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Ep 575 - Black Seed Fart Max (feat. Nate Marshall & Egan Robinson)

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Ep 575 - Black Seed Fart Max (feat. Nate Marshall & Egan Robinson)", an episode of Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast published September 4, 2025 (1 h 16 min, about 18,219 words). It mentions 9 people, works and ideas, including Jesse Smollett, Oasis, Meta Pant, John Legend, Gospel of John.

What this episode is about

The discussion explores the efficacy and cultural significance of various herbal supplements, notably black seed oil and elderberry, particularly within the Black community. It touches on the traditional use of these remedies for health benefits, such as enhancing vitality and respiratory support, while humorously examining stereotypes and experiences related to their effects.

Key takeaways

  • Elderberry and zinc: old remedies proving that sometimes grandma knows best when it comes to health.
  • The global supplement game is like a flavor wheel—every culture brings its unique recipe for vitality.
  • Blue balls: the unfortunate side effect of flirting too hard while trying to up your romantic game.
  • Black seed oil—more than just a trending supplement; it’s a staple in the wellness toolkit for many.
  • Vitamin Z: who knew zinc was the secret ingredient to powerful performance and cultural wisdom across generations?

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: Korean
  2. – 20:00: Viori, Meta Pant
  3. – 30:00: Korean
  4. – 40:00: Prize Picks, Jesse Smollett
  5. – 50:00: BetterHelp, John Legend
  6. – 1:00:00: BetterHelp
  7. – 1:10:00: Oasis, Gospel of John
  8. – 1:16:28: Oasis

Notable quotes from "Ep 575 - Black Seed Fart Max (feat. Nate Marshall & Egan Robinson)"

  • Black seed oil. I've only tried two things. I've tried black seed oil and I tried what I think it's Korean. It was like the jinseng tea.
    about Korean · at
  • Damn. This episode is brought to you by Viori. How many pairs of pants is too much? A pair for the office, a pair for the course. When does it end?
    about Viori · at
  • Download the Prize Picks app today and use code drench to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup.
    about Prize Picks · at
  • Oh, speaking of gay guys, I watched the I watched the Juicy Smile.
    about Jesse Smollett · at
  • But it was all the people you think would like it was like John Legend obviously. yeah, he's I He's been quiet though. You haven't heard much from him. He was popping for a little bit on all that.
    about John Legend · at
  • The question, but I don't feel comfortable about that. Guys, see the difference yourself. BetterHelp can connect you to some great professional therapists. They're all…
    about BetterHelp · at
  • Perspective. But it was, dude, I first of all, I embarrassingly was just jumping around to Oasis two hours like And then I would sit there and I would have to like everyone would get thirsty and I whenever I'm like kind of.
    about Oasis · at
  • Kind of the chillest of all the gospels.
    about Gospel of John · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Jesse Smollett — Person · Referenced public figure / controversy subject · 3 mentions · first at
    A long segment discusses a documentary about Smollett’s alleged staged hate-crime incident, evaluating evidence, motives, and media reactions.
  • John Legend — Person · Referenced celebrity / example of early public reaction · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned as one of the prominent celebrities who publicly reacted early to the Smollett story; later referenced in a tangent about a John Legend-branded skincare product.

Books & papers

  • Gospel of John — Book · Referenced work · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in the context of a Bible study discussion.

Companies & orgs

  • Oasis — Company · Business focus · 2 mentions · first at
    Mentioned in the context of a concert experience, highlighting their popularity and music.

Products & tech

  • Meta Pant — Product · Product focus · 1 mention · first at
    Featured as a versatile clothing item from Viori.
    Luckily, the Meta Pant from Viori can do all of it. Can do it all. I feel like it's ideal for the golf course or office, but also stylish and comfortable enough to wear all day.

Concepts & topics

  • Korean — Concept · Cultural reference · 3 mentions · first at
    Mentioned in the context of food and cultural discussions.

Sponsors

  • Prize Picks — Product · Sponsor · 5 mentions · first at
    Promoted as a fantasy sports platform during an ad read.
  • BetterHelp — Product · Sponsor · 4 mentions · first at
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    Promoted as a clothing brand during an ad read.

Full transcript with timestamps

Wild wild west. And we're live. We were just talking about black supplements. Camos is the biggest.

Sea boss is black ladies love seaos. Seamos during co we they got really uh into uh uh what's that? Uh the tea. It's the tea supposed to be good for your respiratory system. My mom was always trying to get it to me during co elderberry.

I think it might have been elderberry. It was elderberry. Elderberry was a big one.

Seaoss. And you were saying black seed oil. Black seed oil. You're on the black seed oil.

Black seed oil. Although that's it's funny you say that that that was a black lady supplement which I believe the that crossed over.

I think black people black guys black ladies too. Like cuz I I saw dudes talking about rubbing on their meats for like

Yeah. Black dudes are sneakily on the forefront of the hardest boners. It's crazy.

Especially you get like a Jamaican dude like that's why they're all like eat your beef. You need zinc. You need to be strong.

They're they're they are right about the zinc. That is true. That's crazy. They all know that. Yeah. Yeah. They're huge on zinc.

That was a crazy story. Every every country you go to has some sort of thing they sell where they're like, "Oh, it's very good. It makes you more adorable." Like if you go to like any island, they have some weird concoction. They're like, "This gives you the hardest boner."

I've have you I've tried I've tried black seed oil. I've only tried two things. I've tried black seed oil and I tried uh what I think it's Korean. It was like the jinseng tea.

Oh, Jinseng. Yeah. Red Jinseng. The Yeah, the Jinseng. I tried nothing. I thought they just like jacks you up. I didn't know it was like

Yeah. It just gives you like I feel like like a mental bug. No, there's a certain type of gin that is I think specifically burn gins.

Oh, really? Yeah. I don't I don't think black suited oil gets you hard like that though. It's like an anti-inflammatory. Although I haven't rubbed it on my meat, though.

I didn't rub it on my meat. I did take a little but I don't know. I saw I saw cuz I saw one thing that said it worked rubbing it on your meat and then I saw another thing that the guy was like, "My meat broke out. You don't want your meat to break out." No, you don't.

A meat breakout is I've had a meat breakout. I've I've literally survived. That's

I'm a meat I'm a meat breakout survivor and it's Dude, it's not pretty cuz you panic and you make it worse by trying all these other things you read about on the internet. Your meat just gets worse and worse.

Oh, I just not to stay on the subject of meat. I know, dude. I got a I had a horrible meat moment the other day.

What happened? Uh, I was trying to I was trying to like just I was with my girl all day, so I was trying to like res her up all day, doing a little flirty [ __ ] here and there, moving around.

Get myself charged up. Get her charged up. Nice. But I don't know if I like gave myself blue I think I gave myself blue balls.

You got two charged up. I got two charged up. Hold on. What were you doing to get her like hyped up?

Just like just like flirty. She like grabbing her ass grabbing her ass, you know?

Yeah, for sure. Just flirty stuff. grabbing her head. Yeah. Yeah. Hit titty hitting titty squeezes like we were walking through a store like nobody's around

all day. She was in the center of the Minotaur's maze and just like out of nowhere like mid [ __ ] I just my balls started like for real hurt. And I know Sean I thought of you. I was like I hope I'm not going through Sean during sex. That's kind of crazy.

[ __ ] up balls. All right. Yeah. He's a [ __ ] up ball. [ __ ] up [ __ ] survivor.

Yeah, I'm aware. I'm sorry. I've had my gut my nuts and my butt are all [ __ ] up.

Really? Yeah, my gut's pretty bad today. Is your gut still [ __ ] up? I mean, I drink I you know it it's mostly caused by copious amounts of Irish whiskey.

Yeah. And today I vomited in the morning. Oh man. Yeah, that stinks. I had too much to drink last night.

But my butt and my nuts are okay. That's good. That's good. My favorite visual where you could tell Shawn is like he's crossed the line is he'll he'll just start he'll his head will go down. He'll just do this when you talk to him. He'll be like so and so's [ __ ] a [ __ ] He'll be like

he's trying to hang on to conversation. I had far too much to drink at the Noctis last night, but it was a good knock.

Dude, that was a that Noctis was crazy last night. Yeah, it was so fun. Thank you for doing it.

Yeah. Thank you again. True. Who's who of Austin comedy? I'm kind of bummed I wasn't there. I should have I should have I should have pulled up.

It was The green room was so [ __ ] packed. It was crazy. It was a powerful green room.

Sorry. I I went to a Bible study instead. No big deal. Did you really? I actually did.

How'd it go? It was good. I mean, it was like the first meeting and it was like

just like half like awkward dudes and half like kind of awkward chicks and then like a handful of like really co. Yeah, it was co-ed. It's pretty cool. It's funny cuz people instinctually like split the room just by like boy and girl.

Did they really? No one wanted to mix at all. Yeah. It was like a high school dance. Yeah. Not even It's like like a middle school dance.

