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Anti-ICE Agitators and Don Lemon Disrupt MN Church Service, with Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Anti-ICE Agitators and Don Lemon Disrupt MN Church Service, with Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh", an episode of Megyn Kelly published January 19, 2026 (1 h 41 min, about 18,806 words). It mentions 15 people, works and ideas, including ICE, William Kelly, BLM, Naima Levy Armstrong, Real History with Matt Walsh.

What this episode is about

The discussion centers around recent incidents in Minneapolis where anti-ICE activists disrupted church services, raising concerns about local leadership's silence on the issue. Critics argue that such actions reflect a broader disrespect for religious practices and the emotional significance of worship, especially for vulnerable congregants.

Key takeaways

  • When protestors invade churches, they disrupt not only worship but the sanctity of personal grief and hope.
  • Local leaders' silence on protests shows a troubling tolerance for harassment overshadowing community values and respect.
  • Don Lemon’s advocacy for 'sitting and taking it' redefines journalism: now a platform for provocateurs, not truth-seekers.
  • The irony of 'protest for justice' turning churches into battlegrounds highlights an alarming disconnect within activist motives.
  • Misinformation, like the 'hands up, don't shoot' myth, reveals how narratives can shape actions that lose sight of reality.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 10:00: ICE, BLM, Mark Levvin
  2. – 20:00: Naima Levy Armstrong, William Kelly, University of St. Thomas
  3. – 30:00: Daily Wire (company)
  4. – 50:00: William Kelly
  5. – 1:00:00: Real History with Matt Walsh, Daily Wire (company)
  6. – 1:10:00: William Kelly
  7. – 1:20:00: Done with Debt, Real History with Matt Walsh, Birch Gold Group, Daily Wire (company)
  8. – 1:30:00: Real History with Matt Walsh, ICE, St. Dominique, Daily Wire (company)
  9. – 1:40:00: Real History with Matt Walsh, Howard Zinn, Daily Wire (company)
  10. – 1:40:33: Howard Zinn

Notable quotes from "Anti-ICE Agitators and Don Lemon Disrupt MN Church Service, with Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh"

  • Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly show. Anti-ICE activists reach a new low. this is beyond.
    about ICE · at
  • Whole point was to upset Christians. I'm sorry. I'm getting sick of this Okay? I'm sick of this. Like it was three weeks ago we had Mark Levvin calling Jack Pobic a crackpot…
    about Mark Levvin · at
  • Got begging for these people to leave, which is totally appropriate, too. But they did not. They stayed for another 45 minutes according to Alpha News, which we love. They did…
    about BLM · at
  • The whole protest was organized by Nikima Levy Armstrong. She's a longtime BLM activist. She's a lawyer and an idiot and a former law professor at the University of St. Thomas in Minneapolis.
    about Naima Levy Armstrong · at
  • Again, I'm using that term very loosely, were just chanting generic woke mantras, you're wrong. One I mentioned a moment ago, is named William Kelly. According to Right Angle…
    about William Kelly · at
  • Slaveholders in the South? Some facts don't make it into the textbooks. We're going to set the record straight. It's time for the truth. The history they don't teach in public…
    about Real History with Matt Walsh · at
  • Brazil and many more went to the Caribbean. 1.2 million went to Jamaica, more than 900,000 to St. Dominique and 889,000 to Cuba. The grand total of slaves brought to the future…
    about St. Dominique · at
  • Talking all about how at her leftist New York City private school, they loved Howard Zinn. That's all they used to teach the kids history. That guy hates America. So, this…
    about Howard Zinn · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • William Kelly — Person · Referenced activist/agitator (criticized) · 3 mentions · first at
    Identified as a named participant in the church disruption; described as a paid agitator who confronts parishioners and harasses ICE agents.
  • Naima Levy Armstrong — Person · Referenced organizer (criticized) · 1 mention · first at
    Named as the organizer of the church disruption; described as a longtime BLM activist and lawyer; quoted as saying the church will 'never be the same.'
  • Mark Levvin — Person · Referenced media figure · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as having called someone a 'crackpot' in a prior incident used to frame a broader claim of hostility toward Christians.
  • Howard Zinn — Person · Referenced author/historian (contextual) · 2 mentions · first at
    Not substantively discussed in the provided excerpt; likely referenced in the broader episode as part of a critique of left-leaning historical narratives.
  • St. Thomas Aquinas — Person · 1 mention

Companies & orgs

  • ICE — Company · Business focus · 2 mentions · first at
    Central to the discussion about immigration enforcement and protests in Minneapolis.
  • BLM — Company · Business focus · 1 mention · first at
    Organization involved in the protests and disruptions discussed.
  • University of St. Thomas — Company · Referenced institution · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in relation to a BLM activist's background.
    The whole protest was organized by Nikima Levy Armstrong. She's a longtime BLM activist. She's a lawyer and an idiot and a former law professor at the University of St. Thomas in Minneapolis.
  • Daily Wire (company) — Company · 6 mentions · first at
    YEAH. OKAY. The Daily Wire's Megan Basham reports this guy's been previously linked to a group disrupting church services in Washington DC, including one incident where the.
  • Done with Debt — Company · 3 mentions · first at
    Of debt, it's go time. This is one of those moments where timing matters. And let me tell you about done with debt.
  • Birch Gold Group — Company · 1 mention · first at
    And diversified. Will this be the year you decide to talk to somebody from Birch Gold Group? You know you've been thinking about it. They use an educated approach with a deep understanding of macroeconomics.
  • 3 Day Blinds — Company · 1 mention

Products & tech

Places & events

  • St. Dominique — Place · Referenced location · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned in passing during the discussion.

Sponsors

  • 3-Day Blinds — Product · Explicit sponsor · 2 mentions
    Advertised during the podcast with promotional language.
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Full transcript with timestamps

Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly show. Anti-ICE activists reach a new low. I mean, this is beyond. They've decided now because there's been absolutely no crackdown by local police that they can get away with storming churches and disrupting Sunday worship. It happened yesterday and the city's Democratic leaders as of noon Eastern today, nearly 24 hours later, have said nothing. Mr. Get the out of Minneapolis. Tough guy, Mayor Fry. Oh, so quick to tell ICE to get out. Nothing. Nothing. He said not a word. Which clearly means he's fine with it. So is Governor Walls. They're fine seeing Christians including children harassed literally in the pews at Sunday mass by these cretins who call themselves activists who mean to harass any law-abiding motan especially those in worship because all these people worship is the god of wokeness the god of leftism that's their god I mean that's

part of the problem here we've talked about how uniformly They're unattractive. They tend to be fat, unckempt. You can tell they smell bad. And the other piece of it is they're godless. So, they think nothing nothing of going into a mass and disrupting people's private time with Jesus. That's fine by them. They don't care what the people are going through. And because they never go to church, you see, they don't realize that when you go to mass, you can become emotional. It brings up a lot for a lot of people. It's often the closest you feel to God and Jesus in your entire week. Some people are there praying over lost loved ones. Some people are tearful. Some people are really struggling in their personal lives. And this is the closest they can feel towards salvation, towards something larger than themselves. But these leftists don't understand that language. You see, they don't understand

those sentiments. So, they're fine harassing these people whether they're hurting or not, including children who look scared in the pews. aided and emedded of course by Don Lemon. Don Lemon who reveled in it and lectured half of the parishioners about how they really had an obligation to sit there and take it. That this this was American as apple pie. Sit there and take it. That was Don Lemon's basic message to these parishioners. He's a disgusting fool. Now, there's a question about whether he's also a criminal. Um that's kind of irrelevant to me. I mean, if he broke the law, I'm fine seeing him prosecuted. But I actually think what's more important is how disgusting he is. He He's wearing a a cap that reads like lemon head or whatever his little lemon like self-promotional like to and satanic. That's how that felt. Self-promotional and satanic. Can you imagine? Can you I mean, think about

it. Just think about it. I know most of you guys are not reporters, but you are individuals in America who live your lives and probably a large portion of you go to church or services. Can you imagine walking into somebody else's worship and disrupting it and then you as a so-called journalist starting to lecture them about how they needed to take it about how it was it was important and it was quintessentially American and totally allowed under the first amendment. This guy's fall from what was once the pinnacle of cable news, I really I'm not saying much, has been so precipitous and stunning. I mean, not to some of us who saw what a disgusting person he was a long time ago, but wow, this is like, okay, no one should ever look at this guy again. Okay, no, nobody should ever be watching his disgusting feed. His his his disgusting behavior dovetales perfectly with who he is as a so-called journalist

and as a man. It happened at the city's church in St. Paul, Minnesota. Protesters say they took aim at that church because one of the church's pastors is allegedly involved in ICE operations. We actually don't know whether that's true or not. We were unable to confirm that. Uh, but they could have gone to that church and requested a meeting with that pastor to talk about their differences. Not that they had any right to do that. They had absolutely no right to talk to anybody. They they didn't. But they didn't even try. They did not even attempt to have a discussion with him outside of Sunday's service because the whole point was to upset Christians. I'm sorry. I'm getting sick of this Okay? I'm sick of this. Like it was three weeks ago we had Mark Levvin calling Jack Pobic a crackpot with his picture holding the rosary. Now we've got open season on Christians while they're in celebrating Jesus at their

Sunday worship. What the f? Something's happening here and it's satanic. They decided to interrupt Sunday worship to deliver their message of quote justice for Renee good and for good measure this is just perfect for good measure chance of hands up don't shoot which is based on a lie about the 2014 police involved shooting of Michael Brown the Here's what's so crazy Sunonny Hen of the View amongst other idiot leftists actually think Margaret Hoover was involved in it too who's not a leftist but behaved like a in this clip did the hands up don't shoot on the set of CNN in the wake of the shooting of Michael Brown. Michael Brown is the reason Michael Brown got shot by the officer in Ferguson, Missouri. Michael Brown attacked the officer as several witnesses, including five black witnesses, ultimately told Eric Holder's DOJ. That's why he was shot by the officer as he then once again lurched

forward toward the officer. That's what happened. Leftist liars got a lie started that he died saying with his hands up saying, "Don't shoot." It was not true. It's been completely debunked. It's been acknowledged as a lie by multiple leftists who write in papers like the New York Times and the Washington Post. And yet, these idiots in St. Paul, Minnesota, refuse to take the truth when it's handed to them, even by black witnesses, even by black commentators, even by a black attorney general. They don't give a They're agenda driven. Okay. Now, here is the moment the protest began. And a look at how the protesters hounded the parishioners.

