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Clintons Defy Subpoenas, Trump Talks Sanctuary City Funding, Remembering Scott Adams: AM Update 1/14

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This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Clintons Defy Subpoenas, Trump Talks Sanctuary City Funding, Remembering Scott Adams: AM Update 1/14", an episode of Megyn Kelly published January 14, 2026 (19 min, about 3,056 words). It mentions 15 people, works and ideas, including Scott Adams, Dilbert, Emma Chamberlain, Coffee with Scott Adams, Truth Social.

What this episode is about

The main topic covers the Clintons' refusal to comply with congressional subpoenas related to the investigation of the DOJ's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case, while President Trump announces the elimination of funding for sanctuary cities as part of his immigration policy. Additionally, the update honors the late Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert comic, who passed away at the age of 68.

Key takeaways

  • Bill Clinton’s 17 White House visits with Epstein raise eyebrows—proof that reality is often stranger than fiction.
  • The Clintons defy subpoenas, turning a congressional inquiry into a legal chess match—politics or principle?
  • Trump’s immigration crackdown: fighting 'sanctuary cities' while some argue it detaches compassion from law.
  • Epstein's ties to the Clintons remind us that political privilege can often shield the powerful from accountability.
  • Scott Adams may be gone, but his controversial insights challenge us to think critically about societal norms.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 3:00: Electronic Payments Coalition, Scott Adams, Dilbert, Roger Marshall
  2. – 6:00: Emma Chamberlain, January 6th riot
  3. – 9:00: Truth Social, US Citizenship and Immigration Services
  4. – 12:00: Electronic Payments Coalition, Scott Adams, Dilbert, Brandon Johnson
  5. – 15:00: Scott Adams, Dilbert, Coffee with Scott Adams, How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big
  6. – 18:00: Dilbert, Truth Social

Notable quotes from "Clintons Defy Subpoenas, Trump Talks Sanctuary City Funding, Remembering Scott Adams: AM Update 1/14"

  • Keep it up as the US weighs options for possible intervention. And gone too soon, the brilliant Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert comic, author, and truly consequential…
    about Scott Adams · at
  • Lawyer who previously worked under Chairman Comr on the oversight committee. We asked senior counsel at the Article 3 Project, Will Chamberlain, how he thinks this is going to play out.
    about Emma Chamberlain · at
  • Policy change will affect only a small percentage of Somalians living in the US. According to US Citizenship and Immigration Services, just under 2500 Somali nationals…
    about US Citizenship and Immigration Services · at
  • Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson already posted on X, quote, See you in court at real Donald Trump.
    about Brandon Johnson · at
  • Be deployed along with military force or work as standalone operations. Press Secretary Caroline Levit on Monday saying air strikes are one of many options at the president's…
    about Caroline Levit · at
  • Win the primary and the general election. Scott's daily political commentary morphing into a successful online show called Coffee with Scott Adams. The host taking on issues of…
    about Coffee with Scott Adams · at
  • Cue the cancellation. Hundreds of papers dropping the Dilbert cartoon in response, attempting to smear Scott as a racist. Scott appearing on the MK show in September 2023, further articulating.
    about Dilbert · at
  • President Trump posting on Truth Social, a photo of Scott in the Oval Office captioned, quote, He was a fantastic guy who liked and respected me when it wasn't fashionable to do so. He bravely.
    about Truth Social · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • Scott Adams — Person · Core topic (obituary/featured segment subject) · 4 mentions · first at
    A major segment covers his death, career (Dilbert), books, political commentary (Coffee with Scott Adams), and controversy/cancellation in 2023.
  • Emma Chamberlain — Person · Referenced expert (legal analyst) · 1 mention · first at
    Provides analysis predicting a criminal referral and DOJ prosecution for the Clintons based on subpoena-defiance precedents.
  • Peter Navarro — Person · Referenced precedent (subpoena defiance case) · 2 mentions
    Cited alongside Bannon as another Trump official convicted for contempt of Congress after defying a subpoena.
    Floor of the House. And if that passes, which I expect it will, DOJ is going to prosecute. Remember that both Steve Bannon and Peter Davaro got prosecuted for the exact same…
  • Brandon Johnson — Person · Referenced political opponent (local official) · 1 mention · first at
    Chicago mayor signals legal challenge to Trump's plan to withhold payments from sanctuary jurisdictions.
  • Caroline Levit — Person · Referenced official (administration spokesperson) · 1 mention · first at
    Cited to support that air strikes are among multiple options against Iran under consideration.