How long do you get? Like an hour? It was like an hour and a half. And then um we went over like the next week's gospel and then just like chatted it out and like it's like all right, floor's open. Anyone wants to say what what you thought about like one verse or whatever? And then you know some people gave their opinions like so some people are like they're just it's like the base level but some people went like deep

super deep. Are you a opinion guy? Are you like base level? Just sit there. Oh, dude. I just didn't even I knew I didn't have anything unique to say. So, I was just trying to stay quiet. I was just taking it all in. But,

I mean, if you get adults together and have to hear their opinions, it's kind of torture, honestly.

I was just trying to find like a place in the room to stare at while they did it. I was like, "Oh, yeah."

Was anyone was usually in those any setting, it could be like a real estate class, could be Bible study, there's one person who the whole room is going, "Shut this person the [ __ ] up." There was one guy that like

every single dude it's it's like every no matter where you are there's one person who's like I got this and they just sound like a total buffoon. could be me this whole time podcast now that I think

I I was I always in my head it's like maybe it's me but there was one guy who like at the like the logical end of the whole session was like you know this just made me think of like a like a Bible verse let me pull it up and then he just like reads like a like a three minute long thing and it's like not about anything we had just talked about and like yeah thank you for sharing man dude that's kind of nice though I I actually I've been uh I feel like I've been

kind of circling the drain on a Bible a Bible club it's coming I'd like to do So, it' be nice.

Yeah, it was cool. I I'd never I'd actually, you know, old or new. You reading old or new?

Um, we were hitting new Gospel. Yeah. Okay. But I I never done one like Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John.

Oo. Um, I think it was Luke. I can look it up. Fine. We should know that. I did it last time.

I feel like a bad person cuz y'all are talking about going to like a Bible like a Bible group and all I'm thinking is like I might be a piece of [ __ ] Is like the ladies in there.

Oh, okay. It's cuz I'm imagining them dressed very modest and for some reason in that setting that's so sexy.

I can't even I couldn't even That's just the enemy talking, brother. Yeah, that is that is that is

But you're not wrong. There's obviously you know as soon as you said there was co-ed, my brain went there. I went to probably

I will say serpent in the garden. When I was in there, I just like someone walked in. I just clocked them. I was like, "Yeah, I mean I'd marry you three." So Yeah, I I uh I send those Instagrams to my wife all the time of like there's accounts called like the reformed wife. Any of those like women who are like why would I ever give my wife my husband attitude when he gets home when I can be a docile loving wife

and I just fire him off to her all the time. It's it's the best. It's like the ones like they're like let's like live on a farm and like drink raw milk and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But it's like some of them it's not even a video. It's just like a quote a lady. It's like it'll be like, "Yeah, I could act like a big brat in my house, but I choose not to because I love my husband and the Lord." And I'll be like, "Send." And I go, "Yo, this is so funny. Read it." It's like I was just like laughing whatever. You should probably read that. It's hilarious. We can laugh at it together. I'll be like, "But I mean it does have a point though. It's kind of crazy."

Dang. So, you're at Bible study. Didn't know about Noctis. I I did know about Noctis, but I was like, "You know what? I agree the Lord.

I agreed to do this and like this is what God's will was is for me to go to this. True. And um

not to go to the Who's Hill who? Yeah. But then but then I I will say I left and I saw that like Tim was on. I was like, "Oh, that'd be cool to go see."

Oh, [ __ ] I went to Bible study. Like that what God intended. All right. No, the Bible study rules.

Yeah, it was cool. It be nice to read it and be like this didn't hit that hard. Just be in there like I don't know. I just remember this being better when I was younger. I I remember there was a moment when like they asked us like what do you think about this passage or whatever and people were trying to say like oh I think Jesus is saying like this thing represent this like he he gives an analog he's big on analogies obviously and he does like he says like something about some tower building a tower like I think the tower represents this I think it represents this and I was like I don't think it represents anything I think just using examples to see how ridiculous the prospect of being a disciple without giving up all your possessions is and then they're like yeah for sure all right

you scored do you remember what the passage was um I would love to have a take it was the uh him talking about like um you can't follow me. I'm going to butcher it, but like you can't follow me without hating your your father, your mother, your brother, your sister, your wife, even your own life. Like if you want to be my disciple, you have to like take up your cross and come after me.

Some and then like the rest of that he gives like examples of his name and stuff.

It sounds like God was saying you just a hating ass [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Well, he's just like you got to love you got to love me more than everyone else is basically saying.

Yeah. Yeah. More than your mommy and daddy. You do that. Would I love? Would you give up your mommy and daddy

for God? Yeah. Not my mom. It's not It's not even giving up. It's like relative to them. It should be higher.

I would think it was a trick. If he was like, "Give up your mom." If your mom was a god-fearing woman, she'd want you to give her up.

She would definitely say, "Give him." And I'd be like, "But like fine, I won't call you anymore."

That's all I had to do. Not a big deal. True. Next time haven't heard from me in a while. Be like, "Yeah, well, read the [ __ ] Bible." All right.

God asked me to not talk to you. God told me to hate you. I'm sorry. No, there's there's a book called um I think it's called Light Through an Eastern Window where they go through it was a guy I think from India who went through the Bible and like there's weird little sayings that you only understand if you're from like an eastern culture cuz they

really Yeah. There's uh like the [ __ ] the fish or whatever they pulled out there was like money and like it was money instead or whatever. Isn't that a Bible story where they like find a fish but it actually contains a bunch of a ring in its mouth or something?

I'm not sure. Sounds like a hood story. No, I swear to God if you look that up, dude. Is that a Bible story about a fish that like you pull it out and there's like a there's a bunch of money inside of it.

That's the black seed oil. Looks like the AI overview says that it's this go in the Gospel of Matthew.

Y um to avoid tax collectors, uh Jesus told Peter to catch a fish and uh open its mouth to find a coin. Uh yeah.

So there's really a fish. No, but there's actually a fish in the east that is known for swallowing shiny like jewelry and fishermen would catch them and pop it out. And that was the story. He's like, "I don't have any money." And Jesus is like, "Go fishing right now."

And he pops a ring out of the fish's mouth. But apparently there is there are fish in that like area that swallow. They're known to swallow jewelry. If you catch them, you get sometimes a fisherman will like pull a jewel out of their gullet.

That's cool. Yeah. It's a whole book about it. It's pretty cool. He goes through like every single little thing and explains like, "Well, this is what they actually mean by this."

Gives like real world examples of like just like weird [ __ ] like you read there, you're like, "Why the [ __ ] would somebody do that?"

Yeah. Butar apparently there's a reasons for a lot of it. What's got you wanting to get cuz you said you were like circling the drain on starting to join a Bible study. What's got you there?

I don't know. Just a chat vibe, dude. Just read vibe. Read vibes. Chad vibes. Yeah.

Chad vibe. I want Chad Vibe, bro. I mean, you get you get to a certain age where you're like, "All right, man. [ __ ] I've read a lot of stuff and none of it's alpha male. Might as well read vibe chat vibe.

I could see that being a good and dude getting when you're married it helps if your babes on the vibe cuz the vibes in your favor. If you get vibe with you and your babe,

the vibe's got your back all the way. True. No other book. What other The only other book you're going to read is like Mel Robbins be like 5 4 3 2 1 get out of bed or whatever.

I can't do both though. I told you before I was trying to hoofy. Oh, you might not have been there when I was telling you I was trying to hoofy my lady. But yeah.

What do you mean you're trying to hoe fire? Trying to ho stag vixing. I'm trying I'm trying to I'm trying to have her be more of a hoe in the house. So, I've been like buying a bunch of dumb ho stuff. Uh I'm

I feel like you can do that. Yeah. No, I You can have the vibe and still You think the

You got to get married though. Yeah, I know. Yeah. You're trying to unlock the true freak, dude.

I'm I'm worried that marriage will lock away the true freak. That's a big fear of mine. Not true. You think it You think Okay. All right. What up?

I mean Oh, you're saying you kind of want her singing for a supper. Yeah. Yeah. I feel I feel like I feel like once she gets everything she she needs, she's like, "Nah, Tree going away." She start wearing sweatpants around.

It's delicate. It's a delicate dance. No. No. No way, dude. That's where the vibe comes in is that it'll

especially as a black guy. I'm surprised you're not using the vibe. You can I feel like black guys can lean into the vibe harder than anybody and it just I don't know man. It looks good on you.

It might be too late for me to cuz it might look phony though. You think if I get into it right now clearly not a vibe guy and just go like no I'm full vibe now.

Hey the Lord works in mysterious ways brother. Yeah, you can for sure. It would be a good excuse to get a Jesus piece.

I've needed a Jesus piece excuse my whole life. I'm right there with I'll go shopping with you if you want to do that. I need to get one.

I got a wooden one. I need like a You want a wood one? Oh no. I have a wood one. I need to uh

vice it out. I need to get a gold. I want I want to get some gold or some silver or something.

Vice that thing out for sure. Let's out our Jesus pieces and get Yeah. No, I I feel like it's a Yeah, it's a nice thing. I don't know. I I don't have time for it right now, but yeah, it'd be nice to [ __ ] get get in a circle and talk vibe.