[screaming] YOU. WHERE ARE YOU? WHERE ARE YOU? [screaming] WHERE ARE YOU? WHERE ARE YOUR PEOPLE?

WHY ARE YOU NOT AT WIMPLE EVERY DAY FIGHTING FOR THE HUMANITY, STANDING FOR OUR PEOPLE? WHERE ARE YOU? Drink your coffee. You got your jewelry. You have your nice clothes. What do you do to stand for your Somali and Latino communities? I'm not going to comment.

Being totally respectful. The left is marching up and down. Fists raised. In that montage we just played, you can hear the pastor who was leading the service say, "Shame on you." And pointed the protesters to exit. That's it. You don't leave after that. It's called trespass. It's called criminal trespass. Parishioners engaged the protesters, begging them to leave, but they did not. By the way, they were so respectful that that that complete we'll get to him. His last name is Kelly, who seemed to lead the whole thing, was in the face of these parishioners. Why aren't you standing with your Somali neighbors like they're all a bunch of racists because they don't want to support the fraudsters who invaded Minneapolis?

Um, and the parishioners, I mean, I don't know what I would do. I really think I would have to go jihad on these people. But the these parishioners are so kind and sweet. They really are Minneapolis nice. They're like, I I have no comment. Please don't. Please leave. You watch this online and it's it's almost aggravating because you want these complete creatins. You really I mean, what you really wanted for is for them to be punched in their face. That's really what what I want. I want Jesse Kelly in that church. That's what I want. Um, but instead they got Minneapolis, Minnesota nice and we got begging for these people to leave, which is totally appropriate, too. But they did not. They stayed for another 45 minutes according to Alpha News, which we love. They did not leave until actually the police showed up. Oh, great. We finally did have police show up on the live feed because BLM was live

feeding this. One protester could be heard saying, "This isn't God's house. This is the house of the devil." Well, you made it. You made it the house of the devil. You brought the devil inside. I could see it. Didn't I say satanic right at the top? That's how it felt. At one point, the church began blasting music. You heard it at the end of that clip there to try to drown out the protesters. You know, much in the way we now hear the good guys chant USA, USA when we hear people try to drown out Trump or one of his nominees at their confirmation hearings. Well, that was actually a good move. They tried to blast Christian music to try to drown out the absurd calls of these so-called protesters, these terrorists. And just seconds into the protest, I I'm using that word very facitiously. This was not a protest. This was this is terror. This is terrorism. You can see one small child upset in a pew and being comforted

by his dad. This is so sad. Imagine your little boy not knowing what to make of this, not knowing where it was going. Every child in America unfortunately knows that strangers sometimes come in to places where children are to shoot them. And now they see these bullies show up in a Baptist mass and threaten the people sitting there, try to shame and scream in the faces of them. A wood a woman sitting next to the boy, likely his mom, can be seen putting her hand on his shoulder to comfort him. She looks bewildered. She's probably unsure whether these protesters are just there to yell or to do something more sinister. We we just had a shooting inside of a church a couple of months ago. We've had multiple shootings inside of synagogues. So these people have to worry about whether they are just going to be allowed to worship or whether they're going to get hurt and their children are going to get hurt.

You like you can't be sure, can you? Sadly in this day and age. Don Lemon, who was totally enjoying his moment in the spotlight, also catching footage of an upset parishioner trying to get the protesters to leave. But in true Don Lemon fashion, he justified the protesters actions.

Sure, people here don't like it, but protests are not comfortable. And there are people here who are I'm looking at a young man who's in the corner. He's frightened. He's scared. He's crying. People are leaving church. So yeah.

guys standing up now saying get out of screaming. They're trying calm him down.

God bless [clears throat] him. What you can see is a what you can see is a parishioner yelling at the at the rioters as the ter at the terrorists. Get out. Get out. He's screaming at them. Get out. And you've got Don Lemon's running commentary that protests are not comfortable. Guess what, Don? You're too stupid to understand the law. But this one also happens to be illegal. You know how it's illegal to harass people or to show up at the abortion clinic? You're not allowed to do that. The law makes it clear. You cannot show up right outside of the abortion clinic and harass people or any medical clinic.

Well, guess what? That same law also applies to places of worship. You're not allowed to do there are some very limited, but this is one of them, limits on your First Amendment rights. The law has been the Supreme Court has made clear over and over and over and over and over that they you can have restrictions on speech that govern time, place, and manner. And that's what this so-called face act is. It's a restriction on time, place, and manner for protests around things like abortion clinics and around things like churches.

And you certainly do not have the right to go into a place of worship and harass worshipping petitioner parishioners. Something you, Don, Lemon, and all of your disgusting BLM terrorists are about to learn the hard way. During the protests, Lemon talked to the pastor who was leading the service and had the gall to ask him, "Don't you think Jesus would understand?" I mean, this is unacceptable. It's shameful. It's shameful to to interrupt a public gathering of Christians in worship. So, but there are folks,

I have to take care of my flock. Listen, we live in there's a constitution and the first amendment to freedom of speech and freedom to assemble and protest.

We're here to worship. We're here to worship Jesus because that's the hope of these cities. That's the hope of the world is Jesus Christ.

I want to be very respectful. Please don't push me though. We're we're here. We're here to worship Jesus. That's why we're here. Okay. That's why we're here. That's what we're about.

Don't you think Jesus would be understanding and we're about love these? We're about spreading the love of Jesus.

But did you try to talk to them as a as a Christian? Everyone is willing to talk. Okay.

Okay. Just like I need to take a deep breath. This is so infuriating. [snorts] [sighs] Some people are too stupid to be allowed into the news. And that's saying something. That's saying something. Some people are too dumb to be allowed to do the news. He's too dumb. That's He's too dumb. He's too ideological. He's too sympathetic to the terrorists there and doesn't know about the law or the US Constitution. Has no clue what he is saying to that pastor there that they have a first amendment right to be there. You're going to learn the hard way, sir, how wrong you are.

Lemon was also outside the church when some of the parishioners left and admitted it must have been traumatic for them. But he says, "Hey, that's what protesting is all about. Making children scared." Such a sweet guy. Don, watch. Watch this guy here. Look, he's hugging his kid. Um, and you know, I I imagine it's uncomfortable and traumatic for the people here, but again, careful. It's very slippery right here.

Yeah, it's uncomfortable and traumatic for the people here, but that's what really Careful, please. Really slippery. Not kidding. Um, that's what protesting is about. And so

it's it's about traumatizing people. Literally, you heard it there. It's it's traumatic for people, but that's what protesting is all about. It's about traumatizing them. Men, women, children, Christians. It's fine. Let's get the Christians. I'm telling you, this is a growing attitude in this country and it has to stop. The whole protest was organized by Nikima Levy Armstrong. She's a longtime BLM activist. She's a lawyer and an idiot and a former law professor at the University of St. Thomas in Minneapolis. Okay. Never heard of it. Uh she says she's a reverend. Sure. Where where do they allow this kind of behavior?

Reverend. Per Alpha News, Armstrong said after the protest, quote, I feel that we did what needed to be done and I know that this church will never be the same after today. You're right. I hope you get to say that to all of your fellow inmates. I really do. I hope you get to I I hope you're the one who they decide to room with the roommate. I do. I really hope that when you actually go to pay for your crimes, you get introduced to your side's demands that you know we be open and welcoming to everybody and you get the 6'5 huge posing as a woman as your roommate. You know, the one this just hit the news. I think it was out of California where the guy who continued to sexually assault women and um force them to perform fellatio on him over and over got got roommed next to a female or with a female in his cell. Why? Because of leftists like you, madam, who think that there's no such thing as a woman

and that we can erase these lines. How's that going to go? I I I'm sorry. Like I'm so angry right now. I just feel like what? Something better be done. Pam Bondi saying it will. Trump is saying it will. We'll see. Attorney General Pam Bondi writing on X, quote, "The Justice Department is investigating at my direction. Any violation of federal law will be prosecuted." Hart Dylan, the assistant AG for the DOJ's civil rights division, writing on X, "A house of worship is not a public forum for your protest. It's a space protected from exactly such acts by federal, criminal, and civil laws." White House spokeswoman Caroline Levit weighing in, writing, quote, "President Trump will not tolerate the intimidation and harassment of Christians in their sacred places of worship." All of which better be true. I have every reason to believe them. I think they're as angry as I am, and I look forward to seeing what they

do with those feelings. We check the X feeds again of Minnesota Governor Tim Walls, Minnesota Mayor Jacob Fry, Congresswoman Ilan Omar. So far, zero reaction to this protest. She's probably in the middle of her five times a day prayer. She's probably too busy yelling uh Allahu Akbar and patting her husband's bank account. She can't spare a minute for the Christians who are suffering as a result of the Somali hello her people fraud at the center of all of this. I'm sure at some point today they're going to give their thoughts and prayers, but whenever it comes, it's too late. It won't be sincere because it doesn't take hours to condemn protests again terrorism inside a church that left children frightened.

And if you think all the protesters, again, I'm using that term very loosely, were just chanting generic woke mantras, you're wrong. One I mentioned a moment ago, is named William Kelly. According to Right Angle News Network, he's a paid agitator who travels from stateto state harassing ICE agents. Why is he out on the street is the real question. Because you see, he was arrested on Friday for reportedly impeding ICE, but was out thanks to the revolving door that is the criminal justice system in places like Minneapolis in time for Sunday's quote protest, and we mean terrorism.

