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Fascist Frat Party

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Fascist Frat Party", an episode of I've Had It published January 15, 2026 (1 h 20 min, about 16,391 words). It mentions 9 people, works and ideas, including Donald Trump, Jim Aosta, CBS, ICE, Biden White House.

What this episode is about

The discussion focuses on the current political climate in Washington, D.C., particularly the resurgence of MAGA influences, as experienced by the speakers during their interactions in the city. They share humorous anecdotes about navigating social settings amidst differing political views while contrasting their experiences with the previous administration and its impact on the atmosphere in the capital.

Key takeaways

  • In D.C., MAGA vibes turn restaurants into political safe havens—where to eat is a matter of ideology.
  • The White House: from revered institution to frat party; just one administration's misstep can redefine history.
  • JMU makes playoffs—proof that underdogs can outshine the heavyweights in a money-driven college sports arena.
  • Trump's reign turned the White House into a 'goddamn show'; a king's court or a circus?
  • Kicking out the clowns may take more than a change of guard; restoring reverence for the presidency is crucial.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Jim Aosta, Biden White House, Donald Trump
  2. – 20:00: Donald Trump
  3. – 30:00: Donald Trump
  4. – 40:00: Donald Trump
  5. – 50:00: Donald Trump
  6. – 1:00:00: Booking.com, Donald Trump, Wild Grain, Zip Recruiter
  7. – 1:10:00: Donald Trump, Jim Aosta
  8. – 1:19:33: Donald Trump, Jim Aosta, IHIP News

Notable quotes from "Fascist Frat Party"

  • But I have an amazing co-host filling in for her. She had an obligation and is none other than Jim Aosta. And this is what you have to do, Jim, right now.
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  • The last time I was in DC, I was invited to like a creator event at the Biden White House, a Christmas party.
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  • Right now, and I don't want to jump too far ahead, but the problem that we have, I used to call Donald Trump the catch me if you can president when I covered him the first time around.
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Full transcript with timestamps

So, are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready? One, two, three. Patriots, Gatriots, Vatriots, Black Triots, and Brown Triots, Pumps is not here today, but I have an amazing co-host filling in for her. She had an obligation and is none other than Jim Aosta. And this is what you have to do, Jim, right now. After I do the after I do the call to the patriots, the gatriots, the black patriots, the brown triots, I say, "And all of the people who try to marginalize them and then pump says can

[ __ ] off." [ __ ] off. I love it. Yes. I have no problem with saying the f- word, by the way.

I love it. That's not something I've had it with. Me neither. Yeah. Welcome to I've had it. Jim Aosta,

great to see you. Good to be with you, Jen. Really nice to see you. Listener, we're in New York and so you journeyed up from Washington DC. What's it like in DC with the MAGA takeover? Is it different or the vibes different?

Oh, Jesus Christ. It is um It's my worst nightmare. Um I thought we were rid of this clown.

Yeah. Uh four years ago, but no, they've come back with a vengeance. Fortunately, the DC restaurant scene is set up where, you know, the the MAGA people have their restaurants and their places they like to go and they're not the places I like to go. Okay. So, I won't say where those places are because I don't want them to show up there. But so far so good. It's okay,

right? Yeah. The last time I was in DC, I was invited to like a creator uh event at the Biden White House, a Christmas party.

Yeah. And I'd never been in the White House. And I was so excited. Like pre pre-demolition White House

pre-demolition. So it was like in December and last December and it was Biden's final like month and we were in there. My husband came with me and we were walking around and I just said, "Josh, like next year, think about the energy in this place and think about all the [ __ ] and all of the emotionally stunted dweebs that are going to be walking around in the White House

like Steven Miller basically. Oh my god. A thousand Steven Millers. No, I mean, you know, I covered the White House for almost eight years and just about every day I walked through those gates, I still was like, "Holy [ __ ] I'm at the White House."

It's so cool. It is. It's it's a cool place to be and you know, of course, this [ __ ] guy had to go and demolish half of it within a year of coming back. Um, but you know, I remember what it was like the first time around when he came in after Obama and they were all just traumatized. I sat down with this deputy White House press secretary, Eric, and it looked like, you know, he had been in a car accident. I mean, this is how traumatized they were at that time. And you got the sense that these were were people who who understood how important this place was, how you had it treated with reverence. And when I covered the Trump people, it was just it had turned into a frat party. I remember over at the EEOB, as they call it, the uh office building that's next to the White House, the giant

Yes. where the vice president's office where the vice president, the Eisenhower executive office building they call it.

And on Friday afternoons, you would see these kids on the balconies with red solo cups. They were throwing like kegggers on Friday afternoons during the Trump administration. This is how seriously they treated the [ __ ] place. And when they all got swept out and Biden came back, and I agree with you, it it it turned back into like the Westwing TV show, like what you would think, like people who obviously respect the place. But while Trump was there, there was I mean, and it's obviously the case once again, where they've turned it into a goddamn [ __ ] show. bulldozed half of the, you know, almost half of the White House. And it just goes to show you what we're up against right now.

This is somebody who thinks he's a king. And when you work for the king, you think you're a king. And so they're just going to do whatever the [ __ ] they want for the next three years is is how it appears to me. Not to go on a tangent.

No, I know. And despite all of those grievances, Jim, I do want to ask you like I would call it a kitchen table grievance before we dive into the magcker.

Exactly. Sorry, I I jumped I jumped ahead. I'm glad because it that is something that I think occupies a lot of real estate in all of our brains because we all care passionately about being Americans and care and care passionately about each other. And so it's just an all-consuming component, but sometimes we get to get irritated at just normal [ __ ] So what have you had at what Jim Aosta?

Okay, I have to give a shout out to my alma mater JMU. I went to James Madison, um, an upand cominging state school in Virginia. They made it to the college football playoff. Uh, I don't want to get too sportsy, but there was there was a lot of [ __ ] on the internet, on social media, particularly on Twitter. Some some notable sports figures who were [ __ ] all over JMU getting into the College Football Playoff. People like Nick Sabin and so on. I'm like, "Hey, [ __ ] you. This is these are the rules."

Yeah. For getting into the College Football Playoff. They made it in. And by the way, they put up more than 30 points on Oregon. They put over over 500 yards. And Alabama, Nick Sabin, your old school, didn't do jack [ __ ] in the college football playoff. And so, uh, I mean, I guess they got through the first round, but but then they got blown out. And, you know, my my sense of it is is that we've college sports has turned into semi-pro sports. Like, what are we doing here? Yeah.

And are we just going to have it be the top schools with all the money and everybody else can just go [ __ ] themselves? That that doesn't work. The other thing I have a little bit of a beef with is NFL officiating. I did tell your uh producer Sam, I did want to talk about this. I'll just mention it very briefly, but like if we have instant replay for are you this close or that close to a first down, but we don't have instant replay for pass interference for all the sports fans out there, this has to change. So that's my other grievance from a sports standpoint.

Yes. Yeah. I uh I'm not that into football because I like to see athletes full face so I can feel an emotional attachment to their expression. Yes.

So I love tennis. You don't get that with football. No. I don't know if they're excited.

I do love tennis. I love tennis and I love basketball and both have, you know, in basketball you see them like, you know, do a replay challenge.

I love that move. Yeah, the challenge is great. But then now in tennis, they have the Hawkeye everywhere except for the French open because the French are so stubborn, which makes me kind of love them. Kind of like, "Fuck you. We're not going to be nice to you unless we feel like it."

I think that's how it should be. But they have these Hawkeye cameras and so now it's just an instant replay.

It's amazing. I know. I watch it, too. I love tennis, too. I go to the DC Open every year. It's a great event. And it it shows you like the instant replay of the the ball landing by the line and it tells you if it's within like an inch or something of being in or out. I love that.

And then at Rolling Garos at the French Open, the umpire goes down and looks for a mark on the clay. And there's a gajillion marks on the clay.

