Lisa Rinna Opens Up About Her Traitors FEUD with Colton Underwood

What this episode is about

Lisa Rinna discusses her experience on "The Traitors," reflecting on her strategic gameplay and the complexity of navigating alliances, particularly regarding fellow contestants from the "Real Housewives" franchise. She addresses the challenges of forming connections while defying the unwritten rule against voting for fellow housewives, expressing her enjoyment in the competitive and dramatic aspects of the show.

Key takeaways

• Lisa Rinna loves soap so much, she’d murder her competition—and enjoy every second!
• Housewives breaking the unwritten rule: A recipe for chaos or just a strategist's delight?
• Survivor's brutality: Where even the first tweet sends you home faster than a reality star.
• In a world of misunderstandings, chemistry can be your best ally or worst enemy.
• Crazy eyes: The ultimate trump card in reality show alliances—trust them at your own risk!

Who speaks in this episode?

• Lisa Rinna (Guest) · 16 min speaking
• Jon Lovett (Guest) · 7 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 5:00: Lisa Rena, Caroline Stanbury, Ron Funches
2. 10:00 – 15:00: Harry Hamlin, Lisa Rena, BetterHelp, Helix
3. 15:00 – 20:00: Lisa Rena, Days of Our Lives, The Golden Girls
4. 20:00 – 23:18: Lisa Rena

Notable quotes from "Lisa Rinna Opens Up About Her Traitors FEUD with Colton Underwood"

• How much do you bring Lisa Rena as a person versus Lisa Rena as an actor?

  about Lisa Rena · at 0:57

• But there's this tension between Darinda and Ron Funches. I Darinda, we had a great conversation like Direinda.

  about Ron Funches · at 2:56

• 4.9 out of five stars for a live session based on over 4.7 million client reviews. That's pretty good. Sign up and get 10% off at betterhelp.com/loit.

  about BetterHelp · at 10:47

• I am married to that. Harry Hamlin is that combination of sexiest man alive and really smart. So, I was used to it.

  about Harry Hamlin · at 12:24

• Oh, there's a lot. I talk about my experience on Days of Our Lives. Is everyone's so young here. Did anybody watch Days of Our Lives? Did you like watch it with your nana growing up?

  about Days of Our Lives · at 15:42

• How did I miss this? They're going to call it the Golden Life, like the Golden Girls.

  about The Golden Girls · at 17:55

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Lisa Rena — Person · Main guest · 5 mentions · first at 0:19
  Central interview subject discussing her experience on The Traitors, reality-TV dynamics, fame, and her marriage.
• Harry Hamlin — Person · Referenced spouse · 2 mentions · first at 12:24
  Appears as part of a discussion about marriage as a 'superpower' in the Housewives universe and celebrity dynamics.
• Caroline Stanbury — Person · Referenced castmate / victim in show narrative · 1 mention · first at 1:07
  Mentioned as someone Lisa 'killed' in the game, illustrating Lisa's performative/soap-actor approach to The Traitors.
  I'm not going to lie. especially when I kill Caroline Stanbury, I put my soap hat on and I enjoyed every second of that murder. I really enjoyed killing people. I loved I had no problem.
• Ron Funches — Person · Referenced guest / cast member in conflict discussion · 1 mention · first at 2:56
  Brought up in a segment about off-camera tension and 'chemistry' issues with another cast member (Dorinda, not in entity list).

Media & podcasts

• Days of Our Lives — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at 15:42
  Mentioned in the context of Lisa Rena's early acting career and stories shared in her upcoming book.
• The Golden Girls — Media · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at 17:56
  Referenced as a comparison to a new show featuring former housewives, highlighting the concept of older women living together.

Sponsors

• BetterHelp — Product · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at 10:42
  Sponsored segment promoting BetterHelp's online therapy services during February, emphasizing relationship navigation.
• Helix — Product · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at 10:55
  Sponsored segment promoting Helix mattresses, highlighting the comfort and customer satisfaction guarantee.
  That's betterh elp.com/lovit.lo is brought to you by Helix. Boy, it's cold in LA. It was almost 52 degrees. I had to put on a sweatshirt with a fleece lining to walk pundit this.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 And do you think you'd do the all-star traders? I literally saw that and I was like, are you kidding me already? I haven't even gotten over that experience.

0:16 And we're back. Please welcome to the stage. It's Lisa Rena. So wow. Wow. Thanks guys. Wow.

