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Michael Urie and Ted McGinley on "Shrinking" & Working with Acting Master Harrison Ford

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Michael Urie and Ted McGinley on "Shrinking" & Working with Acting Master Harrison Ford", an episode of Lovett or Leave It published January 21, 2026 (33 min, about 6,839 words). It mentions 13 people, works and ideas, including Michael Yuri, Ted McInley, Apple TV, Michael J. Fox, Happy Days.

What this episode is about

Michael Urie and Ted McGinley discuss their experiences working on the Apple TV series "Shrinking," highlighting the captivating presence of co-star Harrison Ford and the unique dynamic within the show where non-therapist characters often play supportive roles that mimic therapeutic interactions. They reflect on the complexity of their characters and the humor in portraying individuals who sometimes end up being the informal therapists for the therapists in the narrative.

Key takeaways

  • Harrison Ford's face: an enigma wrapped in charisma, keeping audiences guessing and glued to the screen.
  • Not all therapists wear the badge; sometimes friends fill the void with humor and shared chaos.
  • In acting, babies are props with personality—no negotiation, just pure adorable chaos on set.
  • Michael and Ted’s ‘I am Pagliacci’ moment proves that self-awareness is the first step to comic therapy.
  • Animal actors can bite back; trust on set is paramount, or you might find yourself in a real-life drama.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 5:00: Michael Yuri, Ted McInley, Apple TV, Happy Days
  2. – 10:00: Michael Yuri, Ted McInley, Love Boat
  3. – 15:00: Michael J. Fox, Michael Yuri, Ted McInley, Happy Days
  4. – 20:00: Married with Children, Happy Days, Omar, Richard II
  5. – 25:00: Stamps.com, Apple TV
  6. – 33:12: Michael Yuri, Ted McInley

Notable quotes from "Michael Urie and Ted McGinley on "Shrinking" & Working with Acting Master Harrison Ford"

  • Great news. We've checked and your health insurance covers our next two guests. Please welcome to the stage from Apple TV Shrinking, Michael Yuri and Ted McInley.
    about Michael Yuri · at
  • Now, there's no video proof that we could find, but you were also perhaps on the love boat with an orangutang.
    about Love Boat · at
  • Okay. Michael, I want to ask you about your show younger which was you were on Younger and it starred Sutton Foster and Hillary Duff and in season five, Hillary Duff's character dates a.
    about Sutton Foster · at
  • That come in, you Michael J. Fox this year came is coming in. Michael J. Fox is I've known him when I was at Happy Day on Happy Days at Paramont. I would see him on the lot.…
    about Michael J. Fox · at
  • So, hey, did you realize when you were unmarried with children that we were all going to end up living in Al Bundy's America?
    about Married with Children · at
  • Laughs. It was cool, but it wasn't as funny as Omary. Not as funny as Omar. Omary is like the most perfect play. It's so brilliant. It's so smart. It's so funny. And it was the…
    about Omar · at
  • Michael and Ted are in season 3 of Shrinking, which is on Apple TV Plus, premiering on January 28th. We will be right back. Robin's going to join us.
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Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Michael Yuri — Person · Main guest · 5 mentions · first at
    Interview guest discussing his work on Apple TV+ 'Shrinking' and past work on 'Younger', used as part of a comedic 'therapy' segment.
  • Ted McInley — Person · Main guest · 5 mentions · first at
    Interview guest and comedic foil in the 'therapy' segment; shares anecdotes from long TV career and discusses working with Harrison Ford and Michael J. Fox on 'Shrinking'.
    Great news. We've checked and your health insurance covers our next two guests. Please welcome to the stage from Apple TV Shrinking, Michael Yuri and Ted McInley.
  • Michael J. Fox — Person · Referenced collaborator / referenced philanthropist · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as joining/appearing this season and praised for comedic talent and Parkinson's advocacy; used to underscore an emotional dimension of the show.
  • Sutton Foster — Person · Referenced cast member · 2 mentions · first at
    Referenced as a star of 'Younger' while discussing a specific plot gag involving a fake podcast; serves as context for Michael Urie's prior TV work.
  • Hillary Duff — Person · Referenced cast member · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced as a star of 'Younger' in a discussion of a comedic storyline involving a fake 'Pod Save America' podcast.
    On Younger and it starred Sutton Foster and Hillary Duff and in season five, Hillary Duff's character dates a fake John Favro who's the my co-host on Pod Save America named…

Companies & orgs

  • Apple TV — Company · Platform for show · 2 mentions · first at
    Platform where the show 'Shrinking' is premiering, mentioned as the host for the show's season 3 premiere.

