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Jack's Back LIVE! w/ Lisa Gilroy

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Jack's Back LIVE! w/ Lisa Gilroy", an episode of How Did This Get Made? published September 19, 2025 (1 h 9 min, about 12,153 words). It mentions 10 people, works and ideas, including Jack the Ripper, James Spader, Lisa Gilroy, Rowdy Harrington, Roadhouse.

What this episode is about

"Jack's Back LIVE! w/ Lisa Gilroy" features a comedic exploration of the 1988 film "Jack's Back," which revolves around a serial killer in Los Angeles inspired by Jack the Ripper. The discussion highlights the film's plot, which diverges from typical narratives about Jack the Ripper, focusing instead on themes of sibling connection and the absurdity of its execution, with a lively atmosphere enhanced by special guests and humor.

Key takeaways

  • Jack's Back: the film that promises intrigue but delivers confusion—much like trying to decipher a Jackson Pollock.
  • James Spader's dual role shows that even a talented actor can struggle to save a script from mediocrity.
  • In a world of sequels, who knew the biggest twist would be the movie's uncomfortable connection to Jack the Ripper?
  • Largo welcomes confusion tonight, where each character acts guilty—applause for casting, but what about the plot?
  • A '90s thriller that thought it was edgy, but instead serves up retro campiness—thankfully, it’s live and not on repeat.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Jack the Ripper, Lisa Gilroy, James Spader, Roadhouse
  2. – 20:00: Jack the Ripper, James Spader
  3. – 30:00: Jack the Ripper
  4. – 40:00: Jack the Ripper
  5. – 50:00: Jack the Ripper
  6. – 1:00:00: Jack the Ripper
  7. – 1:09:27: Jack the Ripper, Lisa Gilroy

Notable quotes from "Jack's Back LIVE! w/ Lisa Gilroy"

  • Tonight's show is sponsored by New Balance, the sneakers of serial killers.
    about New Balance · at
  • IMDb says, A serial killer in Los Angeles celebrates Jack the Ripper's 100th birthday by committing similar murders. Yeah, I guess that's like the season. That's like the Rosen Cranson.
    about Jack the Ripper · at
  • That this movie was directed and written by Rowdy Harrington who went on after this movie to direct Roadhouse.
    about Rowdy Harrington · at
  • Sitting in the June chair, we have a very special guest. You know her from shows like Jury Duty, Interior Chinatown, The Studio.
    about Interior Chinatown · at
  • Cover it was like a Jack I did think it was a Jack the Ripper thing. I just thought like James Spader is Jack the Ripper. Okay, I'm in. And it really wants you to believe that for like a second.
    about James Spader · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • James Spader — Person · Referenced actor / subject of discussion · 2 mentions · first at
    Central focus of the episode’s commentary; the hosts and guest repeatedly analyze his performance and the film’s 'double Spader' twin-role gimmick in the 1988 movie discussed.
  • Lisa Gilroy — Person · Main guest (live episode) · 3 mentions · first at
    Featured guest at Largo; provides reactions, jokes, and plot interpretations while discussing the film with the hosts.
    Oh my god. this is your first time here on the show and we give you Jack's back. What's your like before you watch it, do you have any I thought it was going to be a Jack.
  • Rowdy Harrington — Person · Referenced filmmaker (writer/director of the film discussed) · 1 mention · first at
    Credited in-episode as the writer/director of the movie being covered; used to contextualize the film’s style and his later career (e.g., Road House).

Concepts & topics

  • Jack the Ripper — Concept · Core topic · 20 mentions · first at
    Central theme of the movie discussed in the podcast, with historical inaccuracies pointed out.

Media & podcasts

  • Roadhouse — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as a movie directed by Rowdy Harrington, who also directed 'Jack's Back'.
    That this movie was directed and written by Rowdy Harrington who went on after this movie to direct Roadhouse.
  • Jury Duty — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as one of the shows the guest, Lisa Gilroy, is known for.
    Break it all down. But tonight, sitting in the June chair, we have a very special guest. You know her from shows like Jury Duty, Interior Chinatown, The Studio.
  • Interior Chinatown — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as one of the shows the guest, Lisa Gilroy, is known for.
  • Dropouts Game Changer — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as a show the guest, Lisa Gilroy, recently won.
    The Studio She just won on Dropouts Game Changer and hosted After Midnight.
  • After Midnight — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as a show the guest, Lisa Gilroy, has hosted.
    The Studio She just won on Dropouts Game Changer and hosted After Midnight.

Sponsors

  • New Balance — Product · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as the sponsor of the show, with a humorous twist.

Full transcript with timestamps

Tonight's show is sponsored by New Balance, the sneakers of serial killers. We saw Jack's back, so you know what that means. to the star baby just in the Kelly that show you take a hit control shad ass and he's on the breaking cuz they cruise cuz the bad kids looking kind of nice getting Jason laid there just a bunch of movies while they making the great a Hello people of Hello people of Los Angeles. We are live at Largo for a very special How Did This Get Made. It's Paul, it's Jason, and our very special guest tonight talking about a movie that came out in 1988 called Jack's Back. And by the title, you would think this is a movie that has to do with Jack the Ripper or Jack the Ripper coming back.

or time travel or just a bunch of people getting murdered. No, none of that. It's about a brother who has like a Time Life book connection to his other brother and thinks something is up. IMDb says, "A serial killer in Los Angeles celebrates Jack the Ripper's 100th birthday by committing similar murders." Yeah, I guess that's like the season. That's like the Rosen Cranson Gildenster version of this movie. It's happening in a different part of it. Um the the tagline of this movie, 100 years ago in the city of London, in the East End slum of White Chapel, a man shocked the world by murdering, raping, and mutilating five women. He was never caught. That's the tagline of this movie.

this movie that takes place in a time in LA where Lab Bomba is playing at the movie theater. I know that because they drive by it. That line was all about White Chapel and the you Yeah, he was never caught. And we're not going to get any further into that mystery in this film at all. But man oh man, we do get double spader. Um, to break it down for you tonight, we are going to have some great guests. And our first, not even guest, but co-host is Jason Manzuk.

What's up, jerks? Let's go. Let's go, Margo. Okay. Okay. Okay. We got to talk about Spader all night. This one. Wow. Wow. Front to back, top to bottom

G to B vibes, baby. I was on board for whatever. We don't have Spader anymore. We don't have Spaders. I mean, we've got literal Spader but

yeah, we don't have anybody that's doing whatever this is. It's This is a tone poem. It's weird. It is it. Yes. If by what a mistake that he never worked with Terrence Malik.

Wouldn't that have been fascinating? I would have I mean I don't know if Terrence Mal could handle it. Here's what I will say.

Um that this movie was directed and written by Rowdy Harrington who went on after this movie to direct Roadhouse.

