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Deadfall LIVE! w/ Chelsea Peretti (HDTGM Matinee)

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Deadfall LIVE! w/ Chelsea Peretti (HDTGM Matinee)", an episode of How Did This Get Made? published September 23, 2025 (1 h 14 min, about 11,998 words). It mentions 10 people, works and ideas, including Nicholas Cage, Deadfall, Jason Manzukas, June Diane Raphael, Michael Bean.

What this episode is about

The discussion revolves around the film "Deadfall," featuring Nicolas Cage in a wildly chaotic role that blends elements of thriller and dark humor. The hosts express their surprise and delight at the film's unexpected twists and Cage's eccentric performance, highlighting how each scene escalates the film's absurdity and intrigue.

Key takeaways

  • Deadfall is the hidden gem of Cage's oeuvre, showcasing his unique brand of crazy that even diehards overlook.
  • June's disdain for Deadfall might just be the badge of honor this polarizing film wears with pride.
  • Nicholas Cage's performance should come with a warning: may induce spontaneous laughter and confused expressions.
  • Is it a movie or an avant-garde improv session? Deadfall challenges traditional narrative norms with wild abandon.
  • Two words: pantsless balcony monsters. Proof that the weirdest experiences often make for the best movie nights.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Deadfall, Nicholas Cage, Jason Manzukas, Wilturn Theater
  2. – 20:00: Deadfall, Nicholas Cage, June Diane Raphael, Green Book
  3. – 30:00: Nicholas Cage, Michael Bean, Charlie Sheen
  4. – 40:00: Nicholas Cage, Michael Bean, Deadfall
  5. – 1:00:00: Charlie Sheen, Deadfall, Mark Twain, Nicholas Cage
  6. – 1:10:00: Nicholas Cage, Deadfall
  7. – 1:13:33: Deadfall, Nicholas Cage

Notable quotes from "Deadfall LIVE! w/ Chelsea Peretti (HDTGM Matinee)"

  • It's like an executive at Lifetime decided, Hey, we should make a Quentyn Tarantino movie. We saw Deadfall, so you know what that means.
    about Deadfall · at
  • We are live at the Wilturn Theater to talk about Deadfall.
    about Wilturn Theater · at
  • You can't. This was Where was this?
    about Jason Manzukas · at
  • Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome my second co-host, the lovely June Diane Rafield.
    about June Diane Raphael · at
  • Nicholas Cage is doing something that might as well be an animated character in the middle of this movie.
    about Nicholas Cage · at
  • Person who saw Oscar Isaac and said, Yeah, that guy's got the goods. And she was right. She also is one of the greats, one of the stars of Brooklyn 999.
    about Brooklyn 999 · at
  • And Nick Valonga. His father is Tony Lip, the man that Vgo Mortonson played in Greenbook. but yeah, so this is an this is a precursor to Greenbook.
    about Green Book · at
  • I will say too to go back to the fatal lead actor role. At one point when I was watching I was like man this guy reminds me of the guy from Terminator. And I go oh it is the guy from Terminator. Michael Bean is like he's in Aliens.
    about Michael Bean · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Nicholas Cage — Person · Referenced actor / subject of discussion · 20 mentions · first at
    Central figure in the episode’s discussion because his extreme performance in the film "Deadfall" is repeatedly analyzed, quoted, and compared to other roles.
  • Jason Manzukas — Person · Co-host / panelist · 2 mentions · first at
    One of the on-stage co-hosts reacting to and dissecting "Deadfall," providing commentary and jokes, including the Mark Twain monologue discussion.
  • June Diane Raphael — Person · Co-host / panelist · 2 mentions · first at
    Key co-host voice offering skepticism/critique of the movie, including the title discussion and reactions to scenes (sound design, sex scene, etc.).
  • Michael Bean — Person · Referenced actor (film cast discussion; actually Michael Biehn) · 7 mentions · first at
    Discussed as the recognizable lead actor in "Deadfall" (the “guy from Terminator”), prompting commentary on his career and presence in 80s/90s genre films.
  • Charlie Sheen — Person · Referenced actor (film cast / scene focus) · 6 mentions · first at
    Brought up as a surprising element of the movie—his pool-hall sequence and monologue about Mark Twain become a focal comedic beat.
    Yes. You're Well, now we're in a pool shark movie with Charlie Sheen.
  • Mark Twain — Person · Referenced author (used in a quoted monologue from the film) · 5 mentions · first at
    Mentioned because a character (played by Charlie Sheen) delivers a monologue name-dropping Twain and his book titles, which the hosts mock as likely improvised/odd.
    Yeah. He only lists titles of the books when he describes Mark Twain.

Books & papers

  • Green Book — Book · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as a work by the same writer of Deadfall, Nick Valonga.

Places & events

  • Wilturn Theater — Place · Setting · 2 mentions · first at
    Venue where the podcast was recorded live.

Media & podcasts

  • Deadfall — Media · Main topic · 19 mentions · first at
    Primary movie discussed in the podcast, featuring Nicholas Cage's performance.
  • Brooklyn 999 — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as a show featuring the guest Chelsea Petti.

Full transcript with timestamps

It's like an executive at Lifetime decided, "Hey, we should make a Quentyn Tarantino movie." We saw Deadfall, so you know what that means.

Hey everybody, now it's time for Hey everybody. Now it's time. Hello people of Earth. And hello people of Los Angeles. We are live at the Wilturn Theater to talk about Deadfall. Who's got the cake? What is the cake? Is it actually cake? We will get the answer to all these questions and more. Man alive. I cannot believe I've been alive this long. I did not know this movie existed. This should have been done year one of this show. It's so good. This is like finding treasure in your backyard. Nicholas Cage this crazy and no one told me.

This doesn't even make the clip reels of people showing you how crazy Nicholas Cage is. Um, to dissect this movie, I have to bring out my two amazing co-s. But first, let me bring out Mr. Jason Manzukus.

What's up, jerks? What's happening, Los Angeles? How we doing tonight? How we doing, balcony? Monsters. Monsters. Balcony monsters. in full effect.

Oh my god. Funny thing about the balcony monsters never wear pants, just the shirts.

Pantsless. Just putting their asses on those seats, rubbing them around, getting that Wilturn butt. Got a bad case of Wilturn butt.

Oh yeah. Uh Jason Deadfall. Loved it. You can't. This was Where was this? This is a gem. Nicholas Cage was a revelation in this movie. This was I I didn't even know this. Like, this is out there and nobody's been like, "How have you not done this?" I blame you [ __ ] for this. I also feel like this is a movie where every scene they introduce something new that tops the craziness of every scene before it.

Yes. You're like, "Well, now we're in a pool shark movie with Charlie Sheen. What? It's all about geometry, triangles,

Mark Twain, Parallelogram, Adventures of Tom Sawyer." Um, and my favorite of Connecticut, Yankee, and King Arthur's Court. No. Is that what he says? What does he say?

Yeah. He only lists titles of the books when he describes Mark Twain. Never read those books.