Yeah. And then they're like, "Oh." And so, but it's God bless the French. I know. Okay, let's dive into these grievances. Let's first talk about ICE, which I think needs to be abolished.

Yes. I think that this is an organization that's behaving like ISIS. And you and I are old enough to remember when we would see these videos when uh America was doing nation building in the Middle East, right? And people would get kidnapped and they had hostages and they had on masks and all of these Republicans were talking about how chicken [ __ ] it was that they weren't man enough to even show their faces and they wore these masks.

And now I see this, you know, similar thing where I'm from originally in Oklahoma and your producer Sam can attest to this. You'll see a big pickup truck with a bunch of flags in the back of it totally giving ISIS and then these ICE agents with these masks. I'm just it's just amazing to me how irony is so lost on these people and just how morally depraved they are.

Yeah. And and listen, we can get into this and expand the conversation and talk about all this stuff, but I this is I think a defining moment for the Democratic party. I think if they are not going to take the position that ICE should be abolished u the moment a Democratic president comes into office, then you really shouldn't be up on the stage. It just doesn't make sense. Like, yes, you may think, okay, if we triangulate and, you know, I'll move to the left over here and then back to the center for the general election. We don't want any of that [ __ ]

Um, ICE has gotten to a point, I mean, take a look at what happened in Minneapolis. If we have a situation in this country where the government can go out and murder a US citizen with no uh without uh any investigation that is credible, uh then we've become a Putinlike thugcocracy and we that is not sustainable and we can't have a situation where, you know, the governor of Minnesota says we're going to bring in our national guard to protect our citizens from ICE. I mean, we all know where this is going to end up leading. It's going to end up with people shooting at each other in the streets, and we just can't have that in this country. The problem that we have right now, and I don't want to jump too far ahead, but the problem that we have, I used to call Donald Trump the catch me if you can president when I covered him the first time around.

Yeah. Now he's the you can't catch me president. He thinks he is beyond, and this is because of the Supreme Court giving him a blank check, the immunity decision, saying you can do whatever the [ __ ] you want as president. And he has said, "Yeah, okay. That's exactly what I'm going to do." And so invade Venezuela, invade Greenland, let ice go crazy across the country. But you can't have a situation like we had in Minnesota play out all over the country. The citizens are not going to tolerate it. People are not going to they're just not going to tolerate it. And the governor of whatever state can go out there and say, "Please remain calm. We can't have rioting in the streets. That's going to give them what they want." Blah, blah. I I totally endorse that view, by the way.

We don't we don't want that. We don't want to give Trump and Steven Miller what they want and end up with blood in the streets. But at some point it's just going to happen. Like people are going to they're going to reach the point where they've had enough. And to me, ICE is the perfect it it just crystallizes perfectly exactly what we're up against in this country where Donald Trump has said and and this has nothing to do with immigration. This has to do with can I build a secret police force that can go out there and scare and intimidate the [ __ ] out of people and basically say we're in charge. You're not. Uh you're not. The states be damned. uh local municipalities be damned. And that is not sustainable.

Okay. I want to ask you something about Trump because you've been around him more than any person I've ever sat across from. And so this is my opinion of him. He is a guy. He's so narcissistic and he's so into himself and whatever the shiny object is in front of him on that moment is what he's obsessed with.

And I do believe he's a racist, but he doesn't have conviction about his racism like Steven Miller does. Like Steven Miller's a racist and he'll die on that hill.

Trump conversely, he's for sure a racist but you know, he's a member of this party that's all about like, you know, we don't like Muslims and they're super Islamophobic and they don't want anybody who wasn't born in America here and walks in Zoron mom Donnie, goodlooking

New Yorker, took on all these billionaires and ra Trump was razzledazzled. He didn't see a Muslim. He saw a goodlooking winner. He didn't give a [ __ ] where he was born. He didn't give a [ __ ] that he has brown skin. He didn't give a [ __ ] about his religion cuz he liked the fact that he was a good-looking winner. And you saw all of the um people who used to do your job who are now like joke fringe podcasters and they were pissed like that Pobiac. He turns around.

I saw the video and he you know he little you know [ __ ] out of there really fast. But let me ask you this.

He had a hissy fit. just saying he had when you worked in the White House and you know you would go after Trump pretty hard. I loved it by the way. I was like inject into my veins. Loved it.

And so then like the cameras go down. Is there like [ __ ] buddy moments where Trump's like, "Jim, you're such a dick. Couldn't you be nicer?" I mean what? Take us behind the curtain of that.

Okay. So in the beginning, this is the way I explain it to people. Donald Trump, I think, went into all of this thinking this was sort of like when he was a player on the New York scene and that the New York Post, the New York Post, they're basically there to perform a PR role. Uh, you know, I show up, I give a press conference, you know, I do my thing where I look around the room like this, like on the Apprentice. Yeah. and the the fawning New York press corps just sort of asked me questions that helped me, you know, sell my products, my my shitty Trump wine, my shitty Trump vodka, the planes, and so on. He thought that was going to be how it worked going out on the campaign trail and into the White House. But if you go out on the campaign trail and you're going to say we're going to ban all Muslims coming into this country or if you say that all Mexican immigrants are rapists and criminals or if you're going to say uh

that I can shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and get away with it, the press is the political press is not the New York press and they're going to respond differently and they're going to start asking hard questions. There was a press conference in New York in May of 2016 where he kind of went off on me and he says, "Oh, you're a real beauty. I know who you are." Um, and you know, but I think at that moment he thought this was still kayfabe. You know what that term is from professional wrestling? It means it's all pre-coordinated. Okay,

that's the term for it in pro wrestling. You know, I do this then you do that. You bodys slam me here. I throw you into the ropes over there.

He my sense of it was he thought all of this was an act. Now during the campaign, I will tell you it it did not feel like an act to us. We would be in the press corps. We called that it the press cage at these Trump rallies and there would be tens of thousands of people and he would whip these people into a frenzy calling us the disgusting news media, the dishonest news media, the liars, the scum and so on. And his supporters would come up to the press cage. These were the bike racks that were assembled around us to protect us.

We also had bodyguards and they would scream at us and call us a traitor and all this other stuff. It got to the point where not only did we need bodyguards, we had to run to our cars after the Trump rallies were over because we were worried that they would kick the [ __ ] out of us.

Yeah. Uh Trump never got the message that the the the hostility that he pedled, the outrage that he put out there was absorbed by people and then directed back to us. He gets into the White House. He and I have that press conference where he calls me fake news and so on. And it just sort of ratcheted up and got worse and worse and worse. And I think what happened in his mind was it just it changed from being an act to, oh, I think I see what I can do now. I I control this army of people. I control, you know, through this cult-like following this ability to go after certain segments of American society. And it was early on in his in his administration where I kind of got the sense that things were starting to change because, you know, he he still had this mentality very early on that, okay, this is still an act. I got a call from Hope Hicks one day after a press conference. Do you remember her? She was

the the lady that was like his press aid and she was like a former Ralph Lauren model or something like that. Didn't know what she was doing. And she calls me after this press conference. This is like February of 2017, so a month after he gets in. And she goes, "Jim, I just wanted you to know I talked to the president and he said, um, that Jim was very professional today and that Jim gets it. Jim gets it." And I'm like, "Get what? I don't get [ __ ] Like, I'm here doing my job asking questions. This is not an act. This is not a show." And it was the next day that he first put out the tweet that the press in the United States is the enemy of the people. And it was pretty much from that point forward that he just sort of decided if I can't if we're not going to have this pro wrestling kayfabe thing where I do this and then you do that and it's all pre-arranged and pre-coordinated, I'm going to I'm going

to destroy you. I'm going to crush you. I'm going to knock you out of the way. And he's been he's been behaving that way ever since to the point where in 2018 when he had one one of his supporters was sending pipe bombs around. Remember that whole thing?

