Could Nancy Guthrie Have Been Targeted By a STALKER of Savannah Guthrie, with Security Experts

What this episode is about

The discussion delves into the potential targeting of Nancy Guthrie, exploring the security implications surrounding her home surveillance system. Experts analyze an experiment revealing that a security camera remained operational longer than expected despite attempts to disable it, suggesting a calculated approach by an intruder who appeared to be stalking Savannah Guthrie, highlighting critical aspects of timeline and behavior during the incident.

Key takeaways

• FBI says Ring went offline at 1:47 a.m., but tests show a hammering disconnects first—timing is everything.
• Savannah Guthrie's celebrity status might attract unwanted attention; public figures often become easy targets.
• Kidnappers often opt for the 'path of least resistance.' Family members of celebrities are prime candidates.
• Despite high stakes, the attacker's amateur tactics suggest a lack of preparation—could crime really pay?
• The suspect’s appearance raises questions: Is that eyeliner? Identity in crime can be as ambiguous as intent.

Who speaks in this episode?

• Megyn Kelly (Guest) · 3 min speaking
• James Hamilton (Guest) · 4 min speaking
• Jim Fitzgerald (Guest) · 3 min speaking

What is discussed, and when

1. 0:00 – 3:00: Savannah Guthrie, James Hamilton, Ring, Jim Fitzgerald
2. 3:00 – 6:00: James Hamilton, Savannah Guthrie
3. 6:00 – 9:00: TMZ, James Hamilton
4. 9:00 – 10:55: Birch Gold Group

Notable quotes from "Could Nancy Guthrie Have Been Targeted By a STALKER of Savannah Guthrie, with Security Experts"

• We haven't talked a lot about it, but the fact that Savannah Guthrie is a national celebrity, I don't News people don't like to be called celebrities, but she is, is something that's probably getting too.

  about Savannah Guthrie · at 2:11

• So, my gut at the moment is this is directly connected obviously to Savannah. And I think this ultimately it wasn't a burglary, that's for sure. And certainly in terms of the condition of Nancy, that's obviously very good going to be very.

  about James Hamilton · at 4:03

• Enough to be able to determine how to remove a Ring doorbell. And certainly a good organized professional kidnappers will look at all aspects of denying electricity, denying…

  about Ring · at 4:53

• Done. The thing I don't like about this case is we have not had any proof of life. Communications through a TMZ. The kidnappings I've been involved in go right to the family.…

  about TMZ · at 7:58

• Gold has risen over 700% in the last 20 years. And a never-ending list of reasons smart Americans diversify a portion of their savings into precious metals with Birch Gold…

  about Birch Gold Group · at 9:50

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

• Savannah Guthrie — Person · Referenced public figure / presumed target of incident · 3 mentions · first at 1:43
  Discussed as a high-visibility national TV personality whose public status may have motivated a targeted attack connected to the 'Guthrie home.'
• Nancy Guthrie — Person · Victim's family member · 1 mention
  Nancy is mentioned in relation to the potential kidnapping case involving her daughter, Savannah Guthrie.
• James Hamilton — Person · Guest expert / commentator · 4 mentions · first at 2:27
  Provides analysis on offender behavior and motivations, including the possibility the perpetrator may not be male and commentary on professionalism and tactics.
• Jim Fitzgerald — Person · Referenced expert / panelist (addressed as 'Fitz') · 1 mention · first at 2:27
  Referenced as a known expert in the discussion; used as a comparison point and addressed by nickname, indicating familiarity and prior appearances.
  We haven't talked a lot about it, but the fact that Savannah Guthrie is a national celebrity, I don't News people don't like to be called celebrities, but she is, is.

Companies & orgs

• FBI — Company · Investigative agency · 4 mentions
  The FBI is involved in the investigation of the kidnapping case discussed in the podcast.
• TMZ — Company · Media outlet · 2 mentions · first at 8:01
  TMZ is mentioned as a channel through which the kidnappers communicated, which is unusual for such cases.

Products & tech

• Ring — Product · Security device · 1 mention · first at 0:06
  The Ring camera is a key piece of evidence in the kidnapping case, with its footage being analyzed.

Sponsors

• Birch Gold Group — Company · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at 9:59
  Birch Gold Group is mentioned as a sponsor in the podcast, promoting gold investment.

