IHIP News: Congressman GOES OFF On Trump And His GESTAPO!! "Abolish ICE, There Is NO Fixing This"

What this episode is about

Congressman Robert Garcia argues for the abolition of ICE, claiming the agency's actions harm communities and undermine trust in local law enforcement. He contends that reform is impossible, advocating instead for a shift towards a safer, more equitable approach to immigration enforcement that prioritizes community trust over punitive measures.

Key takeaways

• ICE left unchecked creates a rift between law enforcement and their communities, fueling distrust and fear.
• Abolishing ICE could redefine 'pro law enforcement'—a surprising twist on the narrative often framed by cable news.
• 1,800 missing people from detention centers is a crisis; accountability for ICE could be our most humane policy.
• Private industry profits from detention misery—watching billions flow while families suffer is a moral failure.
• Congressional courage to act means more than voting; it’s about a moral stance against an agency with a dark past.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Robert Garcia · 13 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Alligator Alcatraz, Congressman Robert Garcia, Ice King, Alex Jeffrey Prey
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Donald Trump, Steven Miller, Maxwell Frost, Alligator Alcatraz
3. 6:00 – 9:00: Donald Trump
4. 9:00 – 12:00: Hakeem Jeffries
5. 15:00 – 18:00: Steven Miller, Alex Jeffrey Prey

Notable quotes from "IHIP News: Congressman GOES OFF On Trump And His GESTAPO!! "Abolish ICE, There Is NO Fixing This""

• All right, welcome to IHIP News. Today I have my favorite congressman, Congressman Robert Garcia, the ranking member on the House Oversight Committee.

  about Congressman Robert Garcia · at 0:00

• This is happening across the country and in detention centers. We know that ICE has now tried to limit oversight b congressional visits even though we've won lawsuits in the courts. Alligator Alcatraz has been a horrific abuse of.

  about Alligator Alcatraz · at 2:46

• Understand including in our caucus and I think the folks on the ground understand is that what Donald Trump is doing with ICE this is not about funding immigration enforcement. He's trying to fund his own paramilitary police force.

  about Donald Trump · at 6:28

• >> Look, a couple things. I want to respond everything you said. Number one, let me start that by saying that Hakeem Jeffre came out today strongly on the…

  about Hakeem Jeffries · at 9:42

• We subpoena on the oversight committee, when we have control of the subpoena on day one, we are going to drag Steven Miller in front of our committee and hold him accountable.…

  about Steven Miller · at 15:35

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Congressman Robert Garcia — Person · Main guest · 1 mention · first at 0:04
  Interview subject arguing for abolishing ICE, increased oversight of detention centers, and accountability for Trump administration officials; also discusses House Democratic strategy and leadership.
• Steven Miller — Person · Referenced political operative (target of oversight/subpoena threats) · 4 mentions · first at 3:49
  Described as a key Trump-aligned figure influencing immigration enforcement; the guest says he would be subpoenaed and held accountable.
• Donald Trump — Person · Referenced political figure (primary antagonist in discussion) · 3 mentions · first at 4:13
  Portrayed as directing/benefiting from ICE expansion and a “paramilitary” domestic force; discussed in context of pardons and authoritarian risk.
• Hakeem Jeffries — Person · Referenced political leader (House Democratic leader discussed/criticized) · 1 mention · first at 9:25
  Central to the segment about Democratic leadership and vote-whipping; host criticizes perceived lack of aggressive opposition while the guest defends Jeffries’ stance on impeachment proceedings.
• Maxwell Frost — Person · Referenced ally/collaborator · 2 mentions · first at 3:13
  Cited as a congressional partner and leader on detention-center oversight; Garcia says they intend to visit “Alligator Alcatraz.”
  So, we have to be very aggressive in oversight. I'm actually been talking a lot to Congressman Maxwell Frost. The two of us actually intend to I hopefully visit…
• Alex Jeffrey Prey — Person · Referenced victim (contextual example) · 2 mentions · first at 2:27
  Named as a person allegedly killed in the events being discussed; referenced alongside video evidence and questions about shooter identity. Identity is unclear from transcript alone and may be a local/private individual rather than a public figure.
  They the second one that shot Alex has not been, suspended or we don't have his identity.
• Renee Mlin Good — Person · Referenced victim (contextual example) · 1 mention · first at 2:29
  Named as a person allegedly killed in the events being discussed; used to underscore urgency and moral stakes. Identity is unclear from transcript alone and may be a local/private individual rather than a public figure.
  That were in it, nobody knows where they are. Do you have any information on that? That alone, before we get to the murders of Renee Good and Alex Prey, the fact that I think…
• Liam (5-year-old child) — Person · Victim of ICE actions · 1 mention
  Represents the impact of ICE policies on children
  Actually happening not just there but across the country as well. He's been a leader in the Congress on that issue. We have to think about for example the young kid…

