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Last Update on the Left Video /// The Unabomber

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Last Update on the Left Video /// The Unabomber", an episode of Last Podcast On The Left published December 25, 2025 (53 min, about 10,867 words). It mentions 51 people, works and ideas, including Timothy McVeigh, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Ramzi Yousef, September 11 attacks (9/11), Richard Ramirez.

What this episode is about

The discussion centers around Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, exploring his lifestyle, dietary habits while living in isolation, and the psychological fascination with serial killers in prison. The conversation blends humor and insightful commentary about Kaczynski’s choices and the broader implications of his actions in the context of industrial society.

Key takeaways

  • Why trust in-laws when even serial killers eat their words? Trust but verify, people!
  • Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber foraged roots but hated pretzels—'industrial society' was his Achilles' heel.
  • Prison turns serial killers into small-time entrepreneurs; John Wayne Gacy's painting factory is exhibit A.
  • Industrial society criticism aside, Kaczynski's recipe for life was mostly roots, not violence.
  • True crime: from thrilling stories to post-incarceration obscurity. The transition is stark, yet rarely explored.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Richard Ramirez
  2. – 10:00: Alcatraz of the Rockies, Florence, Colorado, Paul Bettany, Terry Nichols
  3. – 15:00: Into the Wild, Pony Express
  4. – 25:00: Jeff Ross
  5. – 30:00: Durst family, The Jinx
  6. – 35:00: Annie Hall, Harvard University, Scientology
  7. – 40:00: Greg Hickey, Bonnie and Clyde, Heritage Auctions, John Dillinger
  8. – 45:00: Butner, North Carolina, Central Park Five, Dr. Reginald Tiny, Federal Medical Center, Butner
  9. – 50:00: Chicago Tylenol murders, Chong Ki Chong, Harvard University, Last Prisoner Project

Notable quotes from "Last Update on the Left Video /// The Unabomber"

  • True. Because I think it's actually fascinating what a lot of these guys do behind bars. Because Richard Ramirez, perfect example, once he got knitting and knitting, well…
    about Richard Ramirez · at
  • An entire series on Ted Kazinski. You can go watch the television series where I bet I believe Paul Bettany played him.
    about Paul Bettany · at
  • Yeah. Supermax United States Penitentiary Administ Administrative Maximum Facility in Florence, Colorado.
    about Florence, Colorado · at
  • Right before Timothy McVey got [ __ ] elfed by the state. He [ __ ] gave him a copy and smuggled in a copy of Into the Wild for Ted Kazinski.
    about Into the Wild · at
  • Yeah. Yeah. It's like the first crime they saw since someone killed a horse during the Pony Express.
    about Pony Express · at
  • Mean, you spent a little a tiny bit of time in jail, but for prison, you spent a lot of time with Jeff Ross for the prison roast.
    about Jeff Ross · at
  • His Harvard undergrad diploma and University of Michigan PhD diploma that was sold. I don't have a price for that one. Wow. but the handwritten rough draft of his manifesto.
    about Harvard University · at
  • But yeah, all this sold through the John through Heritage Auctions. this guy John Hickey said that the collectors he said guys certainly over 40 and maybe 50 and fairly…
    about Greg Hickey · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

Books & papers

Companies & orgs

Products & tech

  • Moog synthesizer — Product · 1 mention · first at
    That was like this level of price and like this, but they were selling the Moog synthesizer that they you that David Bowie used on Ziggy Stardust for $20,000.
  • Legos — Product · 1 mention

Concepts & topics

  • September 11 attacks (9/11) — Concept · 3 mentions
  • Iraq War (2003 invasion of Iraq) — Concept · 2 mentions
  • Alcatraz of the Rockies — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Affectionately known as the Alcatraz of the Rockies.
  • The Jinx — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Ted's a problem. I've been rewatching the Jinx season 2 and I feel like in that scenario, it's like what the rest of the family, but the rest of the Durst family has to deal with Robert. Obviously, they've been trying.
  • Durst family — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Like in that scenario, it's like what the rest of the family, but the rest of the Durst family has to deal with Robert. Obviously, they've been trying to help him recover up […
  • Annie Hall — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Talk about not separating the art the artist. So, I got to go break my Annie Hall DVD. But all these mathematicians are all [ __ ] using Ted Kazinsk's work. I hate Annie Hall. I don't even like any hall, but still.
  • Central Park Five — Concept · 1 mention · first at
  • Chicago Tylenol murders — Concept · 1 mention · first at
    Yeah. That's what they were trying to at the very end they thought that they because the Chicago Tylenol murders in which I forgot how many people seven people and it was the basically yeah they poisoned a bunch of Tylenol at.
  • Heisman Trophy — Concept · 1 mention

Places & events

Full transcript with timestamps

There's no place to escape to. This is the last time on the left. That's when the cannibalism started.

Ah, you [ __ ] pigs. Not a piece of [ __ ] My problem with my peanut butter takes longer.

You're a good man. You're a good man. Oh, we can start. This is all part of the show.

You're a good man. It's just you don't have to do this. The last Yeah, that's Ed Larson.

Yeah, it is. He started it. How you doing? And he said before we began, he was like, I've got three more pretzels you're going to eat. I need my pretzels. I'm eating my pretzels. We talk about THE UNI BOMBER.

TED Kazinski would want me to have these pretzels. NO, HE WOULDN'T. NO, he absolutely would not because those pretzels are a product of industrial society, man.

What he eat? [ __ ] rocks. Yes. Rocks and sticks and frogs and birds. Birds. What did he eat though?

You know what? He whatever he found, he was a a forager. He he was a largely a vegetarian. I actually was just reading about this because of his time in prison. He was a vegetarian. He would go and he would source roots and stuff. He wasn't eating well. He'd also go into town.

He didn't look great. Uh, no. He would go into town, I think, once every couple of months, and he would get stuff like rice and stuff like that's what he mostly ate. Yeah.

He wasn't a big eater. He was very, very skinny. This is the last update in the left.

Mhm. Uh, and we came together today to talk into microphones. Yeah. About how you should never [ __ ] TRUST YOUR IN-LAWS, MAN. GOD, [ __ ] IT. YOUR BROTHER'S GOING TO SELL YOU OUT.

[ __ ] IT. HE KNOWS YOUR DUMB [ __ ] PHRASES MAN. UM, but we wanted to cover an update on I've always been fascinated with the life of serial killers in jail.