Sent it to CNN, sent it to a bunch of other media outlets, uh, Democratic figures like Hillary Clinton and so on. And we received actual pipe bombs that could have detonated and hurt people. Our people went to Trump's people and said, "You're going to get somebody killed." And he did not care. He said, "I'm going to keep calling you the enemy of the people, Sarah Huckabe." Sandra said, I asked her in a press conference, "Will you guys stop calling people the enemy of the people? Stop calling the press that." And she said, "No, we're not going to stop doing that." And it it turned from what he thought was an act into we're we're coming after you.

So, what you're describing, if I were your therapist and this was a work relationship,

it feels like therapy. Yeah. Sorry, I went on too long. I know. I love it. I because I think this is interesting and I think it's important. I would say, Jim, it sounds like you're in an abusive relationship

and you need to draw boundaries and you need to get out of this. So, obviously, Donald Trump is an abuser. He's physically abused women. He's an adjudicated rapist. He's an emotional abuser. He's a psychological abuser. And he's doing it at a mass scale right now. We know that. We've known that. You can read, you know, testimony from his first wife and go on and on. This that's never going to change. He's going to go into the ground and abuse her abusing people.

Yeah. What I'm interested in right now is the trickle down abuse that has happened. And as it pertains to being a journalist, you have people like Jeff Bezos and Larry Ellison that own these news organizations.

Yeah. And they allow for the president whom they're beholden to. They have all this [ __ ] you money, but they won't tell him [ __ ] you. Right.

Yeah. and they allow for this abuse to be uh hurled at their employees, making a very unsafe workspace. And to me, this is a really big story, but there's so much [ __ ] going on, we don't talk about it. But there's there's been such a a receding of uh decency of I'm your boss and I'm going to take care of you. I'm not going to allow you to be abused by this man. We are protected by the Constitution. the courts will protect us. And that is something that we really haven't spoken about. The corporate media throws their reporters either dictates what they can say

or what they can cover and how they can cover it and what phrases they can use, which I think is a form of abuse, not to mention very anti- you know, first amendment. And they also are throwing them around groups of people who will rile up the roofs to send, you know, and I've been down Fox has covered me before and so I' I've been in the hot seat of the MAGA, you know, we hope you die, we hope you get gang raped. I've received all of that.

I've got all that [ __ ] But what do you have to say of somebody who worked in corporate media and how the people that own corporate media are treating their employees? this trickle down abuse that they've picked up that Trump has normalized and now these industry leaders who should be advocating for safe good workplaces and safe spaces and they're allowing well he's an abuser so we're going to abuse our employees too like if you think about Jeff Bezos spiking the story of the endorsement of Kla Harris or what Barry Weiss is doing right now to those poor journalists at CBS that are serious journalists at at 60 Minutes so will you speak to that and and also Jim to your experience with when you started realizing, oh, these corporations don't care about journalism anymore.

Yeah. And I a couple of things. One is I have to tell you when I was at CNN and was the White House correspondent, I felt like I had the backing of my company. Uh Jeff Sucker, I have to give him a shout out. When he was president of CNN, um he stood by behind me 100%. Uh I never thought for a moment, gosh, I better be careful what I say or else my boss is going to come after me. I mean, if if I, you know, if he didn't like a question that I asked or a story that I did, he would tell me. Uh, he was a good boss in that way. But in terms of the job that we had to do to hold Trump accountable, he was 1,000% behind me. No question about it. Um, that has changed in our current media environment. And as I've been saying lately to folks on my show, when 60 Minutes is in trouble, we're all in trouble. And when Barry Weiss is is spiking a segment on Secott and the Goolog that they're running down

there in El Salvador, a torture prison basically that the US is is basically in business with. Uh that's a big story. That's a big problem. And when she can spike a story like that because they're now owned by the Ellison's which are MAGA friendly, um that's a that's a massive problem for this country. And I've been describing it this way. I think we have a system of state compromised media in this country. We do not have a free press the way that we did a couple of years ago. Um, if we have major corporations that are in charge of our media outlets that are under the thumb of the current administration, then you really don't have freedom of the press. You have um you have corporations running media companies that are subject to the whims of a mad king president. And that that is a that is a huge problem for all of us.

Um just the other day the uh anchor of the CBS Evening News ended his newscast by saying I we salute you Marco Rubio.

I mean not only was Walter Kronhite spinning in his grave. I was hoping he would come back from uh the great beyond to choke the living [ __ ] out of our [ __ ]

and say what the [ __ ] are you doing? put out a a statement and it was like, "We love America and we won't apologize for it." And I'm like, "That's not your job. Your job isn't to feel emotion towards America. Your job is relentless pursuit of the truth."

Also, get the [ __ ] out of here. We all love America. That's why we're doing this. The reason why I do my job, and I like doing my job, is I love this country,

right? I [ __ ] love this country. My dad came from Cuba in 1962. Uh three weeks before the Cuban missile crisis, fled communism. My mom, her folks were from the New York area. They came through Ellis Island. Uh one of my great-grandparents was a was a maid at the Dakota building here in in Manhattan. And these two families came together and there I popped out and I went to the White House and gave Donald Trump a hell of a [ __ ] time. That's America. And

I'm not saying that I'm exceptional or anything like that, but it's exceptional that something like that can happen in this [ __ ] world.

Yeah. And I when I saw CBS doing that, I said, "What the [ __ ] is going on with these people?" Because we all love this country. That is beside the point. What we should be having in this country is a free press that can hold the goddamn president of the United States accountable without everybody worried whether they're going to lose their [ __ ] job. That's you. You can't have a situation like that in this country. And that is why things like what we're doing right now is flourishing and thriving because the the American people can sniff this out.

Yes. They can see the pandering and the nonsense. And the other night, the the anchor on the CBS Evening News on January 6 is saying, "Well, on one hand, the White House is saying that the uh that Nancy Pelosi is responsible for January 6, and on the other hand, it was the riers." No, [ __ ] We saw it on goddamn television. It was a bunch of Trump thugs that he egged on and incited and sent to the goddamn capital. He's the one who did it. There is no both sides to that [ __ ] story. End of [ __ ] story. And there was a time in this business when the anchor of the CB I worked under Dan Rather in the early 2000s. I was here in New York working under Dan Rather. And there was a time in this business where the anchor of the CBS Evening News, if he got a call from the White House or the president of CBS News got a call from the White House complaining about the story, they would say, "Go [ __ ] yourself and hang up the

phone." And that is that, ladies and gentlemen, is how [ __ ] should get done in this country. The president of any news organization, the anchor of any evening newscast should be able to tell the White House press. I used to get calls from the White House press secretary when Obama was president. Jay Carney would call me and complain about you guys are covering Obamacare like you know like what the [ __ ] is going on here? The Obamacare website comes out. This actually happened. Remember it didn't work right away. Obama was out there saying it's going to be like orbits. You're going to be able to like if you book your flight you're going to be able to buy your healthcare. And the website didn't work. So we went on and we were on all day long saying that the Obamacare website didn't work. That's the news. I didn't he called and Jay Carney and God bless him. He's doing his job. Calls me in the booth, which is the

workspace we called it. You know, you and Wolf are really out of control talking about the Obamacare website. And I was like, "We didn't build the [ __ ] thing. You did." And that is how it should work. The the government get can get mad at you for doing your job, but you ought to be able to say right back, "Fuck off. I'm doing the news. This is how it works." And we've gotten completely away from that to the point where I mean if if the anchor of the CBS Evening News feels that the corporate overlords are making his life a living hell, then he should go on the air at the end of his broadcast and say, "They're making my life a living hell. I can't tell you guys the truth. I quit and do it on national television and walk the [ __ ] off the set." And if you're not going to do that, you're part of the goddamn problem.

A Christmas miracle has taken place. So, we decided to go do a live show in Atlanta on January 31st. And we were for sure like, the ticket sales are going to be lackluster. Nobody's going to become I'll be damned if it didn't sell out in like a couple of days. So, the organizer was like, you should do another date. And I'm like, that's a pretty big pretty big ass, pretty big ass for two old broads like us, right? So, we added an additional day. Ticket sales were getting about close to halfway. February 1st, center stage in Atlanta. And it is also a matinea because we are going to normalize matineese. We are going to normalize a reasonable start time. We're not going to start a show at 8 or 9:00 p.m.