He got up in the faces of the worshippers, I mean screaming, screaming, ranting, and raving about quote white people who are living lavish, comfortable lives. for the listening audience. He's white. Watch.

As you can see, all these pretend Christians, all these comfortable white people who are living lavish, COMFORTABLE LIVES WHILE CHILDREN ARE DRAGGED INTO CONCENTRATION CAMPS. YOU'RE LIVING REAL LIFE, NICE lives with your lattes, doing absolutely nothing for your Latino and Somali brothers and sisters. You are A FAKE CHRISTIAN. WHY ARE YOU NOT STANDING WITH YOUR SOMALI AND LATINO COMMUNITIES? WHY DO I NOT SEE YOU OUT AT WHIPPLE EVERY DAY PROTESTING THIS ATTACK ON HUMANITY? You're pretending to be Christians, BUT WE KNOW YOU LIVE AN EASY LIFE, DON'T YOU? LIVING REAL COMFORTABLE WHILE CHILDREN ARE DRAGGED INTO CONCENTRATION CAMPS. YOU'RE ALL LIVING REAL COMFORTABLE, AREN'T YOU? SHAME ON YOU.

DO SOMETHING. STAND WITH American flag. Stand with THE LATINOS. QUIT IGNORING THIS INJUSTICE. YEAH. OKAY. The Daily Wire's Megan Basham reports this guy's been previously linked to a group disrupting disrupting church services in Washington DC, including one incident where the protesters caused a church parishioner to go to the hospital with a shattered eardrum after the person screamed into a bullhorn in their face. On Tik Tok, Kelly has called ICE agents Nazis. He has said the US is an evil empire and that a civil war has already begun. And on one of his Sunday protest videos, he wrote, quote, "No rest for demons." In that, Mr. Kelly, you and I are in perfect agreement. Who the demons are, we're going to have to fight out.

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Yes, of course, Megan. My thought during your excellent monologue was, Megan, how do you really feel? You know, will you please tell us how you really feel here? And and of course, you use this word terrorism. That's not hyperbole. Terrorism has a definition. There are all sorts of violence. There's uh state violence. You know, there's there's war, there's just war, there's law enforcement, there are crimes of passion. There all different kinds of violence. Terrorism has a specific definition. It's when you target civilians with violence to achieve political ends. That is exactly what happened here. When Don Lemon goes out and he pretends he presents himself as if he's just a journalist covering this, now it seems though he actually was working with the agitators.

When he says that protest is about traumatizing people, that just isn't true. I'm sure he's not familiar with the Constitution or the meaning of most words, but protesting is for peaceibly assembling to petition the government for a redress of grievances. That's where the supposed right to protest comes from in the Constitution. When you traumatize kids at church to achieve a political end, that is a form of terrorism. And to your point, Megan, it violates federal law because there's this law which is frankly preposterous which says that uh Christians and people who want to just generally people who want to defend innocent human life uh are limited when they advocate outside of abortion clinics that the face act was passed and the only way they were able to ram it through is to say look we'll we'll stop demonstrations at abortion clinics but we'll also stop demon demonstrations at churches. So

you've got the churches where you know the church of the right is just church and the church of the left is the abortion clinic. And I I'm even thinking of the line of Peter Craraft a brilliant observation which is that you know abortion is the sacrament of the left. It even uses the centerpiece of the Christian liturgy. You know the the the holy communion when the priest says this is my body. He's quoting Christ. This is my body which will be given up for you. And the left takes it and inverts it to satanic purposes. says, "This is my body," you know, and they use it to sacrifice a little baby. So, they they the face act is supposed to protect both. It's only ever really used to protect the abortion clinics. Well, here, yes, obviously the federal government has to get involved. Uh the one part I disagree with though in your monologue, Megan, is when you say these people are busting in. This is for some

people the one time of the week when they feel closest to Christ and they're praying and they're worshiping and this gives them some comfort. And you know, the left, they don't know that. I think the left does know that. You know, I I I think actually you see throughout history, they always target the churches. They target the churches in the French Revolution, in the Bolevik Revolution, in the Spanish Civil War, in Mexico, they do it for a purpose. I'm reminded there was this clip going viral of a BBC presenter. She was interviewing a young man said, "Who are your heroes?"

He said, "Kendrick Lamar and my biggest hero is Jesus. She audibly hisses." This is something out of the New Testament, like there's a demon there or something. Uh, you know, this is really spooky stuff. And uh you you see this nasty spirit animating leftist agitators throughout history.

Yes. I honestly like I've never felt so aware of demonic forces around us. I I truly haven't. Like started with Charlie Kirk's assassination, Michael, and I have just felt like they're everywhere ever since. Something has been unleashed that feels truly unholy. We we have never needed St. Michael more than right now. And like I to cross into somebody's place of worship. I do wonder, you know, I do it'll be very interesting to see how the mainstream covers this today because it I guarantee if you had a bunch of white MAGA types invading a mosque, this would be everywhere. And and I I like I wonder how would it be how would it be covered if you had a bunch of people invading a synagogue in today's day and age and getting in the face of Jewish worshippers? Will there be any understanding or empathy for Christians who are in there worshiping uh on a Sunday at a Baptist service?

Here's how Don Lemon saw it moments before he joined the resistance organization to go into that church. This is him outside of the church at the initial meeting. Seems pretty clear he knew exactly what they were about to do in sat 6.

Well, this is kind of MAGA coded, right? Saw the American flag or whatever, but these are resistance protesters. They're planning an operation that we're going to follow them on. I can't tell you exactly what they're doing, but it's called Operation Pullup. Again, this is um an operation that is in secret that they invited uh folks out. Can't tell you what is going to happen, but you're going to watch it live unfold here on the Don Lemon Show. Um there are this reason looks the for this reason. Um it may look like MAGA coded.

Um but there's a reason they have so many white people here. I'm just going to be honest. It's because of the the what they're the operation that they're doing today. It's important to have allies, as they said, white allies here. This is unbelievable. The the flag and the white people make it quote coded. They had to have whites. He he wants to excuse the presence of whites to his audience with his stupid DL mic flag. Don Lemon mic flag. Okay, Don. He's really missing missing his CNN days when he mattered. Um he has to excuse the presence of white people there because you see like they're going he he's about to do the big reveal. They're going into a Baptist church service. And so you see you need you need some whites. Hello. Lots of black people are Baptist too. I don't you you'd think you'd know that but no.

Um and you need the white allies there. You see because you're going to go confront a bunch of white Baptist in Minneapolis. Um as he makes very clear he knows what's about to happen. Michael and truly after that pastor said get out. Every single one of them was guilty of trespass, including Don Lemon.

Of course, he he makes a number of uncomfortable admissions right now, which he should get blowback for in the media, but also he's probably gonna have blowback from prosecutors on. He's admitting that he's in on it. You know, he's he's clearly one of the organizers of this. But but the even the worst admission, I think, is when he comes out and he says, "Yeah, and you know, it's maga coded. I mean, they've got American flags or like whatever." As if to say, "Our political movement, the left-wing political movement is anti-America." He says, "Yeah, there's some white people, you know, like I'm sorry about that. Uh, you know, but we have to do it. It's MAGA coded." As if to say, "Our political movement, the left-wing political movement is anti-white people.

It's it's anti-white, anti-Americans, anti it's anti-Christian." Obviously, it is. And so, you know, when you ask how will this be covered by the establishment outlets, they'll they'll try to downplay it entirely. Uh, you know, if if this were a mosque, this would be treated as the worst, most egregious form of terrorism ever in the history of the world, because the left uniformly seems to worship Muslims, not because they agree with Islam, but because they all have a common enemy, which is the country and Christianity. If it were a synagogue, it would probably be 50/50 because some of the left is is pro-Jews. A lot of the left is anti-Jews. You would have you would have mixed coverage of it. The one thing the left is certainly in agreement on though, is it's anti-Christian. And so they they go in there. Don Lemon is obviously helping to organize this thing. He says, "I have a little secret,

but I'm not going to let you in on it right now." And then he gets up in the face of that pastor and just

let me wait hold that thought. I want to give you the exact quote. He in the car beforehand in the car before the s we showed he he says quote, "We don't know what's happening. We kind of do, but we don't know how it's going to play out, right?" And he mentioned the word church accidentally before they arrived. He was obviously trying to hide where they were going on the way over during the live stream, but he knew full well what they were about to do. Keep going. These are the the the secret plans that Don, you know, is letting slip a little bit. The very fact that he has the secret, you know, tells you he's complicit. And then he goes up in the face.

Not not exactly a Navy Seal, is he? I would not send him into Venezuela. Okay. I That guy is not clandestine. But but he goes up to that pastor and he starts mocking him. And this is what the leftist radicals have been doing to Christians going back at least to the French Revolution. Frankly, uh this is what opponents of Christianity have been doing going back to ancient Rome is they is they mock the Christians. And so he says, "Well, I thought you were a Christian. Why aren't you just talking to these people who obviously have no right to just invade interrupt a worship service?" And but [clears throat] he said, "Why don't you just talk to them?"

You can hear them shrieking and screaming in the background. Good on the the pastor for saying, you know, I don't think they want to talk. I don't think anyone's interested in talking here. And this obviously is not the time or place for that. Then Don Lemon, it actually cut out, but a little bit later in that clip, Don Lemon says, "Well, look, I mean, I'm a Christian. Look, I'm a Christian." And you you have to ask yourself, in what meaningful way is this man a Christian? We don't need to get into his personal life, but even just his public behavior here, uh well, it doesn't it doesn't change.

