Uncertainty The Haus Down - (w_ Jared Frieder)

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 10:00: Jared Frieder, Three Months, Amy Landecker, Judy Greer
2. 10:00 – 20:00: Three Months, Fire Island, Ari Matthew
3. 20:00 – 30:00: Troye Sivan, Ari Matthew, Three Months
4. 30:00 – 40:00: Ari Matthew, Claude Shannon, Judy Greer
5. 40:00 – 50:00: Ari Matthew, Claude Shannon, Jared Frieder, Katrina
6. 50:00 – 1:00:00: Ari Matthew
7. 1:10:00 – 1:20:00: Three Months, Amy Landecker, Brianne Chu, Claude Shannon
8. 1:20:00 – 1:30:00: Three Months, Lady Gaga, Ari Matthew
9. 1:30:00 – 1:34:05: Ari Matthew, Three Months

Notable quotes from "Uncertainty The Haus Down - (w_ Jared Frieder)"

• Is the setting miami specifically for the film three months oh which stars get this troye sivan get this judy greer get this ellen burstin.

  about Three Months · at 5:51

• Respect i wonder if it'll be in his wikipedia ooh jared frieder dated matt rogers there is a there is like a listicle thing you know one of those bad listicles yeah their net worth is seven hundred thousand dollars i'm like where's that.

  about Jared Frieder · at 8:40

• And it's loosely based on my homosexual life and it's about just in case you guys didn't know matthew write that down okay i remember okay yeah we'll get to that don't be mean to me.

  about Ari Matthew · at 11:10

• Of like queer movies which i don't think people understand like how rare and hard it is i mean we have amazing fire island coming out there's bros there's three months there…

  about Fire Island · at 14:51

• During the day before we had to shut down for seven years yeah so it was like i told shannon who's my dp who is number one obsessed with matt thought he was the most gorgeous…

  about Claude Shannon · at 37:04

• Smoking weed and getting high with matthew and eating donuts that his mom katrina would send we gained a lot we gained a lot of weight basically we were like just binging…

  about Katrina · at 42:29

• Go on there you're gonna be able to watch three months written and directed by jared freeder and starring troye sivan ellen burstin louis gossett jr i mean judy greer amy landecker who's also fantastic we haven't spent the time but.

  about Jared Freeder · at 1:19:38

• Movie three months being set in summer 2011 and there's not one mention of the album born this way by lady gaga dominating the cultural conversation at the time in a room full of queer people discussing their community why is lady.

  about Lady Gaga · at 1:22:43

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Ari Matthew — Person · 7 mentions · first at 11:15
• Caleb — Person · 6 mentions
• Troye Sivan — Person · 4 mentions · first at 5:59
  Miami specifically for the film three months oh which stars get this troye sivan get this judy greer get this ellen burstin wow get this.
• Dave Troy — Person · 4 mentions
• Judy Greer — Person · 3 mentions · first at 6:02
  Get this troye sivan get this judy greer get this ellen burstin wow get this roy gossett jr get this louis gossett jr.
• Jared Frieder — Person · 3 mentions · first at 8:43
• Claude Shannon — Person · 3 mentions · first at 37:08
• Louis V. Gerstner, Jr. — Person · 2 mentions · first at 6:11
  Wow get this roy gossett jr get this louis gossett jr get this louis gossett jr amazing and get this vivec cholera get this brienne chew.
• Amy Landecker — Person · 2 mentions · first at 6:27
  Vivec cholera get this brienne chew and a host of florida locals amy landecker the best this movie is star-studded and here's the thing about movies it really can only be performed there's an if there's a script.
• Lady Gaga — Person · 2 mentions · first at 1:22:46
• Ellen Burstyn — Person · 2 mentions
• Katrina — Person · 1 mention · first at 42:33
• Jared Freeder — Person · 1 mention · first at 1:19:40
• Brianne Chu — Person · 1 mention · first at 1:19:51
  Judy greer amy landecker who's also fantastic we haven't spent the time but like unreal so great brianne chu and vivek calra what an amazing opportunity for you to watch a…
• Anthony Lynn — Person · 1 mention
• Dara — Person · 1 mention
• Erica Jane — Person · 1 mention
• Jared Fried — Person · 1 mention
• Joel Kim Booster — Person · 1 mention
• Stephanie Germanotta — Person · 1 mention
• Virginia Woolf — Person · 1 mention
• Vivek Kalra — Person · 1 mention

Books & papers

• Three Months — Book · 13 mentions · first at 5:55
• My Cousin Vinny — Book · 5 mentions

Companies & orgs

• Fire Island — Company · 3 mentions · first at 14:55

Concepts & topics

• Oscar — Concept · 1 mention

Full transcript with timestamps

0:12 raising a glass so raise a class if you are wrong all the right ways all the right ways which is i think one of the best songs of all time we should be singing this in irish pubs all over the world at every celebration they should be saying so raise your glass if you are wrong in all the right ways which is a song for all the freaks the [ __ ] the weirdos the outcasts but at all on the other side of the track every space bar mitzvahs bat mitzvahs they mitzvahs i'm sorry we have to give a nod to and just like that graduations weddings funerals can i say it's interesting that you sort of went to the mitzvah of it all yes because oh i didn't mean to well no you did i i gotta say as someone who has a jewish family not my own but a your sister is married to a jewish man and now it's a jewish family uh-huh and now we said it and i will probably have to spend at least two million dollars on my niece's bot

1:13 mitzvah because can i say those gorgeous girls are gonna have insane batman as i know it i really think i hope that their obsession for minnie mouse carries on into are they obsessed with minnie mouse ellie is obsessed but they're both sophie's obsessed with minnie mouse oh my gosh she's one of the most beautiful women one of the most beautiful women in the world and sophie sophie sees minnie mouse any time she sees minnie mouse he goes me mouse you would [ __ ] melt at the site because you know who i was obsessed with minnie daisy no neither of the girls donald duck i was a donald boy i like simp for donald donald and kingdom whimpering my girl is not a kingdom hearts girl um donald duck was your magic user so goofy goofy was your tank and he took the damage and he fought with the shield it was so cute but donald fought with stabs and donald could cast spells and then anytime you were low on health

2:12 my kingdom hearts readers published this to know you'd hear donald going and you you knew you were safe when donald would cure you and go sorry because that's your character's name was sora and then you donald would go i i didn't know you had a donald or donald trump when i was a daughter it's bonuses if you were like if you were fighting with other heroes in other worlds she'd be like he'd be like but you can't fight with bell but he's like who knew i could do that matt you've always had you've always had donald donald the house down i think the three of us are all donald in this room i don't know you don't think i think three of us are all a little anxious like oh you you thinks you feel this way i think i think you're a daffy and then me and the guests are donald's you think i'm daffy i think you're a doctor why do you insult me so that's not an insult daffy duck can have it he's carrying is carrying

3:06 if you are if you have daffy in you you are carrying that's really culture number 17. if you have daffy in you you are carrying the reason i said it was iconic that you brought up the bar bot mitzvah of it all is because you know i know the guests quite well um our guest today on the episode and i actually can reveal now that their bar mitzvah theme was live from new york it's jared's night which is interesting because it crosses over sort of with your culture absolutely and he it's only it only was that because he wanted to have a wicked themed bar mitzvah but it was deemed too gay and so why not scope out wicked to broadway and then scope out broadway too live from new york so i guess like it's like so in in a sense really yeah it in having live from new york it's jared's night there probably was like a wicked table was there a wicked table don't verbally confirm great okay because you don't exist yet in the

4:02 podcast space we haven't brought you in i don't make them i and this is my thing i think we are coming out of a generation i think i think the kids now god bless them are like being friends with their fellow queer like classmates absolutely would i have been invited to that i wonder you know like if we'd all gone to the same school we talk often you and i and also the guest and i i don't know if you guys have had this conversation i don't see what we during a high school period i think i would have been friends with both of you i'm convinced and this is not i don't think this is like a character flaw in either of us i think we would have both like been too intimidated by the other and been like i'm gonna keep my distance that's matt rogers i don't know what his deal is i don't know i haven't really you know i think we would have been friends at school and we would have even done like because you

4:55 and i like it we did not hit it off right away when we met in college that's because you were noxious to me and this was this was actually the way our relationship started was boeing that was a very big bully to me just told the story and i was auditioning for bright

5:18 i heard you're auditioning okay i was like yeah fast forward i was mean noxious whatever terrible and then he and i bonded over roman's revenge and or super base coming on at a party when back when those were two deep cuts off of pink friday there you go and it's been smooth sailing ever since not a damn hitch speaking of sailing um florida florida it's a news that florida isn't always in the it's going to be really in the news starting wednesday today today starting today florida is actually majorly in the news because florida is the setting miami specifically for the film three months oh which stars get this troye sivan get this judy greer get this ellen burstin wow get this roy gossett jr get this louis gossett jr get this louis gossett jr amazing and get this vivec cholera get this brienne chew and a host of florida locals amy landecker the best this movie is star-studded and here's

6:33 the thing about movies it really can only be performed there's an if there's a script so there has to at the very beginning of the process maybe this is like a peek behind the curtain for everyone out there because how movies get made movie magic movie this is movie magic first you need a script first you need a script germ of an idea that gets put on the page any new director absolutely every now and then in a blue moon you get what's called a writer director an auteur and this is that what a tour means an outdoor is just anyone who literally um writes something oh so me yeah you are you are an author i know it also i just gotta say what it's a true thrill that he's here with us an auteur who i think does his job this is this this is this is my dream of a director of an author even say a writer someone who does the job so well and yet i will i will put him together with andrew on someone who is like not going