No. Past bedtime. Wake up the next day feeling hung over, strung out. Why did I hang out with all of these radical leftist anti-fascists? We're not going to do that because we're pro- matinea. We're pro-democracy. We're anti- MAGA. and we're anti-fascist. Come see us. It's gonna be so fun. I love getting together at a live show with all of the people. It's such a community.

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A couple of things about that you said and then I want to move on to Fox News. Yeah.

But you you said I know you said that uh you know they say we love America and I always think this is a red flag. The Republicans do this a lot. They'll say

well I'm pro- family. I'm go everybody's [ __ ] pro- family. No you're not. And yeah and they're not. But anytime it's a red flag for me anytime somebody has to point be Captain Obvious. Right. And so Barry Weiss and Larry and David Ellison and this propaganda that they're trying I mean it's it's further than Fox. I mean it it is

even the little North Korean lady who reads the news is like dial it in. You know what I mean? It's like it's a little out of control. Even the North Korean lady's offended right now.

Yeah. Okay. Let's move on to Fox News. And recently I saw an interview with Jesse Waters and JD Vance.

Yes. And I know what you're talking about. Yeah. It was just in the last few days. And first of all, I just want to say that for me, when I hear men talk constantly, alleged heterosexuals talk constantly about masculinity and real men do this and those guys are bettas and real guys do that.

I always think, why are you talking so much about this? Jesse Waters, he does this all the time, right?

Men sucking straws, he thinks that's weak. Uh eating soup. Um, the way they sit, the way they posture themselves, and I had never seen Jesse Waters in person, and I have excellent,

excellent gayar gym. Excellent. Like I grew up. Oh, I mean, so we were at the DNC, Pumps and Me, and we were really excited to be there, right? Like we got invited and you've that's your world you've done, but for us it was like, oh my god, we're at the DNC and it was like Kamla, you know, and it's like the Bratz summer and all this stuff. All it was really fun.

Yeah. So, we're up kind of where all the news channels are and like Nancy Pelosi walks by and she's walking by and she's chewing out her eggs. I was like, "Oh my god, that's incredible." And she's walking so fast and then here comes Jesse.

Oh god. And I mean, I'm just going to say my gayar internal gay art page. Yeah. Beep beep beep. So then I started really digging into a lot of his reporting and a lot of it is on this issue of masculinity, this hyper masculinity. And I've learned that for a

Josh Holly does this too, right? It's another Yes. Did Have you seen the photograph that he took with the kicker?

With the kicker from the Kansas City, it looks like a gay engagement announcement.

I know people were like, "Well, just do just do it. Like you're going to have a great life. Just go." And my point, this is really important. I want to say that living growing up in Oklahoma and the reason I have such excellent gayar is because all of my very best friends are gay men. And

um a lot of these gay men were had to be in the closet in front of their families or at their work because homophobia is so horrific.

Yeah. And so I have no problem with people that have to passively be in the closet. I that's their business. Yeah. And I understand that everybody gets to a place where they're comfortable being open on their own terms and it's not my business.

Yeah. But I believe within the MAGA movement and a lot of the personalities like, you know, Benny Johnson, the content creator on the right, um, and others that they're constantly talking about either masculinity, alphas versus betas, or men sucking on straws, sucking on ice cream, sucking on soup. in the case of of Jesse Waters and it reminds me of when I hang out with my gay guy friends. Yeah. And we're talking about guys,

right? It's kind of gay. Yeah. And and I mean with Jesse Waters, it's like, you know, dude, you just talk about this way too much. I mean, honestly, like, you know, it's okay.

We we'll be here for you, right? I mean, one of the coolest things about our line of work is, I mean, I feel like because I was, you know, at my college radio station in college and stuff like that, we have been able to be around all walks of life. Yeah.

And a lot of these MAGA dudes, they didn't kind of grow up in that same environment. They grew up where they had to be like this good white Christian boys and, you know, we have to like girls or else, you know, [ __ ] my my parents will freak out and everything.

And I almost feel sorry for them because they didn't get what we got growing. I know you grew up in Oklahoma. I grew up in the DC area, so it was much more multicultural and diverse and everything else. And we've had gay people in DC since I mean since before I was born and they were out and and and pretty uh open about it. Um I I I have some like pity for people who feel like they have to repress this stuff and stuff it down.

It's like you're just missing out on having a great life. That's what's going on here. And with JD Vance, I'm like, you know,

like we know that the couch [ __ ] thing is a lie, but it kind of fits. It looks You look like a couch [ __ ] you know?

Well, and I you sound like one. I do have pity for them, but when it comes to them weaponizing

homophobia to rile up the people that you're talking about that haven't lived in multicultural places, um, and to say, "Oh, look at this, you know, look at these gays. Look at these crazy drag queens. people. Don't look at Elon Musk, the ketamine billionaire who's fleecing the entire country right now. Look at this drag queen.

Um, so I get really upset when they weaponize it. And the one the one who does it the most is somebody like uh my nickname for him, the speaker of the house is Moses Mike Grinder Johnson. And Moses Mike Grinder Johnson.

I love all your nicknames. By the way, when you when I had you on and you talked about Kangles, big taco tits or whatever.

Big taco tits. Kanks. Yeah. Yeah. God. So it's a thing of beauty. little Moses Mike, he h he and his wife have a pray the gay away,

you know, which is just it's torture and mental abuse, which, you know, he's completely abdicated Congress. And this this is my big push right now, and I want to run this by you. I want to do a

what do you call this, Kylie? Pull it in the parking lot. Scramble the Jets. Let's scramble the Jets. You know how millennials use that kind of corporate speak. Let's scramble the Jets on this. The Jedi want to scramble today is that Chuckle Schumer needs to resign ASAP. Today, like right now.

Yeah. No. And my producer Sam, who's here right now, we had this conversation in the car on the way over here. One of my favorite things that I've seen in recent days is the mayor of Minneapolis, Jake, saying, "Get the [ __ ] out of Minneapolis." And I and to me, that's what the Democrats need right now. And it sort of reminds me when you talk about Chuck Schumer, let's go back and talk about Mitch McConnell a little bit. And I mean, you know, he steals Supreme Court seats uh to the point now we have a MAGA majority that takes away women's rep reproductive rights.

We have a handmade on the Supreme Court and we have a situation where Donald Trump can do whatever he wants uh with immunity because of John Roberts in that Supreme Court. Mitch McConnell made that happen. And it's one of the reasons why around Washington and he was quite proud of this. So were the people around him. They would call him cocaine Mitch, you know, they loved, you know, like he was like a badass. He was like a

cocaine Mitch. Yeah. He was like a Mexican cartel drug lord, you know. Seriously. Yeah. That was a nickname. Google that [ __ ] It's I We've all memory hold everything.

I think about a lot of things when I see him. Cocaine is not one of them. Well, but in to like crazy furniture eating MAGA Republican dieards, you know, he's he's a badass in their world.

He got [ __ ] done. He got [ __ ] done. Evil, nefarious, horrible [ __ ] Exactly.

He had power and he wielded his his stick and he's the reason why Donald Trump is president now. Had Mitch McConnell rallied like a few Republicans in the Senate and and convicted him in the Senate, we wouldn't be in this [ __ ] mess right now. But anyway, the point that I'm making is does anybody call Chuck Schumer cocaine Chuck? What? And nobody's going to call Chuck Schumer cocaine Chuck.