I mean, his personal life is relevant to the the following extent. He he has no children. He's a gay man in a gay marriage with no children. And he has absolutely no empathy for the children sitting there. I mean, he really doesn't. He's like, "Too bad trauma is all part of it. Suck it up." as mothers comforting their young sons is apparently so long ago in his history if it ever happened between Dawn and his own mom that he's forgotten that children actually do have a right to feel safe especially in a place of worship and might feel unsafe with Mr.

Kelly, a serial agitator who's running around actually hurting people, um, bursts into his church and screams in his face in the face of his parents. Don doesn't seem to understand that at all. Maybe if he actually had a child, he might.

And don't forget the specific context here. It's not just that kids have been accustomed since Coline to recognize that in schools, in churches, in public places, they could be shot up. They could be targeted. But but specifically, there was

which just happened. Michael, just were you just going to say it just happened? Yes. in Minneapolis like it just happened and the nerve

specifically Christian kids. Yes, exactly. And absolutely no sympathy or empathy for them whatsoever. The law there's there there is the trespass law and by the way you as a journalist can violate it if you go into a private place without permission or even a public place where permission is then withdrawn meaning you're told to leave and you don't. You absolutely can be prosecuted for trespass. Um, but there is also this face act that you point out uh was originally meant to target abortion clinic protests and the quidd proquo from the right was well you also have to include churches which is really just a fig leaf until now you know until you have Trump and Bondi in there who who are actually saying you know what we're going to enforce it and it says this act act prohibits the use of threat of force and physical obstruction that either injures intimidates or interferes um or threatens to attempts to injure,

imit intimidate or interfere with any person um who is pursuing their uh exercising their first amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship worship. So you and you so physical obstruction is enough that is attempting to interfere with or intimidate any person at church. Got it? So it boils down to have you have you by threat of force or by physical obstruction attempted to intimidate or interfere with somebody at worship

that the answer is yes. It's yes to all of obviously I mean they're they're basically bragging about it. And so this is why the question of how will this be covered I I think has to lead us to the conclusion that it doesn't matter how it's covered. I don't care what the news networks say. I don't care what the New York Times writes or doesn't write about it. We are in the government right now and the the only way that you are going to discourage this is through a massive show of just force of force that is very much in accordance with justice and with the law. But that's what's that's what's going to do it. Okay? The law is a teacher. And so we need to round all these people up. The Biden was able to round up every Midwestern granny who took a selfie in the Capitol Rotunda on January 6th.

Yes. Including journalists. Yes. Exactly. And here we need to round all of these people up who broke the law. That includes Don Lemon. We need to tell them no. In many ways, what's going on in Minneapolis right now is the consequence of the left encouraging people to violate the law and never holding them to account. So when that that lady who ended up getting shot by the ICE officer cuz she ran her car into him, when she was shot, I felt sympathy for her because she didn't think there would be consequences to their actions.

Look at Minneapolis after George Floyd. Look at the left rioting and and disrespecting law enforcement and even attacking law enforcement for years now. Of course, she didn't expect consequences. That's a a pity. We cannot give up law and order because of that. We need to remind people there will be consequences. This will not be tolerated. You will not be permitted to obstruct law enforcement. You will not be permitted to target Christians. You will not be permitted to scandalize little kids. I mean, that issue, frankly, takes us all the way to the the transgender fights that we've been having in recent years. You have to make clear that there is order. What you mentioned Charlie Kirk's assassination.

After Charlie was assassinated, a lot of people I think in some ways to cope and process our grief, we said, "Well, you know, you might have assassinated one of the great conservative leaders, but we'll only be stronger after this." And sometimes that's true. Unfortunately, usually it's not. The reason why people keep doing assassinations is because by and large, assassinations work. That's a very hard truth. And frankly, Charlie's assassination did create a lot of turmoil and division on the right. That's what it was designed to do.

That's what it did. The reason that the left goes in to the churches is because they can intimidate Christians and by and large it actually does work. The reason why they obstruct law enforcement is they can stop law enforcement from carrying out the law. By and large, it does work. We have to prove to them that it does not work. This is not merely a matter of, you know, uh, appeasing our passions or even bringing about some retribution because these clips get our blood boiling. This is an existential matter for law and order in the United States. If we're going to allow roving leftist mobs to go in and traumatize their word, not ours, traumatize little Christian kids while they pray to God, we might as well give up the constitutional order because it would be meaningless.

I know, Michael. I don't know about you, I'm ready to get on a plane and go to Minneapolis right now. I truly am. Like I if you and I and Matt Walsh is coming on in 20 minutes have to sit outside of these churches all day on Sunday, then we'll do that. Then we will do that. But like there are actually national guardsmen who are better suited to do it. And I know Trump doesn't want to issue the uh insurrection act. His poll numbers are not going in the right direction on all of this. But th this cannot be allowed. And what we can do, however, is we can show every single one of those faces. We we zeroed in on this activist Kelly because he's an obvious cretton, a loudmouth and injurer. But there are multiple multiple BLM standing there. These are not all the white people. Some are black standing there totally fine with traumatizing the children and the innocents in that mass.

And just for listening audience, you see these people they're targeting to harass us, scream in their faces. is like young Midwestern men who look maybe 18, 19 with like V-neck sweaters on with their little tie on underneath their V-neck sweater just with like a cleancut haircut just there to worship on a Sunday like the it's like you see this guy Kelly in his little vest screaming at them, why aren't you supporting your Somali neighbors? is this like obnoxious, obviously crazy white guy with this crazy facial hair and like these sweet god-fearing Midwesterners, Michael. And you know who the good guys are. Um, I just want to show you one one more Don Lemon clip because here he is.

This is so indicative of the press, right? This guy was like the face of CNN. So he gets in the face of one of these parishioners right outside and this man who's a little on the older side very articulately defends what ICE is doing and some of the news story that Don Lemon raises and Don Lemon gets frustrated and basically writes the guy off as a no nothing but here's part of it in sad 8

on one side uh are people who watched a previous administration bring 12 million people in over the course of four years um and many of them undocumented, many of them criminals, etc. At the same time, these are what are called targeted interventions by ICE to keep the American people safe. I respectfully may interject here. I've been out reporting on a lot of these and they're not targeted. There are no warrants signed by a judge and they're let me finish. And they're American citizens. Many of them, most of the people that they detain don't have criminal convictions or criminal records.

I'm not going to get into the weeds. This is You know that though. Don't you think that's part of it?

One administration caused a great deal of chaos and havoc and danger for American citizens and another is trying to correct that.

Do you believe that? Why do why honestly? Let me talk to you just on the fact. Yes, I am. I want to give you the facts.

No. No. No. Did you know that undocumented people and and immigrants commit far less crime than than American citizens?

We're done. How brilliant [snorts] was that man? No. No. not taking his facts from Don Lemon who tried to say um the vast majority of people being arrested have no criminal record. You should know that that's a lie. Christine has put the number over 70% who have been arrested by ICE have an additional crime. That's the reason ICE was looking for them and we've documented before that in the vast majority of those cases it's a violent crime. Of course, you know, the the idea that they commit crime at lower rates or they don't use the welfare system or that, you know, they come up with all of these second and third order excuses.

First of all, their premises are false. But even if that were true, which it's not, they have no right to be here. The federal government has not only the right, but the responsibility to remove these people from the country because of all of the downstream effects of this. Yes. And so, you know, I I pointed out the the downside of left-wing violence, which is that it works. It does work. That's why they do it because it it can work. But the flip side of that is when we enforce the law, when we do what we're supposed to do, what the people elected Republicans to do, that has a downstream effect as well. You just look if the heart of this is this immigration debate and the libs are so forceful over immigration because they think it'll give them a permanent electoral majority. If you just look at that debate from last year, the fact that Trump deported formally o well over half a million people and then through self-

deepportations could be well over two million people uh depending on the labor statistics you're looking at or what have you. It's at the very least you had a lot of people leaving and you had the border closed. You saw drug overdose deaths decline for most of last year. You saw rents decrease four months in a row month over month. Why is that? You saw a lot of these downstream effects. Why? because state action also has has political consequences as well. So there there's no substitute here, you know. Uh it's good that we feel righteous indignation. It's good. St. Thomas Aquinus, no less in authority than he points out that if you don't feel anger at injustice, something's wrong with you. If you don't feel anger looking at these scenes, what these this mob has done to this church congregation, there's something a little bit wrong with you. But that can't be the end of it. That that will be fruitless. that

will be worse than fruitless if if we don't follow that up with real political action and arrest these people for the crimes that they're committing, put them in prison for as long as we possibly can, stifle the the the agitation that we're seeing throughout Minneapolis and stop it from spreading to the rest of the country. If we do that long enough, we keep shipping out the criminals, we keep suppressing the criminals that we have in our own country, we reestablish norms and order. If we do that long enough, guess what? Before you know it, you're going to look up and you're going to have a normal country again. If we don't, if we abdicate our responsibility, this is coming to a church near you.

Th absolutely this needs to be met with the strong arm of the law. And I mean, the the thing we're up against, of course, is what's going to happen when and if these people are arrested because I mentioned this guy, William Kelly, who was arrested on Friday and was out in time to disrupt this Sunday service. Uh this is him on camera on Tik Tok explaining the fact that he was arrested on Friday before this church protest. Take a listen. Sat 11. Today I got arrested for being in a street. I wasn't impeding traffic. I was just scolding Nazis for their bad decisions and they came up. They lined up AND THEN THEY SPRINTED AFTER ME AND THEY CHASED ME FOR BLOCKS. I WAS RUNNING FOR MY LIFE. I'm scared. I don't know what they're going to do to me. They're Nazis.

Sure you are. A woman was filming me from her minivan and I begged her to let me in cuz I WAS SCARED. SO I JUMPED IN THE BACK OF HER minivan and YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DID? THEY CAME UP AND THEY PUT A GUN TO HER FACE. THEY PULLED A PISTOL ON HER AND PUT A GUN TO HER FACE. THIS IS NOT AMERICA. THIS IS NOT FREEDOM.

