Activist Judges Try to Fight Trump's Immigration and Deportation Efforts, with Lowry and Cooke

What this episode is about

The content discusses a legal ruling by a federal judge, Angela Anna Reyes, who has temporarily halted the Trump administration's efforts to revoke the temporary protected status for nearly 400,000 Haitians, arguing that there is no adequate justification for such a sudden termination. The judge's decision reflects broader concerns about the implications of changing immigration policies on lawful immigrants and highlights a perceived ideological divide regarding immigration enforcement.

Key takeaways

• When temporary becomes perennial, American immigration law faces a bizarre twist of fate and judiciary interpretation.
• The 'magic wand' of presidential power has a two-way streak; who knew revoking a status could be this controversial?
• Judicial decisions now play political hopscotch—one ruling enables, another derails. The law seems to have a sense of humor.
• Congressional delegation of power turns presidents into kingpins—who knew immigration would be the test of executive penmanship?
• A judge's ill-timed February 31st blunder demonstrates that even the law can't escape the absurd; is judicial oversight in crisis?

Who speaks in this episode?

• Megyn Kelly (Guest) · 7 min speaking
• Lowry (Guest) · 3 min speaking
• Cooke (Guest) · 1 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Chrissy Gnome, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, Angela Anna Reyes
2. 3:00 – 6:00: Angela Anna Reyes
3. 6:00 – 9:00: Donald Trump, Joe Biden, Supreme Court Justice, Chrissy Gnome
4. 9:00 – 11:11: Donald Trump, Supreme Court Justice, Angela Anna Reyes, Birch Gold Group

Notable quotes from "Activist Judges Try to Fight Trump's Immigration and Deportation Efforts, with Lowry and Cooke"

• District Court of Washington where she says there's a there's a hostility to non-white immigrants that Christy Gnome has shown. She goes on to say the government has not cited any reason to end temporary protected status for.

  about Chrissy Gnome · at 1:12

• Struck down by a judge. But what is conspicuously missing from the first case we were discussing, the judge Reyes case with temporary protected status, is any specific references to the statute.

  about Angela Anna Reyes · at 5:35

• And Haitians qualified for temporary protected status and Joe Biden did. And Donald Trump is allowed to say that they no longer do. If I think it would be silly, but if Donald…

  about Donald Trump · at 7:15

• There is a never- ending list of reasons that gold has risen over 700% in the last 20 years. and a never- ending list of reasons smart Americans diversify a portion of their savings.

  about Birch Gold Group · at 10:06

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Donald Trump — Person · Referenced political actor (subject of legal/policy dispute) · 5 mentions · first at 0:33
  Central figure in the discussion: the segment debates whether Trump/the Trump administration can revoke Temporary Protected Status (TPS) and criticizes judicial intervention blocking that action.
• Joe Biden — Person · Referenced political actor (prior policy decision-maker) · 4 mentions · first at 0:19
  Used as the contrast point: the speakers argue Biden granted TPS (and allowed entry) and that the same executive authority should allow a later president to revoke it.
  Whether or not he got to make it. This isn't like the tariffs area where it is much more cabined. So Joe Biden was allowed to determine that Haiti and Haitians qualified for…
• Angela Anna Reyes — Person · Referenced judge (decision-maker in discussed case) · 3 mentions · first at 1:10
  Identified as the federal judge who blocked the Trump administration’s attempt to end TPS for Haitians; the speakers characterize her reasoning as ideological and insufficiently grounded in statute.
• Chrissy Gnome — Person · Referenced executive official (DHS Secretary in segment framing) · 4 mentions · first at 1:18
  Discussed as the DHS Secretary whose statements/actions are cited by the judge as evidence of hostility/animus; the speakers dispute that framing and treat her as part of the administration’s immigration enforcement posture.

Concepts & topics

• Supreme Court Justice — Concept · Key argument · 3 mentions · first at 6:52
  Discussed as the final authority on legal disputes, particularly in immigration cases.
  And the Supreme Court has historically treated this area as non-justicable.

