • Babes in Toyland — Book · Referenced work · 7 mentions · first at
    The main subject of discussion in the podcast, a TV movie from 1986 featuring Drew Barrymore and Keanu Reeves.

Companies & orgs

  • Quibi — Company · Referenced company · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as a defunct streaming platform that had picked up a show idea from the hosts.

Media & podcasts

  • 8bit Christmas — Media · Referenced work · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as a recent Christmas movie one of the hosts acted in.
  • Private Benjamin — Media · Referenced work · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned in comparison to the movie being discussed, highlighting Eileen Brennan's performance.
    Yeah, she really like lays it down. she's so good. And to be clear, if you haven't seen Private Benjamin, do yourselves a goddamn favor and watch Private Benjamin. Goldiehan, Eileen Brennan, next level. Go ahead.
  • Master Disguise — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as another movie watched by one of the hosts, featuring Dana Carvey.

Full transcript with timestamps

Tighten the hatches on your Jeep's soft top because kids are going flying. WE SAW BABES IN TOY LAND. SO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? till baby just in the Kelly show up to hit your home control shad ass and he's on the breaking cuz they cruise cuz the bad kids looking kind of nice getting late shots in the bunch of movies. There's a real question for you. How did this get? Hello people of Earth. Hello people of Los Angeles. WE ARE BACK. [screaming] WE ARE BACK live at Largo. Holy [ __ ] It has been far too long. And we cannot wait to talk about tonight's movie, which is the biggest piece of Cincinnati propaganda ever produced. LENNY REEFENSTALL WOULD LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, "WOW, how can I get on this train?"

This movie, Babes in Toy Land, Kiana Reeves, Drew Barammore, Richard Mulligan, Ellen Buren, all came together for a TV movie in 1986 that real Ellen Brennan, but it should have been Ellen Buren, Eileene, Eene Brennan. And that was a trick because I wanted to see who saw the [ __ ] movie. and you prove to me that you are worth being the first live audience we've had back. So, thank you. If I did that at home on one of our Zoom recordings, I would have gone in. I would have sipped it out. I would look smart here. I will look dumb. I'll still cut that out.

But you got to see me vulnerable. Um, what is Babes in Toy Land about? If you've not seen Babes in Toyland, it's simple. It's the Wizard of Oz kind of with like weird adult men wanting to marry teenage girls, creatures, and Pat Marita. Uh, it's hard to really parse, but we will try our best to break it down. And I can't think of two people to break it down better than my co-host. So, please welcome Mr. Jason Manzuk.

What's up, church? HOW ARE WE DOING, LOS ANGELES? [screaming] I missed you. But boy, do I wish we weren't here together in the same room

because I don't know what you've been doing, but I suspect it's risky. I will let you know most of the audience are players for the Chicago Bulls. So that is tricky. A lot of them are in quarantine. That's why they're here tonight.

Huge stuff, guys. Holy [ __ ] This is nuts. Jason, I I don't know if you noticed, but when I even did my pre-show ritual, I went over to your chair and then immediately realized and didn't touch a thing.

Thank you. I'm so excited to have you back, Jason. But we could not do this show without my other co-host. Please welcome to the stage, Miss June Diane Raio.

Wow. How are you, June? I'm doing well. How are you, Paul? I'm doing fine. Thank you so much for asking. I'd just like to say at that live show that Jason's talking about, I he was so sick

so sick so sick that I said I will not be sharing a hotel room with you. And so June and I had to share a hotel room.

Didn't see another way. I didn't see another solution. I slept great. So, okay, let me just say this is really overwhelming and I may cry.

Yeah. So, it's very emotional. And just so everybody is comfortable with that. Yeah. I just might cry a few times.

I hate every single one of you. I don't like it here. And I don't want to be here, but I

I am thrilled you're here and I love every single one of you. We are so happy, so happy to be back. Um, and I will say that June, I know how you watched this movie. Would you like to share with the audience where you watched it? Well, I have a bone to pick.

Okay. So, I don't I never know what the movie is going to be until literally moments before my eyes fall on it. I Now, I did ask this morning to me as the credits are rolling. She's like, "What is this?"

That's my process. And this morning, I said to Paul, "Uh, what are we watching?" And with sort of like, "Oh, God, what do I have to do?" Um, that kind of tone. And you said, "Oh, you're going to love it. that it's a Christmas movie.

Amen. I stand by that guy. This is not a Christmas movie. This is not a Christmas movie.

It is. This is a Christmas nightmare. This is This is like a haunting fable of I mean like I'm almost positive in the opening seeing Drew Barmer's character perishes.

Yes. I mean, if there was ever a time for a Jacob's Ladder scenario, I mean, this is it. I hesitate to say it, but it is absolutely this movie is 100% a Jacob's ladder scenario.

Here's I just want to correct one thing that Paul you said earlier and that Kiana Reeves, my dear dear friend from John Wick Chapter 3 Parabellum.

Tick tock, Mr. Wick. Tik Tok, Mr. Wick. Tik Tok. Um uh uh uh misidentified. He says he has a Jeep. You says he You said he has a Jeep. This [ __ ] is driving a Suzuki Sidekick.

Wow. Now, IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHY DREW Barrimmore plummets out the back, okay, of the co of the sidekick, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A SUZUKI SIDEKICK.

You still have to buckle up. But back in '86, they didn't care about seat belts. Um, as long as you had a sled in the car, you were fine.

Thank God for that sled. Imagine God. Imagine what would have happened if she just plummeted out the back. No sled.

I I will say this. RIP. This movie is a TV movie, a made for TV film. Oh, okay. Not

um and uh it starts off in every I think every shitty diner painting that I've ever seen.

For me, I will say for me it started with me going to the website for toy for for for toys in Babeland.

Well, that is going to give you some different very different thing. I bought a bunch of dildos.

Okay. Well, I made by the toy maker. Yep. Pat Marina. PAT MARINA EYES on it. Some eyes on that dildo.

All the dildos and vibrators have eyes and if you crank them, they do stuff. And he signs them like a cabbage patch kid. That's nice.

Yes. So I So I watched this movie. So I said to Paul, it's Oh. And I got really excited. I thought, "Oh, it's a Christmas movie." I mean, I'm a I'm an actor in a Christmas movie, so that's

8bit Christmas HBO Max right now. I'm a holiday actor, so I can connect. By the way, congrats.

Thank you. Like I we again, we've stated it before and we'll state it again. We want access. Give us the keys to the system in there.

Let us make a Christmas movie. Yeah. As a holiday actor, I felt like, oh, this is my genre and it's a genre I love love love. So, I was looking forward to it.

You and I are watching these on our free time for fun. Absolutely. Put on a Christmas movie every night.

About one that I was like, do we need to switch the movie for what you're telling me?

I knew that we shouldn't because you all have prepared properly, but the movie that we watched was with uh Melissa Joan Hart as a podcaster and she runs into uh Luke Perry.

No. Oh, that was almost as rip. That was almost as bad as Ellen Bur yesterday. That doesn't mean that Luke is doing Jason Priestley. And listen, Ellen Buren. Jason Priestley.

When you said Ellen Buren, both June and I RECOILED A LITTLE. I love them both, but I mean that's Eileen Brennan.

All I can think of is Ellen Buren in Private Benjamin. Oh my god, what a different movie.

What a different movie. But well, also as a Jason Priestley gal myself, I always preferred him to Luke Perry. Um, that just hurts, you know. That just hurts for all of us.

You loved you loved The Priest? Yes. Okay. Yes. Um, but so I I said to Paul, "Okay, it's a Christmas movie. I'm excited to see it." And then I had to take our oldest son to a a basketball practice. And we drop him off, him and his friend. And now I I go back to the car. Now, the only spot I had was at the entrance of the B. Like, every parent, every person has to walk through and it's brightly lit where I'm parked. And I have to watch this movie on an iPad. And I'm sitting in the front seat watching this movie uh and it's propped up against the wheel and I'm furiously taking notes. And I thought, I'm going to be reported to the authorities.

There's no way that I get out of this without someone putting me on some sort of a list.

And rightfully so. Absolutely. Can you imagine if it was me? Imagine me in my car with something that we all know contains a camera pointing out the windshield while I furiously take notes in my I will still say that I watched

pausing writing. Pausing writing. I I still live in fear from the time that I we were on tour in New York. I had to watch uh Master Disguise, the great Dana Carvey uh vehicle and I was watching the Turtle Club in a children's museum while my children played with their grandfather. I was in the corner with a laptop watching a Dana Carvey movie. Like, ah, yes. Like, what is this? What's particularly weird is

you could get away with watching that movie with your kids and look normal. Yes.

But to be in a children's environment without kids, but watching a kids movie is a lure.

Yes. Come on over. What's over here? Well, the other thing for me, Skyy family.

Yes. is I was facing the auditorium. So all the other parents are propped up watching their kids play except for me and I look like I'm making the choice like oh I don't want to watch my kid like I want to be here with this.

Yeah. I and the and if somebody were to walk and see what you you would you might be like what's going on and you're like before I got to watch the succession finale or whatever but to be if someone were to walk around and be like what the [ __ ] are you watching? It's only 10 more days till Christmas. Got to get my Christmas on. Got to get through these.

Be watching the the car chase of them driving in circles. You'd be like, "Have you seen what she's watch get a load of?" You know, the other people there are like, "Get a load of this."

Truly insane. Well, this movie is this movie surprised me in many levels because

not me. I I first of all, start to finish, I was like, I get it. It makes total sense.