He seems hinged. Yeah. Generally speaking, this is like a rule of thumb in politics. When people are screaming at the top of their lungs in voices that seem about to proclaim, "My name is Legion, for we are many." Those are not the guys you want to side with. Those guys have problems. And it is a mercy to arrest them. This is a point, by the way, because they're are lovely, sweet people, including Christians and moderate conservatives who say, "Well, look, don't we want to be nice and we don't want to be we don't need to arrest all of them, and maybe we should stop deporting the illegal aliens, and we just want to be nice, nice, nice." The premise there is fundamentally flawed. And this goes back all the way not just in the Christian tradition, but even back to good old philosophy in ancient Greece. The the premise here is it's good to the bad guys if you let them off the hook. It's not good. It's really bad to the

innocent people when you let the bad guys off the hook because they can torch their cities and commit a lot of crimes. But it's bad for the bad guys, too. Do you think this guy is flourishing? Do you think this guy Did he call in sick from work to go obstruct law enforcement and shriek in a church? uh something tells me he's not the most gainfully employed guy in the world. He he doesn't have his life together. Something's really wrong with him. We need to arrest him for the actual crimes he's committed and punish him for the crimes he's committed. But one of the benefits of our correctional system is we correct people. We can rehabilitate him. He's living a bad life. And it will be an act of mercy when Tom Hman or Christy Gnome or anybody else from law enforcement shows up at his home, maybe Steven Miller, and drags him out and and brings this guy a little bit back to sanity.

whatever he's doing right now is not good for him and it's certainly not good for society.

Yeah. No, he if the flourishing is a no. He's he's not flourishing. Agreed. And he won't be flourishing if he also gets put in the room with the 6'5 guy. I mean, I don't think that guy cares who felates him. Um, I want to talk about Ilan Omar who's very upset. She's very upset, not about the fraud that the Somali from her own home country are committing here in the United States, but about the ICE behavior and the investigations. Here she is at a hearing on Friday in Minneapolis. S. It is appalling for our Republican colleagues to be okay, for there to be cell detentations in ICE for American citizens. It is appalling for them to be okay, for there to be checkpoints in American cities where people are asked for their papers. And it is appalling for Americans to have to carry their citizen papers only to be told they are not sure if those papers are correct.

I don't want to curse, but those of us who escaped places like that, the one place where we thought we would never experience this is the US goddamn states. Haha. Let me see your papers. And why'd you marry your brother?

Yeah, her papers are a little bit. America wants to know. Yes. You Yeah, I want to see your paper. And she talk about papers, Michael. She like your driver's license. Show me your drive. Like, and by the way, as she talks about how they're just like stopping random people. No, ICE has a list of people they are looking for. And if Minneapolis and Minnesota would just cooperate with them in handing over the vast majority of these people are already in the criminal justice system. They could have been nabbed at the police station, but they won't do that.

So now ICE has got to track them down in their apartment buildings. Make it sound like they're just at a random red light saying like, "Let me show me your social security number and your birth certificate." That's

I I love the the performative preface. She says, "You know, I don't want to curse." And you think, well, look, people use salty language. But if you if you have the presence of mind to say, I don't want to curse, and then you you say this naughty word. You you clearly want to. So, first of all, you know, she's a liar off the bat. But but the funny thing about this Ilhan Omar is I actually agree with what she's saying. I don't agree with her conclusion, but she says it's appalling that in America we have to have people carry their papers and we don't know if their papers are real. Yeah, that is appall. It is appalling that your party let tens of millions of foreign criminals into this country. I wish we didn't have to do that. I wish we had social solidarity and we didn't have tens of millions of foreign criminals out. But we are where we are. You got to play the hand you're dealt. We're trying to get them out. You

don't want to get them out. But yeah, that's why we have to do this. It's because of you. But then second of all, she says, "And I come from this place and I got refuge from this bad country and now I'm here in this." What does she say? The word she uses calls America godforsaken. Worse than that. It says that America is a damned country. And so she doesn't like the country. She thinks it's in a really bad spot and she thinks it's just as bad as the country she came from. Well, great. I I I guess we agree in that you don't want to be here, Ilhan Omar, because this is such a bad place.

And I don't want you here, Ilhan Omar, because you make the country worse. So, we have this rare moment of agreement and we should just go our separate ways. You can go back to Star Wars Land, and we can stay here in America, and we'll all be better for it. Totally. No one will miss you. And I guess where you come from, you're allowed to marry your brother. I don't know. It was an odd thing for you to do. We all know why you did it. And now, uh, as we reported earlier, she's under investigation for her husband's very bizarre $30 million income in a year. He went from something like low thousands in income to over 30 million. And now he's being investigated by um the House Oversight Committee and others. So, we'll see how that works out for her.

Michael Nolles, as always with you. It was too short. I love having you on. Please come back soon.

Marvelous to be with you, Megan. See you next time. All right. And uh our pal Matt Walsh uh is on next.

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Thanks for having me. Okay, little bit of a delay, but we'll manage it. Um, we left off with Michael Nolles a bit on Don Lemon. Here's one more sound bite. Now that he realizes that he might be in trouble with the Department of Justice for appearing to trespass, meaning stay longer than invited and refused to leave once explicitly told to. Uh, among others, I mean, he could potentially be in danger under the safe act, the thing that allow that disallows uh, physical obstruction of parishioners or others at a place of worship. He comes out with the following defense this morning. Sat 7.

I have no affiliation to that organization. I didn't even know they were going to this church until we followed them there. We were there chronicling protests. Once the protest started in the church, we did an act of journalism which was report on it and talked to the people who were involved which included the pastor, members of the church, and members of the organization. That's it. It's called journalism. First amendment, all that stuff. For all of you people who believe in the first amendment absolutist, there you go. So, why don't you talk to the actual person who is in charge of the organization and whose idea it was to have the protest at the church before you start blaming me for stuff for which you have no idea.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. I mean, he's on camera saying we don't know what's happening. We kind of do, but we don't know how it's going to play out. Mentioning the church repeatedly before they even arrived. So, I I get the feeling, Matt, that he Don Lemon might not be uh telling us the perfect truth there.

Yeah. Well, it's I mean, so unlike Don Lemon and not tell the truth, I mean, it it doesn't matter anyway. Yes, we we have him I mean, he has himself. So, he incriminated himself by recording all this, live streaming it. And we saw him out in the parking lot um outside of the church before they went in. And so, we we we know that he knew exactly what was happening. But even if he didn't, let's just say that he saw this band of leftists walking down the street and just decided to join them randomly, which no thinking person believes, doesn't matter. He saw once you see them going into the church to uh disrupt church services and commit a federal crime, actually commit a commit a probably a whole host of crimes, federal and state crimes. But once you see them doing that, that's where if you don't want to also commit the crime, you would just, you know, take a left turn and go do something else with your time. He

decided to follow them in and participate in that. And um and he justified it the entire time and made it very clear that, you know, this was not just like objective reporting. Uh he wasn't critical of them. He wasn't even objective about it. He was very much in support of it. So, this really and and now he's trying to backtrack because he's worried and I hope he has something to worry about. I mean, this comes down to the Trump administration um who uh you know, they they it's it's one thing to do the investigations and all of that kind of stuff and I think they're saying the right things in the wake of this and mentioning the fact this is probably a violation of the Face Act and everything else. Um, but now is the next part where you send a SWAT team in to Don Lemon's house and you drag him out uh before dawn and you you you perp walk them in front of cameras and then you throw them in prison because guess

what? That's exactly what the B administration did to peaceful uh prolifers and uh and now we do the exact same. It's time for these people to get a real dose of their own medicine for a change.

Yes, Face Act. Thank you. And I said safe. Um that's not right. Face. Here's more of Don Lemon inside the church making clear as you point out whose side he he's on and again again again trying to defend what these protesters were doing and obviously because he was a part of it. Here's ST 9. I'm

sure they probably called the local authorities right now and they'll show up in a bit but so far no one has been hurt. People are just really angry and upset and members of the church are trying to get them to calm down. But this is the beginning of what's going to happen here. When you violate people's due process, when you pull people off the street, you start dragging them and hurting them [clears throat] and um and not abiding by the Constitution, when you start doing all of that, people get upset and angry. And if you remember what the civil rights movement was about, the civil rights movement was about these very kinds of protests. For some reason in our modern era, people think that in order to have protest, you got to be, you know, cordoned off to a certain area and uh you know what time you can protest. Look, there's nothing in the constitution that tells you what time you can protest. You can protest at

any time. That's the whole point of it is to disrupt. It's to make uncomfortable. And that's what they're doing.

Okay. Look, I just I'm sorry, but I he he's so dumb. I just I have to say it out loud. No, there's nothing in in the Constitution specifically spelling out what the restrictions can be on first speech. They are limited in this country, but they absolutely can have limitations. By the way, Dom, they're they're issued by statute that elaborates on the fundamental principles of the Constitution um on time, place, and manner. Time, place, and manner can be restricted. Which is why the Westboroough Baptist Church crazies can protest the funerals of our dead soldiers. But time, place, and manner can be regulated so that they cannot get right in the face of a grieving set of parents that just buried their boy.

Okay? That's because the Supreme Court understands content restrictions get extreme scrutiny. But time, place, and manner regulations around speech, like you can't go into somebody's place of worship, are almost always upheld. But I'm sorry, Matt. he's too stupid or partisan to care.

Yeah, that that's always the thing with Don Lemon is he's a he's a I mean legitimately a very dumb person. And so you always wonder uh is he that's that's always the kind like is he lying right now? Does he know that we said what he's saying is as stupid as it is. I'm not really sure. It doesn't really matter anyway. And anytime you listen to this guy or really any of these leftist protesters, you sort of they can kind of overwhelm you with And so you don't even know where to begin in responding to it. And it it creates a challenge in of itself because everything they say is so wrong that you kind of get it's like where do I even start? Because like he so for for one thing he says well this is to justify the quote protest in the church. He says well this is what happens when you are kidnapping people you're dragging out American citizens out of their homes.