Yes. The producer Joel Silver. Rowdy. Yeah. Rowdy. Uh saw this and was like, "I got the guy. I got the guy." Which is odd because I couldn't make heads or tails out of it. And I loved it. I don't Yes.

What a what a magic trick. What a magic trick this movie pulled off. A movie in which every single character appeared to be guilty of something. Everybody is like, "Wait a minute." Like everybody acted like they were the killer. It It is a movie that's so confused in so many ways. We're going to break it all down. But tonight, uh, sitting in the June chair, we have a very special guest. You know her from shows like Jury Duty, Interior Chinatown, The Studio.

The Studio She just won on Dropouts Game Changer and hosted After Midnight. Please welcome Lisa Gilroy.

Yes. Yes. Welcome welcome Lisa. I don't need a big jock to hang me. I can hang myself.

Oh my god. You know, this is your first time here on the show and we give you Jack's back. What's your like before you watch it, do you have any

I thought it was going to be a Jack Black movie. I would like Jack Black to remake it. It would be great. I mean, I I was really interested in this because this is a movie that growing up I remember seeing this cover box. I remember seeing this like I've seen this and I never never took it out, but I thought from the cover it was like a Jack I did think it was a Jack the Ripper thing. I just thought like James Spader is Jack the Ripper. Okay, I'm in. And it really wants you to believe that

for for like a second. Yeah. Because this movie isn't really even about those murders at all. I mean, not neither. It's not even 100 years ago. It's not even about Exactly. It's not even about Sydney's murders. Spoiler alert. The the boss Sydney.

Yep. The big twist at the end. Now, when you Google this movie, people are like, "And the twist will blow your mind."

It really You know why? Like he's the only person left at a certain point. Yes. And he's also the only person that would ever sing start spreading the news

or or or the other old man song. But like he I don't see James James James James Vader can't even speak above a whisper. You think he's going to sing like that in the shower? It was never him.

I thought it would be like his split personality had a great like Frank Sinatra voice. Um

can I say something and I mean this with all with all sincerity. I did not realize until I cuz I wrote it down. I think minute 46 that he was now playing his twin brother.

Okay. I I I I had a tremendous amount of problems understanding double sper. It took me a minute to be like, "Docader wears a baseball hat. Bad boy Spader wears a sleeveless V-neck t-shirt."

And I believe I believe in earring. I almost got caught in the switch as well because I was like, "Oh, he just dreamt that he tried to stop the murder and was killed." And then I was like, then went on.

Why did you think that? Cuz the murder happened right outside his bedroom window.

Yes. So, we're to believe we're to believe that that that James Speder, the bad boy, Yeah.

has moved back to Los Angeles, having not talked to his brother for two years, and moves across the park for where his brother works. Well, was it even where his brother wasn't wasn't it like a gym? Cuz I feel like he got killed in an auditorium.

Wait, James Vader. Yeah. Basically got No, he got killed at the clinic where he

was also a church. You guys are so [ __ ] stupid. There is a lot of like I am also confused. This movie first of all,

one of the nurses at one point says, "We're so busy. I can't right now." They are dead. There's not a single person there. And it's the same six people who are in the bar later who are just like

I this is what was confusing me for a long time. I was like is he a cop or is he a doctor? Uh because this

is Spader Prime. Spader Prime because this Spader Prime this is his doctor's office. I've never seen doctors have their own desk set up like a police precinct.

Yes. And this office place has a bullpen. Yes. Where all of the doctors sit. And it's in like a craftsman house in Eagle Rock. I don't know what's going on at all in this movie, but I love it. I want to live in this movie. Her glasses are everything. This opening scene got me confused because I'm like, he is a doctor, I believe, but he's being chewed out like he's in a police movie. And this is the scene here just to get a taste of it.

Sit down. Sit down, Cratchet. You won't be getting paid on Christmas. By the way, was this shot during a nuclear apocalypse?

The the orange hue burning through the city's on fire. Like, is he under like a like a like a fried chicken place sign? What? That would be amazing if you looked out the window and it's just Arby's.

I feel like Tony Scott saw this and was like, "Hang on, I can do this." Got a lot of goddamn nerve. You know that.

Can you pause already? Here's the thing. Here's the thing. This movie's pace is I don't even know how to describe it other than legubrious. And Spader is setting the pace. It's as if the movie happens in real time. And that real time is slow, baby.

I I wrote down this movie took a Valium. Like the like whatever the whatever like we're just like, hey,

which is why when they're driving around LA in that vintage BMW, I'm like, [ __ ] this feels great.

So, here's the the police. At this point, again, I am not quite sure who this is. I know he's a doctor, but

he's a man who thinks he's in A Christmas Carol. He He's He's been given makeup to make his eyes like black underneath, and he's so committed with doing every acting like, "Well, I'm mad at you."

Well, I guess he was telegraphing he's the bad guy, and it did a good job. I didn't get it. We're here.

Just because of people out there call you a doctor doesn't make you one. You're still in medical school and you're working here under my supervision and approval. One more stunt like you pull today

and I'll have your ass bounce out of here so fast it'll make your head swim. Do you understand me?

By the way, he's chewing him out for there's a woman bleeding in the lobby. He goes and like puts a band-aid on her face.

And he's late for work because he's promoting bringing health care to like unhoused uh people, right?

It's even dumber than that. He's participating in something. He seems to be going on the news to spread the word that there are homeless people.

Okay. Like he's like, and you'll never believe it. Some of these people don't have houses.

And the news person's like, "What?" And he's like, "Yeah, and they're all different communities." That's the other thing, too. They're all different communities. It looks like about a 17x5 foot area. And then when he when it airs on TV and he tells people there are homeless people in Los Angeles, he gets an applause break from the fellow doctors like, "Ah, finally." Oh, yeah. Well, he like Spader Prime is it. I think part of what's hard about it is even this version of Spader, the the the doctor, the hero, the

Chicago Cubs fan who is an LA native. Inexplicable. Like we Why does he wear a [ __ ] Dodger hat? It's so easy.

Oh yeah. I'm assuming he's not from Chicago. A Spader. Well, I don't know. But he's But it's clear clearly that he is like they say, "I grew up just a little." He says these words [ __ ] Dodgers out.

And his twin brother is in all of LA's most deadly gangs. Oh yeah. But this Spader, what's so crazy is like even in these scenes, I don't trust this guy and he's the good guy. He's the good one who gets killed. And I'm like, I don't know. Sper makes me feel like this guy's a creep.

He's making you feel something, right? Oh, yeah. Always. Always. And that was my question for you, a younger person. What is your relationship to James Spader? Because boy is he a bedrock element of my teenage years? And just so the audience knows, you are a tween, right?

Yes. I'm So So I kind of grew up on like Paw Patrol and Peppa and stuff like that.

Sure. I would love it if Spader was on Paw Patrol, but I remember my dad showing me Sper on the Office.