Yeah. Cuz I don't I don't know what it is. I think it's cuz like the more you get into a true crime, I think I am to true crime what you are to music now, Marcus. Okay. where you like you like music so much that now the music you listen to is stuff like cluck cluck cluck cluck like a man making the words of the sound of a chicken

I need to I need to introduce you to Carl Hind stockous and there's this piece called himn it's only like you know 54 minutes long

yeah and it's just like and then you can hear that they've left the microphones on for a while they've left they've gone to lunch you hear them all like sneaking and they're all like doing and speaking in German. You hear them like clinking.

Actually, that did happen on a can song called Elm uh where a child like wandered in uh to the room while they're recording and she screams and there's a dog barking at one point.

But again, can makes it funky. That's what they do. They [ __ ] they do it well.

But I am now into the true crime sphere where I'm not it's not bored just by the crimes themselves. I love the crimes. Love the crimes. And I love researching about the criminals, but I'm fascinated about the fact that like once serial killers go into the [ __ ] closet once they're in jail, we largely don't pay attention to them. We And I think that like as people that are consumers of true crime, you kind of forget that they even exist cuz they went away. And you're like, "Oh, the part that was interesting is over." But no, that's not true. Because I think it's actually fascinating what a lot of these guys do behind bars. Because Richard Ramirez, perfect example, once he got knitting and knitting and knitting and knitting, well, Robert Richard Ramirez, he would go and he created sort of like a loose sort of cult following after his time in jail where he'd get, let me tell you about this, I got an idea. Day stalking

and during the day it takes place from 9:00 to 5:00. I day stalk an office each day. I have to be there at 8:45. I have an hour I'm allowed to lunch stalk some salad. You'd be surprised after you don't have access to introvenous cocaine anymore just how exhausting nightstalking is.

You wouldn't even believe I coffee is not doing it. 5hour energy drink isn't doing it. But he started a matinea.

He talked about he created like a little cult where he had these little incel dudes where they would write letters. They would fantasize about what they would all wish they could do to women together. He would they would send him like pornography, but he kind of had this like crew. John Wayne Gasey. Yeah. He used people like Herbert Mullen. Like he used fellow lower level serial killers to do his grunt work from inside of prison. John Wayne Gasey would have them paint his paintings for him. He had a whole production system where he had like other famous serial killers when I believe one of the Chicago Rippers was another one of them that they would paint his paintings for him. But today we wanted to hit upon a guy that we lost too soon.

Ted Kazinski. We lost him. God, I miss him. I believe we lost him at the young young age of 81.

Wow. I don't I my compass. He was Is it 81? If you have stage four rectile cancer, is it suicide? I don't know.

So, let's talk about it. Let's talk. I mean, Ted Kazinski killed three people, injured 23 over the course of God, what 30 years, 20 years, something like that.

When you look over this season of crimes, he is also known as the you love him, you miss him, the uni bomber.

He was an entirely incorrect domestic terrorist. Now, this is he is fine. That's the problem with him is that like you read industrial society and its future now and you're like, well,

you know, there's some bad stuff in there. The Spanish crimes, it was uh 17 years. It was from 1978 to 1995.

Wow. You did that math in your head like that? You can look at 78 to 95 and you can just be like, that's 17.

What I do is I subtract back. I subtract back. I take five away from 90. I get to 90 and then I go to the number, right? I had to get to a zero and then I add back the old number.

Wow. You know, Ted Kazinski hated math. No, it's the opposite. No, he was good at it, but he hated it. He said it was boring.

Well, he was he said it's I'm not going to stay in college playing games. Well, it's because he got his mind destroyed by MK Ultra.

But what's incredible is that one of his papers that he published while he was studying math is still used today. It's still cited. Yes.

Like it's a it was a revolutionary paper. The man was an absolute genius. And so did you know we're gonna we did an entire series on Ted Kazinski. You can go watch the television series where I bet I believe Paul Bettany played him.

Paul B. Did you watch it? Uh yes, I did a little bit for when the last time we were doing some update. I think it was when he died. I was watching that series. It's bad. I liked it.

He's too sexy. I know it was Paul Bettton. It was He's definitely skinny. Yes, he's definitely skinny. He's not skinny enough.

Ted Kazinski. Paul Bettney is obviously eating 100 milligrams of protein every day. He has abs. Ted Kazinski should be He's shaped like a rigetony. Like Ted Kazinski is not supposed He has no muscle definition. Paul Bettney's out there. He's got the [ __ ] gutters. He's got [ __ ] He looks good with the scraggle beard.

He does play a robot. He does. But yeah, there was that move and that made him look kind of sexy.

It made him look I mean, it definitely didn't do it made him look far sexier and and far more appealing than he really was. As far as a TV show goes, Manhunt pretty good. It Yeah, it was good. So, he got pulled out of a shed in Montana because he

I saw The Shed. You ever see The Shed? Yes, we'll talk about Let's get there. Yeah, we'll get there. Um, he got pulled out of a shed in Montana largely because his brother caught him because I believe that he had used the phrase, "You can have your cake and eat it too."

He said, "You can eat your cake and have it too." And it was a mistake, right? Like he [ __ ] up the phrase, which is how his brother recognized him from his letters to the police and his manifesto because he said this phrase. And so he got picked up. So now, like, we know that he was arrested. One thing that when he was picked up is that he was so smelly that some of the OFFICERS VOMITED.

WOW. HE'S a smelly so impressive smelly boy. Uh and now we pick up for our update episode while he's [ __ ] sitting his kester ass in [ __ ] Supermax prison.

Yeah. Supermax United States Penitentiary Administ Administrative Maximum Facility in Florence, Colorado. Affectionately known as the Alcatraz of the Rockies.

Oh wow. And he had a lot of buddies there. Yep. Got a Dozar Zarv, the Boston bomber.

The guy looks like Nick Turner. Yeah. 9/11 conspirator Zacharias Mousowl. Uh Terry Nichols is still there.

Oh, wow. Yeah. Uh from the Oklahoma City bombing. Wow. What a fun cast. Yeah. Robert Hansen, the FBI agent turned Soviet spy. He's still there.

Oo, that could be interesting. Uh Ramy Yousef. Ramsey Yousef. Rammy Yousef is Yeah. Yeah. Ramy's great.

Yeah. Ramy's a nice guy. I like Ramy. I don't think he's in death row with [ __ ] dead.

Yeah. Ramsey Yousef. Uh yeah. The guy that was behind the first World Trade Center bombing allegedly. That's what cuz Tim because that's the thing.

The guy who tried to get his money back. Yeah. Like Ted No, not that. Yes. Yes. The guy who tried to get his money back.

