Why We Should Absolutely Make Contact With This ANCIENT Amazon Tribe

What this episode is about

The content discusses the potential value of making contact with an ancient Amazon tribe, emphasizing the insights that could be gained about environmental conservation and indigenous cultures. It highlights Paul Rosalie's expertise as a conservationist focused on the Amazon jungle and critiques the quality of long-form interview podcasts, contrasting them with more engaging discussions hosted by Joe Rogan.

Key takeaways

• Forget about bright ideas; some people think Minneapolis is a solution, but that's a cold take.
• Lex Fridman's guests range from scientists to theorists, showcasing that curiosity knows no political bounds.
• Joe Rogan's engaging interviews prove that in podcasting, charisma trumps content—many just don't have 'it'.
• Stumbling upon an uncontacted tribe raises deep ethical questions: are they the last of a world we disrupted?
• These tribes are prehistoric survivors—imagine showing them an iPhone; they’d think it’s alien tech!

Who speaks in this episode?

• Matt Walsh (Host) · 14 min speaking
• Paul Rosolie (Guest) · 2 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Amazon
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Jungle Keeper, Percy Fawcett

Notable quotes from "Why We Should Absolutely Make Contact With This ANCIENT Amazon Tribe"

• Doesn't live there. And in this latest conversation, Paul Rosley brought to Lexus show some footage that he Paul captured of an unconted tribe in the Amazon, which is just really fascinating. objectively, this is the most.

  about Amazon · at 2:05

• Faucet encountering the tribes. We've heard of anecdotal accounts of the tribes. This is the first time that the tribes have been filmed, that we can hear their voices, that…

  about Percy Fawcett · at 4:15

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Paul Rosolie — Person · Referenced guest/expert (conservationist interviewed on Lex Fridman) · 5 mentions
  Presented as a conservationist and Amazon expert who brought rare footage of an uncontacted Amazon tribe to Lex Fridman's show, serving as the catalyst for the segment's discussion.
• Percy Fawcett — Person · Historical reference (explorer used for comparison) · 1 mention · first at 4:11
  Invoked to frame the footage as historically significant by comparing it to early explorer accounts of encountering Amazon tribes.

Products & tech

• Jungle Keeper — Product · Incidental mention · 1 mention · first at 4:42
  Mentioned in passing as a shirt worn by an anthropologist interacting with an uncontacted tribe.
  And threw it to the anthropologist. And then the anthropologist walked it off and threw it to them. So over the shoulder of that uncontacted naked warrior is a Jungle Keeper shirt with the logo showing.

Places & events

• Amazon — Place · Setting · 1 mention · first at 1:58
  The Amazon jungle is the primary setting discussed in the context of uncontacted tribes and conservation efforts.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 before Democrats get any get any bright ideas. I mean, they look at that video and they think, you know what? You know where those people should live? Minneapolis. All right. Finally, I thought this was uh cool. This is from Lex Freiedman's show, and I like his show. I think it's interesting. I like that he talks to different sorts of people, scientists, archaeologists, people with strange theories and ideas about the world. Uh, I don't listen to very many podcasts, but if I ever am going to listen to one, it will it will be about a subject that has nothing to do with politics and I I can't stand the especially the long form interview podcast that are just rambling 19-hour conversations about nothing with someone who is not remotely interesting.

0:43 The podcast where it's like, hey, we're sitting down with this person. We're going to talk for seven hours. Who cares what that person? They have nothing interesting to say whatsoever. The only person, literally the only person who knows how to do the long kind of unfocused conversational style of interview and can do it with basically anybody and make it interesting is Joe Rogan. He's the He's the master of the art form. Everybody else sucks at it. Everyone else sucks at it. So, if you're thinking, "What about this person?"

1:14 Yeah, that person, too. everyone else who tries to do the long conversational kind of long form uh podcast interview stuff like everyone else is bad at it. He's the only one who knows how to do it. Actually, I just listened to Joe's whole interview with u Matt Damon and Ben Affleck and they basically talk about movies for like two and a half hours and I thought it was I thought it was great. It was it was very interesting. And most long form podcasts though are are terrible. And uh but this is one that you know I think has some interesting stuff. And in this case he was interviewing again uh Paul Rosalie who's a conservationist and is an expert on the Amazon jungle. I think he lives in the Amazon jungle or spends spends a lot of time there if he doesn't live there. And in this latest conversation, uh, Paul Rosley brought to Lexus show some footage that he Paul captured of an unconted tribe in the Amazon, which is

2:18 just really fascinating. I mean, objectively, this is the most fascinating thing that has happened on anybody's podcast, including mine, in a long time. It's like, it's hard to beat something like this. Let's uh let's watch it. See, as they come closer, they start laying down there. See, he's laying down his bow and arrow. And now they're all standing in a relaxed Yeah. And smiling.