Oh. Oh, I'm kidding. I saw Sper on the Office as Robert. It sounded real enough. It sounded real like

that really You guys felt fearful. I could feel it. Um, remember when he was Robert California?

Oh, yeah. Right. Right. So that's where I know him from. So I was like, "Oh, now he's Rippert, California.

He's got He He to me is like '8s youth actor. Like I mean there's How old is he here?

I mean, he's got to be 26. How old is he? I would even say younger than you. It's crazy how soft his lips look.

Oh, he is he is the ultimate bad boy pretty boy of the year. Talk so quiet. Yes, that's what I'm saying. We don't do this anymore.

But that's what I kind of felt like. I know you were saying it felt that the movie felt lubrious.

This this I mean again this movie participates in one of my favorite '8s tropes, which is psychiatrists, you can't trust them. Mental health professionals probably quacks. And then and then he's got he lives with his mother and he's like, "I'll shoot you, motherfucker." I'm like, what are we doing? I mean, there are some funny moments in this movie. In the very beginning, the cops are talking about this killer, the Jack the Ripper killer, and he goes, "We we must stop them."

Yeah. No [ __ ] Like, what? Like, what is the other option? It's like it was like, but it was said like,

"Huh, five people dead. They are. We got to stop this guy. The police. The police are the least relevant characters in a movie that is ostensibly about a serial killer and the police that are after him. It is so odd because they also are so cocky. The police like when they catch Spader Prime and they think he's the murderer. Like we did what Scotland Yard could never do. It's like mother this this is a very different time. Jack the Ripper happened a hundred years ago and they have no technology. You're in modernday Los Angeles and you just caught a guy and you did no investigation. It's a whole Karen Reed operation all over again. Um yeah, so these cops are cocky. Even when the two basketball playing like other doctors come, they're like he was with us the entire time playing basketball.

He's like really all the time. It's like well yeah we were in San Diego. We saw them a lot like hm okay thanks fellas.

Yeah. No no no receipts nothing. They needed no evidence there. Yeah. No evidence.

Two guys. We got it. Thanks for coming in boys. Lots of boy power in this movie. The only girl we got was Hermione Granger.

When she put on those glasses, you knew she was serious. Oh yeah. And when she used the time turner, I was like, she's going to help this kid not be abused.

Yeah. And then when she was out and about with both the Spader twins, she was like, "I'm going to bed before either of you can think of something to get us killed or worse, expelled."

When she called Spader horrid. Absolutely horrid. And then when she said, "You've got something on your nose just there."

I love when she You say one, Paul. All right. Birdy's bots. B. Sorry, Birdie. Bird's bots.

Okay. Oh boy. Spader is giving me Sper is giving me grownup Draco Malfoy vibes.

I've read these books. I wasn't like into them that much. I like watch all the movies. I was a fine fan. I get the jokes. I'm not going to be quoting any.

I get it. You don't love the books. You love her politics. Don't like it? Come talk to me in my Tesla. Now, let me tell you, I'll tell you know, for me, I always like I like the Harry Potter with Johnny Depp. That's that's where the series took off.

I am also like kind of blown away by the way uh there's a moment where they say like, "What do we know about this guy? He kills women. He [ __ ] them, but he wears a condom." And every guy and every cop is like

huge laugh. Biggest laugh of the movie. That was crazy. They go, "We know our boy wears protection." Everyone

like, "What an idiot." Yeah. They're like, they're like, "Hey, hey, if you're going to kill the girl anyways, it doesn't matter if you get a pregnant. I know. If it was me, I'll be enjoying the ride."

Now, here's what I want to reveal to you. Um, that a couple things here. that uh Jack the Ripper never raped.

Jack the Ripper. Jack the Ripper. Here's the thing. Movie set in London. Paul. Harry. Jack the Ripper.

Yeah, there you go. Uh Jack the Ripper never raped his victims. Oh, okay. Wait, what? What? What? Okay. Are you like a Jack the Ripper truther?

No, I I'm I'm finding I have a lot of movie mistakes. I also know who actually did it.

I actually know who did it. He was actually a really good boyfriend. You all you always say he was misunderstood.

He was he was um but no, but like they make such a big deal out of it and it's like it's he's doing it exactly the same way, but a cursory Google I know they don't have Google back then, but a book opening would show that that was not

at least have Alta Vista or WebCrawler. Ask Jeeves, did Jack the Ripper rape some ladies?

No, sir. You don't have to ask in a British accent. Really? That's I never used

I don't think that's how Ask Jeie Zack I thought he respected you more if you asked.

How do you How do you think you'd know that, Paul? That it was so long ago. Do you think they even checked for that kind of stuff?

Well, I would think if the whole movie's based on Jack the Ripper, they would be like, "It's identical. It's identical. He does everything identical." It's like, well, that's a an addition that you don't even need to make. It plays no part in the story.

I have to tell you something. Yeah. I don't think you should say that anymore. And I don't think you should go to parties and be like, "Fun fact, Jack the Reaper never raped anyone."

Okay? Cuz I want to say I want to say, let me tell you, stop putting that into games of celebrity.

Yeah. Like it's just like it's uh he didn't rape anybody. He was he was a smart guy. He was a good boyfriend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Cuz like Okay. I did a show at Dynasty last week and I was like asking the Listen, I'm my you know, we took a standup class together. We're

not promo shows you've already done. Hey, check it out. Last week I was phenomenal.

Is it still live streaming? It probably like to give you a taste of how bad I still am at standup. I was asking at one point I was soliciting fun facts from the audience cuz I just genuinely wanted to learn a new fact and someone in the audience was like, "I have a fun fact. Um, actually Robin Williams wasn't like that depressed before he killed himself."

Oh, and I'm just saying that's the same flavor of what you're doing over there.

It's a warning cuz I cuz we're friends. No, I appreciate I appreciate it. I just want to get the truth out there about Jack. Um, I will say that I've never been more creeped out by a box of condoms in a movie when the killer just like places a box of condoms out like he doesn't even he doesn't even break the box. It's just like, well, I'll get into this later on. It was creeped me out.

Oh, I didn't notice that. I thought it was camera film what he was putting out.

It was a B. It was But I think you can use both for both. Yeah, especially because all of his he's using a Polaroid, so you can use the rapper of the Polaroid film, that that heavy Myar wrapper or whatever it is.

And the pictures you get are beautiful. Um, you will get lead poisoning your dick though,

but it comes out very pollicesque. Um, but don't shake it. when you were talking about Hermione that the way they introduced that character, you know, she's like the girl that everyone's flirting with in the office and the creepy guy that we think is Jack the Ripper for most of the movie, the big tall guy who is the killer of of Prime Spader. Um, he's like, "You get that book that I gave you." And she's like, "Oh, thank you so much for that book. It was great." He's like, "If you like it, I'll get you another."