I call him Chuckles. And look, listen, he's had a long career, you know, and people some people like him and so on. To me, the Democratic Party, they just need new blood. And when I saw Jacob Fry say, "Get the [ __ ] out of Minneapolis," I was like, "That is what the Democratic Party needs. They need that right now. They need actually they needed it yesterday and until they get to that point they're sort of fighting this battle with one arm tied behind their back in my view and and they're just going to continue to get run over by Trump and the Republicans and you know going into this campaign cycle they have to be talking about a few things. one is the Supreme Court. And I think if if Mitch McConnell is going to steal seats uh and and and make the Supreme Court MAGA, then Democrats ought to be talking about expanding the Supreme Court

and impeaching a and and they well they should certainly be talking about impeaching, I think. Um

impeaching some justices. Well, and and maybe it might involve like ethics, you know, ethics complaints against Clarence Thomas.

Clarence Thomas. I think I think it's very likely that Donald Trump will push Clarence Thomas out of the way and put in like an Emma Boove or Judge Alien Canada or something obnoxious like that on the Supreme Court. One of the reasons why Donald Trump is doing everything that he's doing right now is they want to preserve that Republican Senate because if Clarence Thomas or Samo leaves the scene and there's a Democratic Senate, the Democrats, I would think, are going to say, "Go [ __ ] yourselves. We're blocking this appointment until the end of Trump's term." But if they can if Republicans can hang on to the Senate, then Trump can keep adding people to the Supreme Court. But my sense of it is is that if a Democrat gets out on the campaign trail and is not talking about national healthcare, abolishing ICE, and expanding the Supreme Court, they're going to have a really tough uh time.

It's going to be some tough sledding out there for those candidates because my sense of it and I had this town hall event at the National Press Club the other day on January 6, you know, celebrating those police officers who defended the capital that day on a day, by the way, when a lot of the national press wasn't really doing much of that. And I set up my town hall, you know, a real president would have these cops over at the White House and put his arm around them and say, "Thank you for what you did for our country and defending democracy."

Um, but you know, to me what you need right now and and what I picked up on at that event is that people are pissed.

And I'm not just talking about Democrats. I'm talking about independents. I'm talking about even some like left-leaning Republicans, centrist Republicans. People are getting they see a woman getting murdered in Minneapolis by the government.

People are starting to lose their [ __ ] And if you are not talking to those emotions and where people are right now, you're just gonna have to it's not going to work out for you.

So I agree with everything you say about that mayor and when he said that and Chuckles and Hawe will say we don't have the majority blah blah. Yeah. But you still have your voice. And I want to say, do you remember during co the when we're all shut down and Trump's talking about like injecting bleach and light and you he's just a complete nut, right?

Yeah. I was there that day. I mean, I it's just crazy. I remember being on the air and and saying, "Do not take medical advice of the president." Yeah. You know, you will hurt yourself. And there were people getting poisoned. But anyway, sorry.

Yeah. And I don't really I I I'm not an Andrew Cuomo fan at all, but he did something smart politically at the time. And every night he had cameras in front of him and he was like the country's therapist.

Yeah. And he wasn't the president. He wasn't the governor of the other 49 states. He was just the governor of New York.

Yeah. But he got on TV every night and I lived in Oklahoma and I watched it every night because I was craving leadership of a sane person. Yeah. and the Democrats have their voice and they refuse to use it. And when you talk about what the Democrats need to campaign on, I think another issue they're going to have to address and the base has moved on this and this is a a a national awakening that is occurring and Apac money is toxic. Any Democrat that is going to be accepting Apac money is going to face uphill battles. And you can look no further than what you know Zoron, he took on faright A-pac money. He took on billionaires. He didn't take a scent of pack money. Completely transparent. And my problem with Chuckles, Hakee, Cy Booker, and a lot of other corporate Democrats is they're sitting there getting their marching orders from Deote and they are this preservationist party where they're preserving the Democratic

party that lost two times to a [ __ ] unhinged, mentally ill [ __ ] Yeah. And they're still trying to preserve that program. And yeah, you when you didn't see

chuckles went to Zoron's uh swearing in. Yeah, inauguration. Hakee didn't. And Hakee, a lot of his voters in his district live in New York City. And this is a big thing. And they the problem with Democrats is they think they're smarter than their base.

And they treat uh the base a little bit condescendingly. Yeah. And I think they're going to be in for a very rude awakening at like women that I know in Oklahoma who for sure have been Republicans the majority of their life

are woke ass no corporate pack money rich women trolling around the city that are serious about this stuff and it's happening nationwide.

No, I I I hear you. And to me, like, okay, Erica Kirk can go off and shoot off fireworks at the Turning Point convention, and yet Hakeem Jeff is worried about going to mom Donny's inauguration. It was just like, I would take it one step further. I would say that the presence of dark money in our politics from all of these super PACs is destroying our democracy.

Agree. And the Citizens United decision that opened up the floodgates on this, I talked to Sheldon White House about this the other day. It is destroying this country. And we have to get to a situation where either there are rules of the road because you know they argued in Citizens United that hey corporate donations that's like free speech. No it's not right. There's no way that a school teacher has the same amount of political influence as Exxon Mobile. That's that's just horseshit. So the whole premise of it is built on a lie.

And and until we get and inject some sanity into our uh campaign financing system in this country, the people are outgunned and outnumbered. The other day, uh, Elon Musk tweeted out that he had dinner with Trump and Melania. Again, remember Elon over the summer saying, "The reason why the Epstein files haven't been released is because Donald Trump is in the Epstein files." Have a nice [ __ ] day. Yeah. And then they went to war with one another. And everybody in the media said, "Oh, look at this. Oh, it's it's a war of words."

And I was like, there's no [ __ ] way this is going to last because Donald Trump needs Elon Musk and Elon Musk needs Donald Trump and Elon Musk will spend. He just got a trillion dollar compensation deal with X or whatever the Tesla, where the [ __ ] it is. He will definitely spend that kind of money to try to lock the system that we have in place right now where Republicans can still run the rest of the country into the ground. And to me, until you get that kind of dark, corrupt money out of our politics, we're in serious trouble.

And that is why and I think a lot of others have made this observation. It is going to take a tsunami, a blue tsunami in the midterms to get the Republicans that message that, hey, you know, the bills are coming due. You can't run the country like a Putin thugcracy anymore. It's just not going to work.

Yeah. And I also think that Elon Musk and Trump hate each other. But I do think they have a shared goal and that is pres preventing the blue tsunami because the blue tsunami means that Congress is going to haul Elon Musk big balls and a bunch of other people's ass in front and say what crimes did you commit? And it's going to get really serious. And the same with Trump because I believe, and this is just my opinion, that Trump and all of the bottom feeding morons surrounding him and Elon Musk and all the bottom feeding clinger honors that surround him, I think they commit crimes every day. And I think to reconcile all of this is going to take hardcore, not integrity Democrats. [ __ ] you, Democrats. [ __ ] you for [ __ ] over our country. We are serious about this. We are prosecuting. We're going to uncover every document, every phone call, everything you did. We will be relentless about it. And that's the

mindset they've got to have because I think the electorate is going from we've got to get him out, but also we want accountability.

There has to be accountability. You have to have a situation where there's accountability. And I talked about this the other day with Fenown uh the former uh MPD police officer who almost got killed on January 6. you know, he he said, and I think it's true, that it's more than just the Dems win back the Congress and the White House. There we have to change this this um John Roberts Supreme Court decision that gave the president of the United States a blank check. Uh no man or woman should be above the law in this country. And Donald Trump sure as [ __ ] not should not be above the law in this country. And I think the Democrats have to talk about it in these terms that listen, um, if we get back in there, and I'm not saying I'm part of the Democratic party, but I'm saying this is the way the Democrats should communicate. They should say when when they're back in there, if you know, if you guys are are going to cling to

this idea that Donald Trump is unaccountable, it's just not going to work. And that means adding seats to the Supreme Court so that that immunity decision can be overturned. And so Donald Trump can be held accountable for his crimes. I mean, right now he's talking about taking over Venezuela for years in order to control the oil industry. And what world is that sane? He's talking about taking over Greenland and blowing up NATO. And what world is that sane? And so unless the Democrats wake up, and my sense of it right now is to to your point earlier, they're just sort of like, you know, nibbling around the edges. That's just not going to get the job done. And the people are going to lead this. I tell people all the time and I do when I I get invited to speak at groups and so on. I say this to folks, I get uh I am much less worried about Trump derangement syndrome, which is what you and I get accused of, I am

about Trump depression syndrome, which is that people get so down in the dumps and they get so defeated that they think that there's no way to fix any of this. And you just can't live like that. You have you have to live in a world where there is hope and that this can get turned around. And Donald Trump should be held accountable for what he's done. Otherwise, how do we get through this? Because it's going to send the message to the next MAGA president. JD V, you think JD I mean Donald Trump can barely stay awake

in the Oval Office in a cabinet meeting. JD Vance is in his early 40s. I know. And is backed by people like Peter Teal. Yeah.