Full transcript with timestamps

0:00 We just did a little experiment here which was kind of interesting because what the FBI is telling us is that that Ring camera Nest, it's the Nest um went offline at 1:47 a.m. And what we have seen thanks to our own experiment is pulling the camera off of its base does not turn it offline. Um, if it runs out of the charge, it would go offline. But presumably that didn't happen just as the bad guy arrived. Disconnecting it from Wi-Fi could show you that it's offline. But we have no reason to believe he cut some sort of a Wi-Fi line. And what happened in our experiment was it did not disconnect until we brought literally brought the hammer down on it. And that is when it disconnected. And so if that is true, in fact, we have the video now. They've turned it. Here it is. Here's video from the camera of me bringing the hammer down on it. Um I I guess Okay, I'm getting ready. I'm putting my glasses

0:59 on. And this is the little Okay, there it is. That's me hammering it. Oh, hold on. And before I've actually touched it, before I've actually touched it, it's going to go offline. And it go So it goes offline actually like a second before it's all destroyed. But the point is at 1:47 now it's offline at 1:47 a.m. he must have destroyed it. So all this stuff is happening we think before 1:47 a.m. moving the timeline back a little bit because let's not forget this video doesn't show him succeeding in destroying it. It shows him putting vegetation in front of it. So like there was a longer time there and I don't know you know it how much longer he was standing there in front of the Guthrie home with his ski mask on and his gun showing to everybody that you know it took him to finally get the camera disconnected and still 10 minutes later or so it caught an image or I think it was at 212 it caught an image of a body.

1:59 Um, okay. Let Let me ask you guys because you're the experts at like the profile of who's doing bad acts, who's doing things like this. And I I'll start with you on it, Jim. We haven't talked a lot about it, but the fact that Savannah Guthrie is a national celebrity, I mean, I don't News people don't like to be called celebrities, but she is, um, is something that's probably getting too little play as we consider motivations here. Your thoughts? Is that for Jim Fitzgerald or James Hamilton?

2:30 Yeah, that's for James. James Hamilton. Fit. Fitzgerald's Fitz now. We know him well. So, he's Fitz. Thanks for that. Yeah. Um, clearly anyone in the public eye is going to, you know, get some scrutiny and also get things like this. So, I wouldn't put it past it. Um certainly that there's a relationship that uh that needs the investigators are looking at and you know for people like you, people in the public eye, um certainly there's going to you know need to be some type of security protocols and training and and just a a general awareness that is really above the the general person because you are related to a uh you know high visibility type of individual. Um and that certainly can't be discounted.

3:13 What what do you think the likelihood is, Will, that Savannah's public figure status is a motivation here in some way?

3:22 I think it's highly likely, uh, Megan, I I've dealt with a number of cases where certainly in terms of either some sort of fixation or certainly targeting, this was a targeted attack. And what will generally happen if it is a kidnapping and it turns out to be a kidnapping, it will be to go through the path of least resistance. and that is to target a family member who won't necessarily have the same level or status of security around them. Uh whether that be in their home or whether they have any specific security that's assigned to them by their company or by their organization.

3:55 So this was a targeted attack. Uh to target children is quite often the case. Uh but it can be elderly family members. So, you know, my my gut at the moment is this this is directly connected obviously to Savannah. And I think this ultimately it wasn't a burglary, that's for sure. And certainly in terms of uh the the condition of uh Nancy, that's obviously very good going to be very difficult to tell until such time as a proof of life in some shape or form is delivered.

4:24 So, when you thought that, well, you thought it's it's related to Savannah. Um, did did how did seeing the pictures yesterday influence your opinion at all if at all?

4:34 Well, I I certainly I've been watching as as James obviously uh the the leadup and what you guys have been covering before we came and joined you and I would say they came very illprepared. They're not entirely professional. I've seen highly professional groups. There would have been no doubt some advanced reconnaissance but not sophisticated enough to be able to determine how to remove a a Ring doorbell. And certainly a good organized professional kidnappers will look at all aspects of denying electricity, denying power and then obviously considering anything that is remotely powered like a Ring doorbell.

5:10 So you know I looked at them looked at the position like you guys were talking about the position of his firearm um overtly not covertly in an abdomen sort of concealed carry way. Uh and in terms of obviously uh his outfit, what he was wearing, there were a lot of identifiers on there which I think uh the law enforcement agencies and obviously the federal agencies will be following up on and chasing obviously to try and determine where he may have sourced these items.

5:39 And how about you, James? What do what do you think? Well, I I enjoyed listening to you all earlier and just a couple things. I I'm going to go out on a little bit of a limb here. I'm not so convinced this is a guy until I can have absolute, you know, proof that this is a male. The eyes the the eyes seem like eyeliner. I I wouldn't put it past being a woman.

5:58 It does look like he's wearing eyeliner. Thank you for saying that. It does look like he's wearing eyeliner in the one shot.