Never. Why would you improvise such a thing? I feel like that was clearly an improvised moment and he got caught. He's like, Mark Twain, what do I know? What do I know? Uh,

books. Should have been like books writer. You want me to talk about You want me to talk about books, right? Well, I'm going to need a pencil thin mustache.

Get me the best red suit you can find. Take the curtains down just like Gone with the Wind. Make me a suit jacket.

Stop plugging Unspooled. Don't worry about it. Controversial classic. Yes, it is.

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome my second co-host, the lovely June Diane Rafield. Heat.

How are you, Jim? I'm good. How are you, Paul? Very good. Thank you for asking. June, thoughts about Deadfall?

I mean, I had a hard time hearing you guys back there, but it seems like you enjoyed this movie. I did not.

Okay, fair point. Fair point. I did wonder, again, it was hard to hear, but I did wonder why we hadn't done it yet, and I was glad we hadn't done it yet, and I was sad that we had to do it. Would you be sad to find out we're replacing every night of the tour with this movie?

That's the tour. The tour the dead is making is making June watch this movie every night.

You know, a couple of people asked me today in my travels around the city. And you do travel.

Oh, I do. Who are you talking to? Are you on a bird by Are you just on a bird scooter rolling through town? I mean, listen, I love community. I love

the TV show engaging. Six seasons in a movie. He's not announc He's not announcing the movie.

This is not Get it together, LA. So, so many people ask me today, and some of these people are friends and people I know and some I didn't know, what's the movie tonight? And I I always think this is a sign of a terrible experience at a movie theater where I could not remember the name

and I said it's two words. It's it's one but it's all one word. Yes, it is. It is one word.

In this in this instance it is. Yes, they are two words. But it makes But is this a word? What do you I Let's bring out our guest and we'll get into it. cuz I don't want to I don't want to I have more questions about the title, but let's just

But wait, but finish your thought. You Well, but if it's one word, what does that word mean to you?

Well, we should bring up again. That's what you're saying. I want Yeah. I just I I thought you said it's a terrible experience when you go to a movie and you don't and it

Well, when you can't when you can't put the title to the movie at all. when you can't. It's like I feel like every movie we've done is called whatever this movie is.

This I will agree this has a title that is a like there are it's a benign weird nonsense thing.

Yes, I I agree. And it feels like so many movies we've done and when you said I said what is the movie we're doing?

It doesn't feel like so many movies. Nicholas Cage is doing something that might as well be an animated character in the middle of this movie. I mean,

Nicholas Cage, I believe, to be in blackface for most of this movie. I I I don't know what's doing with his deal.

I guess I mean June doesn't see performances. She just sees titles. Well, let's let's bring our out our guest Paul and then at some point I'd like to return to this conversation.

I would love to bring us back to that um because titles actually is going to come into play with our our guest and our guest has the unique distinction of having an eye for talent. She is the person who saw Oscar Isaac and said, "Yeah, that guy's got the goods." And she was right. She also is one of the greats, one of the stars of Brooklyn 999. Please welcome Chelsea.

Chelsea, welcome. Welcome back, Chelsea. Thank you. Um, speaking of titles, um, speaking of titles, this movie is called Deadfall. There are two movies called Deadfall. One with Nicholas Cage and one with Olivia Wild. You watched the Olivia Wild one. Tell us about that. I think what happened is that um one God hates me. Two uh your email I think that Gmail created a hyperlink. Is that the right terminology? Like

so I clicked the title thinking you somehow set that up. Got it. Thus it brought me to the Olivia Wild uh

Oscar Isaac. No, he's not in it. Oh, he's not. Okay. No, no, no. Then I then I wouldn't be filled with rage. But uh yeah, so I watched a whole snowy hellscape.

Was it an enjoyable movie? Were you confused why we were doing it or would it fit into the show?

I have to say it outdoes this Deadfall. Wow. I have to say you should now do Deadfall part two.

I told you every movie we do is called Deadfall. I'll say this. I think we should do regardless all the Deadfalls.

Every Dead Fall. Let's do every Deadfall and Deadpool too. Why not just put it all in there? Anything with Dead

any combination of Dead and Fall in other titles. I'll do that as well. So, let's talk about the title.

Are you sure you didn't hyperlink that? I Yes, we checked it out. It was I mean cuz that's a big mistake.

I know. Like also like and there's multiple deadfalls. Why not just spell it out really? literally put in the email to Chelsea, no, this is the Deadfall that stars Nick Cage.

I also got that email. I didn't click on the link, but if I had, I would have been just as [ __ ] as Chelse.

That's right. I clicked on the links that I sent Chelsea. They all lent to I'll show you. I'll show you after the show.

I wouldn't dream to waste everyone's time with something this minor. Just me spending hours and hours watching Deadfalls of every iteration.

How much did like during did your child do anything for the first time during the course of you watching the wrong Deadfall?

I missed him. He sang opera for the first time in At the Met. At the Met. At the Met.

He was on stage at the Met. Wow. In Italian and French apparently. And you had to watch Olivia Wild Deadfall.

Yeah. She had always like a dark lip and uh tons of CGI snow and she was just always like

with a dark lip peering through CGI snow. Well, let's talk about the title Deadfall cuz June, you have an issue with this simple merging of words.

I mean, what does deadfall mean to you? Honestly, I don't know. I'm not defending it. Like dead drop would be a term that I've heard.

I I mean maybe I'm going to make myself look a fool right now, but I don't know what that word means.

I wonder does anybody know nerds? Is there a is there a definition for deadfall that makes sense for this movie? And if so, can one of you numbs figure out how to I have somebody here. We're going to go down to the audience. We're going to go get him right away. This guy seemed very confident. Okay.

Careful, Paul. Careful. I sir, first tell me your name. Oh, hold on. My name is Clark.

This is Clark. Clark, explain to us. Ask him if he's Superman. Take the glasses off.

Take your glasses off. I'll take the glass. Oh, he is. Clark, tell us what deadfall means.

A deadfall is a type of trap in which a heavy object is triggered to catch and maybe kill or capture a uh your prey.

Whoa. Okay. Way to go, Clark. Wait, did you retain anything? a trap. A heavy trap

that's easy to capture like a bear trap. So it would be like if you set like a tree it would be like if you set a tree up to like this and somebody were to fall through the tree would the tree would fall down and kill an animal.

It's a killing trap. It's a killing trap like for like I'm assuming if you're hunting or something.

Does that make sense for your dead fall? That's a tree fall. And no, you would set it up like a human being would set it up to do it when triggered. I'm like purposeful, I believe.

But more accurately, that name seems better. I don't know. I like as he was describing it, I was just zoning out. I can't like

it was hard. I can't retain that kind of a definition cuz it's hard to think of like, well, so what what is an example of a dead fall? Clark

a tree. Go back to Clark for a second. He seems expert. Clark I I'm already giving Clark a lot of credit because first of all, he was so succinct. Uh he was right on it and we're still having trouble with it. It's not your fault. It's our fault. Yes.