7:35 to like really like push too much like the identity of i'm really good at what i do and yet he's really good at what he does and doesn't do you know what i mean yeah yeah is this coming out the wrong way no it's coming off the right way what you're saying is this is a controlled person who knew their vision and saw it through and both and it's really great and it's got like such a specific like signature aesthetic and you know in the trailer they say it is from an emerging voice they don't just say right from writer and director the name they say it's an emerging new voice which i think is very apt and i'm extremely proud of our guest and he's going to tell us all about the movie i loved the movie so much and we'll we're going to dash and gosh and gosh to him to his face so that he can respond and you know we could say the person that's the guest on the episode has sort of been a character in the show you know

8:26 what i mean or someone you've dated interesting that might can't confirm or deny i might sort of play into i don't know how public he wants to be about our relationship i know i know and you have we have to respect i wonder if it'll be in his wikipedia ooh jared frieder dated matt rogers there is a there is like a listicle thing you know one of those bad listicles yeah their net worth is seven hundred thousand dollars i'm like where's that money oh they think mine is like two million and i'm like honey my favorite is that they think that the guest's dog is my dog it's like matt has one dog named jane we must talk about jane we'd talk about jane everyone welcome someone who unironically loves the song we don't talk about bruno the writer director of three months jared frieder how you feeling wow i've always wanted to go to the circus so this is a delay would you consider this clown parade i would consider this clown

9:26 college all the way to the clown parade so maybe like it's sort of like we're gonna graduate pretty soon what is the pipeline is it clown college to clown parade and then clown brigade yes i think that great brigade by definition is big parade and then show time show time which is matt's new home yeah please well listen um congrats on making a film thank you girl how does it feel now that okay we're recording this before it's out in the world yes so let's just have you pretend for temporal manipulation's sake that it's come out and that you can like fast forward and you feel yourself like wow it's out or what are you anticipating feeling when the movie is like publicly available i have no idea this whole thing's been pretty surreal um i'm like very excited to get really really stoned on wednesday and just like read dms from gay kids in arkansas yeah like thank you for making me feel less alone that's

10:19 truly the dream that's my only expectation and that's basically guaranteed i really it really is and that's what's so great like and the thing is like you get bogged down in the biz yeah like of like so many things like it's and then you realize like when when someone reaches out and they're like i was moved by this and helped by this and that's just the bare minimum some people like especially with this movie like and i would love for you to tell everyone like what it's about and where it came from but with this movie people are going to be really moved and i mean i was moved and like i i just i think i speak for like all queer people i just i just really want everyone to get on their paramount plus today or in the coming days and watch this because it's really [ __ ] great really great thank you girls tell us what the movie is about where it came from all the stuff matches so it's called three months

11:10 um and it's loosely based on my um homosexual life and it's about just in case you guys didn't know matthew write that down um okay i remember okay yeah uh we'll get to that um don't be mean to me this is this is my one chance to talk to your demo about what the truth feels like oh my what's the difference the funniest i said pink no but it's okay yeah we're the same we're allowed to sort of because we gave pink so much at the top of the episode we can humble her yeah um so it's basically it's called three months and it's about this kid named caleb who is graduating high school um and is going through a breakup and on the eve of his graduation he's exposed to hiv takes place in 2011 in south florida and he has to wait the three months it takes to find out what his hiv status is and while he waits he falls in love with someone who's also waiting um but it's like a i know it sounds dark and there are serious themes and topics

12:06 but it is a comedy it's like such a blast start to finish um and it's a story i like wrote almost a decade ago but you guys know how hard it is to get gay [ __ ] made it's like [ __ ] impossible and so this is like truly the catwoman of the gay movie world like it's had nine lives as a movie and then a tv show and finally a movie again and i think the weirdest thing about it and matt was there the whole time truly but you know we went into production on march 3rd 2020 not sure if you girls remember what happened right after that there was a big storm there was it was a storm it was a storm hurricane rhona yeah came and rained down on us um and we had a shutdown after two weeks of filming and you know we waited for seven months never knowing if we were actually going to finish this is a movie about waiting in uncertainty because of a virus yeah and the movie was literally waiting oh my god i never i never

13:01 thematically connected that yeah it was a lot and so you know it's also a movie about like waiting and how waiting is a part of the human experience and you have to fight for what you want and what you love while you wait and i felt like this was like i felt a little bit not to be this egocentric but a little bit like job from the bible where like this was my ultimate test to see if i could sort of um encapsulate the feeling and the themes of the film and fighting for it until we came back and we did and we finished and it's out today on paramount plus it's so cool it's been crazy i've only peripherally followed you on this journey because i remember just like hearing the updates yeah that like oh like production shut down of course because of covid and for like the seven months intervening between that and when you guys started up again like i would be hanging out with you and you'd show me

13:47 like you know pictures from set from modern like monitor shots and be like i don't know when we'll do it again but look at this and i was like that's the most gorgeous shot i've ever seen and i'm like that this and i remember for that period what march to october just thinking god i really hope jared gets to make this again soon and now yeah i know of course and like it is not no one would begrudge you for like comparing it to like joe because it is filmmaking when you're especially in your position it can only feel like something of like biblical proportions because it's so [ __ ] hard and i know it sounds like such an industry circle dirt kind of thing when people like talk about this stuff like on either like we as actors matt and i talking about it like it sometimes it feels a little bit masturbatory but it's like no like when you're in it it the stakes feels for whatever reason so high and this is to bring it back to you

14:38 like this was so laden with like i don't know like hardship and all these different obstacles and for for this to be the product in the end is so so so great thank you yeah i mean it's so painful but like we it's gonna be a great year of like queer movies which i don't think people understand like how rare and hard it is i mean we have amazing fire island coming out there's bros there's three months there are so many queer movies coming out this year and when i tell you again it's just like near [ __ ] impossible to make that happen i don't know what's going on america is getting gayer thank god um but the kids are going to be eating the little the little fagolas especially because it's on paramount plus which i i feel like they're watching all stars and then they're gonna be watching [ __ ] three months oh darling they're gonna be flipping back and forth oh girl they're gonna be saying should we watch untucked

15:23 or three months that's what's gonna happen on friday and hopefully they watch both at the same time two tv yeah yeah this is actually a huge hack it's a 30 minute movie right yes if you're not watching three months you are only getting a third of this story yeah yeah yeah but that's and another thing is just like it's it's so difficult to get things made and like obviously like you can't necessarily be super honest about like every single thing you go through because it's like it's laden with so much stuff but when it's you when it's something that's so close yeah and the fact that like you know you hear sometimes in in hollywood or whatever like you know it took 40 years to make the wife you know what i mean like but like literally it's been how many years it's been nine years nine years and it was a show that was like supposed to go right and it was like all these different uh forms and etc and then you know you're

16:16 making it and sometimes it then the [ __ ] pandemic and it just feels like one thing after another and meanwhile it's anyone would be emotional about investing that time energy into anything but this is like something that you said was semi-autobiographical super personal yeah yeah so basically when i was graduating from college um i went through experience experience where i had sex with someone who found out they were paused and a condom broke and i had to wait to find out if i had it too and it was a really interesting time in my life because time before prep time which was time before panicked time yeah like yeah i mean there's just the anxiety you know i feel like us as gay men we are programmed and hardwired to be so scared of hiv and it was like the boogeyman growing up i mean i remember coming out and one of the first things you know people would say to me is you know i i grew up in the

17:02 public school system yeah and it's just it's it's you know people can like fall in love and live their dreams and do everything they've always wanted to do and i hope people really take that away from this film because that was something i had to take away and learn from that experience and um you know i don't know i'm really excited for people to see it matt matt brought this up last night we hung out with you and he was like you know what's so so perfectly treated in this movie is the way that the hiv concept is never so heavily presented you know it's like this character caleb is just thinking about it in terms of like well like it's never that fatal and so he's and like as he's like on this journey of like kind of you know reckoning with this potentiality of him being hiv positive he's watching the real world san francisco and going wow like there's this like actual application of lived and experience of someone who is

18:13 hiv positive living his life in a very complete fulfilled way and like it i feel like it's you you weave these things and braid them together so well that like it never feels like something that's like the stakes are like so so bleak there's no there's no despairing in his journey which i think is so unbelievably rare for you i mean it's it's it's unbelievably so so so like i don't know what am i trying to say like graceful of you i think that it's really it feels like a it feels like a first yeah it felt so novel because i think that when when when people are going to hear like it's a it's a comedy it's a it's a it's a dramatic yeah yeah about you know the potential of contracting hiv and it's a young person it's like oh like and i think we are sort of triggered by the the letters hiv to think oh sad you know because there's so much despairing and there's so much tragedy and you know i actually had an

19:09 extremely we recently viewed fire island again and i had an extremely emotional reaction because it's hard to not reckon with it's just it's something it's a part of the fabric of being queer communal history yes and so that's what i love about this movie too is it's it's sort of saying like his doctor is never looking at him in the eyes and being like this is really serious you know what i mean like it's can you speak to that yeah i mean played by the amazing hobby yeah it was i mean i i i basically wrote this part for him and he was one of the first people to be cast in the film and openly pause openly hiv positive and um just a huge inspiration for me but you know it's all about tone right like tone was tone was paramount and and figuring out the balance and the type paramount plus yes um but like walking the tightrope of tone was really important because i wanted this to be a hopeful film for