Why are you even doing it? When I saw Pat Marita as the toy master, I was like, that's a movie I do want to see, and that could be a horror movie. I'm down for an evil Pat Marita. Uh, but no, he's a lovely, lovely man in this film.

What made you think he was evil? Does the toy master sounded very evil like the name the toy?

Yeah. Like, oh, I make a Jack in the Box. It's a drill. Toy master or the toy maker?

I thought it was toy master. Toy master. It was master. Okay. Okay. Okay. One thing I got right about this uh credits. Uh

I just had a super quick question. Is where was Drew Barrettmore's family from?

Oh, I don't have that in my notes. Maybe Nate Kylie gave some notes. Would have helped me understand the movie better.

If I understood via both dialogue and maybe even original song, you know, where these [ __ ] were from.

I think I might have something here to help us. This is a clip from the movie. Uh, let's see if this helps. Um,

this is going to be the best Christmas in the history of the world. It's not. Right here in Cincinnati.

Welcome to glorious Cincinnati, queen of Ohio's alpine ski resorts. Noo. I come from C. Natt,

the best in Ohio, USA. At first they called it, but since they named it Cincinnati girls are pretty pretty in this pretty little city.

The fellas are the feistiest I've seen. I truly what? Another verse. Now, here's the thing about that that number.

What more? THE CITY DOESN'T WARRANT THAT MANY VERSES. I have a thing with Philadelphia. We now have a thing with Cincinnati. Jason, you have just put Cincinnati on blast.

Listen, I'm putting Cincinnati and all of Canada ON BLAST. NOT INTERESTED. THERE IS A MOMENT THOUGH IN that thing and re-watching it where first of all the driving in this movie is amazing because not only are they driving like the worst fake driving where it's like left, right, left, right, but they're also pushing the car back and forth like a Star Trek episode. So, if a car was driving like this, it would be in an accident.

Well, also during a blizzard and he keeps going up through the He's driving a manual drive up through the gears. He should be in second gear going so slow right now. But as the SONG PICKS UP TEMPO, HE'S LIKE, "GOT TO DRIVE FASTER. Got to drive faster. DRIVING SO FAST THAT the little girl dies." Driving so fast, I CAN'T STOP DRIVING.

HAS THE MOST dead kids. That's the fact. Look it up. It's because of the songs that WE SING WHILE WE DRIVE. THIS IS WHAT'S KILLING all our children. It does seem cuz they have all those looks to each other in that scene like we're going to do this. We're going to finish the song.

We need the blood from an 11year-old kid. Wait. So, there's something here that I thought was so interesting is in that moment where they're singing, Giano looks like he's lost control of the car and he's like,

and now only moments later, a girl shoots out the back of that Jeep. because he does lose control.

But in that moment, why I guess he had one more verse before she could shoot out. I mean,

this and I'll be honest with you and I cuz much like June, I had zero reference. I had no idea. I just was given a title and a link.

Boom. Knew Ellen Buren was in it. I was like, "Burst, baby, burst. Give it to me."

I heard it's a prequel for Reququum. Uh I was like, "Wait, are you telling me uh the the star of Empty Nest and and Golden Girls is in this?" I'm hardcore in. Anyway, regardless, uh, I put it on and I'm watching the movie and then this happens and I'm like, I write in my notes, hang on, is this a [ __ ] musical?

And then I watch the rest of the movie and I'm not sure. Yeah, this movie has too few songs to be a musical, but too many songs to be a movie. There is. Okay.

It's like three and a half songs. The original cut of the movie was 145 minutes.

How long is this? 94. Okay. So, okay. Wow. And the rest was songs. Clearly, the rest was songs that they were like, "We got to get rid of this."

So, well, by the way, the biggest mistake of this movie was they hired people that were terrible singers. Like, there's not like even

Well, this sister was a good singer. I mean, what's concerning about that? I don't think the sisters dub, but everybody else is. But what's concerning about that his singing is

but but by a bad singer. Well, I don't think when you said TV movie, I think that answers your question.

Yeah. But it's concerning cuz it makes me think like, oh, they left they these are the best songs that they left in.

Can you imagine? This is what we had to keep. Can you imagine what was cut from this movie? two songs. One song called It's the Feeling and another song called We'll Think of Something,

which might as well be that is like the truth. That is speaking truth inside of the movie.

By the way, all what's good? What's the movie? I don't know. We'll think of something.

I mean, by the way, this um this movie was shot all in Germany. But uh all the songs written by Steven Sonheim. RIP. But it is based on a 1903 opera. Babes in Toyland is an opera.

And there isn't another movie called Babes in Toy. No other movie. No, I'm just joking. Yeah, of course.

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Like in that in that version, are all of those songs in there?

Well, this seems to be like a take on it. Like it's like this isn't like a remake of that or or is it remake? It is. Okay. I didn't know that.

I think Toy Stole. Here's something I don't know anything about, but I'm going to be very actively saying that I do. I think Toy Soldiers are definitely in

the other Babes in toy land, but I don't think like Mother Hubard's like shoe is in that. Like I feel like

So you think everything's the same, but the shoe? Everything's the same, but the shoe IS NOT. I THINK THEY did was they moved in like some like they I think they am I right in this that they moved in like the fairy tales like the Humpty Dumpty and stuff like that or is that in the old one too?

It's in the old one. 20 soldiers that has all of that same crap. That man out. Apparently there's a movie with Laurel and Hardy.

Escort that man out, please. Well, what's so disappointing about this? I mean, this isn't Wizard of the of Oz because what's so disappointing is that the characters that we meet in the beginning and their character traits have nothing to do with the fairy tale characters with honestly with the exception of the woman in the shoe and her lists.

Well, the only relation that I didn't truly did not understand until the very end of the movie is that Drew Barrimmore's character is meant to have kind of renounced childhood. And so, righty cooking, the land, she's making dinner. Don't worry, I'm making dinner. She's taking care of things. She has kind of renounced childhood and is living as a like an adult, an adult life. Real commentary on the actual Drew Barammore's life. It is.

Well, I mean, that was Yeah, that was interesting. Like, but I felt like they didn't really state it that much cuz she was acting like a kid, but

but that's why I feel like Toy Land was this this, you know, this also gave me real for comic book nerds here. Uh uh Fables, Bill uh uh Bill Lam's Fables. This was like very in that world that I was like, "Ooh, a world that you go to where the fables are actually exist, where all the kind of story book characters live together in a town,

but she seemingly didn't know any of those stories. It wasn't like, oh my god, Humpty Dumpty." Like they just introduced her to people Humpty Dumpty. YOU DON'T PUT A giant egg in a movie, okay? Unless he's going to fall off that wall and crack. THEY SHOW HIM TWICE.

YEAH. He I thought for sure I thought for sure in the fight sequence at the end we were going to watch him

and ALL THE KING'S SOLDIERS AND ALL THE KING'S MEN WOULD TRY AND PUT HIM BACK TOGETHER. NO,

I want that 145 minute long version. That's a 30 minute sequence. Maybe that's what they thought.

This is So here's what's so weird though about the the basic premise of the movie. So, yeah, it is about this girl who um is sort of a little mother in the house and doesn't have any interest in toys and doesn't want this sled that her older sister's getting her for Christmas cuz she doesn't really know how to play with stuff. The sled was shitty.

No, no. I think she doesn't WANT KIDS STUFF. OH, I was like I wouldn't like wouldn't want a sled either.

Just like you're not going to like it because I Or she says something like you're not going to like it cuz it's fun or something like that.

Oh, I thought she was like I got you a It was like the equivalent of like socks. I don't think so. I think

like who wants a sled? What? Like I want a sled. You want a sled? I'd like a sled right now.

You want like as a kid like here's a sled. Yes, Paul. You need to go to Toyland.

What are you TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, OF COURSE. WHAT DID YOU WANT? A TYPEWRITER? What are you talking about?

A sled is a gift that you that you get like the normal part of the year. Don't give that to me as a gift. YOU'RE GETTING YOU'RE GETTING GIFTS during the normal part of the year.

WOW. HEY, I bought you a sled. We'll go sledding. A sled is like you don't go like here's your your Christmas gift is a sled.

I'll be honest. What? I am blown away right now. There's actually like nothing that's more fun and childlike and free.

It's more of the season. I mean, if you're especially where we all grew up, you want to get one in the summer time. There's snow on the ground. Oh, here's your Fourth of July sled.

It's like enjoy America's independence. IT'S LIKE GETTING A POOL FLOATY FOR CHRISTMAS. LIKE,

NO, IT'S NOT. COME ON. YOU CAN IT'S NOT AT ALL BLIZZARD IN THIS TOWN. YOU COULD LITERALLY GO OUTSIDE.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE SLED IS IMMEDIATE USE. YOU CAN USE SHE DIDN'T KNOW IT. SHE DIDN'T KNOW IT. SHE

SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT A SLIME WAS. NO, SHE DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A BIG STORM. It was a It WAS A FREAK DISASTER. CINCY BABY. OF COURSE THERE IS.

HOW WE KNOW THAT? And then there SHOULD BE A LYRIC cuz Cincy is so snowy. You need a big old [ __ ] sled. You know, like they should have that line.

I think honestly this pandemic has affected us all in different ways. And of all the things you could disagree with, a sled being a good Christmas present is the worst take OF ALL. GET ME ONE OF THOSE NINTENDO ROBOTS THAT DROP THE DISCS AND DO THE [ __ ] THING. GET ME that robby robot.