Media & podcasts

  • Happy Days — Media · Referenced show · 3 mentions · first at
    Referenced as a past show Ted McInley was part of, discussing experiences and memories from the set.
    Year came is coming in. Michael J. Fox is I've known him when I was at Happy Day on Happy Days at Paramont. I would see him on the lot. We've circled each other for years. He…
  • Married with Children — Media · Referenced show · 3 mentions · first at
    Referenced as a past show Ted McInley was part of, discussing the show's impact and reception.
  • Love Boat — Media · Referenced show · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced as a past show Ted McInley was part of, sharing anecdotes about working with animals on set.
  • Omar — Media · Referenced play · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced as a play Ted McInley was part of, praised for its brilliance and humor.
  • Richard II — Media · Referenced play · 1 mention · first at
    Referenced as a play Ted McInley was part of, noted for finding comedy in the performance.
    I saw him in Richard II and he was phenomenal.

Sponsors

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Full transcript with timestamps

Jason and I are going for it. This was such a special shot that they sent us to the dailies and you can't take your eyes off Harrison and you realize that's why he's a movie star.

He's the master. What is that thing that movie star charisma that way his face does stuff? You're like, I want to watch that face.

It's partially like I I know that he's thinking, but I don't know what he's thinking.

Yes. And we're back. Great news. We've checked and your health insurance covers our next two guests. Please welcome to the stage from Apple TV Shrinking, Michael Yuri and Ted McInley.

Hi John. Thank you for being here. Hi everybody. Pleasure. Wow. Thank you. Everybody you have you here.

Hello. Hi everybody. Ted McInley. Everybody. There he is. Look at that. TV's Michael Yuri.

Now you don't play therapist on the show. No. Sorry. Ha. Neither of us do. Thank you for noticing. Yeah. Nobody would let me do that.

I don't think either one of you has therapist energy. No. No. We're basket cases.

That's Now, hang on a second. Well, but I do I think that Derek has this uh he has this really understanding energy. So, he is just very accepting. Derek will almost believe anything. So, uh I I think that he wouldn't make it as a therapist. Well, that's perfect.

Yeah. Yeah. One of the cool things about the show is I think though that sometimes the people who aren't therapists are sort of filling a void of therapy for the therapists. Like whenever we get the scripts, I always look at the scenes and I think am I the am I on the couch or am I with the pad? Like which which which which role am I playing in this particular scene?

Yeah, that's well said because you that's very true. like often uh sort of off the ice, we become the therapists for the therapists. And I keep saying, "Wow, you guys seem more crazy than all of us."

I think that's a a a great way into how we're going to be doing this segment because um as I did mention earlier, I haven't been to therapy in about a year and a half because I am so busy.

I love it. Yeah. Uh so tonight, I'm going to ask you about your incredible careers and ask you some of the questions I've been saving up for a therapist in a segment. In a segment we're calling, but Michael Yuri and Ted Mcinley, I am Pagliachi.

That killed me. All right, Michael. The shrinking cast had an addition. And I understand that this involved you working with sort of a new member of the cast.

Oh, yes. Okay. And this was a small tiny tiny actor. The cast. How'd that go? What a setup.

Did I do a bad job? No, it's great. Hey, so there was a [ __ ] baby this season

and that What was that like? Spoiler. My character has a baby, which is Am I not supposed to know that?

No, no, no. Is that spoiled? Can you spoil a show about therapy? No. It's like uh they they kind of figure it out.

No, not at all. my character has a baby this season and I uh and so and and there was a really funny moment in this this previous season where we were sort of toying with the idea of a baby. Like they they brought a baby on set and it was like will this guy be able to have a baby? My character's you know not exactly a he he he doesn't seem like the kind of person who should be um a father or should have a baby. And that's kind of like my arc. Great. It's a great arc and I and I love playing it. And at one point we were trying to work with this baby in season 2 and it was crying a lot cuz that happens. That's what babies do.

And one of the crew guys was like, "Please don't let them give you a baby next season."