And Elon Musk. And that [ __ ] can go on for another 30 years. You don't He's going to stay the hell he's going to fall asleep in the Oval Office. He's going to work day and night to give this kleptocracy, this oligarchy exactly everything that they want. And so people need to wake up and understand that their government is there, this way of life, as I like to call it on my show, this way of life is being taken away from you right now as we speak, unless you get up and fight.

Yeah. And I just think JD Vance, it's just my personal opinion here, is the biggest political prostitute in the planet. He has changed his opinion, his name, his religion, his eyeliner thickness on a whim at all times.

When he goes out there and says, "We don't have to apologize for being white." Oh my god, that's insane.

What are you doing, man? Like I have you ever I've never even thought of such a thing. That's in other

insanity. Yeah. And I just think that he is he's the future of MAGA. It is a a it is a fascist authoritarian white nationalist MAGA.

It's worse than Trump. It is worse than Trump. It's Trump with staying power. You know, Trump the other day is, you know, he's he's he's asking, "Am I going to go to heaven? Am I going to go to heaven?" Yeah. It must be dawning on him that the sand and Dorothy's hourglass is running out. You know, the way the curtains are closing JD Vance doesn't have to worry about that. This whole crew of guys who are going to try to come in after it, they're they're not worried about that. The American people have to show that movement the door. I'm not talking about Republican presidents want to come in and act like Mitt Romney and and and folks like that.

Everybody can deal with that. Everybody can stomach that. If if Mitt Romney had been president instead of Donald Trump in 2016, you and I probably wouldn't be talking right now cuz you you know, Jen, you'd be down in Oklahoma and join interior design.

You'd be doing that. But the reason why we're all fired up, the reason why I talk about politics in the news the way that I do right now is that I am deeply worried that this is coming to an end. this way of life that you and I grew up with. You know, our young producers who are sitting off camera, they don't they have they don't have

they don't understand what you and I grew up with. I know this beautiful thing that came out of the end of the Cold War and the postw World War II era.

It's a precious thing and it's being taken away from us right now in real time.

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And what's really sad is when you get to my parents, boomers, um you know, they the worry that they have, they should just be enjoying their retirement. My mom and dad just say, "We're just so worried for you guys and for our grandkids and our great grandkids." Like, these people should be living out, you know,

and they can't afford a house. I mean, the average age of a person buying a house now is in their 40s.

Yes. That's a that's a goddamn travesty. It's insane. And so, we've got to you we got to and and listen, I I talked to Heather Cox Richardson about some of this the other day. There people have to look back to our history to understand that there is some reason to hope because there are different movements that come along. This is what I was going to get to earlier. you know, in 2008, you know, when I was out on the campaign trail, you know, uh, the folks I worked with at my old place would say, you know, Hillary Clinton's got this locked up.

Don't worry about this Barack Obama guy. Hillary Clinton's it's going to work out. She's going to be the N. And I would I was out on the campaign trail with Obama

and I would see him in these gymnasiums and and these auditoriums and I'm like looking the way young people respond to him.

Yeah. And I was like, "Guys, this is different. This is something different." Yeah.

And he defeated the Democratic establishment and just roared into the White House and became a political phenomenon in this country. People forget about this. Heather Cox Richardson was explaining that in the late 1800s during the time of Teddy Roosevelt, there was a whole era of progressivism that came along, a whole new era of independent journalism and a new wave of journalism that came along. Eras can change when the people lead that change. And I think that we're on the cusp of that now. if it's not crushed by the powers that be.

I agree. I I just completely agree. All right, let's play Had it or Hit it. Okay.

Oh my god. Welcome to Had It or Hit It. I would hit it. Had it. Had it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day.

All right, Jim Aosta. Had it or Hit It, the Trump Kennedy Center. [ __ ] that [ __ ]

I went over there that day. I grew up in the DC area going to the Kennedy Center and stuff and taking my first dates when I was in my 20s and stuff to the Kennedy Center. I was like, "Oh, I'm hot [ __ ] I'm taking this girl to the Kennedy Center." Damn. Out with him after that.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, it helped. It certainly helped. Dinner in the Kennedy Center helped.

And I rever John F. Kennedy. He's one of my heroes. And um and Bobby Kennedy, not the insane one, but the the brain. No, not that one. And I did this, Sam and I did this on the on the day that it happened. We went over to the Kennedy Center when they were putting his name up there and I did a little report from over there and I said, "I'm reporting from the scene of yet another crime committed by Donald Trump."

Yes. He has vandalized this building and he's a vandal and and his putting he's putting his name all over. It's like he's just whizzing all over the nation's capital and like a like a like a stray dog.

You covered the Obama White House. Were you there when he wore the tan suit? I was.

Okay. Imagine if Obama remember how the Fox their narrative was he's arrogant, he's aloof, he thinks he's a king. Do you remember them saying that about Obama?

I remember that. The fact that there's I guess you can't shame the shameless, but that nobody feels any embarrassment or shame. And then the pictures I haven't been in DC since the aforementioned Christmas party, but is it true? I've seen these images online. these portraits of like Donald's presidential mugsh shot on the building on the government building.

They've got it on the Department of Labor. I call it the Kim Jong-un treatment there on the Department of Labor. It looks insane. And if you're I mean, one reason why we saw it is when they uh when some of these uh characters in DC put up the Trump Epstein statue in front of the capital. We ran we ran down and did a report on that. But off in the distance, you could see the Department of Labor and they had the Kim Jong-un like banner of Donald Trump. It's all batshit crazy. And it makes me think he's just in the throws of this mental breakdown because he knows this is all coming to an end. And so he's just like, "Let me put my name over here. Let me invade this country. Let me grab

those Walter Reed visits. I think something was revealed. Something's going on."

Yeah. But here's just this is this is they found the mark of the devil on this is I'm going to bring up something petty just because I like to be petty and I think it's fun and therapeutic. Um

it's cathartic. It gets Yeah. Let's get it out. But you know the the all of the talk in the MAGA movement about masculinity right?

Yeah. And then their idealized man wears a full face of makeup every single day. And I don't care if people wear makeup, if you're a man, if you're non-binary. I don't give a [ __ ] When we grew up, do you remember how we used to say it's a free country all the time? Like even in Oklahoma, there'd be some redneck and he'd go,

"Well, that guy's dressed like a girl, but I don't know what that is, but at least it's a free country." And

the whole thing was I'm going to mind my own business. You don't hear people saying it's a free country anymore that much. And I just think it's interesting that the idealized alpha male in the MAGA movement wears a full face of makeup

every single day. There's I've only seen one photo with the makeup off and he was at his golf course

and his pants were pulled and hiked like way up. Yeah. And I'll tell you what, you can see the outlines of the

he was out of drag. It was I understand why he wears the makeup. I do because it is an improvement doing this gender affirming care. I support

some of the some of the shades are a little off though, you know. And when he does it on the hands, I say it's all about the blending. You can't, you know, maybe it's really bad at blending here.

He's blending there, too. It's all about the blending. I know this from being a man in in television news for many years.

In person, is it is he really orange? It's really orange. And you know, I I describe it this way when you're shopping when you're a guy shopping for dress shoes and it's sort of like you got uh black, brown, mahogany, and then there's like British tan or English tan. That's the shade that he's putting on his face right now. It's that British tan shade. And it looks really petty and gossipy but

you know, there's all the rumors that he wears the diapers and that sometimes he stinks. Did you ever smell any poop?