Yeah. Go back to my babe. Be like, "Yo, we actually talked about it. You're supposed to be a lot nicer around here."

You going black church, white church? I'll go wherever. But I honestly I think I'm go full Mexican church.

Mexican vibe. I mean that's Hey say my church brother. It's a Catholic church man more or less.

Oh yeah. They're going to always be Catholic though. Yeah. Yeah. But Mexican Catholic church is a is a whole different vibe.

It's like a party vibe. It I wouldn't say party vibe but it is a different vibe.

Like I've been to a few mises in espanol. They're pretty it's pretty cool. It's fun to be like the one white guy in the in Spanish mass. They're like, "You're one of the good ones."

Wait, what is it called? A mis mis. Yeah. What's that? That's just mass in Spanish.

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Oh, yeah. But, um, what is it? I I uh Doesn't the word lord translate to like ombre or something funny in in Spanish?

I'm not sure. I uh I've seen it on a screen. It's It's like a uh the word. Huh? Caviierro. Yeah. He translates caviar.

Yeah. Isn't it just like guy caviier? Yeah. Just It's like cool guy. I swear to God I saw that one time and started laughing.

Senor that's what it is. I It was senor. I saw it on there and it was like just all the Bible just says Senor

Mill Senor, save me, Senor. Yeah, it makes me laugh when I see that. Damn. Well, that's good. Well, yeah. I mean, look, we'll figure it out.

Yeah. But I'm telling you, man, I I might go I might go black eye vibe circle be the move honestly.

I mean, sounds like the most fun. Could the Book of Exodus could get a little spicy in there? I'd be like, "Look guys, it's happened to everybody. Wait, what the hell is the book of Exodus?" It's when uh the Jews are escaping slavery. Oh, look at this. What the hell? Worldwide institution. Turns out just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm Josh. I would never violate a black Bible study with right-wing talking points. I bet you you get in there, it's probably more of it going on than you think.

Oh, dude. Big time. Yeah, dude. Yeah, black people are conservative. I swear to God. Like every ter every black person you talk to oneonone hits very conservative talking points for the most part.

And but it'll happen and then they'll be like you'll be like that sounds like some Republican ass [ __ ] And then people like no,

no. It's like eh. I don't know. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. It's It's not as much the It's not like hardcore damn line, though. Because they're racist. Black people are racist as hell. I can confirm that for sure.

I'll confirm it. So racist. Yeah, that's like my favorite thing. It's like my favorite thing to be racist.

It is nice to be like kind of allowed to as well. I think we're losing it and I bum out me for real mad.

Yeah, white ladies are taking it from you guys. white ladies are taking it from us and like we're not even allowed to be racist against like other types of like we used to be able to we used to be able to make fun of Chinese people

to their face. To their [ __ ] face. I've seen it. Now we just can't without being monsters.

Yeah. 2020 2021 kind of did a number on that one for you guys. Yeah. Yeah. I know you guys who own shops

post post 911 I used to see some horrendous displays in Dunkin Donuts and just sit there and be like, "Godamn lady, you are [ __ ] nuts."

Yeah, they literally Yeah. Between like 2001 and like 2020, it was it was perfectly acceptable to call like an Indian guy Osama to his face at Dunkin Donuts. It was to it wasn't even like being funny. It was like almost like poppy for Spanish guys like, "Yo, Sama, put put cream cheese on my face."

Dude, I mean, if you want to get back on like some of the Asian hate and like the Chinese hate, just go to Japan. You can just openly be like, "Yeah, the Chinese are loud and dirty."

Oh, they get fired up. That's nice. Yeah, I agree. Loud and dirty. So funny. They do it everywhere.

Rude is a big one. I mean, so also, how Asian do you have to be to be like Chinese people? [ __ ] loud as hell, man. I can't

nuts. These guys are out of [ __ ] control. It's weird when you do see them like when you're in another Asian country and then you see a separate group of Asians in that country. It's like, all right, I can I can start to see

you start. How do So, if you're in Japan, did you see Chinese people? Yeah, they're usually in groups. Uh they're usually in groups and they're usually talking pretty loud.

Serious like leg and they just don't even like like there's a line to something they're like cutting. They're like they don't really tell.

I'm not the best. Um, I'd like to say that I am, but then I think we did a test last time I was on and I failed about zero to 100.

Yeah, Butterly was crushing it. Butterly really crushed it like really well. Yeah, he was. That was pretty nuts. Yeah, that's uh that's interesting. So, they go to kind of Do you think that's kind of a flex though on Japan where there's like

they're just going to visit? Yeah, but they're here and they were going to get loud as [ __ ] And

I guess that's that's one thing I didn't realize like going to an Asian country is like, "Oh, I forget like this is just a place anyone goes to." Like, of course Asians from other countries would go here on vacation, too. I was like, "Oh, that's a weird It was a weird thing for me. I don't know.

Got to be interesting though because I I I know for a fact there there's the Asian on Asian beef. I mean, it's Asian on Asian on Asian beef. Koreans don't like the Chinese.

Koreans kind of sweat the Japanese. They're like they're kind of [ __ ] cool. I think I think they would give it up.

The shift is the two best Asian. I think the younger the younger generation likes the Koreans a lot more in Japan.

Really? Cuz like K-pop and all that stuff. Like it's like a cool They're like the cool hot like cool young

anime is not like blending it where it's kind of even. Yeah, I guess it's kind of even that way. Yeah. Yeah. With the with like the kind of younger generation.

South Korea is kind of crushing it, too. I hear Soul is like the coolest place ever. I've just never

It's never been my my ste to go to Korea. Yeah. I don't I don't like the food enough.

The food sucks. Korean food [ __ ] stinks. Well, goi is great. Everything else I I wouldn't eat.

B I've had BB and Bops. They're not bad, but that's where China has them spanked. China Chinese food [ __ ] crushes.

Is it real? But not real ch It's the shitty Chinese food that's the best [ __ ] dude. Real Chinese food's awesome.

Every time I've had like authentic, high-end Chinese food, I just I was at a Chinese person's house at a graduation party in high school and they gave me the real stuff

like homemade. They love to eat the real [ __ ] from us. They give us the MSGs, dude.

Yeah. I mean, but the MSG is so good. Your body processes it in 10 seconds. It's perfect. Yeah. I wanted to ask you cuz you're you're on the righteous path from what I maybe it's just the what J Tokyo is to me but it seems like a super horny place. How do you how do you maintain

um you buy panties and vending machines and [ __ ] Yeah, but I'm I'm not a [ __ ] freak, you know? I'm not like I'm like nasty.

I say I've never wanted to do that even here. If that was available here, I wouldn't do that.

You wouldn't just see just you can't be taking out the thing. Oh, nice. I wonder. Oh, she had some

I might not open it, but I'mma keep it in the little in the little plastic thing it comes in.

I mean, yeah. No, you're not. I'm going [ __ ] on that. I'm saying bare minimum. Bare minimum. I'm I'm doing it.

I mean, it's it's a horny place, but it's like it's also a very like They have titty milk bars.

Yeah. But it's also so separate from Real. Yeah. They have bars you just go and like get titty milk from that just for like macro purposes.

Yeah. But it's just so separate from any real actual connection that it's like it just is just this artificial thing that doesn't feel enjoyable. Like you can basically pay for like a lot of parts of being with a woman. Like you could have someone just like cuddle with you and [ __ ] or just like stare into your eyes or something, but it's like

you know at on the other side I'll be honest. I might crack the plastic during a cuddle.

A cuddle stare. I've seen videos of people doing it. It looks so nice. I'd be leaning out of the bed like hold on a second. I need to get something out of my pocket on the floor. Um there was there was one time when I I I was like just placed in a situation I was like I got to get out of here. But where the temptation was the was the the highest was I went to uh I went to Fukuoka which is like the biggest city I think in like the South Island

and I was just there for a night and I I asked my concierge the hotel I was like just asked him like what's a cool area to like get something to eat maybe drink a couple beers you know something like that and he's like oh go to this area Nakasu go to Nakasu. I was like, "All right, cool. Nakasu, whatever is walkable." I walk over there and I eat at like a really nice like cool restaurant. It's rated really high on like the Japanese Yelp and I'm walking around. I'm like, "Oh, man. A lot of hot chicks. Hot chicks in Nakasu. I like this area. This is a cool spot." And I'm like,

"There are a lot of hot chicks." And then I was like, "It's weird that they're all wearing high heels. I don't know what's going on." But I And then I was like, "Oh, wait." I looked I Googled on my phone. I was in like the second largest red light district in all of Japan. I was like, "I got to escape. I got

like maids and [ __ ] They all had different like outfits. Like I could see them going to their different themed cafes and like bars and stuff in their different outfits.

Oh wow. Which was kind of awesome. But I was like, I got to get out of here. Did you go back and chat? And I yelled at the guy going, "Dude, what the fuck?"