Yeah. It was such a It was so nonspecific. It was like it wasn't like like just books like what could the book I'll just I will buy you another book. If you like books I will buy you a book. The reveal of this guy is that he's just lowkey an amateur abortionist. That's that's his deal. Like is he like a janitor at the hospital? Like what's his thing?

I think other than hey knock do you want an abortion? I believe that he is the Anakin to the Chief's uh Emperor Palpatine. Like cuz at one point, remember when he's like cleaning out his locker, he's like, "Hello, what are you doing here? Good job. Good job." I'm like, "What is he doing there? Why is he hiding in a locker room? What's going on?"

I loved their dynamic and I was like, "Oh, I wish I'd gotten more of this, you know, because boy was that creep city." Um, but I think they were like, "You've seen him kill Spader Prime, so you think he's the bad guy." But also so weird to be like if Okay, first of all, his name is Jack. So I think they're trying to be like that could be the Ripper.

Oh, right. Yeah. And and but then also like I don't know. I imagine Jack the Ripper is like,

you know, that Jack the Ripper never raped anybody. I was going to say I imagine Jack the Ripper being I don't know, you know, an unassuming bald man of a regular height.

Just like, you know, into stuff. Wife was out of town. No big deal. Drive stuff like that.

D drives a Tesla. Exactly. It says stuff if you stuff stuff like if you want to talk about it, come sit in my Tesla with me. Um, but no, I just thought it was like weird casting choice that they cast this like 7 foot tall halfman half foosball table to like

he is so big. He's too big. Like I just felt like immediately I was like it can't be him. He's like jock jams 3000. Like

Oh, I agree. I He his head's a football and he speaks. He's too big. He's too big. His presence on screen is like forced perspective. Yeah.

Gand do because he went to that woman's apartment to give her a free not free not free abortion.

Oh, right. Yes. Right. He was going to get some snacks out of it. Um but no, he also is doing it in her apartment, which seemed weird and unsanitary, but he's going to give her an abortion. But then she's murdered.

No. Yes. Yes. Yes. And then that one lone No, you were really on an island there.

Nope. She's alive. She's alive in the movie. She lives. She survives. Fake news. Everybody lives in the movie. There was no Jack the Ripper.

I know what a dead girl looks like. And that ain't it. She's actually She's an immortal character. She can't be killed.

So am I. He does not kill her. Right. But but what hap like I guess what I'm trying to do is what happened? Did he go there, give an abortion, left and No, let me at least finish and you can tell me I'm wrong.

It's Tim. It's Tim. Oh, it's Tim. Okay, Tim. You You're allowed to talk. Um, did he give her an abortion? And then and then she he's like, "You're all done." And then he let the door open for the

He says he stepped out for something and when he came back she was Deadville. Tim.

He shows up and says, "I can give you the abortion for 200 bucks." She says, "Are we going to do it here?" He's like, "Yeah, of course." So, he gives her the abortion and then he leaves to go to the drugstore to get what he calls a prescription. I don't know who prescribed it, but when he comes back, she's dead.

Yeah. Okay. That's what I was basically saying up here. And you were like, "No, no,

that was what I was saying. He did the abortion, left, and then someone killed her." And it was like, "Yeah." So, so you know I guess is the idea that Sydney is following him around.

It's here's Sydney's whole deal. It's like he's like, "Let me kill every woman I've ever met through the clinic where I work." Like that's like me killing every man I've ever done improv with.

And also, how long do you think the police would take to be like, "It's the zip zap zop murderer."

The police The police in this movie are embarrassingly badass. Yes, they they are given the slip by everybody. They're terrible.

Yeah, they're like adults in a kids movie where they're Well, Spader is kind of giving me McCauley Kulk and Home Alone vibes in this.

And Sydney is kind of like bigger pecs. Yes. And man, when Spader's brother dies, uh, when Spader Prime dies and seboy Spader wakes up like in tidy whiteies in bed.

Oh, I that's where I got confused and I was like, "Oh, it was all a dream." And then I was like, "Hang on, I don't think it was all a dream." I rewound it. That you like.

It really was like, "Boy, did we drill down on him in that bed in those briefs?" I was like, "Give me now we're in now we're just doing like vintage spader and then put him in a convertible, let him drive around LA." I was like, "I'll watch this to the tune of like some song by a guy named Paul Saxs."

Okay, I have some info about this. If you don't play the song, this the songs from this movie. This is better than Drive. This this movie is better than Drive. All right. So, I want to do something. This This might upset you, Jason, but uh what happened here in this movie was um the director Rowdy uh wanted to get a song by Peter Gabriel. Okay.

Okay. And Peter Gabriel said no. Mhm. So he found another artist and he's like, "Can you duplicate the Peter Gabriel song as close as you can without getting sued?" So now we'll put them both together and you will see a little mashup.

Love it. That was the Yeah, I'll shout out the Peter Gabriel song is Red Rain and Stuart Copeland from The Police plays only high hats on that song and it's incredible.

I I love the music. I love the way that this movie is, but I want to go back to the Emperor Palpatine Anakin Skywalker relationship just for a second because I

I'm sorry, I'm not so familiar. So, is this one um Natalie Portman is two girls

now? She also died in childbirth. So maybe Wow. You You think You think Jack the Ripper got Amidawa

100 years ago in a galaxy far far away on the on the pre-anniversary. Um this is the only clue that we have that these two are working together.

Oh creepy. What are you doing here? Sydney, you scared me. Uh, I forgot some of my my stuff and I I needed it.

Oh, you're not supposed to be in here after hours, especially after what's already happened.

I understand. I was just leaving. Jack. Sir, I've uh I've been meaning to tell you you do good work.

Unlimited power. Thank you, sir. Now, go have some fun. Yes, sir. Both of these people are murderers. We see that. I thought that was a coded I thought that was a coded scene. Like we've been working together and you've been No,

no, I don't think I don't think it is, Tim. No, I don't I don't think it is. But I think the I think it's absolutely insane that they are both murderers and are just don't and don't know it and are just like hanging out in the same Jack's a murderer, too.

Well, he he hanged Sper. He killed Spader Prime. Well, because he thought that Span was gonna say that he was the murderer. That's self-defense. What? That was self-defense.

I mean, this is a take that only works from the front seat of a Tesla. He was like,

"What are you talking about?" He was like, "I didn't kill her. I didn't kill her." And then SP he's like, "Oh, this guy's going to [ __ ] up everything. I've been studying to be a doctor. This guy's gonna I'm going to be fucked." He's like, "I got to kill this guy." He's not listening.

Track him down and kill him multiple ways. This is This is the wildest of takes. I just think that it was a one-time thing.

That's enough. It's enough that he killed one spider. Never mind that he goes after the other one because they won't leave him alone. He's like, "I didn't do anything. I'm a good doctor. The guy likes my work. I'm just trying to succeed. I bought a girl a book. I didn't rape anybody. I'm giving out $200 abortions in the house.