Well two things with that. Number one ICE is not doing that. Number two you're in a church. These are not ICE agents. So even if they were doing that why are you taking it out on these just random people who are trying to including children as he admitted himself who are trying to worship. So it doesn't make any sense. But I will say that if if if Don Lemon so what Don Lemon is claiming Don Lemon is claiming that he believes that protests are number one about being disruptive about making people uncomfortable and that if you want to protest according to him the constitution says you could protest anytime any place and there's no restrictions on it whatsoever. That's what Don Lemon believes and that's apparently what he you know that's what that's that's what he supports. So I I mean I get and I'm not I just want to make clear I'm not encouraging this at all. I'm not saying for that anyone

should do it, but I can only assume that if a mob of people showed up at Don Lemon's house and protested in his living room, I can only assume that Don Lemon would say, "Wow, well, they're making me uncomfortable. They're being disruptive." And hey, I mean, the Constitution says you can protest anywhere, any place, anytime. Uh, so I assume Don Lemon would say that and and and welcome it. I mean, I could only assume that. So, um or or you know, maybe in that case that's the one place.

Yeah. The of course the irony is that Don Lemon has sued multiple people. He's he's like like one of these guys who loves to sue people and get paid before he realized that he could get the ultimate settlement with CNN because they wanted to bounce a black gay man as he continuously repeated um right after they the rumors hit that he was going to get fired. In any event, now he's got some money, right? is suing Elon because Elon didn't want to continue paying for his show on X because he attacked Elon as soon as he got there and showed that he wasn't a real journalist. In any event, now he's got some money. So, Don Lemon, I guarantee you, he lives in New York with his so-called husband who I'm sure they live in some high-rise building with tons of security and doormen and tons of layers between them and the outside world. So, they don't no one's breaking into any place Don Lemon goes and harassing him. He's got lots of

walls between him and any security threat. Unlike this little boy that we're going to put on the screen who's just sitting there trying to worship and because of Don Lemon and his friends got traumatized to the point where you can see the anguish on his face. He's getting hugged by a family member. There's another woman next to him with her hand on his back. You can tell he's upset. This is three months after, three, four months after the Minneapolis Catholic or Christian school was shot up. Uh where little kids may still have some trauma. that with a bunch of strangers walking into what's supposed to be a safe place for them and screaming in their faces.

Yeah. I I mean I this is one of those things that makes me so angry uh that I can't say I have to be very I can't say everything that comes comes immediately to my head when I see what these people are doing. Um, and to and espec es especially I mean you you touched on it with and this is a key point with people like Don Lemon is like the the leftists that go out there and they love to say this is what make we got to make people uncomfortable make them uncomfortable. Well to a man these are always the most comfortable people who live lives of absolute luxury and um and so it's very easy for them to say but what does it actually mean? I mean it's one thing to say well we're going to make people uncomfortable. Well what do you mean by what do you mean by that Don uncomfortable in why in what way? Why should those people be uncomfortable with people like you storming into the church? Is it because they're going to

be worried now that something violent's going to happen? Is are they are they uncomfortable because they're worried that their safety is in jeopardy? Yes. That that is the that is the type of discomfort that Don Lemon and his fellow leftist domestic terrorist agitators are trying to create. They're trying to make these people not feel uncomfortable because they feel threatened. And it's always the unspoken thing when they start when the leftists start swarming random white people in, you know, in Minneapolis who they claim are ICE agents just because they're white or making them uncomfortable. Yeah, you are making them uncomfortable because you are making them think that you're going to do something violent against them.

There's an implicit and sometimes explicit threat attached to that. Yes. And he said another word he said he that these protests are all about are is causing trauma. Trauma. He wants that kid traumatized. He's looking forward to it. He thinks that's as American as apple pie. And your reference to what they're doing to random white people walking the streets of Minneapolis is spoton. We have a couple of those videos queued up. This is complete BLM 2020 type behavior. I mean, it is like straight out of the same playbook. And listening to the voice, I do wonder whether it's this guy William Kelly who was helping lead the the storming of that Baptist uh service. But here is a man screaming at some random white man walking down the street because apparently man number one thinks the guy's ice. Sat 17.

WHERE YOU GOING? HUH? Are you ice? No. Do you like ice? SAY ICE. SAY IT. Say it, YOU'RE A YOUR MOM'S A Say it. [screaming] you. you, Nazi. you, Nazi. [screaming] you, Nazi. Oh my god. Like, I don't know how that guy didn't punch him in the face. I I give him so much credit, Matt. Right. Like, and restraining himself if somebody were to do that to you. Like, I don't know. You You're calmer than I am. I I can be more of a hotthead. I I don't know how you contain yourself.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's and that's the one of the many sinister parts of this is that uh that's one of the reasons they're doing it. Obviously, they they're trying to provoke a violent reaction. Uh which in some of these I mean, we've seen a lot of these videos, we see them pulling over cars and like detaining people, which of course they have no legal authority what to do whatsoever. That's kidnapping. Um harassing someone on the street like that. I mean, in in many of these cases, someone would be perfectly certainly morally, but I think in some cases legally justified in believing that their physical safety is being threatened and then they respond however they respond to that. But that's but that's that's that's what the left is is hoping for. They're hoping for a response like that so they can flip it around and say, "Look at these right-wing terrorists." I also think that it's the one funny thing, if there

is anything funny that comes out of this, is just the it's the assumption by these leftist agitators that if they see a white adult male who does not appear to be mentally ill, they immediately assume that he must be on the other side. They immediately assume that he must be their enemy. And they're and they're probably right actually most of the time.

Yeah. In their defense. Oh, wait. Do we have the do we have that video you guys that I just sent you of the the trans person singing? Okay, look at this because this is what their side looks like. Watch.

I had a run with ice last year in March. They [singing] called audience. It is a moment to check my body.

Tats obviously overweight. I was trans. They're exact words. Before I knew they'd surrounded my car,

two on each side, one in front like a star. It was right then in that moment. I knew they had other plans. So I started screaming. I am recording and I have been the whole time they called me [singing] oh my god

a just like they called her [singing] a They never were a man and they'll never be with their boot on the neck of the land of the free.

I mean, I'm sorry to tell you, sister, you're never going to be a man either if that's what you're going for. But Matt uh happily identifies with the other team, and I think both of us can say, "Right on. You go with them, sister." Sister enjoy. Yeah. Well, I gotta say, Megan, I'm always happy to come on your show, but if you're going to make me listen to stuff like that, I don't I don't know that I can I don't know that I can uh

It's either that or Don Le. Yeah. Well, no, I got I got But I do like it's like um that's the funny thing about these these leftwing theater kids. It's like it's it's what she's doing there. First of all, she's just she basically has a blog post and she's just singing it. I mean, she made no attempt to actually turn it into song lyrics, but it sounds like a it's like a Disney I mean, it's like this is like Little Mermaid from Hell. I it's some fullon Disney that she's that she's doing and uh I find that very funny. But this is here. But here's the thing. You look at that and then you see the other video of the guy screaming at the white guy. You see Don Lemon. It's like I if if you look at those videos and you side with the singing trans person and the guy screaming like if if that's your immediate instinct is to take their side then I we're not we don't even live in on the same planet. I mean, I I I I

don't want to share a country with you. I don't respect you. I don't like you. And uh because that I just can't even begin to understand it.

The gaslighting that's going on that it's like the people causing the violence are the ICE agents, the ones who are address arresting the child predators and the murderers instead of these crazy leftists who are trying to impede interfere with everything they do is really next level. Here is uh the mayor, Jacob Fry, on Wednesday. It was It was Wednesday. Listen Listen to this. Like I I agreed with virtually every word if it were somebody on our side talking about them. Listen to this. Stop 14.

There's no doubt in my mind that you love your town. Imagine if that city or that town was suddenly invaded by thousands of federal agents that do not share the values that you hold dear. Imagine if your daily routines were disrupted. The local cafe that you eat at was shut down because they're they're scared that their own family might get torn apart. Imagine if schools shut down and suddenly parents got to figure out what to do for daycare. This is not creating safety, right? Matt, imagine imagine if your town were invaded by thousands who did not share your values and it was affecting your local community, your cafes, your restaurants, even the safety and conduct within your children's school. Can you imag like wouldn't that call for some extraordinary action? H whatever could it be?

Yeah, it's uh right. It's it's impossible to imagine exactly what of course they're doing. And that's why I think it's important you know there there is even though for normal people we see these people and we see their we see how they're behaving and it's very easy for us to know whose side to take in all this. Uh, and you would think that this is very repulsive to every average American, and it is, but there is a strategy behind it because what they're trying to get everyone to believe, especially just kind of the casual observer who's not paying really close attention to the news, is that they want you to at least believe that, okay, yeah, maybe you're not on the protester side completely, but obviously ICE is doing something like there's something happening with ICE, and ICE obviously is doing something really dramatic or really uh offensive, and that's what's provoking this reaction.

But that's why it's really important to always remind people that no, ICE, they're not they're not doing any like they're just enforcing the law. And not only that, but they're almost exclusively targeting illegal aliens who have also committed other serious crimes like sex abuse and drugs and gang activity, that sort of thing. They they for the most part, they're not even going after just like your average illegal alien who didn't commit another crime aside from also being an illegal alien, which by the way, I think they should. I think because if you in this country illegally that's a crime in and of itself but they're not even they're not even doing that and and yet this is the reaction.

So the a couple more examples of the harassment because they're legion but here's one in SAT 19 as a bunch of folks were going to church. I'm assuming it's the same church though I don't know. Watch.