I didn't smell anything like Kinzinger says he smells like butt. Okay, that's what that's what Kinzinger says. He's been around. I I have been in close proximity, but maybe it was after a change, you know, after after they put the baby powder on, you know, patted his high knee, you know,

I don't know. But I didn't smell it. Um Okay. You know, there are so many offensive things about him that maybe I didn't pick.

I mean, it's unfortunate. I'm glad you didn't smell it, but I love the juice. We're descend We're descending into

I would like the hot tea. Okay. All right. Sorry. Little kid stuff, but that's okay.

All right. Moving along. you're you're you're encouraging me. You're a bad influence on me because I will engage and continue. And my producer Sam's like on the way here he's like, you know, you really should just go for it. And I'm now I'm in the middle of this thinking, I think I went for it and then some. But anyway,

but you know, this is the thing about podcasting and this is what's so cool about it because

I think the news and journalism is the gold standard. I want to say that it should be. But people now uh because of smartphones,

the way they're receiving news, they want to know more about Jim Aosta personally. They want to know more about Jennifer Welch personally, and they want more of a conversation like you have with a friend where you're talking about something something serious and you're like,

"Oh my god, does makeup look really bad in person?" Because that's the human experience. It's more relatable. And so these conversations, I think, are more digestible for people to stay engaged with politics if we were just really serious the whole time.

No. And the question that you ask is is exactly perfect because people have asked me this. I mean, what's it like when you're with him in person? I've heard he can be charming and all this. I'm like, that's beside the [ __ ] point. You know, he's unleashed ice on this country and they're murdering people.

Um, he is grabbing countries for their oil. Whether he's charming or not charming, I don't give a [ __ ] You know what I mean? Like people might have said that about other, you know, 20th century dictators. It's beside the [ __ ] point.

Yeah. I don't care. I don't care. He's a nice guy. I think the thing about him is he's charming to some people. Not to me. I've always felt like he was a blowhard,

you know, and I'm not turn and people that need superficial flattery. He needs that so much. It's such a It's so offputting for me. It's a turnoff. Totally agree. just those meetings where you know the cabinet meetings where they're going on and on the circle jerk of just

or the tech titans bringing in the gold offerings and everything. It's like dude, you know, haven't

there's never been an advertisement against being a billionaire like the year of 2025, but you have all this [ __ ] you money and you have to go make a participation trophy.

Yeah. and take it to that man who doesn't even have the decency to blend his makeup on his hairline or his hands before he receives your [ __ ] trophy.

It's awful. I know. Well, 2025 was year of bending the knee. I mean, it just clearly was and it's why we're in the the shape that we're in right now.

And I'm sure Moses Mike Grinder Johnson did Johnson did a lot of that. All right, moving on.

He did a lot of bending both knees and and kneeling at the altar of Trump. I mean, not to go off, but yeah.

All right. Had it or hit it? The manosphere. The manosphere. I've definitely had it with that [ __ ] Um, Joe Rogan, how could you have been more wrong about everything? You know what I mean? And if there's one thing that we need to do is we need to get those young guys back. We need and and and some of this is happening naturally anyway. If you see like the the polls for young Americans and that like the wild shift from like

they were like oh they were Trump curious to no [ __ ] this noise. I think that some of these men in the manosphere and there's two in particular that I think and then Kylie what's the guy who's Schultz.

Andrew Schultz. Yeah. See I don't even know some of these ass whites. I don't really know who they are either, but I know that they both had Trump on and they both endorsed Trump and since then there's buyer's remorse.

Yeah. And I I think that in order to really be a good steward of your microphone, if you endorsed him and then you see the way he's treating women, which is just a continuation he has the whole time, but immigrants, the way he's treating the immigrant population, the dehumanizing Yeah. um sending people to be sexually tortured at Secot and an atonement by these people to their audiences that what the they got intoxicated on masculinity. They got intoxicated on we're tough guys. The rules that apply to everybody else don't apply to us. We can skip the we can misogyny the misogyny. I mean the the Tate brothers

putting those guys on a pedestal. Those guys are garbage. Yes, they're disgusting, disgraceful human beings. And that's the thing I get worried about the most with these young guys is that, you know, fascism is is contagious. It is something that, you know, you can get you can catch the bug.

U misogyny is something you can catch that bug and you can become cruelty is something you can catch that bug. And I've described this many ways. Trump wants his cruelty to be your cruelty, his abusiveness to become your abusiveness. And we we just have to we have to show these guys

a different way. And I think some of it is t talking about these things in terms that Trump would talk about these things.

Talk about the things we care about without caring so much about am I going to offend this person or should I not say [ __ ] You know, I've had like relatives and friends. You say [ __ ] a lot. Well, it's it's it's that time.

It's that era. It's that era. We have to say it. You know, I had friends who were like, "You should call your podcast [ __ ] it." You know, [ __ ] it. You know, and I'm like and I thought about it. I was like, but it's like, how do you put that on, you know, Apple podcast? You have to put the asterisk in there or something like that.

I'm going to get I'm going to get throttled. Um, but we are kind of in that moment where we have to say, "Fuck it." And and sort of grab people by their shirt collar because these young ass wipes, like the names you mentioned,

it's almost like they have to touch the hot stove, you know, and have their noses rubbed in it before they wake up. And it's like, "Oh [ __ ] I guess I better care about this stuff."

People get murdered. cool that there is a you know uh recoil from this where people realize men realize that really the most masculine thing is standing up for the most vulnerable.

Yeah. That that is truly the mo the highest form of being an alpha is standing with the marginalized kid that's getting bullied and standing up against the bullies. And that's something that you know look at Disney movies. I feel like it was something that was a part of the American experience, our American experience growing up. And that's something that's been so hard about being alive right now is the villains, how they're celebrated,

how much people are celebrate this depravity and these horrible villains and these just horrible people. And that's been very hard for me to watch.

Yeah. And you know, to some extent, it's a little bit of a self-cleing oven because I think that in in the sense that Donald Trump took us to the to the edge of hell itself. You know, it's like we're not in hell, but we can see it from here. He because he goes so far, he kind of he kind of shows us the light a little bit, too. I hate to put it that way, but like the way he went after Rob Reiner.

Yeah. After Rob Reiner died, he and his wife and you had even people on Fox, you had people even in the Republican party, even in MAGA, saying that this has gone too far. And it it didn't happen overnight. It's not going to happen overnight. The spell is not going to be broken like a Disney movie. But I do think there are these moments that happen little by little. People are say, "Oh, you know what? This is this is

I think they're blowing their wad and and a in a as as much as it's accelerating right now.

Yeah. Um I there is going to be a backfire to it. And if you think about just like

I think there was a huge backfire to Charlie Kirk's funeral and we all saw I unfortunately saw it online him violently get murdered and it was horrible.

Horrible most horrible thing and I oppose gun violence so much. a person who worked with us um he was killed um last October and it just dev devastated me a young black kid that had worked for me for like six years and so gun violence is avoidable and preventable and nobody surrounding Charlie Kirk even talks about that but I digress.

Yeah. So everybody saw that and it was horrible to see. Nobody's really talking about what he did. They just kind of ambiently knew who Charlie Kirk was. Yeah. And then the funeral happens and it's pyro technics Christian nationalist Bible thumping and I was on Hassan [ __ ] show kind of right after this happened and I said

Hassan where I grew up I know evangelicals like I would go to church with them on the weekend and that's their vibe but country club Republicans look down on Bible thumpers like that. Episcopelians and moderate Republicans and

and they put on this huge megaurch funeral and I could, you know, like it just there was kind of a backlash from that. Like, well, this shit's weird. Like, why are they why are there fireworks? Why is all of this talk about, you know, overt religiosity? There's something so um off-putting about it. And I think that's what's happening with a lot of this. And I think there is going to be a blowback from it. But here's your last one.