Concepts & topics

• Ice King — Concept · Core topic · 1 mention · first at 0:39
  Central theme of the episode, discussing the controversial actions and calls for abolishment of ICE.
  Been around forever. This is actually a newer agency when you look at the history of our country. We can do without it and it should be abolished.

Places & events

• Alligator Alcatraz — Place · Setting · 3 mentions · first at 2:20
  Mentioned as a location with alleged human rights abuses and lack of oversight by ICE.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 All right, welcome to IHIP News. Today I have my favorite congressman, Congressman Robert Garcia, the ranking member on the House Oversight Committee. Congressman, should I be abolished? >> 100%. Um, no question. Um, I should be abolished. Christy Nam should be impeached. There is just no reforming an agency that is murdering our own citizens, that is kidnapping children, that is throwing people to the ground and blinding them or causing great harm to people in communities. Uh it look people have to remember that ICE hasn't been around forever. This is actually a newer agency when you look at the history of our country. We can do without it and it should be abolished.

0:44 And what do you say to people that would have the argument like um I forget her name, the senator from Michigan, she said, "I'm pro law enforcement. How do how do we make this argument?" Because to me, I think abolishing ICE is a moderate position. And I even would argue that a moderate position would be prosecute ICE. But two middle Americans that have this, they think, "Oh, we need to be safe. They're terrorized by Fox News all the time. Why don't we need ICE? >> Look, I think actually if you want to be pro law enforcement, you should actually want to abolish ICE. And let me explain why. Right now, what ICE is doing is causing massive distrust with local police officers, local law enforcement on the ground who have worked really hard to regain the trust of their communities. I've talked to local police officer. I was mayor of a city with 800

1:43 cops before I got to Congress just a few years ago. I've talked to those rank and file cops, our local police chiefs. They are horrified by what they're seeing and what ICE is doing. And their concern is the danger that now they're being put in. They're concerned about how folks are going to associate ICE and their tactics with what they're doing. So if we really want to support law enforcement, I would say to my Democratic colleagues, we have to abolish ICE. We we can't say that this is okay or that somehow this is somehow how we are going to act and fund. They don't deserve a penny more.

2:20 >> Okay. So alligator Alcatraz, the people that were in it, nobody knows where they are. Do you have any information on that? That alone, before we get to the murders of Renee Good and Alex Prey, the fact that I think it's 1,800 people are missing. They're not in a database. Do you have any information on that? >> Look, we we don't. And that's what's really scary. And and it's not just what's happening at Alligator Alcatraz. This is happening across the country and in detention centers. We know that ICE has now tried to limit oversight b congressional visits even though we've won lawsuits in the courts. Alligator Alcatraz has been a horrific abuse of human rights. God knows who is making unlimited amounts of money. Billions of dollars are being made on these detention centers by private industry.