Well, I I think WY Coyote uses that device quite a bit. Use a heavy rock. A lot of happy people wig and then and then attach to a rope that you pull when you see your your prey.

Got it. So like, okay, so he was saying like the wy coyote roadrunner traps. Again, a beautiful description. A heavy rock with a small twig. You pull the thing and the rock falls in. So it's a kill trap.

Is that the only definition? Does someone have a different definition? Is there another example?

Is there another example? I'm going to I'm going to predict this right now. We will not talk about this movie. We will finish this podcast. You will listen to nine ads for Blue Apron and we will only talk about the [ __ ] title. How did this get titled episode one?

The taglines of this movie were dot dot dot the ultimate con. It starts with an ellipsus.

Yep. Nope. And then because that presumes that something was the first half of that sentence. Nope. Dot dot dot the ultimate con. And the second tagline was how about what if it was just like James Con. dot dot dot the ultimate con.

Um the other one was you won't know who to trust dot dot dot. What to believe dot dot dot or where to run. Period. Um, let's talk about trivia. This movie was written by the writer of Green Book, Nick Valonga. When I saw his name on the screen, I bolted out of bed. He also plays one of the workers in the pizza coffee shop uh place as well.

Wow. Wowee. and Nick Valonga. His father is Tony Lip, the man that Vgo Mortonson played in Greenbook. Uh, but yeah, so this is an this is this is a precursor to Greenbook that you are. Wow. Wow. Which one's better?

Nick Valanga also wrote a movie called In the Kingdom of the Blind, The Man with One Eye is King, The Corporate Ladder Choker and

This is all one title. So yeah, this is we this is like a this is an interesting uh look back at where his career started and where it went to and all that sort of stuff. Um this movie is amazing because it start it it looks aggressively lowbudget and I said to June one of the things that really is really shocking to me and I couldn't figure out why is this movie so weird and it's because there's no production design and I don't mean that visually I mean it's sound design. It's deadly silent.

Yes. And it's unnerving. And you know where it's like most evident? In the sex scene.

The sex scene was basically like slow people having sex who didn't turn any music on. It was like real weird.

Well, there was something. I felt like there was also a lot of ill-fitting underwear in this movie. just like baggy undies and like

say it slower. baggy undies. I had a very bad reaction to her underwear. His underwear.

I feel like I wish it would I I want the underwear to be either very tight or very loose, but it was so very loose.

I don't want to be very loose. What's an example, buddy? No big deal, guys. I wear tone very loose on it.

Take your pants off. What's going on? Every other day you switch it up. I'm like I'm just like putting it in there with a spatula. Got to get it pulled through the pants. Paul takes his pants off and he's got incredible bloomers on. Like so loose and big.

Billowy underwear. Parachute. They're made out of a parachute. You look at Paul. It's just bunched up in his jeans. I will say to put

three yards of fabric. I have to pull them through the bottom of my pants. Conversation we get into a lot with our children where I like their underwear to be tighter.

Yeah. And and I say to June, you need to give them a little bit of space for all everything, you know?

But I'm like, let's it doesn't it all need to be contained? And I say, no. Doesn't it? Are you afraid it's that they're going to get loose?

I just want it to be It's more like pajamas. Protected. I mean, pajamas, you like to put them in like a sausage casing pajamas.

You know why though? That is because if there were ever, god forbid, a fire, they are safer in very form fitting pajamas.

But guess what? They are. It's not going to be a fire. They're in and they sleep in

There's going to be a earthquake. Oh, yeah. Not too. But they sleep in wrestling singlets, right?

Or scuba. I don't like I'm actually concerned about it right now. Paul's purchased both of them pajamas that are loose. If they're running through a burning house, there's much more of a chance of

they're going to be a Paw Patrol. Just Paw Patrol pajamas running flappy Paw Patrol pajamas. Well, like made of like like fabric based kerosene. I'm sure they all say nonflammable. Um, I will say that there is something about seeing a man in boxers in a sex scene. When he goes to grab his junk out, it's like, ooh, I didn't like it. I didn't like boxers. Just be bareassed or like you said, wear jockeyies or something.

See his hairy ass crack in this movie and I was like, what is this? Could you It is like a straight down the shoe.

Yes. I I was actually I I commend Copala for that one. Chris Cop. It went up. Yeah.

Chris Copa, Nicholas Cage's brother. It went kind of down into his butt crack and then it like went back like that.

It was like it just almost did it just to be like in case you're wondering what's doing inside his butt crack. Here's here's a peek.

Let's zoom you in there. Here's a Hey, sexy dingleberry alert. Like, this was this was a wild moment.

And she reached into his pants. Oh, you're right. That's what she she reached I remember that shot cuz again, it was sort of evocative for me. And um she reached in there and grabbed it.

She reached in like you would be reaching into like some sort of like prize chest like let me What am I going to get? Got to go deeper at the bottom. Like like as if there were other dicks that you pass around. Not going to grab. Nope. Nope. Nope. That's the one. That's the one I want.

It was like in Well, that's what happens inside a billowy underwear. That's why I'm saying keep it tight. Keep it together. Know what you're going to get.

But this movie did definitely have uh too much boob. I said TMBB. I mean the boob

too much boob. Too much boob. beg to differ. But I mean that's I just felt like it was like gratuitous and not sexy. It was just sort of like almost like an art class.

What was hard for me was this movie is and we've not really described what the movie is at all which I love by the way. But this is like the archetype is a classic film noir. He is a you know where the fem fatal seduces the guy the the guy into falling into a trap and blah blah blah

like double indemnity. Oh, did you watch it on It's almost but but one of the greatest movies of 100 greatest movies. Yeah. On the AFI top place. Yeah.

Wow. You see how I'm here talking June? June, can I talk to you? No. I I'm here talking about classic film noir the archetypes of the form you know and he just comes in with some unspooled [ __ ]

It's honestly it's a at this point it's aggressive just what did you say? No, this isn't that show.

I'm sorry. What? Did you just call June? I'm so sorry, guys. I'm so sorry. Um, and so that the the the archetype dictates that there be a fem fatal to seduce the the kind of the guy and their chemistry is a straight zero. Like there is nothing compelling about their chemistry, even remotely.

She seems like a person who has access to a fem fatal's closet, but is not the female.

She's playing dress up. Yeah. She's like, "Ooh, that hat." She's like a woman who like every Halloween is a fem fatal.

Well, this whole movie is costumed like it was like the theme is gangster. like like even that guy who comes out at the the pool hall with Charlie Sheen who's like wearing like a black undershirt and like with a cell phone on the side. It's like it looks like everyone's doing their best pick. I don't have that much at home. I think this is gangster. Yeah. Yeah, it's gangster. It's gangster. You're gangster. The idea that you said, and I did not know this, that this was directed by Nicholas Cage's brother makes so much sense as to why Nicholas Cage is allowed to do what he's doing.

