Transcript

Disgusting Don Lemon Teams Up with Unhinged Lunatic Leftists to Protest ICE, with Michael Knowles

From Megyn Kelly · Episode page · Watch on YouTube

· 11 min · 2,360 words · 25 timestamped sections

This is the full, timestamped transcript of "Disgusting Don Lemon Teams Up with Unhinged Lunatic Leftists to Protest ICE, with Michael Knowles", an episode of Megyn Kelly published January 20, 2026 (11 min, about 2,360 words). It mentions 4 people, works and ideas, including Ice King, William Kelly, St. Thomas Aquinas.

What this episode is about

The discussion highlights a tense confrontation between Don Lemon and a parishioner regarding ICE's role and actions in immigration enforcement, wherein Lemon dismisses the parishioner's articulate defense of ICE's targeted interventions. The exchange emphasizes differing perspectives on immigration, public safety, and the portrayal of undocumented individuals, with claims about criminality rates being central to the debate.

Key takeaways

  • When facts become feelings, debates devolve – welcome to the reality TV of modern journalism.
  • ICE arrests are often portrayed as chaos, yet over 70% have prior criminal records. Data vs. narrative!
  • The immigration discourse is wrestling for votes; truth takes a backseat when emotions collide with policy.
  • Electoral anxiety breeds urgency: controlling illegal immigration could sway more than just public sentiment.
  • Protests might fuel narratives, but logic shows that reduced crime rates correlate with stricter immigration enforcement.

Who speaks in this episode?

What is discussed, and when

  1. – 3:00: Ice King
  2. – 6:00: William Kelly
  3. – 11:28: Birch Gold Group

Notable quotes from "Disgusting Don Lemon Teams Up with Unhinged Lunatic Leftists to Protest ICE, with Michael Knowles"

  • And many of them undocumented, many of them criminals, etc. At the same time, these are what are called targeted interventions by ICE to keep the American people safe. I…
    about Ice King · at
  • Course, is what's going to happen when and if these people are arrested because I mentioned this guy, William Kelly, who was arrested on Friday and was out in time to disrupt…
    about William Kelly · at
  • A new year means new financial goals like making sure your savings are secure and diversified. Will this be the year you decide to talk to somebody from Birch Gold Group?…
    about Birch Gold Group · at

Who and what is mentioned in this episode?

People

  • William Kelly — Person · Referenced protester/arrest subject (example case) · 1 mention · first at
    Presented as an example of a protester arrested and quickly released; a TikTok clip is used to argue for stronger enforcement and detention.
  • St. Thomas Aquinas — Person · Referenced authority (philosophical/theological support) · 2 mentions
    Cited to justify moral anger at perceived injustice and to pivot from emotion to political/legal action.
    St. Thomas Aquinus, no less in authority than he points out...

Concepts & topics

  • Ice King — Concept · Core topic · 1 mention · first at
    Central to the immigration debate discussed in the episode, with arguments about its role and effectiveness in enforcing immigration laws.

Sponsors

  • Birch Gold Group — Company · Sponsor · 1 mention · first at
    Promoted as a financial service for securing and diversifying savings through physical gold investments.

Full transcript with timestamps

I just want to show you one one more Don Lemon clip because here he is. This is so indicative of the press, right? This guy was like the face of CNN. So, he gets in the face of one of these parishioners right outside and this man who's a little on the older side very articulately defends what ICE is doing and some of the news story that Don Lemon raises and Don Lemon gets frustrated and basically writes the guy off as a no nothing. But here's part of it in sad eight. On one side uh are people who watched a previous administration bring 12 million people in over the course of four years.

Um and many of them undocumented, many of them criminals, etc. At the same time, these are what are called targeted interventions by ICE to keep the American people safe. I respectfully may interject here. I've been out reporting on a lot of these and they're not targeted. There are no warrants signed by a judge and they're let me finish. And they're American citizens. Many of them, most of the people that they detain don't have criminal convictions or criminal record.

I'm not going to get into the weed. Just as you should know that though, don't you think that's part of it?

One administration caused a great deal of chaos and havoc and danger for American citizens and another is trying to correct that.

Do you believe that? Why do why? Honestly, let me tell you just on the facts journalist.

Yes, I am. I want to give you the facts. No, no, no. Did you know that undocumented people and and immigrants commit far less crime than than American citizens?

We're done. How brilliant was that man? No. No. Not taking his facts from Don Lemon who tried to say um the vast majority of people being arrested have no criminal record. You should know that that's a lie. Christine has put the number over 70% who have been arrested by ICE have an additional crime. That's the reason ICE was looking for them. And we've documented before that in the vast majority of those cases, it's a violent crime.