Get you a Robi. Wow, look at you. Because you're like, I can get a sled anytime I want.

Oh, big deal. You got me a sled. Thank you. WA. I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE TALKING about a sled as though it's like hardware or something.

Yes. It's like a vacuum. The hammer. It's not. IT'S LIKE A TOOL. I GOT YOU A I GOT YOU A DUSTBUSTER.

HERE'S THE DEAL, PEOPLE. Here's the deal. Okay. The premise of the movie. So, I

I think we are we are in the the world of the movie. We're supposed to think that sled is a great joyful gift for a child.

A child a child that is predisposed to think in Paul's thinking it's not that good of a gift, right? THAT'S WHAT THE SISTER SAY. I SHARE SOME similarities with Drew Barmore's character.

Well, I know. And this is going to get real dark, so get ready. Two, by the way, two harrowing childhoods.

Yes, the details will haunt you. That is a show. That is a that I want that I will come and sit right there for you and Drew Barmer on this stage trading childhood stories.

That's the show. BUT MY POINT is it just got picked up by Quibby. The RIP just found out Quibby exist anymore.

RIP. By the way, I only realized halfway through the pandemic that it stood for quick bites.

That was And when that realization hit Well, true. I mean, I got to just if we talk about it, I got to just say the original name was Omacasa, which to me is s like And

can you imagine? Can you Oh, are you watching that new show on Omasa? What? Oh, yeah. Uh, I'm I'm And yeah. Oh, the uh Oh, the sushi sampler platter that the chef

chef's choice of sushi. Okay. To go back to the movie. So, we are we are meant to believe that she doesn't um she doesn't really experience joy within with toys and she's not really uh she's really big on telling people she's 11. She's not a kid anymore and

she answers the phone, she's making dinner, she's at the end like a noir film. There's one moment where you see her where it just like

this isn't unspooled. Okay. Not Amy Nicholson. We don't need to hear about noir. Oh, the lighting was just like a noir film.

Remind me of double indemnity. Now in color's intention, I think what by the end of the movie, you know, the the lesson is that she has to believe in toys again and believe in the magic of childhood. Okay. But my issue with that is like, well, the fact that she h doesn't and the fact that she's older for her age, inappropriately so, and called on to be this adult in the house. Is that too old? Paul, you're going to reveal too much about yourself.

I mean, I thought that that's an indictment on the parents in the home. Absolutely.

That is not her fault. No person applaud for that. NO, NO, THAT'S THE CASE. APPLAUSE. APPLAUSE.

APPLAUSE. NO, I think I absolutely right. The dad is absentee. I'm ass. I assumed they were divorced or that he was dead. But the dad is

not present. The mom is not engaged. The sister has to go to work. And Drew is doing the lion share of work. When this sister walks out of the house into a [ __ ] blizzard with just a neon

[ __ ] killer outfit. Okay. Oh yeah, we need to We need to carve out the next picture of her outfit. It's like a beret. It's a pink jacket. It's nuts level stuff.

It's square. It's a It's the widest jacket I've ever seen in my life. It's a jacket that looks like a vagina with her head as the clitoris.

And and it's also and then the the the plastic that might have been on the toys and Babel land site. Sorry.

I might have been looking at different things. But the sister the sister works seemingly for like at um like at a five and dime, right?

They call it a five and dime, but it's also says toys outside. So it's it seemed like a five and dime toy store.

I mean, my favorite moment is Richard Mulligan, who I think is a great actor. Uh he comes he's like I told you to push the bears

and she's like I work in customer service. Like he's like he's in a m like he's doing mammoth.

He was doing Yeah. He's like push the [ __ ] BEARS. THE [ __ ] bears is what you need to push.

I gave YOU THE BEAR LEAD. SELL THESE [ __ ] BEARS. Sell these bears. I couldn't tell if it was Christmas Eve. Um

it was Christmas Eve. I mean I was so shocked. My entire personality is pretty much based on Golden Girls and Empty Nest. Just those two shows I I I I've been created from. I watch them every night back to back.

Wow. Oh, obsessed. Wait, what about Loveboat, which came on next? I don't think I could stay up for that. So, I only

I'm older than you, so I could cuz I watched those as well. Straight into Love Boat. I could not go to Love Boat. Yeah,

I stopped there. But I loved him so much. I love that character so much. To see him this way was pretty shocking for me.

Well, I mean I thought he was I thought he lecturing I thought he was great. Don't get me wrong.

He is doing and yeah and and for somebody who's not a great singer, I appreciated his song.

What was his song? Uh oh yeah. Let's time Well, here we go. Refresher. A monster piece.

Uh here we go. Let's take a Oh yeah, that's right. Oh yeah. Here we go. This is very dark crystal to share with you, dear boy. The evil scheme that fills my heart with joy. It evil theme will never cease. Cuz I have created a masterpiece. I've put in years of toil and strife.

It feels like the music isn't even sure it's a song. Like it's like like the like the people that are playing are like

I guess he's singing. Okay, we're going to There's never like it never opens up.

Do not further the plot at all, which all musical songs should. They should give you more access, more I mean, we basically get a song that is just about Cincinnati

and then monsterpiece and then that and then the other there's another one that I don't even remember.

They're all kind of talked like they're they never start. Well, when they go to dub, like I I go back to Pat Marita. When they go to dub his singing voice, I'm like, "Well, now it will be a good one." And it felt like someone doing an impression of a bad Pat Marita singing voice. It's like, "Oh, yeah. I bet you he's not a good singer. I'll do that." Yeah.

Nobody I mean, I felt like everybody I don't I mean, I'm not even sure that was his singing voice to be quite honest. It

feels like I don't know. I've assumed everybody was dubbed in this just because so many people seem to be being dubbed. Keanu is dubbed for sure when he

Drew Barmore is definitely dubbed. I mean, there they go to this world. Well, I mean, I want to talk about this world cuz we've been talking about Toy Land, which is the most monstrous place that you could ever possibly go. I mean,

this is like a like a Wizard of like you said, it's the Wizard of Oz, except that instead of going to a fantastical world of Oz, she goes into a nightmarecape of of of toys of storybook characters come to life, which are just this.

And by the way, this is like a bear out of Wicker Man. This bear is scary. Everybody's wearing like Sesame Street level costumes.

Uh you can frequently see the seams between their necks. You can frequently see human necks. Uh uh it is

there's a lot of law enforcement in this town that don't seem to be doing much.

This is chilling. We just saw before too like some of the characters are giving the physicality of like bears and then others are just walking around.

I mean people with the costume clearly built the frog head with the pipe in it because it's Sherlock Frog.

The classic fairy tale character got a Sherlock Sherlock Frog. That's raggedy. Who is that's But who is the lion with a football jersey? I mean,

WHEN THEY WOULD CUT WHEN THEY WOULD CUT TO A GROUP SHOT, that [ __ ] There's the There is

THAT THERE HE IS. OH, this [ __ ] guy's trying to I saw this and I was like, this guy's trying to get me. But here's the thing. While there are fully costume characters, they're not going the cats route where it's a human like dressed as like an animal. Then they're just regular people that look like pilgrims or like they they are

they're all story book characters. They all they're all I think they are all, you know, meant to be from stories. Uh you know, they're introduced as such. I mean, you know this classic book character.

That's the owl from the Tootsie Pop commercial, right? Old people like that joke.

Uh, I mean, it's such a bizarre world. And there and there's the uh the lion in the football jersey. The toy soldiers do come out to play, which makes it INTERESTING BECAUSE

THE LADY OH, LOOK AT HIM. OH, LOOK. Look at him. Oh, [ __ ] LOOK, no matter. OH NO.

GET HIM OUT OF HERE. OH NO. GET HIM OUT OF THERE. I SEE YOU, JASON. THAT IS THAT IS HAUNTING.

That is that is the SC. OH, THAT THAT that that's haunting. This is the closest thing that we could get to seeing Wes Anderson's nightmares. Like this feels like when Wes Anderson dreams, he sees this town and it scares him.

Yeah. They're cute. It's so crazy, too, because nobody ever asks her like, "How'd you get here?"

Yeah. Well, by the way, I mean, she gets there, she doesn't seem to have many questions. And like even

today really even even at the point when she gets her driver's license is just a cookie that says driver's license

right here. I just want to show you. Stop it. Right here that wooden soldier is crying.

Yes. Now does that mean the sweat has come out of the actor through the costume?

Is it sap or do the wooden soldiers have tear ducts? LIKE WHAT IS THIS? WELL, here's my other question. And we see these wooden soldiers displayed in the town square. Later on in the film, the toy master uh says, "Oh, what's in that closet?" And he opens it up. They're all covered in dust and cobwebs. And he goes, "They're my great my greatest joy." So, did the cobweb are they in a place where cobwebs form very quickly? Did these escape? Are there different?

Something happened, and [clears throat] I was trying to follow it. Something happened where the wooden soldiers couldn't be released until there was

until someone believed someone believed in the toys. But these wooden soldiers are okay.

Well, this is the end of the movie, I believe. This is I thought this is the beginning of the movie, is it?

I know. Okay. I think when definitely when the movie comes out is Who is that? WHO IS THAT LION? WHO'S THAT football player?

What story is that from? that I'm Tig Buckiss. I was a character creator for Dick Buckiss, a cartoon show when the Chicago Bears.

I GENUINELY WAS LIKE, "WHAT THE [ __ ] is this guy doing here?" And he's crying. And some animals in this movie do like

like like a clunch fist to eyeballs. I feel like they had a I feel like they had a bunch of costumes and then they were like, "Can we just find other costumes?" Yeah.