Well, they say, you know, babies and and animals well can be tough. Okay. But I want to say I want to push back on that a little bit, John, if it's okay. I think it's children and animals. I say babies are great to act with,

right? Because they don't have any say. That's right. They're basically just a living prop.

And you always look like an angel holding a baby. You can't go wrong. You can't go wrong. You can't go wrong.

Always going to do something cute and then be like a little [ __ ] and make you look bad. Or a dog is trained. You know, working with animals is weird because they're not like regular animals. They're trained. And so they're looking at their, you know, their handler off camera and it's like not it's not fun at It's really hard to work with animals and the trainer because the trainer, if you're having a scene, we have a thing called an ey line where you don't want anybody in your ey line while we're working opposite each other because I want to focus on you. But when you're working with an animal, the trainer's back there going down and you can it's like up and me or the dog. I I don't know who we're talking to. They drive you nuts

cuz now you were bit in the crotch by a dog. Yes. On Happy Days. Yeah. you want to talk about you want to do shrinking. Uh so on happy days and this is where I learned like you have to really you really have to trust the actor holding the animal. So the worst thing you can do is give an actor almost anything but you give him a deadly animal. And this guy

who was it who was holding the animal? So well it was no he was a guest star. is a very big strong guy and he's holding this huge dog that was supposed to come after me and he had a he had a chain on him. The guy's holding like this and as you start acting everybody sort of relaxes and it goes and all of a sudden that dog comes at he's supposed to do this and he comes after me and the guy's supposed to hold him. He doesn't grab the dog and it grab he grabs my crotch right here. Thank God I was going the other way.

And uh otherwise it would have been the other circumcision. Wow. It was brutal. Literally, it scared me to death. I would be living on an island in Biminy right now doing pretty well with my own jet, but

a little shorter. Now, there's no video proof that we could find, but you were also perhaps on the love boat with an orangutang.

Yes. Gosh. Yeah. So, I've worked is crazy. We'll be on set and we'll be talking about something and he'll be like, "Yeah, that's when I dance with the Andrew sisters on the love bar." That's like you what? Wait, go back. You what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I work with Jagabore. Oh, sure. Yeah. He's got the craziest stories.

My problem is that I don't remember them until you start talking about them. I'm like, "Oh, yeah. I forgot about that." Uh, but love affair with I've worked with a I've worked with a bear. I've worked with a wolf. I've worked with an orangutang. And they're they're like, "Don't look him in the eyes." Uh, well, how am I gonna work with him?

Well, that's no way to talk about Harrison Ford. All right. Now, I do have a therapy. Here's my first therapy question.

I feel like I can't envision the future. Uh, like I can make plans, but then someone says, "Are you looking forward to that?" And I was like, "I don't know how to do that." What is that you think? So, like I plan for the future. And then they're like, "Are you looking forward to that trip?" But it's like, well, I I know we're going to do fun things, but I have no image of it in my mind.

I don't think about it that way. So, when you go to sleep at night, Uhhuh. you don't close your eyes and you don't imagine where you're going to go.

No. Well, let's work on that. Oh, this is good. I think that's the beginning. I'll work on it.

At night time, you close your eyes, you picture where you're going to go, how you're going to be in that setting, and you go there.

I'm going to try that. I'm Thanks for nothing, Michael Yuri. I'm a basket case. I can't help you.

Now, you're both uh veteran TV actors. And is it a pain to have to work with uh kind of snooty film actors like Harrison Ford?

No, he's awesome. He is. He's really cool. I like to say that Michael Yuri is a masterclass in acting. He truly is

so gifted and to just get to stand next to him is a miracle. Harrison, you you work with Harrison. I had a real problem with Harrison because he kept saying I I mean I grew up loving everything he's ever done. Love all his movies and yet you have to work opposite him. I didn't have scenes directly with him once in the first season I did but have had more since. And I couldn't get past the fact that that's Harrison Ford, you know? I I mean it was so hard for me. And finally off camera he puts you at ease so much. And he's really like he's the youngest guy in the set. He's this he's a bad behaved 16-year-old. And so it's really fun. He He's an amazing force, but when you work with him, you realize now I see why this guy is who he is.

Yeah. He's a master. Oh, we had a scene I Jason and I had a scene with him. We have a scene this season where we're doing something pretty crazy in the front seat of a car and he's in the back seat and we found out about it um a couple of weeks before it was happening.