Um because Yeah. Ted Kazinski did get to know all these guys, including Timothy McVey until Timothy McVey was executed in Oklahoma. All these guys knew each other. They all hung out together. And Tech Kazinski, he always made sure to say like

allegedly the mastermind behind the World Trade the first World Trade Center bomb.

Yes. He believed him. He also was really really close with Timothy McVey. Yeah. And they would they would send writings back and forth and they got to be very friendly with each other. And I I forgot one of the things that he sent him that was like wild to me.

Was it the books that they sent between each other? The books that they sent back and forth. Would they talk bombs?

I'm sure it came up. Oh, yes. Yeah. I'm sure they because Ted was all about the small bombs and Tim was about all the big ones.

Yeah. Now these letters are all read before they reach the other person. Not always. These actually these letters were smuggled uh in between like they were, you know, privately between, you know, attorneys or other inmates or paid off uh prison guards, you know, like not all of these. Yeah. These letters between these guys uh were definitely not read by other people. They were only discovered later or, you know, or Ted Kazinski saying like, "Yeah, I got this letter from Timothy. This is what we discussed. Here it is."

Yes. The book that they got was to he uh gave him a book. Timothy McVey gave Ted Kazinski a book called Tainting Evidence Inside the Scandals at the FBI crime lab. And he was like it was incredible because it was all about problems inside of the FBI and corruption inside of the FBI. He loved it cuz Ted Kazinski [ __ ] hates the FBI. And then uh but he said when he was really touched was right before Timothy McVey got [ __ ] elfed by the state. He [ __ ] gave him a copy and smuggled in a copy of Into the Wild for Ted Kazinski.

Oh, really? Yeah. And Ted Kazinski just loved it. Well, I guess it makes sense. He would love it

because he spent most of his time living in the woods. And so it is interesting. So he's in this supermax prison, 23 hours a day. There's only one slit of light that goes in the ceiling, right? They have a little patch in the ceiling that they're allowed to look out because they can't even see the mountains. He's in the mountains of the Rockies. They're not allowed to see any of the Rockies just in case you can triangulate your position, okay, and communicate to people. They've never had anybody escape from this supermax prison. And but they said that Ted Kazinski

absolutely loves it. He doesn't like the He said the food's not bad. He said some of the problems mostly been getting vegetables. And he said largely it was because he went from living in the shack to moving into the supermax prison. And he loves his cell.

Yeah. The cell was bigger than the shack. He loves it. You saw the shack. I saw the shack. It was at the museum. They had it which is now gone,

unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. Which it great museum. You went. Did you go? I wasn't able to go, but no, I heard it was 200 It was $300 million in debt and they had to shut it down.

Yeah. Yeah. They didn't have a chance. Stop bitting against the museum. No one was there. Um but the uh but they did have the shack downstairs. But oddly enough, when I went there the same day, uh you can like look in it and stuff. It was pretty cool. But on the same day, I was bored and had nothing to do in DC and I just like walked into the post office museum and they had a huge uh Ted Kazinski and Zim talking about this like the post office uses the Ted Kazinski like the uniomber story BEING LIKE, "YEAH, WE DO [ __ ] TOO."

YEAH, WE [ __ ] GOT THIS PIECE OF [ __ ] They're like, "This is the postm's badge and gun that was there on the day of the

[ __ ] It's dangerous to be a mailman, too. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the first crime they saw since someone killed a horse during the Pony Express.

Do you know they used the cabin? The reason why was that they airlifted the cabin up and out during the trial. It's because his defense team wanted to use the physical cabin as his like the evidence that Ted Kazinski was completely insane because he was literally just he was collecting his scat. He was doing all this [ __ ] because he didn't want anybody to know that he was out there. So, he was just like he was literally just sitting on buckets of his own fedded rotting duke and um it was bad in there and then no toilet.

Yeah, dude. Well, he had a hole. Oh, okay. That he opened up and pissed and [ __ ] into and then closed it back up again. And I'm sure that took care of the smell.

Someone who's so smart. How did he not get plumbing? He wasn't. It's very difficult to do plumbing. Ask Rob. You could be an expert on a lot of things and being a plumber is extremely difficult.

Oh man. So that guy was surrounded by two types of logs. Anytunes.com. Yeah. The uh the cabin where he lived for god 23 years. Like it was so he would just sit there

in silence so still that there was an outline of his body on the wall from the soot that came from his wood burning stove. Damn.

And they could even find they could even find like where he like sat because the oils in his body had seeped into the wood so much.

Wow. Like footprints. Did he not even have a chair? No, he had a chair. But you know, you're sitting on the chair and you're sitting your feet are down on the ground, your feet coming. Yeah. But no, it's his oils. His very essence is still in that [ __ ] cabin.

Can you imagine that? Just [ __ ] the the oil from your feet skin staining the wood. That's how much your feet your dirty feet have been in one place for so long. Like that one girl they found with the one that was one that was attached to the couch.

They found a lot of people like that. Oh yeah. The person attached to the toilet. Remember that? And then they cut the toilet off her. Now the um Yeah. I'm surprised he never blew himself up because one of the things that was interesting to me is he wasn't really a great bomb maker.

He wasn't great at having them go off or at least he wasn't great at having them make as big of a boom as he wanted. Yeah.

Um and I think that's why he never blew himself up because he was so careful. Uh he knew that he knew what he didn't know and he would rather risk the bomb not going off as big as he wanted it to rather than experiment with bigger and bigger bombs. Makes sense.

Yeah. So that's why it's 23 maimed and three killed instead of 28 killed. But he had a piece that none of us will ever understand. I love this quote from him when he talked about when he was living in the woods and what that time like was like for him. When I was living in the woods, there was an underlying feeling that things were basically right with my life. That is, I might have a bad day. Might screw something up, but I was a free man in the mountains, surrounded by forests and wild animals. Here, it's the other way around. I'm not depressed or downcast, and I have things I can do that I consider productive, like getting on working on my book. And yet, the knowledge that I'm locked up here and likely to remain so for the rest of my life, it ruins it. And I don't want to live long. I'd rather get the death penalty than spend the rest of my life in prison. Oh well, it really turns it really goes on a dime there.

This is great. He'd always talk about how peaceful the woods were, but it's like you're sitting there TRYING TO KILL PEOPLE.

THAT'S WHAT was peaceful. What was peaceful? It's like all the birds like building your bomb like just sitting there being like, "Oh, I like to I normally like to pile my gasoline near the river so I can hear it babble like as he's like building a pipe bomb while two squirrel like he's feeding squirrels."