0:38 Very happy to see you. Now for the for the listening audience at home if you do not want to be spoiled for the traitors. Uh this is the point at which you should jump ahead. Hi, welcome.

0:50 Hi. Thanks. You're excellent on this season of the traitors. Why thank you. I had a lot of fun.

0:57 How much do you bring Lisa Rena as a person versus Lisa Rena as an actor? Like, how much are you doing a soap out there?

1:05 I did a lot of soap out there. I did. I'm not going to lie. Um, especially when I kill Caroline Stanbury, I put my soap hat on and I enjoyed every second of that murder. I really enjoyed killing people. I loved I had no problem murdering them at all. I loved it.

1:25 Now there is a unspoken then spoken rule about housewives not voting for housewives.

1:32 Clearly I broke that rule for sure. I broke it big time for sure. Uh yeah, but it does seem like

1:39 I don't like that rule by the way. It sort of seems like then everybody would gang up on the housewives because then they would

1:45 they do gang up on the housewives. I mean that's part of the problem when you put us all in a group. They're like we got to get the housewives. I don't like that. I didn't like that.

1:55 So, I was uh very briefly on the show survivor. So, technically, is that true or is he lying?

2:01 No, I was. Really? Yeah. Blink and you'll miss it. You really were. I really was.

2:04 And you got kicked off like right away. Absolutely. So, I'm sorry. No, it's okay.

2:10 Like you feel like such a loser, right? Well, I I mean, you know, don't you a little bit?

2:17 No. Those survivor people are brutal. I know. You're so tough. But would I be considered one? Would you if if you if I was on Traders with you and you found out that I was a gamer from Survivor, but that I went home first, I'm I've got to be seen as harmless, right? I've got to be someone you drag along to basically just like just meet for the grinder later on.

2:39 Correct. Cool. Yeah. I would not blink twice at you. I actually commiserated about going home first with Direinda. had Darinda on

2:49 and we talked about her first experience and how disappointing it was. Dire having a better experience this season. Yes.

2:56 Um but there's this tension between Darinda and Ron Funches. I Darinda, we had a great conversation like Direinda. Ron's been a great guest on this show. What's going on?

3:05 Well, listen, I was there so I saw it all and I heard it all and you know, you don't see it. They cut most of it. But listen, I think that you have chemistry with people and some people you mix with and some people you don't. That was just a like a barrel full of misunderstandings. And whatever that was, it happened and I couldn't explain it to you other than they both had a problem with each other.

3:33 They did. Yeah. But I think it's like chemistry. You like some people and other people that you don't like.

3:39 Yeah. I like so few people and so few people like me, which I think the same. I feel the same way.

3:44 But then if I do like someone, boy, is it great. I know. I feel the same way. And how do we think this is going so far?

3:50 Good. I think it's good. I liked everybody in that castle. I got along with everybody.

3:55 I really didn't. And I don't like people. And I don't like most of those kinds of people, but I liked them all. It's true.

4:02 What And what kinds of people are you talking about? Well, like like people from just people like I just people like I like dogs better than I like people, you know.

4:14 So, there was this great dynamic between you and Colton on the show. Oh, yeah. Great. Super.

4:20 Well, yeah, it was really lovely. I thought you're good now. He has crazy eyes.

4:26 What happened to you two being? I THOUGHT WE'RE FINE. We're fine. They're on your side.

4:31 We're fine. But I am realizing I have moments of like reliving and I see him on screen and I go, "Shit, he has crazy crazy eyes." And I didn't even realize it in the moment. He's got crazy eyes.

4:44 He came to play. He came to play hard. And he did get you. He did get me. He got you.

4:49 I know. He got me. Well, not really. Rob got me more than Colton. We can't give Colton that much credit.

4:54 I think you got uh Rob got me. He did. Hey, the war is over. This was shot a while ago from here.

5:04 Clearly it's not. And then Yes. back to Colton. And so but then and I and I really like Colton and I and I appreciate you know him.

5:12 Yes. You do? Yes. We're friends. Really? And I appreciate that he's someone deep.

5:17 You know what that is? Honestly, they find it shocking. I have handsome friends. Shame on you.

5:22 He is handsome. And I appreciate that he's someone that went through a really rough period especially before he came out and then he comes out and he builds this great life and then when you were upset about being uh um got that you posted that he was a stalker and it caused this whole big kurfuffle.