Think you're going to bring your kids here and we're going to spare you while you support the bombing of children in Gaza. You at these Nazi little Godamn. He's smarter than your parents. Your parents are Nazis. You are such a Nazi little What the is wrong with you? Why do you think you could just destroy our nation? Why do you think you can bring back white supremacy? Why do you think you're better than everybody else? What the is wrong with YOU,

YOU WILL BE JUDGED NOT BY A GOD, BUT BY A COURT OF LAW. YOU NAZI YOU LITTLE ass. What's your excuse? I'm not near him.

You don't have to be that close. Look at this little putting his hands on me. Little punk ass All right. What's your excuse?

Why do you go to a church that preaches? No. No. No. No. No. NO. WE KNOW. WHAT ABOUT THE NATIONALISM? WHAT ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM? What is it about?

Is that all you got to say? No. What is it about? WHAT IS IT ABOUT, SEE, you won't defend yourself cuz you're a punk ASS LITTLE NAZI. YOU. YOU NAZI PIECE OF SHAME ON YOU. YOU THINK YOU'RE SUPERIOR THAN PEOPLE? YOU AIN'T YOU AIN'T YOU AIN'T NOTHING BUT A COWARDLY TRAITOR. LOOK AT THESE spineless little

This poor guy is just I he looks like late 60s, early 70s just trying to mind his own business going to church. This is actually Washington DC. I thought it sounded like that same Kelly guy, but it was this past weekend. So I don't think it was. This was in Washington DC. It's happening now in city after city where you're allowed to do that, Matt. And yeah, they're just counting on the side of reason, being restrained, not engaging, being classy, not responding because they know in city after city they are going to be able to get away with this.

And the narrative is going to be that they're the side of the good guys and the ICE agents and others trying to maintain order are the evil ones,

right? which is why it's it's so I mean just to go back to the point we've been making this whole time it's so important uh that the law is enforced and that you throw the book at these people um because if you don't I mean we saw the same thing in 2020. We all saw this trajectory play out in 2020 where it just ste it it it it it steamrolls, you know, it's like a um it's an avalanche and once it and once it really really gets going, then it's almost impossible to stop and you got to get in before that because here's the thing. These people, these leftist uh agitators, I won't even call them protesters. They they don't they don't really care. You know,

right, they're terrorists. Every protest for them is about everything. That's why he throws in Gaza, he throws in white supremacy. It's like everything's about everything all the time because they don't actually care about any of that stuff. These are destructive people. They're degenerates and really they're they they hate everyone. They're full of anger. They're they're mad about their their the fact that they're total failures and they're losers and they're unhappy and they're just looking for an excuse to take that out on someone. They and and and this kind of environment gives them that excuse. And once they get kind of the taste of blood, they go crazy with it. And so we've you've got to come in and you got to put a stop to it and throw the book at them before it really before it really gets uh out of control.

We're seeing some of that just this weekend. Um a guy named Jake Lang, he got in trouble on January 6th. He's apparently running for office down in Florida. He was attacked by an angry mob down uh out in Minneapolis. This is Take a look at SAT 21 where he gets hit by the babies and guns are going to hold.

It's a full mob. Full mob. They're beating him. They're beating him with a black hole. I thought you weren't allowed to do that. Reliably told on J6, you can't do that.

Hey, Jake, against the law. Palestinian flag in the background. Where are the police? Here he is in S 23 trying to flee in a red sedan. Protesters don't allow it. Watch

in his car. These are all crimes. Now he'll be in the door kicking him from the other side.

Of course in the Canada goose jacket which is about a fortune. Stop. Hey, let him out. Let him out.

So, I just wanted to show you that, Matt. I know you've seen lots of videos like that because they they are they're harassing many. They're they're harassing ICE. They're vandalizing vehicles. They they beat an ICE officer with a broom and a shovel. Now, you see this guy getting hit. Um we've been watching what's been happening to poor Nick Sorder and Chem Higgby down there getting attacked repeatedly. And then um Ellen Degenerous felt the need to weigh in. And I know you like I have been asking yourself what what would Ellen think of all this. Um she's abandoned the United States to go live in the UK.

So, but it's still really important to all of us what she thinks. And uh so I have an answer for you today. And here it is. Hey everybody. I just wanted to say I am so sorry uh for what is happening in Minneapolis and uh and our country really, but specifically Minneapolis right now. Thoughts and my prayers are going out to everyone and I'm proud of everyone who's protesting peacefully and I am sorry for anyone who has been hurt uh just for protesting for doing what you should be doing. There's your answer, Matt Walsh. You're welcome.

Yeah, I know. I I really appreciate that. This whole time I've been Well, I've been, like everyone, I've been very lost these past few weeks. I don't know exactly what to think. I think I know what I think, but then I'm I'm thinking, well, what does what does Ellen DeGeneres have to say? And then I turn on daytime TV and she's not there anymore because she got fired and and then I'm but but there it is. So, uh, of course, and and also keep in mind as always in particular in Minneapolis, what this is all about for them where it all started, we we can't say it enough is that this is all about specifically protecting in Minneapolis Somali immigrants who are stealing from the people of Minneapolis to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. And that's who they are all in swarming in to protect. And that's who Ellen Degenerous is now bravely speaking up in defense of.

Exactly. And let's not forget why Ellen lost her daytime show. It's because she was a bully. She bullied people who are less powerful than she was. She had a rule. I'm very reliably informed. Somebody I knew very well. Had a sister who worked for her. You were not allowed to look her in the eye as one of her producers when you walked past her in the hallway. And so it's no surprise that Ellen DeGeneres is totally fine with what these so-called protesters, terrorists are doing in the streets of Minneapolis. It's no surprise whatsoever. And when she says, "I'm very sorry for any protester who's gotten hurt." She of course is talking about Renee Good. And I'm sure just like most leftists, she's been fed the same lies we've heard from CNN now from the beginning. And she's chosen to believe them because she's ignorant. And it's willful. It's not It's not blind ignorance. It's willful. ignorance. It

suits her ideological purposes. Shame on her. Enjoy England. I'm sorry that our friends across the pond are stuck with Ellen. But let's face it, they gave us Harry and Megan, so they deserve it. Um, all right. Let's take a quick break because I want to come back. There's a lot more to discuss and I really do want to get into this series that you're now offering because half the lies that they're what we're hearing on the streets of Minneapolis are told every day to our children in K through2 education. And like most of us, Matt's had enough of that. Uh we will get back uh in just a minute and talk about his new series of the Daily Wire, Real History with Matt Walsh.

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Good questions, Matt. Uh, why don't they teach that? What What is the agenda? Well, I think I mean, look, the agenda not just in our schools, but media, Hollywood, all the institutions in our country is to make Americans hate themselves. And that begins in school with kids. Uh, to give us a version of our history that makes us uh ashamed, feel guilty. um feel like we have no reason to have any pride uh in our country in particular in it in it in in its in its history. Um you know ca to cast America as u and and in particular white Americans as the great villains of of history. Um that's what all this is about. And of course that's what the left wants to do.

I mean the this the leftism is an ideology of destruction. It's inherently destructive. We talk about we call them progressive which they are but it's progressive in the way that cancer is progressive. You know it's it progresses in the way that we would say that of someone with with cancer diagnosis progresses in that it eats and destroys. Um and so that's that's been the case. We know that. Well, anyone who's been paying attention knows that. But then when you so you you you might even know that intellectually. But until you actually dive in and you start looking at some of these historical topics, especially the ones that we we hear a lot about generally, uh, but we don't get very many details.

When you start really getting into it, you realize that that wow, I mean, they really lied about everything. The the truth to here is totally different. It's not just like here's some more context. It's this is an entirely different story than than the one that I was told. And so this is a series where each episode we'll look at a different um a little a different topic in in in history. And we start with a I mean slavery that's a really big one. And um and that's kind of where it begins. I think it's an appropriate place to begin because this is we're told right the original sin of uh America's kind of original sin.

Nicole Hannah Jones would tell us this is the whole reason America was formed. Right. Exactly. And and it if you go it it touches everything. You look at the to your point. I mean, you look at the ICE agitators in the street. Um, it doesn't take that long. It's only a few degrees of separation to go from there to get from there to their narrative about slavery. I mean, this is what they think um gives them the moral right, the moral justification to just do whatever they want to go protest in the churches if they want to because America was built on slavery and it has no right to exist. And uh every white American carries somehow that legacy, that guilt in their blood for slavery. And so you can treat them however you want. And uh and then when you when you look into it, you realize that well that's that's totally absurd. Starting with the fact that and this is how we begin the series where we begin this episode is um you

know let's look at this on a global scale before we get to the really particular subject of slavery in America. What about the global what did slavery look like on a global scale? And it turns out that you know, of course, slavery was a a global institution across the entire world for many thousands of years. It's actually kind of fascinating that even these civilizations that never came in contact with each other and disagreed about most things, came to the very different conclusions about most things, still came to the same conclusion basically that it's okay to own people. And that's whether you're in Asia or Europe or you go to the the you know the new world, you go to the Americas. Uh again, these are civilizations that were uh thousands of miles apart, separated by thousands of years. And yet they all had slavery.

You know, this is this is a so if if the if the guilt of slavery could be passed down in the blood to modern people, then we all carry it, you know, without exception.

It was everywhere. and the slave trade that resulted in some number of slaves coming to the United States of America funneled slaves all over the Americas in a way that the detractors of the United States seem to conveniently forget. Here's another clip from episode 1. It's 51. Historians and political pundits spend a lot of time talking about the transatlantic slave trade, the 350-year period in which an estimated 12.5 million slaves were brought to the Americas. But what we don't learn in school is where those slaves actually went. Just under half of them, an estimated 5.4 million, went only to Brazil and many more went to the Caribbean. 1.2 million went to Jamaica,

more than 900,000 to St. Dominique and 889,000 to Cuba. The grand total of slaves brought to the future United States was about half the number brought only to Cuba. 472,372 or 3% of the total. The ones who came to the 13 colonies were the lucky ones. In the context of global slavery, getting put on a ship to New Orleans was really a best case scenario.

