IHIP News: Moses Johnson and JD Vance GETS SLAMMED By THE POPE in Public TAKEDOWN!

What this episode is about

The discussion centers around Pope Leo's condemnation of U.S. immigration policies and the treatment of migrants, contrasting it with the views of politicians like Moses Johnson who defend these policies using religious justifications. The dialogue highlights the tension between advocacy for humane treatment of immigrants and the use of scripture to uphold strict immigration controls, emphasizing issues of dehumanization and the role of faith in political discourse.

Key takeaways

• When the first American pope critiques deportation, we see faith confronting politics like never before.
• Scripture is often weaponized, but real biblical hospitality welcomes, rather than walls immigrants—missed by many politicians.
• The irony: Mike Johnson believes in biblical borders yet likely 'assimilated' into a heterosexual culture himself. Hypocrisy alert!
• Christian nationalism isn’t new, but its power in politics now? A dangerous brand of governance masquerading as faith.
• In a land built on separation of church and state, the rise of religious rhetoric in politics feels like a betrayal.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Jennifer (Guest) · 11 min speaking
• Pumps (Guest) · 7 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Dr. Jeff Leo, Moses Mike Johnson
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Christian nationalism, Moses Mike Johnson
3. 6:00 – 9:00: Christian nationalism
4. 9:00 – 12:00: Evangelical Christianity
5. 15:00 – 17:59: KKK

Notable quotes from "IHIP News: Moses Johnson and JD Vance GETS SLAMMED By THE POPE in Public TAKEDOWN!"

• Asylum and other reasons. They are they demean them and dehumanize them. This has caused the first American pope to come out against the United States government. And here we…

  about Dr. Jeff Leo · at 0:14

• He furthermore takes positions to demonize the native population of Oklahoma. So this is not new. Moses Mike Grinder Johnson doing this is not new.

  about Moses Mike Johnson · at 3:32

• His standing there saying that as the speaker of the house shows you how serious Christian nationalists are because it's not new.

  about Christian nationalism · at 4:28

• Intimacy, rape, and sexual abuse. They need to know about those things. In evangelical Christian homes, it's just you need to be pure for God. You need to be a virgin. So then whenever something happens, they get raped at their church.

  about Evangelical Christianity · at 12:19

• Just played this. They don't have any issue with the KKK. Hook them up to True Serum of Polygraph. These white Americans that listen to this [ __ ] they have zero issue with…

  about KKK · at 17:24

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Moses Mike Johnson — Person · Primary referenced political figure (criticized) · 2 mentions · first at 0:50
  Discussed as a prominent Christian-nationalist-aligned politician (Speaker of the House) whose scriptural defense of strict immigration enforcement is contrasted with the Pope's pro-migrant stance.
• Dr. Jeff Leo — Person · Referenced religious leader (moral counterpoint) · 2 mentions · first at 0:36
  Presented as the Pope criticizing U.S. mass deportation policy using Christian scripture (Matthew 25:35), serving as a foil to Mike Johnson's biblical justification for borders and enforcement.
• Kevin Stitt — Person · Referenced politician (example of religiosity in governance) · 2 mentions
  Used as an example of overt religiosity by an elected official—cited for dedicating Oklahoma to Jesus and for policies the speakers characterize as harmful and marginalizing.
• Joel Osteen — Person · Referenced example of megachurch pastor · 1 mention
  Mentioned as a recognizable figure representing 'feel-good' megachurch culture, used to illustrate the speakers' critique of evangelical/megachurch dynamics.
  It is really bad. But I want you all to know that like there are obviously the Joel Olsteins. It's clear, but there are these feel-good pre repackaged Christian churches where…

Concepts & topics

• Christian nationalism — Concept · Core topic · 2 mentions · first at 4:24
  Central theme of the episode, discussing the influence and dangers of Christian nationalism in American politics and society.
• Evangelical Christianity — Concept · Key argument · 2 mentions · first at 10:06
  Discussed as a driving force behind Christian nationalism and its impact on American society and politics.
• KKK — Concept · Referenced historical context · 1 mention · first at 17:15
  Mentioned as a historical parallel to current Christian nationalist movements, highlighting continuity in white supremacist ideologies.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 The human rights violations by Trump and his government are every single day when it comes to ICE. We've seen it with Pete Hath. It's everywhere all the time. But particularly the way they speak about immigrants that come to this country for asylum and other reasons. They are they demean them and dehumanize them. This has caused the first American pope to come out against the United States government. And here we have the church cannot stay silent before injustice toward migrants. You stand with me and I stand with you. That's from the first American pope, Pope Leo.