20:02 people i wanted it to be fun but i also wanted to talk about things that are important to me and things that i've learned and you know this is really a movie that i wished i could have had when i was growing up as a kid and that was top of mind but for me it's all about tone tone tone my favorite movies are ones that walk that that that tightrope you know what i mean like juno was a huge tonal inspiration i was just gonna bring it up and it's the same it's people who produced it yeah so like in a very full circle moment the producers of juno read the script after other producers had dropped out in one of the you know deaths and they invited me over like the day after they read it and they were like we want to help you make this movie with mtv studios and it was truly a dream come true because um i remember it not a spoiler but this was one of the things i was thinking of for my culture was juno yeah yeah yeah i was like

20:48 unfortunately a gross tracy flick in high school where i like needed to get every straight a and be captain of everything so i could get the [ __ ] out of florida yeah there's a lot of trouble your kids have that yeah oh yeah best little boy boy in the world yes um and uh the only time i ever skipped school was to go to the theater and see juno when i was a senior and my mind was truly blown and obviously that character is straight but there's something about elliot's performance where it felt inherently there was something queer i just couldn't put my finger on it but i was so affected by it and it was the first time as a kid i had seen a film that talked about something that was somewhat taboo or something that wasn't often talked about in a way that was funny and light and hopeful and accessible and i was like oh i want to do that i want to emulate that and and tell important stories but you know with

21:36 a nice little lip sync and a mini mart with [ __ ] my favorite pop star in the whole goddamn world yeah let's talk about that for a second because the this the situation is it stars troye sivan who is again like it feels like a meeting of project and star which i'm so excited for him and for you the creator of this movie because i personally i i think he's so talented but did not know he was capable of this i mean i just love to see it i mean he gives such a understated yet like complex performance because he is scared he is afraid i mean you are living in a place of fear that entire time but yet he still carries with him a lightness and he is just so comfortable with the comedy and with your writing and i i mean i think i can i'm not i'm i don't think i'm saying anything crazy when i say diablo is obviously an influence in your writing like there is like a lot of um diablo and shonda yeah right

22:37 there's a lot of punch in your writing and you have to be a funny performer and like i did not know like you wouldn't look at troye sivan on stage singing my my my and bloom and think he's gonna be really funny actor and yet he is and can you speak to working with him and how he got involved yeah so i mean the thing with caleb is i wrote the kid i wished i could have been in high school um and troy is literally just the kid i wish i could have been in high school he's so effortlessly cool and just embodied every element of this character and um the love interest esta played by vivek calra fantastic he's like it's really insane how incredible of a capital a actor he is but i i was an esta growing up you know what that monologue he gives oh i i i oh my god i related so hard i'm sorry well that's my that's my that's me i've never written from the heart like i have with that monologue like just about

23:26 shame and you know being trying to be the perfect little gay boy so that this other part of me that i'm scared of i'm scared for everyone to see um trying to overcompensate for that yeah um and just the way he accessed that was crazy so you know that's who i was in high school i was in esta and troy just like he just got it first of all he's like a nice jewish boy which we obviously immediately connected on that but um he's like i know it's like woman who gets it or whatever but like he's like a gay who gets it and you wouldn't necessarily think that because you know he is this pop star he is larger than life and cool but when you meet him he's just like yeah he's very you know he could be an actor on a saturday night you know like chad and no chatting away so it was it was really it was really cool and he's such a hard worker and um you know he started off in acting right right yeah right right and

24:13 i think that people don't know that there's baby wolverine baby i didn't know that until this moment in the wolverine movie right yes yeah yeah yeah yes yes yeah yeah yes yes yes queer assy icons should we cut that just kidding no i think we should leave it i'm making no comments troy is amazing in the film and that that's another thing is i i forget like or i i understand more and more and more i work it's like the director is everything so what's your working relationship with him like like what's that like what's that duet like i mean it's it's really fun for me the thing that that surprised me the most about directing that i did not know is like you think people come in with their like huge megaphone and they just like give orders and like everyone and like there is a little bit of that but it really is just like about listening to people and i feel like i've always been a really great listener as you know i was in a

25:14 relationship with matt rogers so um that is a prerequisite um i only get three of those so that was one um you can have money there is no limit there's no cap um but you know it's it's i'm a really good listener i'm a really good collaborator and basically you know we just got to the emotional truth of the scene but the funny the funny thing about troy is you know this is the first time he's doing a comedy so you know you're obviously talking about serious themes and then i would i would have to like constantly remind him i was like no no but this is a funny scene and he'd be like oh all right and we would just sort of work through tone first and um you know there's also a lot of different um characters with different identities and backgrounds and i'm also someone who like defers to the actors lived experience for that for that part like with the vec i rewrote this role almost every single day every single the

25:58 monologues all the stuff because he was like well this is more true to my experience as an indian person with brienne it was like this is more true to my experience as an indonesian chinese-american you know same thing with lugosi junior as an african-american so with with troy you know judaism plays a huge part in this movie and um it delves into like the orthodox community's relationship with queerness which is not always spoiler alert um cute right yeah so true i was basically like so listen my dad's religious jew and i would love to put something in here that reflected like judaism in a positive light and so there's a there's a sequence out when they're on the playground and they're underneath and basically esta says to caleb do you like being jewish and he sort of went into that too so it is like a back and forth to me it is like such a blessing to be able to work with some of your idols and

26:47 all these creative people finding the best answer and it's never it's never solely in your brain it is like a symphony yeah well i was thinking about you in a way i'm not in a way i just was literally thinking about you as i was watching the movie and going wow i just really i i really can so clearly picture jared being on set with ellen judy troy like lou like all of these people that like i'm sure you've like looked up to you and like we're so excited to work with and going yeah like it i see it so clearly like you being this like steady presence on on that environment going knowing how to sort of cater to all them make them feel cared for i mean like i feel like you are very much a caretaker i you know that's so funny that you mentioned that because there are roses and there are gardeners flowers and gardeners stars and rocks such as flowers as you know matthew rogers flower on flower and flower no a wreath a wreath

27:44 that's what happens when you're at pisces rising pisces cancer moon air flower flowers honey i'm a leo rising leo and i should be a flower and at times i am a flower but um i mean when ellen first stepped on set and did her first scene i i was literally clutching my producer's arms and being like never let me forget this moment yeah it's ellen first thing it's i mean just one of the reasons i wanted to become a filmmaker like her movies you know alice and [ __ ] the exorcist and last picture show i was like i can't believe this person is here saying my lines like she means them and it was like truly true that character is so great yeah based off my own grandma who i literally lost in the middle of the pandemic who never got to see the film so it's like one of these things where it's just like i wanted to do her proud but like ellen like emulated her hair in her brooklyn accent and we worked so hard on

28:29 character to figure out how she could like inhabit this character who was essentially my grandma which is again like so trippy i mean pinch me like take it with me until i croak sort of vibes so when you watch the film what is your biggest regret when i watch the film there's i feel like there's so cute there was a scene that was cut that i feel so here's the team someone flew all the way out to atlanta when i was in pre-production of this film three months i was dating what i would call an actor at the time um and uh i identify as an actor as an actor for two days he identified as a dancer and i'll get to that later oh yes oh my god okay don't prank me and expect me not to bring it up on your pocket i've brought it up i mentioned it all yeah okay well i haven't so um matt was we were talking about it and i wanted matt to visit me on set and i was like there is this role but it's probably going to get cut i told you in

29:30 advance you did tell me in advance but i thought i did such a stunning performance what i will say certainly it would be in what i will say here's what i'll say here's what i'll say matt and troy great team partners great chemistry incredible yeah incredible we had a moment yeah basically the scene was like i was like are they gonna do it troy comes up to the bar and orders a drink and he has like a shitty fake id and i'm this bartender and i was like um i look at the id and i know it's fake but i give him a drink anyway and i'm like hitting on him and he's like oh like um you shouldn't hit on me i'm over there with like these the paws people right and then i reveal that i'm positive it's not a big deal i have an extremely active sex life and it was like a cute little interplay between right and then like um because he's like a dick to me i'm like you better tip and i will go away just a little cameo yeah

30:16 yeah yeah but when i say that like it's so interesting to watch you know troy do comedy in that way because you like improv a little and later i was told not to improvise they didn't have time i see it all never depends it depends on the set you know i had all i always matt is such a great improviser such a great comedic actor and like when i tell you that troy like leveled up with the comedy in that moment and what i think and i've never told you this but judy greer shot two days after literally judy grew the kind of she's so good i mean she flew in when like everyone was like covet covered like as the world was collapsing we shot her out the last two days thursday friday her first day there we were like i'll never forget we were all sitting in that [ __ ] mini mart and we were like tom hanks has has code i remember when he got not tom you know what i mean and it was it was whatever but

31:07 judy of course improv the [ __ ] out of that scene and troy was prepared for that because i think of your little moment with him and it's such a great scene and maybe we'll put it on youtube as a deleted scene but matthew was excellent it was fun and obviously i wanted to come visit you anyway and actually was valentine's day it was which leads me to i won't say who it was but we shared you were sharing you were sharing them like it was but a huge star yeah was it was in the same was like a duplex yeah so you were in one half of duplex and this gigantic star was in the other half of the duplex yeah suffice it to say we heard this celebrity unnamed celebrity getting railed so hard one night it was insane do you remember oh i i can you can you emulate the sound do your porg sound oh my port it was like it was it was it was like a porg from star wars from star wars it's most perturbed it was like and we