Books & papers

  • How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big — Book · Referenced work (Scott Adams bibliography) · 1 mention · first at
    Named as one of Scott Adams' notable books, reinforcing his influence beyond comics into self-improvement and systems thinking.
    Scott going on to publish several books including How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big: Reframe Your Brain: The User Interface for Happiness and Success, and more. In 2015, amid President Trump's underdog.
  • Reframe Your Brain: The User Interface for Happiness and Success — Book · Referenced work (Scott Adams bibliography) · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as another Scott Adams book, aligning with the segment highlighting his 'reframing' advice and mindset themes.
    Scott going on to publish several books including How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big: Reframe Your Brain: The User Interface for Happiness and Success, and…
  • Coffee with Scott Adams — Book · 1 mention · first at
    Election. Scott's daily political commentary morphing into a successful online show called Coffee with Scott Adams. The host taking on issues of the day, also offering advice…

Companies & orgs

  • US Citizenship and Immigration Services — Company · Referenced authority (statistics source) · 1 mention · first at
    Provides the TPS population figures for Somali nationals used to quantify the impact of ending TPS for Somalia.
  • Electronic Payments Coalition — Company · 4 mentions · first at
    Our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, says Washington politicians are always getting in your wallet and that now they're messing with your credit card. They say your credit card.

Places & events

  • January 6th riot — Event · Referenced event (context for subpoena precedent) · 1 mention · first at
    Mentioned as the subject of the House Select Committee subpoena that Steve Bannon defied, used as precedent for contempt prosecutions.
    Of Congress for defying a subpoena issued by the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th riot. He served 4 months in prison. Former White House trade adviser Peter…

Media & podcasts

  • Dilbert — Media · Referenced work (career centerpiece) · 5 mentions · first at
    Used to summarize Scott Adams' cultural impact and the 2023 cancellation episode when papers dropped the strip.
  • Coffee with Scott Adams — Media · Referenced media (Scott Adams show) · 1 mention · first at
    Presented as the vehicle for Scott Adams' daily political commentary and self-improvement advice.
  • Truth Social — Media · Referenced platform (Trump communications) · 2 mentions · first at
    Cited as the platform where Trump announced Somalia TPS intent and later posted a tribute to Scott Adams.

Sponsors

  • Roger Marshall — Person · Referenced policymaker (in sponsor segment) · 2 mentions · first at
    Paired with Dick Durban in the sponsor's critique of proposed payment routing mandates.
    Credit card. They say your credit card and the security it offers are under attack and that senators Dick Durban and Roger Marshall want to change the nation's payment system…

Full transcript with timestamps

Good morning everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Wednesday, January 14th, 2026, and this is your AM update.

Jeffrey Epstein visited the White House 17 times while Bill Clinton was president.

The Clintons defy congressional subpoenas from the House Oversight Committee in its investigation into the DOJ's handling of Jeffrey Epstein.

We're not making any payments to sanctuary cities or states having sanctuary cities. President Trump announces the next phase in his crackdown on illegal immigration. The president telling Iranian protesters to keep it up as the US weighs options for possible intervention. And gone too soon, the brilliant Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert comic, author, and truly consequential thinker, dies at 68. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM update. Our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, says Washington politicians are always getting in your wallet and that now they're messing with your credit card. They say your credit card and the security it offers are under attack and that senators Dick Durban and Roger Marshall want to change the nation's payment system in a way that would benefit corporate mega stores like Walmart and Target at the expense of everyday Americans. Credit cards can

keep your payments secure and they can provide rewards that families use to help make everyday purchases more affordable. The Electronic Payments Coalition says the Durban Marshall mandates would let corporate mega stores cut corners on credit card processing, routing transactions over cheaper, untested networks with weaker security and fewer protections. Find out more at guardyoucard.com and consider telling Congress to guard your card. Former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton refusing to comply with congressional subpoenas compelling testimony before the House Oversight Committee, which is investigating the DOJ's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case. Chairman Comr setting a Tuesday deadline for Bill Clinton to participate, a Wednesday deadline for the misses. hours before yesterday's scheduled appearance. The Clintons submitting a joint letter to Chairman Comr indicating they do not

intend to appear. From the letter, quote, "Every person has to decide when they have seen or had enough, and are ready to fight for this country, its principles, and its people, no matter the consequences. For us, now is that time." The Clintons maintaining they have no relevant knowledge, challenging Chairman Comr's refusal to accept a sworn statement instead of testimony. Quote, "You will say it is not our decision to make, but we have made it. Now you have to make yours." Oh, snap. Clinton lawyers submitting an eight-page letter to the committee outlining the reasons they say, quote, "The subpoenas issued to President and Secretary Clinton are invalid and legally uninforcable." Among the reasons, the legal team asserting their in-person testimony has no purpose here other than to embarrass and harass the Clintons.