Yeah. I mean, in the Supermax prison, the biggest complaint that he had was that the hamburgers were overcooked. Yeah.

Says, "Today again, I received an undercooked hamburger." Like some other inmates, I refuse to eat undercooked hamburgers. Undercooked meat can transmit diseases. For example, salmonella and tapeworm. Yet, we often get undercooked hamburgers.

Shut up, TED. SHUT THE LIVING [ __ ] UP BEFORE I BASH YOUR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL, TED. YOU'RE GOING TO GET WHAT YOU GET. YOU'RE THE UNIB.

YEAH. How good are the hamburgers in the [ __ ] WOODS? SHUT UP, TED. YEAH, EXACTLY. When the last time you [ __ ] handed him WHEN WAS THE LAST time you ran across a hamburger tree? Did you GO TO THE TACO BELL RAVINE? What are you [ __ ] talking about? No, I love what a former inmate at the Supermax said about him. He called him just a [ __ ] weird little guy. He said that he wouldn't even go outside even when he was

he had an hour long He has hourong of recess every day and he wouldn't take Yeah. All of them have an hour long out and it's like it's outside and the fact that you're just not in your cell anymore. Like there's no grass. It's just another concrete room with Sky, you know, a concrete room with no roof and a pull-up bar and that's it.

Yeah, but they [ __ ] you gota who you got to hang out with, you know, with Nicholls like

Yeah, HE WAS HAVING A GREAT TIME WITH RAMSEY YOUSEF. He was having a great time with Timothy McVey. He would play I believe he played chess with Siran Sirhan as well.

Sir, he was with Manson. He was with Manson, but I believe they did male chess. Oh, I believe they would do like the the most boring.

Is that all bishops? Well, yeah. Kazinski I mean his time in Supermax like it it's kind of incredible to think that like cuz you know solitary confinement is torture, you know? It's absolute 100% torture. Uh and it's incredible to think that somebody could actually thrive in those conditions. He was just so every interview that he gave when he was in Supermax. So serene, so calm, so confident.

Well, he was in isolation the entire time. Better. They should have put him in Gen Pop.

Now that would have been absolute torture for him. He would have been d Well, it's it's funny. Yeah, cuz it's like in prison I feel as an extrovert, prison would be hard for me because

they don't like funny guys. Well, yeah, cuz I feel that my natural cuz that's what he's always said like if I ever go to prison like I'm just going to be the funny guy.

I've learned I've learned that that is not a good person to be in prison. A lot of times it makes you uh it's you're calling for attention that maybe you don't want to get.

Mhm. And you're so stabable, too. Yeah. Oh, extremely. I just like I just being LIKE I JUST WANT IT'S don't we want to be I'm like the personality hire for the prison. Like don't we just want to have fun with it guys? Come on guys. Let's think about the vibe, you know? It's schedule Fridays. But the great thing is that he's got so much loose skin is if he got slashed and they probably wouldn't hit any organs.

They would go for the organs. They'd know. They know how to kill. I'm not worried about them finding my organs. But I feel that. Yes. So as an extrovert, it would be difficult. But also

director. Oh, absolutely. KICKBALL, NOT MY BALLS. UH BUT I uh you know but also as a person that does need to recharge. I would find that prison would be sort of difficult for me mentally because it would be so hard to have your private time too where like Ted Kazinski at least he gets a lot of that. That's got to be cuz like they don't like a funny guy. He's not funny. Yeah.

So he must get along great. It's like how I was reading about how Bernie Maid off people loved him in jail. They called him the dawn.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like he goes around like they give him [ __ ] Well, cuz he robbed a bunch of rich people

and then he does everybody's taxes. Yeah. And uh speaking of which, Bernie Maid off and Ted Kazinski died in the same prison hospital within a month OF EACH OTHER.

WHOA. YEAH. Isn't that nice? Just two ships that pass. But it's like Ted Kazinski must really love like he was perfectly suited for this. He's far away from everybody. He's not allowed to build his bombs anymore. I mean, I feel like it also be nice to kind of give him a couple things where he could fake build some bombs.

Where's Legos? Yeah. Yeah, that'd be fun. I feel like he'd do something dangerous with Legos.

So, Ed, you said that he funny guys don't do well in prison. No. Like, I mean, you you spent a little a tiny bit of time in jail, but for prison, you spent a lot of time with Jeff Ross for the prison roast.

Yeah. But that was in jail. That was That was in jail as well. That also was Brad's County Jail.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, that's why some of the people were murderers because they hadn't finished their trials yet.

Yes. Yeah. So they were but yeah. So they have soon be they've since been convicted.

All right. Did funny do do funny guys do well in jail? I feel like jail's fine cuz everyone's getting out. Like when my time in jail I only got like one joke off but I was also very depressed.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You shouldn't be. So it was like it was I think if I was there another week I probably would have been funnier. But yeah, if you really knew the may of a land you could find out what all the guys like what impressions everybody got. Yeah. I definitely didn't shower the whole time I was there. like I'm going to hold off as long as possible on this one.

I was able to get out without one. So that was nice. I do feel Email me to know this for certain side story is lpotlgmail.com. But I do think that well well we know about Ted Kazinski that he's a stinky boy.

Yeah. Right. You know I know that he he does shower twice a week. He says he has sensitive skin. So they allow him to shower more I believe.

Well he actually showered less. Is it less? He showered less than he was allowed. You didn't like showering?

Wow. Wow. No way. I don't really like it either. But yeah, but you shower. Yeah, I have to.

Yes, cuz you're a functioning member of society. You do it afterwards. Yeah, I love showering.

It's like stretching. It sucks while you're doing it, but as soon as you're done, you're like,

I love showering and stretching. I love [ __ ] I love showering and stretching. Wish I could do it all at once.

Massive inconveniences all three. I wish I could [ __ ] and shower at the same time.

I definitely stretch and [ __ ] My [ __ ] that is. But he was like, but I do think that there is a prison etiquette when it comes to smell.

Yeah. Well, if you stink too much, he'll beat the [ __ ] out. That's what I'm thinking is that if you don't like I think that he probably must be in solitary confinement. I mean, he's [ __ ] dead now.

At least isolation. Yes. He would have to be away from everybody cuz he's smelly.

Yeah. Well, he's he might also be a naturally smelly person. Oh, yeah. Or just have a musk that's just baked in.

Absolutely. Can you imagine what his balls were like? I bet they were fun. The um now did he ever kiss anybody?