I did. I was like, "What the hell?" It was all girl bars and like the two girls working the hotel were laughing at that.

And then I was like rising them up. I was like, "Yo, what's up?" I bought one of them a cheeseburger and

saw you got them cheeseburgers. I was like bought them cheeseburg. Yeah. I didn't get any hookers. Here's a cheeseburger.

I uh Yeah, I got really tired of like all the Japanese grub. And this is like towards the end of my trip, too. So, I just like I Googled like cheeseburgers like in the area and there's a place called US Burger and like the picture on Google images had just a white dude working there. I was like, I'm going here.

And so, I went there and like it was really good. And I brought back cheeseburgers for the two concier ladies

and didn't give the guy [ __ ] What? You didn't give nothing to the guy who was there who told you?

Oh, the guy was gone. It was just me and my girlfriends. Okay. just eating cheeseburgers.

Did you watch them eat them? I did. Yeah. I mean, I ate them. I I brought I had one with them that doubles or single.

I was like watching like it was like a mukbang. I was like watching them mukbang the burgers.

Did you give them double burger or single? Double obviously. Yeah. Oh my god. I was like I'm I'm a I'm a doing well. Are you double burger?

Bacon. Yes. That's That's undeniably creepy. I'm not saying to like come at you, but like if you if I came back with two burgers to just American concierge ladies was like,

"Well, I told him I was going to I told him I was like, I'm going to get get a burger. I'm going to come back and bring you one." And I was like, "You guys don't believe me, but I'm going to do this." And I came back like an hour later. I was like, "Got the burger.

I'm going to do that at a hotel." And they just munch. They just house the burgers.

The one of the girls were like, "This is like the best day of my job. Thank you so much."

Okay. Like no one treats those people like Do you think that's a cultural thing? like they had to do that in terms of like hospitality and they made themselves vomit afterwards.

No, no, no. She she she had uh like the security camera, she's like, I don't think like I'm allowed to like the the work conditions there. It's like she would get in a big trouble if they saw her eat it. So, she'd like get out of the view of the security camera and eat the burger.

Eat like an adorable Japanese lady. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I watched Where did you eat the burger?

What? You just ate it in the lobby on CCTV. Standing up. True. It did cross my mind.

You can abandon your post and call me. I know. I was like, "This is a test." The cheeseburger did bring down my defenses though.

Then what did the other one do? She She ducked out of the way, too, and watched the burger.

Yeah. Yeah. You clearly had your eyes on one of them. I also couldn't handle that. I was like, I got to go back to my room right now.

Charged up. That's pretty cool. I didn't know you did that. That's awesome. Yeah.

Are you still no fabin? Yeah, but I don't want to I don't want to talk about that.

I don't care. We don't We don't talk about it. I'm I'm not going to talk about that.

So, I mean, what's what's the Bible quote, dude? If you're fasting, don't tell people fast, bro. I mean, it is what it is. It's not even I don't even think about it anymore. We just [ __ ] crush burgs with ladies, dude. That's a high tea move, by the way.

Thank you. I thought so. I was really brought you girls. Yeah, brought you ladies burgers.

I brought you girls some burgers. I brought you some meat. I went out hunting. I went hunting. I brought you some meat.

Step out of the camera and take a bite. [ __ ] money from hanging out with all those [ __ ] He did go through a hole. You came back, charged up from looking at all the hookers, went the spaz on the guy, saw ladies and just was like, I'll buy you burgers.

I will provide for you. That is tight. They got to see your righteous fury come back and say, "How dare you, sir?"

I was actually kind of pissed. I was trying to be funny about it, but I was like, "What the fuck?" They were all It was all girls bars, which is like

sent me to the Hookeroos. Yeah. He might be the first guy that he's ever had pissed come back pissed from there.

Well, cuz he like I guess he clocked me. He was like, "This guy wants Well, back to Nate's question. It does seem like it is pretty normal there."

Yeah. Oh, it's the the culture there is so weird with like like you'd think Japanese people like, "Oh, like you know, kind of innocent, don't do bad like that much bad stuff anymore." But they like cheating on your wife is like a totally like acceptable. It's a it's a very normal like the cheating culture there is almost like Yeah. I mean I don't love her. It's fine. Like

it's almost like you can't talk back to like your grandmother. Yeah. It's like so you could like go eat a stripper's butt come back to Thanksgiving.

You got to respect Obas on. Chuck Obas on. Yeah. Yeah. I mean that's fair. But they sell like at like the convenience stores like they sell like like white shirt like they sell like white shirts and all the stuff that like they sell like the base level like undergarments stuff you need so like when dudes go cheat on their wives they can just change into it and they even a lot of the places like some of the like the brothel and [ __ ] or like love hotels they'll have scentless shampoos and stuff that you use so like your wife won't be like

you are you serious? Yeah they're they're really big on the cheating game over there.

They figured it out. They figured out shampoo is that's kind of a deep cut. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. My buddy told me

come out of the wash smell like V5. You're like damn it, dude. Our technology sucks.

How do you fight the fight all day then? What? Like how do you fight the good fight and stay on the straight and narrow

while I was in Japan? Yeah. Or do you I mean I was just going I was munching and drinking with the bros at bars.

That sounds perfect. But I was I was I was going to bars. I was going like the izakaya which aren't like

you know it's not like there's not going to be young girls there. It's just a bunch of old dudes and just regular guys off of work that I'm just like

I was just drinking with him and just my my running joke most of the time was just saying like um I was with a buddy and I was just like

he's gay. I said he's gay in Japanese and they [ __ ] love that [ __ ] Gay jokes crushed there. That's all really.

Yeah. Me and my buddy Connor were just going around calling each other gay for like a whole night and made dudes laugh every single time.

That is better than getting asses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [ __ ] [ __ ] voice and everyone's like, "Ah,

yeah, it was awesome." I'm thinking about the reverse of that. It would be the funniest thing. I was at a bar here and two Japanese dudes walk up clearly visiting, "He's a gay."

I would I would lose. I would lose. But like my pronunciation's really good. So, it's like imagine the Japanese dude only speaking Japanese and then perfectly annunciates, "I'm gay." Like, basically,

that was the the move I was pulling in Japan. That was hilarious, dude. Any culture does guys love gay?

Oh, dude. Brought that down to Mexico way. They would [ __ ] lose it. Oh, it's so funny.

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Dude, what's what's the news? So, he's innocent. What's going on? You know, it's it's

Did he produce it by himself? He might have produced it. And it's there's so many little things about it that bothers me from the very beginning. At the very beginning, he comes out and it's like a kind of dramatic walk out. It's over the shoulder. It's a dark room. You He's always, you know, before

it's a one-on-one shot of like the documentary, straight on, but it's they got him walking up to the chair and he's trying to look a little disheveled in it like like you still got money.

It does strike me as a master manipulator. He he really is going through that. Like I mean even when they went back to like the clips of him crying during the interviews like I

his but he uh I mean he had like a cut that looked like he was a refugee. He went from like his beautiful curly hair to like I'mma get no shape up. Cut low.

Yeah. He's looking rough looking kind of look. Yeah. like even even worse like uh I don't know like like like the Nigerians he was trying to frame or he well not frame but you you know

Yeah. Well, maybe he didn't. They had No, they they're in it. They're in it. They're talking. They're like, "Yeah, no, he asked me to." Like they he had the fool. I don't know. Maybe it wasn't him then cuz I feel like they wouldn't have put them dudes in there, right? if he was. But

but I mean like there's so many moments where he's trying to be like this victim guy and then they cut to something like there's a part where they're trying to make it look like it's the cops like the cops in uh Chicago were corrupt, but the whole time it's like you called the oh you called the cops on there's footage of I didn't know this when the cops came. I didn't follow that story like that when it came out. When the cops came, he was still wearing a noose and they got like 35 minutes.

That was my original take years ago. I was like, "What dude is gonna keep a noose around his neck?"

Like even even as you're walking like you you're running back to the crib. My next thought is like, "What if they're chasing me? I got this noose. They can just

set myself up for failure." Yeah. So, he's still wearing and oh, then they cut to it. He was like, "I didn't I It's not that I never took it off. I just put it back on when the cops got there so they could see how

Just so they understand how it works. Yeah. Yeah. Then he tried to say he was paying the guys cuz you know I got that check for like 3500 that he gave.

They tried to say that that was for he cuz they went to Nigeria like right after it all happened and he said I was paying them to go get me steroids from Nigeria that you can't get over here. like it's like a special

from Nigeria and uh uh they weren't trying to there there is like parts where you get towards the end of it where they hit you with those like well maybe cuz there is one footage one of the one of the uh like play devil's advocate there is one guy who said that I did see a white guy in the B which is also hilarious thinking the white guys running around in shisties but he the the security guard was like I did see a white guy running past I didn't with Jesse, but I saw him running past and there is like 10 seconds of footage that would show the guys running past that is taken out of the footage. Like it does a hard jump cut, like a 10-second jump cut in the real, which is the only thing I was like, you know,

where do the Nigerian guys come into play? Why would they say that he did that?