32:12 were like let's be louder and we were like we can't do that that's the last thing i'll say the only hints i'll give is it was no she was no i don't matt no she was getting this no i almost had it she but she was getting absolutely railed and while i was there i spoke to this person on the phone because uh i i know you i told you this an edible arrangement that your mom sent us oh my god was accidentally picked up by this individual and so she called oh my god because the phone was there and i spoke with her on the phone and she was it was her and she was like i literally was like oh i'll come out and meet you i'll come out and take it from you she goes oh no no i left it on the on the doorstep no worries and i was like oh well thank you so much she was like all right well enjoy it it looks so good oh and then i brought it in we did not get to talk to this huge celebrity because people be

33:01 shooting in atlanta of course everyone should it's the new hollywood yeah yeah um i want to bring up one thing that i loved and then another thing that i think is curious that i think we'll open up another discussion oh my god there we go okay so the first thing is talk about because i brought this up to you last night and talk about this love scene between uh between troy and vivec or uh between caleb and esta i am obsessed with this love scene where they finally decide to be intimate together despite like you know them sort of having this pending you know situation happen and the way it was shot the way it was just like choreographed and composed i was like i don't think i've seen this i don't think i've seen this in film like an adolescent queer sexual experience it felt real that felt real and so and yet so delicate and like careful and interest and my reputation has never been more so

33:58 he looks like me for me that dovetails into my second thing which is what was the choice behind making caleb hey taylor swift okay so i mean it's so nice to hear you say that that was the scene i worked the hardest on really um we like it was painstaking i mean truly just with my producers in the trailer even like minutes before being like okay we have to sort of redo the shot list because it needs to be more honest it needs to be more awkward it needs to be more comedic but for me it was just sort of like as a queer man like i feel like we have interesting ideas about what sex needs to be it's so like god i mean i i porn has not like ruined anything for me some people say that i think it's just curate a very specific image in my head for sure and and this is maybe what you're talking about yeah i just feel like sex is like you know there's this notion of like penetrative counts if it's not penetrative it doesn't count

34:48 but i think sex is how you define it and for me it was just trying to create like intimacy between these two people who are going through the set of experiences who want to share each other physically um and you know i wanted to make sure again tone tone tone every scene it was like we have to stay on tone and you know there was a version of the scene that was like hot and sexy and whatever but that didn't feel authentic and there was a scene where it was like dude like welcome to the clown card

35:24 yeah and so i just wanted to create something that felt sweet and intimate that was also funny and real but the popcorn element of it was actually something i did with my college boyfriend who is obsessed with both of you and he thought i was so cool when i started dating matt because he listens to this podcast hi andy um and uh yeah it was like just something we did with like popcorn we were like obsessed with popcorn my like junior year or whatever and like we just did it and i was like what a and it just became a metaphor like popcorn means more than in just that scene it's like a running um symbol through the film for esta but um it was just it was it was funny and hot and all these different things and i'm really excited for people to see it troy also like loves that scene he was like i look good in that scene and i was like you look good all the time i mean which reminds me he's [ __ ] venus

36:15 like he really has such a striking like like god-given like movie star look yeah and the thing too is what i thought was so funny was this when they were shooting the mini mart stuff like there's a scene where they get stoned in a mini-mart and um troy and uh brianne who i don't want to lose saying is so good so she is incredible she gets the comedy for sure i mean she and troy play each other so [ __ ] yeah she's a movie very very i'm so excited very very like thick stardom yeah yeah but anyway um there's a scene where they get stoned and started dance around the mini mart and i remember you texting me and being like yeah we actually had to tell troy to be less of like a magnetic pop star yeah and that scene where they're dancing because it's like explain it well there's just like first of all we like that was like such run and gun because that was the last thing we shot during the day before we had to shut

37:06 down for seven years yeah so it was like i told shannon who's my dp who is number one obsessed with matt thought he was the most gorgeous person she'd ever seen she was so um and i was like you're wrong just kidding um and uh we were like light the whole [ __ ] store and bruce her her husband who's also our b cam operator just like [ __ ] followed them around as the world was truly falling on our heads it was like such a weird mix of emotions because it's such a joyful experience and then on the other hand i was like god i hope this virus doesn't kill my family like that's where we were at that moment it was like certainly the house down yeah yeah uncertainty the house down boom um with gloves in a mask and try was just like being troy he was like having fun in the moment and then i was like oh my god he's so magnetic but he's literally and he's he's coming off as an international pop superstar and like not this little

37:56 [ __ ] from florida sure so we had to cut around a lot of it too and i remember when we first saw the first cut of the movie because usually i don't show actors working we really shouldn't be seeing we should not be no honestly it's not none of your business but still i'm actually right yeah the more the longer i work in this business the more i hear about oh you know that person that actor she needs to see all playback oh playback is different well playback i think it's annoying i think actors should not be running back it's such a disrespect it depends on who it is but uh just they have no business seeing cuts because you don't want actors to get in their heads and it's still a working cut and you're not coming in with an objective perspective and when you show someone a working cut the objective is how do i make the movie better right and like the movie not a particular performance necessarily but

38:45 the movie as a whole yeah so you want people who are objective but anyway troy had to see it because he was writing music for it he was writing songs right and one of his only notes for the mini mart sequence is like um i look like a pop star here and i was like you do and so we had to continue to sort of cut around it was very in touch with his presence and like i mean i still think about him in the mind my video i'm like absolutely he's not even doing that much no he's kind of just like i mean you know kind of standing still in a storm but like the in the bridge there's a shot of him upside down in red lights and then uh i got my name on this treasure on this change and like he just has it's so crazy it is shocking so we just cut a music video that will come out today um for weight which is love and we should say the two songs that he did for this the the film which are trouble and weight are like

39:36 both absolutely amazing and if they're beautiful honestly like i know it's coming out early in the year if if there's justice at the end of the year wait is in the oscar conversation so because it is so beautiful and like i just want to put that out there in the world because you know he's got very close to a nomination for his song from boy erased which is also beautiful but this is such a beautiful encapsulation of the song on the experience so it's just amazing it's amazing basically like when we were thinking about music for the film and what he would write and he was going through his head because he he wrote the songs from caleb's perspective which like as the biggest choice of on fan like i was at his first show at the rock scene like wow mid 2000 teens like i was like unfortunately a gross stan um and now he's my sister which is such a gift but basically i was like i want you to

40:21 write a song about waiting because that's the experience of the film that's the universal element that people will tap into and he did and in this music video that we cut there's so many scenes and sequences um from the film that didn't make it and there's this one really cool up all night montage where he can't sleep and it's all the stuff caleb does in his room until the sun rises wow i would have loved to see that and it's in time lapse shannon and i shot it in time lapse so like it felt music video it was honestly a departure structurally from the rest of the film so it almost didn't even fit in from a structural structural place but i mean this this movie is like montage city i'm obsessed with montages it's also a movie about time so it works it lends itself dramatically but i'm so excited we got to use it and we turned it into a short film and we just showed troy the cut this morning

41:06 and he lost his mind he's so happy so i'm so excited for people to see it but yeah he i hate this phrase because i think it's so obnoxious but he holds the frame like he carries right now he doesn't have to do [ __ ] it's crazy some people do and some people don't right he's got it damn you got it please we said the same thing about joel oh my god he really holds the frame i mean i mean hottest person in america yeah it's really crazy um the theme of waiting is so perfectly i don't know like encapsulated and i just think that's a really hard thing to pull off in a movie waiting how do you get compelling right but there's something in me sort of uh timeline of waiting for uh like an hiv diagnosis to come back that also just like i think you treated very very very well thank you well you know it's really interesting i'm like not an actor like even being here talking on this podcast i'm like truly

42:04 sweating i'm so nervous but um something i learned the most about writing in an acting class i was forced to take in college which is basically like it's objective based right like you have to give someone an objective and for me it's impossible for me to write characters that are not active yeah and so something that's funny that happened is i sort of overdid it because it is a movie about waiting and then during the pandemic when all i was doing was no and now something we're so familiar with yeah well all i was doing was sort of smoking weed and getting high with matthew and eating donuts that his mom katrina would send we gained a lot we gained a lot of weight basically we were like just binging survivor and eating donuts and smoking weed and i was like there's not a moment in this movie where caleb goes through that and so i wrote this entire thread in the middle of the pandemic and we've already shot half of

42:48 it where he's i was like he needs to binge something but we have no money what can we get for free and i was like oh my god and then you thought of hey and i was like it's such an important thing for me for this film to honor the queer generations that came before us it's so paramount plus and um and uh pedro was the first openly paused person ever on television it was the first same-sex commitment ceremony ever televised and the the ability and the honor of putting that in the movie is something i'm like very very grateful for and um yeah just we're all waiting right now so i hope it resonates with people absolutely and i think that opening i remember even reading when you sent me the screenplay i like read it um and i just that that first that opening image just stuck with me it's so indelible where it's like it's him waiting and this is not a spoiler you see in the movie but it's caleb on a

43:40 tandem bicycle by himself waiting for this gate to open up basically yeah like a bridge drawbridge drawbridge yeah sorry and um yeah just like just so perfect i for me i like this is i love movies it's like with novels where the first sentence of a novel tells you everything you need to know about about the novel i love movies where the first shot tells you everything you need to know and he's on a tandem bike alone waiting for this bridge to come down yeah you can get to the other side and that's just what the movie is and not just but i think the best films sort of are very aware of the first and the last main character in the last image of caleb is just really really perfectly perfectly set against the first you know as a tracey flick i'm a symmetry girl so like the beginning of the movie mirrors the end of the movie with one very important difference yes i won't give it away but but i never i never go oh it's