Kazinski. Yeah. Remember there was the girl that he Well, I don't Yeah, he remember he was working with his brother like he got out of college. He

had Kazinski practicing kissing on his hand. Mr. and Mrs. Kazinski. Mr. and Mrs. Angela Basset Kazinski hyphen it. Yeah, cuz he uh was working with his brothers like at his brother's company and he went on a couple of dates at this girl and she broke it off and so he retaliated by leaving all of these like these like very mean notes about her all over the company and the brother thankfully his brother came in early that day and was able to remove all the notes before everyone saw him and then he fired his he fired Ted and that was I think the last time that he saw him uh until and they communicated through letters like here and there.

So, I'm so happy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He must have been so happy to fire his brother.

A Oh, man. It had to have been horrible. Ted's a problem. I You know, I've been rewatching the Jinx season 2 and I feel like in that scenario, it's like what the rest of the family, but the rest of the Durst family has to deal with with Robert. Obviously, they've been trying to help him recover up [ __ ] but mostly they just wish he'd [ __ ] disappear, you know, like just being like,

"We are really sick of dealing with Robert." Ted's a problem. I think Ted's a problem.

Yeah, Ted's Yeah, cuz that's You say never trust your in-laws is that like Ted was definitely a problem to his brother's wife

24/7. Yeah. Always been like, "Does Ted have to come to Christmas?" Yeah. Well, cuz he hated her without the meeting and like for some reason. Well, because he was probably in love with his brother.

I think it's he's I just didn't think he liked the ladies all too much. There's like that butthole surfer song. I am not impressed with my brother's wife. Yeah, it's not. And I'm not saying that he was like, not that he didn't like them sexually. I just don't think he enjoyed probably the asexual spectrum. And I don't think he enjoyed a lady.

I don't think he enjoyed anybody. No, he was not. Well, no. I he liked he liked environmental terrorists.

I think he loved Timothy McVey. Yeah, him and Timothy McVey got along famously.

They really did get along well. Like we're not joking about that. Like him and Timothy McVey really got along well. like genuine friends. Uh because again, you know, like it's like I like to talk to comedians because they get me.

They are the two most famous bombers. I guess I don't know if I'd put it that way. I'd say Osama bin Laden's still number one.

But would you really consider him a bomber though? I would. I wouldn't. Well, I'd consider him a friend and a family member and it's somebody I really look up to. But but I also view him as a bomber. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I would I wouldn't say he's a bomber, Ed. I mean, uh, I mean, he definitely set off he had people set off bombs, but I don't think he ever built one.

He's an exe he's an executive producer. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But, yeah, he's not in the act. He's not He's not sitting there with the screwdriver and the sand and the whatever.

He came up with the idea. So, you consider 9/11 to be a bombing. There was a lot of gasoline.

I would say it's a bombing by plane. They used the plane as if it was a bomb. Yeah.

I would say they used it more as a missile. That does a bomb. Nope. Yep. Nope. Yes.

This could go on for hours. The I'm typing that into Google. A missile is not a bomb.

I think we need to ask King Koopa because he had these missiles. This is only This is only correct because this is the most pedantic [ __ ] condescending thing. The only reason why it's correct is because yes, bombs are considered stationary. Missiles do travel, but they both blow up. So [ __ ] if you throw a bomb, it's a missile.

Yeah, but no one leaves a missile on the subway. Not yet. Not one that we don't You don't think that they haven't tried?

EXCUSE ME. I HAVE LITTLE SHAPED BAGS. THIS IS MY EMOTIONAL SUPPORT MISS. ACTUALLY, Ted Kazinski did have he had some feelings about 9/11. He had he had opinions.

Oh, yeah. Well, he was mad that I guess partially that he didn't do it most. Well, it was more like he had opinions about the invasion of Iraq, the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Yeah. You know, supported it. He supported Saddam Hussein could not go around willy-nilly making nuclear weapons.

I don't think all these petty little dictators around the world should be allowed to develop nuclear weapons.

Yes. So, he was anti-Saddam Hussein. He is a bomb expert. Yes. He's We have to like listen to it unfortunately.

Yes. He felt reasonably sure that the politicians motivations for invading Iraq had more to do with their own egos and their own drive for power than any unselfish desire to prevent the harm that Saddam might do with his weapons programs.

See, again, oddly correct. But then he also said though, which is also funny, is that he offered to vote he wanted to vote for Bush because he said apart from he said that one thing that Bush was doing was was he is opposed to stem cell research which he supported.

IT WAS ALL OF ENVIRONMENT. He hated IT. THAT'S HIS WHOLE THING. HE DIDN'T WANT IT. Didn't want Well, he said that he wanted to vote for Bush simply because he figured the re-election of an incompetent president and his irresponsible gang will help weaken the American system.

Oh, okay. So, he's talking Bush. He's doing the first carry. Yeah, dude. He's doing dirt bag left.

Yeah. I'll teach Biden a lesson. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. He's doing that whole [ __ ]

Okay. So, he probably voted for Gore. No, he wasn't. He was already in prison. He was already I don't think he voted. I think the last time he voted was like 1972.

I don't think he's a big voter. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that walking down the dirt road [ __ ] stinking a mile away.

No, he's not registered to vote. Yeah, dude. The idea of like he doesn't have a driver's license. He doesn't [ __ ] I to be honest, I don't think he's allowed inside of like a like a domestic government building. But he was a professor at Berkeley.

Yeah. For a short period of time. For a very short period. And he's a uni bomber. He's not anything he was before the uni bomber doesn't count anymore.

Yeah. He ends here's the uni. He's the uni bomber. Yeah, he's a uni bomber. Yeah. I mean, his biggest thing was when he was at the University of Michigan, which they still hold his papers to this day. There's like a Ted Gazinski archive at the University of Michigan.

Talk about not separating the art the artist. So, I got to go break my Annie Hall DVD. But all these mathematicians are all [ __ ] using Ted Kazinsk's work. I hate Annie Hall. I don't even like any hall, but still.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, you got all the, you know, all the Nazi guys came over.

Oh, we used all that [ __ ] but we rebranded it. That's the difference is that we took it, we took the Nazis names off of it and then we put it, we whitewashed it through American systems. That's why we're allowed to use it. This has Ted's name on it. It says Theodore Kazinski on the paper. And you still have to go K for Kazinski. You have to go down to the [ __ ] library and choose that. Yeah. USC still has OJ's uh uh Heisman.

I still feel like OJ is less OJ. Um Wow. He only killed one less person. How do you say it? Yeah, but

the mings were pretty bad with Uni Bomb. If you talk to they were pretty badly named.

