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My Boyfriend's Back LIVE!

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "My Boyfriend's Back LIVE!", an episode of How Did This Get Made? published November 14, 2025 (1 h 18 min, about 13,569 words). It mentions 9 people, works and ideas, including Teen Wolf, My Boyfriend's Back, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Matthew Fox, Bob Balaban.

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Teen Wolf, My Boyfriend's Back, Bob Balaban, Diane Rael
  2. – 20:00: Teen Wolf
  3. – 30:00: Matthew Fox, My Boyfriend's Back
  4. – 40:00: Teen Wolf, My Boyfriend's Back
  5. – 50:00: Philip Seymour Hoffman, Matthew Fox, Teen Wolf
  6. – 1:00:00: Dodie Fed, Matthew Fox, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Tracy Lind
  7. – 1:10:00: My Boyfriend's Back, Bob Balaban, Matthew Fox

Notable quotes from "My Boyfriend's Back LIVE!"

  • We saw my boyfriend's back. So, you know what that means?
    about My Boyfriend's Back · at
  • Bob Balaban, Phoebe's dad from Friends.
    about Bob Balaban · at
  • Jason Manzukus. WHAT'S UP, JERKS?
    about Jason Manzukus · at
  • What are we going to do next? Teen Wolf.
    about Teen Wolf · at
  • This movie came Well, I'm just going to base this on Philip Seymour Hoffman's career.
    about Philip Seymour Hoffman · at
  • This just seemed like you if you're a guy and you're in love with a girl who's been dating Matthew Fox for 6 years.
    about Matthew Fox · at
  • In 1997, Lind went public with accusations of physical abuse regarding her boyfriend Dodie Fed.
    about Dodie Fed · at

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Full transcript with timestamps

What if a creepy stalker got a second chance to be a creep? We saw my boyfriend's back. So, you know what that means? baby rock just in the Kelly see a bird that show up to get your heart control in the Jew from the all the way to bring your hand street just a sacrifice to life how we stay alive they call me a bad ass and he's on the

cuz they cruel as the bad money looking kind of night getting lame show the monkey shots in the bunch of movies making it great. There's a real question for you. How did this get made? Hello people of Earth. Hello people of Los Angeles. We are live at Largo for our Halloween special, the hauntingly scary My Boyfriend's Back. My Boyfriend's Back, directed by the same person who wrote Gosford Park. That's right. Bob Baliban. Bob Balaban, Phoebe's dad from Friends. Bob Balaban, the man who played Warren Littlefield on Seinfeld.

Bob Balaban made this movie and boy oh boy, I think it saves it. I think that in other people's hands, it would have been worse. But it's also not great. Now, if you're wondering what what is my boyfriend's back? What? Somebody's boyfriend comes back. Well, no.

Um, IMDb describes this film as a teenage boy comes back from the dead because he is determined to win the most beautiful girl in the school. Okay, sure. I guess that's kind of like, you know, you're you're kind of burying some parts of the story in there, whitewashing it, if you will. Um, we're going to get into it. We're going to get into this film that is not even an hour and 30 minutes.

A movie that has a 13% on the tomato meter. A movie that cost 12 million and on opening weekend made 1.4. Oh yes, there is so much to discuss in tonight's film, but I need my co-host. So, please welcome to the stage Mr. Jason Manzukus.

WHAT'S UP, JERKS? LET'S GO, LARGO. YEAH. OH, BOY. PAUL, I'm going to answer your last question first. I 100% recommend this movie.

There it is. There. Maybe. Maybe it's just the uh the the harsh reality of John Carpenters's The Ghosts of Mars last night. Sure.

This today was like a warm bath. I 100% agree. Loved it. Here's the thing. I'll answer the last question first as well. I also recommend it. I don't know if I liked it.

Oh, I thought it was great. I had that thing happen that every once in a while happens with the movies that we do, which is I found myself not taking notes, just enjoying the movie. Every now and then.

Every now and then I get sucked in and I'm like, "Austin Pendleton?" Okay. And then I look and I haven't made a note in like 10 minutes.

Well, I felt the same way. I feel the same way. I feel like if I was watching a child do uh, you know, a play at school.

What are you watching a child do? A play at school. Okay. I have children. I am I'm not going and watching other people.

Let me meet them. Please let me meet them. No, I will say meet your kids. Someday I'm going to meet your kids and someday I'm going to meet your wife.

No, you neither. Neither. Um Jason, you you are better at this than most. What year do you think this movie came out?

Boy, oh boy. I'm going to say this movie came out in 1987. Great, great guess. We'll hold the answer on that for just a second. God, I [ __ ] up with this last night, too. And let me introduce to you my other co-host. PLEASE WELCOME TO THE STAGE, MISS JUNE, Diane Rael.

Nice to meet you. Welcome, June. How are you? I'm okay. How are you, Paul? I'm well. I'm well, June. Well, because we started the episode answering the last question first. Would you recommend this movie?

I don't know why we're doing this. I'm happy to talk about it. What are we going to do next? Teen Wolf.

Yeah, it doesn't. Another [ __ ] classic. Great movie. Why didn't I see this movie sooner? Where has it been?

My life would be so much different if I'd seen this movie. And why are honestly, why aren't we making more movies like this?

Yes. How is there not teen movies now that aren't about like, oh no, twin brothers both want to [ __ ] me or or whatever all of these teen shows are. There's multiple teen shows in which brothers are battling it out. All I'm saying is if this was the uh final season of Euphoria, I would be thrilled. I just like a strong comedic premise where everybody knows what world they're in and the joke I got to say now maybe I'm in a weird mental space you know but I have to say the jokes never got old to me

every every time someone every time you wanted to take a bite out of someone I was like yes

I I got some I have some small notes but before we even get into that June I want to ask you this question I know you hate being put on the spot. But what year do you think this movie came out?

Um, this movie came Well, I'm just going to base this on Philip Seymour Hoffman's career.

Um, and I believe there's also there's a cameo from Matthew McConna. I think this

a B he has two lines in the movie. Uh, also cut out Renee Zelwigger. She's in the beauty salon scene.

So, this movie, my guess is this movie shot in Texas. Yes. Okay, that makes sense because those are all local hires.

Yes. June, what year? Okay, so I'm putting that together. Carry the one. I'm gonna say this movie came out in 1988.

Great. All right. And Jason, you said I believe I said 87. And the year is 1993.

1993. How? 1993 shot in 1987. Languish on a shelf. Jason, what I'm really I'm actually worried. I'm worried because I do believe you and I have lost a decade of our lives.

I I believe we may suffer from time blindness. I will say that this year, 1993, was peak Zom time because these are the other movies in '93 that came out. Zombie Blood Bath, Weekend at Bernie's 2, Return of the Living Dead 3, Ghost Brigade Ed.

Ghost Brigade. I don't know. Ed and his dead mother. A zombie movie called Ghost Brigade.

Well, I guess maybe they run into zombies. I'm so curious. We got to do Ghost Brigade.

I'm ready for it. I think I think that's clear. Um, so yeah, different it definitely hit differently in 1993. I mean, I don't know.