I mean, that's incredible. And it dubtales perfectly with a point you guys make in the series which is as follows. I'm quoting here. In the 1860 census at the very height of slavery, there were 393,975 slave owners in the US. Out of a total population of over 31 million. That translates to about 1.2% of the population. The vast majority of American whites never owned any slaves, which is not at all the narrative we are fed in third and fourth grade and every grade thereafter all the way to our 50s.

Yeah. And not only did you know, of course, the vast majority of Americans never owned slaves, but also America only had slavery as an institution for 90 years of its existence as a country. you know, for for 90 years of the existence of the United States of America, uh about 90 years, slavery existed. And um and you you look at other other countries across the world that had slavery as a legal institution for thousands of years. I mean, slavery was a legal institution in some places in Africa until the mid 20th century. I think I think it was finally abolished in like 1980 in the in the last uh African country. So, and the point of all this obviously because the response from the left will be and always is when I talk about this that yeah, well, two wrongs don't make a right. That that doesn't mean that it's okay that America had slavery. Obviously, that's not the point. The point isn't that uh that it

was okay for Americans to have slaves. The point is that it's historically incoherent to pretend that America has some kind of special guilt for slavery because when it comes down to it, guilt is shared by every country. But America's slaver relation with slavery was if judged against other countries at the time and other regions of the world was much better and lasted uh for a much shorter period of time.

So this is not um of course the only thing they mislead our children on. No matter what school we're sending them to, there's always a little bit of ideology that creeps in and infects the lesson plans. And history is like ripe for the exploitation. And I mean like virtually all of the history teachers do it. Um this actually I don't know that this is a history class where this this came out of, but there was just in the news. Um hold on a second. Where was it? My my team will Oh, it's Iowa. It's in Iowa of all places where there was an audio tape that broke Matt from a kid. A kid obviously is probably not supposed to have his or her phone in the classroom. sneaked it out and sneaked it on to record this ideological teacher in Iowa. Hello. On the subject of Renee Good, this ICE agitator who wound up on the wrong side of an agent's gun after she tried to run him over. Here it is.

Stop 47. But what you need to understand is that she was told to leave the area and so she was turning her vehicle away.

She weighed two other vehicles and they were leaving. and she was turning away and the officer STEPPED IN FRONT OF her vehicle, raised his gun and fired a shot at point blank range into her vehicle. And then as she drove away, he turned and fired two more shots at point blank range and shot her in the head. AND THAT COULD HAVE been you.

And keep in mind, she had broken no law. Oh no. She was simply following orders to leave a scene. Anybody here, the Manson Police Department can shoot you.

Are you okay with that? Okay. Now, you and I both know the number of factual errors that are in that little dissertation are too many to count right now. But the the point is the crazy ass indoctrination. It's it's one thing to know it's happening and it's quite another to hear the anger, the guilt she tries to slap on them, the the terror. Let me just give you one point. In the law, I learned this point as a young law student who was on the MOO court team and I had done this in a moot court try out and I learned first first day of law school as I tried out for moot court. You are not allowed to make the jury feel for fear for its safety in your closing argument as a prosecutor. You can't say this guy's a rapist or a murderer and if you don't find him guilty, he's going to come out and rape or murder you or someone you love. That's not okay because you really do need to be fair to the defendant and

need to make sure the jury is in a fair position to make a a good decision. That's the last thing she wants of her students that they remain in a fair and objective position to make a good decision. She just wants them swallowing her propaganda mat.

Yeah. I I mean, of course, it goes without saying it's so absurd when they when they say, "Oh, it could have happened to anyone. It could happen to you." Well, it's like, uh, no. It's it's 100% could not ever happen to me because I'm not going to block my block traffic intentionally with my car for 3 minutes and then when the cop tells me to leave, try to run them over. Uh, just like when they said, "Oh, it could happen to you with George Floyd." No. Well, I'm not going to take fentanyl and then try to pass a, you know, a counterfeit bill and then resist arrest when when the cop comes like, "I'm just not going to do that." So, it's 100% not ever going to happen to me. that's not going to but the really but of course we know that as adults we have that capacity we we have the context we know what's going on and and and everything uh but what makes us so diabolical obviously in this case is

that you are doing this to children who uh many of whom I mean think about the unfair position that uh these these families are in because if you're a a parent you know with some of these stories you you might not have sat your kids down and told them about all this depending on how old they are because you might feel like well it's not quite appropriate to talk to my kids about this at their age. So, so you have not equipped your kids with the true version of this story. Perhaps little did you know that you're sending them to school and then in English class or whatever class that was uh the first version of the story they get is from this totally deranged teacher and uh and and those kids are not what are they supposed to do even if they disagree, you know, are are they going to if they stand up and say anything, they can get punished.

They know that. Um, and it's just it's it's well, this is why I've been saying it my whole career. It's like I'm I I'm not going to send my kids to public school um because you're sending them into these indoctrination camps and we know that this is this is how it goes. Mhm. I'll say the the only advantage of sending them into schools that are a little woke, not actually woke because that's just abuse. But a little woke is like I think because our daughter goes to a school that's a little woke and our sons go to an all boy school that's not not woke is um she's learning it like she's starting to hear it and she'll bring it home and say this this happened. And so it does give us as parents the opportunity to like inoculate her, you know, before she moves on to college or what whatever she decides her future plans are. And that's that is one benefit, but it would be better I still if they didn't have it.

So you're going to take this on. I mean, they've been doing this to our kids. I I remember having a a a lunch with I mean, I'll spare her the name, but she's a very famous news person. Um, and she was talking all about how at her leftist New York City private school, they loved Howard Zinn. That's all they used to teach the kids history. That guy hates America. So, this this series, as I see it, is sort of the antidote to Howard Zinn. It's the opposite of what Howard Zinn is teaching our kids. What's the next subject? You're going to do slavery. Where else are we going with this?

Well, we've got uh we we I mean, there's kind of the possibilities are are endless. I will say that the next one, the very next one that we're doing that I'm excited for is we're going to talk about uh the Indians. We're going to talk about the Indian wars in America and we're going to kind of take on this idea that's taken as sort of sacrosanked and even I think a lot of conservatives just sort of implicitly believe it which is that uh America was built on stolen land and that we waged this one-sided war of persecution uh sort of a holocaust against the Indians that lasted for 300 years. Um that's the story that we get. That's the story they teach in schools. And uh like I said, I think even a lot of conservatives just kind of t they sort of take it for granted that yeah, I mean maybe I'm proud of America, but what we did to the Indians was pretty bad. You hear those sorts of things. Well, it turns out when

you look into this that uh that is not true at all. And a lot of the stories, a lot of the really famous stories that we hear, Trail of Tears and that sort of thing, again, when you look into the actual facts, uh the facts are not as they're presented. Uh but also when when you look into it, you find that well these Indian tribes um were many of them these were warfaring tribes. They were warrior cultures. Uh they were only on that land when Europeans arrived because they themselves had violently conquered. And we'll get into what does it mean?

You know, what does it look like if you're on land that Indians Indian tribe happens to want? Uh what's that going to mean for you whether you're an Indian tribe or white settlers on the on the frontier? Well, it's not not anything good. Like it's it's extremely brutal. And this was this is just part of the this was basically every Indian tribe. This is what they did. Uh you know, you you go in, you kill often times just kill everyone, man, woman, child, doesn't matter. Uh maybe you take the children as slaves, you take the women as slaves. Certainly the men, any men would be uh killed, best case scenario.

Uh or more often they'd be captured, then tortured just sort of for fun and then killed. This happened all across the continent. Was very common. And um then European settlers arrived and uh now they are kind of joining in this already this this this war of conquest that had already been waging for uh hundreds of years and now the European settlers are just sort of part of that. They're part of that conflict and they fought the war also and they ultimately won it. But, uh, once again, it's kind of like with the slavery thing to to cast them as the villains in this story, uh, really makes no sense. And you start and you really see that when you, um, understand the history of what actually happened. And we're we're going to get into all that.

I mean, all of this would really explain Elizabeth Warren's ruthlessness in a historical way. So, I appreciate you for adding to the dialogue. We can, you know, we can understand her better. Here's my um, one of my producers, Debbie Murphy's been with me forever, and she's up in Canada because she married a Canadian. And here's just an example of the land acknowledgement she has to listen to wherever she goes around Ontario. Um the town is called Burlington. Burlington as we know it today is rich in history and modern traditions of many First Nation and the Metis. From the Anishabbeg Ashkinagb okay I don't know Ashkanabi to the Howenosani and the Metis are lands spanning from Lake Ontario to the Niagara escarment are steeped in indigenous history. The territory is mutually covered by the dish with one spoon wampam belt covenant. An agreement between the Irakcoy Confederacy, the Ojiway, and other allied nations to

peaceibly share and care for the resources around the Great Lakes. We would like to acknowledge that the land on which we gather is part of the treaty lands and territory of the Misagos of the Credit. What the hell is that, Matt Walsh? We have to keep saying this, not just in Canada, but in places like the northeast of the United States, because the counternarrative to the one you just gave us is the dominant one. The peaceful Native Americans with the single tier at the white man with the smallox blanket is what is dominant. And if people want to know the truth, how do they find it with real history with Matt Walsh?

Well, you go to Daily Wire uh and uh it's available right now to subscribers on the first episode's available to subscribers on uh Daily Wire.

Awesome. All right. Well, thank you for that antidote to Howard Zinn and for your common sense thought sense thoughts on everything, Matt. Great to see you. Okay. And we are speaking of common sense takes on things. We're back tomorrow with James Woods. I'm actually really looking forward to his take on these lunatic protesters. Aren't you? I really want to hear what he has to say and I'd love to get his take on what happened at this church service. Yours, too. Email me, Megan Kelly.com.

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