0:42 I'm not a huge fan of the pope, but he does lead the Catholic Church. And you have the white nationalist Christians, the evangelicals, none other than Moses Mike Johnson who honestly thinks that he is handchen by God and God told him he was Moses. And he disagrees with the Pope because he is the leader of protecting and not holding accountable people that dehumanize, marginalize, and murder people and treat them so inhumanely. send them to [ __ ] concentration camps. He rubber stamps all of that. So when asked about it, here is his response to the Pope.

1:24 Leo, Pope Leo has cited Matthew 25:35 to critique Donald Trump's mass deportation agenda. How would you respond to Pope Leo in scripture?

1:35 So you want me to give you a theological uh dissertation? All right. I tell you what, I'll post it on my website later today, but let me give you a quick summary. uh borders and walls are biblical from the Old Testament to the New. God has uh

1:46 why does he have to sit there? First of all, he did give us the dissertation on his website. I will say that. But, you know, borders are biblical. It's [ __ ] 2,000 years old. It does not apply. Not everybody believes in this document. this to make an excuse that a religious doctrine should be part of the government. Isn't that why we had the separation of church and state? Isn't that why the United States was founded, not making religion the government? Isn't that why they left England? Am I crazy?

2:24 It's exactly why they did. And the founders were mainly deists, which is a distinction from Christians. And um a lot of them were not this breed of Christian. These were big thinkers these men. But we have known for a very long time since the 80s at least that there is a desire a rightward Christian nationalist movement funding the Supreme Court funding the Republican party funding the heritage foundation funding the federalist society that they want to dismantle it. So you have to have people Christian signal in government and that's what he does. This is not new. We have politicians in Oklahoma that talk adnauseium about their overt religiosity. The governor of Oklahoma, Kevin Stid, after he won a second term, got on camera and said, "I dedicate every square inch of this state to Jesus Christ." Then he proceeds to hammer down policies that cause human suffering, exacerbate poverty, and exacerbate um

3:25 the marginalization of groups. If you're not in the oil and gas company in Oklahoma, Kevin Stit will not favor you. He furthermore takes positions to demonize the native population of Oklahoma. So this is not new. Moses Mike Grinder Johnson doing this is not new. What is new for me is seeing a Catholic church stand up against a pedophile ring. So that's growth. That's growth on a global scale in my opinion. But Moses Mike Grinder Johnson is every [ __ ] Oklahoma politician I've ever heard talk long before Trump descended on the escalator and the Republican party intentionally intentionally went into churches, used abortion, used gay marriage. Now they've moved on to trans people. They have to keep increasing the hit, the hit, the hit. So it's just what's crazy is that he's the speaker of the house. That's how their ambitions, how successful their diabolical ambitions of making this country a Christian nationalist

4:26 regime. His standing there saying that as the speaker of the house shows you how serious Christian nationalists are because it's not new.

4:35 Yeah, you're right. Okay, continue on with the video. Couple more things to um set up our civil societies and have separate nations. Immigration is not something that's frowned upon in scripture. In fact, it's it's welcome. We're to we're going to welcome the sojourer and and love our neighbor as oursel. But what's also important in the Bible is that assimilation is expected and anticipated and proper. When someone comes into your country, comes into your nation, they do not

5:00 Here's the thing I just want to jump in to say. I would imagine considering that he's an alleged heterosexual that he's assimilated into heterosexual society. This man says he believes that homosexuality is a choice. By admitting that, you're owning that you had to choose something that wasn't natural to you. So, this man speaking about assimilation is on point to me because he's had to assimilate into a heterosexual culture. He's had to assimilate into that whole world. I mean, this Bible thumping from the federal government is more than I can take. I've had to live around hypocritical Bible thumpers my entire life. And it's why the minute my youngest son graduated from high school, I tucked and rolled out of the state.

5:47 What he's doing and what he's sounding like is in all of the Bible belt states. And you cannot even distinguish what a preacher says and what a politician says,

5:56 right? Because these people are insane. This is iron age magical thinking. And for those of you that are watching that have a spirituality or have a normal sense of religion, I'm not talking about you. right-wing white Christian nationalism is a cult. These people are cruel. These people actively dehumanize people. These people are all about the accumulation of wealth wealth which Jesus was exclusively against. And it always amazes me that as an atheist, every time I talk to some evangelical Christian, how little they know about their faith, how little they know about the teachings of Jesus Christ. It's shocking to me, but it is time and time and time again throughout my 50 years on earth that every time I have a conversation with some wound up nut job Christian, how little they know about their faith. It's just it's mindboggling.