What year did I mean, I'm sure we don't know, but some nerd will tell me. What year did Teen Wolf come out?

Teen Wolf came out the year before Back to the Future cuz he shot that first. So, Back to the Future is 85. This is the 40th anniversary.

This movie seems like it's basically Teen Wolf, but with what if instead of the puberty allegory being werewolfism, it is zombieism, right?

Yeah. It's still a lot of the same games are being played. Everybody's normalizing zombie immediately.

But I also feel like Teen Wolf, I mean, dare I say, a better film. Uh, a movie that I also

He said it. I can't believe he said it. Can't believe he said it's a Teen Wolf is a better film.

Pretty good. Um, I will say that Well, I mean, this is going to be weird and you're not.

Why? Well, what what do I have to hide? Say it. When I watched Teen Wolf as a child, I had it on VHS because I taped it off of whatever. You know, it was illegal. I wasn't doing it illegally. And there was a moment where he was like getting intimate with his girlfriend, Michael J. box and um and he said tickle my paws like it and was like that was like a thing like tickle my paws like he's like you know it's a sexual thing

but I thought that was a cue to the home viewing audience to hit pause to potentially see some nudity

you thought that up yourself you invent so you thought that maybe movies were giving you subtle clues

had this worked before. So in my mind, in my mind, I never heard the line so clearly. I never heard tickle my paws. I just kind of heard like in my mind I might have heard like hit pause and I was like and I thought I

immediately went to if I hit it, I get to see nudity cuz I knew it was like a sexy scene and I was like maybe they would shoot like a an insert.

Holy [ __ ] That's awesome. I've never shared that with anyone. But it's the only thing.

But it's it's that you did you want to announce the next book? I know it's a So you thought like were you always looking for your lead actors and protagonists to speak to you the the viewer?

I understand. I completely understand the overwhelming desire to see nudity. Yes. and and that you're looking for any way that it might be able to happen. That's why you would watch a scrambled cable channel just for every exactly every 10 minutes you get 30 seconds of a boob or something.

Um but but the that thinking that the movie was telling you hit pause, hit pause. It was

Did you Well, obviously I mean did you see anything? Was it speaking? No, cuz I thought I wasn't hitting it at the right time. How long did you spend

a lot? I would be like maybe no. And then and then many years later I found out the line was tickle my paws. I was like ah he wasn't saying please hit pause.

I mean this is I'll tell you two things of why I thought that could work. one. Number one, first piece of evidence, when I was a child, there was a clue VHS game. Okay, so you would put the the VHS tape in there and you would play the board game and they're like, "Fast forward to minute 277." And you that's not a thing that could exist. 2 47 and I'd do it and you'd watch somebody like, "Oh, good job there, mate. You did the thing." And like, "Oh, great." So I thought, "Okay, maybe all VHS." Okay.

Who's Who's Colonel Mustard? Who's the Colonel Derby of this game? Like Jumanji. So I thought there was like a you know I was like

So you had been primed to Yeah. Right. And then to be an interactive viewer from a Clue VHS video game. This is a movie he taped himself off of cable.

All right. I'm going to give you I'm going to give you the two other You're trying too hard to get this. Okay. To normalize this behavior. I'm going to give you the two other things. Um, the other thing was that my uh my parents were uh at a certain point uh born again Christians and they were like there's a lot of backward masking on albums like you know so you know you you play it backwards like salute the devil you know not salute but you know you get it

because because he's the commanderin-chief so you got to oh hell the devil salute the devil. Oh, hail the devil.

He keeps what song in reverse plays hail to the chief and has the lyrics salute the devil. Holy cow. Holy [ __ ] These How are these NEW STORIES? HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THERE are new stories? So then

and here's my here's what I my promise to you the audience. We won't stop this podcast until Paul runs out of childhood stories. It's not movies. It's not even our desire to do it anymore. It's so that we can get these stories to you. So that we can do things that provoke Paul's memory. Well, that was what a lot of people said about my book. They're like, "Wow, you didn't even share the stories that you share in the We thought it would just be the stories from the podcast, but no, I forgot those. I'm just telling new ones." The And then the final thing that made me think that there could be this.

Wait, what? There was a there was a kid in my class, uh, I believe his name was Brian Orlando. And Brian Orlando told me that his dad had a device, um, that was like a remote control. So, if you were watching like a shampoo commercial with an attractive woman in it, you could take the device and then put the joystick down and then see naked people in the commercial.

Naked people. That woman naked or just other naked people. So, it would be like

I need I need to get in touch with Brian Orlando because because and hear me out. if this tech exists and I'm ONLY JUST HEARING ABOUT IT. OKAY. OKAY, ORLANDO. SO, just so you know, I'm coming in hot with a remote control device, clue the video game, and backward masking. I thought that Teen Wolf, cuz it was a PG-13 movie, was sending me a little signal to see Boof naked.

Wow. Wow. Tickle all that from tickle my paws. Tickle my paws. We got all of that from Tickle My Paws.

Well, I didn't want you to think I was a weirdo pervert. I We do think that anyway.

They say now boys like see pornography by the age of 10 and it's so disturbing. But then I'm like, I don't know. Maybe it's better.

It doesn't matter. At least they get to see it. Think of the hours they're not spending doing whatever this nonsense was. You could have learned to play guitar.

Nope. Just maybe just show it to them, you know. By the way, I will say that scene where

your boobs. Don't waste your time. They'll be there later. I will say that that scene where she is uh saying, "Tickle my paws." They're fully dressed in a high school hallway. Like, so it would have to be like a real insert shot. You must have lived in a world in which

hitting pause on anything might reveal nudity. Oh my god. And what's really like I I mean I what's actually breaking my heart

is the moment you must have realized like it's not there. No, like it's just not there. I

I'll be honest. I don't know that he's given up hope. He's still He still seems to think he just didn't pause it in the right place. Well, now I got the 4K steelbook and um and now I think I can get to the bottom of it. You don't even want to know how I dealt with like I when I finally got my hands on a Playboy magazine, I was so nervous that I was going to get busted that I cut out the the pictures that I thought were choice were choice. I want to be very clear.

That's a word I guarantee Paul has not used since he was a teenager. True. That's not a word we use anymore to describe hot women.

As a matter of fact, she's choice. I as a matter of fact, I think it's the term they use in Teen Wolf. Um,

is it? I think it is. I think Styles uses it. Holy [ __ ] So, I cut out these pictures and then I was like, I can never get busted with this

again. A new story is being Do you know how lucky you are to BE HERE TONIGHT? OH my god. Do you mean you cut them out like in a square or like did you cut out the eyes?

Such a good question. So for a collage or for just pages? So great question. Great question.

Great question. Wow, those legs are spread. I I cut them out to be slightly smaller than a magazine page. So, I was los I was cropping slightly. Um,

why not just rip it out? Well, hold on. I'll tell you, June and then I got a uh an old like hunting and fishing magazine and then I inserted those nude pages throughout. So,

did you own the hunting and fishing mag or did you go and buy that specifically for subtra? Well, I had like there were a collection of hunting and fishing magazines in my house.