44:24 two on the nose for the symmetry to be that apparent i i i think no that is like satisfying it's so satisfying and you have to it's sort of necessary if you want the character arc to be something that the audience can walk away from which is what's most important exactly yeah yeah so i just want to go back to one thing that i was told i was not allowed to make my culture because you guys talk about it too much on the podcast already what juno no no it's taylor it was taylor swift first of all i didn't tell him that he couldn't do anything okay i said he was deciding between two things we can talk about taylor absolutely what are you doing are you first of all i'm not doing anything are you transitioning out of this topic to go to culture that was for culture was for me i just want to talk about taylor really quickly and then we can transition to whatever that was that was my second i want to say

45:06 before we before we get into this i did not tell him anything he he said i have two ideas for culture you are muzzle i don't micromanage jared you are muzzler he gave me two ideas for culture and one of them was taylor and i said if you're deciding between the two we talk about taylor a lot but jared is the biggest swifty in the room and i feel like a lot of our listeners are swifties okay so say what you want to say mama okay so i was asking about the decision to make caleb has to love taylor so the first thing that i'll say is when i was writing this in 2013 i it was a very emotional experience because it's a very honest screenplay and i felt too close to caleb and it was [ __ ] me the [ __ ] up and i was like how do i make this kid someone who is definitively not me and i was like oh my god he doesn't like taylor swift because i am so deeply and grossly obsessed with her anyone you meet it's like 99 of my

46:02 personality is taylor swift one percent as being a jewish person with a weak stomach that's truly all there is to me a very simple man and this is 2011. the movie takes place in 2011 so this is please don't be in love with someone else please don't have somebody waiting on you i mean when i was in 2012 i placed that five out of ten thousand contestants in the taylor swift biggest fan contest because i wrote a 15-page essay and i met her at the basement of the staples center and she is absolutely perfect and my favorite joke from that essay is at what when i was talking about why taylor and i were the same because red which was the album is the color that's also in my name j-a-r-e-d you're welcome but and i was like oh my god

46:47 um so i basically went up to taylor swift and was like um i was like uh thank you for writing 22 because i'm also 22. and she was like oh my god you're so funny and i was like i'm not you say this to everyone but um in my essay i was like at one point we both loved the jonas brothers at another point we both got over that and i was like oh my god and so you made that and so that was like that was a character yeah sort of texture on caleb and because troy is friends with taylor it's like it's a funny wink well he also like ran the lines by her to be like did he really yeah yeah yeah cause i was because you were talking about maybe the fact that she would see it or like that he was going to maybe show it to her or something and i was like well the character doesn't like her well what the line is [ __ ] you for making me like taylor swift once esta like they fall in love the catalyst for their me cute is because

47:45 they like the connection is taylor because he says a line that is the truest thing about me which is sometimes i feel like she steals my journal and writes about my life which is why i love taylor well i think everyone feels like that which is why she's such a great right i mean for me and i know you guys talk about this on the podcast all the time but as like a closeted gay kid when i first fell in love with her when i was 16 when our song came out and tim mcgraw came out i was like oh the only emotion that resonates with me is pining because i'm someone who has unrequited love and it's you know i'm classified better than anyone else anyone else yearning wanting um and um she's able to synthesize that with a lyric and a sound sonically that just is such an incredible marriage that is so specific and so detail-oriented but also universal and just stays with you for [ __ ] ever and i've seen her 15 times

48:32 and i'm so nervous for her to see this film i hope she likes it and um she's my entire life but she's not my culture and you know what accurately she's not my culture jared frieder what is the culture that means you say culture is for me what a moment imagine you're a deer you're prancing along you spot a brook you put your lips to the crystal clear water and bam a [ __ ] bullet goes through your brain marissa this really he does know every line every line famously mud has chinese food literally my favorite movie it was something that like i i i bonded with my fam like my fam we're from florida i'm from miami but we're brooklyn jews so basically they snowbirded with my grandparents and never left because there was a beach and it was warm classic so my my parents are you know vinnie and mona lisa vito and what a good name cousins brothers uncles first of all my family's on the car business like like she says in the movie

49:32 my father's in the business my brother my uncle on my father's side like i'm the only one who's not in the car business and we can quote it it made us feel alive and like family and it was also like the first movie i stand where it had life or death stakes but it was funny and the the thing that made the protagonist an outsider is also the thing that saves the day in the end which in my opinion is very queer that which makes you different is actually your superpower that is interesting i've never seen it you've never seen that owen this is this is uh actually a huge moment because my cousin vinnie is really good and i talk about it talk about a great script oh my god incredible like it's so it's just it's really good yeah and and joe pesci is incredible but the the story of it is marissa thomas i mean marisa tomei is mona lisa vito she won the oscar people don't think there are still people out

50:26 there who don't think it's true that she won right that is like oh mandela if that new mandela effect just dropped yeah people really don't think that you want people really don't think she won because they're convinced that up against her competition which was like all older british dramatic actresses that year was like it was like lynn read graves like a year away it's supporting her lead right although it's a big part yeah so it's like i mean she's number two on the call she's clear yeah like but and she's like the the female lead but she is so [ __ ] funny in it and she absolutely crushes crashes like six comedic set pieces and she is the climax of oh my god and it's just like look you gotta see this she was the first drag queen i ever saw yeah yeah yeah she's fabulous she's smart i want to be her she's sexy it's a heightened version of femininity that you hadn't seen it was on but unbelievable and to this day it also

51:23 like makes all these lists of movies that get um law like accurate that's true yeah yeah it's like it's like accurate in terms of like how a court case like that would play out like it sort of predates like i guess legally blonde in that way yeah like legally blonde wasn't that accurate no it wasn't no tino shade but yeah vinnie is like blah made it seem like made lost like a mystery yeah yeah although the thing of the thing too about my cousin vinnie is like it's just in terms of chemistry like joe pesci and marissa tomei they're amazing joe doesn't get the credit from the queers he doesn't joke she never misses never i mean ever home alone stand up i mean good fellas i'm like that is a genius performance from him unreal just a madman i've never immediately his performance in goodfellas it's like you know it's a movie so these people aren't real but like i like whenever i'm terrified oh my god i was just like god this is

52:23 crazy it's it's real it's very accurate to what happens when someone like loses their muscle like because it's of course yes it's anger it's anger portrayed so bracingly and scarily and it's that kind of thing like i think we all know people who it starts like you think they're kidding and then goes into this place and especially to track that like as a filmmaker like martin scorsese is incredible because like as a performance as like a scene it really works because it catches you by surprise where it goes yeah and like it's because it's measured and i would say obviously that's a dramatic performance but as a comedic actor he's insane of course he is he's like he's like an unsung like comedic yeah like you mention home alone and i think people don't even need it like you mentioned home alone it's like you you don't even take into account how difficult it is to give that good of a comedic performance and

53:22 he needs to be the cop in the beginning yeah and then he needs to come back and like you need to like be able to root for macaulay but also like you you need to you need you're not gonna care about what happens to these two two guys yeah if like they're not flushed out in some way right also to to do a performance that's fun that's funny where he's like constantly in pain yes yeah oh my god not easy at all buckets of paint to the face truly slipping on ice like nail gun in his gonads truly i mean gets electrified his hair catches on fire has to go in a toilet like yeah it's it's it's a clown yeah but basically like also too the thing about um my cousin vinnie is it it's totally it is such a fine line because it's fish out of water like there are these like brooklyn people like down in the south like dealing with this and she feels she's big yeah because she's mona lisa vito and like she's got these crazy

54:19 monologues and it's like it's truly like it's like it's almost a play a lot of it sure yeah so much like the scenes are long and she's got these crazy monologues but she still feels grounded in like a real person and i remember after she won that oscar it almost like was like because people were so surprised it was like well who even is this person right and she had to prove it so many times again and again and again and again and she's got i think two nominations since then yeah which is the wrestler and in the bedroom which are two completely different performances and this is why i'm always like we need to be giving more attention to the comedic performances oh yeah and if that can win there's no reason why rachel mcadams shouldn't win in mean girls like and so whenever these big comedic performances come along like i do i am one of those people who was like if tiffany haddish had gotten it for a

55:12 girl's trip i would not have been mad at all i feel like she was vindicated with the la la land moonlight thing because we all learned that like if they ever announced the wrong name like it's they'll come out and they'll say they're gonna say yes people were like oh the presenter just announced her name but it wasn't her but now we know that like no but the oscars themselves came out were like she did get the most votes yeah period for the win for the win when she won people were like i think we're talking about tiffany for a second yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah marissa wins and then it was like no [ __ ] yeah oh yes and everyone

55:56 i mean like the dialogue is indelible even for someone who hasn't seen i mean like i mean i i don't reference anything spoiler alert spoiler we can't spoil but but no no i i'm just gonna say like the fact that i i know like the defense is wrong and my biological clock is sticking like this like that like those are like films oh yeah phrases let's just say that it means the iconography of her performance will appear in a movie that's coming out yes yes yeah yes mrs vito please answer the question does the defendant's case hold water the best no the defense is wrong i always think matt would do an amazing marissa to me impression if you're on my snapchat that's your snapchat marista yeah it's mona lisa yeah yeah but what a good culture and also bowen you will enjoy the movie yeah you'll really like it's one of those movies that i'm like oh why haven't i it's the karate kids in it herman monsters in it

56:52 all these you know famous other people don't tell me it's what 1980 something with that nineteen ninety ninety one one 1991 1992 i think i think but like holds the hell of course of course of course you know what's interesting though and not not to like and i do want your thoughts on this but it's interesting that someone in the yard of our lord 2022 you says the the first scene of the movie should say everything about the movie and you are not a power of the dog stand wow to call me out like that so publicly okay i'm here to listen you stepped into the arena here's what i'll say i would love to see the film again i need to see it again because i'm wrong constantly um wow that's huge of him okay um matthew but um here's what i'll say he thinks he got coveted in disney world he do you remember when we went to matt made me get close no i didn't so she's so confused when we went to puerto vallarta