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Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 Speaking of crazy things in courtrooms, this judge, this judge who late yesterday tried to stop the Trump administration and for now has stopped the Trump administration from removing temporary protected status from Haitians. So Joe Biden let some nearly 400,000 Haitians into the country and said with my magic wand I declare you temporary protected status which means you're not an illegal you can't be kicked out because you've got my magic you know uh designation and um Trump came in and said I'm lifting that that we're not we're not going to wait that out. I'm lifting that right now. And this judge has said, and this is the same judge who said that Trump wasn't allowed to say transgender people can't serve in the military. And she was reversed for a a hysterical opinion she issued there. And uh now she's at it again saying Trump as the sitting commander-in-chief does not have the power to remove with his pen what Joe

1:03 Biden granted with his. And on and on, you can hear the woman's ideology. Uh Angela Anna Reyes is her name. Federal District Court of Washington um where she says there's a there's a hostility to non-white immigrants that Christy Gnome has shown. She uh goes on to say the government has not cited any reason to end temporary protected status for Haitians abruptly and its approach is not in the public interest. She's decided quote the government does not cite any reason termination must occur post haste. Secretary Gnome complains of strains that unlawful immigrants place on our immigration enforcement system.

1:43 Her answer turned 300,000 352,959 lawful immigrants into unlawful ones overnight. She complains of strains to our economy. Her answer, turn employed lawful immigrants who contribute billions in taxes into the legally unemployable. She complains of strains to our health care system. Her answer, turn the insured into the uninsured. This approach is many things. In the public interest is not one of them. What? Who died and elected her president? Rich,

2:16 she's the the new DHS secretary, I guess. So, we saw this in the first term as well where some judges apparently consider unilateral executive action a one-way ratchet. So, Obama could do things unilaterally and then when Trump just wanted to reverse it, judges said, "No, no, you can't do that. That would be crazy." And this is a version of that made even worse by the fact that this is temporary protected status with emphasis on temporary which means eventually it's supposed to go away and be reversed. Look, I don't think it's great. It's a bad situation for these Haitians. You had an administration letting him in with the assumption, oh, you get to stay forever. That's the way temporary protected statuses very often work. But under the law, Trump obviously can revoke it. And this just goes to the the broad a broader aspect of this whole immigration debate over the last year where the left and Democrats and Biden,

3:05 they created facts on the ground by letting a bunch of people in either legally kind of laundering people otherwise wouldn't get in through the these various means, the CPB app or this TPS status for Haitians and others and or or just just let them flood in and give them a notice to appear that is going to be ignored. And then when Trump comes in and says, "Okay, I'm going to revoke the temporary status. I'm going to, you know, end CPP. I'm going to go after and deport these people." Like, "No, you can't do that. This is the status quo." And a a big problem are Hollywood celebrities, folks in Minneapolis. They now take it as a given that the status quo of ignoring the law, the black and white letter of the law was a status quo such as that it's an intolerable act of aggression. If someone actually dares to do what the law says should be done, you detain the illegal immigrants until their

3:57 proceedings reach reach a final conclusion. And if they can stay, fine. And if they go, you deport them. That's what it says in the law. And Trump's offense here is just trying to actually apply the law for a change.

4:10 I mean, now we have a pair of rulings over the past 72 hours. This one we discussed yesterday a bit with Jonathan Turley, the one from the judge in Texas, uh who who decided that the the little boy and his dad who were uh arrested by uh Border Patrol in Minneapolis and shipped down getting ready for removal back to their native country that he had to be released. they both had to be released and finished his opinion with a picture of the little boy in the in the dog hat um with the wrong date said it was dated February 31st was lecturing and sanctimonious throughout the opinion I mean speaking of Scalia Charlie he would be horrified at the attempts to legislate from the bench we are seeing these days

4:59 yeah that second opinion you mentioned was honestly one of the most unhinged things I've ever read from a judge to the point at which I initially thought it had been faked. The February 31st made me wonder if it was a joke. That was not law and he's not a judge.