How old were you at this point? Um, guess I mean guesstimate like fifth grade. Okay. Okay. Okay.

And um and so then I would keep that in like my magazine rack in my room that was next to my lazy boy. I did have a lazy boy in my room. And uh

just you were a real you were a real Martin Crane as a child. So, it was next to my lazy boy. And so, then I knew that I could keep it there. No one was ever going to look at this old hunting and fishing magazine that had a outdated info. So, so if I wanted to look at it, I could, you know, go to page 35, 72. You know, I could move around and I'd have my my pictures locked in there.

Wow. Wow. This is next level. Yeah. This is incredible stuff. But that just I just do because we do have younger listeners. Yes.

That these are the lengths that we had to go to in effort to see nudity and be titilated. We couldn't just be like, look at any random thing online.

No, I had to make sure I was cutting and pasting. in using I'm just curious like did you try to integrate these choice women into the like hunting and fishing tableau at all or

was it just like the page on the page? Yeah, it it was it was um unfortunately it was not that thought out. I just kind of I found areas where I felt like, you know, maybe the reader would be done with that story and then I would pop that out.

Got it. So yeah, because I wouldn't I would never want someone to find it and be like, "Oh, what is going on in the world of hunting and fishing and then be midstory and be like, whoa." And so yeah, so uh I did take that uh that hunting and fishing magazine upstairs cuz I thought that no one was really I was worried about my mom was going to find it. I don't think my mom was never you were never your secret was never revealed.

No. Okay. Okay. Sh got mad at me once for seeing that I took a Victoria's Secrets catalog up to my room before it got to like the kitchen mail slot.

It went straight into the hunting and fishing. Yeah, I brought it up. It's like, don't worry. I only cut out El McFersonson. She's the most choice woman in in this Victoria Secret. Oh, no. That was me. That was that the swimsuit.

Yeah, the swimsuit. But I also not Victoria Secret. Holy cow. So, we did it. So,

is the show over? I don't know what else to say. I feel like I went into a fugue state about 1 hour ago.

Wow. So, what I'll say about this movie is the title is Oh my god. Title is misleading. The title's a little bit misleading. My boyfriend's back. He is not her boyfriend. Uh, I would say, and this is the thing that bothers me, like I am on board for this movie, but he is a straightup creo.

Yes, I I actually Yes, you're right. I wish my only problem with it was that I wish they had let go of this idea of her believing he actually died for her because he didn't Yes, he died throwing himself in front of, you know, that bullet, but he didn't believe at that point that that was a real scenario cuz he had staged it,

right? And that I want to go back one step and go, he is a creep. He stages a robbery. He knew it at that point, but he had

he sees his friend being like, "No, no, it's not me." I know, but he had still staged a

Sure. And I just found it troubling that she never seemed to know that he had staged this really scary event for her.

Yeah, that kind of gets pushed under the rug. And it's a it's a weird thing because

you're saying scary event and I would say romantic event. Okay. So that's and in 1987 when this movie was made, this was the height of romance.

But I'm like, sweetie, don't feel so badly for him. Like, he would never have even been there. I guess she would be dead, but like

I don't know. Actually, I don't think that guy would have taken his gun out if he hadn't been there.

Can I tell you why she would have been dead? Because she's reaching behind her to get like a bat. This man has a gun. That bat ain't going to do anything.

Give the money. Give the money. Give the money and you guys can keep chatting when this person leaves.

I mean, and I will say that again, I want to talk about the creepiness of our lead, right? Our lead Andrew uh sorry, our lead Johnny Dingle.

Johnny Dingle. Don't even you you need to look at the papers. I can tell you Johnny Dingle right now.

Johnny was heartbreaking to me. Johnny Dingle dies a virgin twice. Heartbreak. You know, this is what I sort of I miss the I know

the virginity movie. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I miss the days in which teenagers were 37.

Yes. Like that. I really miss the Andrea Zuckers that like I missed the the old te Yeah. the old teens. And that's what I did find comforting.

I really do. I found it so comforting watching this movie. Like he was 23. Johnny Dingle was the same age if not older than her dad.

Johnny Dingle. Johnny Dingle 23. Uh the the woman 25. Yeah. As all teen movies should be.

And yeah, agreed. And but they when he wakes up out of bed, I was like, "Oh, cuz it starts with him as a child and he's lusting after this girl." And we're like, "Okay,

he's not lusting. He's in love with her. Well, she doesn't seem to even talk. Is it a Is it a Halloween birthday party?

I don't know. He's wearing a fireman's hat. That's Everyone else is in costume. The birthday girl is not.

Yeah, I think that was just her wish to see everyone else in a different professional uniform.

And why? They were shooting composits that day. Why is this movie told in the style of a comic book?

I don't know, but I was thrilled it was. It made those awkward transitions sing. I

It was a really odd choice because and I understand that there are there is a tradition of old of like maybe horror comic books, but it was an odd choice because there's no horror in the comic book at all. It the comic book is really just doing transitions. It's like we couldn't afford to shoot it. But we Yeah. So that's odd. So we wake up, old man in a bed. we're believing that he's a child even though he looks the same age as his dad. And then his parents are like, "Don't cut through that woman's lawn." And I'm like, "Okay, I'm I'm in.

I'm on board." And then he just doesn't cut through her lawn. Like he destroys it.

He doesn't actually he destroys her flower bed, which is so much weirder. Well, yes. And that to me, I was like, "Oh, great way to not like this character right out the gate." But the problem is I've already decided to like him because when he opens his closet there is a juggling game in there and I was like this guy's cool as hell.

I was obsessed with that. I was like what is juggle? Yeah. I love that both of us were like what's the game juggle?

And then when they had the reverse shot I saw the back of juggle game. I was like

and I just immediately paused it because I assumed it said juggo and I was like there's got to be boobs here. I bet there's if I bet if I pause there's gonna be jugs on this.

You have to listen. You have to listen and be ready. I spent like an hour frame by framing the juggle.

So, I guess what I I guess what I'm getting to ultimately is if you don't change a single frame of this movie, why don't you just start off the character as a likable shy guy who then gets shot not because he's set up an elaborate like hoax robbery. Like everything that he does in the beginning sets him up as a creep where I think it would be more endearing if he's just nice. I think you're right. Except that back then we didn't have creeps.

Back then, we didn't have creeps. We didn't know this was creep behavior. This just seemed like you if you're a guy and you're in love with a girl who's been dating Matthew Fox for 6 years. THEY ARE IN HIGH SCHOOL. WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? Who's had a boyfriend for six years? have to stage some sort of elaborate prank, hoax, violent thing in order to get her attention.

Also found it interesting that Matt they didn't make the movie makes so many interesting choices and one is to not make Matthew Fox a villain really. No,

like he seems like a nice guy in the beginning. You know, I I never had an issue with him. It seems

he's kind of a dick, but not so so much. Not like I guess not no more so than our main character.

Well, I mean the the dick of the movie is the surprise of the film, Philillip Seymour Hoffman.

Or as he's credited, Philip Hoffman. No Seymour in the credits. Yes. Oh, I didn't see that.

Um I just saw it at the beginning. Uh and but I have to say he explodes on this screen.