You see those poor [ __ ] that tried to tackle OJ. That is true. They got jked. They got jked and didn't And isn't a maming a type of juke?

That is true. It is a type of juke, man. So, the the people who got maimed by them, like what's their like I mean, obviously, what's going on with all them? I know there's 23 of them. Is there anything notable about any of them or

I mean, well, you know, they were they were professors. Some of them were airline executives. Uh they actually Techazinski actually owed them a lot of money. Uh they were owed I think like $15 million in restitution. Uh, and in order to pay that back, like I mean it's not like Ted had like stocks and [ __ ] like that.

He had nothing. They held an auction. Like there was a full-on auction of all of Ted Gazinsk's like various personal effects.

God, I wish I could $15. Oh, no. Dude, I [ __ ] wish I could have gotten that hoodie and the glasses, man.

Let's go. Let's go through the items here. Okay, this is wild. Kazinsk's hoodie, sunglasses, and the other items that he wore as disguises. The one.

Yeah. Like the big like the [ __ ] you know. His costume. Yeah. Yeah. It was real. No. No. It was real. They saw him.

Okay. $20,000. 20,000. He only had one hoodie, I guess. So, he was he was minimalist.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 20 grand. Okay. That's not bad. So, 16,900. His Harvard undergrad diploma and University of Michigan PhD diploma that was sold. I don't have a price for that one. Wow. Uh, but the handwritten rough draft of his manifesto sold for just slightly more than the hoodie. That was 20,053.

That's it. I mean, like, what how much do you think it's going to get? You see, what I would do with the first draft is I put a couple of gay sex scenes in there to see if people were really reading it.

One of the big ones, and and I get this one selling for $22,000 cuz this is a hell of a display piece. His typewriter. Oh yeah,

that's that's got Tom Hanks written all over it. He would love that. He'd give that to Chad just to sort of like connect with him on something.

Uh a copy of his handwritten autobiography where he wrote about his decision to become a serial killer. That was 17,780.

Whoa. So did he write that in prison? No, this is all stuff that was found in his shack.

He wrote an autobiography before he got caught. Yeah, dude. Yeah, he knew. What else is he going to do?

He's got nothing to do. Nothing else to do. Uh, his personal journals. This isn't interesting. Highest one. Highest selling item. $40,676

for all the journals. For all of his personal journals individually. Oh, dude. I uh Yeah, I there's a part of me that thinks that like obviously I'm not going to spend that. I mean, that's an obscene amount of money. No one should be spending that amount of money on anything that you can't drive or live inside of. But it's like my my estimation is like I'd spent some good change for the BTK journals.

Yeah, those are the type of stuff I've been pricing some stuff cuz I've been looking through

some murderia. Some Well, not I don't do murderia, but I do stuff like I was like bidding on LR's personal Scientology handbook.

But once it gets literally like once it got past like two grand, I'm like what am I what am I gonna spend this money on here? And it's like, what is Natalie going to do when she finds out that I'm spending multiple thousands?

I think I get mad. Yeah, I'm not going to do this. I'd also get like some a little bit peeved.

Yeah. I just love it. I mean, I'm I want some more LR stuff. I've been looking for LH stuff, but it's very expensive. Extremely expensive.

It's got to all be fake. No. And and you're giving the money to Scientologist. No, you wouldn't give it to Well, you give it to somebody who's outside. You'd be giving it to a squirrel. The only thing that I actually thought about like that was like this level of price and like this, but they were selling the the Moog synthesizer that they you that David Bowie used on Ziggy Stardust uh for $20,000.

I mean, that's great. Well, that's that makes sense to me. Like that. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

That's an investment. That's great. That's a true art that'll be worth something that you could sell to a museum,

but I still feel like grew in value over the years. I feel like I would get something like like that just to play like hot cross buns on it once a like once a week or like been like oh man I should have

I should have got ompic or something for this money. No, I didn't do it. I didn't do it.

It's good to do because but that to me that's not Murabilia. No. I'm just saying like an artifact, you know, like a really cool artifact.

I buy the shed. I actually did want to bring up too about the guy called the unit trucker. the unit,

the guy that was forced to move the cabin. What are you talking about? Oh, so the guy that moved it was this guy that was a tuck a truck driver. He got pulled over twice with the shack on the back of it as he was driving across the country and then they let him

take it apart and put it back together. No, no, they had to do it. Got like whole.

They had to dig it out of the ground and then but this guy they afterwards they got him a they got him a little license plate that said unit trucker.

Oh, good. drove. That's what he drove around [ __ ] the country in. It was fun.

His his kids got it for him. It's fun. That'd be cool. I'd do that. Well, in all the auction out of the $15 million that was owed to the family, uh $190 grand is how much they got.

That's almost like $15 million. Each person probably got like, you know, a couple of mortgage payments out of it.

Not much. What uh piece of Ted Kazinski memorabilia would you be interested in buying? I am not interested in his legacy or any of his stuff. I personally like

wine some browners. To be honest, I said it was the hoodies and the glasses. Yeah.

The hoodie and the glasses. Yeah. Everywhere. You feel like when you got the you got to try on Charles Manson's jacket.

Yeah. I forgot I got to try on Charles Manson's jacket. It fit you. I didn't realize you that time.

You're so small. He had a big jacket. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not that it was a big army jacket, right?

Yeah. It's not that it fit me well, it's that it fit him poorly. Yes, he was very, very small. He was very small. But Ted Kazinski, I find him to be mostly boring. I think that what's interesting about him is the fact that there the fact that we helped create him, much like uh my actual favorite bomber, Osama bin Laden, where we helped him get this way because we we put him through the MK Ultra programming. Yeah. Uh, he was all jacked up and I I don't know cuz you know what it is too is that like you still use the mail which takes technology. I don't know

if you really wanted to do that. I I don't know. I've always kind of viewed him as kind of a a hypocrite.

I think it's [ __ ] up. We get one Polish professor and he becomes the unibrowski. Professor George Zabrowski. What's he [ __ ] professor in perogis? [ __ ] you. [ __ ] you, bro.

He's a [ __ ] professor studies at [ __ ] [ __ ] dumb [ __ ] UNIVERSITY HAVE A RICH HISTORY. But yeah, all this sold through the John through Heritage Auctions. Uh this guy John Hickey said that the collectors uh he said guys certainly over 40 and maybe 50 and fairly affluent, they're going to want All right, I'm feeling like there's racism there. How dare you think that just a bunch of 40-year-old men are going to buy and spend a bunch of money that they're trying to spend instead of giving to their wife during their divorce divorce settlement to buy murderabilia from dead Kazinski? How much did Kevin Cosner get?