3:09 So, we have to be very very aggressive in oversight. I'm actually been talking a lot to Congressman Maxwell Frost. The two of us actually intend to I hopefully visit Alligator Alcatraz soon to alo ensure that people understand what's actually happening not just there but across the country as well. He's been a leader in the Congress on that issue. We have to think about for example the young kid Liam the 5-year-old. We we barely know how he's doing or where he's at. There are children, grandparents, mothers that are being snatched up off the street, taken to detention centers in horrific, inhumane conditions. And Christine Noom is at the top who's directing all all of this chaos. Her and Steven Miller need to both be held directly accountable. And and for all those agents out there that are working at these facilities that uh and some of them might know they're being ordered to

3:59 do the wrong thing, this is a moment of courage because we are not just going to abolish ICE. we are going to prosecute those that have caused harm and those that are doing harm on the American public and the inhumanity of the moment. And so people need to be very careful and remember that Donald Trump is not going to be the president forever. >> Um you speak about courage and I think about the Democratic party right now and I feel like the base of the party has moved in a direction that you're in touch with. I feel like Maxwell Frost is in touch with it. I feel like Democratic leadership is completely crowdsourcing what do we vote on this and don't use the term abolish ICE instead of standing in conviction particularly seven of your colleagues voted to fund ICE and there's this notion that within the ruling class of the Democratic party you have what

4:51 are called rotating villains and these rotating villains fund these you know ICE bills or whatever And after the we all saw the murder execution. First they beat him up like a gang of just violent thugs beat him up when he's trying to help a woman and then we saw him get shot in his back nine times. So obviously that vote has not aged well. So my question for you is, is the Democratic Party right now in the House willing to have a serious conversation where they meet this moment and Hakee whips the votes and we have a 100% resistance against this criminal regime. You mentioned Christy Nome, you mentioned Steven Miller. Both on Donald Trump's speed dial. Steven Miller, by all intents and purposes, appears to be what whom they call Mr. Prime Minister, I'm so disappointed and millions of my listeners are too with the le minority leaders ability to whip the vote on something that is so clear to have moral

5:57 clarity on. >> Look, I think first obviously um the Democrats that voted to fund ice obviously I couldn't disagree more with that vote and I'm glad that some of them have actually come out in the last day or so and have actually said they made a mistake and I think that that's important. But I do believe that the House Democratic Caucus can and we when we must be united one on this effort to impeach Noom and two to ensure that we don't give a single dime more to ICE and Donald Trump's terror machine because I think what what everyone needs to understand including in our caucus and I think the folks on the ground understand is that what Donald Trump is doing with ICE this is not about funding immigration enforcement. He's trying to fund his own paramilitary police force.

6:39 It's a national domestic police force that is only accountable to him. And so we cannot give them another dime. And it's not just about saying no on funding and holding the caucus together and being all in on impeaching no one, which we have to all be on. We must also demand more. We have to part of this has to be demanding no more masks, body cameras on ICE agents, ensuring that they're removed from all of our cities, independent investigations. And so it it's good and it's important for us to say that we're going to abolish ICE, that we're going to fire Christian, but without demand of the Senate and ourselves, we're not going to actually make any progress. And so, look, I agree. We're all angry. I am angry and pissed. Every single Democratic member moving forward has to be united and ensuring that we get rid of this agency

7:28 and that we fire Christine Noah. >> Okay. So, there's kind of conflicting things here though, Congressman. We talk about the one on the one hand not funding it and then on the other hand you mentioned removing masks and putting body cameras on them and I saw this tweet and I thought this really summed it up and it was like conservatives let's kill immigrants, Democrats, let's put body cams on cops when killing people. Here it is right here. And I I think that this is at the heart of the frustration with the Democrats that if we put body cameras or we unmask them that somehow this cancer that has, you know, this is where all the Proud Boys are being employed. This is where the don't tread on me guys now work. That somehow there's some body cam or unmask that fixes this cancer that is this right-wing and I'm going to say it and

8:21 I'm sure they're all going to go bananas terrorist organization. They're terrorizing United States citizens. And I just feel like one year in to this horrible, horrible thing that we're all experiencing right now that Hakeim Jeff should be the most hated man on the right because he's such a badass. Because he is looping votes and he is telling the American people, "I'm fighting for you. I don't care if I have the votes or not. I am here and I am the resistance. Full stop." And we just don't have that. And you can look at the popularity of the Democratic party right now, which is abysmal, which corroborates what I'm saying. And any support that the Democrats have had in elections is simply a um side effect of just how incompetent and horrible these MAGA Republicans are. So I want to ask again, do you think we have the right