6:04 Yes. So, I'm not going to go there. Um I will say a friend of ours, you know, James Gaggleó has been on site there and he said how dark it is that area. And to me, that would certainly explain, you know, this silly carrying of the firearm. Well, if he was getting, like Fitz was saying, if he's getting out of a car and walking up to the house, then, you know, putting it in this stupid way that he's carrying it or the person's carrying the firearm, uh, I don't see the problem with that one because no one's going to see it. It's so dark there. No one's going to see the stupid carry of the firearm. Um, so and and lastly, I would just say that we we can, yeah, he looks he or she looks stupid and looks strange and doing some strange things, but let's not discount the success here. It has been 10 days. We have not heard a word. We don't we are no closer to catching this person and they've been on the run now for 10 days.

6:55 Uh, and the FBI, you know, is the best in the business and they haven't caught him. So, he's not completely stupid. And, you know, I

7:02 James, let me ask you a followup. Good point. Um, you were at the FBI for almost 25 years. I think you you worked kidnappings. Like, is this does this look like a professional kidnapping? Like, is is kidnapping even common?

7:16 No, it's extremely rare. Uh, and you know, I was saying earlier to somebody in 23 years in law enforcement, I think I worked two of them. And so, unless you're in New York or LA and the hot bed of these things, it doesn't happen a lot. And and what what you see frequently is they happen in these places like we're seeing here. And the police don't have a lot of experience working these types of cases. They're very rare. Why? Because, you know, somebody, it's a lot easier to kill somebody than to kidnap them. And why?

7:44 Because something's going to, you know, there's usually some type of a struggle. There's some type of injury. We saw it with, you know, Sydney Resza with Exxon. We're seeing it now. You know, in this case, there's, you know, her blood on the porch. It's very difficult to kidnap somebody and they're just very rarely done. The thing I don't like about this case is we have not had any proof of life. Communications through a TMZ. The kidnappings I've been involved in go right to the family. They go to where the money is. They want to get the money. You know, that's why they did the kidnapping. This whole thing has been very strange to me. Uh as as I'm looking at it from an outsider.

8:17 Well, how in their defense like is it Sorry, is it 20? Yeah, we're 90 hard to the break and then we'll come back. It's not going to be easy to get Savannah Guthri's phone number, you know, like how how do the kidnappers normally get the contact information of the family?

8:31 Yeah. Well, the same way they got her mother, you know, they can contact the family. The family will, you know, it's pretty well known. You contact the police and police are in contact with the family. You contact the FBI and they'll put you in touch. I mean, that that's not that difficult to go through Levin at TMZ. That's just bizarre to me. Why would you do that?

8:50 It Why would you do that? I mean, is it for attention to because you're enjoying

8:55 I've seen occasions story in the news. I I mean, I have seen occasions, Megan, where a third party will be utilized. I mean, but but it does it is very counterintuitive to the fact that one of the biggest enemies to a kidnapper, if this is indeed a kidnapping, is media publicity. and the greater the publicity that takes place and I've worked a couple of cases where because it garnished so much media attention it actually didn't end in a very positive outcome obviously for the hostage. So I I would agree with James TMZ is an interesting choice but but certainly in terms of

9:30 because normally you hear like this is this this may be just movie stuff and forgive me for interrupting you we're going to continue this though as we take a break but normally you you hear them saying like don't involve the police and don't involve anybody and keep it on the download. They want to keep it under the radar. International disputes, inflation, rising national debt, digital currency. There's a never- ending list of reasons gold has risen over 700% in the last 20 years. And a never-ending list of reasons smart Americans diversify a portion of their savings into precious metals with Birch Gold Group. Gold can thrive during uncertainty, which is why it's a crucial part of a balanced strategy. It gives you peace of mind given all the events that could impact the US economy. See if holding gold in a tax sheltered retirement account is right for you. Birch Gold can help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into an

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Who speaks in "Could Nancy Guthrie Have Been Targeted By a STALKER of Savannah Guthrie, with Security Experts"?

Megyn Kelly (Guest), James Hamilton (Guest), Jim Fitzgerald (Guest).

What is "Could Nancy Guthrie Have Been Targeted By a STALKER of Savannah Guthrie, with Security Experts" about?

The discussion delves into the potential targeting of Nancy Guthrie, exploring the security implications surrounding her home surveillance system. Experts analyze an experiment revealing that a security camera remained operational longer than expected despite attempts to disable it, suggesting a calculated approach by an intruder who appeared to be stalking Savannah Guthrie, highlighting…

What is mentioned in this Megyn Kelly episode?

8 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Savannah Guthrie, FBI, Nancy Guthrie, James Hamilton, Ring, TMZ. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Could Nancy Guthrie Have Been Targeted By a STALKER of Savannah Guthrie, with Security Experts"?

The episode runs 11 min; the transcript is about 2,114 words in 23 timestamped sections.

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