Of course, you know, the the idea that they commit crime at lower rates or they don't use the welfare system or that, you know, they come up with all of these second and third order excuses. First of all, their premises are false. But even if that were true, which it's not, they have no right to be here. The federal government has not only the right, but the responsibility to remove these people from the country because of all of the downstream effects of this. Yes. And so, you know, I I pointed out the the downside of left-wing violence, which is that it works. It does work.

That's why they do it because it it can work. But the flip side of that is when we enforce the law, when we do what we're supposed to do, what the people elected Republicans to do, that has a downstream effect as well. You just look, if the heart of this is this immigration debate and the libs are so forceful over immigration because they think it'll give them a permanent electoral majority. If you just look at that debate from last year, the fact that Trump deported formally o well over half a million people and then through self- deepportations could be well over two million people uh depending on the labor statistics you're looking at or what have you. It's at the very least you had a lot of people leaving and you had the border closed. You saw drug overdose deaths decline for most of last year. You saw rents decrease four months in a row month over month. Why is that?

You saw a lot of these downstream effects. Why? because state action also has has political consequences as well. So there there's no substitute here, you know. Uh it's good that we feel righteous indignation. It's good. St. Thomas Aquinus, no less in authority than he points out that if you don't feel anger at injustice, something's wrong with you. If you don't feel anger looking at these scenes, what these this mob has done to this church congregation, there's something a little bit wrong with you. But that can't be the end of it. That that will be fruitless. that will be worse than fruitless if if we don't follow that up with real political action and arrest these people for the crimes that they're committing, put them in prison for as long as we possibly can, stifle the the the agitation that we're seeing throughout Minneapolis and stop it from spreading to the rest of the country. If

we do that long enough, we keep shipping out the criminals, we keep suppressing the criminals that we have in our own country, we reestablish norms and order. If we do that long enough, guess what? Before you know it, you're going to look up and you're going to have a normal country again. If we don't, if we abdicate our responsibility, this is coming to a church near you.

Th absolutely this needs to be met with the strong arm of the law. And I mean, the the thing we're up against, of course, is what's going to happen when and if these people are arrested because I mentioned this guy, William Kelly, who was arrested on Friday and was out in time to disrupt this Sunday service. Uh this is him on camera on Tik Tok explaining the fact that he was arrested on Friday before this church protest. Take a listen. Sat 11. Today I got arrested for being in a street. I wasn't impeding traffic. I was just scolding Nazis for their bad decisions and they came up. They lined up and then they sprinted after me and they CHASED ME FOR BLOCKS. I WAS RUNNING FOR MY LIFE. I WAS SCARED. I don't know what they're going to do to me. They're Nazis.

Sure you are. A woman was filming me from her minivan and I begged her to let me in cuz I was scared. SO I JUMPED IN THE BACK OF HER minivan and YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DID? THEY CAME UP AND THEY PUT A GUN TO HER FACE. THEY PULLED A PISTOL ON HER AND PUT A GUN TO HER FACE. THIS IS NOT AMERICA. THIS IS NOT FREEDOM.

He seems hinged. Yeah. Generally speaking, this is like a rule of thumb in politics. When people are screaming at the top of their lungs in voices that seem about to proclaim, "My name is Legion, for we are many." Those are not the guys you want to side with. Those guys have problems. And it is a mercy to arrest them. This is a point, by the way, because they're are lovely, sweet people, including Christians and moderate conservatives who say, "Well, look, don't we want to be nice and we don't want to be we don't need to arrest all of them, and maybe we should stop deporting the illegal aliens, and we just want to be nice, nice, nice." The premise there is fundamentally flawed. And this goes back all the way not just in the Christian tradition, but even back to good old philosophy and ancient Greece. The the the premise here is it's good to the bad guys if you let them off the hook. It's

not good. It's really bad to the innocent people when you let the bad guys off the hook because they can torch their cities and commit a lot of crimes. But it's bad for the bad guys, too. Do you think this guy is flourishing? Do you think this guy Did he call in sick from work to go obstruct law enforcement and shriek in a church? Uh, some tells me he's not the most gainfully employed guy in the world. He He doesn't have his life together. Something's really wrong with him. We need to arrest him for the actual crimes he's committed and punish him for the crimes he's committed. But one of the benefits of our correctional system is we correct people. We can rehabilitate him. He's living a bad life. And it will be an act of mercy when Tom Hman or Christy Gnome or anybody else from law enforcement shows up at his home, maybe Steven Miller, and drags him out and and brings this guy a little bit back to sanity. whatever he's

doing right now is not good for him and it's certainly not good for society. Yeah. No, he if the flourishing is a no. He's he's not flourishing. Agreed. And he won't be flourishing if he also gets put in the room with the 6'5 guy. I mean, I don't think that guy cares who felates him. Um I want to talk about Ilan Omar who's very upset. She's very upset, not about the fraud that the Somali from her own home country are committing here in the United States, but about the ICE behavior uh and the investigations. Here she is at a hearing on Friday in Minneapolis. S.