And so like there's a bunch of mascots just like blended in. Now I will say I watched this so I watched half of the movie in a parking

parking lot. You were asked to leave a beautiful sports and then I watched the other half with our youngest son.

Oh wow. And that was a different experience. He loved all of this. He loved it. And when he saw the cookies coming out of that guy's hat, he said, "I wish I could have a cookie in my hat." And then immediately after, I wish I had a hat.

So, and loved Drew Barry more. Loved her. Loved her. Loved her. And And then our older son came in, too. And also loved every second of it. So, this movie has an audience. I'm here to report.

Your kids are audience. Huge Pete Rose fan. That's true. I mean, let him in the hall of fame. They say this movie glorifies Pete Rose. And I'll tell you what this movie doesn't like. Like this movie does not like people who are overweight. Uh because there are so many

Oh, so many fatty jokes. So many fatty jokes. And here's the thing. This guy, Gooby, Googy, whatever his name is, Googie saves Canar Reeves from a there's a jailbreak in this movie. A straightup jailbreak. And in this moment, like Googie saves him. And he's like he said, I wrote it down. Like he says like, "Do you mean Georgie Porgie?"

Well, his name is Googie in the real world right? Is it? Is it? Yeah. There's a character in this movie named GooGy.

Googy. Yeah. SO IF HIS IF his if his story book character is going to be Georgie Porgy, why not have his name in the real world be George?

His real name is Googie. Wait, the actor's name is Googy. You know what? That's it. Show's over.

Thanks so much you guys. It was a great night. Thanks for writing. It's not worth it. It's the last episode of the podcast. Googress is a name.

WHAT? WE'RE DONE. RAP IT. WHAT? GOOGRESS. GOOGRESS. GOOGRESS. GOOGRESS. PLEASE.

Hold on. I got to go back. Goo as in G O O G G O O G Y. Goog. Like the movie. Okay. And then the last name is Gres. Googress.

G R E S S. Googress. Goog. I'm done. I have nothing to say for the ever. That's it. Goog.

You know googy grass, RIGHT? WOW. And that's an actor. It's like if anyone can sort of change their name to get away with it, it's

got me goog. Is it possible that it's Guji? I thought Googie Grass was actually the actor who played the friend in Teen Wolf, not the MTV show, the Michael J. Fox movie, but it's not. Uh oh, no, that's a different guy. Well, maybe it's not. He No, he was Francis. Yeah, Francis.

You thought his his real life name was Googy. His real knife name is Googy. Georgie Porgie.

Georgie Porgie. So Georgie the movie the in the real world in the movie is Georgie.

It is Georgie. Okay. And then Georgie Porgie. And so when Georgie rescues Kano in the fake world, he goes, "Wow, you're the size of three heroes now." It's like, "Motherfucker just rescued you. You call him fat." Like, just be like, "Thank you. You're a hero." Like you don't have to like make a

I think isn't that kind of Georgie Porgi's thing? What's the Georgie Porgie story? Put his finger in some pie.

What? Wait, but what else happened? What happened after that? Georgie weighs 17 and 12 stone with a waist of 50 in and uh he's a constant.

Are you British Wikipedia? It is. It's historic.com. Why are you measuring IN STONE? WE'RE IN AMERICA, BABY,

WHERE WE CAN'T STOP DYING. Uh yeah. Too dark. Too dark. Really? Oh, wait. Despite Despite his larger size, George also established for himself a rather poor reputation for his lusty romps with the fairer sex that involved several mistresses, leaving a string of illegitimate children when he was 23.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? HOW IS THIS STORY? Georgie is based on a real person. Oh. Oh. Oh, I see what you're saying. I I get it now. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. So, I guess he was based on Edward. Edward the first. Okay. Anyway, or or King George IV. I can't get into this British Wikipedia. It's too complicated.

Everything's left to right. I'm not going to lie. I still haven't recovered from googie.

I will never think about it. I have to take off my blazer. I'm not present. God. Now, I will say I I I do want to talk about Eileen Brennan's performance, and I was hurt that you thought it was on Buren because I was obsessed with her performance. She's so good.

I was obsessed with it. And until she said she would in hard times sell some of the children.

That made me laugh. So, I mean, yeah, I got it right here. Hilarious. I mean, yeah, she really like lays it down. Like, she's so good. And to be clear, if you haven't seen Private Benjamin, do yourselves a goddamn favor and watch Private Benjamin. Goldiehan, Eileen Brennan, next level. Go ahead.

When she says, there's a great line in here, too, where she says like, um, "My mom had too many my mom had too many kids, so they grew out of the uh the boots." Sorry, let me find

out of the shoe and into a pair of boots. Yeah, I thought that was very funny. YOU JUST HAVE a list of jokes you liked.

At a certain point, I was enjoying the movie. I was just like my children. I was enjoying every moment of it.

I was like, "That's fun. I would like to go to that jail." I mean, by the way, this uh other thing about uh Toyland is it is also uh a hollow earth movie because everything in this movie there's so much underground passage,

so much tunnels. So many tunnels. I had a question though. Were the tunnels was Was that okay? So So the bad guy uh Barnaby Barnacle um uh lives in a bowling ball.

Is that a Is that a story? No, I don't think Barnaby I don't think Barnaby Barnacle

I want to make sure. Okay, cuz I I love that though. That was crazy. And I thought I I liked the look of somehow an ominous giant um

wish it had rolled down at some point. Well, by the way, they threaten it. They say sometimes it does roll down and crash houses and then I guess it goes back.

That was Czechov's bowling ball house. YOU DON'T PUT A BOWLING BALL AT THE TOP OF THE HILL UNLESS it's going to roll down.

You want to see that bowling ball take out those cars at the end instead of that one character suiciding himself.

What I couldn't understand was they seem to establish two different places of evil, which is the underground caverns that they seem to exist in and the dark forest beyond.

Right. But we never really get to the I felt like Well, I felt like the dark forest beyond the actually Well, I thought I don't think there is a dark forest.

Now, this is interesting. I don't think there I think that he was using that as a way of sort of keeping everyone there, but I don't think there was actually there were just gates.

June, let me ask you this. Where is Pat Marita getting all that evil from? I don't know. I mean, that's the thing.

Pat Marita is a collector of evil. Well, I have a theory. Yes, I have a theory.

At the end of the movie, the it seems to posit that Pat Marita, the toy master, is in fact Santa Claus

who is wearing a Mrs. Claus outfit. No judgment. Just need to underline that. That was THE CHOICE.

WHERE'S HIS HAT? I was like, well, I don't know. It's not there. So, you think that's a Mrs. Claus? That's definitely a Mrs. Claus.

It is. I thought it very forward thinking, very cool, genderneutral Santa. I'm into it.

I fully believed that was Santa. Cuz I'll be honest, if I'm Santa, why would I ever wear a hat? It's going to blow off.

Hood all the way, baby. I got to tell you, this Santa's a little too hands-on for me because he's the little minions. Everyone's got minions in this town. His minions are like, "Uh, Toy Maker, how do we fix this doll?" He's like, "Oh, you got to put eyes on it." If they don't know the basics, like if Santa's got to put eyes on all the dolls, like shit's gone south. He has not taught them the right thing. Yeah. Uh but Santa, but he is the toy. He is Santa masquerading as a toy maker. [sighs]

I think he's both. I don't know. I think he is one to the to the world. He's like, I'm toy maker, but then he's like, but I'm also s like I feel like it's like it's like it's like

it would almost be like if if if Superman was also the Flash. It's like my secret identity is Superman, but I'm the Flash. It's like wait.

Well, no, because he's they say earlier that he's making all the toys for Santa or Santa,

right? So, that would imply that the fra the Flash works for Superman. Well, I Yeah, I'm not going to get into the specifics of the DC universe, but I'm going to say this.

I would love to. Listen, I'd love to drill down on this. I don't want to believe that Santa has a collection of evil things in a

Well, yes. Sorry. Sorry. Yes. That's what I was going to say is in his experiences as Santa, he comes in contact with evil, takes it and puts it in the earn.

Hold on. Cuz he goes into the real world. He goes into our world. He says, "I've heard of Cincinnati. You know how I go there and I deliver presents." And so in our world, he encounters evil. And so he bottles it up.

Wait, wait, but how does he encounter evil? Like cuz it's like does he go out and crime fight or is he just like does he just have an urn open like capture like let me drive around here

that movie give me that movie let me hang out at the like because there is some that's what I'm saying that's a different movie Pat Marita the toy master here's a collection of evil ready to unleash

it is a good question have other people because nobody seems phased when Drew Barrymore a human uh child arrives in toy to toy land nobody seems like what are you or who are you or where are you from or whatever. Even though there

she is from Cincinnati, um there isn't a there isn't a a an idea of good or bad uh until we reveal that bar and how is Barnaby Barnacle evil? Also,

shouldn't this movie end with him being redeemed? It's like the Grinch, but he doesn't win. Yes, he's like the Grinch or the the the villain of the story, but for it to be a Christmas movie, he should be filled with he should be he he should be redeemed, not banished to the bad forest with all of his demons.

Or he's banished in that world, but in real life, he's learned his lesson at the five and dime and is

We don't get that either. We don't get that. But wait, but hold on. Now, I need to ask you a question that I may have missed.

She didn't really shoot out the back of that Jeep. Yes, she did. Oh, she did. Okay.