57:50 for new year's a couple years ago yes that's right and then pre-covet everyone we were not gays over it was new year's 2020. it was new year's 2020 as in january 1st 2020. and then you guys went to orlando right afterwards and you guys both got very sick no we did we did not both give her something jerry got very jared let's this is what i'm saying and this is that's one of jared's famous lines this is what i'll say so we left puerto vallarta to go to orlando florida yeah can we say where the flight was the only flight i could get us to make sure that we would get like three full days was like five in the morning so we had partied all night had to leave at the ass crack of dawn for the airport and i said matt matt i don't have a great constitution he doesn't have if someone sneezes in iowa and i'm in la i will get sick so we get in the plane i think everything's fine he's sleeping on the

58:38 plane it's fine i'm i'm there i see him i'm taking care of him yeah and then we get there that's strong and i swear to god if we woke up he had a fever he's covered in sweat he's like i can't i can't move so i had to do like a full day of destiny by myself because he his body broke yeah my body my body shuts down listen i'm i get it but you don't have covert for four hours and then not have yeah shoot the film and um i just finally went on rise of the resistance two weeks ago can we talk about it did jared love you have not been on it i have not been to a park in what feels like eons so maybe maybe we should go soon maybe maybe you keep threatening me and being like we'll go to orlando you threaten me what do you mean i threaten you i always say we should go and then you're like i can't i'm working and i'm like [ __ ] what do you think i'm doing okay same thing with matt don't call me don't you you are a [ __ ]

59:39 that hurts me and it's very cruel to say [ __ ] jared came in and we're all sniping at each other no we're not i'm sniping at matt yeah he's been sort of he's been sort of like threatening me with the dragging like i'm going to get into it like what what i'm lovely well let's just really quickly pivot sure i think i i mention it all no no i want to bring the conversation um anything else we want to say about my cousin no no no no i've said it all right the culture somehow this came up last night what where each of us had to name our top ten dollars and i got through two and then we were our uber cam you got you got your three and they were all from one album yeah yeah yeah you said you said style blank space and wild streams i got through four because then i said i was like i would like to edit mine but okay you want to finish up your list this is no i want you guys to go first say your say your top ten i'll go

1:00:28 first yeah okay i will maintain that her most underrated song is in my opinion her best i wish you would this is like a crazy opinion everybody's really not go back and listen to it it is the most it is the one song on that whole album that fulfilled besides out of the woods which is like any linux um i wish you would is like full-on arena raw it's full-on like stadium rock 80s like i don't disagree with you that it's great i just think that all you had to do was stay stronger oh my god no you're you're dead wrong you're such a [ __ ] you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] i wish this was the best moment i wish you would i wish you would reach your right i wish you would i wish you a treacherous mountain say something about i wish the thing that i love about 1989 is taylor swift takes the style of other artists who we stan and creates her own version of this is a 1989 house no one needs to convince us that you

1:01:31 know who did that gaga on the fame monster absolutely absolutely with taylor with blank space tell me that's not a lord song tell me that's not what's like a drake beat with like a hip hop of that time which like drake was here with a taylor lyric wildest dreams tell me that's not influenced by lana i hate this and i wish you would it's time

1:02:00 i'm not saying she's stealing i think the best art is when you borrow from people that you love and you make it your own which is what she did on that album and it's why she's such a gifted artist but i [ __ ] love i wish you would yes okay i just think i just i just i will always go to that song when i'm i'm not in the mood for all kinds of taylor all the time yeah i'm always in the mood for i wish you would yeah okay and if any reader publicist out there relates please hit me up i would love to have this conversation i'm sure they will i just don't understand them i think they should be any sanitarium i wish you would treacherous treachery wildest august you did not say style last night last night and thank you for for pushing me you're stealing my [ __ ] no i'm not no i'm not you're a [ __ ]

1:02:54 oh my god so did you have you heard the original sparks fly where she had to change the lyrics in the second verse what would they go on the youtube and go to the youtube and and youtube the original spark as well okay um i feel like i'm now talking like tomas who i stand oh my god we love thomas um and it's like uh it's it's she changed the lyrics because she like got older and it wasn't appropriate but sparks fly was a song she wrote for her first album did not go on the first album fell back in love with it and she put it on speak now she wrote that song when she was 15. yeah and that is that's how you know it is the quintessence of taylor yeah absolutely in that song absolutely okay i've got two more this is the best don't [ __ ] up it don't [ __ ] up it there's one you said last night from evermore oh ivy my favorite and i'm gonna say my last one cruel summer see the dream high in the quiet of the

1:03:50 night you know that i've done it justice for olivia rodrigo do you know have you guys discussed on the pod about what happened with their friendship because of that song not because of new year's day because she sampled it because she basically no that was she asked to do that okay but am i going to get canceled the t is olivia borrowed that's the word i'll use others will say struggle i'm going to say borrowed the bridge of cruel summer for the bridge of deja vu and retroactively

1:04:37 so she had to give retroactive credit songwriting credit she did a lot of that on that album a lot of it is like okay i guess she's like doing her she's she's doing what she should be doing she's amazing all musicals but you can't just write the melody line uh that that album is not as strong as people think yeah all right you said it not me oh but anyway yeah love cruel summer certainly not like people are acting like it's like jagged little pill it's [ __ ] not but it's like noticed it's a solid debut from a talented girl we listen to sour we don't really know who she is it's mostly about a boy not one breakup and it's like here's what i'll say not it's not a debut she used to say in interviews all the time when people would ask her what artist do you emulate who do you love she would be like taylor taylor taylor taylor and since that happened she has stopped saying that and she says like gaga's the greatest

1:05:22 performer i will say we cut this out when i interviewed her for v magazine i brought up like like they they had a list of questions like talked her about taylor was like okay and i was like what was like meeting taylor at the brit awards and she's like really kind of like she thinks yeah it was nice and i was like oh something something happened i didn't i didn't realize it was a bad idea yeah but my ten songs yeah yeah okay here's jared's ten here's my ten number one delicate the greatest pop song that's ever been written i don't i'm sorry i'm not on the delegates oh my god the first time i heard delicate i listen i i stopped listening to your reputation wait oh my god i didn't have no reputation representation honorable mentions from rep from rap okay dress and [ __ ] dress [ __ ] are you guys ready for this not ready for it but end game gets so much [ __ ] one of my favorite taylor swift videos it's if you haven't seen

1:06:12 the video check it out it goes hard yeah like uh like i very happy anyway okay you go delicate delicious my number one for me again talking about the synthesizing of a lyric and an emotion and a sound together yeah it's like that song feels and like the spaces when she's singing the chorus is it cool that i said all that is it show that you're in my head the way she's saying it without the music like it actually is delicate and you like feel it it's so internal and it's so such an incredible song um i'm obsessed all too well which is like a boring choice but it is just maybe the greatest song that's ever been written by any human all the time um you're welcome um i will say ivy my favorite song off of evermore the only song on evermore she wrote with both jack and the guy from the national gag treacherous again talk about pining talk about um i told her that to her face i saw that clip and i literally screamed out loud

1:07:03 it was that promo it was it was a problem and they didn't use it but like it was online it was online no no no i texted it to you i'm high way too much i don't know what matt texted me and what i found on the internet but um oh my god uh uh uh two headlights shine on the sleepless night and i will get you get you alone nothing safe is worth the drive and i will follow you along that's my favorite taylor swift lyric of all time um that's four oh and then i would do i would do i have to go in like album order i would do our song which made me fall in love with her to write that song by yourself at 15 with those specifics get out of here asking god if he could play it again again um i would say you belong with me just for nostalgia's sake i would say um that is a queer song that is you pioneer for your unattainable emotionally unavailable queer queer object um and then i would go holy ground

1:07:56 august august and the one wow the one in her top ten of all her catalogs i love the one the one we i remember when folklore first came out and you and i matt and i both went weird choice for an opener but i love here's the thing i don't dislike the one at all in fact i don't like it at all but well first of all we should say that bone and i were trying to listen to the album and we were in greta's title of his home and she and sudy were talking and it was disrespectful and they should have shut up they were putting out they were trying on clothes and going where was that they were they were they were sort of trying on clothes and being like do you think this shirt looks good on me et cetera and we're like we're listening to taylor now that's was that's when folklore oh you know what i was walking around my neighborhood alone in the dark literally listening to it on repeat perfect perfect that's how i did reputation like

1:08:47 i remember reputation came out when i was on a story pirates tour and shout out to the giraffe that didn't know my most played song on spotify every year you guys have to check it out it's matt original from story pirates where he gives a kelly clarkson bridge like you've never heard it sorry kelly brienne bridge he really he really listens to the giraffes almost every day in the shower it's my track on spotify you guys yeah you got to check it out um but anyway uh what was i saying oh reputation i like walked around and like like soaked it up and it was so amazing are you ready for my tent i guess i'm just gonna knock this out in one from 1989 there are three of my favorite taylor swift songs of all time and i do think that that they should be on any taylor swift fans list and that is blank space and style and then i would say wow this dreams is one of my favorite songs of all time because it's actually

1:09:40 my favorite type of song which is that sort of like romantic windswept like ballad but with motivation like and i mean like i just absolutely love it while this dreams i could listen to it set to a heartbeat by the way which is why we love taylor it's always those details that make the song right i would like to stop here and say that an honorable mention for me which will appear on no one else's list but i don't want to leave 1989 in the album without saying it wonderland is no you're welcome to new york i think is such a goofy song and i think that so much of taylor is hip and that is welcome to new york and the fact that she opened her best album with a song that people don't like it is not that it was and that it was it's not her best self