Well, Jason, just to kind of put a a little bit of a the change of your mind here, he came to set in a cage dressed in a wig, albino contacts, and sunglasses because he thought it would add authenticity to the character. And then his brother told him you could not dress however you want for the part. We have people for that.

Wow. But it seems like his brother lost a large part. This is what they settled on.

This was the scaledback version. This is the version they could agree would be put to the compromise.

I will say too to go back to the fatal lead actor role. At one point when I was watching I was like man this guy reminds me of the guy from Terminator. And I go oh it is the guy from Terminator. Um Michael Bean is like he's in Aliens. He's in so many great movies of this time period. And but I I love him. I love him in this era. And I love he's such a great uh he I think he's such a great face for this period of movies that I'm like, "Oh, I feel like I never got more of Michael Bean. I want more Michael Bean."

Well, I did not want more Michael Bean. Set. Oh, interesting. I mean, I want Michael Bean in those movies. Um the original actors were Val Kilmer and uh Joanna Wheulled out right before the movie started shooting. So, these two were real last minute. uh replacements.

Wow. Um, see, pulling out really does offer protection. I know we're jumping around, but since we were talking about the sex scene, can I just play the postcoidal scene because this is one of the most disturbing revelations of the film when she asks about the locket.

What was she like? The girl on the locket. I barely remember. So why do you carry it then?

It's just kind of a reminder, I guess. Of what? Thanks. I'm still looking for like like I lied to you. It's not an old girlfriend. It's my mother.

Not an old girlfriend. It's my mom. There is in this scene, there is no score. There's not a song. There is there's nothing exists in void.

There's no like street noise like some something going by. There's no wallala. Nope. Yeah.

Car honk. It's deadly silent. It's as silent as that void. That black void that they had sex in cuz they're in a hotel room and then it's just a black void. It's like

it's like in under the skin where Yes. Scarlett Johansson puts everybody. This movie takes place in that liquid.

I want to show you that movie, June. I'm scared. I would like to be there to watch June watch that movie.

Um, no. But it's so weird that no sound is built. All right. So the movie starts off Michael Bean is in

Sorry, Paul. So what is there another person in the locket or he just has a locket with just one picture? That's weird.

Also, what did happen to his mother? And do men wear lockets? Not to not to make it

heteronormative, but it doesn't seem like That's so funny. That never even crossed my mind. like in this complete [ __ ] storm of incoherent details. I didn't even think of that.

And then he takes it off before sex. Like, hold on. But but props it up open so mom can watch him [ __ ]

He's like, I want my mommy to watch us [ __ ] I didn't know her, so it's not that weird. This gets me off. Also, um, also I felt like it is strange to have an there is a sadness to a locket that has two sides and only one side is full. Yes,

maybe she would be the other person. It's like wearing a bee fry stu ends uh best friends uh uh locket and being like I don't know who has the other half.

Absolutely. So, he's walking around with a heart-shaped locket around his neck.

Yes. Wow. Okay. It's funny to me that he thinks it's more awkward to say it's his mom than to say it's another girl here.

Like it's better, oh, I'm memorializing my mom, she died. No, he's hiding that by being like, it's a girlfriend that I carry a locket of all the time.

Or here, but hear me out. It's also like it's my mommy that I wear on my heart.

It's pretty weird. But if you're like trying to get involved with someone, you take that. I mean, they both suck, but

both are red flags. Yeah, they're huge. huge red flags. I mean, good thing uh that she doesn't have much of a sensibility because she's dating Nick Cage when we meet her. So, I think her bar is set very low.

And just to get into Nick Cage in this world, Nick Cage in this movie, wow. I mean,

it's kind of like there's not I think the tough thing about it is just like what do you say, you know? What do you say?

I know what to say. Okay. Um, phenomenal. No. Uh, I feel like his performance feels like, you know, when you're shooting something, you guys know, uh, and like it's like between takes you're joking around with the other actors, you're like, "See my line like this." And then he actually did it.

I feel like he was like, "Hey, do you dare me to do this whole movie as Tony Clifton?"

Yes. I wrote that down. You dare me to do this whole movie as Tony Clifton, I will do it. It's half Tony Clifton, half Alpuccino's Scarface. Like, I don't know what he's up to, but I'm obsessed with it. It's not in It doesn't belong in this. It's from another movie.

And it's all through clenched teeth. More particular over here. Let's go. It's like It's not He's

also like, why does he need a prosthetic nose? Like there's no reason is there. Does it come into play in any way? I think it came with the glasses like is his

is his character an insane person obvious but it doesn't seem like the world is reacting to him like oh there's there's an a nut there's a mentally unstable and

person in our midst like we have to all be quite cautious. Oh, arguably if I'm um LA James Coburn, right? Yes. The uncle. If I'm Uncle Lou or whatever,

the idea that this is your right-hand man means you're bad at being a gangster cuz he's he is he is he is unwell.

He is like everybody is so subtle, including the monkeys, Mickey Dolan. Shouts shouts to Mickey Dolan from the monkeys who's in there. Everybody's

as a pretzel salesman. They they seemingly this mafia owns a block and everyone that is in the block is part of this like weird conman mafia. But are they just conning themselves all day?

No, they're running numbers. They're running they're taking bets on like a neighborhood lottery basically. They're numbers runners or whatever in what looked to me like the farmers market on

Fairfax area. Uh, which was very strange. But like if but Nicholas like they're all doing such a good job of being subtle about the crime they're committing and Nicholas Cage is literally enormous. He's his he's dressed insanely. He's screaming all of his lines, everything. I mean, if you did not watch the movie, I'm certain there's some compilation of his scenes.

Well, I mean, you have to find it. Here's a little taste of uh Nick in the uh Nick in the bar. Here we go.

What's your problem, boy? I thought we were settled. Well, we are there, baby. There's nothing to worry about.

What the hell you bothering me for? My baby's a little cranky tonight, huh? Yeah. I don't dig looking at your ugly face. Now, your potline, he was a cool dude.

Cool enough to get the baby to burp up, 1500. I didn't jack [ __ ] He told me all I had to do was walk outside with him, shake his head, and I was even.

Are you telling me that was his [ __ ] money? Somebody's after your job, boy. I bet he even stole your woman. Look at that. Look at that. I picked that scene. I picked that scene because literally every line is a different

different voice. Different voice. Yep. Different voice. That's that. Let me be clear. That's the only take they could use. However many takes they did, they were like, "This is the only one. This is the one that makes the most sense, I guess." Uh, excuse me, Nick. I I know we're brothers, but can you not throw water in the face of the extras without telling them? And and also don't punch an extra two because in a second later he just punches a guy in the stomach and I feel like no one was aware of any of that.

It is it is it is he's basically in the middle of a noir like a a CD noir riff. A terrible CD noir riff. He's basically doing a comedia delarte character. He's playing like a clown.

Yeah. He's stated like you are in comedia. Like you're just angry, you're just sad. He's fully stated the entire movie.

I I mean I I I love though the commitment to it because no one else is doing this. Like no like it's not like it's so big. Can you imagine being in a scene with this?