YEAH, DEFINITELY. WO WO WO wo wo. Okay. All right. Well, here's What did you think happened?

Okay. I thought that she was cooking by stirring that pot and then she fell asleep and imagined everything on her couch.

So, YOU IMAGINE YOU DON'T YOU DON'T THINK SHE left the house? Yeah. Oh, so you thought it was you when THE WIZARD OF OZ SHE'S IN A TORNADO.

YES. But it wasn't like Yes. But wait. Wow. But well, hold on. Do you agree, Paul, that in the Wizard of Oz, Dorothy is in a tornado?

Yes. But here's my thought is that she was in like a winter storm and the power went out in her house and she like the antenna fell or like we don't know what the reason is, but she conked herself out. She had this vision of her going to her SISTER'S STORE.

WE SAW HER CON HERSELF out by jumping out of the back of a Suzuki sidekick on a sled AND HITTING A TREE. BUT then where like at the end of the movie? Okay, this is the end. Okay, this is my thought. Sorry. I mean, I know I'm wrong. I don't know why I'm fighting it, but I but I will.

This is shocking because I just thought that like the movie is very much about child endangerment.

Well, okay. But like so she like she Okay, there's Santa. Oh, wait. Drew Drew Barrymore. This is the age where Drew Barrymore would only star in movies in which something flies in front of the moon. They were like, "We got to get that ET shot. We got to get that ET shot in here." Um, well, I guess in my thought was like when she wakes up on the couch, she's not bruised. She's not bandaged. She's not in a hospital. This child flew out of the back of a jeep.

She is concussed. Well, at a bare minimum, you should be like, "OH MY GOD, I FLEW OUT OF THE BACK OF the Jeep. I only got a concussion." Like, that would be like,

you know what my thought was? Cuz I was concerned about that, too. They are worried about her. The mom says that we're really worried about you.

But is Googie there. But Googie is Googie is there, but the little brother's in bed. They took the time to put the brother in bed.

They should be in the hospital. She should be It's a blizzard. They're not supposed to be driving. Like I

So they went and found her body. Also, they brought it back to the house. I think they were close to home.

Okay, I WANT TO HERE'S WHAT I want to say. So when Drew Barrymore, again, 11 years old, left home alone on Christmas Eve. Okay, maybe that's the world we're living in. Okay.

Where mom's getting changed on the telephone line goes down and the um um the antenna falls off

and the antenna for the TV. The electricity doesn't go out. The TV and the phone. She puts on her winter coat and walks to the toy store where her sister lives. So they are in walking distance. Not lives.

I mean he's working. He's working. He's working. You know what I mean? But she's ALSO

SHE JUST WALKS THERE. An 11-year-old can walk there. So then if Kiana Ree is like, I'll drive you guys home. It must be like right there. It must WHY DO THEY DRIVE SO LONG?

Why do they so many verses so MANY VERSES OF THE SONG? THEY SHOULDN'T THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE I WE'RE HERE.

Here's the thing. Uh Suzuki Samurai uh can only make right turns. So, it does take a longer time.

I thought I thought they were setting up that she walked a really long time to get to that five and 10 time store cuz that's how much of a little adult she is.

That's That would make sense. I in my mind I was like, "Oh, it's small town America. They she lives 10 minutes from the store or something." You know, the equivalent of

Yeah, she never left that house. That's an absurd statement. So, you think WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. YOU THINK THAT'S AN ABSURD SHE had a So, a concussion fantasy is different than like I FELL ASLEEP ON OZ,

BUT THE SAME THING. IN THE WIZARD OF OZ, SHE DOESN'T JUST LIKE CONCUSS HERSELF AT HOME. THE THE HOUSE FLIES AWAY. SHE FLIES. DO YOU THINK THE CONCUSSION IS CREATING THE FANTASY, not just the sleep?

Nah. I mean, or she's dead. We got it. We got it. Jacob's ladder scenario. Um, all right.

All right. So, all right. All right. Let me ask you guys this. What did you think about the big fix uh when they're all getting poisoned by gas and and they say,

"I cannot believe we haven't even talked about that. They're getting poisoned by gas and the what they

This is This is nuts. They they say don't breathe it in. And if you breathe it in, the the gas is the personification of evil. So to breathe it in will turn them into ghouls or the minions of the Barnaby Barnacle, right?

Those fatus that he get to see those monsters later on. But the crazy thing is they're all yelling at each other to not breathe it in.

Correct. And in doing so are just breathing it in much like all of us in here tonight. And then Drew Barammore's solution is, hey, if we can't breathe it in, let's all sing because I'm from Cincinnati and Cincinnati has like she I'm immune to the evil gases. I immediately she goes cuz I'm from Cincinnati. But that not like cuz I'm not from your world. Not it was like not it was just cuz I am from Cincinnati. It's as if the movie because Barnicky Barnaby Barnacle is also obsessed with her. He only calls her what is it?

Like Si or Sawati. Sawati. Mhm. Sawatsky. Thank you. He only calls her Sawatsky. She's constantly saying Cincinnati. It's as if Cincinnati is a protective barrier or in another way of saying it a good thing, which I have an issue with.

Now, when what she has to do here to save them is not only have them breathe in more poison gas, but also teach them the song.

They already know it. They know it. They know it in their hearts. Yeah, they know it in THEIR HEARTS. STOP BREATHING. JUST STOP BREATHING. JUST FIGHT IT. You

too, Lisa. Nothing's happening to me. I guess I'm immune cuz I've read Cincinnati. Yes, Cincinnati. TAKE IT OFF OF ME. IT'LL HELP KEEP YOUR MIND STRAIGHT.

I come from C N C I N A T I Cincinnati. The best tongue in O. Come on, join us with good.

How does he know the lyrics? I'm sorry. Every actor in that scene deserves an Oscar.

Yes. A what must have it been like to shoot this movie on a process level? You're sitting in your chair. You're waiting. Everybody's dressed up in their weird costumes and you're like, "Do you know all the lyrics to this Cincinnati song?

Let's rehearse it one more time." I'm also like trying to figure out like what level of monster are you going for?

Yeah. So, like we're in the same movie, you know, we all have to like figure out what that's going to be. And by the way, they did.

They did. I mean, when he goes on and the sister the sister does it next. They even goes harder into turning into evil and then

and so does Gookie. Googie does it the best cuz Googie is the one that they're you think he's going to lose it. [screaming]

Somehow I don't know what it is yet, but somehow Googie is the t-shirt. I don't know.

I think that guy's face just googie. That's it. I'm also like give me that. Okay. I'm googie is not on the birth certificate. So what I'm like my mind is racing like what what is his Christian name? Like what?

It's Frank. Hold on. Somebody said it here. What? It's Frank. It's Frank. You're right. Fran. No, it's Francis. Goog born as Francis Gres Jr.

Is googie a common nickname that we've just never heard? Does anyone in this room know a Googy?

He was on the show Charm. Googie here. He was on Charmed. He was on Charmed. IS GOOGGIE HERE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. GOOGIE.

GOOGIE. All right, guys. I have how it came up. Francis Rest Jr. was born in Brooklyn, New York. And as an infant, his father called him his goooo baby. That became googie. And he was raised in Connecticut where there's a state law that if you have a stupid nickname, it's stuck. That's what he says in interviews.

Um, and he Yeah, that's it. Holy cow. Introduce yourself that way. That's [sighs]

Wow. That is like He lives here in Los Angeles. Let's get him. LET'S GET GOOGY.

FIND GOOGIE. BRING HIM TO US. WOLF HAVE TO FIGHT OFF his wife and three kids. Clara, Frank, and Gus. But besides that, we can get him. Yes, he's married to the love of his life, Clarinda Ross. But we can get him.

WE WILL RAISE THOSE CHILD AS OUR OWN. THOSE CHILDREN AS OUR OWN. You know what? Let's Let's see if anyone has some questions cuz this audience has a lot of information about Googie. Uh, a lot of questions about the movie. So, if you have a question, raise your hand and by the look of you, I'll I'll see. All right. Yeah. Right down here. You raise your hand first. What's your question?

Oh, hi. Hi. Do you get like a very weird sexual across the entire movie with like young women

and like this is great. Okay, so I'm going to repeat it just because there's no mic there.

Is there like a weird innuendo that we're getting about child brides? Go so far as to say it is not an innuendo

at all. It's plain fact. Let me BE CLEAR. IT IS NOT SUBTEXT. It is text. Yeah. THE TEXT OF THIS movie is old men want to [ __ ] younger man. marry young girls,

child brides. I mean, let's I mean, now I know we we teased it. I just feel like we have to play has this leerous scene. I think the only reason why it's so fun is because he's so good.

Hi there, beautiful. I watching you uh with the teddy bears. What do you think of running here? A charity bizarre.

Merchandise was faulty. There was no refund. The customer took a punching bag in exchange and was quite satisfied.

One thing I can say for you, Angela, your personal merchandise is by no means faulty. But when I say push the teddy bears, I mean push the teddy bears. Clear?

I'm not a salesperson, Mr. Barney. I'm customer service and I was doing my job.

Doing your job is pleasing me, which in your case would not be difficult. You know what I mean?

No, I don't. You know, for a smartl looking girl, you're really pretty dumb. Don't you know it's better business to be nice to the boss than to some pretty stock boy with his fingers in the tail?

Wow. I didn't like how he said fingers in the tail. Ooh, what a villain. What a villain.