Incredible. I never I I always I think I maybe the first time I ever saw him was Mlabowski for me.

Not Son of a Woman maybe cuz he's playing a similar character instead of a woman. He's like a ski but I don't even remember.

Okay. Yeah. So I remember I mean not that I was registering but I remember him being like the funny kokey ski dude and I was like oh wow what an interesting moment that he

like turned like because well just listen and [ __ ] what are you doing? What is It's clown work. I mean,

sorry, I'm an idiot. Like, the way he's holding his body, the way his hat is looking, look at where his eyes are.

Yeah, he looks like a character from Andy Cap and Bazooka Joe. I mean, it is Look at his hair coming out of his hat up there.

Like, this is comedia level performance. And and immediately he is just acting everybody off the screen. He is denim on denim. And uh here we go.

Well, no kidding. You stand me up and then you don't even call me. My car broke down. Had to walk 8 miles through the rain to get to a telephone. And by the time I got there, you were already gone.

See, I believe that. I would walk on glass and eat donkeys for you. Look at Phil Seymour often.

I can't live knowing that you're not mine. Will you go to prom with me? Of course I will, silly. I'm sorry too. Let's not fight anymore.

What's up, Dingle? See you, Johnny. Now, what are you looking at? Nothing. They're back.

Well, it's a straight line from that to the talented Mr. Ripley. It's incredible.

Wow. Truly. I mean, yeah, sometimes you see it and you're like, "Oh, there it is. It's right there." It doesn't matter what it's in service of. It's just electric to watch.

Thank you, Bob Baliban. Bob Baliban had the eye. I love that it's Balaban. And I love Bob.

Everybody, every adult in the movie is a Baliban level character actor. Yeah. It's J Sanders. It's Richard Gilmore. It's Austin Pendleton. Everybody, all the adults are Chloris Leechman. One scene. one scene with Chlorice Leechman and it's electric

and his mom Mary Beth hurt her was amazing. The fact that the fact that she keeps bringing him first a toddler to eat.

I laughed so hard and then a cadaavver is so funny. Well, this is this movie feels to me like a John Waters version of Teen Wolf. I feel like that's what they're going for. Come on. And this is the thing I can't quite figure out cuz all the actors seem to be on the same page. He's directing them all, but I feel like maybe it didn't push far enough. Maybe it did. I don't know. I

I loved that nobody questioned it beyond Wait a minute. Didn't you die? Yeah. Okay, you're here now.

And I loved that it didn't slow itself down to try and work it out. That it just was like, let's keep going cuz the story we're telling is not about this. But

he didn't really question it either, which I thought was interesting. I thought for sure someone's going to and it's him. I actually I found it it fascinating that he became more likable when he was dead.

Once he had something to contend with and an identity that sort of otherred him, he we had to root for him.

Yes. Well, yeah, I think that you're right. And I think that this movie just kind of finds ways to always go in a slightly different direction that you don't need to go into cuz like Yes, he comes back from the dead. Now, sure. Would it be interesting to give it the the smallest amount of explanation? I wouldn't have minded it, but sure. We don't need it. Especially when that that gravedigger seems to know a lot more than he's letting on.

Murray. Yeah. Murray the gravedigger would love would love Murray to be like, "Yeah, just give me one more line of exposition. We're halfway there." But he stops himself from even explaining. He's like, "Ah, he'll you'll find out. H you'll find out in the rest of the movie."

So then he goes to the doctor, uh, who was great. The doctor and the doctor So great,

great. So incredible stuff from Austin Pendle. Austin Pendle, I mean, it was really amazing.

The movie, let's be clear, would be unwatchable, but for the adults, well, they're all adults, including that toddler.

Yes, true. Well, and and like and what this is the But then like he goes to the doctor and he's like, "Yeah, you got to go see this old woman, Maggie." Like why why are we making another scene for him to go to her for her to go? Yeah, my husband did it too and he eats dead people. Like just have Boston Pendleton go like that. Guys, you I feel like you didn't like this movie.

Yeah, just say it. Be so right now for real. You're holding it to a standard. It's Is it just because it's so much like Teen Wolf without the tickle my paws moment? There is never a moment in here where they told me to pause the film and I feel like that well I these movies owe that to me. It's PG-13. Um and I expected something. No. And I like I think like I guess what I was getting frustrated by was like the over complication of things was like no no it's simple. It's easy. Like I don't have any problem with the guys coming out with guns, the mom killing people, him eating a child, but like why are we like detouring?

I do think yes. I I think that once Austin Pendlesson's nurse said, who by the way is his wife, who announced I like almost two hours into the film, just appeared. I hadn't seen her before. I don't know if she was a character.

I don't think so. Appeared as though we knew her and said, you know, we're going to be making a youth serum. I thought

money [ __ ] a little money. This is definitely just a new plot. Yep. you know that we're gonna have to plastic surgery without the late hour

like in a movie that's an hour and 25 minutes that comes in about an hour and 15

and you're like oh and even even the end I rewound it three times when he goes to heaven like

well because you were trying to see nudity yeah well I thought when when St. Peter was like, "Took my balls." No, but I like I was like, "You weren't He was supposed to slip on coffee and that like I'm lost here. I'm lost."

You are trying to make sense out of you're trying to you're you're applying too rigorous a logic to this.

Well, I'm saying it's like it's like this movie should be a straight line. Like, how about now we put a knot here? And you're like, why? Why do I need a knot? Just go to heaven and be like, you know what? You learned your lesson. Go back down. I don't need him to go like, "Oh, he's supposed to slip on a pot of and he gets shot." I'm like, "Okay, I All right."

But why did that happen? Why? What I still I guess I didn't get to is what was the mistake exactly

that he was supposed to slip on? No, I know. Stop saying that. I know. But I know he's supposed to slip on the coffee but

you're not going my Field of Stream magazine. I'll tell you that much. Wow. It just became unchoice. But that I guess that just felt so random. I couldn't accept it. Like I almost wanted Murray to have done something wrong or for him to have, you know, because

admit that he set up this entire plan, right? or because he didn't give her the necklace that something I don't know there there was a better device in there that wasn't used.

The fact that he's wearing the locket when he gets sent back which stops the bullet is I will say insanity.

If I'm her and he's takes the bullet and she's like oh this stops it. It's a heart-shaped locket with a picture of me as a 5-year-old in it. I would shoot him. I would say, "Give me that guy."

The only answer. Shoot this guy. But also, in the world of the movie, that present is locked away in his closet next.

But but we are to assume because he's gone to heaven and stood trial and they've sent him back that God put that locket on him. on him

and again and then the Christian God obviously. And then he goes back down. I said it. Goes back down to have the final dance. And guess what? I want my boyfriend's back. Dance to my boyfriend's back.

Nope. I agree. in in simple choices. That's all. In a good in a slightly better executed version of this movie, there would have been like a band from that era doing a a SCA cover of My Boyfriend's Bag.

It would be like Fishbone doing My Boyfriend's Back. You're not going to You're not going to get from me like I didn't like when the mom threw the peanut butter or the baloney and love it. No issue with it. On board, but kind of want some other things in here, too. like in that like again

I love that they also didn't really grieve for him. Not at all. No, not at all.