9:21 leadership in the House for this moment? I think Speaker Minority Leader Jeff is a good person. I'm not seeing a fearless standing on conviction, standing on business fighter right now because they hated Nancy Pelosi. They hated her. You don't hear anything about Hawim Jeff on the right. Nothing. >> Look, a couple things. I want to respond everything you said. Number one, let me start that by saying that Hakeem Jeffre came out today strongly on the impeachment of Christine Elm to start those proceedings. He has absolutely, in my opinion, united this caucus in incredibly important moment. So, I support Leader Jeff. Now, I I understand the frustration. It should be on all of us as it relates to what you said though, Jennifer, as it relates to to ICE and to meeting the moment on these officers. There's always going to be federal law enforcement in this country.

10:10 There's always going to be federal law enforcement. ICE has to be abolished as an agency, but for all the other federal law enforcement that's going to remain, we cannot also allow them to continue wearing masks and wearing body cams. So, I just want to address that. I think that's and I think that's an important distinction. Yes, ICE has to be abolished, but all other federal law enforce enforcement, particularly under the Trump regime, has to be held accountable, and there needs to be better laws and rules in place. More broadly, I join you in be in being angered at us. Congress has not in many cases met this moment. We haven't been prepared. I think Congress as a whole underestimated Trump and what he's doing to this country. But I also hope that there and I know there are fighters in this Congress. There are fighters in this Congress every single day that are

10:57 pushing back and doing everything that we can to push back against Trump and the regime. And that fact that he wants to stay in power. We should be crystal clear that this man wants to stay in power and the reason why he wants to have this military police force well armed is because we we should expect that he is going to deploy some of these folks even during election time. So all of this is a serious moment and we've got to unify the caucus and move forward. >> Okay. I um want everybody there to know in the opposition party in Congress, we are like cheering for you guys. We want the fight. I I'm the biggest uh critic of Hakee right now, but if he started whipping votes and he started showing intense um loyalty to the electorate and not to donors and um intense loyalty to winners and the Democratic party like Zoran Mdani, all of the base is going to unite behind

12:02 him. But it just it it feels like such a disjointed resistance. And we have a saying in Oklahoma, there ain't no time like the present. And I'm not here to if leadership starts pivoting and resisting every single step of the way. And instead of letting the donors be beholden to him, he tells the donors, "I'm not answering to you. I'm going to get my people, my entire Democratic base to boycott your company. We're That's how bad we're going to flip the script.

12:34 That's how bad we're not screwing around right now. That's the kind of intensity that is people are dying for. I mean, I I know that one thing that we share that we all have in common is the horrors of watching our government commit suicide every single day as a functioning democracy. But there is there there is a disjointed approach to the resistance. And so my question is in saying all of that, do you have after this horrific, senseless, unnecessary um murder of Alex and Renee, uh a good feeling that the Democrats are going to start resisting on every step of the way in the House?

13:25 I I I think there's no there's no choice. I mean, I think that the Congress has to there's no other way of moving forward. And I think what I've been encouraging um not just our leadership but or our own oversight committee and the rank and file is one thing that's very important in this moment is as we build this next agenda, as we move towards elections, as we move to next year, what we cannot do is forget about holding these people accountable. It's not just about moving forward. We cannot move forward without ensuring that every single person in this country and the history books understand that these people are criminals. They need to be held in contempt. They need to be put to trial.