All right, anybody else? Anybody else? Uh, yeah. Yeah, right here. Yes. Um, the movie was shot in West Germany in 1986 and at one point they build a wall and then the trolls through it. Do you think it predicted the fall?

Great question. Great question. Wow. There is Let me let me repeat it just so we have it cuz it's so good.

I mean, is that why Humpty Dumpty didn't fall off? Oh. Oh. Do not beat him up. In 1986, the movie was filmed in Germany and in the film uh they burst through a wall. Did this movie predict the fall of the Berlin?

Well, that's why um Georgie Porgy at one at one point says, "Mr. Barnacle, tear down this wall."

It was weird that they shot that lion in in a in an NFL jersey as he tried to run past the wall. Uh uh. All right. Anybody? Yeah. Okay. Yes. Yes.

Um, did you hear the implication when Mary Contur said that it's always daylight and they only seem to eat cookies and cakes?

Okay. What was the first part of that? It's always daylight. But but but you but you said something before that, right?

What's the implication of it? Okay, got it. Yeah. So, what is the implication of it always being daylight? I wrote that down, too. That doesn't seem like a a pleasant thing. That seems like what you like a torturous

hell on earth. Well, I'm assuming that for the uh story book characters, it doesn't matter, but for for Drew Barrymore's character, she needs to sleep. It's like Insomnia, that Robin Williams remake. Uh but but here's the thing also. She said that cookies are everything. Cookies are currency. They're also cookies and they're also driver's licenses. So, like, how do you know if you're eating a cookie?

Cookies are everything in this world. Cookies are for cakes. Cookies are currency. Cookies are drive. It's everything.

And the cakes that they're making, we lost 6 months of cakes, but it doesn't seem like cakes would have that long of a shelf life.

It shouldn't be out there for 6 months. Yeah. Not It doesn't look like a refrigerated area at all. No, I would agree with that.

Oh, I mean, let's be very clear, the cookie factory is not up to code at all. THE COOKIE FACTORY SEEMS TO BE MAKING CAKES.

UH, YEAH. YES. ALSO, SO MANY TRAP DOORS. EVERY building is hollow, man. This is

dripping in trap doors. Yeah. Don't talk to me. Don't point at me. Yeah, there was a roach like a like the end of a joint.

Like a real roach. There was a roach in the cookie factory. Yeah. Oh, so yeah. So, we're we're Yes, we saw that there's there's an actual roach in the movie. An actual roach in the movie.

I didn't realize you were saying I was right. I agree with you. I am right. Yeah. Over here. Yeah. What do you got?

Um, for the two actors that looked like a riffraff with a hunchback. Yes. Do you think that both of those actors auditioned for the same part and the director was like, I just got to have them both? It is interesting. So, Richard Mulligan's character is surrounded by I call them two nose faratus. Like they're they're on either side.

They um they are nose faros. They are identical. They don't do anything different except for the one suicides himself in the car chase, which is he jumps out of the car like like Dom and Fast and Furious, but to no end. Just to the to the ground. I don't know why. $10,000 for those two characters to be in Fast and Furious 10

without any explanation or or explanation brother. They come out of toy land to Fast and Furious 10 goes to toy land. They get in those little cars. They drive around and then they bring them into the real world. Boom.

I'm still shocked. Like it's one it's one thing seeing like Drew Barrymore in a little car. She's so young. But to see Richard Mulligan

in a little car that sounds like a little car in a little car that sounds like bubbles and like like old like Hannah Bar.

It definitely had banana splits vibes. Yeah. And they're all driving around a town square like there's nowhere to escape. Even when K Reeves escapes from the jail, he's not under any disguise. He just drives right through the center of town. And at the end when they're all racing, it seems like they're just racing through like like a block. They're just like, you know, it's like there's not much ground to cover. Like just get out of your car and you'll catch them.

Yeah. Just walk. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. The cars don't go fast and they're being driven by children. And the other thing is the the the car chase uh uh the our heroes all drive away and what's left is Richard Mulligan and the Noseratus just are driving in circles around a building at each other over and over and over until they crash. So wait, no, let me say something because now I'm realizing something. The so the moral like there's a lot of morals to Christmas movies, right? There's, you know, like whether it's like the most 8bit Christmas, the most important part of of of the holidays, not the gift. It's about it's about spending time with the people that you love it. you know, whether it's, you know, the Grinch

Love Actually, it's about uh uh uh your wife getting a Joanie Mitchell CD instead of instead of the thing or trying to steal your best friend's wife or going to America and sleeping with a bunch of random people. All the love actually great holiday.

All the great bits. All the great but like here the moral is, hey kids, don't grow up too fast.

Which is by the way, but that's a fine like Toy Story like there that's a fine moral prop. Well, but my problem

'8s divorce kids. That's what this movie is about. I feel like 80s divorce. Absolutely. But my problem is like I don't know that this is by choice. I don't know that she wants to be this little adult mother figure in her home. She very much. I believe she has to be survive.

Quote, "I always wanted to be a kid." That's devastating. What? That's devastating. THAT'S A LINE DREW Barry Moore at 11 years old crushes. And it's devastating. It's a devastating. I always wanted to be a kid at 11. I understood that.

Do you want to believe Lisa? Yes, I do more than anything. I guess life just made me grow up too fast.

Although I do still have my teddy. I kept Teddy. Did you hear that everybody? She kept her teddy.

Yes, I kept my teddy. Now, what I really needed to see was when we were back in present day, I really needed to see that mom like clock this

all of it. All of it. And think like, I'm going to make a few different choices.

Change needed the ch the the change of what happened in Toy Land needed to be established in the kod when she wakes up,

right? that we we would then understand her life would be made better. She would be allowed to be a child.

But hold on one second. I'm looking at this and going she doesn't even get to be the hero of the story really. I mean she helps. She helps but it's like it's not her story. Like it's like well I guess maybe that's Wizard of Oz too, right? I mean

I mean there's a world in which she comes back and says like hey mom I need help. I mean you honestly

say where's dad? And then the mom hugs her like Goodwill Hunting says, "It's not your fault. It's not your fault."

Or or it's something like like like the the the the like the bare minimum we get in the movie is that she wakes up, they have

saying bear like the least, not the bear like a teddy. There's a lot of bears. And she looks past and there's a wooden soldier as one of the gifts on the thing and it like salutes her or whatever. And that's basically it. It's like she still has a little bit of like the magic of uh uh uh these toys come to life or or whatever.

I'm just saying that she is the adult. She is ultimately the adult in toilet. Like it might as well have been all adult choices.

She wakes up on the couch and her mom's like, "I thought dinner was going to be ready.

What were you mixing?" Because you didn't clean the dishes. What's this? I heard you fell out of the back of a Suzuki sidekick. Yeah,

your father's going to be very upset when he finds us. I He's coming back. Trust me.

I wish I went to If only you would be more responsible. Your father would come back.

It's also interesting though, what's interesting to me is that they make her the middle child,

the mediator. Yeah. Yeah, because she's not like like oldest daughter's powerful force in the world and usually take on that sort of like mother motherlike energy in a household, but she's actually the middle child taking care of her older sister and making dinner for her younger brother.

Her first question when she wakes up from a couch coma is where's Johnny? Where's the little boy? I can't remember what HIS NAME IS. WHERE'S JOHNNY? SHE JUST WOKE up from a coma and is remembering because that wasn't even part of the they weren't trying to find Johnny in the beginning. Like Johnny was with the mom. Mom was getting chains on her tires. That was fine. The mom was like, "Hey, look. I know it's snowing. I got a couple more errands to run. I'll be back soon." Like the mom is not coming home. But you know, maybe what we're talking about is do we need hospitals?

But again, it's the 80s. It's the 80s. They basically were like, "Lock it off. Concussions. Karate Kid just slapped his hands again weren't a real thing.

You could get a couple of those. Um, all right. Another question from the back. Anybody in from back?

Yeah. Great. Yeah, you can say that. Is there any way where this traumatizes Keanu to basically develop the cloning technology and replicas?

Great idea. So people are hypothesizing is this character that Keano plays a prequel to what we saw in replicas where he uh must replicate his family? You know the you know I mean I I don't want to get too deep in

the car accidents. No. Over there in the back. Yeah. Right there. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Two quick things. First I'm from Ohio. Cincinnati socks. A woman from Cincinnati sucks. Cincinnati sucks. Cincinnati sucks. Cincinnati sucks. That's going in the podcast. Deon, keep it in.

I hope we never play Cincinnati. So, your whole argument that a sled is not this like influential and amazing gift for a child.

One word, rose bud. Okay. So, someone's coming after me. This isn't unspooled. Not unspoiled, folks.

Is that understand it? But that's not Nicholson. Thank you, Amy Nicholson uh for that. So, she she brings up Now, I have I have an answer for that. You said repeat the question. They're going to repeat the question. She said, uh, Paul, you say that, you know, a sled is not influential. Sis Kane. Rosebud. She said Rosebud. Sis and Kane reference. Here's what I'll say about that. When was Citizen Kane made? 1942. How How old was Citizen Kane? When Charles Foster came when he died,

how old when he was born? When was he born? What's happening right now? Let's just LET'S JUST SAY

WHY ARE YOU CONDESCENDING TO OUR AUDIENCE? YEAH, they're Let's just say this. They're hearing math.