Yeah. Had it or hit it, the United States of America. Oh boy. And hit it is good, right?

Yeah. Hit it. Hit it is good. I will hit that [ __ ] every day of the week. You're talking if if you know it's like that line from Coming to America. If loving the Lord is wrong, I don't want to be right. You know,

that's such a great movie. And I see this is the other thing that the kids don't know. I feel like I have to

It's such a good introduce them to some of the old Eddie Murphy movies and Arnold Schwarzenegger. My I was raised My dad was a bodybuilder growing up. Really? He was.

And he wanted to be Schwarzenegger and Stallone. Did you pump weights with him growing up? No. Was he like, "Come on, son. Let's pump some weights and do manly stuff."

I was still kind of a [ __ ] I mean, I I tried I you know, I I I tried to be an athlete. It was like, "This is taking a lot of effort. You know, I'd rather be on the school newspaper and and run for, you know, class president or whatever."

Yeah. Um, but you know, my dad, you know, he could take me to a Redskins game growing up and if people were [ __ ] with us on the way to the stadium, he'd be like this and they'd be like, "Whoa." Like my dad, you know, like he was he was

the Cuban. He was the He's the Cuban. He's the Cuban macho. So Cuban with all this, you're just not It's not It's not a good idea. Don't

Nobody's going to [ __ ] with that. Yeah. And I um that's the era I grew up with. And I you know, like the right stuff.

Oh yeah. You know what I mean? Like I just it worked on me. You know, Rocky and Rocky 4 I will break you. And then Rocky comes back and it just I I'm sorry. It works on me,

Adrian. Even though Stallone now it's like he's MAGA. He's kind of maggot. He just looks weird. But

yeah. Um but I still love him. It's okay. I um I still I still believe in it. I don't know. I know it sounds corny and I get goosebumps thinking about like, you know, taking my show on the road and going to Iowa and talking to folks in Iowa and stuff like that. I just, you know, people would say to me all the time, "How can you keep going to those Trump rallies? How can you keep doing that?" You know, they scream at you and they call you names and do all this stuff. And I grew up in a bluecollar family. My dad uh you know, my parents had me when they were very young. My dad worked in grocery stores. My mom worked in restaurants. But, you know, uh I would go to these rallies and I would, you know, I would tell folks who would be like, "Why do you go to these things?

Why do you keep going there?" I would, "These are the people I know. These are the people I grew up with. I grew up on a bar stool in my mom's restaurant talking to these guys." And I still think that there's a way to bring them back. And I know people are like, "What the [ __ ] are you talking about? What are you smoking?" I still think that there's a way. And I think at the end of this, we're just in the middle part of this long story. And yes, it's [ __ ] up that he incited a riot on January 6 and insurrection and so on and he got back into office and all of that is unfair and [ __ ] up. I agree with all of that.

But that doesn't mean we're at the end of the story. You know, the Death Star had to get blown up twice.

It can't mean we're at the end of the story. It can't be. This cannot we cannot lose our country to him.

No, this cannot He cannot be especially this particular guy. Yes. It can't be that particular organ.

Not the casino biff from Back to the Future. Not that bankruptcy con artist. Yeah. Selling grifting Bibles.

Jeffrey Epstein's friend and all his [ __ ] you know. It can't be him with the gold [ __ ] all over the White House.

There's a villain that's going to take him take us out. I want him to be hot. I want him to be muscular like your body dad. Yes. Younger. Like where it's like, you know, he was terrible and he ruined our country, but he sure was hot, you know. or an evil hot lady first president like that could be I could go I'd be like well you know

there's got to be a better it had to end somehow you know but not this [ __ ] agree agree

again I've said too much but no not him I I 100% not the guy who puts orange makeup on his face

yeah and apparently like the who are the [ __ ] you were saying von and those [ __ ] yeah he puts orange [ __ ] on his face

and that's who you endorsed and if you kiss his ass it smells like [ __ ] what the [ __ ] is he Not him. No,

it cannot be. Yeah, but that makes me think maybe it'll be JD Vance, which you know, then that does sort of make sense that it would end that way.

See, I don't think the only way that JD Vance But he's a couch [ __ ] so can't he's a couch [ __ ] The only way JD Vance cannot win a general election.

I agree 100%. He there's just no way he can win. Donald Trump doesn't even like JD Vance. He was a gift from the tech oligarchs. And I will tell you he enjoys pitting Marco Rubio against JD Vance. Knowing him and how he operates and his people, they love this [ __ ] fight, but back and it's a little [ __ ] fight, you know, little L. Is that what it was?

But but the moral of the story is is that it can't happen this way. It only happens this way if you let it happen this way. To the corporate [ __ ] out there and the university presidents and the media titans and so on, it this only happens if you [ __ ] let it happen this way. So don't [ __ ] do it. Everybody that said no and taken him to court has won.

Yes. Everybody that has bent the knee, it will never be enough. You will, we could all sit here right now and say, "Donald Trump is so great. He has a large penis. His makeup looks fantastic. His hair is unbelievable." And we could The whole world could say it in unison and it still wouldn't fix him. He will always be broken. So do not give him an inch. And if you have [ __ ] you money, tell Donald Trump, "Fuck you."

That's right. I mean, it's just I know it it is, you know, it's sort of like the Wizard of Oz. You're just waiting for somebody to throw the bucket of water and I'm melting. I'm melting. Oh, my beautiful world. This was my mom's favorite movie growing up. So, I guess I I go back to it from time to time,

but I I firmly believe and this is where like my European friends were like, "Oh, it's because you guys are Americans and you always think it's a Hollywood ending and you think you're the best and everything." And I want it to be a Hollywood ending. And I do think we're the best. And I do think we can we can do this. I think we can pull this off. It's going to be a little messy. And and it may not be Gavin Newsome. It may not be, you know, the air parents that are floating around on the news, right? Maybe it'll be Jacob Fry. I don't know.

I hope it's somebody new. Maybe it's somebody new who just kind of comes out of nowhere. We weren't We didn't see it coming.

Kind of like Obama. Yeah. Sort of like Donald Trump. We didn't see it coming. Yeah.

But and and maybe it just won't be one person. Maybe it'll be all of us. And I I you know, people could say, "Oh, Jim, you know, that's because you're from this generation that grew up with Star Wars and all that shit." It ain't gonna end that way. Um I I will continue to believe it until I can't believe it anymore. Until there is no more. Um and that's that's that's what I bring to this. I I I refuse to give up. I just won't do it. I want to leave the listener with thatium from Jim Aosta injected in my veins.

We need it. We need it. And we need to remember that none of these corporations are anything without us

and our money. And if they want to [ __ ] on their customers, we'll just start boycotting them.

I canceled my Washington Post. I mean, this is the paper I grew up with. My mom would get it on her doorstep every morning. Read it cover to cover every morning. I canceled that [ __ ] thing. When they came out with the editorial and said it was okay to bulldoze half the White House,

I click cancelled. I canceled it live on my show. I I said, "No, [ __ ] this noise. We have to start standing up. Not just to Trump, but to all of the enablers." And a message has to be sent. This is running out. Which side are you going to be on? Our side or his side?

I agree. And that's the way it goes. All right, listeners. And and and that's the way it was. As Walter Kankai Yes. used to say. Yeah.

Jim Aosta, thank you so much for joining me in person, filling in for pumps on I've had it. I thought you were spectacular.

Was I okay pumps? You were a fabulous pumps. Much smaller tits. I'll work on that. My producers tell me I got to work out more next time. Much bigger tits.

You don't want to be a [ __ ] You want to be a strong guy like your dad. Listener, thank you so much for joining us and we'll see you next Tuesday and Thursday.

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The discussion focuses on the current political climate in Washington, D.C., particularly the resurgence of MAGA influences, as experienced by the speakers during their interactions in the city. They share humorous anecdotes about navigating social settings amidst differing political views while contrasting their experiences with the previous administration and its impact on the atmosphere in…

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