But Hickey is also a collector. He's sold Bonnie and Clyde wanted posters, sold John Dillinger's wooden gun. That's a cool artifact. Okay.

Uh, and letters from Lee Harvey Oswald. Oh, very interesting. But no, I still don't like him. I'm just glad he's [ __ ] dead. So, now we know Ted Gazinski, he died 2023.

Uh, we've been uh, you know what I was interesting is that they have a new uh, have you seen the Ted Gazinski flashlight, the big man of his butthole? His like horrible horrible [ __ ] like ant filled butthole.

Riddled with rectal cancer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he was riddled with rectile cancer, but he still off himself. Yeah. Yeah, he did. But he he did uh he wanted to take it into his own hands.

Well, that's the thing is that some people suspect that he may have been murdered.

Well, that's what they said. He may have been after all these years. After all these years that someone finally took it into their own hands because uh he died from suicide by hanging himself with a shoelace from the handicap rail. and his death brought upon questions of how he was able to have access to shoelaces, especially because this was right after Jeffrey Epstein's suicide and security was ramped up considerably. Uh, and if he was depressed, as they said he was, he would have been monitored 24/7. They would have removed dangerous items, but most likely just no one gave a [ __ ] about an 80 81year-old serial killer who had stage four rectal cancer. I legitimately think that let's let's I'm going to say generously that they were not watching him with as much attention as they were before.

Yeah, he's got to be boring as [ __ ] And people are sneaking them letters from the the Oklahoma City bomber. I'm sure they can get him a shoelace.

He obviously was planning this for a for a while. He got the I mean I imagine and that having not not only is rectal cancer not fun.

Yeah. Right. I think that having it in prison is worse. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Well, he did spend uh the last two the last year and a half of his life. He did not spend it in the supermax prison.

No, he was in a hospital. He was the Federal Medical Center butner in Butner, North Carolina.

Of course, they're like, "He's got rectal cancer. Let's send him the [ __ ] Butner."

That's where all our top buttbased officers are. We've got Mr. Dr. Reginald Tiny. He's mostly trying to see if her poo poo's brown enough.

Oh man. Emergency responders perform CPR on him. On him. Yeah, they have to. God,

they have to go. Can we Can we not You're not supposed to do the breaths is what I heard when I took my CPR classes. So, like the breaths are kind of a waste of time. If you're going to get them restarted, just keep hitting the chest. Hey man, don't tell all our [ __ ] horny ass lifeguards, dude.

Yeah, dude. [ __ ] I do lips first, dude. [ __ ] blowing my dick, man. See if the air can get in my [ __ ] balls.

[ __ ] you, Ted Kazinski. Yeah. Why are you trying to resuscitate pushing his beard away to get to his lips and having like And if I was him, I if I had any left inside of me, I do one last like,

"Oh, you want to [ __ ] you want to kiss Kazinski?" Oh, I see what it is. Mr. EMT man, you're horny for the unib [ __ ] going in there, dude. [ __ ] tongue kissing him, dude. A and then the [ __ ] I I'd be mad. Complained about rectal bleeding in 2021. Got transferred to Butner. Uh and then he got bi-weekly count rounds of chemotherapy and in 2023 decided that the chemotherapy was too much and he decided he would rather bleed out of his [ __ ] to death.

He got chemo for two and a half years. Yeah. Why? Because bi-weekly rounds. It was about a year and a half. It was cuz he it was available.

Yeah, it's available. I mean, yeah, we did, you know, prisoners, no matter how bad we kind of tal we touched on this a little bit with Katherine Rams, but you you have to what you give one, you must give all.

Oh, yeah. Bill Cosby's personal trainer in jail has made him look incredible. He got out of jail. Like all of a sudden, Bill Cosby [ __ ] up because there's people out of jail that can't afford chemo. I know. No, it's awful. No, it's a but I all I do believe that we do need to treat prisons prisoners fairly. We know this. We that is the last

and they shouldn't GET HEALTH INSURANCE. We know that we should treat them fairly and it it's it's important for them to be taken care of in that way. But yeah, Ted Kazinski uh he might not have deserved it.

Yeah. Yeah. No, no, I think that we could give I feel like you know who's in jail that doesn't necessarily deserve to be jail like back in the day like Rosa Parks, right?

I don't know if she didn't go to prison. You know what I mean? Yeah. Who's in jail that like we're sad about that? They're in jail.

I mean, Nelson Mandela was fine. That was a tough one. He's fine. I mean, he's dead now, but wasn't Makmoud Abdul Jabar?

Jabar. Who was that? Karim Abdul Jabbar's No. Chef Makm. What was his name? He was the guy.

Central Park Five. He was a cab driver at Central Park 5. Yeah. They should not have been in jail.

Yeah. I can't remember the dude's name. Tim Allen's should be expuned for what he's given back.

I mean, it has been. Once you reach Toy Story 4, you know, your your record is expuned,

right? Well, he wasn't in Toy Story 4. Yes, he was. I thought they had like Chris Helmsley or like Chris

No, that's Lightyear the movie. Mumaya Buu Jamal. Who's that? He was a cab driver that was convicted of murder, but he was innocent.

Wow. Yeah. I learned about him by from Reage Against the Machine. Wow. Yeah. Tom Mel, man.

Yeah, I read about I read the book in in co in high school and was like, man, man, systems [ __ ]

Tommy Chong shouldn't have been in jail, dude. No. Yeah, that was a [ __ ] up one.

I want anybody [ __ ] anybody's [ __ ] serve as leave. Yeah, man. Should be free, dude.

Hey, man. Last prisoner project. Yeah, we're still [ __ ] with Last Prisoner Project and they do great. But they didn't do anything for Ted Kazinski.

Well, he didn't smoke enough weed. No, dog. Cuz if he did, dude, if he [ __ ] did, dude, he'd be [ __ ] chill, dude. you definitely would have uh blown himself up.

AND that's also what's really important for weed. I think that's an important point to make about weed is that it does make our soon to be serial bombers lazy.

Any serial killers get stoned? Yeah. Richard Ramirez, Jeffrey Dmer, Gasey got loved it. Yeah. A lot of them did. Yeah. We didn't help them. No.

Okay. No. Well, there goes that argument. Yep. Yeah. I do wonder sometimes if Ted Kazinski had gotten the acid experiments of uh MK Ultra instead of the straight psychological torture if it would have turned out differently.