Let's just say this watching us. Let's just Why are you yelling at us? LET'S JUST SAY THIS. In 1911, a sled would be a big [ __ ] deal. So, I agree with you. Yes. If in 1911 I was 10 years old and I got a sled, I WOULD BE LIKE, "OH [screaming] MY GOD, THE ONLY THING FOR ENTERTAINMENT IS NEWSPAPERS." YEAH [screaming] IT WOULD BE THE [ __ ] BEST. THIS IS 86. WE'RE TALKING GOONIES IN THE MOVIE THEATER. NINTENDO'S on our screen. SYLVESTER STALLONE IS KILLING RUSSIANS. YOU'RE GIVING ME A [ __ ] [ __ ] YOU AND YOUR SLED. GIVE ME A NERF GUN. GIVE ME LASER TAG. GIVE ME A GIFT.

WOW. PAUL SHEAR, THE SPIRIT OF CHRISTMAS. GIVE ME Give me Give me. WOW. Did you ever Did you ever go?

YES, I WENT SLEDDING. AND GUESS WHAT? THE OTHER KIDS HAVE [ __ ] SLEDS AND YOU TAKE TURNS.

OH, SO YOU'RE A [ __ ] [ __ ] SO YOU'RE WAIT A SECOND. SO YOU NEVER HAVE ONE. SO YOU NEVER HAD ONE.

I HAD A SLED. I HAD A SLED. IT DOESN'T REGISTER WITH ME CUZ IT'S NOT THAT BIG A [ __ ] DEAL.

YOU WERE [screaming] YOU WERE You were one of those sledless kids who's like, "Can I get a ride on your sled?

Can I Can I get a ride on your Hey, I got on your sled." Get ready, [ __ ] I'll drop this on you. I had a horsedrawn carriage. We bring that [ __ ] out in the winter and I didn't GIVE A [ __ ] ABOUT [ __ ] ABOUT

[ __ ] SLEPT AT THE HORSE HOUSE. YOU HAD OH, THAT'S RIGHT. YOU had horses. So, we would put on the [ __ ] skis on the horserawn car.

Put skis ON HORSES. THAT'S ON THE CARRIAGE. THAT'S NOT A CARRIAGE. THAT'S NOT A SLED.

I'M JUST SAYING I GOT WINTER TOYS. THAT'S NOT A TOY. IT'S NOT A TOY OF GIANT. AND NEITHER IS A SLED. THIS is insanity.

I'm really upset. I'm really upset. And I'm I'm parenting with this person. Okay,

we're the stewards of childhoods and this is very scary. I'm like I That is THIS IS WILD. THESE ARE WILD TAKES. PAUL,

anybody else got a question? Yeah, right over here. Oh, I went here, but you go there. I was uh were you hoping that Trol would burst out of the trunk at the end of

I got to talk about this character. All right, repeat. This is Troll. This is like a Dark Crystal kind of character, a Henonesesque muppet that is a a cyclops bird whose giant main eye is also a TV

and looks dead and like dead like it is unsettling. It's like the difference between creating a muppet and a statue with one moving part is light years.

BUT THE THING IS and you and and and and Richard Mulligan continues to use it in order to spy on uh Drew Barrymore and Kiana Reeves and the heroes of the story. So So that's how he's staying ahead of them. But every frame in the movie, you're looking at the gross cloudy eye of this puppet and and then like a TV screen is kind of superimposed onto it. It's disgusting. It

really is and bizarre and really and this is where I was like, "Oh, I kind of am into this in a I wish this had like a dark crystal. I wish these characters were more sketies, more scary, more creatures, but they're not. They see again, you see all the seams and all the weirdness. And yes, you're right. They put him in a box. They put him away. Of course, Trollog should come back and and maybe even help defeat his owner or his his

But that's not it's about it's not about it's not about turning the tide. It's just about

really It's not about that. It's just about him being banished. Nobody Nobody gets converted in a Christmas movie into feeling the power of Christmas or believing in toys. like the like uh Barnaby Barnacle should should be it should be him that believes in toys again so that the movie can resolve. It doesn't need to be Drew Barrimmore because he is he is the equivalent of someone who's not interested in who doesn't want he's the villain, right?

Actually, I just had a thought about something. Is it about sleds are awesome? Well, June, your movie Apic Christmas, does a kid in that movie want a sled? Doubling down.

No. What does he want? A Nintendo. Nintendo. 1986. Here are some of the toys that came out in 1986.

[ __ ] NINTENDO. THAT'S A TOY. MY PET MONSTER HAD IT. THAT'S A TOY. CAN I HAD IT? THAT'S A TOY and a friend.

QUICK QUESTION. QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, PAUL. OMNIBOT 2000 HAD IT. DO YOU THINK THAT MARY WORKING AT THE FIVE AND DIME CAN AFFORD A [ __ ] NINTENDO PERSON AFFORD to pay

was a generic toy to laser tag. It was cheaper than laser jack and I had Photon. Anyway, I had a lot of THESE SIX TOYS.

NOW, ARE you just using this to flex? Teddy Rubspin HAD IT. I HAD IT. I HAD A F THIS IS SAD. SAD.

This is so sad. Go ahead. SHERIFF COSTUME HAD IT, WANTED IT. WHY WHY DO YOU HAVE THAT BOOKMARKED?

WHY IS THAT SO ACCESSIBLE TO YOU? THAT LIST OF TOYS YOU HAD in 86, what I'm not going to do tonight is I'm not going to go back on thinking sleds are cool. Okay? I do. I think sleds are great and awesome and a lovely gift. What I'm also going to say, though, is that this is her sister. This is her older sister. This isn't She's not gonna get like the the thing of her dreams necessarily.

She still works AT THE FIVE AND DIME. YES. AND THIS IS a lovely thing for an older sister to get a younger sister.

Especially a younger sister who she feels like is behaving TOO RESPONSIBLY. SHE WANTS TO GIVE her She wants to give her a toy, something to have fun with, something to Exactly. Leave the housework. Say, "Come on."

Misogynist. Now we see Now we see put her in the kitchen to double so she understand her. Don't let her have an adventure toy. Give her a practice oven for her future oven.

I was like, let's get her a toy so she can make more food for THE FAMILY. NOT BECAUSE SHE'S NOT BECAUSE YEAH.

WOW. WOW. They need to eat. This is this this is really clearly clearly I'm right when there's other opinions out there for second opinion.

All right. Um we have placed this microphone down here on stage. We have had two people coming up here. Well, what's your name?

My name's Anna. Anna, welcome. Give it up FOR All right, here we go. IT IS NOW TIME FOR SECOND OPINIONS. [clears throat]

Drew Barry Moore wakes up in toy land where she teams up with friends and family to overthrow Barnab. 5.4 out of 10 stars on IMDb. Does it sound forgetful? Well, it was made for TV and let's go like a Christmas show. Pat Marita has the toys ready to go. Giddy up. Giddy up. Second opinions thrive on how did this get made live. Babes in toy land 2021. And we MADE IT OUT ALIVE.

YES. BEAUTIFUL. AMAZING. AMAZING. First person back. Hit it out of the park. Absolutely stunning. Thank you so much. Next one. Come on up.

Beautiful voice. My god. All right. What's your name? Uh, I'm Natalie. Natalie, welcome. That's great. You where you were saying was perfect. I love your stellar skateboard shirt. All right, Natalie, take us away. It is now time for second opinions. I'm dreaming of a crap movie just like the ones I used to watch [singing] where the Humpty Dumpties don't fall. Tell me, what's the point of it all?

AMAZING. Thank you so much. That was amazing. Thank you. Wow, we got some great tonight,

guys. I just had a moment of panic that I was like, "Oh [ __ ] am I recording this?" Because we've been doing it at home on Zoom so much. It's like I didn't I don't think I could record.

I think I hit record on quick time. I literally had that We have our amazing OUR AMAZING up there in the booth. Deon up in the booth.

It was. Just to be clear, Devin, are you recording this? Jason and June, I normally do second opinions.

Oh, what? What is this? Um, are you okay? Are you about to propose? I just want you to know, and this is for everybody in the audience and for you both know, you don't know what's about to happen.

Oh, I'm scared. I don't like surprises. Paul, what did you do? But I'm not going to do second opinions today.

I am not going to do second opinions today. I have a very special guest. I have a very special guest doing our second opinion. So, here we go.

Um, take it away, Drew Barammore. Oh, hello June, Jason, and Paul. How are you guys? I'm so excited to do this with you. Let's read some reviews, shall we? For the obscure masterpiece, um, Babes in Toyland. By the way, Kiana Reeves was just here and he sends you all his best. All right, Lynn M. Hansen writes, "Subject line, Drew Barrymore." That's right. Drew Barrymore. Drew Barrymore does a great job in this remake of Babes in Toyland. It is not my favorite, but it is very good. And then five stars. I think that's where that review was going, but okay. Ben writes, "I remember being scared of this movie when I was a kid. Those creatures and those two evil sidekick dudes really creep me out. So, I just watched it again. About 30 years since seeing it as a kid, and I'm happy to report that it's just as creepy as I remembered. I will update my review in another 30 years when I watch it again

to see if it's still as terrifying. Five stars. Jay Pensen writes, "I absolutely love this movie. I absolutely love this movie to death, but it's only on VHS. It's one of the best versions of Babes in Toyland in my opinion. If anyone knows how to get this in DVD form, let me know. I'd do anything to find it. Let me know. It would really make my holiday and year. And if you haven't seen this movie and still have a VHS, buy it ASAP. Why are YOU STILL READING? BUY IT NOW. FIVE STARS. I'm just going to go on record and say I had no idea that anyone knew about this movie and that it's exciting to see that anybody gave it a fivestar review and I bet there are a lot of one star reviews out there of it as well and I'd be interested in seeing those too. But as the person who was in this movie when I was 11 years old, we shot it in Munich, Germany for 6 months and we just had the best time ever. It was actually really

fun. And um I don't know. All I can say is that I give you guys June and Paul AND JASON FIVE STARS.