This is how they try to say that the they they were trying to say the Nigerian guys might have been like flipped by the cops cuz once they did get them, they weren't talking. Then they raided their house and they found a bunch of guns. They live together. I think they were saying they and uh one of them is a felon so he can't have they so he can't have guns and they found a bunch of guns there and they were trying to say there's never there's not any like interrogation room footage of them making some deal.

Uh the only thing that they were like trying to use is there was like the lawyer one of their lawyers was talking and saying like we can seal your records cuz they were actors too. So they were trying to have the record sealed for like show business [ __ ]

Yeah. But there's not that's that's really it. It's just like there there's a jump cut which does look crazy. It is like a real weird second of a jump cut.

Um there's a white guy in a shy running around. Allegedly there was a white guy in a shy who got a flashlight shining on his face, but the 10 seconds that that happens in the footage is gone. So you just see them running past.

That's interesting. And it cuts. That is a Yeah. And they were they were they were like then they go back to this uh like shooting that happened um in Chicago where they did that at a fast food place like some kid got shot and I guess they took 35 minutes out of the security footage and then eventually other footage got leaked. So they were like that was like the long comeound they were doing was like they did it before here.

They're building it up. Yeah. So look at them. Maybe they did it here too. And uh

Yeah. I don't know. Then they have one other piece of footage where they see one of them with the with the drone down and you can't really see the guy, but there's people who are looking at it and they're going like, "That's definitely a white guy." And then they're they're going to other people like, "That's definitely a black guy." And then at the end they go,

"Were the black Nigerian guys on camera at all?" Not there's only one moment where you can kind of see one of them with their with the thing down and you can't tell what he is. They literally pass it around on the iPad like hit play to like the cops and the lawyers and and even to the to the two Nigerian dudes. Nigerian dudes like, "Yeah, that's my brother. That's me." And then uh but the other people are like even the guy who was like, "It was a white guy who ran past me. He looked at him and was like, "That looks like a black dude to me." Like like So, but then there was like this lady who was saying that there couldn't have been any uh like white people. They were like, "That does kind of look like a white guy." It was like this one piece of footage that no one can agree what the guy looks like, but their body types look like the brothers.

The brothers were yolked, too. It's like that picture of like the dress. Is this blue or white?

Also, why why would he send Nigerian guys to Africa to get steroids? Cuz it was supposed to Oh, his exact wording was it burn. It's a certain type of steroid that burns belly fat specifically.

That's all that's Yeah, dude. [ __ ] It's [ __ ] He could have went to a doc. He's a Hollywood actor. He can go to a doctor and get big.

He can go on like hormone replacement therapy with a doctor. He's gonna get send Yeah.

He's going to send a Nigerian felon to Africa. $3500 like to get the steroids, take the trip.

Like that's sus, bro. It's so sus. Sounds like a big gay lie to me. It sounds like a giant gay lie. I mean, when they show you gay lie,

when they show the pictures of the brothers at the dock, they show one picture, one of the brothers, it's the gayest picture of all time. It's just him jacked in little draws. And I was like, "Oh, yeah. These were gay guys having sex probably." And then it turned into a whole

Yeah. the whole thing. I don't know. I may be putting that out there. I might be just throwing, you know, throwing throwing darts at nothing. But it just looked like I don't know. I ain't going I ain't going to try to throw gay on those guys names. True, true, true. I mean, they did put themselves in a bad situation.

You know what I mean? I mean, but then Oh, that's the one thing that got me nice having two choice gay brothers. If I was a Hollywood a gay Hollywood A-lister, I might try to snag two choice

just top shelf giant gay black and and and they got and they got a link on some steroids. Yeah.

Weaponry. Yeah. Yeah, it does. I don't know. They still doesn't hold up. It's It's crazy those guys had weapons. I didn't know those guys were thugging like that. Those brothers were thugging.

One of them, the one that was a felon, he had an attempted murder charge that I think got taken down to like aggravated assault or something.

Yeah. But I mean, they kept describing the guns as tactical weapons, which probably just means they had a rifles like Probably just means they had a rifle with a red dot on

an attempted with an attempted murder charge. It's like also what happened with that?

I Well, I think it technically wasn't his. It might have been in the house and I think you can still have them in your house.

I swear it's not my it's not my tactical weapon. He got he got he got charged for attempted murder.

This is like way before the the juicy stuff happened. He got off though. I don't know. I think he got taken down the uh aggravated assault and he did get

Okay. He might have been whooping on someone's ass. They didn't get all the way into like that. They just they just dwelled on the felony, dwelled on the guns and then all of a sudden nothing happened with that. But it was like, yeah, maybe there just weren't his guns and that's why nothing happened.

True. Yeah. The story that if that's his best argument, I'm still saying doesn't pass the smell test.

The only part that like again that bothered me about it was also to burn belly fat. Such a way I was trying to [ __ ] burn belly fat is a certain type of steroid. It's like that's not only ejected. It only gets ejected. It doesn't burn any fat.

Yeah. And he called it a steroid. You also can't you can't spot reduce fat. Am I right?

Yeah. It's got to be from the whole percentage. Yeah, that's a huge that's definitely a huge gay lie. He can't you can't body you can't spot there's nothing that spot reduces fat on your body.

They bring in just like a resident like bodybuilder be like you can't I mean there's no steroid that does that. They just have rich piano being like you can't that's not no steroid alive does that.

The Nigerian guys did do a thing though that did trigger it all. This usually triggers my [ __ ] thing is uh they are putting out a book about it and the book thing

funny grab. Yeah, the book thing is always that's like you know you always like people are like aliens are real and I'll tell you all about them in this book and from being so into the alien [ __ ] it's has me now like

they're kind of late on the book though that book would have crushed if they wrote it like four years ago

timed it out with the doc though they might have known the title that was the funny part is they're like

that's like a money grab like if you're the president you do a book cuz you know everyone will it'll it'll be pumped on the bestseller list

is Jesse doing the the the book or the Nigerian brothers the brothers and the our side of the road.

Why did he go? He go we're doing a book. It's called uh why you would what is it called again? Like that's what he did to the other brother. [ __ ] was so funny.

Was it Do you know what it's called? He he did get it but it's like a long dumb name. Like why would you fake something for attention something something the juicy smooth like it's got a long

such a funny title. I want to It looked like they thought about it right then. called.

It's called Bigger Than Jesse, the disturbing need for a modern-day lynching. Yeah. Yeah.

Damn. Yeah. Some some Republican think tank definitely was like, "Guys, although

we'll give you the bag." Yeah. But like the book will be nice, dude. I mean, what a difference written by JD Vance.

Hillbilly Elegy 2 actually is what they're going to call it. Yeah, that's [ __ ] bizarre.

Yeah, it was a it was a funny watch. It was I don't know. It was bummed me out. Bum me out that it was like a whole thing for so long watching people get worked up about it. They had they were playing all those clips of people being like this is a terrible thing during like the first couple days.

People bit on that hard. Yeah, they jumped right on it. Yeah, people bit on that pretty [ __ ] hard.

But it was all the people you think would like it was like John Legend obviously. Uh

yeah, he's I He's been quiet though. You haven't heard much from him. He He was popping for a little bit on all that stuff and now he's kind of chilled.

He I think he has like a I mean I I noticed from my girl he's got like a skin care thing at and they were giving it away and I'm not going to lie. I have some. They were giving it away when we were at the John Legend.

John Legend lotion. It's even worse. I haven't used it yet, but I have like a spray that you're supposed to spray on your

John Legend spray ordinary people. Yeah. I didn't even know who I was like googling it the other day cuz I started to put it on but I don't want to like [ __ ] my face up. So I was like what is this? And it's like you supposed to shower and spray it on your face like either after you shave or

what's it do? Reduces belly fat. I want to get those Nigerian steroids. Just reduce belly fat. Don't do nothing else.

It's all I need. I got 3500 bucks. I don't need I got a mission for somebody if they want to go to Nigeria to get steroids back. 35 $3,500 for two brothers just to travel to Nigeria.

And also just just one cycle of steroids. Like that's not that's not really feasible you long term. You can't you can't just get one. You got to keep

So wasn't he already kind of shredded? He was already if he was doing if this is true and he was just trying to get some belly fat off of himself and now this is the mess he's in.

So funny. Even better. He like report Murphy Murphy's law. It's like damn dude, I'm [ __ ] looking kind of flabby. I need to send those brothers back to Nigeria.

Oh, you sick. I'm going to I'm going to suck their dicks and then send them back to Nigeria.

Well, hopefully, you know, hopefully he figures out what's going on. I'd like the truth on the matter if I'm being honest.

That was the worst part of doc. You go into it thinking like, all right, this is going to get to the truth and then they get to the end and they're like, we still don't know. And I was like, no, I think we did know. And you guys are trying to make it look like we don't know.

Did they ever just did they press the issue on the brothers having sex with Jesse Smlette?