My favorite scene of the whole year. Is it? Yeah. Love it. It's a really cool scene and Jason and I got so excited about it. We we were told a couple weeks early, this is coming down the pike, just letting you know. And we were so excited and we didn't tell Harrison what we were going to do. And in the script, it didn't explain what was going to happen. And

it's a two shot here and then and then Harrison right here in the middle. So you're watching him, one of these guys go

and and and Jason and I are going for it. We are shooting this and we're like in a car in Pasadena. We're driving around and we are going for it. We are like having the best time. It's so fun. It's so funny. And they sent us the dailies, which they don't usually do, but it this was such a special shot that they sent us the dailies. And you can't take your eyes off Harrison. Jason and I are in the front seat like acting our pants off. And he's back there just being a human being. And he's incred I was like, he's incredible. He goes through every human emotion with just his face, no words at all. He's sad.

He's giddy. He's afraid. He does like everything back there. And you realize that's why he's a movie star.

He's the master. He's so interested. What is that thing? What is that that thing that draws your attention? That movie star charisma. That way his face does stuff. You're like, I want to watch that face.

It's like I think what it's partially like I I know that he's thinking, but I don't know what he's thinking and I want to know.

That's right. You can't always tell what's going on in there and it's so compelling that you just keep going in for more and you never know what he's going to do. I mean, he's a lot of fun to be around. Now, it's time for another therapy question.

Close your eyes. I know on some level that a less ambitious version of me would be happier, but I will not do the work to become that less ambitious version of me because I am currently that ambitious version of me. And this version of me doesn't want to surrender control to that happier me because it might stop me from becoming some undefined most successful version of me, which is what the current me wants for my future. Even if that happier me, if allowed to exist, will know that this current desire was misplaced and would be glad I didn't pursue it.

Yeah, Ted, you want to take that one? Yeah, I would. Well, that's an easy one. What I like best about that is you didn't want to do the work to become less ambitious.

That's right. I don't I don't like some soft little I want to work. What am I going to do? Like, you know, have a hobby? What could that be? Will it get me any attention?

What are your hobbies? I I would like to know. I mostly do this. I do like to cook. I do like to cook. I'm learning to cook.

That's not a hobby. That's a need. You have to cook. You have to eat and your specialty, your area of expertise.

Yeah. Like mostly like food and stuff. Different kinds of food. Okay. Okay. Michael, I want to ask you about your show younger uh which was you were on Younger and it it starred Sutton Foster and Hillary Duff and in season five, Hillary Duff's character dates a fake John Favro who's the my co-host on Pod Save America named Jake Devo who's part of an obviously fake Pod Save America podcast. There is also a Jewish man named Levit. And then and then we have the picture. So here's Jake Devo, very handsome. Now, here's Levit.

And and then that's my third co-host, Tommy, played by a woman named Charlotte. What was that about?

Michael, you want to handle this one? Yeah. Um, well, I think that they were trying to show that. Uh, I don't [ __ ] know. I wasn't in that episode. I was a recurring guest star. I don't know. I think I think this is I think this is a this is something that you should talk to your therapist about. This is another example of a reason why you need to get back in time. But this bothers you. And also, by the way, this is an adorable person.

I look good now. I'm good. I think Tommy Tommy really got Tommy Tommy got erased. That's Tommy eraser

on shrinking. Yeah. You've you've acted across from Candace Bergen, Jeff Daniels, and Harrison Ford. Who is the worst of the three actors?

Me. Uh by far. Uh that is imagine like these are all rock stars and the fact that you get to work opposite them is

is pretty special. It's not lost on me. And by far if you're going to pick the worst, you're looking at them.

But see then but you're one of the legends that people must feel that way when you're standing across from them. Don't What does it feel like to be that for people? They're like, "Oh my god, it's Ted McInley."

I've never experienced that. That's not true. I really want to, but I I haven't experienced I was so excited to meet you when I started this.

That's so not true. Uh, but you know, you you work on this set, the people that come in, you Michael J. Fox this year came is coming in. Michael J. Fox is I've known him when I was at Happy Day on Happy Days at Paramont. I would see him on the lot. We've circled each other for years. He and he's such a talent comedically. And you realize there are many, many movies now that I've realized would never have been made without him saying, "I will do it." I went to his Parkinson's benefit. They've raised two billion dollars in 20 or 25 years. If I was afflicted with that, I would be sitting in a dark closet crying all day and no one would benefit.

someone like Michael is so courageous and so generous and and the fact that he what he's done for mankind is so beautiful and that Harrison plays side by side with someone who deals with it on a daily basis in a momentto moment basis. It is a very special part of the show this year and it's it's gut-wrenching to watch.