Yeah, but Paul, why does that guy have a pre-made noose ready at the office? That's I Yeah, I always suggest everyone carry that, especially if you live in LA.

Okay, he he killed him in the church doctor's office, right? Okay. So So they were fighting. They're grappling over the phone. He called the police. He said, "Hello, I think I know who it what was. Hang up." And then he drags him to the other side of the church where a noose is coiled up in weight.

Well, that was after Easter services. Wait, do you think they hung Christ? I grew up Is church did you go to

Greek Orthodox? Wait a minute. A lot of people say they put on the cross. No. Well, how did they get them up there? They got a get him up

and then they throw plates at his feet. That actually makes perfect sense. The cross should just be for Christ. It's his symbol. It's like he was killed and then the church is asked to follow and to die for Christ. That's something we got to do ourselves. That's noose. That's not That's not 100%.

We should start wearing little noose around our necks. You go out with that theory. I go out with my Jack the Ripper series. We're going to make a lot of friends.

What now? Spader 2 moves to LA but seemingly is packed like Indiana Jones packs the Raiders of the Lost Ark. Like why is he packing a wooden

shipping a wooden shipping crate? He works at Foot Locker. What was that about?

He works at Foot Locker. He's working at Foot Locker or the equivalent thereof. [ __ ] has like genuine old school wooden crates in his apartment with a gun inside. It's like the kind of a crate that you order like a exotic monkey in.

Yes. Yes. Or I guess a non-exotic monkey could come in it as well. No, I meant like a little sexy one that strips.

Oh, okay. But like what is he wearing before he strips? Like an astronaut costume.

Depends what the theme is. All right. I like that. I I mean the this Do you have the hypnosis scene?

Uh yes, of course I do. Also, also, how come do we anymore describe things as stiff as a board? Like, is a board a measure of stiffness anymore?

Do we still talk in board? What are you literally talking about? Yes. See? No. See,

a board there's nothing stiffer. We still have those. We do. Yes. I don't I don't hear people talking about the stiffness of things as it relates to Everheard people go stiff as a board, light as a feather. I don't think that has changed.

You don't think so? You think kids now are still saying stiff is a board? I I don't think it's coming up that much.

Hey lady, don't don't don't get testy with me. I hear a lot of kids say stiff as an android. Um yes, but this is 19 this is 1988. Here's the uh hypnotist scene with Robert Picardo. Yeah, we love Robert Picardo.

All right, Richard, your left arm is as stiff as a board. Oh yeah, Jason's fuming.

That happened quick. I mean, absurd. Say one thing you think that's Relax your arm. Place it back in your lap.

Now, I'm going to lead you back to the clinic. It's dark. It's effective. What is it? Richard. He's

Tell me. You're so good. Richard. Richard. Richard. It's all right, Richard. It's all right. So hot. I mean that's electric to watch

right I mean but he is so compel the only other like and I mean this when I say like I do think he is one of the great actors of this generation and one of the only people who as well as having some of the most unreal good looks is willing to do Nick Cage level nonsense

at all times. Well, I was also thinking I was like, "What a [ __ ] what an incredible guy."

In a different world, too. He could have had a Christopher Walking career, too, cuz he's doing like there's an intensity there that's kind of just amazing. But I also don't understand this from a plot point of view. He is tied to his twin. I get that. I get that idea. But when he's hypnotized, he then transfers into the twin's body.

Okay. I I have to help you guys cuz you're confused. So, everybody seems to be having a problem with like the twin of it all. So, I was raised on like Olsson and Olsson detective agency.

Got it. Love it. And Lindsay Lohan playing two girls and the Olsson girls going to camp and all that stuff. So, usually what happens is one girl

Wait, are these movies still available? Not for you, pervert. Okay. One girl's British and she's rich and the other girl wears a backwards hat. Like stuff like that. It's simply easy to understand. So there and of course all twins are connected and yes if you hypnotize them they will see the murder of the other twin as evidenced by both Olins in It Takes Two.

That was a shocking scene and that's why it got an NC7 on the original uh cut. Uh here's something you should you might want to know too. Identical twins don't have identical fingerprints.

Someone's never been fingered by a twin. Cuz let me tell you, you can feel it. I thought I was. I thought I was and then I fingerprinted them afterwards.

Somewhere Somewhere someone is like, "Hang on." I I I would love that twin prank. Just one person pretending to be twins instead of two people pretending to be one. Oh, and my twin.

Oh, that's such a good idea. I was like, is that too late for me to start that? So, the whole movie is a cat and mouse between Jack the Rip. Well,

no, it's not Jack. Not Jack, right? It's a Jack, the guy that we think is Jack the Ripper.

No, Tim. But like I mean like that that's what we're But we're chasing this thing the entire time and we get to see these great James Speder fight scenes where he punches like a Hail Hitler. Like he

he punches up. I've never seen a He flips the 260lb man over his back and then ends it by double nut kicking him. He just in order to hobble the guy, he just kicks him hard in the nuts twice. Speder is never on screen for any action. No strikes, no nothing. They have scenes where his legs just come into frame. legs and hits strikes come into frame that Spader is not doing. Spader is I mean what I what I really love this movie is when he is just acting in in like in the environment like when he goes into his brother's house

and he looks at the bookshelf and he's looking at the books and they're just medical books and you think, "Oh, is this important?" No, they're just medical books. Like there's nothing telling about that. Yeah, he's a medical student and those are the books. Like there's, you know, but it's like

but it's so compelling. Even in those boring nothing scenes, I'm still like I'll watch this [ __ ] do whatever he wants.

When he like picks up a picture that I think is of himself and then looks at himself in the mirror, it's like I've aged. It's like yes, that's a you're a child.

Should we talk about this? Cuz what the [ __ ] was that picture a picture of him marrying the sex worker who got killed?

He took her to prom? Oh, what? Wait, what? I did not get that. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

I was looking at that. There's an there's even more connection. So, so, so, so wait. Okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, wa.

Spader knew Denise. Wait. So, so what? I did not put that together. He doesn't even know she's dead.

That's He does. Wait, which spader is that? Prime. Prime. Oh. Oh, okay. All right, [ __ ]

Okay, so I thought it was the other. I thought it was second scene. So, this is why Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Wait. I'm figuring it out. I'm figuring it out.

This audience is getting on my nerves. Wait, wait, wait. Okay, wait. I'm draw I I have it. I had it for a second. I understood the movie for one moment.

He's Prime Spider. He's a doctor. He's in the office. He goes He goes, "I'd like to take a closer look at that pregnant prostitute." Like a like he's interested. We go, "Oh, that's because just"

and we're like, "Oh, it's because he's going to kill her tonight on the night where he's supposed to kill a pregnant sex worker."

But instead, the twist is he's like, "I took her to prom and I'd love to say hello again.

So, I'm going to go find her personal medical file and pay her a visit at her home tonight."