No, I kind of just they didn't do that. I mean, that's what everyone was wondering. Yeah, it's because of the pictures that those guys post like they the ones that I mean if you watch the doc I know what people are already going to say about me when they hear me talk like this. But if you watch that doc when you see the picture they show of this [ __ ] it's like oh that's like it's like a gay guy's picture to take.

Was he doing like modeling or something? Uh I think it did say that he was a model on there. But uh at socks they leaked the underwear photos

just I mean he had it on his gram like I think it was I think they were just pulling him straight from his

What kind of posing was he like was like like muscle poses or was it like just gay poses?

Uh well what made it to me gay is how small like I I don't know wearing little like shorts this big on shorts.

They were like tiny little shorts. That's weird. It was like hot pants. I thought I thought they were briefs.

Uh I'll be honest. I didn't I didn't lock in on it. I was like, I'm fight I'm fighting allegations in my head.

Have you ever watched Saltburn? Huh? Have you ever watched Saltburn the movie? No.

Anyone here watch that before? I just It's I think it's from a couple years ago.

I just watched it. There's It's like a It's all right. The movie's all right. The uh there's a scene in it. Usually I can watch anything without like being like, "Oh, fuck." And recoil.

The grave thing. The grave thing was nothing. Oh, okay. There was the grave by the time it was the grave thing. By the way, I heard that was uh improvised.

Really? Yeah. I heard that wasn't in the script and that actor just got it just freak. Creative spirit took over.

What happened? He just he just like [ __ ] a guy's grave at the end of it. Um which but that to me honestly felt kind of overdone. There was a scene where the dude he's watching a dude jerk off in a bathtub. I don't want to ruin this is kind of a major spoiler alert, but he like he like kind of watches in the wings and as soon as the guy like gets up to leave that he's like draining the bath water and the dude jumps into the tub and just drinks the very last bit of the bath water and it was like

hey you dude it was it was so [ __ ] up. Usually I can watch stuff I'm like whatever. I saw that and I was just like ah

then I dude I [ __ ] I'm in bed. I'm next to my wife and obviously I haven't put my hands on my pants. Why you putting your hands on your pants now? I'm like, bro, don't even try, dude. Don't even accuse me of that.

It was f for real. You just happened to go for a ball grab and she's like, I was comforting myself if anything. I just got [ __ ] rocked by a [ __ ] bathtub come drink

and dude, he went for the movie was actually it was it was a cool movie. He said he was jerking off in there.

Jerking off in the tub. I thought you I thought he was he was the guy in the tub. He's jerking off into it or the guy

he's just the guy's just having a good old time fabing in the tub. He brings this [ __ ] freak to his house to like meet his family. He's like thinks they're friends or whatever. And the dude like you got to see the movie, but the guy like gets out

the movie is it is kind of cool, but it it just it gets like towards the end you're like all right, man. Just kind of gets it's a little bit much.

Yeah, for imagine that and then like 20 minutes later he's humping a grave. You're like, "All right, this is

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I need to talk to someone now, dude. Oh, I just watched a freaky ass movie. You ever either of y'all ever see The Assessment?

Uhuh. It's uh I mean it's it's kind of kind of nice at the beginning. It's uh what's that Olsson twin? That's not the twins. The the older one. Kate,

she she's Elizabeth. Elizabeth. Yeah, she's in there. She's showing titties. Like it has to be the first 20 minutes of the movie. Just like what?

Just in the rain, see-through shirt. That's what's up. Titties. It's a lot of that. So, that's pretty nice.

And uh but it's a what the story is, it's like post-apocalyptic. And uh the assessment is like I guess there's not a lot of resources. So, you have to be approved by the government to have a kid. So what they do is they send a grown woman to your house to basically assess like the grown woman comes to their house and acts like a kid

and uh they and like has you have to like see if your parent Bro, this is the freakiest [ __ ] I've ever heard of.

I didn't I like I just was looking for my girl we watched I started to bring this up last week cuz y start y talking about those movies you like.

Freakiest movie ever, bro. It's a cool idea. So, how does it play out? So, so like at some point like they're they go they're they're trying to just like she gets there.

What age does this lady pretend she is is the question. She's got to be pretending to be like five. She's like at some point at some point she just like they're they're sitting there eating and she just like does one of those to the food on the thing. But like I mean she so she's like and it's like a hot Spanish lady. They have like this hot Spanish lady that they keep showing naked pretending to be a kid at some I don't want school. It's Hollywood, bro. You're getting deep into Hollywood.

It's crazy. There's this one scene. I don't want to spoil it cuz like No, that's fine.

The movie wasn't even The movie wasn't ass. But it is weird. I'm sitting there like I keep turning to my girls. Yo, this cuz she picked it. I was like, "Yo, this is the freakiest [ __ ] of all time." Oh, actually, my plan might have been working the whole time, but I didn't realize it.

Yeah. But it's a there's like a bedrock. She picked the movie. She picked him up

and it was of a often times showing her tits. Hot lady was pretending to be five.

Did child play? Well, I don't think cuz we watched the trailer beforehand. It didn't look like it was going to be as freaky as it was. For sure. Yeah.

It just uh like And it shows her tits a a little bit, but they showed Elizabeth Olsen's tits a ton.

Wait, who's Elizabeth Olsson playing? She's the mom. She's like the She's the They keep showing her tits.

They just happen to keep showing her tits. It's such a hack for movies to like and I'm saying hack not like calling it hack. I'm saying it's like a hack like a life hack.

Yeah. They just figured out like yeah we can just show tits and it made it look artistic.

I'm not going to hold you tits dude make a movie seem like well you see if you see like tits in a movie you're like

it's pretty cool and and they did it. It wasn't like a waste of time. You're like I saw a giant rack.

I got to see Elizabeth Olsen's tits. Didn't think that would happen to me in my life.

Yeah. What was her name? What was she? Wanda. Wanda in the Marvel universe. want.

She was Wanda. She was Wanda. She's like a big part of the Marvel universe. She is. Yeah. Scarlet Witch. That's what And uh but there's like a scene where she leaves like uh basically she gets a call that like her sisters having an emergency. She has to go there and there's been all this like underlying sexual tension with the lady pretending to be a baby. Can imagine

cuz she's like she's like jumping on the dad's back. He's got to give her P. And if they and if he doesn't that's the thing that it's like the crazy loophole is if he doesn't act like a good dad to this adult woman pretending to be a kid

like they're not going to get they can't have a real kid. How far do they push the line is the question.

I mean they go what the the the two in the movie like so she's jumping on his back. That's you got tits on back. That's already a yellow card.

It's already and it happened. How far do they go? They they [ __ ] They they So what happens to

He talks to the kid lady. The kid lady set him up though. It wasn't Oh, it's it was a test. So

it was like a So what happened is I guess they that that call that her the wife got that's like your sister's having an emergency. I need to leave

and and she and she pretended she couldn't leave for a second and then she does leave. Uh cuz the lady's like, "Fine, we'll give you two hours. You got to be back in two hours or whatever." And uh and so while that happens, he goes to lay down and then the lady pretending to be a baby just pops up in the bedroom and just [ __ ] grabs his meat. And it's just kind of the the vibes he puts out. It does seem like she's going, "Your lady's not here. I want to [ __ ] you. You want to pass this test? You got to let me [ __ ] you." So he's thinking like, I really want to have this baby with my lady. I got to [ __ ] that. I mean, also he's like, I'm going to [ __ ] this lady probably. But he it it is kind of like a reverse rape scene. Like she does he kind of

she coerces him. She she coerces him but he's never the whole time he's like staring like I can't believe I'm doing.

How do they communicate all that in the dick rap? Cuz couldn't it just been like I'm a kid.

She talks. She talks like she she starts like a kid voice. She know she's talking like she goes to she goes full adult in that moment.

Yeah. Oh she's like if you want to have a baby you need to [ __ ] me. And then he then he [ __ ] he bust it and he rolls over. Like I don't know why that was funny to me. like just I can't believe I had sex is but

that sounds like something I would do. Oh, I can't believe I had sex. But uh I don't even I I could spoil the end, but it's it's just

No. Yeah, that's good. Leave it open. That's Yeah, it it I is it honestly I guess the They always pie in movies. Nobody pulls out movies.

Yeah, he pied. He pied. He pied. He he sad pod and uh oh man yeah I don't want to spoil the rest of case by for real wasn't a ass movie and it is a movie like I do think I don't know I think you

so let's let's jump to this so we don't want to spoil the ending what' you guys do after the movie

I can't I definitely we definitely [ __ ] that day I'm trying to remember if it was before or after the movie so like I think if I remember right that was a before like we order food

[ __ ] [ __ ] before food cuz you know getting older got to [ __ ] before foods and stuff.

I do miss the days where you could go out munch and then get a good like now if I'm full I'm like

yeah you're done. I'm checked out maybe get some black seed oil bring myself does it

nice break out my meat. Dude, I uh I was telling Sean last night we we went to So we did the Oasis concert.

Yeah. And dude, it was first of all, I just forgot how big Oasis was of a band.