Well, that's that's sort of what I'm saying. Like I genuinely think I don't think he thought this was going to be a good movie. I think he sort of is like my brother sucks. like and I'm just going to have fun. You know what I mean? Like

I think he thought this was a wellconceived Chelsea. I I would agree with you except

he made a sequel to this movie. Nicholas Cage took this character and made a sequel in 2017.

What? What are you talking about? I love it. What? What? My god. What are you talking about?

Um, is it is it called Deadfall 2: The Rise of Eddie? Let me see. Uh, oh my god.

So, so this movie comes out in 1993. In 2017, Nicholas Cage brings back Eddie with a very interesting grouping of people. Bear with it because he comes in in a little bit later, but here we go. It's worth it. You know, Mikey, I have a job for you if you want it. We're brothers. Don't worry about me. Listen, I talked to you about drinking. It's always something.

Is it true what I heard? You bought some coke. You wanted to flip it. What do you want me to say? So, you're a drug dealer now?

Give me my coke, huh? Where is it? Your brother is always getting into trouble.

It's Mikey. I owe everything to him. I think we're even. Oh, you think we're even, you and I. I know of a way where we can both earn what we deserve.

There's no amount of money that I would do that for. Wow. And again, like a what looks like a gritty crime thriller with a cartoon character with Tony Clifton in the middle of it. By the way, how does this even exist in this movie?

How we ever survive the deep fryer death, right? With no scar. No. Here's the challenge.

It looks make the third movie. This is not even This is not even 2 years old. My My question was ultimately who is that?

Yeah. Yeah. that who is like in the bus in the bus when Michael Bean is taking the bus we wreck focus to this guy and I was like huh okay well obviously that guy's part of the story

and then here he is again and he gets killed outside and did anybody ever tell me where and why the beard guy was involved

right I understood it as there was an ad in backstage that says if you had a fake beard a fake wig a tick or a voice. You could just show up and you get

be in the movie. Like I genuinely did not know. Thing I'm assuming that the uncle must have hired him. Or did his dad hire him?

Well, his dad probably hired him to keep an eye on Oh, I was the dad trying to using this guy. Okay, I get it. James Coburn and the dad hired fakebeard to kill Nick Cage because Nick Cage might kill Michael B.

Oh, got it. Right. But that's got to be it because he probably wanted to protect his son within the sit the dangerous situation he was putting his son in without his son's knowledge and saw Nicholas Cage as so erratic as to be potentially a threat to the son which Nicholas Cage was already starting to assume that Michael Bean was trying to kill him. Right. I don't know.

I don't know that makes sense. Can anyone up here take a stab at just what ultimately from beginning to end the con was? Oh yeah.

I mean I think the beginning to end like beginning of the movie the beginning. Yeah.

So he basically the dad fakes his death knowing that the son will go find his brother and then the son will start working for the brother to get involved in this big diamond uh con. And then

how would the dad know that? It's a leap of faith. It's a real Wait, was the dad

Did the dad set that up? Yeah. Did the dad set the diamond? Did the dad set the diamond deal in motion with Harry? Who do you need or whatever? Harry Harry.

Wait, the f the the first one or the second diamond one? This the the only the the macro that because Okay, so you have James Coburn and the dad, right? And in the opening scene, Michael Bean thinks he's killed him. And everybody goes their separate ways. Okay. Peter Fonda, everybody else gripe.

But he also walks out with, doesn't he walk out with money. And Peter Fonda does say to him like, "Your dad wants you to get the cake."

Yeah. So that's that's And his dad's dying words were, "Go to my brother, get the cake." Or

So that's how whatever. Like of all this, I just heard cake. Yes. Agree. The whole movie I was just like cake. And it really was like and the cake I guess again like a noiri way I guess the cake is like contains a thing like the Maltese falcon.

I thought the cake was I feel like that the cake is the the ring is in. No, the the engagement ring for the shared woman that they loved.

Right. That's the cake. It was in a cake. It was in a cake. Uh the box twisted it.

The box was a cake. Why? And why would you give somebody an engagement ring in a wedding cake? Yeah, it's confusing.

The weird thing is the cart before the horse. It's not even a It's not supposed to look like an actual cake. It's just this weird figurine. This weird cake figurine.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but Well, I thought it was supposed to look like a cake.

Well, it uh it looks like a cake, but it's like a Precious Moments figurine or something. It doesn't.

No, it Yeah, it looks like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It It doesn't actually look like a cake.

Oh, it does, though. Wait, what do you mean it doesn't look the scale? Thank you. If you saw it, you would not eat it,

right? Oh, no. No. It's in the shape of a cake. It's that It doesn't It's not like realistically a cake.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. But it's in the shape of a cake. It's like a mini cake,

right? But I don't understand what world are we in in which you're handing someone that,

right? That's saying if you're proposing if you're if you're proposing and and want to do a fun bit around like here's your dessert. It would have to look like a real like you would actually.

Otherwise, she's like, "What are you doing?" Are you presuming that the reason it looks like a cake is because it was delivered during the dessert course of a meal?

Why else would this engagement ring be? I thought it was just like a fancy ring box shape of a cake. The actual cake was also

This was the actual cake that was delivered. Um Oh, they went they went all out on that one. Look like they didn't even go to the store to buy a cake from Gellson's. They just someone in the back just slapped some stuff together.

To be fair, that does look like the cake that that woman character would have made.

Absolutely. I thought it was a great choice. By the way, it looks delicious. It looks so melty. By the way, I will say what an odd birthday ham in the afternoon.

Disgusting. Uh just a giant ham. Afternoon ham. Come over for some afternoon ham and cake. Gross.

Um, can I ask a question, too? Wasn't the engagement ring inside red? Yes. Was it a giant ruby?

Is that what we're to believe? That was the proposing brown. What's that? Brown. Like an odd choice.

An unfrosted wedding cake. Yeah. Like it should have at least been white. Yeah. Put some fondant on on that.

Okay. Nailed it. But I mean there there is so much going on. The the I think the con is go work for my brother and then we'll get all that money from him because at the end they get that suitcase full of money and he gives it to everybody. Everyone seems to get a small stack and then they keep the giant suitcase together. He's like we split it.

Um right. But I guess my question is right why set him up to do that? Is there no other person? I just wasn't quite understanding.

I think I felt like a long road. I suspect it was the presumption that James Coburn, the uncle, would probably welcome his nephew into his trust rather than if he tried to get Peter Fonda to go and get involved in James Cobra and the uncle's gang.

So, Do you think though that there's any world in which he could have done that without faking his own death?

Yeah. If he trust if he trusted his son, but he basically used he basically bring Why not bring him into it?

Yeah, he didn't trust him. He knows it. Well, so I think he did trust him, but he needed to make the son really mournful because who knows who's watching him. We don't

He also like set him up. So he didn't trust his acting. Yes. Yes. By the way, can we talk about the best performance of the film? That opening scene where they're doing the coke deal. Whoever's buying the cocaine is scooping it like that woman scoops dicks out of boxers. It is like I've never seen anyone taste cocaine. Like like he's throwing it in his mouth like I can see angels.