6:56 Well, because it's a pick and choose. I want to pick what I want to apply to me and then I'm going to pick what I want to apply to other people. And because I am chosen and and better than everybody, I get to do that. I I'm entitled to do that. Here's what kills me in this. He sits there and he says, because as we've talked about and you've pointed out so eloquently, Jesus was empathetic. Jesus wanted to help the poor, feed the sick, all the things, or feed the poor, help the sick, sorry, whatever. But he says, you know, we're taught that we need to be welcoming and treat our neighbor right, but and there's always a butt with these people, but I can justify my actions and I don't have to behave that way. And then I won't bore you with the rest of the video, but he does go on and I'll li put it here, but it's long and it's stupid. But basically what Mike Johnson says is in his post when he

7:54 answers this question in response to the Pope, basically he says, "Yes, we're supposed to be kind. Yes, we're supposed to be welcoming. Yes, we're supposed to be treat our neighbor as ourselves. But our government needs to protect us and keep us in. So we have to keep other people out. So, it's okay that we treat people like [ __ ] And it's okay that we put people in concentration camps because we have to protect us. We're better. We're more important. And that hit home with me because that how is how I was indoctrinated and how for decades of my life, I was able to say that problem I don't give a [ __ ] about because it doesn't apply to me. I'm I I'm better. I'm entitled to have whatever I want and and they're not me and they're not Christian so I don't have to give them that. And so it's a complete lack of empathy and it's a complete lack of doing what it is he said that treating somebody as yourself.

8:58 And it's just it's gross. And it just really struck a chord with me how easily he can sit there and say, "Oh yeah, this is how you're supposed to treat somebody, but you don't have to if they're coming into your country and our government has to protect our country." I mean, it's just the ability to dehumanize people. I was able to do it because I was indoctrinated to do it. But to see it on this scale and like you said, not being able to see the difference between a pastor and the house, the speaker of the house, that's pretty [ __ ] telling that we are in a complete downward spiral led by all these Christian nationalists.

9:37 Yeah. I mean, it it's so nauseating to me that a politician speaking like that is not disqualifying in Europe. somebody who were speaking that overtly that kind of, you know, this is a religious psychosis that this man has. It's very important that we understand that Moses Mike Grinder Johnson is in a state of religious psychosis. For him to say he hears God's voice and God is talking to him, this is not normal. This is a crazy person. But what bothers me so much about evangelical Christians is their inability to feel, to let their better impulses break through. It is their default setting is cruelty. Their default setting is I don't care. And I was raised in an atheist home and my default setting was to care for people, to have empathy for people. My mother and I had a trans hairdresser in the 1980s and my mother showed this person nothing but kindness and grace. And when I had questions

10:39 like, "What happened there? What's going on?" Jennifer, all you need to know is nobody in their right mind would choose this in the middle of the Bible belt because these people are the meanest, most cruel, judgmental people on the planet. And she was right, my mother, every single time. And I don't know if people on the coast or people abroad understand the cruelty that is woven into this sect, this cult of evangelical, white evangelical Christianity and the megaurches. And there are degrees of it where some of them are just real hateful on the pulpit. But the most insidious ones are this feel-good mega church with the coffee shop and the bookstore. And they teach this Christian narcissism where you only care you're not doing well.

11:23 You're not doing good enough. You're not worthy. You're not worthy. You're not worthy. You're not worthy. So they beat you down so much that then you're incapable of feeling empathy for anybody else because all you have to focus on is your personal relationship. And so many of my friends fell prey to all of this growing up. You fell prey to it. And the deprogramming and the shame and the horrors that come out of it. I it it is it is really really bad. But I want you all to know that like there are obviously the Joel Olsteins. It's clear, you know, but there are these feel-good pre repackaged Christian churches where on the surface it's like, oh, we're about kindness, but underneath that it's homophobia.