2:42 Are they smiling? Smiles come at some point. I would say that one of these guys seemed like uh in a leadership position. He did most of the talking.

2:52 Did you have a sense of hierarchy at all? Like the boss? Again, there was just these two dominant guys and like this guy and one other guy who looked almost like him, like his brother. Yeah.

3:02 Gesturing. Wow. But see even that as he's pointing, what are you what are you what are you pointing at? You guys are nuts. You guys are nuts. Oh, you see as though they're rushing in. There's this desperation. They're hungry. We had a we had a great moment where we we'd given them the the the plantains. We' given them the bananas. And and he'd said, "Look, this is that's it." He said, "We we've given you what what you asked for. You asked for bananas. We we don't cut the trees here. All of us here are not tree cutters. We're indigenous people."

3:54 And and he he couldn't explain who the hell we were, but they were like, "We don't cut the trees. We're not the lockers. But then they don't have boats. They don't have stone tools. They don't Imagine if you showed them ice,

4:05 you know? They wouldn't. This is historic. I mean, it's the I mean, you hear Percy Faucet encountering the tribes. We've heard of anecdotal accounts of the tribes. This is the first time that the tribes have been filmed, that we can hear their voices, that there's a documented interaction happening. I mean this now look how comfortable he's getting. He's so close. They asked him for his shirt. He gave his shirt. Incredible.

4:33 They asked him for his pants. He gave his pants. He was in his underwear. You see this? The shirt that's over his shoulder. Ignasio took off his Jungle Keeper shirt and threw it to the anthropologist. And then the anthropologist walked it off and threw it to them. So over the shoulder of that uncontacted naked warrior is a Jungle Keeper shirt with the logo showing.

4:57 So I mean it's genuinely historic. We we've never seen footage this clear and up close of um uncontacted tribes. Usually the footage is like Bigfoot grainy off in the distance and that sort of thing, but this is very vivid. Obviously, if you watching the video podcast, you saw very vivid, very clear. And um it's fascinating. He said these people don't have boats or stone tools. That means these are these are literally prehistoric people like pre- stone age. Okay? The ancient Egyptians are futuristic compared to these people. If these people stumbled upon technology from 4,000 years ago, they would be flammixed, don't have boats. I mean, human beings first started using boats like 10,000 years ago.

5:52 And they don't even have that. A boat is 10,000y old technology. And it's far more advanced than uh what these people have. So that's fascinating again on an anthropological level. And it also raises all kinds of questions which uh are forbidden like if Europeans had never come to the new world would the which we're told by the left that's what they should have happened never should have come here we are we we stole this land we're intruders well if Europeans had never come would the entire hemisphere still be stuck in this state naked carrying spears perpetually living in a sort of prehistoric condition.

6:41 Now, granted, some of the tribes in in the Americas were more advanced than this. Certainly, the Mesoamerican tribes, uh, many of the North American tribes were more advanced than this, but all of them, all of them were thousands of years behind the Europeans of the 16th century. And would they still be there if that contact had never been made? And I think the answer is obviously yes. Because this is what happened when you have these native tribes and you really don't make any contact. You go out of your way to not contact them. What happens is that they just don't advance at all.

7:19 And that raises the next question. Would that have been better? Would it have been better if all the tribes of the new world had been left in the year 5000 BC, give or take? I think definitely no. I mean, would anybody want to live like that? We know about the uh the noble savage myth, you know, this idea that the native people lived in a state of blissful harmony with nature. But the truth, and this is one of the reasons why I find the unconted tribes to be so interesting, is that it get like go you can look in a time machine. I mean, it's like looking in a time machine. It's like someone coming from the past and showing you a magic giving you a magic crystal or something from a movie where you can see what's happening in the past. Um, and so you could do that. We have that right now. You look into the past and what you find is that people in the far distant past or people today who are living as though

8:22 they're in the far distant past, they live brutal lives. brutal and very short lives where rather than being in a state of harmony, they were constantly afraid of everyone and everything around them. And for good reason. And they and they suffered in some of the worst ways imaginable and died very young, often of causes that these days are extremely preventable. you know, things like your teeth rotting out of your skull and you get infections in your mouth that kill you. I mean, this is the kind of thing that doesn't happen in the modern world, but very common.

9:07 Um, and not only did they not have the technological advances that we have today or any of the uh comforts that we have, they also didn't have much in the way of art or music or they have a very primitive form of both of those things, but nothing like the richness of um of you know music as we know it today. Well, not I wouldn't say the modern pop music is very rich, but you know the music that we know uh certainly they didn't have a written language. They didn't have books or anything like that. And so not a single person who's honest would look at the unconted tribe frozen in time and think man.