It was in some ways healing just to be like, "Oh, sometimes grief is not that big of a deal."

And also, and you know what? It felt like they didn't give into that level of grief cuz they knew he was coming back.

They knew that he was probably going to show up tomorrow, which is when he arrives.

They just buried him yesterday. Paul Douly's son is killed. And Paul Douly IS LIKE, "MY SON'S DEAD."

And And you're about to eat my And you're about to eat my other son. His other son is in there.

When that is revealed to be his other son. So funny. The one logic issue I had, the one was that he would have started to smell very badly.

Oh yeah. When she bites his ear and it falls off in her mouth. Great. I was like, "Finally, this movie has arrived."

And by the way, she's unfazed. Yeah. Loves it. She's in fact, I think, turned on.

She's She is incredibly turned on by his decomposing body. Yes. And she pays no attention to him until he's dead and then she's like, "What's your deal?"

You're different. The ultimate bad boy is one that doesn't have a heartbeat. Isn't that the tagline?

Uh, nope. I um I was obsessed with this movie that it reminded me of. Anyone ever see Dead Heat?

Great movie. Joe Piscapo gets killed in the line of duty, comes back as a zombie, and his body parts are falling off too to solve a crime. He's got to solve a crime.

That's why you didn't like this movie because you love this other zombie movie. Pisscapo.

I don't like breaking it down that way. The first syllable piss. Piss. This is the tough thing about this movie.

I'm actually really mad at you, Paul, because I came in here like loving it and now I'm turning on it and it's not even

You can't shake my love. Yeah, good. I need to get back there because I'm All right. I'm I'm I'm with you. What I will say though is that you are you we're referring to him as a zombie, but there's never any like mental decay or zombie-esque behavior other than of course wanting to eat people, but there's no other sense really of him behaving or having any physicality. I

want him to kill Philip Seymour Hoffman. I want like Philip Seymour Hoffman putting an axe in his own head. I'm like ah.

And what did happen there? It was just the weight of it kind of took him back. Took it back and it

Yeah. Yeah. He hit himself in the back of the head, which made no sense. I feel like that was them not wanting our hero guy to murder, but to be able to eat human flesh.

But the last line of the movie is, "I wish I would have killed that guy." Yeah, I know. My tough stuff. Um, my understanding of zombies though is that they like dot dot dot brains,

not so much flesh. He ate He ate his belly. Oh, I know. He ate his stomach. They keep saying he ate he ate the stomach. Um, but don't zombies eat brains? Isn't that their whole thing? Brains. Brains. Right.

I don't know that about them. So, I couldn't I don't Anyway, um, so that that was interesting to me. just mythologically to introduce a new a new thing. That was interesting. But

I have a feeling on this they couldn't introduce brains because they didn't have the effects budget to do brains.

I bet you're right. Cuz like when Philip Seymour Hoffman I don't even have the effects budget to show him eating flesh. He just goes down off camera and comes up with a little a little bit of blood

like he ate a burger with too much ketchup. Um I wrote I wrote here this tone isn't done anymore and that's what I want. It's like Heathers and John Waters. And

you know what? It reminded me of Buffy. It reminded me of Buffy. A world in which these supernatural elements are not really explored too much other than their ability to give us to let us tell a story, a coming of age story, a whatever. Uh anyway, you get it. Um and that's what it reminded me of. And

I guess that's my other question. What is this a metaphor for? I think there's both a puberty story in here and then puberty 25 years old,

but then there is a story of their their unholy romance. The idea that everybody is so looking down on them and that she's involved with a a um a zombie, the undead.

I do think, God, I'm now I don't like the movie anymore. I'm so mad because I think you're I know. Oh, I don't know what happened tonight, but I think I think what you're right about is what has he learned? Nothing,

right? You know, he has what has the town learned? I nothing. I I think that what I wish for him is that he had started off as someone who wasn't willing to try and put himself out there and be brave enough to fail and be vulnerable enough to, you know, tell her how he feels.

But yet the first scene he's like, "You smell good. You smelly smell." Yeah, I know.

You know, it's like it's like, "Oh, creepy creep." Yeah. And then he does stage this elaborate thing, you know. Now, when I did that to you, did you find that romantic?

Thought you were a choice, man. Choice. Oh my god. Choice. I think you really have to decide to be on this movie's wave list.

Yes, you do. You have to be on board for Jo Sanders screaming, "You are not taking my daughter to the prom, you stupid dead son of a bitch."

Great line. And here, by the way, here's the thing about our lead actor. Even though the movie and the writing and the story doesn't do him any favors, I did find him to be inherently watchable and like buoyant and likable. And so, I do think he carries a storyline that's kind of not there. [snorts]

I agree. I feel like given the material that he had, he made some choices. I think he is likable, but you're right. He's more likable when he's the zombie, but he hasn't really learned anything because he when he goes back to school, his friend is his friend. Like in in Teen Wolf, the fun thing about Teen Wolf is

Here we go. Tickle my paws. Here we go. We know. We've heard you say it. It's that it's

But it's like the idea being like here's a nerdy kid. He's not very good in basketball. Uh you know, he he he's no one pays attention to him. He becomes the wolf and then he's like, you know, break dancing on trucks, scoring a bunch of baskets in the basketball game. The hot girl likes him, you know, and it's like, oh, popularity isn't all it's cracked up to be. Like, I actually like being with my friends better. Here he becomes a zombie, keeps the same friends, and then the girl that he likes is this kind of like into like dead bodies, like she's into necroilia. Yeah, I think you're right actually cuz he says there's that moment where he says like, "I don't just like you cuz you're popular. I don't just like you cuz you're pretty." I'm like, "Well, that's all I see." Like, I don't know why you like her, actually.

No. No reason. He likes her for the 5-year-old within. I don't like that. It's a real roller coaster.

Put it on a shirt. All right, let's go to the audience. Let's see what the audience has to say. Um, here we go. I'm going to

All right, so I know there's a lot of interesting things to talk about in this movie. We've broached a handful, but there are other things left to be said. Hi. What's your name?

Nick. Nick, what's her question? I guess going off what you were just saying, since she wasn't into him until after uh he died and the death is sort of a standin for like an otherism. Is she like fetishizing him for his identity at all?

Well, I mean, that's what I was thinking, too. It's like she just straight up likes the smell of dead skin.

Yeah. I think it's as simple as that. I think she wants to [ __ ] him till his dick falls off. I think she wants to I think she wants that. I do. I think she's like I think she's kind of like previous to he's just Johnny Dingle. Who cares? And then she's like, "Have you seen Johnny Dingle since he died? He's smoking." I will say that the dick falling off scene and the sex judging scene,

the dream sequences, the dream sequence both disturb me. Like I got it from a comedic standpoint, but I was just like too much. Like watching him crawl all over her in those like little heart shorts is like,

by the way, I wrote that too. There was something about this era in which in in all of film, young teenage boys were always represented as having boxer shorts with hearts on them.