12:07 It is uh this purity culture. And the problem with teaching purity culture, and this is really important that people understand for women, you have to teach kids about consent, intimacy, rape, and sexual abuse. They need to know about those things. In evangelical Christian homes, it's just you need to be pure for God. You need to be a virgin. So then whenever something happens, they get raped at their church camp. They feel shame and all of this stuff goes under reportported because all of these things have been grotesqually lumped together. Abstinence only keeps women less safe. not uh teaching our youth as they get hormones about consent leaves people less safe, particularly women. But that's what this administration wants. And I'm not saying that Moses Mike Grinder Johnson is interested in women. I'm just saying that he made a choice to be interested in women. He chose that, you know. So

13:09 Moses might grinder Johnson in taking his daughter to this purity ball, which we've covered before, and only teaching her that this this her sexuality is his, and then he gives it to a man, he did nothing short to put his daughter in danger and [ __ ] her up for the rest of her life with intimacy issues, sexual shame, and think about that. Think about of all the things you could teach your kid that you're not going to teach them about consent and to embrace their body and how to share it with others in a consensual way. Uh you're not going to teach them how to um see the immigrant in the classroom that might have an accent and go over and befriend them first and make sure everybody's kind to them. A lot of these crazy Christian schools, their number one goal, number one goal, make parents sign contracts for it, you guys, is only straight marriage. Institutionalized homophobia.

14:13 And it is everywhere. And these people get tax write offs for it. These churches get tax write-offs for it. Can you imagine that? That's their number one goal. Make sure we bully and demean gay people institutionally. This is a really [ __ ] up, sadistic cult. And they're so ambitious,

14:33 right? They have somebody as speaker of the house. That's how ambitious they are with this [ __ ] I mean, it's really scary. It It is scary. And you're right about all that because I I that's my lived experience as you well know. All right. And then just to put an exclamation point on what Jennifer said between the speaker of the house is a is a preacher versus a Christian nationalist preacher. This is uh Christian nationalist Dale Partridge regarding uh immigration.

15:02 70 million immigrants flooded in. 61 million of those were non-European nations and hardly any of them assimilated into American culture. Uh they destroyed our nation literally. Uh we must deport all illegals. We must remigrate millions of people. Um, and if you're not a Christian and you're not fully assimilated, I'm talking language, culture, and values, get out of America.

15:33 Is that not [ __ ] crazy? It's like white supremacist [ __ ] But, but Pumps, your family believes that. If you went home and you put them on the phone at the dining room table and said, "What do you guys think of this?" They would say, "Absolutely. Praise Jesus. God is good."

15:47 That's I mean, this is not happening in a vacuum. This is supported by millions of Americans in middle America. And here's the thing,

15:58 middle America, where where Pumps and I grew up, it's still very segregated. You have white people that live in cookie cutter neighborhoods with zero culture, zero architecture, zero diversity, zero. And so their culture and their identity becomes being an American. I'm going to wrap myself up in the flag. and then their social life is the church. Both of these things uh feed tribalism exclusively and feed ethnosentrism exclusively. And um when you're born and you're told you're not good enough, you need to curry favor with God. You need to do this. You need all this Christian narcissism, it you start feeling so bad about yourself and hurt people hurt. So this regime hurting all of these other people is because they have been religiously abused and it's something that as a country we really have to reconcile and here's the thing Europe got kind of the thinkers they escaped from England we

17:01 got all the crazy Christians all the crazy Christians are here America has a crazy Christian problem without the crazy Christian problem we don't have all this fascism Period. And we have never done anything about the crazy Christian problem. Crazy Christian problem dates back to the KKK. These people that are supporting Moses Mike and that preacher that pumps Pumps just played this. They don't have any issue with the KKK. Hook them up to True Serum of Polygraph. These white Americans that listen to this [ __ ] they have zero issue with the KKK. No, you're spot [ __ ] on. All right, I know that was uplifting. All right, like like this video and subscribe to our channel and we'll be back with more news.

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "IHIP News: Moses Johnson and JD Vance GETS SLAMMED By THE POPE in Public TAKEDOWN!"?

Jennifer (Guest), Pumps (Guest).

What is "IHIP News: Moses Johnson and JD Vance GETS SLAMMED By THE POPE in Public TAKEDOWN!" about?

The discussion centers around Pope Leo's condemnation of U.S. immigration policies and the treatment of migrants, contrasting it with the views of politicians like Moses Johnson who defend these policies using religious justifications. The dialogue highlights the tension between advocacy for humane treatment of immigrants and the use of scripture to uphold strict immigration controls,…

What is mentioned in this I've Had It episode?

7 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Moses Mike Johnson, Christian nationalism, Evangelical Christianity, Dr. Jeff Leo, KKK, Kevin Stitt. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "IHIP News: Moses Johnson and JD Vance GETS SLAMMED By THE POPE in Public TAKEDOWN!"?

The episode runs 18 min; the transcript is about 2,892 words in 27 timestamped sections.

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