Yeah. [ __ ] They're massive. Like they perform Soldier Field. Oh, sorry. So, it was just They're only doing like I think like five cities in America.

So, we go and again I only remember like their major major hits from back in the day.

Wonder Wall. Yeah. Like Wonder Wall. Don't look back in. Don't look back in anger. Uh there's the other one. What's there was there was another Supernova or something.

Champagne Supernova. Yeah. Yeah. So, I go there and I was a little sleepy because I flew in that day and I'm like, "Oh, I'm kind of tired. I might as well drink some espresso martinis." I drank espresso martini. I drank a cup of coffee. You know, I'm caffeine sensitive.

I've seen. So, dude, I I I do that to get charged up, but then like, you know, once that's flowing, it's like I start drinking and uh we're in like a kind of like a box thing.

So, we're like, "Dude, this sucks in the box. Let's just go down and like stand on the floor. But I had being like kind of already drunk and just massively stemmed up. I bought a giant bottle of Class Aul.

Yeah. And right before we go down, I I won't give the person's name away. I don't know how they feel about it, but they were like, "Do you want some acid?"

Yeah. And we're like, "Yeah, fine." So, we take we take it just a little bit and then we go down and then like I had also smuggled the bottle of Class Zool down to the floor. So, I was like, "I just got this." I was like, "I'm not going to just let it go to waste." So, I stuffed it down the back of my pants and put tied my sweatshirt around my waist. Dude, they're like they're like this big. The bottle's enormous. So, I had it like a battery pack. And I was just like, "Let's go." And I was just, you know, I was like Spud and Billy were there and I'm having them [ __ ] cover behind me. So, we kind of kept it tight in formation. And dude, I just like we get down to this like general standing area and I like pop it out and I just set it down and put my sweatshirt on it and I would like people would be walking and like kind of be like, "What the [ __ ] is that?" I pull my sweatshirt off and I

think like eventually like that first little bit of acid started kicking in. I'd be like dude I brought down a bottle of class A help yourself. And then people were like, "Okay." And then people started actually drinking it and then we took more.

And dude, I it was I mean, thank God we did cuz I would have drank so much of that tequila and just been [ __ ] instead. It was like,

dude, I it's I'm excited for Shane to get back so we can actually like rehash it from, you know, everybody's perspective. But it was,

dude, I first of all, I I embarrassingly was just jumping around to Oasis two hours like And then I would I would sit there and I would have to like everyone would get thirsty and I whenever I'm like kind of tripping I think it's fun to go off on quests. Yeah.

So I would be like you I had to walk all the way up these flights of stairs to get water. So I was like guys I'll be back. I'll get water.

And I I went up the stair first. I was in a line down on the floor level first and I was first of all I was just waiting in line and I was like just I kept laughing about how torturous it is just to wait in line in general. I was like, "Dude, it's like an arrow to your like the part of your brain that feels important is just getting launched every second with an arrow."

Yeah. I'm just laughing being like, "Dude, standing in line is so [ __ ] funny. It's torture." But you're just really standing there. And I'm just like sitting there with this dude. I I don't I think he was like kind of a Mexican dude. So I'm just like talking to this guy and I'm like just tripping talking about standing in line, how funny it is. And he's like, "Yo, I'm trying to get some coke, man." And I was like, "Oh, cool, dude. Well, good luck with that." And then

he thought you were the guy. I Dude, I was I was bucked. And then he uh he was like, "If we go all the way upstairs, we can I heard we can there's no line if we like walk all the way up there." So that's how we discovered like to get water.

Yeah. So all night I would just be vibing to Oasis, I would catch my bros and they I'd be like, "We need to get water cuz I just I would see Shane standing there going we we were [ __ ] bucks." And then I'd be like, "You guys want some water?" And they'd be like, "Yes, please." And I would just trudge up like [ __ ] 30 flights of steps. And then just look into the concession bar. And you know, core water, it's like those plastic water bottles with a weird shape.

Yeah. There would just be an end literally an infinite supply of those things. And I was like, I'll have seven core waters, please. They kept giving me a little cardboard tray to carry them down in. And eventually they ran out of the cardboard, so I have to just like hug all the wires. Dude, it was so much fun. But the the the thing the main the main thing was from

How many times did you make the trip? How many water? At least three or four. I went on like three or four by at one point my feet were soaking. I didn't know your feet sweat from acid or I don't know. Mine did. So cuz they kept being like, "Dude, I think it's kicking in more." I was like, "This is fine."

Your first time doing it? I've never done it. Doing it like that. Yeah, for sure. I've done like a little bit of it before, but never enough to where I was like like kind of launched.

Yeah. I've never done it. It was so sick. It's might be the best ever, honestly. But dude, my feet were like soaking [ __ ] wet and I was like, I don't know if this is just like a feeling I'm getting. They were I was sweating like a pig. I confirmed later on. But dude, so I I go uh afterwards like it ends and we like were hanging in this like back area just talking for like an hour. We finally go back to Shane's room, talk for like another two hours. And then it's like and I was I was hanging on to the chill because I knew I was like because it was wearing off and I drank all that caffeine which they were making fun of me because I kept being like I had too much caffeine guys like dude you're on acid right now.

That's not the point. So I brought one of those those giant fat joints. I brought one of those thinking that like people would want to smoke it. Only like two people did. So I was just

facing a bat and they had the class Aul when I was like giving that out to people. They were skeptical and I'm like guys I'll drink it to show you it's not late. I was just on acid

completely impervious to alcohol just crushing tequila and being like here dude it's good trust messane

and dude it was and by the end the so the bottle got crushed someone show some people are passing around they're like it's done I'm like good job you guys

strangers that you met when you got down I like squatted up with some strangers down there but then like I had my sweatshirt was just laying on the ground cuz I was like I don't care about that sweatshirt anymore and as I was going to leave I was like oh [ __ ] I left my sweatshirt Dude, a guy out of nowhere goes, "Here it is." And just threw the sweatshirt up and I was like, "Okay." So now I have my sweatshirt. I'm like, "Damn, the sweatshirt found me. That's so [ __ ] funny." But dude, so I go finally I'm like um Shane would be like, "Ah, man. We should probably call it soon." And I'm like, "Yeah, let's just hang out for a little longer." I knew I was like, "I'm going to go back to my room and freak the [ __ ] out of the caffeine mix."

I I It was just I don't It was ending. And it was like Yeah. I I think it was the caffeine really. And I knew what I was in store for because if I have too much caffeine, I just lay there and like my heart's off, my like chest feels tight and I was like, I don't want to deal with this while I'm kind of tripping. That'll be terrible.

Finally, he's like, dude, cuz I had to fly the next day to go to like Yeah. like a like a kid thing.

How early was the flight? Uh, dude, I literally the flight was 100 p.m. Yeah. But it was like I'd been up all night. I didn't I like I was trying to figure out like what time do I have to get up?

Yeah. But I just set all my I like looked at my alarms. just like set like 45 alarms.

Yeah. But the So I finally I go like, "All right, go back to my room. I'm like, "Fuck, dude. Here comes the hurt locker." And I walk in and I'm just like I'm like, "I should pack." I'm like full on Jordan Peterson. Like I'm going to clean up here and get this room in order. Like I'm like walking back and forth like yes, these are my pants. I'll fold these up here. And everything just took so long. And I slowly started being like, "Dude, just act normal. You're fine. You're just packing your clothes. everything's fine. And I was like, "Yeah, but I could feel that caffeine feeling. I'm like, [ __ ] dude. This sucks." And then I was like I was like, "All right, I'm going through my routine." I start brushing my teeth.

Finally caught the mirror. And I and my first thought was like, "It's all been leading to this." Stand there in the mirror. And it's like, "Dude, all right. You feel you're not feeling great right now. You're a little anxious. How about you just like actually show up for yourself for yourself in the mirror?" I'm like, and I just in my head is like, "How about you show up for yourself and you get super present?" And I just like stared in the mirror and I was like, "I'm here now." And dude, instantly just I was like, "Shut the [ __ ] up." And I was like, "No, damn it. All right." And then and then

you said, "I'm here now." And then told yourself. And in my head, I was like, "Dude, shut up, you [ __ ] dork." And I was like, "All right, fair enough. Let me finish packing my clothes robotically." And then, dude, so I I laid there. I packed my clothes. Uh, and I just laid in bed. And it was just like, dude, I I can't sleep. I'm in a hurt locker. I'm just laying there. My heart is just like it's the caffeine. Plus, I'm still tripping. So, I'm like just feeding into it in this endless loop. So, I'm going on like breathing exercises on my YouTube to calm myself down.

Dude, for real. I'm doing just like any I'm like and I can't type. I'm like spaz typing, breathing, relaxation, anxiety into YouTube.

And uh finally, so I get this one breathing exercise. I'm like, "All right, that's cool." And then it cuts out and I'm like, "Oh, [ __ ] What happened?" Straight back to zero. And then I get another one and it's like it's like almost like hypnosis where he's like do this, breathe in this, imagine this. And then they're like,

if there's any tension in your body, give it a color. And I'm like, yes, yes, yes, it's red. I'm like imagining red. I'm like, all right, I got this. And it's like, now give it a shape. And it was like multi-dimensional poly. And I was like, that would turn into like a spiked dragon. I was like, [ __ ] dude.