I don't know because do you know uh Ted Kazinsk's uh MK Ultra experiments? I had no idea.

Yeah, he well he was a part because you know MK Ultra had a lot of different arms, a lot of different tentacles. There were a lot of people that were doing MK Ultra experiments that didn't even know that they were a part of MK Ultra. They were put they were basically taking money from the US government that was MK Ultra money but it was hidden essentially.

Yeah. So what happened to him at like University of Michigan or something? University of Michigan cuz remember he went to university when he was 16 15 something like that guy.

Harvard. Yeah. Harvard. Yeah. And so he uh participated in this psychological study uh where he told this professor his deepest fears, his darkest thoughts, you know, everything like everything that you know made him feel bad, every single little thing. And then that professor as a test took everything that Ted told him and then mercilessly mocked him with it and just made fun of him and just absolutely because the idea was like we want to destroy someone's ego. We want to destroy someone's psych 16-year-old genius and ruin him.

Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Ex so [ __ ] aggravating. And they did it. And and this is and many people point towards this is why Tech Kazinski ended up being such an antisocial personality is because he was absolutely destroyed as a child.

Yeah. And that's why you're only supposed to roast the ones you love. Yeah. Because you should be out of love.

Yeah. It was actually think of it like that. Think of it as the most psychologically devastating roast you could possibly think of, but without jokes.

Yeah. And Yeah. Just insulting you. Did he know he was a part of NK Ultra? No, he he didn't know that this was the experiment.

But he did. When did he find out? When they started insulting him. Yeah. Years after the fact. But he never knew it was an experiment. We know as a society that he went through that. He had no idea till way after.

Yeah. Or if he even did. Probably. Yeah. If he ever he if he found out, he found out in prison

because I'm pretty certain that did not come out until the 2000s. Yeah. That was a fairly recent discovery.

God, that what's that like? Just sitting in prison cuz you're a piece of [ __ ] and YOU'RE LIKE, "OH, IT'S NOT MY FAULT." IT'S UH YES. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO. I'D BE LIKE, "YES." LIKE, "YEAH, GET MY LAWYERS ON THE GODDAMN PHONE."

YEAH. But man's dead. And that's it. I hate him. I hate him. And I never liked him.

Nope. I want that on the record. Yeah. That if he could be dead twice, I'd like that as well. It's hard enough being a goddamn male man. It's hard enough to be Polish.

Yeah. Well, the last thing they tried sticking to Ted Kazinski was the Chicago Tylenol murder.

Yeah. That's what they were trying to at the very end they thought that they because the Chicago Tylenol murders in which I forgot how many people seven people

and it was the the basically yeah they poisoned a bunch of Tylenol at the Tylenol factory. They never figured out who did it and we still don't know who did it.

Well, they don't know if they did the the factory. They don't know if people just opened up the bottles.

Well, there's a guy that it's obviously who it probably is, but they don't they they have no actual proof.

Yeah. Um but yeah, he provided a sample and he said he said he never had any potassium cyanide. Uh which you know, you had to have that.

You had to have that. Yeah. Um but the FBI never confirmed if Kazinski was or was not involved, but probably not.

No, he would have to talk to people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He couldn't hold on to a job like that.

Did he work at the Tylenol factory? He would be terrible in a If he worked at a Tylenol factory, then I'd you know, we could talk about it.

He's not a good employee. No. Ted Kazinski would not be I would not want him on staff.

Well, apparently he was they were trying to keep him when he quit uh Berkeley. Yeah, he was a teacher.

Yeah, but even that they said he wasn't a very good teacher. They said he would monologue at everyone and he was just he was not a personable man. He was not a charming man. He didn't have like uh that way about him.

God, I'd feel so mad if he was my teacher. Oh yeah. He'd be really angry. Yeah.

I just god damn it. So I just got to throw that whole semester out. No, because they still haven't thrown away any of his papers and stuff. He was actually very good at his mathematician job.

He's actually was poor at being the uni bomber. Yeah, actually he was better at being a mathematician than he was at being the uni bomber.

Yeah, he was actually bad at being the uni bomber if you look at ratio of of hits to non-hits.

Oh, I mean, but yeah, we got away with it for so long. But yeah, but that doesn't matter if it's it took a long time for him to make the bombs.

Yeah, if you just would have not talked to his brother, that's all he would have had to have done. Well, and he sent his mom a practice manifesto.

I forgot about that. I actually did forget about that. But, you know, that's why we want to let our audience if you're going to go out there and you're going to be a mass bomber, number one, don't.

Mhm. Don't. But if you were nah, I probably can't even joke. No, I don't think you can.

Well, LET'S TAKE IT BACK. LET'S TAKE it back. I think we're going to go ahead and say none of our listeners should be bombers of any kind.

I agree. Even if you work for the government, especially I say if you're a bomber for the government, [ __ ] quit, dude.

Yeah, man. [ __ ] quit. [ __ ] get into making spaghetti. They got you in those drone huts, man. Timothy McFay's house was bigger than your goddamn drone hut.

Yeah, dude. Yeah. And yeah, if you want to make uh bombs, go watch. There's this Instagram woman that I love that she makes medieval

food. Yeah. And it's she makes like really nice like soups and pies and she's got a very nice calm soothing voice like go do that.

I watched a thing that was a lot of people making food from Roman times. That's nice. No, I think she calls I think she calls it like the hungry tavern or something like that.

Yeah, something like that. It's really fun. But yeah, or just do a bunch of whippets and choke yourself a masturbate.

You can do that. Yeah, you can also do that too. I actually think that's a really good way to, you know, get get some steam on your shoelace.

Yeah, that's right. Thank you. Well, another incredible episode. Thank you guys for being here.

Thank you so much. Hail Satan. Hail the mailman. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Hail the mailman.

Hail the mailman. Hail the mailman. Hail the mailman. Steps. Steps. So many steps.

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Who speaks in "Last Update on the Left Video /// The Unabomber"?

Ed Larson (Host), Marcus Parks (Host), Henry Zebrowski (Host).

What is "Last Update on the Left Video /// The Unabomber" about?

The discussion centers around Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, exploring his lifestyle, dietary habits while living in isolation, and the psychological fascination with serial killers in prison. The conversation blends humor and insightful commentary about Kaczynski’s choices and the broader implications of his actions in the context of industrial society.

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51 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Timothy McVeigh, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Ramzi Yousef, September 11 attacks (9/11), Richard Ramirez, Harvard University. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

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The episode runs 53 min; the transcript is about 10,867 words in 287 timestamped sections.

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