Yes, I think that's I think that's now what's going on. Wait, wait, wait. No, wait. This is the night he's picked to go visit Daryl Hannah in her home

to say, "Remember me? We went for to prom together." But he runs into a coworker who was just there giving an abortion and another coworker who was just on the way out from killing her.

Wait, but he is but he's not a killer, though. He's not a killer at all. No, he just wanted to say hi.

Going to reconnect. Oh, weird weird way to reconnect because what's what's so weird about it is this because she's

a foot in front of his desk. Yeah. Why doesn't she say like Oh, they're like they're remembering prom right here.

Streets. You understand? You tell that to my pimp. Oh boy. You care about your unborn child.

He's like prom. I know her from prom. in my office now. He's like, "Wait, didn't we go to prom together?"

He's like, he's like, "Thank you, by the way, for letting me wear a blazer as my doctor's jacket."

Oh, this is so insane. It is so crazy. The movie that is again set in Los Angeles, the city where we now are,

posits a world in which every everybody lives in a threeb block radius of each other because once again, second spader moves across the park from this location.

Hermione Hermione lived half a block away from my old house. Uh, and I was I wanted to drive by today

at the Shakespeare Bridge. Yes, it was so exciting. loved seeing I loved the driving around Los Angeles of this movie.

I mean it's basically an Echo Park movie, right? I mean that's there was a bunch of stuff. There was also Hollywood and uh H there that section that's the movie theaters. Hollywood and Vine there kind of not Vine where the Cubs used to play.

Where the Cubs used to play before they moved to Chicago. Now, does he know that in that like XX theater there they this guy just sells guns or

How does he know that? Yeah, I guess he used to be in the game. Cuz he used to be a bad boy, I guess. Yeah.

So, it's like since he's left and come back, he's like, "Yeah, well, you can always buy a gun off of that guy."

Why? Why? Here's my question. Wouldn't it make more sense if there was good Spader and Bad Sper? Why isn't Bad Sper just a bad guy? Why does he work at Foot Locker? And I And it's not because he's like later in the thing he's like, "hm, look at these treads."

That's what I thought was going to happen. Look at I think I think our killer is wearing sockies. Where did my Where did my brother see Sccinies while he was getting strangled?

I think they were setting this up to be a Nickelodeon movie and then something went badly wrong because they were going to be like, "It's funny. There's a doctor brother and a shoe brother."

Yeah. And and wouldn't it be funny if they got hypnotized and had to swap lives?

The street life of of of Sper and and then the one the shoe brother's like, "I'm doing surgery. I don't know how to do this." And then the doctor brothers in the shoe store and he's like,

"Well, I can sell you shoes. It's actually Wait, you know what? I think you're right because the even the opening title sequence like the Jack's back is written in a fun font. It's not written in like Jack's back." It's like Jack's back. It also you also understand like what is Jack's back? There's like there's a character named Jack. They talk about Jack the Ripper, obviously Jack the Ripper, but that also Second Sper is back in town. He there's there's too much there's too many competing elements that are the same bit or game.

You know what else it could be? Remember the movie Jack? Yeah. With Robin Williams.

Um so that's a little boy who's in a big man's body. Can I tell you something about Robin Williams? Just something fun.

Don't give him an applause break for that. Did you do you have the scene where Spader's in his brother's apartment?

Um I do. I want to show you one thing before just uh did you guys notice this? The um the My Buddy doll.

Oh wow. In there's a My Buddy doll in the cop office. And I was like, what is that?

Do you want to tell um is it a My Buddy? Yes, it is. The striped shirt. Do you want to tell Lisa what a My buddy is and your relationship to it?

I This is something you [ __ ] when you were a kid. Oddly more disturbing. Um, it [ __ ] you.

I Yep. My buddy. My buddy. I mess He goes to my I asked. Is that why 50 Cent made a song like that? It's a joke

cuz you know the 50 Cent song. It's like my buddy, my buddy. Wherever I go, he goes. It's about a gun.

Oh, wow. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. So, isn't it so crazy the difference between like a cool girl and like guys who are not cool?

You didn't even My buddy, the doll I like. I carry my doll around. Well, I was going to tell you I begged my parents for my buddy because I had no friends on my block or anybody to hang out with and I just wanted to have a buddy.

A Now, don't you feel stupid? I feel bad. And Paul, I want to tell you something. I had a Suzie stretch. Did you guys have this or was it just like a bad Canada toy?

Whoa. I want to know. Was it like a Stretch Armstrong type of a like you could pull the

She was a doll but she had like um accordion arms. So like when she was in her resting place, she was like this.

A resting place? Wait, did she come with a coffin? Yeah. Like bring me to my resting place.

Okay. She She You can E doll comes with a wooden coffin and shovel as a board in a resting place.

A chisel and a block of granite. Make her headstone. That would have been more fun than what she was.

Oh my god. She her shoes were like secretly slippers. And so she's this big. She's like a baby basically, right? And so I could wear her shoes like feet like shoes. I could slip my feet into her feet and I could put my hands into her hands and then I'd stretch her up big like this and she'd be the same size as me but we would be face to face [ __ ] walking around the house together.

This is terrifying. Okay, this is honest to god terri What are you talking about?

I still Wait, is that how it's supposed to be? Stretchy stretch. Yeah. Is that how it's supposed to be played with or that's just what you were doing? I don't I didn't know how else to play with her and I can still remember her like hard plastic head against my head.

Whoa. I don't like it. I don't want to I don't Oh, it's on. Okay, it's on Etsy.

There she is. How about YouTube for a commercial right there? Right there. 1995. Yes. Yes. All of our dreams have come true. Full screen never misses a beat with her arms around your waist and your feet

stretches when your dance is complete. Good night stretch. What? New from Irwin.

What? Holy [ __ ] Holy [ __ ] You I mean what's just And I don't know if you remember this, but what's just abundantly clear is it just looks like she's going down on every little girl. It just looks like you fastened her head to your crotch.

That girl was too tall so you could doizes her and you That is more scary than anything that we saw in this movie. I would I would believe Susie stretch is Jack the Ripper more than

Sus Oh, another another girl has been stretched in Los Angeles. Wow. Wow. Lieutenant, we found her. She was stretched.

Stretched to death. Let's go out to the crowd uh and talk to y'all. What do you got? All right. Michael here recommended this movie. He's in the audience tonight. If you have a question, Michael, I'll come to you obviously as well. But all right, Tim, I'm going back to you. All right. What do you got? So, with the killer, it's Jack's back. He's copycatting Jack the Ripper. They're all about It's got to be tonight. It's got to be in her house. It's got to be a pregnant woman. That's the final murder. He goes to the house. He murders her.

Like, his opus is complete. The headline came true. He's got all the glory he needs. Why does he go kill Hermione?