Lawyers also writing, quote, "The testimony sought by the subpoenas has no pertinence to the stated purpose of the committee's investigation," arguing Chairman Comr failed to explain why the Clinton's testimony would be relevant. Chairman Comr holding up a large binder to reporters on the Hill yesterday morning, speaking about the line of questioning the committee intended to pursue. One reason I think most Americans want President Clinton to answer some questions is because Jeffrey Epste visited the White House 17 times while Bill Clinton was president. I've been in Congress 9 years. I think I've been to the White House nine times in nine years. Epstein was in the White House double the amount of time that I was under one president. And then we know that Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's plane somewhere around 27 times after the presidency. So, no one's accusing Bill Clinton of any any wrongdoing. We

just have questions and that's why the Democrats voted along with Republicans to subpoena Bill Clinton.

There's also that photo of Bill Clinton in Epstein's hot tub. Chairman Comr going on to state, however, that no committee Democrats showed up yesterday for the scheduled deposition, casting doubt on their professed concern in matters concerning Epstein.

Not a single Democrat showed up today. Not a single Democrat. the ones that that have press conferences on the capital steps and talk about how they're trying to get justice for the victims and all that. It just seems like they only care about questioning Republicans. And we've had we've had a former Trump cabinet secretary Okcasta in for a grilling. We had Bill Barr, former attorney general in for a grilling, but for whatever reason, President Clinton didn't show up and the Democrats on the committee don't seem to have a problem.

The New York Times reporting the Clintons's beefing up their legal team, gearing up for a fight by hiring a lawyer who previously worked under Chairman Comr on the oversight committee. We asked senior counsel at the Article 3 Project, Will Chamberlain, how he thinks this is going to play out.

Well, the next thing that's going to happen is that it's going to go for a criminal referral by James Comr on the floor of the House. And if that passes, which I expect it will, DOJ is going to prosecute. Remember that both Steve Bannon and Peter Davaro got prosecuted for the exact same thing, defying a congressional subpoena. So I see no reason why the Clintons would avoid their fate. Bannon was convicted in July 2022 on two counts of criminal contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena issued by the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th riot. He served 4 months in prison. Former White House trade adviser Peter Navaro, also convicted of criminal contempt of Congress. He too served four months.

Chairman Comr announcing he will move next week to hold President Clinton in contempt of Congress. Similar action likely to follow if Secretary Clinton dodges her deposition set for later this morning. As expected in 2021, after Steve Bannon was first indicted, a supporter of Mrs. Clinton's tweeted, "You know who is not going to jail and has never been indicted for anything?" The post included a picture of Mrs. Clinton along with the salutation, "Have a great weekend." Mrs. Clinton responded with, "Thanks. It was quite restful.

We'll see if her cockiness remains once Pam Bandi gets involved." The Trump administration officially ending temporary protected status or TPS for Somalia effective March 17th. Homeland Security Secretary Christy Gnome posting yesterday on X, quote, "Temporary means temporary. Country conditions in Somalia have improved to the point that it no longer meets the law's requirement for temporary protected status. Further allowing Somali nationals to remain temporarily in the US is contrary to our national interests. The US granting TPS to Somalia in 1991 amid a civil war in their country. The Biden administration extending the protections in September 2024. Immigrants living in the US under TPS can obtain work authorization and are protected from removal. President Trump first announcing the intention to remove Somalia from the list of nations eligible for TPS status in November on Truth Social, writing that Minnesota is

quote a hub of fraudulent money laundering activity. In practice, this policy change will affect only a small percentage of Somalians living in the US. According to US Citizenship and Immigration Services, just under 2500 Somali nationals currently live in the US under TPS with an additional 1383 in the country under pending applications. These numbers represent a small fraction of the nearly 260,000 people of Somali descent living in America, according to data from the US Census Bureau, most of whom are citizens. President Trump yesterday in Detroit underscoring a zero tolerance approach toward any naturalized citizen guilty of fraud.