It is appalling for our Republican colleagues to be okay, for there to be cell detentations in ICE for American citizens. It is appalling for them to be okay, for there to be checkpoints in American cities where people are asked for their papers. And it is appalling for Americans to have to carry their citizen papers only to be told they are not sure if those papers are correct. I don't want to curse, but those of us who escaped places like that, the one place where we thought we would never experience this is the US goddamn states.

Haha. Let me see your papers. And why'd you marry your brother? Yeah, her papers are a little bit

America wants to know. Yes. You Yeah, I want to see your paper. And she talk about papers, Michael. She like your driver's license. Show me your drive. Like, and by the way, as she talks about how they're just like stopping random people. No, ICE has a list of people they are looking for. And if Minneapolis and Minnesota would just cooperate with them in handing over the vast majority of these people are already in the criminal justice system. They could have been nabbed at the police station, but they won't do that.

So now ICE has got to track them down in their apartment buildings. Make it sound like they're just at a random red light saying like, "Let show me your social security number and your birth certificate." That's

I I love the the performative preface. She says, you know, I don't want to curse. And you think, look, people use salty language. But if you if you have the presence of mind to say, I don't want to curse, and then you you say this naughty word. You you clearly want to. So, first of all, you know, she's a liar off the bat. But but the funny thing about this Ilhan Omar is I actually agree with what she's saying. I don't agree with her conclusion, but she says it's appalling that in America we have to have people carry their papers and we don't know if their papers are real.

Yeah, that is appall. It is appalling that your party let tens of millions of foreign criminals into this country. I wish we didn't have to do that. I wish we had social solidarity and we didn't have tens of millions of foreign criminals out. But we are where we are. You got to play the hand you're dealt. We're trying to get them out. You don't want to get them out. But yeah, that's why we have to do this is because of you. But then second of all, she says, "And I come from this place and I got refuge from this bad country and now I'm here in this." What does she say? The word she uses calls America godforsaken.

Worse than that. It says that America is a damned country. And so she doesn't like the country. She thinks it's in a really bad spot and she thinks it's just as bad as the country she came from. Well, great. I I I guess we agree in that you don't want to be here, Ilhan Omar, because this is such a bad place. And I don't want you here, Ilhan Omar, because you make the country worse. So, we have this rare moment of agreement, and we should just go our separate ways. A new year means new financial goals like making sure your savings are secure and diversified. Will this be the year you decide to talk to somebody from Birch Gold Group? You know, you've been thinking about it. They use an educated approach with a deep understanding of macroeconomics.

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Questions about this episode

Who speaks in "Disgusting Don Lemon Teams Up with Unhinged Lunatic Leftists to Protest ICE, with Michael Knowles"?

Megyn Kelly (Guest), Michael Knowles (Guest).

What is "Disgusting Don Lemon Teams Up with Unhinged Lunatic Leftists to Protest ICE, with Michael Knowles" about?

The discussion highlights a tense confrontation between Don Lemon and a parishioner regarding ICE's role and actions in immigration enforcement, wherein Lemon dismisses the parishioner's articulate defense of ICE's targeted interventions. The exchange emphasizes differing perspectives on immigration, public safety, and the portrayal of undocumented individuals, with claims about criminality…

What is mentioned in this Megyn Kelly episode?

4 people, works and ideas are mentioned, including Ice King, William Kelly, St. Thomas Aquinas. Each one on this page links to its own page with every episode that mentions it.

How long is "Disgusting Don Lemon Teams Up with Unhinged Lunatic Leftists to Protest ICE, with Michael Knowles"?

The episode runs 11 min; the transcript is about 2,360 words in 25 timestamped sections.

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About this transcript: the episode's spoken words as captioned on YouTube, split into timestamped sections. Reclip.Me locates every person, work and idea in the text, keeps the time it is first named, and quotes the words around it verbatim. Last updated January 24, 2026.