It was really magical having him around. Yeah. And I just want to say that I think that when you get Parkinson's you're going to do great stuff with it. I I

you know what? Thank you. Sorry. I mean, what else can I say? Thank you very much.

It's not contagious. It's not like right and that's so important and that's part of the awareness.

Well, I've important to remember. I I've I didn't know if that was okay and I've done it and it's done.

It's okay. I wash my hands all the time. So, hey, did you realize when you were unmarried with children that we were all going to end up living in Al Bundy's America?

Kind of had an idea. Yeah. Yeah. It was a great place to be. That that show was fun. We had a lot of We had a We It was a unique experience because they were sort of the anti- everything. And I was having this conversation today that the Bundy's were sick in that it was us against them. We are the opposite in that it is the world. We are just living in this dark world, the soup that we all live in all the time, but we're there for each other. The Bundies are kind of like that, but it's a very small group. So, it was a weird analogy that talking to people about it. I think that uh Al Bundy, I love that Ed O'Neal got to move on to Modern Family because I think he didn't want to die as Al Bundy. As great as it was, you saw him move on. He's a brilliant actor. that show. It's funny because Married with Children, I was talking with Hie, who's our head writer, and we're we both had the same experience, which is it was the one show

we were not allowed to watch as kids. There was something about it that there was something about it really really freaked the squares.

Yeah. You know, you know, it's funny. My my parents were so excited when I got on Happy Days and then I went to the Bundy's Married with Children. They freaked out like what is this? And then when I had kids, we wouldn't let them watch the show. And by the time they were old enough to watch the show, you know, it was so tame by then they could care less.

That's what I'm curious about. I would actually gonna want to go back and Yeah. Family Guy. Yeah. Compared to what what was like Marry the Children was seen as so like edgy and dangerous for

Casey. I don't think my kids have ever seen it to be honest with you. Wow. In fact, I don't think they've ever seen anything I've done

and neither is my wife. Uh she just learned my name today. Uh but that uh they've watched shrinking and and that's pretty cool.

Yeah. Everybody likes Michael. I saw you in Omar and you were fantastic. Oh, cool.

You were so great in Omar. I saw him in Richard II and he was phenomenal. Yeah, but not as funny.

You know what? He was pretty funny. It was That's what he found in this. It was

You found You found the comedy in Richard II. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. We got some laughs. It was It was cool,

but it wasn't as funny as Omary. Not as funny as Omar. Omary is like the most perfect play. It's so brilliant. It's so smart. It's so funny. And it was the there there are these wonderful surprises that happen during the show. And the way the audience would react to the surprise, I would get like hard as a rock. It was so [ __ ] cool to to like lay a surprise on 900 people who have no idea what's coming or if they've seen it before, they're so ready for it. It that play is like drugs. It was it was so exciting.

It was really like riveting. It was just a riveting experience. And how amazing was Jinx Monsoon? Jinx Monsoon was my Mary.

She's brilliant to I I've worked with Sutton Foster and Patty Leone. I and Mercedes Rule. Well, I've been on stage with like some giants.

And Jinx is like that. Working with Jinx is like working with a a stage titan. Sitting right here. Right.

Just saying. Sitting right here. Go on. Yeah. You'd be really good in a play. You should do a

I don't have the courage. No, you'd be great on stage. I don't have the courage. But

you're constantly putting yourself down and and this is not your session. It's it's mine.

But it's something I want to deal with later. I want us to focus on that in your session.

Yeah. You know, it's been a long career. It's it's been I've it's been brutal, you know. So,

come on. You're you've you've been in it the whole time. This business has changed around you 15 times and you're still [ __ ] crushing it. What are you talking about?

I'm like a cockroach. You can't get rid of me. I I am I'm I am a survivor for sure. I'm a fighter and I'm I'm still here. I'm very proud of that. You should see the the crew loves Ted more than any of us. Even like Harrison when when Ted walks on on the set, the crew like lifts off the ground 6 in.

He's the Pied Piper. Everyone loves him so much. You're you're like that. That's very sweet. That means a lot to me because I do the crew has become on our set. Yeah.