1:10:35 um and so that's my honorable mention i just want to throw it out there just moving forward hold on can i just say just like for i think what's what is informing your affection your emotional connection to this song is when you and i saw her live 1989 world tour and one of the best nights in my mind plastered and she opens with with welcome to new york and that was the moment where we we all like we you and i keyed into her like turning around you don't even know violently it was so fun it was like oh my gosh why did you see the 1989 world tour girl three times okay when they gave us those bracelets and we were drinking those like three foot tall margaritas i was living my life oh my god the 24 bud lights i was absolutely yeah remember we were so mad but bowen wasn't catatonic because he paid 180 for an uber oh yeah yeah it was so we were we didn't stop thinking about it all night new york met like it was met life in new

1:11:29 jersey yeah so i saw her in new jersey so her so her blank space when you know when she says the city name yeah she would go like and then she'd go uh during the bridge um jersey or yeah i should go jersey and i was kind of like you she wishes she could say new york it's rutherford east rutherford um no but okay so those three oh my god did you see teresa there did you see melissa there did you see any of the girls there i don't think they like taylor swift that's not true i think they look like bon jovi okay whatever anyway um so those three moving forward i would say you have to give it up to love story story because we were both young whenever i saw you like that's like iconic iconique so i would say those are four and then honestly moving forward through time on reputation i do have to give it up to delegate like delegate has to be we're gonna convert there number six i would say and this is no

1:12:23 particular order but dear john dear john i don't know dear john i absolutely love and i i i'm obsessed with the fact that she wrote a john mayer song john mayer yeah i love it that guitar riff and i said if all too well is a 12-minute music video we need to be looking out for a 40-minute feature film of dear john okay written and directed by tayla swift so those are six then i would say and reputation is i think my favorite album but i'm gonna give only delicate on on the list that's fair treacherous and all too well that's seven and eight and that's gonna be fred for me from folklore and it's not to say that i dislike lover because i actually would give another honorable mention to the song lover which i think is incredible it's just not in the top 10.

1:13:18 from folklore i'm going to say august and from evermore this is going to be my wild card choice happiness i love happiness i love some of the best writing she's ever absolutely of course i i agree i agree i am still for whatever reason never with the instinct that i should put on evermore like do it to a full playthrough you know what i did i put it in oh you're in new york so you don't have this but i just bought the cd and i put it in my car so it always comes on and then she said you have to force to listen to it and i have to say it's one of my favorite albums now ever more ever more this is going to be controversial i think evermore is stronger than folklore no no i i think a lot of people i've ever heard a lot of people i think a lot of people think that i there's something about folklore where it it it's sort of like the perfect cosmic album at the right time yeah for me and i think for

1:14:07 everybody we listened to that album in my kitchen oh yeah and it was and it was like you know patti lupone was driving around to it and being like she's like our best songwriter when patti lupone tweeted that she was literally obsessed with folklore i was like never did i think i would see the day that ever i get it because taylor swift is such an amazing storyteller and that's what's important to paddy an actress half of my quarantine was matt just like screaming august in his kitchen that is that's the parking lot my honorable mention the thing that is just neck and neck with august in my listing is mirabal because it's the only song on the album where she's kind of acknowledging the the present circumstance of covid where it's like um when the with the rodeo clowns like go home like when like when there's nothing like who what is her worth when there's no one around you know like she's a disc

1:15:00 she's a mirror ball she's a disco ball she's reflecting everybody off of her but when no one's around like who is she i have to amend my list and remove the one as an honorable mention thank you terrible thank you she's so good at shoe gaze it's the sound that fits her lyrical style and her vocal qualities so well when she was dead yeah like when that genre of like and i don't know like there weren't that many people holding on the floor and then she comes back in and i think there honestly has been this shift back to like i'm listening to the genre much more now absolutely you guys have to listen to axel hatch you have to listen to snail mail you guys have to listen to the girls snail mail is my life oh my god valentine's valentine's incredible did you hear the demo no so she has a demo and it's called [ __ ] i forgot it's a lyric from it was before she called it valentine or something and it's just

1:15:45 like she's such a genius and before the soundtrack of three months before it's all it's mostly queer yeah and but before we decided to make it 2011 or before to keep it period we had one notable exception snail mail was in there yeah json was in there snail mail is like i mean that album i've been wearing at the [ __ ] so you gotta listen it's called valentine by snail mail you will love it um [ __ ] i just gotta say i love the acoustic version of trouble in the movie it's thank you it's so beautiful thank you yes it's weird cuz like troy i wanted people to be invested in him as a caleb and i thought but you didn't want to distract with him singing the song i totally get it so i was like let's find some really doesn't sing over a picture no his version of the songs are at the end credits but i was like let's find some really cool queer artists for you to write these songs with and duet with so that they

1:16:34 can sing it over picture and json gave like the most beautiful acoustic intimate version of treble for that um fourth of july beach montage and gordy does wait at the end which makes matt cry it's matt's favorite part i love it the [ __ ] overhead beach shots how did you do that okay so the gag is it was supposed to be filmed on our last day in florida and as you know so you did shoot in florida for something we did so we did with atlanta and miami yeah so all of our exteriors mostly are miami and then our interiors were atlanta for the tax break money honey right that's kind of how we did fire island because because i was looking at i i was like oh i knew that they shot this in atlanta and i was going well the exteriors were giving me money it feels miami the whole and it was miami we really and even in the interiors i worked with my production designer katherine eater who's a genius to really

1:17:17 bring the feeling of florida inside you know art deco pastels um green you know plants and yeah and just that that sort of vibe but um yeah it was like i didn't want i didn't want people to be taken out because it was because it was troy right no i totally i i got that immediately i was like oh yeah this would be a completely different evocation if it was troy singing over troy yeah you know walking around but um god like i i specifically love you like giving us miami overcast oh honey well oh sorry the beach shot it was too windy we couldn't we couldn't shoot it there so we filmed this shot we do a plate which is basically where like you put troy on a green screen yes yes and a plate of his face shoot a plate of his face and then we farmed it out to the south africa unit we found this great production company in south africa and they filmed that shot on a beach south africa like directing and doing it like

1:18:14 over zoom and through emails to figure it out and then we superimposed it in post and it's sort of like a visual effect but for me that was something shannon and our dp who's like brilliant she um what else has she done she's done a movie called the third wife which she was nominated for an indie spirit award for she's a thai cinematographer who is just like just queer and just like incredible and i feel like caleb and dara's relationship in a weird way was mirrored by like shannon's relationship but um uh she's just so beautiful and that was in her lookbook when she like interviewed yeah that the concept of that shot and i was like oh my god we're going to steal that we're going to put it in

1:18:59 wow yeah again sort of like in a movie about time those shots were used to sort of like it's like my in to the lighthouse with virginia wool for like time passes and brackets and it's like a way to jump like those are my brackets that's my way to like pause one era of the film and jump on time and um yeah god just love it i mean everyone please go please see it right now and it's out today and basically what you do is you you download paramount plus and so it should show up as an icon on your tv and then you click it and really if you have drag race if if you like to watch drag race all stars you might already have the paramount plus app you go on there you're gonna be able to watch three months written and directed by jared freeder and starring troye sivan ellen burstin louis gossett jr i mean judy greer amy landecker who's also fantastic we haven't spent the time but like unreal so great brianne chu and

1:19:53 vivek calra what an amazing opportunity for you to watch a great film out there all the readers it is time to move on to i don't think so honey which is our one minute segment where we how do you say take 60 seconds to rant against something in culture that really deserves to be dragged the hell through the mud yeah and um i have something okay this is amazing what an amazing surprise this will be matt rodgers i don't think sony's time starts now i don't think so honey i was cut from three months basically i came in and i think what happened was i made such an impression in my screen time that they thought that they they thought you know jared and the filmmakers they were like basically everyone's gonna think now that this character comes like this actor is so searing on screen that they're gonna think oh he's like a new character in the movie they they thought like addison and montgomery but i think addison

1:20:53 montgomery vibe just like s montgomery shepherd they were like like we would have to only do it and there's not necessarily the money for that but basically like i was giving you arm i was giving you it was a really good arm day for me they dressed me well i actually brought my own a wardrobe to be honest with you oh and i was having a really amazing time on set ahead of amazing character with troy as the director has been admitted to and basically i think i was cut because i made too much of an impression and they hate it when like the star sort of gets blown away on camera by another actor yeah and sort of i think i came in and like did that and like maybe we'll work together in the future i don't know i'm available for projects going forward one minute can i just say i was so nervous about what i was gonna say for i don't think so honey because i was like i hope it's not too mean and now i'm

1:21:33 really excited no we're going there yeah and now i kind of want to i'm trying to think of something for me that i can get really personal not with anyone in the room but just i just want to say the character in the script was described as hot bartender danny and i was like i don't know jared and he was like no you should do it and i went down and did it and i skipped work and i went and did it only to be cut and it really hurt my heart because i knew how much i gave the film and i feel that you know it's really tough but i also know that life is very long and my career will be very long aren't you happy you got cast in a role where the character's name is literally hot danny like doesn't that make you feel good i guess i didn't do i didn't really do a great job oh my god i can't speak to this anymore you can't speak to this anywhere interesting okay it just hurts so much yeah i know but do who do you blame for