5:39 No, excuse me. Let's go back. Go back. Excuse me. Correct me. I want to be corrected.

5:43 Excuse me. What happened was people started to talk about that incident in his life. So I didn't bring it up. All of a sudden, they were talking about him being a stalker. And I did not know that. And the Tik Tockers were going tick- tock wild about it. That's how it began. And then somebody from the Bachelor, I don't know her name exactly, but she started to talk about it. So, it was longgoing before I entered the chat. Now, let me take it back. Colton

6:22 Colton wanted to see me as a housewife, right? He really was begging for Well, he was he had seen and noted a difference, but he thought that this was a sign that maybe you were a traitor, which wasn't wrong. He did kind of He did have a He did have a point.

6:41 There was a cat in the He was barking up the tree and there was a cat in the tree.

6:44 Okay, there was a cat in the tree. Yeah, there was. But I I don't know about that. So I let him have it as you saw. I was like, "Do not, you know, label me and yada yada." And so, you know, there's a little part of being a housewife where you're kind of trained to do it whenever you want. So, not just on the show, but you can pull up that housewife at any moment, right? So, I saw this post that had me asking, "Were people doing Coke in your bathroom?" Thank you. It's one of my finer moments on the show. And the girl that was posting it said, "I don't know if Colton knows who he's sliding up to." Something to that effect. Good luck.

7:32 That's when I left the comment. Let's talk about you being a stalker. And that is so it's sort of like a Hulk situation where there's a there's a thing that can happen to a housewife where where it activates.

7:44 Exactly. Exactly. And it doesn't take much. So Colton Colton activated me while I was sitting in my kitchen and we had stopped filming seven months ago. True. And all I had to do and I knew it, you know, like I could have stopped myself, right? I I don't know that

8:06 I could have. You know that. I don't know. I guess you could You're saying it. You could have stopped yourself.

8:12 I could have stopped myself, but I have this little thing inside of me that knows if I cross that line,

8:18 it's going to just really bring havoc havoc. Uhhuh. And yet part of me goes, "Okay, I'm not going to do that because my god, I don't want to bring havoc to anybody." And then I sit back for a second and I go, "Yeah, but what if?" Like,

8:32 what if? What a way to live. Yeah, it's so it's so interesting. Well, because the other side of it Well, it's interesting. It's so interesting because I I fear and admire it, I think, which is

8:43 that's a good way to look at it. You should fear and admire it. Well, it's part of it is also it's part of a it's almost like a different it's a culture in which also you can then say we're good and you can kind of move forward. There's a way of moving forward.

8:55 You can if the person will also move forward with you. You know what I'm saying? and and have you and Colton move forward? Because I do think like people shouldn't be defined by their worst moments, especially if they were going through something.

9:07 That's why I came out and did a video saying, listen, I'm fine with Colton. He was a great nemesis for me. I like him, yada yada. But he did want a housewife, so you know, he got one. But we're fine. I'm fine with everybody.

9:24 And even Robbie Bobby, who threw me under the bus. Oh, listen to that. God, I love that.

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12:07 I think we have to talk about the handsomeness of of Robbie Bobby. The world is talking about it.

12:13 It's a sort of a frustrating kind of handsomeness I find because he also seems to be kind of smart and charming. Right. That's a That's a That's sort of frustrating to me.

12:20 That's a big combo. Yeah. Yes. But I am married to that. I am married to that. Harry Hamlin is that combination of sexiest man alive and really smart. So, I was used to it.

12:34 Right. That it was sort of a little bit of because for other people, I think it could be kind of almost like they get the googly eyes.

12:39 They're all googly eyes and they're all intimidated by it and they'll all like literally drop on the floor for him. They will do anything except for me. I was able to like just sit and talk to him as you saw me play chess with him. I was able to look him right in the eye. I don't think anybody else could have done that. They would have been like, "Oh my god."

12:58 So, you brought up your your your marriage to Harry Hamlin, and it it seems like in the world of housewives, having a good marriage is like a superpower.

13:08 Well, it's it's practically impossible. I mean, nobody has it, right? Well, that's so first of all, some some of it's self- selecting because it does seem that people sometimes go on the show. They're almost like, I'm going to blow up the whole thing anyway. Let's let's get on television. Let's do it on TV. This thing is dead. This thing this thing there there's a flat line here. Camille grammar right there.

13:29 I mean, right? How many times are we going to get like clocked, you know? I always say that when I'm at a podcast or a live thing. clocked, meaning that's going to like live out in the zeitgeist after you've said it.