Yeah, I had those. You had them? Yeah. I was going to say I've NEVER EVEN SEEN THAT. I had a real issue with my boxer shorts cuz they were so hard to get in my jeans. I had to really push them down.

I didn't even I wasn't even allowed to have boxer shorts. Oh, really? Oh, no. I was tiny whiteies all day.

Once in like teenage years boxers weren't popular exactly until a little bit later for

Well, once Bill Clinton said he wore boxers. Okay. I was all That was it. Now, did did he say that and then you paused it and were like, "Wait a minute." And I saw him wi I had that device. I saw him waist down in a pair of boxers. Look great. Uh heart boxers. Um hi. What's your name?

Sam. Sam. What's your question? Maybe I missed it in the prom scene at the very end when he comes back to life. Did Philip Seymour Hoffman not come back?

So he is alluded to as being alive. What? I'm sorry. Like is Philip Seymour Hoffman dead in this alternate reality?

Wait, what alter? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He must be alive because he does say he says in the the voice over like the only thing I wish is that I killed Buster or whatever his name was.

Buck, which is Matthew Fox. Oh, Buck is Matthew Fox. No. So, it's because I'm wondering where he was. He wasn't in the background.

You're right. He wasn't in the in the scene. But if we do if they if he sees uh St. Peter and they get sent back to the robbery scene, then nothing after the robbery scene has taken place. He goes back to the beginning. Right. Well, who knows? This guy. What do

you mean? Who knows? This guy. I don't think you can say who knows. We know. We watched it.

Well, we were Well, we weren't with Matthew Fox or Philip Seymour Hoffman that night. We don't know what

they might have died that night, but the events of the the events of the Don't Gaslight me on stage. Don't Hey, hey, hey, hey.

I don't know. Do your research. I don't like both of you teaming up gaslight. Didn't Didn't he say at one point when he was in front of St. Peter like, "Oh, and I didn't mean to kill Buck." Didn't he say that?

He said he didn't mean to eat him. It does say he wish he killed Buck. Meaning when his when his buddy says, "I know what you should do. You should when Buck comes to pick her up for the prom. You should kill and eat him. Wear his suit and take her to the prom." He doesn't do that. And later in the movie, he says, "I wish I'd done that plan." Right.

Well, that's crazy. That's He's a creep. He's a creep. Hi. What's your name? I really want him to be.

Hi, I'm Jessica. Um, to June's point of Matthew Fox's Buck, you're saying he's not a villain. And it's true because what it seems to me is this girl who's supposed to be the sweetest, loveliest, most beautiful, popular girl in the school that's nice to everybody is essentially now cheating on her boyfriend who has done nothing wrong. In fact, she agreed to go to the prom with him. He came and like did this grand gesture. They apologized to each other and he had his friend's an [ __ ] but he hasn't done anything wrong.

And there's nothing to say that he lied about not showing up for her, right? And and I also do believe his car broke down and he had to walk. So maybe

I don't believe that for a second. Here's what I don't believe. Anything coming out of the mouth of anyone wearing a Letterman jacket. If you're wearing a Letterman jacket in a teen movie in 1987, fact, you are a villain.

But that's why I was confused because I didn't have any of those feelings. And I do believe I do agree. Believe men. I agree with June on that.

That's a shirt. Believe men. Believe men on the back. tickle my paws. God. Um, what's your name? What's your question?

Hi, my name is Anthony. Um, I just wanted to ask more about the mom and the plates with the dog.

I don't know how many people noticed that the bit running in that. Okay, tell us the bit because I don't think we did.

Okay. The first time the mom is serving breakfast, the dog just snatches all the food off the plate.

Takes all the eggs. Oh, that's the second time. The first time. Yeah, June. Yeah. Sorry, June. Hey, June. That's the second time. I believe.

Hey, let's believe this man. Hold on. Wow. This guy's I believe him. This guy's fired up.

I just want to say sorry to June. Sorry. Wow. June was the first time. It's like It looks like bagels or toast, but the dog just takes the mom's like, "All right." And sets the plate on the

Okay, so the dog is eating all the food. It's a funny bit. I They laughed at the eggs. I didn't see the first one. Thoughts? Well, I do well, I do think that it's leading to what we what ends up happening, which is the dog takes the, you know, the body and pulls it from the fridge. I think what we're

great setting up is that this dog will eat anything, anywhere, anytime, any day.

And I love it. And that's the rich text that is this movie. There are things happening.

Listen to what the movie is telling you. There are things happening that we didn't even pick up on that it takes a man in the audience to illustrate.

Thank you. Finally, a man asking question. Explain it as only a man can by sparking it at us.

Here's what I wish cuz some some of these movies of this time, although I guess we don't know what time it was after all, 93.

Well, we do know what time it was. Here's the thing. My here's my question about 93. Was this movie made in 93 though as a period film to feel like 87?

No. Ah, god damn it. It's crazy. Because what's important to me about movies, well, the movies I saw when I was 13 and pretty and a lot of Molly Ringwald like what was important to me about those women was that they were I wanted him to let go of her as an idea. Wouldn't that be great? and a concept and find like when I saw him sitting next to that girl and staring at her arms in the library, I thought, well, who's she?

I mean, he's looking at her because he wants to eat her. I know he wants she wants to chomp chomp chomp down on those arms.

But that was a very important narrative to me to like I thought that she had a strong girl. I'm sorry.

I thought she had a strong sense of self. I the library girl in the library because she didn't allow him to eat her. Wow.

Okay, now that's interesting on that. She just was like, "Hey, back off, man." Like, you know, and I thought like she just held her, you know, she wasn't like, "I'm a nerd. You can eat me." Like that's like

I guess she wasn't. The only my only the only flaw I see with the movie is that I don't even understand what he's still doing at school.

I don't either. But let's be clear, if I'm dead, I am not going to school. It seems like he just wants to go hang out with THAT GIRL.

YES. AND FIND HER ELSEWHERE. I guess what I'm saying is that I felt like the late There were movies that that let go of the idea of the hot girl who had nothing else to offer but being hot and popular. And I thought by 93

we had done our time with that. And that's what's the idea that I'm in college when this movie comes out is Stone Cold Chili.

Yeah. And I was I was 13. I'm a lot younger. Go on, Paul. Next person. Wow. I was just just getting my period.

Savage flex from a choice woman. Well, now no one brought up this fact and I'm surprised LA. Now you might you might want to say brace yourself. Sorry. You might not want to say it. I'm going to say to you, brace yourself.

Wait, so who's saying brace yourself? I'm saying I just want to be clear just so as we're cutting it together. So who do you want to say brace yourself and when?

Because for us to say brace yourself, we don't we don't know to. Yeah. Well, hang on a second. Hang on a second. So you guys go 3 2 1

brace yourself. No, I have to say it to you. No, I say to you. Not you're you're not presenting to me. I'm presenting to you. Brace yourself.

We're going to go on a little bit. Let's do one thing. We just do it. You guys on three. Just say you brace yourself. One, two, three.

You brace yourself. No. You brace yourself. Okay. No. You brace yourself. You brace yourself.

Listen to me right now. You better brace yourself because I will not I will not do it.