14:03 They need to be dragged in front of committees and in Congress because we cannot allow the next generation to think that this moment wasn't as serious and as as as led by such evil people as it is right now. And so, yes, I do believe that Democrats in the caucus have to have no choice but to move forward with intensity and fire and unity because that's what not not just our voters and the country is demanding. That's what our families I'm I'm talking to to my uncles and grandparents and folks that are like, "What the [ __ ] are you doing? You guys should be out there chaining yourselves to the White House." Like, I I mean, I I'm hearing it every single day. And so I I agree with you and I I am just as angry as the base and our voters and I think there is a new generation of Democrats that are pushing as hard as we can and helping move our

14:52 caucus in that direction and we're going to do it every single day. >> What if Trump pardons her Christine and pardons the shooters? Like, you know, we're kind of in unprecedented times here where he's giving out pardons, you know, like popsicles to anybody who wants them. What What if he does that immediately? >> Look, he can pardon whoever he wants, but at the end of the day, every single one of these folks that have caused harm, we're going to ensure that they are held accountable to the public and that they meet justice. When we talk about someone like Steven Miller, who for me he will be the first person that we subpoena on the oversight committee, when we have control of the subpoena on day one, we are going to drag Steven Miller in front of our committee and hold him accountable. Not just through the committee in Congress, but through

15:47 the courts. None of these people are going to should be allowed to just get away with what they're doing. And that includes Christine Noom, that includes Steven Miller, that includes Tom Holman, that includes RFK Jr. and all these folks that are damaging and hurting our country. >> Okay. What about the um uh shooters? They they the second one that shot um Alex has not been, you know, suspended or we don't have his identity. what is going to happen as far as allowing local police and state governments to investigate these crimes that are now, you know, on video that the whole country has seen. Well, and that's why I said earlier that other local law enforcement are horrified at these tactics because in any other police department in America and any major city that that officer that would have been involved with an officer involved shooting would have been

16:40 immediately pulled out and put and essentially as it's being reviewed that officer would not be allowed to be back on the job. And so everyone including law enforcement are horrified at the actions of ICE. the fact that Stephen Miller immediately went to domestic terrorism on on these protesters and and the folks that are actually trying to do good in protesting in a way that's generally been pretty peaceful. And so, no, none of these folks should be pardoned. And again, these individuals, whether they're ICE agents, the people doing the direct the leadership of ICE and all these organizations, they they've got to be held accountable. We just can't move on. And even a pardon, there are other ways. A federal pardon is not going to stop the state courts.

17:22 It's not going to stop state attorneys general and it's certainly not not going to stop the lawsuits of families in both civil and state courts. And so a federal pardon is not going to stop justice in this case. >> Yeah. All right, Congressman Garcia, please send all of my best wishes to all of the members of the Democratic party, especially minority leader Hakee Jeff, and tell him I'm critical of him because I expect the most of our opposition party and it's healthy. It's healthy to criticize within our own party and not be a cult. So, please keep telling everybody at work and what a place to work these days that the the masses the masses of the American population look at the numbers are behind you guys. And we want I want every mfer on in the United States of America to know your names individually because that's how hard you're giving it to them. and and I

18:19 I want you to we have to flip the script and control the airwaves. Thank you so very much. Keep fighting the good fight. Thank you for all the work you do for the Epstein victims. You really are an exemplary leader for us at this time. >> No, I think we need all of you guys. Just keep keep the fight. Keep the pressure. Let's stay on the ground. So stay safe. Thanks.

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "IHIP News: Congressman GOES OFF On Trump And His GESTAPO!! "Abolish ICE, There Is NO Fixing This""?

Robert Garcia.

What is "IHIP News: Congressman GOES OFF On Trump And His GESTAPO!! "Abolish ICE, There Is NO Fixing This"" about?

Congressman Robert Garcia argues for the abolition of ICE, claiming the agency's actions harm communities and undermine trust in local law enforcement. He contends that reform is impossible, advocating instead for a shift towards a safer, more equitable approach to immigration enforcement that prioritizes community trust over punitive measures.

What is mentioned in this I've Had It episode?

10 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Congressman Robert Garcia, Ice King, Steven Miller, Donald Trump, Alligator Alcatraz, Hakeem Jeffries. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "IHIP News: Congressman GOES OFF On Trump And His GESTAPO!! "Abolish ICE, There Is NO Fixing This""?

The episode runs 19 min; the transcript is about 3,282 words in 23 timestamped sections.

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