13:42 Oh, you think? Oh, I wonder. Well, I guess we'll have to clip it and put it out into the world.

13:46 Probably a lot. We have a little bit of say in what gets clocked, I suppose. Oh, maybe.

13:52 Yes, we do. Uh, I wonder if this will come up in the reunion. You haven't had the reunion yet.

13:57 Next Thursday, one week from tonight. Ooh. But is it hard to be married on this show for people whose marriages maybe aren't as strong as yours that could have made it were they not on television? What do you think?

14:07 Yes. I think being on television like that is very intense. And if you don't have like your stuff together, it can easily go south very quickly.

14:18 And but you guys have been good. We're good. Wow. So far so good. We're still married. I think we've been together 33 years.

14:26 That's pretty crazy. There's a And and you have a book out. I do. Which is called You Better.

14:32 Almost out. It's about to be out. February 24th. February 24th. You better believe I'm going to talk about it. Can you give us one?

14:41 They know what that's from. Do you know what that's from? Of course I do. So, I'm a huge So, I'm I've been

14:49 I heard you're a huge Housewife fan. I'm on a journey. I'm on a journey. And in knowing and in watching Traders and then knowing you were coming, I've been watching your seasons, but I but I'm not yet up to Amsterdam, if that gives you a sense of

14:59 That's my first season. I know. You're not even to me yet. No, I've been watching your season. So, here's what happened. I watched

15:06 Oh, I see. You're just not to the I'm not up to Amsterdam, but I'm I'm getting there. I was going to try to make it for tonight just to understand Amsterdam.

15:13 Oh. Do you think Do you think you I don't know if you'll ever understand it. Can Lisa Rena be understood without understanding Amsterdam?

15:21 No. Wow. No. See, they they know me. Do they They follow They follow They know you.

15:26 They know me. They know me. I can tell. Do they act Do they actually know you? I don't even know if I know me. I'm not even sure. You know what I mean? I don't know.

15:36 What's a story from the book that uh people would be surprised by? Oh, there's a lot. I talk about my experience on Days of Our Lives. Is everyone's so young here. Did anybody watch Days of Our Lives? Did you like watch it with your nana growing up? Okay, there we go. Um, I tell some stories about my experience there because it was my first big acting job that I think people will be really surprised by. I know everybody wants to know like the housewife stuff and all that, but you'll find that that's that's easy. But I talk a lot about experiences on shows that I've never talked about, so that's something.

16:15 They're exciting. There's a lot of good tea in there. Okay. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna have a lot of people mad at me.

16:22 I love that. I I love that for us. Uh you're also one of the few housewives who has been outspoken politically.

16:29 Yes. Do you get frustrated seeing people stay silent? Do you think more people should speak out?

16:34 Yes. I've been speaking out, you know, for a long time now. And yes, it bites me a lot. I don't care. I just I just I think it needs to be done. I'm one of the only ones in that universe in the housewife universe that ever spoke out, right? It's true.

16:59 You're you're doing great. You know, you you no lightning came down. What is it like? What What do you think it What is the fear? Is it a fear that they're going to do it wrong? That there's they can't once they've done it, they can't undo it? They don't trust What What is What do you think it is?

17:12 I think it's all of the above. I think it's just too scary for their they don't want to mess with their brand deals.

17:19 I think that it's that simple. They don't want to look they want to look like Switzerland so that their money can keep coming in.

17:28 I I think that's it. I I really do. Otherwise, why wouldn't you why wouldn't more people speak out? Doesn't make any sense to me. I have no problem with it. As you know, I say whatever comes out of this mouth. I just I just do. That's exciting.

17:44 I think so. So, this week E announced that they're doing E's golden life with uh Lanne, Sonia Morgan, Ramona Singer, Jill Xarin, Kelly Ben Simone.

17:55 How did I miss this? They're going to call it the Golden Life, like the Golden Girls.

18:01 It see? Yeah, I guess that's right. I think that's probably where the idea comes from.

18:06 Well, I'm glad those ladies are working. I think that's always good. No, I do. I think it's good that, you know, they're good TV. It's a good group.

18:17 Well, how did they escape from the Bravo? I don't know. How did Well, isn't E and Bravo and everybody under that Comcast umbrella?

18:26 I feel like they Not anymore. Not anymore. Not anymore. So, how did this happen?