You know what? I will. I'll brace myself. You did it. Wow. Wow. This is a By the way, you guys got a good one. Oh god.

Um, people have asked what if what happened to the lead actress in this movie, Tracy Lind.

I'm going to tell you. Oh god. I am bra I am actually I am bracing myself. Okay.

Tracy Lind. This is the actress in the movie. The in 1997, Lind went public with accusations of physical abuse regarding her boyfriend Dodie Fed. She claimed that they were physical with each other and he threatened her with a 9 mm Beretta when she rejected his proposal. Two weeks later, Dodie died in a car accident with his new partner, Princess Diana.

I couldn't. Honestly, I didn't brace myself enough with all that. I didn't I didn't get brace.

Consider me brace. Wow. Wait. Wow. And then I the the final part is after his passing, Lind retired from acting, stating, "I'm an intensely private person, so this whole acting thing was just the wrong path for me."

Lights like we got to I have to go. Show's over. TICK TICKLE MY PAWS. HOW DO YOU COME BACK FROM WOW.

I'm just p I just I can't wrap my head around this. It's a It's a It's a It definitely

a million years. I couldn't have come up with that. Didn't think. Who played her in the Princess Diana movie that we did?

Just go over the timeline with me one. Okay. So, so she's engaged in So, this movie is made in 93 and 97.

I'm 13. Jason's in college. Go on. Yes. In 97, in 97 she is dating Dodie Fed. She goes out and says, "Hey, this guy's been abusive to me." Um,

in 97 she's saying these things. She's dating him and then two weeks after dies in 98, right?

So two weeks two weeks after she went public, Dodie died in a car accident with his new partner, Princess Diana.

This changes everything. Wow. Oh, there's a little more. Okay, hold on. Who said that? You did. Oh, wow. I knew you had it. All right.

All right. Great. Get that guy out of here. I say that. I do that bit. What do we got? So when Chuck uh Philip Seymour Hoffman is chasing uh Johnny with a baseball bat, Eddie comes out and he's reading a Time magaz or People magazine

and Princess Die and Charles's divorce is on the magazine. So okay, but that's just pure coincidence, right?

No, here here's my theory. Here's my theory. Dodie was having trouble in his relationship with Tracy, was watching this movie and saw that Dye was on that cover, single, ready to mingle when she died.

Do we know though for sure that Dodie and Tracy were dating during the film during Yes. Was that during this period? Do we know that?

Oh, no. I think he was just re-watching it trying to recoming it for the pod. What what I'm saying is knowing that in the future we would cover it.

Could be I thought you said pause. I genuinely thought you said pause and I was like

pause the episode right now to see Jason make it. Oh, and if you're listening to the podcast, do pause.

Do pause during the pod because there is nudity. I want to I want to agree with the story and say they're dating and he's like, "Well, what do you do?" And she's like, "I'm an actress." And she's like, "Well, what have you been in?" She's like, "My boyfriend's back. Let's watch it." Then sees that magazine, gets an idea, and then we move on to

How many years later is that, though? Like what? Three years later. Oh. Oh, okay. Okay. Three, four years later.

I see. I see. I see. Wow. You know what? By the time it's on home video, this has been maybe the biggest bombshell since Katherine Higgel replaced Megan Markle in

Oh, yeah. Suits. Was that it? Was that it? I don't think she replaced I think we were just figuring out how many members of the royal family were in suits or connected to suits.

There was some reveal that that similarly I feel like threw me entirely off track for days.

Well, I mean a couple things that I mean I can get you back to some stuff and say that the movie was originally offered to Peter Jackson. He turned it down. Um, and then, um, and then they gave it to another guy, uh, Adam Marcus, but then Disney was like, he's too young. And so, he went on to go make Jason goes to hell, the final Friday, and then they bring in Bob Baliban, but they kind of dangle the script in front of Bob Baliban uh, for months, and then they go, "Finally, go shoot this thing. Give him two weeks notice to shoot the movie."

And he nailed it. Yes. Maybe it should be Bob. You know how they have those shirts like an Al a film by Albert Brooks or you know a film they should be like a film by Bob Balaban. They should make that that I would by the way I would love it.

Okay so Oh man as we digest I I I don't I'm not recovered. This are we are we truth Let me ask a real question. Are we okay?

Are we are we safe? No. All right. Obviously, we have opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

Hi, I'm Kelsey. My boyfriend's back. But wait, he's not my boyfriend. Hey. Hey. He's not my boyfriend. He's kind of obsessed and never had the balls to talk to me. Hey. Hey. I'm with Matthew Fox. He a bullet for me. Hey, sure, I'll go to prom. I never expected him to come back from the grave. Hey, ha. He's kind of cute. He's starting to rot and we're making out in his car. Hey. Hey. Oh, his ear fell off. Hey, that's kind of the whole plot. Hey, there's Philipsy Morhoff. After all the high jinks and he makes it to the prom.

He goes right to the afterlife. Johnny finds out that he should have never died. So they send him back to the start. We're back at the beginning with the bot robbery. Hey. Hey. I'm almost done. I ALMOST

THIS IS a recap, madam. Hey, I'm getting it. Five stars. Hey, the mom was the best part. My time was fun and it was a silly ride. Hey, hey, how did this get made?

Nice. Amazing. Great. Great job. That was good because it it reminded me of a lot of if not all of the plot.

Yeah, it was great. Good refresher at the end of the show. Um, there are,250 uh reviews of this film. 82% are five-star. Now, I will tell you this much. There is a review here. I will not read it in full, but I need to give you just a taste of it. It is from Dr. Jacques Culardo uh from uh July 7th, 2012. I'm going to read a middle paragraph and the last paragraph. Okay. School teachers and other school personnel are just what they are, a school of cold fish that stink high heavens like rotting salmon in a polluted river. And I will not say what happens to the trout in the lake. Dead fish can also be zombies. But then do they not have fishbones in their bodies?

Rather pearl amberlating decaying radiations like in nuclear radiations. Don't touch it. Burns. Now, that's the middle paragraph. It goes on. And I'll read the final paragraph. The film is funny, though, of course, not as funny as Michael Jackson's rewriting of The Night of the Living Dead. It is true here that we have The Prom of the Living Dead mixing with The Dead Living. That sounds more romantic than terrifying, but it is horrifyingly gross at times and Shakespearean at others. They even have a balcony scene of Romeo and Juliet revisited for young zombies with decaying muscles. I wonder where the three weird sisters are.

Three times of course five stars. It takes the delirium tremens of the dead. So if you want to read the nine paragraph review, we'll put that up on the website. And my understanding is that's what you do in auditions. You read that that review.

I read all these things in here. Yeah. It says, "Poor Dingle was a dongle in his life and as a zombie." Yeah, it's it's Yeah, it's

But that does that does suggest is that and I'm shocked none of us have brought it up. Thriller being another kind of zombie uh uh romantic zombie uh of course dancing that this movie did not have but like that's another very toemic zombie portrayal in this era 1987. Then Jay Bordalan in 2001 writes, "Well, first of all, what's up? I love this movie with a passion and I've seen it at least 40 times, but last night I rented it for the 41st and I noticed something I never noticed before. The name of the song they danced to at the end of the movie. I had my closed captioning running and all of a sudden it pops up. Hanging on for dear life by MMC.