I can see angst. Is it? Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's Michael Constantine, the father from my big fat Greek wedding.

He I mean, as well as a million other great things. He sucks in that cocaine. Uh

here it's like him just almost as if it perhaps is real cocaine. Just two fingers in his mouth.

Also, two things. Hey, Chris, I'm so sorry. We did not get lights. We have two flashlights. All right, point one at each guy. We'll see what we can get.

He thought it was film noir. You don't need lights. It's supposed to be dark. Um, we haven't even gotten to

so much. Uh, I can't believe what time it is. I know. We maybe shouldn't have spent 20 minutes on the title.

The title. The cake. Okay. And I'm sorry to spend one more minute on the cake, but

I have to Can we find a picture of a cake? Yeah, find a picture of the cake. And I may need to see the cake scene.

I don't know if I can. Okay, don't worry about it. But I I want a consensus up here at least. So, we all we all think that the cake was the presentation of an engagement ring.

Correct. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. That's so crazy. So, in that presentation, okay, he's just thinking like, oh, here's your here's your engagement ring box, which was in a cake.

Yeah, I think James Cobber might have done one of these and opened the cake. No, he couldn't. It's a screw top.

It was? Yeah, he screwed it. I He I noticed cuz I felt like the actor like screwed it too much when he was screwing it. So, was he trying to hide it in the office so it was just it wouldn't look like an engagement ring box? Because when I saw that, I would walk over.

This is like when a director's directing a scene and the actor's like, I I have to ask another question about

the cake box that I'm so I'm just Why do I have to know about the cake box? Like, what is it to me?

And if it's in the safe, why does it need to be in the cake box? Couldn't it just be in a safe? The thing seems to be that that that James Coburn and the uncle had the cake box and the ring made for the woman that James Coburn and the father then stole. Is that right?

Right. Cuz at one point James Coburn and the uncle says, "You could have been my son,

which isn't how weird. That's not how it works at all. That's not how that works." And keep in mind that woman [ __ ] twin brothers. And by the way, they had they had James Coburn, but yet that picture is the most photoshopped picture I've ever seen. It looks like one picture was taken in the 70s and one picture was taken in the late '8s. And and both of the people who were in that picture were not looking at the camera. They're like veering off to the side.

I thought he was pretty hot as the uncle. Oh, Uncle Lou. Yeah, the white hair. Yeah, the white hair looked great on him. Yeah, it was better than the dark.

It was like like California was treating Uncle Lou well well, you know. Yeah. And

Uncle Lou had found love. They were going to Tahiti. He had it made. Uncle Lou though spends a long period of time. Cuz I get what they're trying to do. Re not reveal his face. Not reveal he's a twin. Although that's a big hole that you your dad would never say, "Oh yeah, my brother and I are twins." But whatever. Um so they have to hide his face. So, he's like looking out the window for an exorbitantly long period of time. There's nothing going like, "Yes, uh, so I'm glad you're here and, uh, think that that would be cool if we could talk about some stuff." And anyway, boom, check it out.

And that's where like there would be like a music sting to tell you something had happened, but it's just empty. It is the vacuum of space. Do you think there's any way he actually is his son?

Wow. A lot of agreement, June. Okay, I'll I'll go down this road because at the very end

So you think when she left with the father, she might have already been pregnant from Uncle Lou and

potentially because there's a moment at the end when the carousel is going round and you're and he's sort of like trying to figure out his relationship to his dad and it felt like the world was spinning.

Yeah. And especially because he said, "You could have been my son." Well, there's no way he could be his son unless he actually could have been a son.

Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. So, he he was right. If if she stayed with me, you would have been

And what's interesting is that the movie creates a more compelling connection between Michael Bean and Uncle Lou. Uncle Lou is like, "Come to Tahiti with us. Come live with us. Come be like be with us. Be a family or whatever."

On Uncle Lou's ticket that just says one way. I've never seen a ticket printed one way. And then his father comes in, kills Uncle Lou, and is like, "Fuck you."

And his his dad's basically like a full-on piece of [ __ ] And his hair is like just hastily darkened with shoe polish

again. It's like glistening. It's glistening. Got invited to the gangster party. It's like, I really don't have anything. And he was like, I'll put some shoe polish in my hair. That's gangster, right?

Everybody got dressed from the Tim Robinson sketch where he's got all those mafia pieces for that party. What about Charlie Sheen as the pool hustler fats?

That was I was like, "Okay, here we go." Yet another person that's revealed like we said earlier that every

character's name um his name is they call him Fats, but his name is Morgan Grip.

Morgan Grip. I was imagining him having to rehearse that line. You can call me fats.

What? What? Hang on. Sausage. Hang on. Sausage. Sausage. Sausage. Sausage. Sausage. Sausage.

Sausage. Sausage. Sausage. Why are we saying sausage? Mark, do you know why they're saying sausage?

Oh, his assistant is called sausage. Got it. Has this been worth it? Aren't you glad you ground this to a full halt just so we could figure it out. Was this a satisfying part of the podcast?

I hate you. So, um, Charlie Sheen's introduced, uh, Morgan Grip. I don't even really understand where he falls into the world ultimately, but, um, I really do think what I'd like to play is is his monologue about Mark Twain. um which uh we talked about a little bit, but uh here we go. Oh, by the way, when they're playing this pool scene, none of these shots are impressive to me. And I don't think that they're the never do you see like a ball go in.

Oh, they're not playing they're not playing pockets. They're playing like snooker or whatever. Not snooker. What's it called? What is it?

Billyard. Billyards or sausage. Sausage. They're playing They're playing sausage. No, they're just playing a different pool game that doesn't have pockets.

Okay. Well, they're playing a pool, right? Cuz he just revealed that table without

I didn't know there were pool games without pockets. Seems like there's no payoff.

Each time you have to hit like both balls or something like you have to like So lame. You also need to explain that to the audience. Like, hey, the thing that you're so familiar with, it would be like if you did a bowling scene, but it was like, no, no, no, but you never put the ball on the alley.

Cuz I was like, what am I watching you? No, no, it's it's just like the bowling we know, but there's no pins.

Yeah. You just roll a ball down a lane and a score is given cuz it's all geometry. I think this is the Mark Twain moment here. This was Sam's game. Samuel Langghorn Clemens, you know, Mark Twain,

the genius behind Huck Finn, Tom Sawyer, personal favorite of mine, a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. He used to play whenever he had writer's block.

It was good for the brain. And end of monologue. And we never we never see him make a shot in the scene. Nope.

Like we never see him and the shot in the same and the pool shot in the same camera shot.

By the way, oh yeah, but what would the shot mean if we don't know even what the game is? I guess I guess that's true. By the way, I just think it's funny to refer to an author as the genius behind because it's like you can say that but like when you see something where you don't where the genius is not certainly clear, it's like oh yeah, he's the genius behind that movie. But you know the author of the book

the guy that brought you right Tom Sawyer and the guy behind Huck Finn behind Huck Finn leads you to believe that there are other people that also like executed it as well.