18:30 I don't know. I simply don't know. You literally have to sell your soul to Bravo. How'd they get it back?

18:37 I don't know. Maybe they kissed Maybe they kissed Prince Eric by the third night.

18:41 Yeah. Wow. I'm surprised by this actually. Don't you think this show should This feels like I mean why why wouldn't Bravo want to do this show? See, I'd be excited about this. Wouldn't you be excited to watch this?

18:50 I'm surprised that they wouldn't want to do it because I mean those are a lot of the OGs. I don't know. I can't figure that out. You know, who knows what that's all about.

18:59 Would you ever go back to No. Why not? Cuz it was a [ __ ] toxic nightmare. But see, that's what's so interesting cuz cuz it's there's so many people that are like, "God, it's a toxic nightmare and I can't wait to go back."

19:20 I know. But what do you think that is? That they want to go back and they know it was toxic. What's less toxic?

19:25 Fame, baby. Fame is the most addicting thing on the planet besides heroin. But what's interesting is I I was watching you on the show and you were pretty direct honest about how you like being famous.

19:38 I love being famous. Oh, it's I do. No joke about it. But I'm not going to sacrifice that much because I'm already famous. I don't need to go and you know what I mean. I don't need to be any more famous. I mean, how famous can you be? You know, so

19:55 I don't know. I'm I'm I'm still trying to figure that out. It's nice, right? I I'll tell you something. I'll tell you something. Is there a level above podcast?

20:05 Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I can't imagine. Can you get any table you want in a restaurant?

20:11 I with if you call with with enough months in advance. Okay. You just got to know when they come up on open table,

20:17 right? Exactly. So, yeah, you could work a little harder. Yeah. I think sometimes you get a table through AMX, but I don't know how that works. Uh that your father had decided to uh die by assisted suicide.

20:30 Yes. in 2016 at the age of 94 in Oregon and that that that that process like had some impact on you as you think about being a parent, being a daughter. I'm just curious what what your what that was like.

20:44 Well, you know, it's really a very hard time when you start to see your parents age out in that way. And um my dad was really, you know, he wasn't terminally terminally ill, but he he couldn't see, he couldn't hear, and he was he was sick, but not terminally terminally sick. So you need two doctor recommendations, which he got. And you know, when a loved one wants to do something their way, you you go along with it. And that's what we did. And was it brutally hard? Yes. Was it um also beautiful because he could control it and he could do it his way? You know, I used to love Frank Sinatra. So, we were playing Frank Sinatra as it was happening. And I mean, it's a surreal experience that I would never have thought we would have gone through or I would have gone through. But, you know, when your father or your mother or anybody wants that, it's a beautiful thing because they get to control their

21:49 destiny in that way. And that's the one thing I was able to see that he got to die peacefully with us surrounding him. And was it hard? Yeah. Was it surreal? Yeah. I mean to I saw both of my parents die. And I also feel really grateful that I got to see both of my parents die and I got to be there with them both of them. And that is I mean how many people can say that you know that I got to be there when they passed. It's pretty it's pretty big.

22:23 And do you think you'd do the all-star traders? I just I literally saw that and I was like, are you [ __ ] kidding me already? I haven't even gotten over that experience. I don't know.

22:44 Well, Lisa Rena, it's been so fun talking to you. I would keep talking to you, but but but we've got more. We got more to do. Uh Lisa Rena is going to stick around. Lisa, thank you so much. That was so wonderful to talk to you.

22:55 Thank you guys. Leave it. It's love it or leave it.

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Lisa Rinna Opens Up About Her Traitors FEUD with Colton Underwood"?

Lisa Rinna (Guest), Jon Lovett (Guest).

What is "Lisa Rinna Opens Up About Her Traitors FEUD with Colton Underwood" about?

Lisa Rinna discusses her experience on "The Traitors," reflecting on her strategic gameplay and the complexity of navigating alliances, particularly regarding fellow contestants from the "Real Housewives" franchise. She addresses the challenges of forming connections while defying the unwritten rule against voting for fellow housewives, expressing her enjoyment in the competitive and dramatic…

What is mentioned in this Lovett or Leave It episode?

8 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Lisa Rena, Harry Hamlin, Days of Our Lives, Caroline Stanbury, Ron Funches, The Golden Girls. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Lisa Rinna Opens Up About Her Traitors FEUD with Colton Underwood"?

The episode runs 23 min; the transcript is about 4,524 words in 112 timestamped sections.

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