Now, I was thinking that MMC stood for Mickey Mouse Club, but I don't think in this case it does. Also, comment to other Amazon reviewers. I know too much more than anybody about movies and music. But if you want to know the name of a song or something and you got to leave your email address in the review so people can write you back. Well, peace and love and chicken grease. Bye-bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

And again, I would argue that these happened at the end. Don't know. Wait, do you think that bye bye bye was like uh Backstreet Boys. Wait, who's saying bye bye bye?

Inc. In sync. He did. You got to email him. Yeah, he did leave his email address in the review so you could be like, "Well, what is MMC?" Like, I guess he was asking you to like say like, "I'm not going to tell you here. I'm not going to tell you what MMC.

Let's take this offline." Yeah. Um and and you know, every now and then we do one-star reviews. One star reviews, first opinions. These are people who don't like the film. And I wanted to call out this one um written by Shelly. This movie would be fine if they didn't use the Lord's name in vain. A total waste of money if you're like me and find that very offensive. We don't watch anything with foul spelled fo w language. We don't watch anything with foul language or GD in it. One star. Disappointed. Has no issue with the resurrection of a non Christlike figure, but really has a problem with them using Christian God's name.

I also have to agree. Well, we know we all recommend it. Yeah. Although I feel like you are a no. I'm a I'm a Yes. I'm a Yes. But I was like I would love a simpler pass on it. Like I just would love it to be streamlined a little bit. Like a nerdy kid who realizes something here. He realizes nothing. He gains nothing. When he goes back and asks her out, he's still asking her out with like he saved her life. So she's like, "Oh yeah, I'm indebted to you." But the only reason why she's impressed is like, "Wow, he saved my life." I feel like you need to have something more to build a relationship on.

It's not much of a hero's journey. I agree. I mean, all that's true, but it's so much fun. I mean, this movie to me was just good oldfashioned fun. And I do appreciate a comedy that's going to take take a strong comedic premise point of view and just play it out beat by beat. We don't make those types of movies anymore. And despite your concerns, I really wish I wish we did. I really like I watched this and I was like, h I'm craving this kind of dumb everybody's committed. Everybody's on the same page. Everybody knows what the game is and we're all just like continuing to build it out. I really miss these movies and I really enjoyed it.

Agree. Agree wholeheartedly. this movie is a home run for me. And the idea that this is not like that kids don't have a this to watch.

And maybe they do and I just don't know what it's called and it's on YouTube and everybody farts into a can and everybody's like, "You smelt it." Um I don't know.

I like that one. But um but this to me is boy, what a blast. It's like why does comedy have to be so real now? Boring.

Yes. Well, be yes, I agree completely. this to me. Dramdy has killed comedy. Oh, yeah.

For real. Yeah, it has. It's true. And I I miss these movies. I miss these movies from the the John Huy versions of these to the Teen Wolves to this to to the be movie like this version of it. Dead.

This is a BL I will watch Dead Let's do Dead Heat. I would like to do Dead Put it on the diet. We absolutely should do it because that's

Treat Williams, Joe Piscapo, comedy legends. Maybe let's not do I actually think that Treat Williams is the one who's the zombie, right?

Don't scold me. Sorry. Prepare yourself. Brace yourself. Brace yourself. Um, yeah. No, I I

You brace yourself. Okay, fine. I recommended 100%. This was and I will say this, Paul, your criticisms, though they may be valid, I did not it didn't interrupt me from enjoying this movie at all. Full stop.

And that's where I will say while I had criticisms, I enjoyed the movie and I enjoyed what it did.

Did what' you say? I said I know you did. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. The only way the movie could be better would be um nudity.

Well, we just got to figure out when they're telling us to pause it. Yeah. And it would have been great if like when his dick falls off and rolls down his his pajama pants if it fell out and we saw it. We all want to know what Dingle's dangling. We all want to know.

Dingles dangle. Tickle my paws. Uh what do we want the shirt to be? A film by Bob Baliban. wanted to be tickle my paws or listen to men

Brian Orlando. Holy [ __ ] Brian Orlando Brian Orlando electronics. And it's a it's a

Brian Orlando Electronics. That's it. That Yeah. Uh I think we could do Brian Orlando Electronics.

Are we going to get Okay. I'm not worried about getting sued by Brian Orlando. Okay.

Come after me. Yeah, everybody that Paul went to grade school with is dead. Anyway,

they all died in that mysterious gas leak. Um, all right. Uh, that's our show. [ __ ] I just want to say TB, this episode has been unhinged.

So great. So great. And well done. You guys were You guys were part of a great episode. What a fun one.

Every This was This was unreal. And I only feel bad for the people that watched Ghosts of Mars last night.

Sometimes that's a hand true dog [ __ ] movie. Thank you so much for coming. Uh, sign up for the Largo mailing list. Great shows here all the time. Thank you to our staff. Thank you to Molly. Thank you to Scott. Thank you to Cody. Thank you to Quinn. Uh, thank you everybody. Good night. Bye-bye.

Thanks for joining us for such a choice episode. And as always, a huge shout out to our pals at Largo, Flanny Griffy, uh, Michael in the booth, and our recording engineer, Brendan Burns. I also want to thank our videographer, Wesnap. That's right, for the first time ever, we'll be releasing some video clips for this live show on social media. So, make sure you check out our social pages on HDTGM for some hot video footage. Now, our t-shirt design for this episode says Brian Orlando Electronics. It has a little joystick on it. It's perfect. It's subtle. It's great. You can get as a sticker, a mug, whatever. It is uh the kind of designs I love with this show.

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We're going to be on the dark web set, which by the way, if you've not been watching the dark web, you got to catch up. Our studio is burnt down. We are hallucinating in the middle of the woods. And this week, we did a YouTube Kids show version of the show. This is not a joke. This is not a bit. It is available on YouTube Kids. It's also available on regular YouTube. But watch how Rob and I have to stay within the very specific lines of YouTube Kids. It's a blast. Now, this show, the Christmas show that I'm doing with Jason, June, Jessica, we're going to be doing that live on December 10th.

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Questions about this episode

What is discussed in "My Boyfriend's Back LIVE!"?

In order: 0:00 Teen Wolf, My Boyfriend's Back, Bob Balaban, Diane Rael; 10:00 Teen Wolf; 20:00 Matthew Fox, My Boyfriend's Back; 30:00 Teen Wolf, My Boyfriend's Back; 40:00 Philip Seymour Hoffman, Matthew Fox, Teen Wolf; 50:00 Dodie Fed, Matthew Fox, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Tracy Lind; 1:00:00 My Boyfriend's Back, Bob Balaban, Matthew Fox.

What is mentioned in this How Did This Get Made? episode?

9 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Teen Wolf, My Boyfriend's Back, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Matthew Fox, Bob Balaban, Dodie Fed. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "My Boyfriend's Back LIVE!"?

The episode runs 1 h 18 min; the transcript is about 13,569 words in 344 timestamped sections.

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