That's the only scene with any music in the background. Shocked me. Oh my gosh. And then Charlie Sheen works for a man who has a lobster claw for a ham. What was this? What was this?

What was this? What was this? That guy. Here's the thing. That guy and Nicholas Cage are in the same movie.

That's true. These guys are named Rosen Cran and Gilden Stern are dead. Other movies somewhere where they're [ __ ] linked up. It's called Eddie and the Claw. And like

coming out 2020. Coming out 2020. They've both finally got their fin. This is like a Dr. Evil setup right here.

Another guy shot in a black room. There's a lot of black rooms in this movie. We don't understand. Do we understand why he has the claw hand the

nor does he ever really use it just to touch things in a weird way. It's Yeah. So he could use his other hand.

Yeah. But he's selfish and he doesn't want to learn how to use it. But if you're going to give someone a claw for a hand and he never clip like chops anything with it, know what's the point. This is Czechov's claw. Like, let's do this.

No, I did think he was going to pick up a diamond with it, but he didn't use it to pick up the diamonds.

And also, for a man like this who appears to be a diamond buyer, seller, something like that, why does he need to have like a vicious claw? I mean, we're in a world.

Put a put a loop on the end so you can look at diamonds with your hand. I mean, that's your repetitive motion.

But, right, you're saying if there's nothing there, if you don't have no hand, if you have ironically, he never chops a hand off. But, I guess you're saying just put like a giant magnifying glass on it. I mean, that's part that's the thing he uses the most

because when he has to look through the loop, the his partner or his henchman has to hold the loop up to his eye and he's got to like

because because to do his work, his claw hand is obsolete. It's a metaphor for the movie plot like over complicated, unnecessary.

But we've all been in that thing where you your doctor says, "Hey, you lost your hand. You want the claw hand." And you think that would be so cool. And only when you get home you're like, I should just gone for the normal hand.

Yeah. Guaranteed middle of This is one of those scenarios where in the middle of the night you're half asleep, you full on chop your own dick off

because you just go to hold it with the wrong hand and it's like chop chop chop. See you later. Oh my gosh. This scene leads into my favorite scene of the movie, which is the gangster's getting ready around a table as the camera spins. And holy [ __ ] you want to talk about some acting? Every actor when that camera's on them, they are giving they are like

everything. They're giving their lives. This is it. They're giving their whole lives.

That scene, I mean, that scene was masterful. Why does that woman have two long nails?

They look like coke nails. Um, they're probably for head scratching. I guess I've never seen cocaine nails. I've never seen two together.

Got it, too. Isn't it just you have one cocaine nail? I I mean, maybe one is for like Maybe it's like one is for cocaine and one is for some other snortable drug. Or what if, you know, she gets her hand chopped off like her boyfriend and she's like, "Shit, I want to get a claw hand, but I also don't want to stop doing cocaine, so I know what it is. I bet all the nails were that long." But her boyfriend chopped off a bunch of them accidentally.

Oh my gosh. This is like this this this is this Wow. This was a wow. This was a wild ride, this movie. I I enjoyed the the the abject nonsense of this trash.

What's crazy is the other deadfall. Um the central relationship has um a theme of incest and it still had a lot more dignity.

We now we have to do it because that seems to be a theme in a lot of our movies. Can I ask Chelsea, what is the deadfall in the other movie?

No idea. The trees probably much like this one. I was tuned out for much of it.

Um, let's go to the crowd. Let's see what you all have to say about this movie. All right. Um, I'm going to ask you all to do it in your best Nicholas Cage in Deadfall voice. I won't take a no. You got to present. And look, just, you know, Nicholas Cage just gives an A for efforts. That's all we're looking for. A for effort. All right. So, this person has a question. I don't I don't know if it's gonna be good. All right. Here we go.

Oh boy. I'm This is my Spidey sense of doing this show live a bunch of times. Ma'am, your name in the best Nick Cage. And then your question.

My name is Annabelle. [ __ ] [ __ ] Anyhoodles, my question is for you, darling June. The murder scene in the vat of boiling oil is so violent and so disgusting. How did you like justify that in your like brains? I don't know. That was so gross and horrible. Like wasn't that scary to everybody? And he ripped the wig off first. Like why? Like why did that happen? And like did he ingest the boiling oil into things that happened? I think it's so scary.

These are all things that my spider sense is never wrong up to the balcony. I I don't know. I found that scene too to be um erotic.

That's so concerning. All right, I am Be careful. Be careful up there. Where? Oh,

please be careful. Great. Front row here in the balcony. All right, sir. Your name in the best Nick Cage voice and your question. Let's go. Come on down to me.

All right. Hi, my name is Casey. Uh, pressure's going to be really bad, but uh, yeah, we are secret protectors. No.

What's happening? I'm walking away. I'm walking away. I was so confused. Be careful, Paul. Forget about it.

I thought I was out. I thought I was just out of breath from running up all those stairs, but then I was like, "This isn't making sense."

Oh, you got to remember to be a little bit more. You got to give him an eyeball.

Okay, we have one final question from a woman with You have to let this woman ask a question.

That's who I'm going to. Okay, that's who I'm going to. She was going to be my final one. I knew there was one person to pull us out of this.

I want to say, ma'am, you have been jumping up and down, yelling and screaming. I want you to really right now examine, is this worth it?

It's worth it. There's absolutely no way. We're going to do something a little bit different tonight. Tonight, we're only going to take one question from the audience.

Ma'am, say your name in the best Nicholas Cage voice and ask your question. My name's Jacqueline. I don't know.

Okay, so my question is this. I was so sad when he died 45 minutes into the movie. I thought that there were gonna be another Nicholas Cage twin coming into the movie. Like, was that something that you guys would totally like be down with? Like, he died out way early on.

I'm not going to lie. You burned 700 calories jumping up and down to ask that question. I mean, even when Paul was walking toward you, you didn't stop talking.

So, the question, the question is, would you be in a movie where there are twins, did we think part of the reveal would be another set of twins?

No. I feel comfortable saying no, I did not. No, it wasn't even that. She asked if we would be down with that.

Would we be down with another twin? I feel comfortable saying that was already made.

I feel comfortable saying no, I would not like it. I mean, I would be down with it.

I would be down with it. Sure. Well, because of time, we weren't able to go to the audience for questions.

That's a bummer. Let's get right down to second opinions. That's right. We have an opinion about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

Yo, I got a second opinion, and I'm so glad that you're hearing it. I just finished this movie and I was touching my experiment so much I had to hop on Amazon.com just to let you people know that this movie is the bomb. I watch this movie every night with my family and friends and then I wait for them to leave and then I watch it again top to bottom. Crazy movies are fun but I think that thought was lost on everyone. Yo, ignore the reviews. Movie critics are ruthless. Worst of them all, June Paul and Mazukus, just stop it. You're so caught up looking for logic, characters and plot, man. All of it's toxic. I'm hype and I'm lit cuz the flick is the [ __ ] I give this movie five stars. Cuz if I could, I give it six.