They are one of the characters. We actually use the crew for the reaction constantly. Right. Yeah. Totally. and and we can trust them. They have our back. And so I always see myself as one of the crew members. Uh and I will be probably after.

It's so funny. It's a kind of a truism which is that like especially early like like if I think of some of the iconic roles you had earlier on like you were kind of a worldclass handsome prick.

Yeah. Um I should say. Yeah. But yes. But prick. Yeah. You're like the poster child for prick. Like I love being the prick. Can you not say I am handsome? You don't do that. You don't acknowledge that you're a very handsome man.

Come on. At one time I might have been all right, but I but you know I'm growing into my character self, which I enjoy. Yeah.

Oh, you're in your character self. You're going handsome actor to character actor. That's the transition you're in the middle of. Well, it's interesting because that really comes to my next therapy question, which is on some level I don't believe my personality works in an older body and right now my only plan is to pretend not to notice that I am aging. Do you think there are other approaches?

Like I just don't think this energy works in a kind of whizzed form. I would say you're not seeing yourself in a real way.

It works for you. Oh wow. Yeah, that bond perfect get better and better. Michael, you're useless.

I'm trying to get away. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE UP HERE. ALL RIGHT. All right. Let's just

All right. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Michael, what were you going to do to fix me? I want you to close your eyes and imagine yourself as a shriveled old wizarded comedian quote unquote comedian and just see is it fun? Is it still cute? And and is it working? And I think the answer is going to be yes. I think yes. I think

Okay, that felt good. Thank you for helping. Thank you for helping. Wow, you are broken.

Yeah. All right, we have to leave it there for now. This is so much fun. Michael and Ted are in season 3 of Shrinking, which is on Apple TV Plus, premiering on January 28th. We will be right back. Robin's going to join us.

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Everybody, please welcome Robin Theiti back to the stage. Finally. Finally, a standing ovation. I deserve

Robin's going to join us. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Ted and Michael as well. Now, before we get to our final segment, uh, one note, we have our Downunder tour. Pod Save America is going down under for our hopefully just visiting tour. We are heading to Auckland, New Zealand on February 11th. And then three cities in Australia. Melbourne on February 13th. Brisbane on February 14th. Sydney on February 16th. It's a rare chance to see us upside down.

That's where the Sasquatches are. Yeah. Australia. Everybody go to crooked.com/events. Also to my friends in New Zealand, we did not know when we booked the show that it was the one night Lord was also playing in Aw.

Oh, you're screwed. You're screwed. And so, listen, here's the thing. Whatever she's gonna sing that night, it's on Spotify.

No, I say do the show from the parking lot. Yeah, just take advantage of it. Tailgate the Lord concert.

It reminds me of that old joke that ABC's new hit show is just showing Seinfeld

on a smaller screen. That's what we'll do. Come to the Pod America show. We'll we'll put Lord up there in New Awan. Uh, but please come see us if you're in uh if you're in the area.

I hate Lord. Please come see events. All right, we want to end the show tonight with something a little bit different. Something we're calling second thoughts.

I'm always so businessy in these. Yeah. So interesting. I've said dozens, if not hundreds of things tonight. Many of them I already regret. Uh and so it's time for us all to offer second thoughts right now. So throughout the show, the Love or Leave It team has been keeping tabs on things they wish I hadn't said. And so we now have a list of those second thoughts.

Michael, do you have any second thoughts about tonight? I cannot believe that you compared Alf to Henry. Harry and the

Right. very different creatures. Little alien and Harry and the Henderson is a giant is a giant Bigfoot. And I was I was I honestly I was offended as a child. I was I I I grew up on the both of those. I love I loved both of those and they're there's nothing there's nothing it would be like it's like apples and oranges honestly. And I think it's more like a little little kind of mean apple. Big nice apple.

I I agree. Are you calling elf mean? Yeah. How intense. How dare you? Yeah. I mean,

what are you a cat? Yeah, I get it. What are you a [ __ ] cat? See, elf hated cats. He ate them.

He ate them in a sense. He liked them, but he ate them. They were The cats hated him.

I I can't believe you watched Alf. I loved I never watched it. It was Well, I'm a puppet, so anything with puppets,

by the way. So, is Jason Seagull? Yes. He loves his puppets. So, I didn't like I didn't watch it just because it was a puppet.