OH MY GOD, I love her so much. Rammore. Incredible. The surprise. Incredible. My Christmas gift to you both.

Thank you so much. Okay. I love her so much. And I just I just love her so much. And that is watching this movie. I was like, "God, she's so winning." And so is Keanu. Like watching the two those two child faces in this movie, it really does make it so watchable.

Can I just say something too? I just wanted like I I spent all of yesterday writing a script for Drew and Keanu because they were going to do it together.

Their interview ran too long and he had to run to another event. So at the last second like he had signed off on it. He had done it. We had them going back and forth with different reviews. But they were both the fact that they are both still like that like into it and having and friendship. I love them both

and that they're both still thriving. God, are they ever? They are thriving. God, are they ever

tick tock, Mr. Wick? Um, they're both thriving. And what's and and and I will say this, like the movie is the movie. I mean, the movie is just absurd and an absolute cavalcade of nonsense, but it's watchable because they are so as is Pat Marita. As is, and I'm forgetting the actress who plays Mary, her sister, who's great. As is Ellen Buren. Ell as is is Jerry Orbach as IS nobody puts baby IN THE CORNER. BUT LISTEN, THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE movie work because if it didn't, it would be unwatchable. And as it is, it is delightfully unwatchable because you're like, "What the [ __ ] Six months."

Six months in Germany. I MEAN, WHAT? 6 MONTHS. The whole movie takes PLACE ON A [screaming]

145 MINUTES. That's 2 hours and 25 minutes. That was the original cut. Now, here's the thing. You were people were talking about

Thank you, Paul. That was a real treat. That was incredible. That was a surprise and a real treat.

Um June and I No idea. Just so you guys know, just a surprise. Terrified. Loved it.

Yeah, I was not surprised he was. Now, ladies and gentlemen, googie, but I will say this. Um, people were saying, you know, is this a prequel to K Reeves's character in replicas? It's not, but it is responsible for Kiana Reeves learning how to ride a motorcycle. He did not know how to do it. He wanted to learn. He paid a woman there in Munich to learn a motorcycle in this. No, he just

just while just while he was there, the 6 months that he was there, he learned he now owns a motorcycle company.

Yes, this is this movie literally started that love of motorcycles. He liked motorcycles, but he learned and when he came back from this movie, his first purchase was a motorcycle. Wow.

And uh like we said, this movie came out in 1986. It's rated G. Um, it's rated G, but

there is at the end a Saving Private Ryan level of violence. The wooden soldiers come out with guns and cannons

that don't shoot like silly string or something fun and and story timey. They shoot bullets and cannonballs.

Yeah, you got it. I mean, look, there's some harsh realities here. And uh that that also speaks to Drew's character's mind. She wasn't going to envision funny confetti.

True. Bullets. Um true. The tagline of this movie, a commentary on the Vietnam War,

the quagmire of toy land. The tagline is uh is a is a kind of a clunker. Uh you must truly believe in toys, which kind of gives away the ending if that's your tagline, but whatever. THAT'S WHAT I MY QUESTION ABOUT that is it's the the idea that belief in toys

toys not toys not exactly not the Christmas spirit but also not here's h it's like toy story is it is about the toys and it isn't you know it's also about imagination and that's also what they're missing here which is the idea that you just believe in an inanimate object like that's not what we are believing in we're believing in what children can make up in their own minds and the stories we can tell.

Stories is almost more what it would be. The the the belief of the Christmas spirit or the story of Christmas or the generosity or the whatever not the the the toys themselves.

She doesn't leave with an actionable thing like she doesn't go back like she goes back home or awakes from her coma, however you want to view it, and and says, "I now believe in toys." Which I don't think that's going to change the dayto-day.

No, it's not. Like I still think that the mom's going to be like, "We need food on the table. I got to go run some more errands with your little brother."

He wants to be a commercial actor. We got to get him out there for auditions. Did you really like Did you feel like for you, you connected with her character a lot as having not had a real childhood? I I will say this. When you were and I mean I mean this in a very sincere way when you were when you were talking about that wasn't normal like her answering the phone and cooking dinner. I was like really like that

like that didn't seem like that didn't seem bizarre. Like none of that stuff read weird. was like, "Yeah, yeah, she's just a kid." Like like so that

she's just a kid who's got to get dinner done on time and make sure the little brother's taken care of and

Yeah. I mean, yeah, that that stuff seemed She also does that thing where she's like, "Ring ring ring. Hi mom. Hi, how are you?" Like where she just immediately launches into conversation.

Um, top three movies 86, Top Gun, Crocodile Dundee, The Karate Kid Part Two, uh, the other movies from 86 from How Did This Get Made? Cobra, uh, Howard the Duck, and Maximum Overdrive and Rad. So, it's a big year for How Did This Get Made? Would you recommend people see Babes in Toyland?

I would. I would, too. I absolutely would. Yeah, I think so. It's wild. It's It's wild. I'm I would argue that like I not only do I want people to see it, but I want people to see it in a volume that demands that we get the longer cut.

The 145. I want the 145. In the same way that I want Peter Jackson's 15-hour cut of get back is on YouTube. The 145 is on YouTube. And he was like, "Yes."

Hold on. By the way, that's why it's a sixmon. It was a six-month shoot. 145 2 hours and 20 minutes. And they had, you know, and but they were all

for one second. Did anybody here watch the 145? Raise your hand. Don't go crazy.

No. No. You're rational people. You're people from LA. You have other things to do. That's why Quibby was invented.

I'm just curious if someone had what I was curious. What was what did they see?

Well, um, basically there's a couple reviews that I read where people were a little bit more excited about, uh, the there's some better songs. They felt like the better songs were left on the cutting room floor.

Interesting. But again, those are people leaving five star reviews for Babes in Toyland. So, I'm not really judging their taste as an arbiter of mine, but I will say this much. Um, what I love about this movie is, and we talked about this before, like whether it's like Valyrian and a Thousand Planets or Jupiter Ascending, whatever we watch her, it's like I like [ __ ] weird. Like, like this is a kids movie. Like they will never make like a movie this weird. You'll never have the peering Humpty Dumpty like yay.

Yeah. Oh, by the way, just while we're at it, someone go home, make that GIF. Yeah.

GIF. GIF. GIF. GIF. Make that GIF. I want that gift of Humpty Dumpty peering out.

Put it up on the whatever. Well, we have done it. It's our first live show back.

Felt great. Jason June, I'm Tall John. Holy [ __ ] A big thank you to Deon up in the booth. Our producer Molly Reynolds, our producer Cody Fiser, um, all the people who make this work, Averil Hley for finding this movie and sticking with it for three years. uh Nick Kylie uh who does all of our amazing research. And now I will say this, Jason, uh and July Diaz. July Diaz who is our MVP, our person who listens through the whole thing, always getting Kyle Waldron and of course Zach Malise, uh who's a ghost to Craig T. Nelson on Instagram, who does all of our art. Jason June, what do we want to promote? What do we want to talk about?

I I I I don't need to plug anything. I just want to say I'm just so happy to be here and thank you for wearing your masks and coming out and I'm just thrilled to be at a live show. It's going to say the exact same thing. I was just going to say thank you, the live audience, for coming to this show and welcoming us back because I'll be honest, there is nothing literally nothing that I have missed more than standing on sitting on stage with you guys talking to you [ __ ] idiots about some piece of nonsense. It's

true. It is. And so this is incredible. Yeah. Thank you for making this happen. And I want to I want to add I want to add uh one more thing to that which is I want to thank the amazing staff here at Largo who run such an amazing theater. They put on that. They take care of people. Yeah. because I one of my big fears when the pandemic happened and we talked about Flanny and Largo so much because I was so we were so terrified about what was going to happen to the space and uh they just run a beautiful theater here and I am so I I walked in and I wanted to cry because I'm so thrilled that they're here and encourage you all to continue to support the other shows that are here. I'm sure you do but please check them out. It's a miracle environment.

I'm so glad that they're still here. This is our home. So, please support our home.

Be nice to all these people. Come back and see shows. Uh, like we said, Jason and I, we perform improv here. Uh, you can check it out. It's Dinosaur. But, thank you for being here. Thank you for coming. And thank you for for being you babes in toy land forever. WE WILL NOW POSE FOR A PICTURE. We'll give you a picture.

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Babes in Toyland LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)"?

Drew Barrymore (Guest).

What is discussed in "Babes in Toyland LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)"?

In order: 0:00 Babes in Toyland, Eileen Brennan, 8bit Christmas, Private Benjamin; 10:00 Babes in Toyland, Master Disguise; 20:00 Quibi; 40:00 Drew Barrymore, Eileen Brennan, Private Benjamin; 50:00 Drew Barrymore; 1:00:00 Drew Barrymore, 8bit Christmas; 1:10:00 Drew Barrymore; 1:20:00 Babes in Toyland, Drew Barrymore; 1:30:00 Babes in Toyland.

What is mentioned in this How Did This Get Made? episode?

8 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Babes in Toyland, Drew Barrymore, Pat Morita, Eileen Brennan, 8bit Christmas, Private Benjamin. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Babes in Toyland LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)"?

The episode runs 1 h 35 min; the transcript is about 16,932 words in 466 timestamped sections.

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