5:17 The annoying part of this, I think, is that these decisions are given the impromaturur of law. And so those who favor them can say, "Look, the Trump administration once again has been struck down by a judge." But what is conspicuously missing from the first case we were discussing, the judge Reyes case with temporary protected status, is any specific references to the statute. Now I am, as you know, a big critic of the way that Congress has over the years delegated powers to the president. There are far too many laws in my view that say in the judgment of the president or in the estimation of the secretary or that just hand sweeping powers that were reserved to Congress to the president.

6:13 But Congress has done that and it's done that a lot in the area of immigration. And one of the things that it has allowed the president to do, for example, is determine if there are any countries uh from which uh immigrants might pose a threat. You can shut those down. Another thing that Congress has allowed the president to do is determine whether or not people deserve temporary protected status and when that temporary protected status stops. The laws here aren't particularly complicated. They don't say the president has to file a report that meets 17 different criteria.

6:49 They say in the public interest. They say in the judgment of the president. And the Supreme Court has historically treated this area as non-justicable. That is to say that the Supreme Court does not decide whether or not the president's judgment was correct, only whether or not he got to make it. This isn't like the tariffs area uh where it is much more cabined. So Joe Biden was allowed to determine that Haiti Haiti and Haitians qualified for temporary protected status and Joe Biden did. And Donald Trump is allowed to say that they no longer do. If I think it would be silly, but if Donald Trump tomorrow said Britain is such a mess that the British are entitled to temporary protected status, no judge could say that that was wrong. And no judge could say that a subsequent president who made the opposite determination was wrong either.

7:44 We've already had a Supreme Court case that is almost identical to this one. We know what the Supreme Court, this Supreme Court thinks about this matter. It has come up before. It will come up again. This will be appealed all the way up to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court is going to say, I think what I just said, which is this is a non-judicial question. The same power that allowed Biden to let them in allows Donald Trump to send them home. It doesn't really matter whether people like that, think it's fair or mean or great or bad. She mentioned insurance, employment, economic contributions.

8:17 Those things are not in the law. If they were, she'd have a point, but they're not. So, he gets to do this in the way Biden got to do it. And the judges do not get to second guessess him unless there is a law that says to the contrary. This is the second time now that she's tried to overturn a decision by Trump or his secretary uh thanks to quote animus. The trans uh opinion she issued was all about his alleged animus and Pete Hex says alleged animist towards trans people. This one's all about the alleged animus of Christy Gnome to people from third world countries. and they quote her saying stuff similar what to what Trump has said like I don't think she used the term hole countries but she came close like we just don't want these people here anymore they leech off of us and we're they're out and she's using that to say this is a racial animus that's motivating this meanwhile good luck with that if they actually do

9:13 look at I mean Trump very clearly wants to stop these immigrants from everywhere I mean he's look what he did at the southern border he doesn't want anybody here on on temporary protected status like I don't know if there's another example of a group of white immigrants from like Denmark who he's allowing. They probably got shipped off to Greenland by Trump anyway and a dog sled. Um, so this is this woman's a problem. She's an activist and she's using her own priors to try to sweep Christine Gnome and Pete Hexath and Donald Trump all under this, you know, you you're full of hatred banner. And I like she's going to have to get her hand slapped again by the Supreme Court.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Activist Judges Try to Fight Trump's Immigration and Deportation Efforts, with Lowry and Cooke"?

Megyn Kelly (Guest), Lowry (Guest), Cooke (Guest).

What is "Activist Judges Try to Fight Trump's Immigration and Deportation Efforts, with Lowry and Cooke" about?

The content discusses a legal ruling by a federal judge, Angela Anna Reyes, who has temporarily halted the Trump administration's efforts to revoke the temporary protected status for nearly 400,000 Haitians, arguing that there is no adequate justification for such a sudden termination. The judge's decision reflects broader concerns about the implications of changing immigration policies on…

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6 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Donald Trump, Joe Biden, Supreme Court Justice, Angela Anna Reyes, Chrissy Gnome. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Activist Judges Try to Fight Trump's Immigration and Deportation Efforts, with Lowry and Cooke"?

The episode runs 11 min; the transcript is about 1,925 words in 16 timestamped sections.

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