Yeah, that's fair. Did you watch Dinosaur? Not highbrow enough for Ted McGinley.

Ever. Excuse me. I'll be watching I'll be watching LA Law. Thank you. I love it when Corbin Burnson pulls in

and his convertible Porsche. Yeah. You're going to get hooked. You're going to go buy the DVD box set. You're going to get hooked as soon as you can find a DVD player.

You got that right. So, I have to tell we're we're Palisades burn victims. So, they're going through all of our we our house is still there, but it's a shell. But they're going through all of our electronics and they're going to give you a value of your electronics. And I have 50,000 of of the DVD machines and all that. They give me $200 FOR LIKE

OH my god. Literally for 15 machines. Hey, my TV is a little bit broke. Mind if I drive my TV over to your wreck and throw it in there?

Yeah. Well, cuz what's the horn? It's just the insurance company. We have these massive giant dumpsters in front of our house and people keep driving by and saying, "Well, what's in there?" I said pretty much everything we love uh you know they

I'm really sorry your house burned down our house is standing but the inside they have to get rid of all that because it all got ruined

anything soft goes because the doors blew open right was our doors blew open or somebody came through uh and front and back door so but we're the lucky ones like everybody we know has lost pretty much everything and I have never almost never had a better year than we had last year so there are so many blessings you know mixed in with this complete chaos. But

uh we it is interesting. You kind of learn what when you have to make that choice. My poor wife had to make the choice. What are you going to take?

Yeah. And the second day, Billy Bush, I snuck in in a press car with Billy Bush and I went to our house and the fire was all around us. And so I said, "Well, what what should I get?" And I had my giant all the photos of my career in the book, you know, I had this like scrapbook of all these. And I thought, well, if I get that, I have to get my wife's and

and I don't know if we have room in the car. So, I had to I had to I had to choose to leave my stuff there. And I and and uh the only thing you can take is your kids stuff, obviously. But but it is these are things that you in those moments the chaos that goes through your mind. It's crazy. One other thing I regret from this show is that I did make light of the fire thing a few minutes ago and then it turned into a really kind of moving thing about what you saved and I shouldn't have done that probably because it's a big big important moment, you know, in his life.

Thank you. Look at you acknowledging that. That's good. That's And I also don't think you should regret something that works out well.

I thought that worked out really well. That's what you told me to say, right? That's right. Perfect. Absolutely perfect. That was it. Oh, Robin. The script.

It says here that um when you came out, I didn't do any kind of small talk with you. I jumped right into So, you're in a new movie, which seems like something I should have worked out. We should have had more of a human moment at the top.

Well, but we've met each other before. This isn't I've done this podcast. I've known you for a while. That we don't need that.

I thought the transition was a little awkward. I thought I thought I was sort of I was like, whoa, is that how this is going to go? Is we go now?

Yeah. And I did comment on it at the time I did say wow jumping right in. SO, YOU KNOW WHAT? I take it back. I hate you.

I'm trying to learn from the feedback. Hey, Michael, do you think it was a mistake when I called myself a

No, I think I've internalized something I should work on. No, I like that. I like owning that word. I think that's our word. We're going to take it back and we're going to use that word [ __ ] I mean, I'm using the word.

I I have one. Oh, what? Yes. You played that god-awful sound too much. Oh, the the shepherd tone.

I didn't like it. It's like a dog whistle for me. I didn't like it. Also, you made me feel less than. The way you sit.

You're so flexible. You Yeah, you're so flexible. And I couldn't do that on my greatest day of life. I thought I don't really want to go out there with this young guy. And then he starts complaining about his whole body. What the hell?

Here's the thing. It's Pilates and hair transplants. That's all that's going on here. That's really all this is.

It's working. Thanks. Is that the same class? What? No, you you actually they they actually intention because you have to

because you can't do Pilates for a while after the hair transplant. Oh, okay. All right.

Cuz you got to keep up. You got to stay up. Got it. I Well, I don't You just do what they say.

It's a It's a I had to go all the way to Turkey to [ __ ] it up. No, I didn't go to I go to Turkey. I didn't go to Turkey. I Beverly Hills. I want to go somewhere I can sue. You know

that is going to have to be our show. Thank you so much to Robin Thei, Michael Yuri, Ted McInley. We'll see you next week at Dynasty right here. There are 289 days until the midterms. Have a great night and have a great weekend.

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