You got a red dragon. It was just like it just was like a amorphous. I would close I close my eyes and it was just like weird dimensions of physical ex I'm like this isn't working very well.

So I lay there and I'm trying to give it a shape and then like it starts dissolving and coming back cuz you're supposed to like give the feeling a color then a shape and then allow it to dissolve into like whatever else it is and but I was just my visuals were too strong

after dissolving into new things. It was like Chay was transforming into different things like a at a million miles an hour and I was like, "All right, [ __ ] This isn't helping me with my eyes closed." And then eventually I I had gotten stuck on the fact that I had gotten cut out of just through like constant caffeine use, nicotine, and whatever else that I had like disconnected myself from God's natural rhythm of the days. It was like I'd been up all night. I hadn't slept. I'm like caffeine hangover.

Yeah. I mean, every obviously there was LC, but that wasn't the problem. Naturally, that was that was a solution. That was the solution for sure.

But I was laying there and I was like, I just want to get back into the natural rhythm of the day. That's all I want. Just get me back into God's natural rhythm. Please, dude. And I just like laid there and I I had to lay there for like hours for like that caffeine thing to fall away.

I was eventually it was on like blackbox Bible quote just like just laying there like, "Dude, please help me."

And uh you had your Bible study while you did. It was It was Gospel of John. Gospel of John on the YouTube black box. Fantastic. It was It was actually very nice.

What's John say that calls you? Kind of the chillest of all the gospels. Okay. I don't know. It It First of all, the beginning I didn't realize he starts like he goes back to like almost Genesis in the beginning. And I'm like, dude,

the word and I'm like, "All right, well, let's hope this [ __ ] word helps me out right now." And he goes, "It was pretty cool. That one was It goes into John the Baptist from what I remembered and listening to that and you know, all this stuff. It was tight."

But then, uh, but yeah, dude. And I woke up that morning and just had to, you know, fly to the air. I had to go to the airport and it was just, you know, no sleep, just like

and uh but yeah, ever since, dude, no caffeine. I've been back in the natural rhythm and I'm like, I can't break it. I'm like I'm I'm like terrified to break out of natural rhythm.

Just still trip back to that. No, I will. I'll eventually. But I did get all my caffeine and Nick because I I was like not sleeping that good because I'd always be on the caffeine and then I wouldn't sleep because I knew I had the caffeine and I was in this like endless loop of poor sleep. Yeah.

That I was just like dude just there was like a flash where I was like night and day rising and falling with it. Not artificially titilating myself and like it's been actually really nice.

So you're back on the right side are back. My circadian locked in right now. Nothing. No. And then it was also I mean dude cold turkey nicotine caffeine I had already been stepping down. No problem.

Yeah that's my new thing. I'm going to start saying that during that any nicotine ad reads be like dude it's literally not addictive. All you have to do is do all

you just got to get back to God's natural rhythm. All you have to do is do and get back to God's natural rhythm.

But I do feel great. I feel pretty fantastic. Hell yeah. Yeah. So the first the fir I will say the day after it was a lack of sleep thing but so it was a little wobbly. The head was little. I would like just be driving and be like, "Man, everything's cool." And I see a bumper sticker be like, "War is hell." And I'd be like, "No, just say I would just You would just think about like 40 million things." Like, "Yeah, it [ __ ] is, I guess. [ __ ] All right, let's go. Come on." I was trying to get back from the grocery store. Like,

is that residual acid? Is that what they're like? I don't I think it was It really was a lack of sleep. But yeah, I feel like the next day after cuz I like

stayed up all night, was in the Hurt Locker and then I like woke up on an hour of sleep and then flew home and just did like full family day of like going to like a dance recital all this stuff which was cool. It was very chill.

But yeah, there was like the next day even I was fine but like I could hit a thought loop where I'd be like shut it down, dude. Don't even go down that. Just chill. And then I was like the I got like three good nights of sleep.

Yeah. And I mean if the second day I was fine. Once I got good sleep I was cool but I was definitely a little my wife was like are you all right? You're a little quiet and I was just like chilling.

Shrooms won't hit you like is that I like I think for the acid I like the acid over I don't done it once but like with the thought loops for acid I feel like you can stop. You can cut them off.

You can cut them off. Whereas shrooms I feel like they just keep going but they don't linger I think for the day. That's what I was thinking we were saying. I've never I've never done acid, but I've shrooms I'll go through all those loops, but once the shrooms are done, I'll be like, "Oh, you're chill. You're chill." And you just have those thoughts like you still remember them, but you were like, "Those are kind of positive. I think I'll take those with me

for Yeah. I don't know. I I I want to I'll definitely try it again. I'll try it under different circumstances where I'm not like out all night and just obviously jacked up on too much caffeine and a bat and [ __ ]

But yeah, I don't know. It was definitely It was cool. It was definitely awesome. But it it does. The next day I was kind of thrown. But I do think like if you stay up all night, you'll get whacked out.

Good thing you were locked in on those waters. A lot of the waters, dude. I drank. So if you didn't get locked in those waters that would have been detrimental.

What happened to me early on? What happened early on is I went there and I, you know, again, I'm like I don't have like a particular like nor dislike for Oasis. I was always like, "Yeah, I remember their songs. They're cool."

But I get there and like right away I'm all my [ __ ] Like the screen comes up. I'm going, "Who the [ __ ] did these cheesy ass graph?" I was just just being just being nasty. I'm like, "These guys are so old." Anytime I would think when it started kicking in, if I thought a negative thought, it would hurt my whole body and I'd be like, "Ah, this is going to be a long night. This isn't going to be good." And then I was able to somehow be like

downregulate all negative thinking is off now just as like a survival thing. And I just ended up having the gayest funnest time ever. That's awesome.

Just jumping around to Oasis like a [ __ ] little 5-year-old. Do you sing along to any of the any of the tracks?

Probably if I had if I if there was songs I knew, but I don't I honestly don't really remember singing along.

Yeah, I feel like don't don't look back in anger would be kind of a the whole crowd would be ripping that.

Yeah. And eventually I did get into the screen pretty hard. I was like, these visuals actually are pretty.

But no, it's it's it is easier to control for sure. Like it's way easier. I feel I feel if you do too much obviously you probably that's when it gets bad.

I don't know. I just remember trying to write down creative ideas last time I did it and then looking at them the next day. I mean like I I wrote down I thought it was great. It says everything is about sex and

burgers sex. Well, I was watching I was watching luxury fragrance commercials and I watched a bunch of them. I was like they're all about if you smell like this you can get [ __ ] Like I was I was freaking out.

Dude, there was a I sent myself an email halfway through thinking it was like the coolest [ __ ] I thought it was the coolest [ __ ] ever. And I was like, dude, I think literally Wonder Wall came on and Shane's just like staring at them playing a Wonder Wall. And I was like, do you want to read my email I wrote to myself? He was just like, dude, not right now. This is the whole point of the concert. So, this is the song we're all here for.

This is the email I was trying to interrupt his Wonder Wall for. I was like sitting there was during a water trip. I wrote an email to myself and I thought I was like, "Dude, this is the most profound thing that's ever been uttered." It was like, "Your nervous system is your responsibility, is your vehicle for making it through life. Please don't speed."

You don't speed. You were You were thinking about that caffeine the whole time.

I wrote that down. I was like, "That'll change the world tomorrow." All right. I kept trying like, "Seriously, dude, you should read my email." And he'd be like, "Dude, no, I'm not reading your [ __ ] email."

You thought somebody was going to read that and be like, "Holy shit." Oh my god. There was like 40 other emails and I I was like, "I can't send myself emails all night. I have to chill. I got to chill and enjoy [ __ ] Oasis.

Going to start a revolution from my bed." It was fun. It was very funny. The email was cracking me up. I was like, it just sat in my pocket. I was like, I can't believe that email's in my [ __ ] pocket right now. Such a sick such a sick email to myself.

The secrets to the universe in my pocket right now. There was another one. There was a bunch of stuff I started to like write and I was like, it's just a waste of time not doing this. It was so fun though.

Yeah, we got the [ __ ] owl. Well, do you guys have anything you guys want to plug? Anything you guys want to Jake the plug?

Uh, you got I was gonna say panties in the mouth. Please listen. Uh, Optimum Knocks. The next one is uh September 16th. Please come to that. They've been great. Thanks again, Matt.

Of course. Um, and uh Oh, and I'm going to be at Atlanta Helium October 23rd. Please, please come to that.

Um, I'm going to be in Dallas on October 26th at Dallas Comedy Club. It's a Sunday, 7 p.m. If you can make it, um, you can find tickets. Just go to my Instagram Eganism.

Hell yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks, man, for having me on. Appreciate it. Of course, bro.

Yeah. Thank you, man. Of course.

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