9:51 I'd love to live how they live. Man, it's too bad I'm I'm not living like that. No one thinks I mean I've visited a primitive tribe, not uncontacted. This was the Messiah tribe in Kenya who they have a lot of contact with the outside world, but they do live in mud huts and you know they live again in sub primitive kind of way. Their way of living hasn't changed in in 4,000 years. Everything in the village smells like sewage, both human and cow in origin. There are flies everywhere. Uh, one there's like things you don't even think about, especially if you have this kind of Disney version of the past in your head where like everything smells. Everything is dirty. Everything is dirty and gross and everything smells. Flies everywhere, crawling on everything and everyone all the time.

10:39 And it's just not a life that anyone who's lived a better life would want to experience for any extended period of time. When we think about So when when we fantasize about living an old-fashioned life, you know, going off the grid, something I do fantasize about where, you know, that kind of thing. We're thinking about, well, wouldn't it be great to live in a nice cabin in the woods with a fireplace, comfortable bed, lots of books, running water, certainly at least a stove, you know, a wood burning stove. Uh, and so when you when you think about that, you're you're fantasizing about living maybe 120 years in the past. And even that in reality would be much much harder than your fantasies account for. Uh, the kind of romanticized view. like in real life it' be it's a very hard life but this isn't 120 years this is like going back 12,000 years and uh you know you might think hey I'd love to go back 50 years 100

11:37 years you don't want to go back 12,000 years nobody wants that is not a life anybody wants to live and that leads us to two conclusions and one is that colonialism was a great good was by and large a benevolent act. Um not perfectly, not all the time. These are not perfect people, but by and large a great good. And then the second is which I'm which I'm a little bit I'm I'm certain of that first conclusion. The second conclusion, I'm a little I could, you know, I I could see the argument, but I think the second conclusion is that we should make contact with all of these people and introduce them to the modern world. Which isn't to say that we should put them on a plane and fly them here to be uh immigrants um before Democrats get any get any bright ideas. I mean, they look at that video and they think, you know what? You know where those people should live?

12:37 Minneapolis. All right. We need those people living in Minneapolis. Yep. Get those people to Minneapolis immediately. Get them registered to vote. Let's go. I'm not saying that. What I'm What I'm saying is I mean they could continue to live where they live. But um I think introducing them in some way to the modern world is probably the right thing to do. And you know, as fascinating as this kind of footage is and as sad as it would be in some ways to see these tribes basically disappear, that's kind of a selfish thing. I think when Westerners look at that and say, "Oh, that would be so sad." You know, if you modernize and these tribes disappear, it's a sad thing. Well, that's a selfish perspective that we have because we just think it's interesting that people live this way. And so for us, it's a it's a it's a novelty. It's an interesting thing. It's an interesting video to watch.

13:33 But in reality, their lives are quite terrible in many ways. And they're suffering and dying young needlessly all the time for re like the you got a bunch of problems. We can solve a lot of them easily. It's all all the ways to solve it. It's all out here. And um I don't know, think about how you would feel if I was living in some tribe somewhere and the whole rest of the world is 10,000 years in the future and they never told me. I you know, if I ever found out about that, I think I'd be a little bit upset. I think I would look at that and say, "You got Why? Why do you guys tell us? You never told me this. you guys have toothpaste and air conditioning.

14:27 Um I don't know. Of course, introducing or making contact, there's diseases that are spread. There's all kinds of things. So, and um and and making contact the the tribes themselves are quite could be quite violent. And so, doing that is a dangerous proposition. But, you know, o overall, I think that's probably the direction that this should head. And all of that is the lesson once again that uh colonialism is a wonderful thing. If you'd like to see what else I have to say, you can access my full show by going to dailywire.com or by going to the Mattwalsh Show Twitter page. Hope to see you there.

15:02 Godspeed.

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Why We Should Absolutely Make Contact With This ANCIENT Amazon Tribe"?

Matt Walsh (Host), Paul Rosolie (Guest).

What is "Why We Should Absolutely Make Contact With This ANCIENT Amazon Tribe" about?

The content discusses the potential value of making contact with an ancient Amazon tribe, emphasizing the insights that could be gained about environmental conservation and indigenous cultures. It highlights Paul Rosalie's expertise as a conservationist focused on the Amazon jungle and critiques the quality of long-form interview podcasts, contrasting them with more engaging discussions hosted…

What is mentioned in this Matt Walsh episode?

4 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Amazon, Paul Rosolie, Percy Fawcett, Jungle Keeper. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Why We Should Absolutely Make Contact With This ANCIENT Amazon Tribe"?

The episode runs 15 min; the transcript is about 2,481 words in 23 timestamped sections.

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