1:22:23 this jared for jared free to freedom freedom freedom okay um okay so this is bone yang's time now yang yeah do you have a topic here we go okay this is honey's time starts now i don't think so honey the movie three months being set in summer 2011 and there's not one mention of the album born this way by lady gaga dominating the cultural conversation at the time in a room full of queer people discussing their community why is lady gaga invisibilized crazy it's insane taylor swift exists in this universe but lady gaga does not stephanie german strasbourg don't disrespect gaga the only person you can call that hold a candle a boy smells candle to taylor swift herself now i need to see a version of i need to the listeners need to take screenshots of three minutes photoshop lady gaga and or a speech bubble if someone's saying my favorite track off of the album is government hooker and you have to follow five seconds

1:23:32 government hooker oh five seconds heavy metal lover her closest thing to an instrumental song amazing we love seeing gaga being pushing new directions i can't see what she does next in the year 2018. that's one minute it will be my dream coming true if people take screenshots of this movie and and their leaders are very activated they whenever we ask artists to draw a picture they draw a picture wow and we love them for it we love the readers can we stop and say we love the readers the publicist this is the readers and you might get rewarded very soon over the summer for something all i'm saying is clear your schedules your [ __ ] and the news readers are so dear to us and i want to if i could hug every single one of you i would i really would i really we love you so much and you and and you better put the speech bubble in for three months saying gaga stand um or else we don't love you anymore can you guys do

1:24:25 bloody mary which is like what i would have done what is my favorite from that up i think government hooker scheisse and heavy metal [ __ ] goes hard but also judas is like judas is a bad romance like yeah carbon copies that's so crazy i mean mary the night there's nothing that came out when i was driving the other night through the hills and i was like this is this song [ __ ] why didn't she get an oscar nomination for her 100-minute video i mean you and i you and i that that's such a good up edge of glory are you kidding me it's it's edge of life it's her best it's her best album i i would also say this a reader got in my dms always and basically confirmed that she is doing the top gun song oh that's cool she is doing like the big song technically top gun a reader got in my dms with intimate this is very dumbois of me but like a reader got in my dms with intimate knowledge of the fact that she has

1:25:20 already shot footage for a video at like an air force base sick yeah it's not going to be amazing she's going to she'll win in a second another one i mean come on with no bond moving out there's nothing i kind of i'm bummed that like billy ellis is just going to kind of walk to this hospital she's not it's going to be lynn i think really do you think so i think that bruno is such a huge song right now and even though that's not the official submission because bruno took off after they had already had to submit the song i think people want to reward him he should have never lost for that moana song which is one of the greatest i want songs in the desert of stars from la la land oh how embarrassing is so terrifying and i know i i mean like i love pasik and paul and i just want to say i i genuinely love pasek and paul sure i just think that was not i actually thought that um audition full full dream was stronger

1:26:10 than city of stars and had that song won i would have been like sleigh and a half how fast it is the best part of your world i completely agree i completely agree yeah but all amazing songs but like lynn deserves billy also deserves but i think he'll i don't know if billy deserves an oscar for that song she's so talented but then i guess he will win one someday yeah for sure if not for this and something else for sure yeah all right so i guess we've got to the point where it's jared fritters i don't think so honey i think i have some sort of idea of what he might do because um this is jared friedrich i don't think sonya's time starts now i don't think so honey matt rogers telling me he was in love with me for the first time on this here podcast instead of in person that's right readers in a benito skinner episode he was like oh i think i might love jared but i don't know how to say it yet all of a sudden i get texts from

1:26:59 friends from back home being like did you hear that your boyfriend's too scared to tell you he loves you in person so he's saying it on his podcast i was like what you're not carrie bradshaw girl talk to me in person brown vulnerability is important and you just never told me in person and so then i had to be the one to say it first it was just like against my room that's not that's not true i did say it first well i mean saying it on a podcast doesn't count matthew sorry for this problem right now but how dare you tell your beloved readers before you actually tell me the person they're the masters you know jane has never forgiven you for this because it was a traumatic event jane loves me more than you okay first of all how dare you second of all that's probably true anyway anyway anyway uh i'm glad you readers got the first scoop for that the exclusive because i was not and that's one minute wow can i say it

1:27:45 that's wrong because i did say that to you and then you were caught off guard by it and didn't say it back and then three days later you were like hey by the way i love you no no no no no no liza minnelli lies matt absolutely not you might have shared too much on the podcast not too much but you you classic you you made it you made it a strange situation when we broke up i was like matt i just asked that you don't talk about my podcast weeks later i get a message from someone on grindr on grindr being like i heard you hey huge fan of your ex-boyfriend's podcast heard you guys broke up oh can i say something i gave it several weeks and then i was like and i just want to tell everyone because they know my life and i don't want to lie to them i was just like jared and i did break up everything's fine you know what the dark side of the moon really is most of your grinder messages being about the fact that

1:28:38 they're fans of your ex-boyfriend that's the dark side don't respond i don't respond that's his iceberg yeah that's my iceberg it's just like oh i love lost cultures and i was like i don't have nothing to respond to this well now you now you do have something to do with it because you're on exactly you're on the pod now so now you're actually in the lcd promoting you're you're a wonderful movie are you going to make your instagram not private now it's not private yeah oh so anyone can follow you unfortunately that's not unfortunate yeah yeah they see lots of wonderful pictures of james who likes me more than jared that's it because that's because jane thinks i'm a dog yeah he thinks i play with jane like i'm a dog and so she thinks i am one and she responds to me different than other people but in typical matte fashion he'll play with her he's the most fun person in the room he'll rile her up and

1:29:29 then she'll get too excited and he'll turn to me and be like do something about this and i'm like i mean really jane is one of the most beautiful dogs and did i ever tell you i sent a picture like when we were dating i sent a picture of jane to my my parents and my dad responded and he was like jane is like greta garbo jane is she has old heart i said audrey hepburn yeah you said audrey hebert yesterday that's true she has this like really grand not granddad just like beautiful classic classic hollywood she is beautiful so she's 28. she's 28 giving scholar to hera she's giving it she's scarlet she's serving she's trained jane is serving puss and whenever joel talks mean about jane can you want to speak to this do you speak to this jewel kim booster um one of your closest friends one of my closest friends how i met matthew it's how i met bowen so jared is extremely close friends with joel kim lewis

1:30:24 jared is close to joel in a way that like is is on a deeper level in some ways than me that's because jared was joel's l.a best yes yes that's how i met jared i mean this is really dark but when the pulse shooting happened was the day that i met joel and i could like because i'm from florida and i like knew people who knew people who were lost so like i could not go to the carly rae jefferson concert that night and we hope because i was too distraught and i gave joel my tickets and became best friends um but joel uh while he is one of the greatest funniest most talented people on planet earth he literally hates my dog and i think it's because he knows that she's a star and she the camera he says things to say about greta's dog tiny which is that she's too small to be a dog i was like i think that you're trying to do funny comedy and it's rude and he said the other day that jane is skinny and needy like him like him and

1:31:18 so that's why he's jealous he's jealous of jane he's jealous he has jealousy he's jealous also jane is obsessed with john michael joel's boyfriend and i think that that also has driven a wedge between jane and joel wow well john michael maybe she thinks that he's me uh yeah what's going on well what a beautiful episode i loved this episode and i would love to say how proud i am of you thank you man because i saw firsthand how much it was to go through this and just the film is very beautiful and what i always tried to tell you the whole time is while it was difficult the entire time like making an indie movie like this like what's really important is how people are going to be moved and affected by it and the fact is that people don't have this movie but now they do thank you and so that's worth all of it and it will open and already has opened so many doors and like i just i'm so excited for you and so

1:32:17 proud of you thank you and every reader and fan should know that like matt was my lifeline during this entire process and makes me very emotional to talk about and um he's funny but also a great person as is bowen and this is like a dream come true to be on this podcast oh my god we're so happy to have you and please stream in three months which is out on paramount plus today it's so exciting and listen to the songs on spotify uh wait and trouble watch and watch the video and just celebrate and support this movie you guys because we're we don't get them it will be you know that you do it really will be meaningful that you do watch it just on an individual level not to be full individualist here but like it will be meaningful that you watch it and take something away from it you know that you haven't seen it and you will love it and i just i'm just saying it's there for you now and how cool that you know it's just

1:33:11 right there at your fingertips to be able to watch and what an amazing thing that you even got it made like so many people it's like you said like for queer films for queer art like it's so hard and as taylor swift says in the one the best films are never made and i'll leave you guys with that and live with that and you know we do end every episode with a song listen for the best my reputation is a little worse so humans like

1:33:54 bye

Questions about this episode

What is discussed in "Uncertainty The Haus Down - (w_ Jared Frieder)"?

In order: 0:00 Jared Frieder, Three Months, Amy Landecker, Judy Greer; 10:00 Three Months, Fire Island, Ari Matthew; 20:00 Troye Sivan, Ari Matthew, Three Months; 30:00 Ari Matthew, Claude Shannon, Judy Greer; 40:00 Ari Matthew, Claude Shannon, Jared Frieder, Katrina; 50:00 Ari Matthew; 1:10:00 Three Months, Amy Landecker, Brianne Chu, Claude Shannon; 1:20:00 Three Months, Lady Gaga, Ari Matthew; 1:30:00 Ari Matthew, Three Months.

What is mentioned in this Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang episode?

26 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Three Months, Ari Matthew, Caleb, My Cousin Vinny, Troye Sivan, Dave Troy. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Uncertainty The Haus Down - (w_ Jared Frieder)"?

The episode runs 1 h 34 min; the transcript is about 19,265 words in 109 timestamped sections.

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