Wa! Amazing. Give it up for Tony. Holy [ __ ] That was amazing. Here we go. LA may not be the place for questions, but it is the place for song. Um, here we go. Now it's time for second opinions.

That is his mom. Edipus complex. Why is the O silent? Why did they have slow sex? Second opinions. I don't know why you'd have them. The plot is a turd duck. Three copalas. [ __ ] them. When your dad falls in his locker, find your uncle. Run a con together. Mickey Dolan is a bad guy. You may ask why he is not a monkey. On dead fall. Undead fall. Genevieve. There you go. Thank you, Genevie. What did I tell you? Spidey sense,

Genevieve. That was fantastic. Um, okay. 42 reviews for Deadfall on Amazon in total. It's a very low number. Um, it averages 3.6 out of five stars. There are 30% 36% are five star reviews. I'll say this much, the five star reviews are in on it for the most part in these. Um, so this one is written by Proizzle and Proizzle writes in December 17th, 2016. Dude, this movie is so entertaining. Not for those easily insulted. Five stars. insulted

like insulted by bad film making. Um Michelle Hus in February 2015 said to give the story the right number of stars for the cheesy feel to the movie minus two stars. I do mean cheesy for more twist in the story line than balloon animals at the fair. Three stars. So, now we're at one star. For the not obvious clues I saw after the fact, I felt like an idiot. Two stars. Now we're at three stars. The best part of the whole movie. Nicholas Cage. Five stars. Eight stars.

That is it. Five out of five. And then Wow. That's like that new math. Yeah. That's what Terrence Howard invented, right? Um, all right. So, this one is uh Okay. Okay. This one's a good one from Dakota. Watched it until Cage dies. Up until that point, it was amazing. Five stars.

I will say once he's gone, it is a a wor a much worse movie. Yeah. So, it sounds like you would be down for a twin. I mean, I guess I've seen him do it in adaptation, so I guess I can see it being done. I guess I'd be down with it.

And finally, we end. And finally, we end on Gordon New, who writes, "The dark scenes are blacker than noir, and the dialogue is riper than pulp fiction. Ke's character is original. His calculated overacting is as fine as parody as I've ever seen. He put some thought into the role and did a far better job than most of his work requires. The oblig the obligatory intrigue is masterfully done. The dramatic cinematography is magnificent. The musical score is straight out of history. The plot has more twists.

Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The musical score was straight out of history. Out of history.

What does that mean? Does that answer? What is that? Straight out of history. I thought this was a facicious review, but I don't think it is because

the musical score was straight out of history. And the plot has more twists than my grandma's pretzels.

Wellacted, well produced, and well edited. Enjoyable on so many levels. Five stars. Wonderful movie.

Wait, was that from Paul Wetzel? No, I was going to say it was I didn't know how to correlate it to Aunt Annie.

Oh, yeah. Um, this movie came out in 1993. Uh, the budget was Anyone want to take a guess at that budget?

$10 million. Where? Where? 10 million. And the opening weekend gross was $9,183. The domestic gross was $18,369.

And how is there a sequel? How did they get a sequel? That's crazy. I think that Nicholas K just said he wanted to do it. It ranked 252 out of all the movies that came out in 1993. To give you an idea of what was coming out in 1993, Jurassic Park, Mrs. Doubtfire, The Fugitive. This movie was beaten by Demolition Man, Super Mario Brothers, Body of Evidence, Surf Ninjas, Mr. Nanny, and Airborne. And there are only seven movies made in 1993 that made less money than Deadfall, uh, 0% on Rotten Tomatoes. And we thank our producer, Averil Halley, for bringing this movie to our attention.

Holy cow. And before we leave, I want to just April made this. It's a mashup of all the VO in the movie. I won't play the whole thing.

My favorite line was the coast was alive, but I had no time for the sights. The coast was alive.

This is just the VO all cut together. I'll just play a little bit of it and we'll put this up online. Here you go.

Secret I swore I'd uncover. The coast was alive, but I had no time for the sights. I was looking for something to tip me off. A break in the routine. A place to start the hunt. It looked like I had to pay my dues. My wild and gunk flunky [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ]

Well, at least he was a lively fellow. Shape the con or it'll shape you. Pop would say. Wise words my new friend Eddie never learned. He was the type of badass bluff man that was stuck on the high you get from the con. That's bad news. Eddie was kid stuff. Lou was the real deal. He was as clever as pop, a true pro of the high con. I saw that right away. And he had

just a little taste of just all the VO mashed. I would love it if someone would just cut together all of the Nicholas Cage lines.

I would I would watch that like I mean it's here. It's It is here, right? I think when I just Googled it, it just popped up. It just says like

Yeah. Honoring the craziest performance. Thank God. I mean, we don't have time to watch that. God, this exists.

Watch it and watch it at your leisure. It's 7 minutes. This audience is insane.

All right. Thank you, LA. You have been a fantastic crowd. All right. And that was us live from the Wilturn. A big uh thank you to Chelsea Petti who is just fantastic. We were so excited to have her back. Um, a big thank you to our producer Averil Halley for cutting these clips and finding these movies. Nate Kylie for doing all of our research. Devin who's here in the Wilturn with us. Uh, Cody Fischer, our other producer. Everybody at Earwolf. Also, Kyle Waldron for doing our amazing artwork that you see on our Instagram and Facebook page. And by the way, uh, follow us all on the social media. We love that. We love to have you there, especially the How'd this get made social media. And let's continue this conversation about Deadfall next week on our mini episode where you can give me a call at 619 P AU LSK. That's 619 Paul ask. We'll see you next time.

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Deadfall LIVE! w/ Chelsea Peretti (HDTGM Matinee)"?

Paul Scheer (Host), Jason Mantzoukas (Host), June Diane Raphael (Host), Chelsea Peretti (Guest), Clark (Guest).

What is "Deadfall LIVE! w/ Chelsea Peretti (HDTGM Matinee)" about?

The discussion revolves around the film "Deadfall," featuring Nicolas Cage in a wildly chaotic role that blends elements of thriller and dark humor. The hosts express their surprise and delight at the film's unexpected twists and Cage's eccentric performance, highlighting how each scene escalates the film's absurdity and intrigue.

What is mentioned in this How Did This Get Made? episode?

10 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Nicholas Cage, Deadfall, Jason Manzukas, June Diane Raphael, Michael Bean, Charlie Sheen. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Deadfall LIVE! w/ Chelsea Peretti (HDTGM Matinee)"?

The episode runs 1 h 14 min; the transcript is about 11,998 words in 338 timestamped sections.

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About this transcript: the episode's spoken words as captioned on YouTube, split into timestamped sections. Reclip.Me locates every person, work and idea in the text, keeps the time it is first named, and quotes the words around it verbatim. Last updated January 26, 2026.