Yeah. Like, why does he want to kill the female doctor that Spader is running around with in her BMW? Like, why? Why? because he's just I'm I think creeping on her like that's who's watching her through the window and stuff like that.

Was she on to him or something? Oh, I don't Oh, I don't know. I don't think so. Also, when he killed the woman that had just gotten the abortion, she technically wasn't pregnant anymore.

I just want to Can I just Now, hang on. Now, hang on. Well, that actually what makes sense is Mary Kelly, the Ripper's final victim, was not pregnant at the time of the murder.

Oh, okay. It's a popular claim. Oh. But there's no historical documents to prove that she was pregnant. So, this movie is

Why do you have so much so much frankly gross information about It's my hobby. My hobby is

How come all those papers are printed out from your blog? They're ju They're just photocopies of my writings. These are my writings. Yes. Hi. What's her name? What's uh your question?

I'm David. My theory is in the scene where he's getting hypnotized. Um the second half of that scene is him experiencing what happened to his brother, slipping back into that moment before he's uh where he's being killed. That's real. But the first portion of that is something that is uh totally different. It's him what unbeknownst to everybody else when he was like running with the Latin Kings, you know, when he was younger, he p he came in he came into like the habit of um autooticiation. So in that first part he's slipping into what's going on.

Let him cook. Let him cook. So the So when he's slipping back into that memory, he's like hold up this is kind of working for me. So he's he's in that moment where his brother's getting choked out and he's like getting off on it and he's actually that's his old face. He's coming as he's getting hypnotized and then after he comes he comes back into the scene and then he experiences the death of his brother.

I think you're 100% right on. Can you come here? What do you guys think? David, please come to every show and tell us which scene contained that actor's oace. Our oace correspondent, David.

Uh, yes. Hi. What's your name? What's your question? Corey. I think more attention needs to be paid on when he grabbed her by the hair at the end and she went flying.

Yes. Like into the pillows. Cuz I went around that like three times. Like, why does he have super strength? He is an old man. And I'm saying that as an old man because I bet if I looked it up, the actor playing Sydney is younger than I am currently when shooting this movie would be my guess. Uh, based on that time I looked up Wilfrid Brimley in a movie we did and he was one year older than me at the time, which I have not recovered from.

I believe Danny Glover is 44 in the first Lethal Weapon where he's too old for this [ __ ] Yeah, that's a very disturbing fact. Uh, and he also the age was a different time back then. Uh, all right. Michael, you're over here. Where are you? Yeah. All right. So, Michael's the one who brought it to us. Thank you, Michael, for uh recommending this movie. I want to make sure that you get a chance to offer up any any thoughts.

Thank you, Paul. Uh, I just want to give a shout out to my brother-in-law, Chris, who I watched this movie with last March. Um, I have

Are you guys identical? No. Brother-in-law. Brother-in-law. Yeah, it's true. Could Could be poss,

but their fingerprints do match. Weird. Don't ask my sister how she figured that out. Um,

that's right, Michael. You don't take [ __ ] from these idiots. That's right. They've been acting crazy all night. Real quick,

did you notice what the name of the shoe store was, Jason? What was it? Second Soul.

Oh, okay. Because he's the second soul of Prime Spade. Got it. Why? Honestly, this audience sucks.

I am going to believe I'm going to believe that this movie did not have the budget to do that. And there is a actual clothing this shoe store called Soul because it's like your business shoe and then your casual shoe.

All right, we'll look up that at one point. Okay, so real question. When Dark Sper is flashing back during the hypnosis when he zooms up into the hypnotist house.

Yes. When he's having his orgasm scene. When when when Robert Ricardo is hanging with his mom in a man in a mansion somewhere, he looks like it looks as though Speder has arrived at like a 1950s mansion like in the middle of the night. Robert Carter's wearing like a dress like a a a smoking jacket or something. I was perplexed. So, he flashes back and sees through Prime Spader's eyes the doctor winking at him from behind the curtain while he's being strung up. So, is he seeing it from a third person specific?

No, that's what his brother saw when he seeing it through his brother's eyes. Okay, thank you. So, he's just seeing more of the event now, including the fact that Sydney the creepy doctor was there wearing sckinies, which Spader, Bad Spader, is like, "Fuck, I shoes are my superpower."

So, that So, that means two things. That means two things. One, that Prime Sper took the time to check out the shoes that he was wearing

and that he knew that Sydney was behind the murder before he died. Well, that's the thing. He could have said, "I know it's not you. Let me down." So, I don't think it was a technical murder.

What? Cuz he knew and he didn't let on that. He knew like who? So, wait. You want justice for Jack?

Yeah. Jack was forced to Jack was forced to kill. Okay. Finally, I'm going to vindicate you a little bit. Um, Jack the Ripper was a bad guy and Jack was a murderer. However,

don't point at me. I'm not Jack. However, I think that you were correct that they were working together in a Palpatine Anakin.

Yeah, but it was about the abortions. He knew that he was going out and doing the abortions and saying good work.

Why? No, no, no, no. Come up here and fight me. Cuz the guy the the Christmas Carol man who is the bad grumpy man who works at the clinic, he

the actual Jack the Ripper copycat killer. Yeah. He said, "Think of your unborn child." Like he was like a pro-life guy.

He's too pro-life. I I agree. Yeah. And then the other guy, the abortion giver, was also not a good guy cuz he was just doing it for money on the side. The only good guy that would give you an abortion that would actually feel good would be Sper.

Sper Prime. Sper Prime. I think I mean I did kind of want Bad Sper to like impersonate his brother at some point and try and do doctor stuff.

Yeah, that would have been cool. Um, hi. What's your name? Dominique. Okay. And what's your question?

Well, I think I can put it all together. Wow, I love this. The psychiatrist actually also hypnotized the main doctor of the clinic.

Okay. And he was influencing uh Jack, the other medical guy. Okay. And so they were kind of were kind of working together.

Wait, including the hypnotist. So you think you're saying they're all together? It doesn't make any other sense for him to get so mad when he's like, you know who did it and then he like pulls out the gun and is about to shoot him.

Yeah. Well, I thought that too cuz that's what I thought the movie was trying to tell us. And I do think the movie is trying to obfuscate things more. I felt like the moment when Robert Picardo is reaching to the gun and saying you think you know is meant to make us feel like oh maybe it's him. That's what I So all right. So what we're saying is Robert Ricardo is the is the main villain. He is hypnotizing people to go out and do his bidding so they don't even know. That's why the guy's got dark circles.

I'm sorry. And he lives with his mother, Dominique. I'm not sure. I don't know if that's it. I mean, if they're all

All the murderers live with their moms is what we heard. Yeah. And he's hypnotized his mom to keep paying the mortgage and buying him the cereal he likes.

I would love it. I would love it if it's a reveal that they are. Mom, I said give me a Sally stretch. Not my buddy. Um, yes. Okay. Yes. What's your question?