We're also going to revoke the citizenship of any naturalized immigrant from Somalia or anywhere else who is convicted of defrauding our citizens. We're going to get them the hell out of here fast. And if you come to America to rob Americans, we're throwing you in jail and we're sending you back to the place from where you came. We're throwing you right in jail. As the Trump administration aims to conduct the largest mass deportation effort in history, the president also yesterday announcing additional steps to punish cities and states that ban local police from cooperating with federal immigration enforcement.

Additionally, starting February 1st, we're not making any payments to sanctuary cities or states having sanctuary cities because they do everything possible to protect criminals at the expense of American citizens. and it breeds fraud and crime and all of the other problems that come. So, we're not making any payment to anybody that supports sanctuary se.

The DOJ has identified 11 states as sanctuary jurisdictions, including California, Illinois, Minnesota, and New York to name a few. The president's action likely to meet legal challenges. Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson already posted on X, quote, "See you in court at real Donald Trump." Coming up, President Trump encourages Iranian protesters to continue rallying against the oppressive regime as he reportedly weighs options for US intervention. And the muchbeloved creator of the Dilbert comic strip, Scott Adams, passes away.

Our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, says Washington politicians are always getting in your wallet and that now they're messing with your credit card. They say your credit card and the security it offers are under attack and that senators Dick Durban and Roger Marshall want to change the nation's payment system in a way that would benefit corporate mega stores like Walmart and Target at the expense of everyday Americans. Credit cards can keep your payments secure, and they can provide rewards that families use to help make everyday purchases more affordable. The Electronic Payments Coalition says the Durban Marshall mandates would let corporate mega stores cut corners on credit card processing, routing transactions over cheaper, untested networks with weaker security and fewer protections. Find out more at guardyoucard.com and consider telling Congress to guard your card.

President Trump ratcheting up pressure on the Iranian regime as civilian protesters continue demonstrating in the streets. Iranian security forces cracking down harshly, though total deaths are hard to tally. A US-based human rights activists news agency reporting 1850 protesters have been killed, thousands more detained. The totals could be far higher. Two sources inside the country telling CBS News that as many as 20,000 people have been killed. Mr. Trump yesterday from Detroit calling on Iranians to increase the momentum. To all Iranian patriots, keep protesting. Take over your institutions if possible. And save the name of the killers and the abusers that are abusing you. You're being very badly abused if the numbers are right. Look, one death is too much. But I hear much lower numbers and then I hear much higher numbers. But I say save their names because they'll pay a very big price.

Then I've canled all meetings with the Iranian officials until the senseless killing of protesters stops. And all I say to them is help is on its way. You saw that I put tariffs on anybody doing business with Iran just went into effect today. And uh I say make Iran great again. You know, it's a great country until these monsters came in and took it over.

The Iranian foreign minister reaching out to special envoy Steve Wickoff over the weekend to deescalate tensions with the US. According to Axios, Mr. Trump confirming Sunday that a meeting with Iranian officials was being set up but had not yet taken place. The president however announcing yesterday any meetings with Iranian officials are cancelled until the killing stops. Defense officials briefing the president yesterday on available options against Iran, including covert tools like cyber and psychological ops that go quote well beyond conventional air strikes per CBS.

The options presented reportedly could be deployed along with military force or work as standalone operations. Press Secretary Caroline Levit on Monday saying air strikes are one of many options at the president's disposal. The State Department yesterday issuing notice to all US citizens in Iran to leave immediately. Scott Adams, beloved creator of the Dilbert comic strip and brilliant social and political thinker, died yesterday following a battle with prostate cancer. He was 68. Scott announcing his illness last May, telling fans it was not a new diagnosis, but had developed to stage 4, spreading into his bones, leaving him with little time left. In the final weeks of his life, a spinal tumor causing paralysis from Scott's waist down. Nevertheless, he maintained communication with his many fans and embraced a positive and graceful attitude right up until the end. Scott creating the wildly popular comic strip

Dilbert in 1989, satarizing corporate culture, absurd managers, and bureaucratic nonsense. The strip appearing in 2,000 newspapers across 65 countries, printed in 25 languages. Scott going on to publish several books including How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big: Reframe Your Brain: The User Interface for Happiness and Success, and more. In 2015, amid President Trump's underdog campaign for the White House, Scott began weighing in on the political scene, predicting when few took Mr. Trump seriously, that he would go on to win the primary and the general election. Scott's daily political commentary morphing into a successful online show called Coffee with Scott Adams. The host taking on issues of the day, also offering advice on how to develop systems to drive positive life changes. For example, this clip on the power of changing your mind.