So, I'm Michael number two. Um, I'm an anesthesiologist and I just wanted to bring up three things that are accurate in the movie. Short white coats for medical students. Second, um, attendings when you're going through that whole process, you don't work for them. They can't fire you. They kind of own you and you're like basically like slave labor for them. And if you told one of them to [ __ ] off, they would probably try to murder you in your sleep like Hermione. And lastly, as a Latino man, a Latino mother waking up in her 70s to see if you're okay in the middle of the night. Completely accurate, especially in Los Angeles.

Wow. Well, now we've really tied it all together. I mean, there's nothing else to say.

Wow. Wow. Wow. He's just getting up in the middle of the night to do some hypnotizing. You've got to hypnotize me. What a crazy thing to show up in the middle of you. You You just got to hypnotize me. Don't make me think of a chicken. Obviously, we have opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

Hi, my name is Stephanie. All right. Okay. Stars, they give one or two. Amazon asks, "How good was this film?" They say the fans are fools. No, it ain't three. It ain't three. It ain't even number four. Four. It ain't three. It ain't three. I'll only give it five stars.

Yes. Amazing. Great job. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. While our singers were singing, I was able to do some research and I found out indeed Second Soul is a shoe store that does exist for runners

in LA. Uh it doesn't matter who it doesn't make a difference. Yeah, but there we go. But it probably was in LA.

Wow. Yeah. So, there we go. Um, let me give you this here. Uh, the average rating of this movie is 4.6 out of five stars.

76 reviews are five star reviews. Only 2% are one star. And uh, this we'll start off with uh, Gov Gov writes, "Why do people in the 80s hate curtains?" Five stars. It's true. It's true. Very true.

Harold wrote, "James Feder as a blonde in this walked so car me from the bear could run. Five stars."

Interesting. They're both kind of jacked little guys. Yeah. And they do kind of do like just like

like weird stuff with their tongues sometimes. Doesn't like Don't they kind of go like

sometimes? You got some solid Yes. They both do lizard. I don't know. I was noticing what James Banner was doing with his tongue.

Oh yeah. Okay. Very cool. Very cool. Only one. A couple other people noticed it as well. You might want to like to start a little club from a review that it says reviewed in Japan in 2019. James Federer. I am good at acting. I watched it. The story itself was different from my imagination looking at the jacket and it was quite interesting. It may be because I'm dull, but I didn't know the true culprit until the end, and I was pounding the floor watching it. There's no good things in movies right now. There were no Japanese subtitles or dubbing, but I'm not good at English. I enjoyed it.

It's a movie. I want to watch it. I was glad to watch it. Five stars. Incredible. That made more sense than anything Manzukus has said this entire show.

How dare you? Sorry. How dare you? Because my English isn't so good. No, your English is perfect. Your ideas are stupid and bad.

How dare you? Now, I did uh I did ask somebody about this film. I told uh Miss June Dian Rael, I said the movie that we are doing, she said, "Please forgive. She's wearing a wig. She's in full costume. She's in a period piece show." Um, I I I gave her the title

and the year and I said, "You tell us what it's about." Hi, how did this get made listeners and hi people of Largo? Paul and Jason told me that this movie is called Jack's Back. Jack's back. And that and they asked if I could figure out what the movie was about just based on the title alone and the year, which is 1988. Now, of course, initially I thought, oh, it's probably about a dad named Jack who dies early, too soon. Um, and every winter comes back as a snowman and the moral being snow dad is better than no dad. But then that sounded too familiar and too reminiscent of a different movie. So, I I don't think it's that. I think Jack is Jack of Jack and Jill.

Um, and he's a killer doll. He's a killer doll. And he was thrown away at when his owner, sort of like Andy in Toy Story, was coming of age. He was discarded rather rudely and unceremoniously. Um, and he's back. He's back. He's never forgotten what's happened. And he's ready to seek revenge. Jack's back.

Great. Incredible. I would watch that. Jack's back. I can't believe you got such a hot woman to do this stupid show. Oh, any final thoughts?

Do you do you have um any of the other scenes that have music in them? The saxophone? Uh

uh I might There was just some next level '8s saxophone stuff while Spader's like sitting on his porch petting a cat.

Oh, in between shifts at Second Soul. I did want to talk I did want to talk about this scene. This is the one scene before we go that I think is worthy of chatting about.

Isn't it a little late to This is an emergency. May we come in? I'm not really dressed.

It's okay. We're police officers. Not a lot's changed. LA, this scene pissed me off. But I also I'm like at odds with myself because I also was the same person who was so mad that he jangled the gate when she was about to take her bra off. So, I was like I was looking forward to seeing tits and then later I was like those cops are so rude.

It seems that the cops are into being perves. Like they are like Yeah, man. They're creeps.

They're They're trigger happy creeps. All right. Well, we don't have to be that rude about them. I mean, people said a lot of bad things about Jack the Ripper.

Oh, god. And two of them we know are not true. Um, any final thoughts uh on the film? Any final anything?

I loved the movie and I love you guys and I'm glad you made me watch it. I'm so happy that you're here. It's so great. I had a blast. I I you know, we've had to watch so so many bad movies that are truly bad and a slog. This was a delight. Not once did I have a note that was like, "How is there still 45 minutes left?" I I more was like, "It's over already." I literally sat down. I looked for the soundtrack.

I I sat down. I sat down. I was like, I'll watch 30 minutes. I'll get this out of the way and then I'll watch some more later. I watched the whole thing. I didn't move. I didn't move.

I was sad I hadn't seen it when it came out and I was 16 years old. I'm surprised you like it so much cuz didn't you keep calling it like lof glas?

Wait, what? Loflius. Loflarius. Loflarius. Llanius. Lupriusk. Laborius. Laquacius.

Lubrius. Lubrious. Lof Lof Lof Lofas. Lofer Luffer Lof Graius. Lof Graius. Lof Granius.

Graius. It's it's it's a picture. It's a picture of Lisa and it just says lof graas.

Lof lyrics disease. And that's your um and or that's as if you're Hermione and that's a spell.

Yes. LO. That is the shirt. All right. Thank you everybody. Good night. We love you. Abra Abra Abra Abra Abra Abra a Thank you so much everybody. That's uh really nice of you. Thank you so much. Give it up for Lisa. Thank you everybody. Thanks so much.

Thanks for having me. I love you guys. Eat [ __ ] LA. Thanks again to the hilarious Lisa Gilroy for filling in for June. And a huge thank you to our pals at Largo Flanny Griffy Alec in the booth and our recording engineer Brendan Burns. We'll be back in Los Angeles at Largo for two shows on October 22nd and 23rd. So, go to hdtgm.com to get your tickets because they will sell out. Now, our t-shirt for this show is pretty special. It says Larius uh with a graphic of Lisa as hermayan casting a spell uh to get this design on a shirt or sticker or mug or many other types of products. Just click on the merch link at hdtgm.com.

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