I'm reasonably sure that part of the reason, it's not the 100% the reason, but a big part of the reason people don't want to change their mind is that it would look like weakness. and maybe you would look like, well, you're not so smart, you know, because you were wrong. So, the reframe is this. Nothing is smarter than being able to change your mind. So, instead of thinking of your your ability to change your mind as a weakness, you should think of it as a strength, almost a superpower. So, I think that people mistakenly believe that when I change my mind, I'm experiencing some kind of sacrifice. I'm not I'm experiencing bragging is is closer to narcissism, you know, because I'm basically showing off. Look, I can change my mind.

Here's some more of Scott's wisdom, which will be truly missed. What if what if laziness is a habit of thinking about the cost of things or the effort instead of thinking about the payoff? I've reframed alcohol to be poison. Meaning that when I think of alcohol, just mentally, I think, oh, alcohol is poison. And it makes it easier not to embibe it because I just talk myself into it not being a beverage. It's not really a beverage. You know, it's not entertainment. It's poison. Do you think that you can cause luck to happen in your life? The answer is no. Not not luck luck. But you can you can manipulate manipulate your experience of luck in ways I'm going to tell you.

In 2023, leftists attempting to cancel Scott, calling him racist after he commented on a Rasmuson poll in which 26% of black respondents disagreed with the statement, quote, "It is okay to be white." With an additional 21% feeling unsure. Scott reacting, quote, "If nearly half of all blacks are not okay with white people, that's a hate group. Based on how things are going, the best advice I could give to white people is to get the hell away from black people." Cue the cancellation. Hundreds of papers dropping the Dilbert cartoon in response, attempting to smear Scott as a racist. Scott appearing on the MK show in September 2023, further articulating the destructive nature of the left's worldview. I was trying to make the point that we've poisoned relations by making a a framework in which one group is the victimizers, one group is the victims. If you ever find yourself in that situation, whether it's about race

or anything else, you should try to get as far away from it as possible. And nothing I said had anything to do with genetics, had nothing to do with uh even culture. Had everything to do with the fact that America, white people mostly um are selling a story and actually institutionalizing with through ESG and CRT and DEI. It's becoming part of our operating system that one group of us are the bad guys and another group of us is the victims. And that is an untenable situation. Scott continuing on with his life's work, connecting with thousands of people each day, as evidenced by the many touching tributes in his honor.

President Trump posting on Truth Social, a photo of Scott in the Oval Office captioned, quote, "He was a fantastic guy who liked and respected me when it wasn't fashionable to do so. He bravely fought a long battle against a terrible disease. My condolences go out to his family and all of his many friends and listeners. He will truly be missed." Scott's ex-wife and caregiver, Shelley Adams, yesterday reading a final message from Scott.

Many of my Christian friends have asked me to find Jesus before I go. I'm not a believer, but I have to admit the riskreward calculation for doing so looks so attractive to me. So, here I go. I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and look forward to spending an eternity with him. The part about me not being a believer should be quite quickly resolved if I wake up in heaven. I won't need any more convincing than that. I hope I'm still qualified for entry.

The note continuing on, quote, I had an amazing life. I gave it everything I had. If you got any benefits from my work, I'm asking you to pay it forward as best you can. That is the legacy I want. God bless you, Scott. We will miss you. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megan Kelly. Join me back here for the MK show live on SiriusXM's The Megan Kelly channel 111 at noon east on youtube.com/megan Kelly and on all podcast platforms.

Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Clintons Defy Subpoenas, Trump Talks Sanctuary City Funding, Remembering Scott Adams: AM Update 1/14"?

Megan Kelly (Guest), Bill Clinton (Guest), Hillary Clinton (Guest), Donald Trump (Guest), Scott Adams (Guest), James Comr (Guest), Will Chamberlain (Guest), Caroline Levit (Guest).

What is "Clintons Defy Subpoenas, Trump Talks Sanctuary City Funding, Remembering Scott Adams: AM Update 1/14" about?

The main topic covers the Clintons' refusal to comply with congressional subpoenas related to the investigation of the DOJ's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case, while President Trump announces the elimination of funding for sanctuary cities as part of his immigration policy. Additionally, the update honors the late Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert comic, who passed away at the age of 68.

What is mentioned in this Megyn Kelly episode?

15 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Scott Adams, Dilbert, Emma Chamberlain, Coffee with Scott Adams, Truth Social, Peter Navarro. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Clintons Defy Subpoenas, Trump Talks Sanctuary City Funding, Remembering Scott Adams: AM Update 1/14"?

The episode runs 19 min; the transcript is about 3,056 words in 31 timestamped sections.

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